Dicuss LeBron James/Heat performance in the past two games

[tpols]

How the fvck did the refs miss that? Bron took two steps into a hop step, and then lifted his pivot foot while taking another spin.

:wtf:

[9erEmpire]

I grew up watching basketball and believing in statistics. Numbers never lie. 2 plus 2 is 4.

I have found out this year that numbers do lie.

Numbers no longer tell the truth. Numbers once told me how good of a player is. It no longer does that.

[Celtics4ever]

Does he really get that nervous? I think he is so scared of failure that he doesn't believe in himself. He has no killer instinct. I think he is a good player, but I think he is overrated to a degree until he starts showing me some clutch performances. Tonight he missed key free throws and shots. Last night he was a no show in the 4th.

[Celtics4ever]

How the fvck did the refs miss that? Bron took two steps into a hop step, and then lifted his pivot foot while taking another spin.

:wtf:

It's LeBron :lol

[Mr. Jabbar]

old news

[Mr. Incredible]

I agree 100%. Embarassing to be honest. How does a player with this much talent crumble when it matters most .:wtf:

[Celtics4ever]

I agree 100%. Embarassing to be honest. How does a player with this much talent crumble when it matters most .:wtf:

How can someone be labeled great when he can't perform in the biggest part of the game, the ending?

[UtahJazzFan88]

Yes, call it a troll thread if you want, but these guys have lots of similarities to me.

Discuss.

[knightfall88]

How can someone be labeled great when he can't perform in the biggest part of the game, the ending?

easy, all you need is stupid fans. and a lot of them

[9erEmpire]

The longer this game goes on...the worse it is for Lebron.

This game should end all talks about who's the best player or who's more clutch.

[AirTupac]

This honestly hurts me to watch LeBron choke so hard.

[kurple]

lebron > Kobe

[Celtics4ever]

Yes, call it a troll thread if you want, but these guys have lots of similarities to me.

Discuss.

Man, LeBron has some serious issues. It's like he is cursed. Maybe that Gilbert curse holds.

[Noob Saibot]

If you mean at how terrible they both perform in game ending desicions then I agree, but LeBron's impact is MILES ahead of Tony Romo

[TOUCH MY BODY]

LOL. What a brutal analogy.

[rule1223]

sounds like hes improving

[c3z4r]

contrary to james, romo was never considered the best qb in the league. Hell he's never been top 5 qb imo.

[shortsoptional]

........:hammerhead:

this is a question for Stephen A and Skip Bayless to scream over....

[UtahJazzFan88]

This honestly hurts me to watch LeBron choke so hard.

It is almost pathetic to watch now to be honest, I'm almost watching every play down the stretch of games and expecting LeBron to do something wrong/choke, and I haven't been failed much.

[rule1223]

toss it away like its about to blow or something

[Celtics4ever]

What is wrong with him? No killer instinct? He missed key free throws today that would have gotten Miami the win and then he went 0-6 in overtime.

[kurple]

why do people act like lebron is the only one choking on that team?

it won't stay like this forever, a couple of game winners for Wade and Lebron and they are back on track.. It's all mental for the ENTIRE team

[knightfall88]

inb4 near triple double - what more do you want him to do?

not quit would be a good idea

[Celtics4ever]

why do people act like lebron is the only one choking on that team?

it won't stay like this forever, a couple of game winners for Wade and Lebron and they are back on track.. It's all mental for the ENTIRE team

Did you watch the game? He missed key free throws and was 0-6 in the 4th. The guy choked once again. He is not considered a top player in the league unless he shows me something during the key moments in the game.

[hkfosho]

Sorry LeBron, I just can't. :facepalm

[k0kakw0rld]

Did you watch the game? He missed key free throws and was 0-6 in the 4th. The guy choked once again. He is not considered a top player in the league unless he shows me something during the key moments in the game. and WADE?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

looks like his elbow is flaring up again

:lol

[Velocirap31]

The game tonight:

Wade was 1/4 in 4th quarter and OT.
Bosh was 1/4 in 4th quarter and OT.
LeBron was 1/5 in 4th quarter and OT.

Clearly LeBron deserves all the blame, idiots.

[knightfall88]

Shocking, they desperately need a closing strategy. Lebron and Wade are in each other's way I feel.

[talkingconch]

After that Clipper-Miami game:lol

[Eric Cartman]

The game tonight:

Wade was 1/4 in 4th quarter and OT.
Bosh was 1/4 in 4th quarter and OT.
LeBron was 1/5 in 4th quarter and OT.

Clearly LeBron deserves all the blame, idiots.


Ur leaving out the free throws

[Celtics4ever]

The game tonight:

Wade was 1/4 in 4th quarter and OT.
Bosh was 1/4 in 4th quarter and OT.
LeBron was 1/5 in 4th quarter and OT.

Clearly LeBron deserves all the blame, idiots.

You forgot the key free throws he missed and he missed all his shots in overtime. Who else would you blame?

[HB40TheNextStar]

To be honest, the Clippers defense wasn't even very good. Heat missed easy shots. Point blankn.

Seriously LeBron, how many layups can you miss?

[Mr. Jabbar]

:roll:

[N0Skillz]

Good thing the refs like them

[9erEmpire]

neither are clutch.

Chalmers has been their most clutch dude.

[PleezeBelieve]

What do ya know, it took him leaving Cleveland for people to stop making excuses for the guy. Hes the softest player in the history of this league. He's a chump who honestly doesnt give two sh*ts about winning.

[Phong]

looks like his elbow is flaring up again

:lol
:lol

[GatorKid117]

1-3: http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu357/the_weirdo9/Random/Reaction%20face/th_Happy.png

4th and beyond: http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/1310428349083_0.png

[ConanRulesNBC]

Bulls just won back to back to back and their 3rd game was WITHOUT Derrick Rose. While your Heat just lost back to back games. :roll:

[Grinder]

Here's his entire PBP in OT.

http://i41.tinypic.com/nb82d.png

Getting mental for Lebron now?

[J-Futuristic]

I'm drinking the Kool aid, Kobe> Lebron, cant call yourself the best in the league and not be clutch.

[O_City_Thunder]

This

[Timmy D for MVP]

Yeah I might just head back into the OTC Forum for awhile. :oldlol:

[chicity89]

lmfao as Spoelstra trying to act hard lookin and stepping towards the ref. Douchebag should get a hefty fine. Pathetic display of basketball between all the flopping and whining to the refs from both teams but the heat and Lebron and Spoelstra specifically looking extra pathetic and seemingly entitled to getting all the calls they want all the time.

[rule1223]

Lebron 11 points in the last two 4th quarters and two OTs combined

[k0kakw0rld]

When he was passive yesterday you were there to throw him rocks
now he is agressive but missed shots that he usually makes you still throwing rocks @ him? really?

[Velocirap31]

Ur leaving out the free throws

True, LeBron took more than half the teams free throws and shot poorly at the line. It happens though. The rest of the team needs to get to the line themselves a bit more.

[HylianNightmare]

glad i'm getting out of here soon

[G-Funk]

Its all good, players have bad games every now n then. not like that, but still.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Unless they get it together real soon. This team is ready to be called a failure. They couldn't win their first season. They've already lost 3 games this season including back to back losses. LOL at this team being greater than any of the Bulls championship teams. :oldlol:

[Indian guy]

Liked the aggressiveness in the 4th qtr, but the missed free throws and bunnies makes him look like a major softie. His jumper isn't as good as last season either. So when the game slows down, it can get ugly for him, because it's just so difficult for him to get baskets via driving.

[coin24]

Wow... Lebron looked horrible today:facepalm
So did the rest of the heat though.


This guy top 3 in the league? I think not... Not an overeaction, but he shouldnt get props based on talent/potential anymore.. Really needs to start showing something...

[HB40TheNextStar]

The Mavs until last season

[Velocirap31]

Laker fans just come in droves after Lebron's bad games to throw out the Kobe > Lebron crap.

[Kingwillball]

Last night was a lack of Effort and tonight was just playing terrible on both ends.. Fouling Billips on that 3 was a Huge Play lets not forget. It seems the reason he is passive is cause he does not want to be exposed or called a choker like tonight. Either Way Lebron could not have a WORSE back to back 4th Qtr and OT than the past 2 nights. Good news he has a lot of season to get this mental crap figured out cause if he can return to pre MIami 4th qtr form the Heat will not be stopped this year.

[ImmortalD24]

People need to watch games, stop judging a players ability by stats and FG%.
Lebron has 23 points, 13 rebounds, 7 assists tonight in a losing effort. He is averaging 29/7/7 on 60% FG but it doesn't make one ounce of difference.


Objectively:

-this guy is a perimeter player that cannot hit FTs. 9-17 FT tonight, a 67-75% FT shooter his whole career.

-this guy's game is not smooth at all. No move looks refined or smooth. Everything is so raw. He has absolutely no touch. His misses are not even close at times from inside 15 feet.

-he has no post game.

-consistently disappears and chokes in clutch situations.

-2 worst finals appearances of all time.

He is just a video game type player that gets by with athleticism, running over and into people and dunking, bullying people. He is great at basketball because of his height and his god given physical frame, but he is not a great basketball player.

If you want great basketball players, nearly flawless, masters of the game, true basketball geniuses see:

-Michael Jordan
-Kobe Bryant
-Steve Nash
-Chris Paul

etc. These guys have skill, they are masters of the game. Everything is efficient motion, skills, finesse, mastery. Lebron just does not impress me. I don't think this guy has ever been the best player in the NBA.

[k0kakw0rld]

What do ya know, it took him leaving Cleveland for people to stop making excuses for the guy. Hes the softest player in the history of this league. He's a chump who honestly doesnt give two sh*ts about winning.
You are a moron :facepalm Last year if it was not for him the heat wouldn't be playing the mavs in the finals.

[StateOfMind12]

I'd like to discuss Lebron's sub-par defense. Wright and Butler both had big games against Lebron. Lebron is not as great of a defender as a lot of fans hype him up to be. He is certainly not the best perimeter defender in the league, maybe not even on his own team (Wade? Battier? Both of them could be argued as better).

[talkingconch]

:confusedshrug:

[Rowe]

Here's his entire PBP in OT.

http://i41.tinypic.com/nb82d.png

Getting mental for Lebron now?
Maybe, but its nothing to focus on right now.

To most people(including The Heatles based on their performance) its just a meaningless regular season game.

Lets wait to see if he carries this trend into the NBA Finals this season.

[AirTupac]

Blake Floppin
DJ FLOP

:oldlol:

[SacJB Shady]

Lebron couldn't choke any better. Jordan could do it in ways lb could never do it.

[9erEmpire]

Stats Do Lie.

[derb2k2]

Unless they get it together real soon. This team is ready to be called a failure. They couldn't win their first season. They've already lost 3 games this season including back to back losses. LOL at this team being greater than any of the Bulls championship teams. :oldlol:

yea real soon cuz the playoffs are here. fail troll :sleeping

[Tenchi Ryu]

No Rose?

[Celtics4ever]

When he was passive yesterday you were there to throw him rocks
now he is agressive but missed shots that he usually makes you still throwing rocks @ him? really?

He usually makes? He's actually known to not make those shots in the clutch.

[G-Funk]

Lebron couldn't choke any better. Jordan could do it in ways lb could never do it.

I think u should also put that blame on the other so called "2nd best player in the NBA"

[Profound]

The choking isn't what pisses me off most about Lebron is that he looks so great for the first 3 quarters then it all comes crashing down so bad. It's like he becomes possessed by a scrub, the same goes for Wade and Bosh but at least Wade makes hustle plays.

[Babalu]

crazy.

[k0kakw0rld]

He usually makes? He's actually known to not make those shots in the clutch.
not he is not. just like the myth about Kobe being a god Clutch player

[jchu]

anyone else notice lebrons eyes? he's too caught up on what people think of him. he constantly surveys his surroundings probably checking if people are looking at him or whatever

[RoseCity07]

Yeah, when they make it to the finals again be sure to bump this thread.

[JerrySteakhouse]

I'd like to discuss Lebron's sub-par defense. Wright and Butler both had big games against Lebron. Lebron is not as great of a defender as a lot of fans hype him up to be. He is certainly not the best perimeter defender in the league, maybe not even on his own team (Wade? Battier? Both of them could be argued as better).
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Celtics4ever]

Wow... Lebron looked horrible today:facepalm
So did the rest of the heat though.


This guy top 3 in the league? I think not... Not an overeaction, but he shouldnt get props based on talent/potential anymore.. Really needs to start showing something...

I dont consider him a top 2 player unless he starts showing me something during the key moments in the game. How could the best player in the league not come through during the biggest parts of the games? He is not the best.

[Celtics4ever]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

LeBRons defense is overrated. That's old news.

[DuMa]

forgettable.

[k0kakw0rld]

I dont consider him a top 2 player unless he starts showing me something during the key moments in the game. How could the best player in the league not come through during the biggest parts of the games? He is not the best.

Go on youtube and type Lebron james game 5 vs Pistons ... He is the best player in the league nothing will change.

[rule1223]

yet in the past two games in the two fourth quarters and two OTs, 34 mins, he he's scored only 11 points, i think it is now undisputed that lebron is a choker, not even the biggest stans can deny that

[INDI]

let me start off by saying that I am a laker fan. With that being said, neither am I biased, I keep it real when we/Kobe are playing bad. IMO James posseses the talent to even surpass Jordan (if that was possible) as the GOAT, but there is a block somewhere, yes I know many will say "he's more magic johnson like" I get that but neither is he on magic's level. Lebron has all the talent but does not close out games when the pressure is on him. This IMO will be the n

[nathanjizzle]

he looked scared and awkward at the end tonight, kind of feel sorry for him.

[LakersReign]

I just find it quite hilarious with these "Heat" fans. Whenever the Heat win, it's "oh...the Heat are "Lebron's team." But the minute they lose, it's "oh well....it's Wade's team and he didn't do anything either.":roll: :lol :oldlol: :roll:

[N0Skillz]

I deny it. He needs to work on his mid range game and needs to stop relying on the refs. Still one of the best

[JerrySteakhouse]

I just find it quite hilarious with these "Heat" fans. Whenever the Heat win, it's "oh...the Heat are "Lebron's team." But the minute they lose, it's "oh well....it's Wade's team and he didn't do anything either.":roll: :lol :oldlol: :roll:
:wtf:

[Kargo]

Dirk's 4-th and Lebron's 4-th/OT today make it easy to understand why Dallas beat Miami 4-2 with 3 wins in a row.

Lebron gets too nervous to make smart plays/hit free throws.He's a prime example of someone who is arrogant,not confident.When all goes well he's amazing when it doesn't he's afraid to take the initiative.

[Rocker09]

At least he at least tried to take over in today's game...

He seriously needs to work on his free throws...

[StateOfMind12]

Go on youtube and type Lebron james game 5 vs Pistons ... He is the best player in the league nothing will change.
You are bringing up something in 2007. How about I bring up something from 2011? You know, something a little bit more recent? Go on google and type up LeBron James Game 4 vs. Mavericks.

[Kargo]

Go on youtube and type Lebron james game 5 vs Pistons ... He is the best player in the league nothing will change.

The Titanic has sank since that game,USA got a black president and Martin Scorsese won an oscar.

[Profound]

not he is not. just like the myth about Kobe being a god Clutch player
:oldlol: Kobe's another one we would have been bashing today if the Lakers had lost that one. Dude was on a bricking mission today.

[Celtics4ever]

Go on youtube and type Lebron james game 5 vs Pistons ... He is the best player in the league nothing will change.

You need to go on youtube idiot. He is a good player, but not the best because he cant deliver during the big key moments in the game.

[Kargo]

At least he at least tried to take over in today's game...

He seriously needs to work on his free throws...

It's not lack of practice,it's mental weakness,too much pressure and self-doubt.

[Celtics4ever]

You are bringing up something in 2007. How about I bring up something from 2011? You know, something a little bit more recent? Go on google and type up LeBron James Game 4 vs. Mavericks.

Thats all they can do. refer to the past. In denial

[coin24]

Really??? Youre talking about one game from 2007???:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Lebron is turning into the biggest joke ever now:facepalm At least he attempted some shots in the 4th/OT for a change. Too bad he shot like total crap though.

[Mr. Jabbar]

The Heat will get on a rythm sooner than later, steam-roll through a couple of playoff rounds, and choke hard deep in the playoffs.

Not 1 not 2 not 3 not blah blah blah, but many fails to come for a team which is, on its very conception, WRONG.

[G-Funk]

This fool, is gonna work on his game, and step it so sick during crunch time, its gonna come back and bite everyone on the ass

[Celtics4ever]

Really??? Youre talking about one game from 2007???:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Lebron is turning into the biggest joke ever now:facepalm At least he attempted some shots in the 4th/OT for a change. Too bad he shot like total crap though.

I dont understand why they didnt go to Wade at the end.

[LakersReign]

:wtf:


Yeah....uh huh...act like you don't know to TRY and save face:roll:

[k0kakw0rld]

I just find it quite hilarious with these "Heat" fans. Whenever the Heat win, it's "oh...the Heat are "Lebron's team." But the minute they lose, it's "oh well....it's Wade's team and he didn't do anything either.":roll: :lol :oldlol: :roll:
It is Lebron's team and he is the one to blame for tonight's and last night's performances. Defensively played horribly so as his offensive performance in the 4th quarter. He did missed key free throws + missed a layup to put the heat up by one late 4th Q. Then missed one out of two free throws to put them up instead tie game. Heat were supposed to win in both losses so NO REASON TO PANIC. Just like last year they will figure things out.

[gotvtec]

any of you guys believe that lebron lost a step? he looks awkward during the big moments. also when he drives in.

[YAWN]

he's letting the critics get into his head. needs to fix it mentally then he'll be back to normal.

[Phong]

LeBron is gonna use all his failures to fuel him and once he perfects all of Hakeem's moves he will be sooooooooo scary and roll over the league.





















:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[JerrySteakhouse]

Yeah....uh huh...act like you don't know to TRY and save face:roll:
Never said it was Lebron's or Wade's team. smh at these kids

[ImmortalD24]

This is a serious, non-troll, non-game related thread. Not sure why it was deleted. This needs to get discussed.

People need to watch games, stop judging a players ability by stats and FG%.
Lebron has 23 points, 13 rebounds, 7 assists, 7-19 FG tonight in a losing effort. He is averaging 29/7/7 on 60% FG but it doesn't make one ounce of difference.


Objectively:

-this guy is a perimeter player that cannot hit FTs. 9-17 FT tonight, a 67-75% FT shooter his whole career.

-this guy's game is not smooth at all. No move looks refined or smooth. Everything is so raw. He has absolutely no touch. It's not about jumpers or 3's, even from 6 feet this guy just looks clumsy, he has no touch, feel for arc. His misses are not even close at times from inside 15 feet.

-he has no post game.

-consistently disappears and chokes in clutch situations.

-2 worst finals appearances of all time.

He is just a video game type player that gets by with athleticism, running over and into people and dunking, bullying people. He is great at basketball because of his height and his god given physical frame, but he is not a great basketball player.

If you want great basketball players, nearly flawless, masters of the game, true basketball geniuses see:

-Michael Jordan
-Kobe Bryant
-Steve Nash
-Chris Paul

etc. These guys have skill, they are masters of the game. Everything is efficient motion, skills, finesse, mastery. Lebron just does not impress me. I don't think this guy has ever been the best player in the NBA. He is not even the best player on his own team.

You see Jordan consistently setting the golden standard of excellence. You see 33 year old kobe, 16th season scoring 90 points in 48 hours, on a barrage of jumpshots, pullups, just total mastery, toying with defenders. You see guys even like Nash and CP3, nearly flawless players, masters of the game. Lebron just isn't a baller IMO.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Again, what about Rose?

[ConanRulesNBC]

Most overrated player EVER.

[FourthTenor]

This is a serious, non-troll, non-game related thread. Not sure why it was deleted. This needs to get discussed.

People need to watch games, stop judging a players ability by stats and FG%.
Lebron has 23 points, 13 rebounds, 7 assists, 7-19 FG tonight in a losing effort. He is averaging 29/7/7 on 60% FG but it doesn't make one ounce of difference.


Objectively:

-this guy is a perimeter player that cannot hit FTs. 9-17 FT tonight, a 67-75% FT shooter his whole career.

-this guy's game is not smooth at all. No move looks refined or smooth. Everything is so raw. He has absolutely no touch. His misses are not even close at times from inside 15 feet.

-he has no post game.

-consistently disappears and chokes in clutch situations.

-2 worst finals appearances of all time.

He is just a video game type player that gets by with athleticism, running over and into people and dunking, bullying people. He is great at basketball because of his height and his god given physical frame, but he is not a great basketball player.

If you want great basketball players, nearly flawless, masters of the game, true basketball geniuses see:

-Michael Jordan
-Kobe Bryant
-Steve Nash
-Chris Paul

etc. These guys have skill, they are masters of the game. Everything is efficient motion, skills, finesse, mastery. Lebron just does not impress me. I don't think this guy has ever been the best player in the NBA. He is not even the best player on his own team.

You see Jordan consistently setting the golden standard of excellence. You see 33 year old kobe, 16th season scoring 90 points in 48 hours, on a barrage of jumpshots, pullups, just total mastery, toying with defenders. You see guys even like Nash and CP3, nearly flawless players, masters of the game. Lebron just isn't a baller IMO.

All your criticisms relate to shooting.

Notice how since Lebron came into the league, all his teams have been very good, despite some very questionable rosters around him.

Seems you are the type of fan that thinks only scoring makes a difference in basketball games. "How can Jason Kidd be valuable, he doesnt even score as much as Marbury!"


As I look at your username, I can see why you are so desperate to promote the idea that star players need to be all about ppg padding.

[StroShow4]

Use the LeBron sticky.

[coin24]

Not sure why they rushed that 3 at the end, or why Chalmers would take it:facepalm

Miami is the GOAT at fu*king it up in the last minute:lol :lol

[LakersReign]

Never said it was Lebron's or Wade's team. smh at these kids


The ONLY "kid"^here would be the same person responding to a post with just a smiley:facepalm



Try again:no:

[blablabla]

Maybe, but its nothing to focus on right now.

To most people(including The Heatles based on their performance) its just a meaningless regular season game.

Lets wait to see if he carries this trend into the NBA Finals this season.
if he cant bring it in the rs how will he bring it in the nba finals

[talkingconch]

Again, what about Rose?
Maybe he has a few more years, but I think OP means players that have been here for some time now.

[JerrySteakhouse]

The ONLY "kid"^here would be the same person responding to a post with just a smiley:facepalm



Try again:no:
Umm. yeah great logic. :facepalm

[LakersReign]

It is Lebron's team and he is the one to blame for tonight's and last night's performances. Defensively played horribly so as his offensive performance in the 4th quarter. He did missed key free throws + missed a layup to put the heat up by one late 4th Q. Then missed one out of two free throws to put them up instead tie game. Heat were supposed to win in both losses so NO REASON TO PANIC. Just like last year they will figure things out.


Uh huh:facepalm

Then the REAL Heat fans counter and say it's Wade's team:roll:

Too hilarious for words:lol

[k0kakw0rld]

You need to go on youtube idiot. He is a good player, but not the best because he cant deliver during the big key moments in the game.
yes he can and did lot of years during his career. You guys are saying some bullshit. Jumping on any bandwagon you can. Since when Lebron hasn't been clutch in the 4th? A couple games last year and 3 this year and guess what? They lost all of them.

[Inactive]

Two games, out of 600+. Lebron has "choked", and he's also been clutch.

I think we all get the impression that he gets overwhelmed, at times, in big moments. People make too much of a big deal about it, though. No one cares when Wade, or Kobe come short, because we've all decided that they're clutch, and when they aren't, we say it's aberration. Lebron has had the choker tag applied to him, so every time he comes short, people obsess over it, and talk about it the next day.

[Collie]

I used to think it was all coincidence, but damn, there's more than enough evidence that it might really be psychological.

[coin24]

if he cant bring it in the rs how will he bring it in the nba finals


Just like they did last year..... oh wait:lol :lol

[Celtics4ever]

Calling LeBron the best in the league is an insult to the game. Best Players deliver during big parts of the game. LeBron has never accomplished that.

[Legends66NBA7]

LeBron James's stat line after tonight:

29ppg 8.5rpg 7.5apg 2spg 0.7bpg 57%fg 0%3pt 75%ft

[knightfall88]

Not sure why they rushed that 3 at the end, or why Chalmers would take it:facepalm

Miami is the GOAT at fu*king it up in the last minute:lol :lol

because chalmers is the only one who made a FG in the last 12.5 minutes LOL

[StateOfMind12]

yes he can and did lot of years during his career. You guys are saying some bullshit. Jumping on any bandwagon you can. Since when Lebron hasn't been clutch in the 4th? A couple games last year and 3 this year and guess what? They lost all of them.
That doesn't help your argument because if Lebron was clutch they would have won. :roll:

He was also pretty pathetic in the 2011 Finals but I don't expect you to refer to that at all.

[LakersReign]

Umm. yeah great logic. :facepalm

This from the same moron^ calling someone he knows nothing about a "kid" TRYING to be a smarta**?!:wtf:

Yeah....you would know all about "great logic.":facepalm

[knightfall88]

And the field goal that was made was a 3pt shot by Chalmers in the final minutes

[JerrySteakhouse]

It is Lebron's team and he is the one to blame for tonight's and last night's performances. Defensively played horribly so as his offensive performance in the 4th quarter. He did missed key free throws + missed a layup to put the heat up by one late 4th Q. Then missed one out of two free throws to put them up instead tie game. Heat were supposed to win in both losses so NO REASON TO PANIC. Just like last year they will figure things out.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[tpols]

Lebron's post game is still ugly as fvck. Not only is his footwork still terrible and every move he makes looks clunky, but he has ZERO touch on his shots. He just bangs the ball off the glass like he's playing wallball everytime.

[JerrySteakhouse]

This from the same moron^ calling someone he knows nothing about a "kid" TRYING to be a smarta**?!:wtf:

Yeah....you would know all about "great logic.":facepalm
Clearly you're a kid dude. Not even worth my time.

[Eric Cartman]

So to make clear of this, none of the big 3 hit a shoot in that period of time.

[WeGetRing2012]

Its because Wade & Lebron have no midrange game

[DRose1899]

I gotta watch every heat game that gonna ended close now, shit is epic :roll: :roll:

[gotvtec]

Its A Regular Season Game. Calm Down Ladies. Talk To You Guys On April!

[LakersReign]

Clearly you're a kid dude. Not even worth my time.


Keep saying that delusional hot garbage all you want to, means nothing to me. It CLEARLY means something to you, since you're the only person here dumb enough to believe YOUR OWN delusions:facepalm

Yeah....I'd haul a** too after saying some asinine b.s. like that:applause:

[Rowe]

if he cant bring it in the rs how will he bring it in the nba finals
Because he did last season & did throughout the Playoffs until the NBA Finals.

An early regular season game against the Warriors or Clippers is not as important to him & his legacy as trying to fix the mental breakdown that happened in the 2011 NBA Finals when he gets back on that stage.

[DonDadda59]

Lebron= this generation's Karl Malone.

[SpecialQue]

Heat fans don't say shit about refs making bad calls and non-calls to try to save their asses, basically handing them free throws on a platter, but then bitch and say that the refs gave the game to the Clippers. Sorry, I watched the game too, and the Heat played like ass. Rotten, stinking, festering ass. You can't have two of the best players in the game NOT make a single point in OT. You can't have your entire fvcking team outscored by Deandre, who can barely score at all.

The Heat will be in the finals and will likely win a ring at some point, but tonight they played like ASS.

[fubu05]

Offensively, the main thing that Wade and LeBron rely on is getting the ball and slashing. When things get tight in the 4th, and that paint gets clogged up, they have to rely on their midrange - outside game which is simply not their forte.

Let's also not forget that these two players simply don't complement one another well. When one has the ball, the other is standing around, neither are great off the ball players. And for one of them to be effective they need the ball in their hand for most of the possession.

This 1.a , 1.b mentality where you have both players with equal responsibility and sharing everything just wont work for these two. Until one of them takes the leader role, and the other one makes an effort to become a player that complements the leader, these two just won't work together. They won't win.

Basically... one needs to take a Pippen role, and the other one needs to take a Jordan role.

[Indian guy]

I'm concerned about his jumper. He's shooting sub-40% from 16-23 feet after tonight's game, down from 45% last season. He made his living on 21 footers last year. He's way too dependent on easy layups/dunks in transition so far this year.

[JerrySteakhouse]

Keep saying that delusional hot garbage all you want to, means nothing to me. It CLEARLY means something to you, since you're the only person here dumb enough to believe YOUR OWN delusions:facepalm

Yeah....I'd haul a** too after saying some asinine b.s. like that:applause:

Dude, find a post of me saying it's Lebron's team or Wade's team. Then start talking that shit. And grow up man. :lol

[Legends66NBA7]

Lebron= this generation's Karl Malone.

Damn... Kblaze might have been right.

[k0kakw0rld]

Calling LeBron the best in the league is an insult to the game. Best Players deliver during big parts of the game. LeBron has never accomplished that.
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9895/reallyy.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/reallyy.jpg/)

[StateOfMind12]

Damn... Kblaze might have been right.
Was he the one that said that? I would like a quote because usually he says positive stuff about Lebron.

[Legends66NBA7]

Was he the one that said that? I would like a quote because usually he says positive stuff about Lebron.

It was covered here already:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236545

I think he was saying something along the lines that Malone's mental mistakes in the finals... and then yeah... someone pointed it out to Kblaze...

[StateOfMind12]

It was covered here already:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236545

I think he was saying something along the lines that Malone's mental mistakes in the finals... and then yeah... someone pointed it out to Kblaze...
I don't think you took the time to read that because Kblaze never compared Lebron to Malone.

ShaqAttack's somewhat comparison with Wilt Chamberlain is good though.

[jrong]

I grew up watching basketball and believing in statistics. Numbers never lie. 2 plus 2 is 4.

I have found out this year that numbers do lie.

Numbers no longer tell the truth. Numbers once told me how good of a player is. It no longer does that.

Exactly. It means nothing. And I also get that in a way I never did before this year-- the NBA more than any other sports league is set up in a way for its players to stat-whore.

Until he wins a ring, at this point in his career, everything that LeBron does is inconsequential until June.

[Profound]

Offensively, the main thing that Wade and LeBron rely on is getting the ball and slashing. When things get tight in the 4th, and that paint gets clogged up, they have to rely on their midrange - outside game which is simply not their forte.

Let's also not forget that these two players simply don't complement one another well. When one has the ball, the other is standing around, neither are great off the ball players. And for one of them to be effective they need the ball in their hand for most of the possession.

This 1.a , 1.b mentality where you have both players with equal responsibility and sharing everything just wont work for these two. Until one of them takes the leader role, and the other one makes an effort to become a player that complements the leader, these two just won't work together. They won't win.

Basically... one needs to take a Pippen role, and the other one needs to take a Jordan role.
In summary same shit from last year? :oldlol:. I don't doubt the Heat are a contender for a championship but like I said in another thread they look exactly like the Knicks during the 4th just Iso between Ama're and Melo and bricks ensue. At least the Heat are great defensively :oldlol:.

[Legends66NBA7]

I don't think you took the time to read that because Kblaze never compared Lebron to Malone.

ShaqAttack's somewhat comparison with Wilt Chamberlain is good though.

Yeah, my fault. It was the other dude, sort off.

[fubu05]

In summary same shit from last year? :oldlol:. I don't doubt the Heat are a contender for a championship but like I said in another thread they look exactly like the Knicks during the 4th just Iso between Ama're and Melo and bricks ensue. At least the Heat are great defensively :oldlol:.

Disagree. Melo and Amar'e can ISO better, especially Melo since his outside game is actually pretty good. And Amar'e has that solid jumper when he comes off a screen. Knicks are slowly getting better offensively, and Melo has become a much more willing passer this year. For them they don't need to get in the paint to be effective. They also have the ability to get in the paint if the opportunity is there and are great post players.

Wade and Bron however aren't the most versatile scorers, and what makes it worse is that both of their styles are so similar so if a team packs the paint, not only are they really hurting the Heats #1 option, but also their #2 option.

[LakersReign]

Disagree. Melo and Amar'e can ISO better, especially Melo since his outside game is actually pretty good. And Amar'e has that solid jumper when he comes off a screen. Knicks are slowly getting better offensively, and Melo has become a much more willing passer this year. For them they don't need to get in the paint to be effective. They also have the ability to get in the paint if the opportunity is there and are great post players.

Wade and Bron however aren't the most versatile scorers, and what makes it worse is that both of their styles are so similar so if a team packs the paint, not only are they really hurting the Heats #1 option, but also their #2 option.


This was one of the main reasons why a lot of people said the Heat won't work. They do basically play the same way, both dominate the ball. Wade can facilitate offense without the ball to some degree, but not much, Lebron can't do it at all. The Heat won't be going anywhere anytime soon until one decides to be the passer.

[trig]

Yips or the yips is an expression used to describe the apparent loss of certain fine motor skills seemingly without explanation in one of a number of different sports.
Professional or leading amateur sportsmen affected by the Yips sometimes recover their ability, sometimes compensate by changing technique, or may be forced to abandon their sport at the highest level.

[indiefan24]

Lebron 11 points in the last two 4th quarters and two OTs combined

baller

[kumquat]

I've come to the conclusion that Lebron is the anti-bird.

http://www.4sportboston.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/larry_bird_2.jpg

[100grandman]

Laker fans just come in droves after Lebron's bad games to throw out the Kobe > Lebron crap.


Truth

[roffie]

lebron plays for stats, not to win. truth.

[kkling]

The heat have lost 2 games in a row. Time for a parade! :rolleyes:

[LakersReign]

Dude, find a post of me saying it's Lebron's team or Wade's team. Then start talking that shit. And grow up man. :lol


I guess we can't all be an adult like you to respond to a post that you didn't even bother to read, coming online, attacking people for their own opinions, while calling people on there you don't know a "kid",then huh?!:rolleyes:


The hypocrisy is strong in this one:facepalm

[AlphaWolf24]

I've come to the conclusion that Lebron is the anti-bird.

http://www.4sportboston.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/larry_bird_2.jpg


:lol


I see what you did...and I :applause:

[DKLaker]

Verdict: Heat = Not Da Bess :oldlol:

[DirtySanchez]

OK...I think it LeBron is not the smart high IQ player we all thought he was or is.

He takes bad jumpers when he should drive at times...makes bad passes down the stretch etc. The guy has all the physical talent in the world and then some but when it comes to situations in a game...he does not have composure, killer instinct, and lacks B-ball IQ.

All that said...he can work on all of that...or just hope Wade and Bosh bail him out.

[dec1981]

lebron plays for stats, not to win. truth.

If this is true he would've stayed in Cleveland and put up monster numbers and win more MVPs...but never win a ring.

[pegasus]

lebron plays for stats first, to win second. fixed.

:applause:

[All Net]

The heat have lost 2 games in a row. Time for a parade! :rolleyes:

Nothing has changed here, heat aren't any worse than they were before these two games...they are still the team to beat.... Do Miami need to play better in the 4th quarter of games? Yes but they will be fine.... They are still 8-3 hardly the 9-8 they were last year

[Sarcastic]

http://www.facebook.com/LeBron/posts/10150530965073944

[TheMan]

http://www.facebook.com/LeBron/posts/10150530965073944
Hey LeBron, instead of posting on facebook, you shoulda posted up Billups:facepalm

BTW, anyone can have a few bad games, let's stop overreacting.

[LA_Showtime]

OK...I think it LeBron is not the smart high IQ player we all thought he was or is.

He takes bad jumpers when he should drive at times...makes bad passes down the stretch etc. The guy has all the physical talent in the world and then some but when it comes to situations in a game...he does not have composure, killer instinct, and lacks B-ball IQ.

All that said...he can work on all of that...or just hope Wade and Bosh bail him out.

He's only stupid in the 4th quarter. That's what's so damn annoying.

[ThatsGame]

I wonder why this was create after 2 losses and not after 2 wins, unlike the Laker thread. There couldn't possibly be an agenda with the moderators for stickying these threads. No, impossible.

[Oositdwn]

http://www.facebook.com/LeBron/posts/10150530965073944
Urrrghh, Over 2000 comments of Lebron nut hugging. I think I'm gonna pass out

[Nash]

Discuss Lebron's performance last two games: 164 replies
Discuss Kobe's performance last two games: 47

Obsession.

[NumberSix]

I wonder why this was create after 2 losses and not after 2 wins, unlike the Laker thread. There couldn't possibly be an agenda with the moderators for stickying these threads. No, impossible.
Yeah, I mean, LeBron didn't play well, but let's not go crazy. It's not like he had a 6/28 night or something.

[Oositdwn]

Discuss Lebron's performance last two games: 164 replies
Discuss Kobe's performance last two games: 47

Obsession.
There is nothing to talk about with Kobe. He got the job done when it mattered most. We've seen it before with him it's standard procedure.

[TheAesirsFinest]

There is nothing to talk about with Kobe. He got the job done when it mattered most. We've seen it before with him it's standard procedure.

The last Lakers game, Kobe went like 1-5 or something in OT...(going off my memory)

Granted, he did carry the Lakers up to the end of the 4th, but he shot poorly in OT. Just thought I'd mention it to be fair.

[Simple Jack]

There will always be criticism no matter what LeBron does. Criticism that doesn't apply to anyone else, will be applied to LeBron. We've seen it time and time again. You can literally reverse roles with Wade and LeBron will get the most blame on the team. Hell, as much as Kobe is criticized; if he pulled the same stuff LeBron was doing, the backlash wouldn't be near as much as it is now. If roles were reversed and it was Bron in Kobe's situation, you don't think there would be threads commenting on how his teammates "bailed" him out? How he statpadded to 40+ points? As untrue and as ridiculous as it may be?

Context and logic seems to be thrown out the window when it comes to this guy. I'm not quite sure why; but it likely won't go away until he wins a ring. Even so, he must win a ring under THEIR conditions. I'm not sure anyone has ever been held to a higher standard than LeBron.

This isn't to say he didn't play awful last night in the 4th quarter; but first, his problem was not attacking and being passive to which people said they at least want to see him attack and be aggressive. He does that, and nothing has changed. He deserves criticism for last night...that's for sure. But the problem is, he'll get it no matter what he does. He's been getting it his whole career and it's not going to change. The internet and media has escalated it to a whole new level though; a level I'm not so sure he'll be able to achieve consistently (not that ANYONE can for that matter).

[TheAesirsFinest]

There will always be criticism no matter what LeBron does. Criticism that doesn't apply to anyone else, will be applied to LeBron. We've seen it time and time again. You can literally reverse roles with Wade and LeBron will get the most blame on the team. Hell, as much as Kobe is criticized; if he pulled the same stuff LeBron was doing, the backlash wouldn't be near as much as it is now. If roles were reversed and it was Bron in Kobe's situation, you don't think there would be threads commenting on how his teammates "bailed" him out? How he statpadded to 40+ points? As untrue and as ridiculous as it may be?

Context and logic seems to be thrown out the window when it comes to this guy. I'm not quite sure why; but it likely won't go away until he wins a ring. Even so, he must win a ring under THEIR conditions. I'm not sure anyone has ever been held to a higher standard than LeBron.

This isn't to say he didn't play awful last night in the 4th quarter; but first, his problem was not attacking and being passive to which people said they at least want to see him attack and be aggressive. He does that, and nothing has changed. He deserves criticism for last night...that's for sure. But the problem is, he'll get it no matter what he does. He's been getting it his whole career and it's not going to change. The internet and media has escalated it to a whole new level though; a level I'm not so sure he'll be able to achieve consistently (not that ANYONE can for that matter).

And that's why you should not give a **** about what the media or idiots say. If I took every "Lebron travelled" comment seriously on YouTube, I'd go nuts. You just have to accept that people generally fail to see the irrationality behind their actions, and lighten up.

Don't bother arguing with people over the Internet. It's futile. LeBron's gotta let his game do the talking.

[chazzy]

But the problem is, he'll get it no matter what he does.
There wouldn't be criticism had he delivered.

[StateOfMind12]

http://www.facebook.com/LeBron/posts/10150530965073944
It's better than the time he blamed god for losing after the Finals last season. :oldlol:

[Simple Jack]

There wouldn't be criticism had he delivered.

Of course there would be. There was already threads after game 1 saying Wade was going to be the Finals MVP and people insisting it would hurt LeBron's legacy if he didn't get it.

He got criticism for Spoelstra running a play for Wade in the Charlotte game after Wade played like garbage nearly the full game while LeBron remained dominant throughout.

He'll get it no matter what.

[chazzy]

Of course there would be. There was already threads after game 1 saying Wade was going to be the Finals MVP and people insisting it would hurt LeBron's legacy if he didn't get it.

He got criticism for Spoelstra running a play for Wade in the Charlotte game after Wade played like garbage nearly the full game while LeBron remained dominant throughout.

He'll get it no matter what.
I was referring more to the past two nights. If he just played better in the 4th/OT and won the game there wouldn't be any reasonable criticism, but given his recent track record of disappearances and underwhelming performances in these situations, the criticism will just louder and louder.

[StateOfMind12]

Of course there would be. There was already threads after game 1 saying Wade was going to be the Finals MVP and people insisting it would hurt LeBron's legacy if he didn't get it.

He got criticism for Spoelstra running a play for Wade in the Charlotte game after Wade played like garbage nearly the full game while LeBron remained dominant throughout.

He'll get it no matter what.
Give me an example of what some of the excuse would have been if Lebron knocked down his shots last night. I am pretty sure it would be similar to what happened after the Heat-Celtics series and Heat-Bulls series from last season when everybody was slurping all over him. I really doubt you can think of one. You're probably just finding some way to justify your favorite player.

[Simple Jack]

Give me an example of what some of the excuse would have been if Lebron knocked down his shots last night. I am pretty sure it would be similar to what happened after the Heat-Celtics series and Heat-Bulls series from last season when everybody was slurping all over him. I really doubt you can think of one. You're probably just finding some way to justify your favorite player.

It would be "It's a regular season game; means nothing...he'll choke in the finals." It's the same thing that's been said after nearly all of his good games so far this season. Relegating them to nothing/statpadding/wait till he fails in the playoffs again.

There's nothing to justify; it's just a repetition of what's been consistently going on after his bad games by the usual crowd.

[Nash]

There is nothing to talk about with Kobe. He got the job done when it mattered most. We've seen it before with him it's standard procedure.
Yes there is, he's scoring a lot of points right now and doing good things on the court while people still troll in this thread instead.

[coin24]

It would be "It's a regular season game; means nothing...he'll choke in the finals." It's the same thing that's been said after nearly all of his good games so far this season. Relegating them to nothing/statpadding/wait till he fails in the playoffs again.

There's nothing to justify; it's just a repetition of what's been consistently going on after his bad games by the usual crowd.


Cant argue with the truth...

At this point he deserves all the comments. If he shows up in the playoffs/finals this year, different story.. But we've all seen how he plays when the pressure is on:lol :lol

Its great that he actually attempted some shots in the 4th/ot yesterday, but they were all bricks unfortunately...

[Nash]

It would be "It's a regular season game; means nothing...he'll choke in the finals." It's the same thing that's been said after nearly all of his good games so far this season. Relegating them to nothing/statpadding/wait till he fails in the playoffs again.

There's nothing to justify; it's just a repetition of what's been consistently going on after his bad games by the usual crowd.
And while all of this is happening. People have magically forgot how amazingly clutch Lebron was in the Boston and Chicago series last year. You never see people mentioning that. But why should they? It doesn't really fit their agenda.

[Bladers]

Been reading the last couple of pages... I didn't know Simple Jack worked for a law firm. O_O

[Babalu]

I wonder why this was create after 2 losses and not after 2 wins, unlike the Laker thread. There couldn't possibly be an agenda with the moderators for stickying these threads. No, impossible.


These stickies aren't meant to favor lebron or kobe I dont think. its more like a cleanup thread. Last night there were countless omg kobe back to back 40 threads praising him, comparing him to other greats, discussing his age/mentality and others. And last night there were countless lebron threads predicting his demise, his future, and his team. Threads about his last travel, threads about his 4th quarter performance, threads about his hairline and his tweets.

I know the mods deleted many threads and merged many threads last night as well as today to keep the forums a little less "Inside kobe and lebron's hoops" forum.

To me the mods just cleaned up thats all. I mean shit, there has been an andre miller thread at the top of the forum all day. Couldn't have happened without the cleanup.

thats the way I see it anyway.

[Simple Jack]

Been reading the last couple of pages... I didn't know Simple Jack worked for a law firm. O_O

How did you come to that conclusion?

[Chaddai]

What I've noticed from these 2 games is that Lebron seems to play better if Wade is injured and unable to play. Can they coexist? He looks more aggressive without Wade and the Heat offense looks more flowing and less stagnant with him being the #1 option. It's just something I noticed from watching the 3 Heat games without wade and then watching Wade+Lebron together vs GSW/LAC . Lebron looks less dominating with Wade.

[kumquat]

What I've noticed from these 2 games is that Lebron seems to play better if Wade is injured and unable to play. Can they coexist? He looks more aggressive without Wade and the Heat offense looks more flowing and less stagnant with him being the #1 option. It's just something I noticed from watching the 3 Heat games without wade and then watching Wade+Lebron together vs GSW/LAC . Lebron looks less dominating with Wade.

The Heat won't win anything with just Lebron and Bosh though.

[sixer6ad]

How many times is this guy going to choke?

Not 1...not 2...not 3....

I absolutely love it when they lose. I've rarely hated a team this much.

[Nowitzness81]

Lebron choke job:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QpiZTRDys&feature=player_embedded

[sixer6ad]

There will always be criticism no matter what LeBron does. Criticism that doesn't apply to anyone else, will be applied to LeBron. We've seen it time and time again. You can literally reverse roles with Wade and LeBron will get the most blame on the team. Hell, as much as Kobe is criticized; if he pulled the same stuff LeBron was doing, the backlash wouldn't be near as much as it is now. If roles were reversed and it was Bron in Kobe's situation, you don't think there would be threads commenting on how his teammates "bailed" him out? How he statpadded to 40+ points? As untrue and as ridiculous as it may be?

Context and logic seems to be thrown out the window when it comes to this guy. I'm not quite sure why; but it likely won't go away until he wins a ring. Even so, he must win a ring under THEIR conditions. I'm not sure anyone has ever been held to a higher standard than LeBron.

This isn't to say he didn't play awful last night in the 4th quarter; but first, his problem was not attacking and being passive to which people said they at least want to see him attack and be aggressive. He does that, and nothing has changed. He deserves criticism for last night...that's for sure. But the problem is, he'll get it no matter what he does. He's been getting it his whole career and it's not going to change. The internet and media has escalated it to a whole new level though; a level I'm not so sure he'll be able to achieve consistently (not that ANYONE can for that matter).

It's called Karma for the way he treats people. Not the way he treats the microphone or kids at his camp or moments when he talks about his charity, it's the way he treats people. Ask the waitresses and everyday people in Akron who just happened to be in his way. Ask the security personnel at the Q when Sager got done with the interview. Ask legendary broadcaster Joe Tait how LBJ treated him. It's called Karma. No rings. Ever.

[Simple Jack]

It's called Karma for the way he treats people. Not the way he treats the microphone or kids at his camp or moments when he talks about his charity, it's the way he treats people. Ask the waitresses and everyday people in Akron who just happened to be in his way. Ask the security personnel at the Q when Sager got done with the interview. Ask legendary broadcaster Joe Tait how LBJ treated him. It's called Karma. No rings. Ever.

1. Karma doesn't exist.

2. I have loads of stories of people who ran into other athletes who were complete assholes and went on to win...plenty of times.

[sixer6ad]

1. Karma doesn't exist.

2. I have loads of stories of people who ran into other athletes who were complete assholes and went on to win...plenty of times.

Okay, what were the stories that you witnessed that proved your theory true?

[NumberSix]

Okay, what were the stories that you witnessed that proved your theory true?
No, you're right. Bad people never succeed.

[Simple Jack]

Okay, what were the stories that you witnessed that proved your theory true?

It's not a theory. Has there never been a serious scandal for a high caliber athlete before? Immoral things that definitely warrant the bitch slap of the imaginary force called karma only to have them seemingly be rewarded in other areas of their life, including success in sports?

[Phong]

There's no mystical force working against LeBron. LeBron loses cause he's a choker.

[Chrono90]

He is great at basketball because of his height and his god given physical frame, but he is not a great basketball player.


true words

[NumberSix]

All I know is that LeBron and Wade need to work on their FT%. At this stage of their career this is simply unacceptable for them to still be struggling from the line like this.

[EnoughSaid]

The Heat need to close out much more efficiently, and run better sets getting everyone involved. I just don't understand why LeBron isn't as efficient in the 4th as he is in the other quarters. Instead of closing out, the Heat let everyone in and in. :( If Wade and LeBron play well in the same game, Heat can't lose. Bosh has been consistent though, and I'm liking that.

They're playing a dangerous Denver team tomorrow, and let's see how the lat execution down the stretch is.

[NumberSix]

Big 2? Bosh and Chalmers?

[EnoughSaid]

Big 2? Bosh and Chalmers?

Of the Miami Raptors? :lol

[gotvtec]

lebron cant drive like he used too. is it me? or do other people agree with me.?

[asdf1990]

lebron cant drive like he used too. is it me? or do other people agree with me.?

he can still drive, he just becomes a pu55y in the fourth quarter, that is all there is to it. He needs to man up, he is in his 9th season, there is no reason someone as good as him should pu55y out in the fourth. What's funny is he is so scared of failing that its causing him to fail even more.

[nashwade]

at some point the coach and team collectively has to make the decision to remove bron from the 4th quarter game plan. they've got bosh, wade, cole, chalmers to close the game

if bron does not make an effort to improve his 4Q game, that's what he has to live with

[Babalu]

at some point the coach and team collectively has to make the decision to remove bron from the 4th quarter game plan. they've got bosh, wade, cole, chalmers to close the game

if bron does not make an effort to improve his 4Q game, that's what he has to live with

yeaaaah right. the second wade and spo decide to sit lebron in the 4th is the second spo gets fired and lebron asks for a trade.

[Simple Jack]

Stopped reading after that cuz people like you do the exact same thing to Kobe and don't think twice about it. But the minute it's done to Lebron, it's SUDDENLY a problem?!:wtf:

Just in case you didn't know, that's called hypocrisy:facepalm




(AND.....cue the idiotic response)

I don't post childish overreactions to any of Kobe's performances. Not sure how that applies. I've called out idiots for doing the same for Kobe's poor performances frequently; especially lately.

You, on the other hand, apply exactly to what you quoted from me.

[Simple Jack]

Yeah...that's right....backpeddle now....as expected cuz AS USUAL, YOU made YOURSELF look stupid. You haven't proven anything other than you're a pathetic hypocritical Lebandwagoner, which is patently obvious:facepalm

Oh, and by the way, you do realize that people can go back and read your posts about Kobe and see just exactly how full of sh*t you truly are....right?!:hammerhead:



Nice try:applause:
:facepalm You're a mess, man.

[pauk]

wtf? really admin? this needed a sticky? you enjoy bashing Lebron/Heat anytime things dont go his/their way? any team/player being "discussed" the same way gets the thread closed... but lebron? uh oh... sticky!! make gifs! make vids! end of the world! lets milk the thing out huh? :lol

Kobes "discuss" thread is about his 2 last great performances....

Lebrons "discuss" thread is about his 2 last bad performances....

its like the admin wants Lebron to bashed while Kobe is praised.... even if you dont want it mr Admin.. thats whats going on

[Phong]

wtf? really admin? this needed a sticky? you enjoy bashing Lebron/Heat anytime things dont go his/their way? any team/player being "discussed" the same way gets the thread closed... but lebron? uh oh... sticky!! make gifs! make vids! end of the world! lets milk the thing out huh? :lol

Kobes "discuss" thread is about his 2 last great performances....

Lebrons "discuss" thread is about his 2 last bad performances....

its like the admin wants Lebron to bashed while Kobe is praised.... even if you dont want it mr Admin.. thats whats going onStop whining like a little bitch. They made those threads so people wouldn't create multiple Lebrick or Kobe threads.

[Maneva]

wtf? really admin? this needed a sticky? you enjoy bashing Lebron/Heat anytime things dont go his/their way? any team/player being "discussed" the same way gets the thread closed... but lebron? uh oh... sticky!! make gifs! make vids! end of the world! lets milk the thing out huh? :lol

Kobes "discuss" thread is about his 2 last great performances....

Lebrons "discuss" thread is about his 2 last bad performances....

its like the admin wants Lebron to bashed while Kobe is praised.... even if you dont want it mr Admin.. thats whats going on

Um, if anything this benefits LeBron. If it weren't for the sticky, there'd be countless threads all over the front page detailing Kobe's hot streak and LeBron's disappearance in the 4th. In fact, I'm pretty sure this was made after the front page was basically nothing but Kobe love/LeBron hate threads. So really you should thank the admins, it's much nicer this way.

[coin24]

Lebron choke job:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QpiZTRDys&feature=player_embedded


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Its funny and painful to watch at the same time..:facepalm

He might need a few more lessons with Hakeem:oldlol: His "post moves" are horrible....

[Jameerthefear]

Dwight = morre clutch than LBJ. :D

[The_Yearning]

This choker never gets called for traveling.

[LA_Showtime]

Wow. That video was funny and painful to watch at the same time. I don't understand why everything he's learned goes out the window in the 4th quarter.

[winwin]

Lebron choke job:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QpiZTRDys&feature=player_embedded
lol the music

[Alamo]

Lebron choke job:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QpiZTRDys&feature=player_embedded

Wooow this is so bad. How can a player that good play so horribly?

But the best part was the Griffin flop at 2:12 :applause:

[NumberSix]

Wooow this is so bad. How can a player that good play so horribly?

But the best part was the Griffin flop at 2:12 :applause:
That entire Clipper team is starting to get annoying with their blatant flopping. Even the refs aren't taking them seriously, and teams are actually even starting to get away with legit fouls on them because the refs are expecting them to cry wolf.

[nashwade]

the loss to nuggets was really w.t.f. but they've not win in Denver for a long time

OT losses to Warriors and Clips were tolerable

who's next?

[The Choken One]

lmao... Bron was the reason they lost to the Clips.

Oh boy...2:00 was cringe-worthy. Jesus.......

[Eric Cartman]

lmao... Bron was the reason they lost to the Clips.

Oh boy...2:00 was cringe-worthy. Jesus.......


Took like 4 steps, ran over Billups & bricked the shot.

Classic Lebron in crunch time :applause:

[coin24]

Took like 4 steps, ran over Billups & bricked the shot.

Classic Lebron in crunch time :applause:

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:



I loved his post move the best, backed his man down, then bricked it hard:lol


Also, wtf happened to his FT shooting?:confusedshrug: Never seen him shoot them THAT badly, Wade must be rubbing off on him. Hes been really shit the last few yrs in the 4th aswell...

[rodman91]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:



I loved his post move the best, backed his man down, then bricked it hard:lol


Also, wtf happened to his FT shooting?:confusedshrug: Never seen him shoot them THAT badly, Wade must be rubbing off on him. Hes been really shit the last few yrs in the 4th aswell...

Lebron is mediocre FT shooter. %74 for career.