Miami Heat are currently leading the NBA in scoring, and 2nd in offensive rating

[Lebron23]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/2012.html


:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Clocian-IGN]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/2012.html


:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

actually according to that they're 8th in defense...

[Heavincent]

And the Chicago Bulls are currently leading the NBA in the most important stat: wins.

Not a Bulls fan, but just telling it like it is.

And you're not even a Heat fan, so why are you so happy? Oh yeah...that one is obvious.

[Lebron23]

actually according to that they're 8th in defense...


I already edited the title of my thread. It's nice improvement. Heat can still improve their defense once they have a healthy Wade. Wade is a good perimeter defender.

A top 5 offensive Team + Good defense = Championship formula. At the end of the day the team who scores more points wins the game.

[Lebron23]

And the Chicago Bulls are currently leading the NBA in the most important stat: wins.

Not a Bulls fan, but just telling it like it is.

And you're not even a Heat fan, so why are you so happy? Oh yeah...that one is obvious.


And the Bulls had the best record in the NBA last year, but the Heat beat them in 5 games.

Just shut the F*ck up. You annoying little Kobetard.

Heat are gonna destroy the Bulls next week with or without Rose.

[Heavincent]

And the Bulls had the best record in the NBA last year, but the Heat beat them in 5 games.

Just shut the F*ck up. You annoying little Kobetard.

Heat are gonna destroy the Bulls next week with or without Rose.

Keyword: last year.

You're not even a real Heat fan anyway. You just jumped on the bandwagon when Lebron joined.

Chicago > Miami

Chicago just has too much depth in their roster. Combine that with the best PG in the league, great coaching, and well...it's a winning formula. There's not much more that needs to be said.

[Lebron23]

Keyword: last year.

You're not even a real Heat fan anyway. You just jumped on the bandwagon when Lebron joined.


You're not even a real basketball fan anyway. You continuously ruined Every Miami Heat and LeBron Game threads with your stupid posts. Just post in the Insidekobe.com, and watch more basketball games.

[Lebron23]

Keyword: last year.

You're not even a real Heat fan anyway. You just jumped on the bandwagon when Lebron joined.

Chicago > Miami

Chicago just has too much depth in their roster. Combine that with the best PG in the league, great coaching, and well...it's a winning formula. There's not much more that needs to be said.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Just look at the Miami Heat's bench this season. Healthy Mike Miller, Battier, Cole, Healthy Udonis Haslem, and even Eddy Curry are better than the Miami Heat's bench last year.

Miami Heat in 5 games. They can still beat the Bulls even with an injured Wade.

[Heavincent]

You're not even a real basketball fan anyway. You continuously ruined Every Miami Heat and LeBron Game threads with your stupid posts. Just post in the Insidekobe.com, and watch more basketball games.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwi8y6oMuH1qf55fn.gif

Who said anything about Kobe? I didn't...you did.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Miami Heat in 5 games. They can still beat the Bulls even with an injured Wade.
You are delusional now. You can tell by your posts you haven't watched an ounce of Bulls basketball this year, except maybe the Christmas Day opener.

[Lebron23]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwi8y6oMuH1qf55fn.gif

Who said anything about Kobe? I didn't...you did.

Let's have an avatar bet. Heat beat the Bulls next week.

[Lebron23]

You are delusional now. You can tell by your posts you haven't watched an ounce of Bulls basketball this year, except maybe the Christmas Day opener.


I just feel very confident that the Heat this year are a championship caliber team because Cleveland LeBron is officially back, and The heat have a much superior bench.

[Heavincent]

Let's have an avatar bet. Heat beat the Bulls next week.

Well that nothing do with my post...but fine, you're on.

2 week avatar bet.

[Lebron23]

Well that nothing do with my post...but fine, you're on.

2 week avatar bet.


:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[GS1905]

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[Heavincent]

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None of those were even close :roll:

[Tenchi Ryu]

I just feel very confident that the Heat this year are a championship caliber team because Cleveland LeBron is officially back, and The heat have a much superior bench.
Lebron is definitely playing some good basketball, but everyone from ESPN to TNT crew know the Bulls are the most deep at this point. The fact Rose has been gone and we've not only been winning, but destroying these teams prove that. I can honestly say everyone on our squad besides our Rook and Scal could be a starter. We are that deep.

[GS1905]

None of those were even close :roll:

lebron is known to suck in crunch time so why they let him take all those shots is beyond me. i would rather see joel anthony taking those shots before i let lebron touch that ball :lol :lol :lol :lol

that's probably why wade is their closer now. 2 game winning baskets + bosh saying wade is their closer.

[MichaelCheazley]

lebron is known to suck in crunch time so why they let him take all those shots is beyond me. i would rather see joel anthony taking those shots before i let lebron touch that ball :lol :lol :lol :lol

that's probably why wade is their closer now. 2 game winning baskets + bosh saying wade is their closer.
Combine the amount of gifs and you almost have the average number of clipper wins though out this decade.

[StateOfMind12]

The Phoenix Suns were always leading the NBA in scoring and in offensive rating in the 2000s. How many championship rings did they win in the 2000s??

[MichaelCheazley]

The Phoenix Suns were always leading the NBA in scoring and in offensive rating in the 2000s. How many championship rings did they win in the 2000s??
Are you really just going to toss that out there? Think. One team is a fairly elite defensive team along with their offence. One is just a running offensive supernova.

[Lebron23]

The Phoenix Suns were always leading the NBA in scoring and in offensive rating in the 2000s. How many championship rings did they win in the 2000s??


The Suns were not even a top 10 defensive team in the NBA. I compared the current Heat to the 1991 Chicago Bulls. (1st in offense, no.1 in ppg, and 7th in defense).

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1991.html

[Mr. Jabbar]

call me in june

[ImmortalNemesis]

The Phoenix Suns were always leading the NBA in scoring and in offensive rating in the 2000s. How many championship rings did they win in the 2000s??

Think before you post kid.

Miami's defense is already better than Phoenix's defense ever was. Even though it was their first season together, Miami and the Big 3 made the NBA finals.

How many times did Phoenix make the finals?

Miami is good on both offense and defense. I'm sure you already knew that. Why did I have to tell you that? Stop being a homer and try not to post stupid shit.

[Lebron23]

call me in june

What's your number? I want to hear your voice when the Heat wins the NBA title.

:lol :lol :lol

[Heavincent]

What's your number? I want to hear your voice when the Heat wins the NBA title.

:lol :lol :lol

This seems a lot like last year. Heat/Lebron homers proclaim the Heat champions before the playoffs even start :lol

[StateOfMind12]

Are you really just going to toss that out there? Think. One team is a fairly elite defensive team along with their offence. One is just a running offensive supernova.
Heat aren't an elite defensive team this season so it is somewhat accurate.

Lets make this current Heat comparison with the '07 Suns.

'07 Suns - 1st in offensive rating and 1st in scoring
'12 Heat - 2nd in offensive rating and 1st in scoring

'07 Suns - 13th in defensive rating and 23rd in opponents scoring
'12 Heat - 8th in defensive rating and 24th in opponents scoring.

It's not that far off although the Heat are top 10 in defensive rating while the Suns are only top 15.

[nba_55]

Reading these comments by Bulls fans feel like a deja vu.
We are deep, best defense, MVP, best coach, 4-0 in regular season, Lebron is a choker...
They lose 4-1 :lol

[KingBeasley08]

Heat are easily the best team in the NBA. Bulls had a better bench and more wins last year. Heavincent, you hijack every Miami thread. You can't even deny it

[Mr. Jabbar]

This seems a lot like last year. Heat/Lebron homers proclaim the Heat champions before the playoffs even start :lol

that championship cruise rests at ocean floor pal :oldlol:

[MichaelCheazley]

Heat aren't an elite defensive team this season so it is somewhat accurate.

Lets make this current Heat comparison with the '07 Suns.

'07 Suns - 1st in offensive rating and 1st in scoring
'12 Heat - 2nd in offensive rating and 1st in scoring

'07 Suns - 13th in defensive rating and 23rd in opponents scoring
'12 Heat - 8th in defensive rating and 24th in opponents scoring.

It's not that far off although the Heat are top 10 in defensive rating while the Suns are only top 15.
We will just have to wait till the playoffs to see the team's true defense.

[nba_55]

This seems a lot like last year. Heat/Lebron homers proclaim the Heat champions before the playoffs even start :lol

Still, Heat almost swept the bulls :lol

[Heavincent]

Heat are easily the best team in the NBA.

Heard this crap last year. Deja vu.

[nba_55]

that championship cruise rests at ocean floor pal :oldlol:
4-0 :roll: :roll: :roll:

[StateOfMind12]

We will just have to wait till the playoffs to see the team's true defense.
That is fair enough. It depends on how you define "elite" though. I don't think top 10 is elite to be honest with you. I would probably say top 6 is considered elite.

'12 Bulls offense - 11th in scoring, 6th in offensive rating
'12 Bulls defense - 1st in opponents scoring, 2nd in defensive rating (Bulls will probably be #1 after tonight since the Sixers defense got destroyed by the Heat's offense.)


I wouldn't really call the Bulls offense elite though. I wouldn't mind calling it good or even great though.

[Heavincent]

Still, Heat almost swept the bulls :lol

Yeah, last season. Lets live in the present please.

[nba_55]

Heat aren't an elite defensive team this season so it is somewhat accurate.

Lets make this current Heat comparison with the '07 Suns.

'07 Suns - 1st in offensive rating and 1st in scoring
'12 Heat - 2nd in offensive rating and 1st in scoring

'07 Suns - 13th in defensive rating and 23rd in opponents scoring
'12 Heat - 8th in defensive rating and 24th in opponents scoring.

It's not that far off although the Heat are top 10 in defensive rating while the Suns are only top 15.
:hammerhead: :hammerhead:
Do you really think that Suns had almost as good defense as Heat has right?:hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[Tenchi Ryu]

Heat are easily the best team in the NBA.
Heat fans are the only ones who say this.

EVERYONE else, including ESPN and TNT panel knows the Bulls are. They say it almost every damn day.

We have the best starting 5 in the league, the deepest team in the league, and the best Defense. Its not even a question now.

[nba_55]

Heat fans are the only ones who say this.

EVERYONE else, including ESPN and TNT panel knows the Bulls are. They say it almost every damn day.

We have the best starting 5 in the league, the deepest team in the league, and the best Defense. Its not even a question now.

http://caffelatte.es/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/wallpaper1.jpg

[ImmortalNemesis]

Reminiscent very reminiscent of last year's comments during the regular season.

We have the best team, best bench, best coach, best player.

:blah

I suggest you keep quiet until you beat the Heat in the playoffs.

[TheNaturalWR]

Heat fans are the only ones who say this.

EVERYONE else, including ESPN and TNT panel knows the Bulls are. They say it almost every damn day.

We have the best starting 5 in the league, the deepest team in the league, and the best Defense. Its not even a question now.

Did everyone on ESPN and TNT say the Heat were the best team last year? No, they didn't and they still got to the Finals in their FIRST year. The Heat dominated the Bulls in the playoffs what's gonna change that this year when the Heat are even BETTER? SMH at "not even a question." It's the Heat's championship to lose and "that's not even a question."

[Brujesino]

Reminiscent very reminiscent of last year's comments during the regular season.

We have the best team, best bench, best coach, best player.

:blah

I suggest you keep quiet until you beat the Heat in the playoffs.
I suggest you honor our avy bet.

[Heavincent]

Did everyone on ESPN and TNT say the Heat were the best team last year? No, they didn't and they still got to the Finals in their FIRST year. The Heat dominated the Bulls in the playoffs what's gonna change that this year when the Heat are even BETTER? SMH at "not even a question." It's the Heat's championship to lose and "that's not even a question."

Because the Heat obviously weren't the best team in the NBA last year.

I'm sick of people acting like the Heat are the team to beat. They're not the defending champs, and they don't even have the best record in the NBA right now.

[StateOfMind12]

Heat fans are the only ones who say this.

EVERYONE else, including ESPN and TNT panel knows the Bulls are. They say it almost every damn day.

We have the best starting 5 in the league, the deepest team in the league, and the best Defense. Its not even a question now.
ESPN? I am pretty sure ESPN actually picked Miami unless you are talking about the TV analysts. In that case, who were the TV analysts that picked Chicago?? TNT did pick Chicago though.

[PJR]

Because the Heat obviously weren't the best team in the NBA last year.

I'm sick of people acting like the Heat are the team to beat. They're not the defending champs, and they don't even have the best record in the NBA right now.

Cry me a river....

[DRose1899]

Heat fans are the only ones who say this.

EVERYONE else, including ESPN and TNT panel knows the Bulls are. They say it almost every damn day.

We have the best starting 5 in the league, the deepest team in the league, and the best Defense. Its not even a question now.
The hell :facepalm
Just admit they're the clear cut contender, I prefer that way anyway.

#1 favs: Heat
top challenger : Bulls, Thunder.

seriously what wrong with that?
Bron lose if he's the clear cut favs, not when many people said "They can get beaten by good team" until final last year.

So I don't get the obsession of your team acknowledged as the best instead the Heat, just let its be, more advantage to my team anyway instead this "my team have bigger d*ck" BS

[KingBeasley08]

Yeah, last season. Lets live in the present please.
then quit talking about "deja vu"

[Tenchi Ryu]

Did everyone on ESPN and TNT say the Heat were the best team last year? No, they didn't and they still got to the Finals in their FIRST year. The Heat dominated the Bulls in the playoffs what's gonna change that this year when the Heat are even BETTER? SMH at "not even a question." It's the Heat's championship to lose and "that's not even a question."
Yes they did say the heat were the better team. Bulls getting the best record was the shocker of the season, NOBODY expected that.

And Heat don't look that much better to anyone else but Heat fans, and the rate of improvement is NO WHERE near the same as the Bulls. The ONLY thing that changed is a somewhat improvement in PG (barely) and Lebron James. Everything has either stayed the same or beena bust (I'm looking at you Batier).

The fact some keep comparing LAST YEAR'S Bulls proves how wrong you are. This is a completely different team.

[Tenchi Ryu]

ESPN? I am pretty sure ESPN actually picked Miami unless you are talking about the TV analysts. In that case, who were the TV analysts that picked Chicago?? TNT did pick Chicago though.
Michael Wilborn and that light-skinned guy on the left always go on about Bulls being the best team in the NBA...as a TEAM.

[KingBeasley08]

Yes they did say the heat were the better team. Bulls getting the best record was the shocker of the season, NOBODY expected that.

And Heat don't look that much better to anyone else but Heat fans, and the rate of improvement is NO WHERE near the same as the Bulls. The ONLY thing that changed is a somewhat improvement in PG (barely) and Lebron James. Everything has either stayed the same or beena bust (I'm looking at you Batier).

The fact some keep comparing LAST YEAR'S Bulls proves how wrong you are. This is a completely different team.
How are the Bulls a superior team? :oldlol:

Honest answers. In a 4 game series, you think they'd be favorites over the Heat?

[Tenchi Ryu]

How are the Bulls a superior team? :oldlol:

Honest answers. In a 4 game series, you think they'd be favorites over the Heat?
The better Team, but not the favorites. Having 2 superstars and an allstar will always make you the favorites. But Bulls have the deepest Team in the league, this shouldn't even be questioned anymore.

Bulls without Rose is a 4th seed

Heat without Big 3 barely make the playoffs....if that.

[nba_55]

Yes they did say the heat were the better team. Bulls getting the best record was the shocker of the season, NOBODY expected that.

And Heat don't look that much better to anyone else but Heat fans, and the rate of improvement is NO WHERE near the same as the Bulls. The ONLY thing that changed is a somewhat improvement in PG (barely) and Lebron James. Everything has either stayed the same or beena bust (I'm looking at you Batier).

The fact some keep comparing LAST YEAR'S Bulls proves how wrong you are. This is a completely different team.

Battier
Healthy Miller
Healthy Udonis
Cole


Bulls:
Rip

/
Miami has improved more!

[Tenchi Ryu]

Battier
Healthy Miller
Healthy Udonis
Cole


Bulls:
Rip

/
Miami has improved more!
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Don't join this discussion anymore without watching Bulls games please.

[nba_55]

The better Team, but not the favorites. Having 2 superstars and an allstar will always make you the favorites. But Bulls have the deepest Team in the league, this shouldn't even be questioned anymore.

Bulls without Rose is a 4th seed

Heat without Big 3 barely make the playoffs....if that.
:facepalm

You take away 3 players from Heat and 1 from Bulls. What kind of logic is that?:lol :roll:

[TheNaturalWR]

Yes they did say the heat were the better team. Bulls getting the best record was the shocker of the season, NOBODY expected that.

And Heat don't look that much better to anyone else but Heat fans, and the rate of improvement is NO WHERE near the same as the Bulls. The ONLY thing that changed is a somewhat improvement in PG (barely) and Lebron James. Everything has either stayed the same or beena bust (I'm looking at you Batier).

The fact some keep comparing LAST YEAR'S Bulls proves how wrong you are. This is a completely different team.

Different team? Just because you get a new starting shooting guard doesn't make you anymore different when your PG will probably continue to shoot it 20+ times a game. Heat might not look different but do they really need to? LOL. They were the clear favorites when the Finals began and everybody was shocked they lost. They were the clear favorites before this season began even though they lost! What does that say about the Heat? They're just that good. Our bench is 10x better than last year. A healthy Haslem(would start on most teams), Battier(elite defender) who has played great recently and will continue to get better, Norris Cole, and a healthy Mike Miller. The only thing that has regressed is Wade but I'm sure he'll come back strong after he's completely healed.

The Bulls are a good team but you don't need to be a genius to see that the Heat are CLEARLY the favorites. People fail to realize that the Heat were an AVERAGE LeBron away from a championship in their first year when people didn't even think they'll make it to the ECF.

[nbaballllller]

Yes they did say the heat were the better team. Bulls getting the best record was the shocker of the season, NOBODY expected that.

And Heat don't look that much better to anyone else but Heat fans, and the rate of improvement is NO WHERE near the same as the Bulls. The ONLY thing that changed is a somewhat improvement in PG (barely) and Lebron James. Everything has either stayed the same or beena bust (I'm looking at you Batier).

The fact some keep comparing LAST YEAR'S Bulls proves how wrong you are. This is a completely different team.

lol both teams are better than they were last year.

But theres no way bulls beat miami in 7 game serious. Just wait for the playoffs.

I like rose and the bulls but miami is better

[nba_55]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Don't join this discussion anymore without watching Bulls games please.

Actually, initially, it was a Heat discussion, so, dont join Heat discussions without watching their games. It s clear from your posts that you dont watch their games.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Who the hell said Bulls are the Favorites? Being the best team is not the Favorites, Heat still have that. And the fact that you Heat fans keep going on about upgraded SG proves you guys have no clue what the hell you're talking about, and probably haven't watched an ounce of Bulls this season.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Actually, initially, it was a Heat discussion, so, dont join Heat discussions without watching their games. It s clear from your posts that you dont watch their games.
:no: :no: :no: :no:
League Pass buddy. Bulls fans study their enemy...not gloat and talk shit without any worries.

[TheNaturalWR]

Who the hell said Bulls are the Favorites? Being the best team is not the Favorites, Heat still have that. And the fact that you Heat fans keep going on about upgraded SG proves you guys have no clue what the hell you're talking about, and probably haven't watched an ounce of Bulls this season.

What kind of logic is that? Why the hell would you choose a team that you didn't think was the best to win it all? There's a reason why the Heat are the favorites.

[Tenchi Ryu]

What kind of logic is that? Why the hell would you choose a team that you didn't think was the best to win it all? There's a reason why the Heat are the favorites.
You clearly didn't watch the Finals....

Heat were the favs, but Mavs were the better TEAM.

[Heavincent]

I don't understand why the Heat are such heavy favorites to win the championship. lol at people acting like they're the 90's Bulls or early 00's Lakers or something.

[nba_55]

:no: :no: :no: :no:
League Pass buddy. Bulls fans study their enemy...not gloat and talk shit without any worries.
So, why are you saying that Heat only improved their PG position a bit and Lebron James? What about Haslem, Miller, Battier? We have much better rebounders and shooters this year.

I do know that Bulls doesnt have Rip as their only improvement. Brewer is better. Boozer is playing better. They have more experience together.
It s the same thing with Heat. They have more experience together. Chalmers is playing better. Bosh is much much better.

[cteach111]

Heat fans are the only ones who say this.

EVERYONE else, including ESPN and TNT panel knows the Bulls are. They say it almost every damn day.

We have the best starting 5 in the league, the deepest team in the league, and the best Defense. Its not even a question now.

respect for having confidence in ur team. I chalked the Bulls loss last year up to lack of experience, etc.

They ran into roadblocks in terms of how to handle certain situations, so I'll give them their due.

However... you still have to beat James, Wade, and Bosh coming at your team 100%. Oh and they have improved depth on their roster. Your team has defense? When Miami steps up their defensive game, it's on the Bulls level. The other problem is the scoring versatility on Miami's roster.

The Bulls have limited scorers on their roster, but Miami has Wade, Lebron, Bosh who can all beat a man off the dribble as well as hit the J. Their 3 point shooters consist of those 3, but they also have sharpshooters in Miller, Jones, Chalmers. They also have a rookie PG that can put pressure on your defense. They have Battier and James to throw at Deng. Bosh can go toe to toe with Boozer. They have a ton of options on this team.

It's just hard for me to imagine the Bulls beating the Heat 4 times, but they can certainly do it. If the Bulls want to beat the Heat, they'll need to trust each other when the pressure is on (and I actually think they'll be more prone to function better under pressure than the Heat will). In a playoff series, if the Bulls can put the Heat in a tough position (2 games to 0? 3 games to 1?) , they could probably break them mentally.

The thing that should really concern you though is that Lebron (and it disturbs me quite a bit to say this) has taken his game to another level. I don't know if you've been watching him this year, but he's a much more fluid player.

[StateOfMind12]

Tenchi Ryu, I suggest you stop wasting your time and just let them think what they want to think. These conversations just go in a circle and nothing more. They will see who the Bulls are next Sunday, that is if the Bulls are fully healthy. I say stop wasting your time with them and just let them believe what they want to believe.

[DRose1899]

I don't understand why the Heat are such heavy favorites to win the championship. lol at people acting like they're the 90's Bulls or early 00's Lakers or something.
I like it, considering the history. overhype them more plz. Can't have people "seeing reality" n heat playing like have feather on their feet like last year until finals. Mavs got all the fortune :facepalm

[Tenchi Ryu]

So, why are you saying that Heat only improved their PG position a bit and Lebron James? What about Haslem, Miller, Battier? We have much better rebounders and shooters this year.
Miller and Haslem were ALL this good during the ECF, that's why I say not AS much improvement.

That's why it kills me everytime people say "Lebron destroyed the Bulls". He didn't. Even though they were close, Heat had secret weapons.

Game 2, we had the big 3 under control, who was it that was the surprise? Haslem. We weren't expecting him, he came in, supplied excellent Rebounding, and second chance points.

Game 3, Bosh deciding to play like an All-star, and lit Boozer up. Just about everything he was putting up went in. That was one of the best playoffs performances I've seen from him.

Game 5, was the return of Mike Miller. He was lighting it up, he couldn't miss. Add the fact that was that Jones was also very hot that game.

That's why I say not much, everything you all are doing now, Bulls have seen it. The only difference is improvement in PG, and Lebron being better. You were honestly better in ECF than the Finals.

[Indian guy]

This is the 4th straight season LeBron's team will finish in the Top 5 offensively. A testament to his ability to mesh with all types of talent around him, something that was often doubted while he was a Cavalier, but got completely shattered last season when Miami's Big 3 had no trouble thriving and finishing 3rd on offense. And it's only gotten better this season(they ranked top 3 on O even prior to Wade's injury).

[TheAdmiral3]

This is the 4th straight season LeBron's team will finish in the Top 5 offensively. A testament to his ability to mesh with all types of talent around him, something that was often doubted while he was a Cavalier, but got completely shattered last season when Miami's Big 3 had no trouble thriving and finishing 3rd on offense. And it's only gotten better this season(they ranked top 3 on O even prior to Wade's injury).
Now that you are back to sucking lebron's dick again, how does it taste this time?

[cteach111]

This is the 4th straight season LeBron's team will finish in the Top 5 offensively. A testament to his ability to mesh with all types of talent around him, something that was often doubted while he was a Cavalier, but got completely shattered last season when Miami's Big 3 had no trouble thriving and finishing 3rd on offense. And it's only gotten better this season(they ranked top 3 on O even prior to Wade's injury).

meh.. when you have bosh/wade and fairly good depth, you better finish top 5.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Good Post


And agree with all that, when I say better team, I mean just that. Bulls are better than the Heat as TEAM, as in ALL 13-15 players together. But that doesn't mean Heat will be defeated easily, if at all. The Bulls having a better team is NEEDED imo just to be able to go against a Big 3 with an improved LBJ.

[nba_55]

Miller and Haslem were ALL this good during the ECF, that's why I say not AS much improvement.

That's why it kills me everytime people say "Lebron destroyed the Bulls". He didn't. Even though they were close, Heat had secret weapons.

Game 2, we had the big 3 under control, who was it that was the surprise? Haslem. We weren't expecting him, he came in, supplied excellent Rebounding, and second chance points.

Game 3, Bosh deciding to play like an All-star, and lit Boozer up. Just about everything he was putting up went in. That was one of the best playoffs performances I've seen from him.

Game 5, was the return of Mike Miller. He was lighting it up, he couldn't miss. Add the fact that was that Jones was also very hot that game.

That's why I say not much, everything you all are doing now, Bulls have seen it. The only difference is improvement in PG, and Lebron being better. You were honestly better in ECF than the Finals.

Miller and Haslem had one good game each the whole series. Expect them to make more impact this time, if healthy obviously. Dont expect Wade to play like a scrub whole series.
It s obvious that both teams has improved. I still think that Bulls dont have enough offense to beat this Heat team.

[cteach111]

And agree with all that, when I say better team, I mean just that. Bulls are better than the Heat as TEAM, as in ALL 13-15 players together. But that doesn't mean Heat will be defeated easily, if at all. The Bulls having a better team is NEEDED imo just to be able to go against a Big 3 with an improved LBJ.

theres a reason I like what the Bulls are doing. I value team basketball in the purest sense. They play like a team a lot like the Celtics a few years back.

I guess that's the kind of basketball i enjoy the most.

[Tenchi Ryu]

I still think that Bulls dont have enough offense to beat this Heat team.
Iunno...basically last year with Boozer not stepping up and injured, Rose injured, and no shot creators, the plan was basically "Stop Rose....Stop the Bulls". And unfortunately that was successful. But its a different case this year.

Rose
Watson
Lucas
James
and even some cases now Deng

That's 5 people we have now that can create their own shot, way more than last year. Add to the fact that better spacing and ball movement has greatly benefited the Bulls our consistent offensive players have been

Rose
Watson
Rip
Brewer
Lucas
Deng
Boozer
And when not on a cold streak Korver

That's looking pretty good for offensive weapons.

[TheNaturalWR]

You clearly didn't watch the Finals....

Heat were the favs, but Mavs were the better TEAM.

The Heat were the favs and the better team. The Mavs just played the better series and it's clear as day that the Heat gave the series away. Like I said it's not hard to see why the Heat are the favorites to win it. They dominated the road to Finals and LeBron just decided to lay an egg at the perfect time.

[Heavincent]

The Heat were the favs and the better team. The Mavs just played the better series and it's clear as day that the Heat gave the series away. Like I said it's not hard to see why the Heat are the favorites to win it. They dominated the road to Finals and LeBron just decided to lay an egg at the perfect time.

If the Heat were a better team, they would've beaten the Mavs. But they didn't, so the Mavs were quite obviously the better team last year. Pretty simple logic.

[LakersReign]

Same thing like last year. People start talking trash simply cuz the Heat won a few games. A team with Lebron on it has been "the favorite" since '09, so I tried of hearing that hot garbage. Wade and Lebron haven't yet learned how to compliment each other, so we'll see what they look like when Wade comes off the injury.

[brandonislegend]

Wasn't LeBron23 a Cavalier fan?

[EnoughSaid]

The Heat were the favs and the better team. The Mavs just played the better series and it's clear as day that the Heat gave the series away. Like I said it's not hard to see why the Heat are the favorites to win it. They dominated the road to Finals and LeBron just decided to lay an egg at the perfect time.

I too thought that the Heat just gave away the series. Think about this, heading into Dallas with a 2-0 cushion? :rockon:

[Heavincent]

Wasn't LeBron23 a Cavalier fan?

He's strictly a Lebron fan. It's kind of funny how the Lebron groupies pretend to be Heat fans though.

[LakersReign]

Wasn't LeBron23 a Cavalier fan?


No more than all the other "real" Cavs fan, who didn't know Cleveland had an NBA team til '03) when Lebron showed up. Now they all jumped the bandwagon the minute he left Cleveland, talking bout how the Cavs sucked. So now they're "real" Heat fans.:hammerhead:

[Heavincent]

No more than all the other "real" Cavs fan, who didn't know Cleveland had an NBA team til '03) when Lebron showed up. Now they all jumped the bandwagon the minute he left Cleveland, talking bout how the Cavs sucked. So now they're "real" Heat fans.:hammerhead:

I know a few real Cavs fans that were pissed because there were so many Cavs "fans" that only rooted for Lebron. Now we all know who the real Cavs fans are (props to them), and who the fake bandwagon fans are.

[Fawker]

he's a third world philippine jungle livin, half black half filipino (his dad was a queer navy guy stationed there) deserted son hogging internet bandswitch from his fellow villagers. he speaks no english and copies quotes from other forums.

[TheNaturalWR]

If the Heat were a better team, they would've beaten the Mavs. But they didn't, so the Mavs were quite obviously the better team last year. Pretty simple logic.

Not at all. There's a word called "upset" and that's what happened. Pretty simple logic when you're the favs and you lose. :confusedshrug:

[TheNaturalWR]

Same thing like last year. People start talking trash simply cuz the Heat won a few games. A team with Lebron on it has been "the favorite" since '09, so I tried of hearing that hot garbage. Wade and Lebron haven't yet learned how to compliment each other, so we'll see what they look like when Wade comes off the injury.

They sure looked like they could play together all the way up to Finals. There comes a point when chemistry doesn't matter because your talent is just too much. This is the case of LeBron and Wade. I'll take LeBron and Wade over any other big 2 or 3 that compliment each other.

[Heavincent]

Not at all. There's a word called "upset" and that's what happened. Pretty simple logic when you're the favs and you lose. :confusedshrug:

So the Heat didn't win the championship, and they didn't have the best regular season record, but they were the best team? How the hell does that work? They don't just play the championship for shits and giggles you know, it's to prove who the best team is.

The Heat just got beat by a better team, simple as that. Accept it, and move on.

[LakersReign]

I know a few real Cavs fans that were pissed because there were so many Cavs "fans" that only rooted for Lebron. Now we all know who the real Cavs fans are (props to them), and who the fake bandwagon fans are.


No disrespect for the true Cavs fans, cuz I can remember watching Mark Price do his thing back in the day. What kills me, is that these clowns blatantly jump the bandwagon. Then try to turn right around and call Laker fans bandwagoners, just to make themselves feel better. Like that's somehow supposed to change something.:lol

[LakersReign]

They sure looked like they could play together all the way up to Finals. There comes a point when chemistry doesn't matter because your talent is just too much. This is the case of LeBron and Wade. I'll take LeBron and Wade over any other big 2 or 3 that compliment each other.


Complimenting each other means playing off each other, and they haven't done that yet. Both still dominate the ball, with Bosh frozen out of the offense cuz of that. Hell, without the ball, Lebron just stands around doing nothing. For so long we've been hearing about them supposedly meshing into the supposedly unstoppable fast break tandem, and have yet to see it. And at this point it won't happen until one of them becomes the passer.

[dude77]

Not at all. There's a word called "upset" and that's what happened. Pretty simple logic when you're the favs and you lose. :confusedshrug:

Dallas earned the title of the better team .. it was an upset but it wasn't like a one game upset .. they beat them in a 7 game series and it didn't even reach seven games so it wasn't a fluke ..

in actuality though, Miami should have won .. lebron let Miami down bigtime in the finals .. until he shows he can perform and not choke in the finals, it isn't so hard to bet against him

[n00bie]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/2012.html


:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

With lebron, wade & bosh.. they BETTER be leading the NBA in scoring. That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, and this topic isn't even thread worthy.

[Lebron23]

With lebron, wade & bosh.. they BETTER be leading the NBA in scoring. That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, and this topic isn't even thread worthy.


Miami Heat are 6-0 without Wade. You need to watch some games Mr. Noobie. They beat and owned the Spurs, Lakers, and Sixers in their last 3 games.

[Alamo]

A top 5 offensive Team + Good defense = Championship formula. At the end of the day the team who scores more points wins the game.


Miami is 1st in offense and 7th in defense
Bulls are 3rd in offense and 2nd in defense

What about a top 5 offensive + top 5 defensive team? The Bulls offense has improved greatly since last season. :bowdown:

[Clocian-IGN]

Miami is 1st in offense and 7th in defense
Bulls are 3rd in offense and 2nd in defense

What about a top 5 offensive + top 5 defensive team? The Bulls offense has improved greatly since last season. :bowdown:

yessir, and we've only played like 4 game with our starting lineup :bowdown:. Once everyone gets healthy.....:bowdown:

cant wait for the bulls/heat game :pimp:

[Eric Cartman]

Bulls Heat ECF = Best series in last 15 years.

[derb2k2]

ahha yea gotta love the Bulls' fans claiming they are the deepest and most complete team. I'm sure that spanking in last year's ECF still hurts eh? The Bulls are an overachieving team. They will lose again to the better team(HEAT) in the ECF again.

[ballinhun8]

ahha yea gotta love the Bulls' fans claiming they are the deepest and most complete team. I'm sure that spanking in last year's ECF still hurts eh? The Bulls are an overachieving team. They will lose again to the better team(HEAT) in the ECF again.


You really cant call it overachieving if the next season they come back and have the best record in the league through 1/3 of the season almost. It would be called consistent.




No it don't hurt because what we saw that series was an anomoly. We saw James play lights out in crunch time. Kind of like hitting the lotto twice in your life. Sure everyone can say the Heat won with a crappy Wade but they also had a never seen before LeBron who played better then he ever has in his career. And please stop talking about this year you have a healthy Mike Miller, he has played, what 3 games this season so far and you claim he's healthy already for the postseason?? Guy is as fragile as a jenga made building. And Cole prolly won't even play in a series wit Rose. Don't wanna put pressure on the scrub took.



We will have to wait til this season. Hopefully both squads are fully healthy. But as a Bulls fan, the regular season matters, I want HCA.

[ThatsGame]

Miami is 1st in offense and 7th in defense
Bulls are 3rd in offense and 2nd in defense

What about a top 5 offensive + top 5 defensive team? The Bulls offense has improved greatly since last season. :bowdown:

http://memebase.com/wp-content/themes/vip/cheezcommon2/ragecomic/packs/seriously/images/JackieChan.png

The Bulls haven't played any real contenders yet, other than the Grizz which they split the series with..

Anyway the Heat's SRS is 9.78 compared to the Bull's 8.77..

The Heat are a better team.

[Clocian-IGN]

http://memebase.com/wp-content/themes/vip/cheezcommon2/ragecomic/packs/seriously/images/JackieChan.png

The Bulls haven't played any real contenders yet, other than the Grizz which they split the series with..

Anyway the Heat's SRS is 9.78 compared to the Bull's 8.77..

The Heat are a better team.

:roll:

look at this guy lying through his computer. what "contenders" have the heat faced?

[Dave3]

Bulls Heat ECF = Best series in last 15 years.
Don't speak too soon. Everytime someone hypes up a series it either doesn't happen or ends up 4-1. I refuse to hype up anything before it happens.

[ThatsGame]

Dallas, Spurs, 76'ers, Nuggets, Pacers

[StateOfMind12]

Dallas, Spurs, 76'ers, Nuggets, Pacers
None of those teams you just listed are contenders, they are all just playoff teams. The best team of that group is the Nuggets though and they were the ones that blew out the Heat.

[Dave3]

Dallas, Spurs, 76'ers, Nuggets, Pacers
Add Lakers, Clippers and Celtics. The Heat have played decent teams so far. The main 2 other contenders are OKC/Chicago, but other than them, Miami has already played almost all of the other good teams. People just need something to hate on.

[ThatsGame]

None of those teams you just listed are contenders, they are all just playoff teams. The best team of that group is the Nuggets though and they were the ones that blew out the Heat.

They are a hell of a lot better then the teams the Bulls are facing. You missing the point?

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[derb2k2]

You really cant call it overachieving if the next season they come back and have the best record in the league through 1/3 of the season almost. It would be called consistent.




No it don't hurt because what we saw that series was an anomoly. We saw James play lights out in crunch time. Kind of like hitting the lotto twice in your life. Sure everyone can say the Heat won with a crappy Wade but they also had a never seen before LeBron who played better then he ever has in his career. And please stop talking about this year you have a healthy Mike Miller, he has played, what 3 games this season so far and you claim he's healthy already for the postseason?? Guy is as fragile as a jenga made building. And Cole prolly won't even play in a series wit Rose. Don't wanna put pressure on the scrub took.



We will have to wait til this season. Hopefully both squads are fully healthy. But as a Bulls fan, the regular season matters, I want HCA.

ofcourse you do. I can smell the fear emanating out of your pores from where I sit. :roll:

[StateOfMind12]

They are a hell of a lot better then the teams the Bulls are facing. You missing the point?

http://memebase.com/wp-content/themes/vip/cheezcommon2/ragecomic/packs/angry2/images/AreYouKiddingMe.png
Not really.

Every team the Heat have beat, the Bulls have beat. I can think of a few teams that the Bulls have beat that the Heat didn't beat though. (e.g. Clippers, Warriors).

You also didn't mention how the Bulls have barely been able to play at full strength this season. Sure, the Heat have been missing Wade but they are what 7-0 without him? The truth is Lebron and Wade are better off without each other. I am sure you would have a similar result if Lebron was out and Wade was at full strength.

[Derka]

Not surprising considering how much offense they create out of great team defense and transition play.

[ThatsGame]

Not really.

Every team the Heat have beat, the Bulls have beat. I can think of a few teams that the Bulls have beat that the Heat didn't beat though. (e.g. Clippers, Warriors).

You also didn't mention how the Bulls have barely been able to play at full strength this season. Sure, the Heat have been missing Wade but they are what 7-0 without him? The truth is Lebron and Wade are better off without each other. I am sure you would have a similar result if Lebron was out and Wade was at full strength.


The Bulls haven't beat the teams I listed above. Because of their easy schedule. Which is my goddamned point.

Once the Bulls face a real contender, the teams numbers and ranks will be adjusted.

Any decent team will get 1st offense and 1st defense against teams like the Pistons and Kings..Wizards..

[Clocian-IGN]

The Bulls haven't beat the teams I listed above. Because of their easy schedule. Which is my goddamned point.

Once the Bulls face a real contender, the teams numbers and ranks will be adjusted.

Any decent team will get 1st offense and 1st defense against teams like the Pistons and Kings..Wizards..

we most def. beat the clips, because I remember clearly of rose owning cp3. We've beaten our share of good teams this year and we've played the most games and road games of any team thus far. also considering rose and a lot of other players in our roster has been in/out it has definitely been a impressive start :bowdown:

[TheMan]

Heat are easily the best team in the NBA. Bulls had a better bench and more wins last year. Heavincent, you hijack every Miami thread. You can't even deny it
Bulls were 9-8 last year while they are 15-3 this year...:confusedshrug:

[StateOfMind12]

Not surprising considering how much offense they create out of great team defense and transition play.
Transition play is the only reason. The Heat's defense isn't great this season, it's good at best.

[TheMan]

The Bulls and Heat are better this year, I could see the ECF going 6-7 games and the winner being favs in the Finals.

[Heavincent]

ThatsGame is a huge Heat homer. His opinion doesn't count here.

[All Net]

ThatsGame is a huge Heat homer. His opinion doesn't count here.

So are most when talking about heat vs bulls in here...

[Heavincent]

So are most when talking about heat vs bulls in here...

Not really.

[nba_55]

ThatsGame is a huge Heat homer. His opinion doesn't count here.

Hehehe... Look who is talking!

[Heavincent]

Hehehe... Look who is talking!

I'm a Nets fan dude. I've got absolutely nothing to be a homer about considering how ****ing bad they are.

[nba_55]

I'm a Nets fan dude. I've got absolutely nothing to be a homer about considering how ****ing bad they are.

You are not a fan. You are just a hater, a Heat hater.

[Alamo]

http://memebase.com/wp-content/themes/vip/cheezcommon2/ragecomic/packs/seriously/images/JackieChan.png

The Bulls haven't played any real contenders yet, other than the Grizz which they split the series with..

Anyway the Heat's SRS is 9.78 compared to the Bull's 8.77..

The Heat are a better team.

Why are you getting so defensive? All I said was the Bulls have improved offensively since last year. lol Heat fans :facepalm

[ThatsGame]

You are not a fan. You are just a hater, a Heat hater.

Truth.

Heaven got on the ignore list weeks ago.

:applause:

[ThatsGame]

Why are you getting so defensive? All I said was the Bulls have improved offensively since last year. lol Heat fans :facepalm

Defensive?

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Just telling the truth.

[MichaelCheazley]

And lol at chicago thinking its going to be a cakewalk to the ecf. You faced the hawks and pacers last year. If your matched up with the celtics, magic or even knicks, either can upset you. OF course teams can beat the heat too though.

[Heavincent]

Heaven got on the ignore list weeks ago.


Truth hurts, doesn't it? :roll:

[Tenchi Ryu]

And lol at chicago thinking its going to be a cakewalk to the ecf. You faced the hawks and pacers last year. If your matched up with the celtics, magic or even knicks, either can upset you. OF course teams can beat the heat too though.
Such a wrong post. We went againt the team that demolished Orlando last year.

And the Pacers were definitely better than Sixers....

[MichaelCheazley]

Such a wrong post. We went againt the team that demolished Orlando last year.

And the Pacers were definitely better than Sixers....
Styles make matchups. I think the magic are an interesting matchup. Pacers vs sixers is definetely debatable. The heat just MADE the 76ers look much worse while the bulls played indiana to a close series.

[StateOfMind12]

Styles make matchups. I think the magic are an interesting matchup. Pacers vs sixers is definetely debatable. The heat just MADE the 76ers look much worse while the bulls played indiana to a close series.
I think Bulls will get the #1 seed so I don't think the Bulls will have to face the Magic since I think the Magic will be the #3 seed. I think the Magic will give the Heat a far harder time in a 7 game series than the Bulls if they were to meet in the post-season. I was going to make thread about this and I probably will later tonight.


And lol at chicago thinking its going to be a cakewalk to the ecf. You faced the hawks and pacers last year. If your matched up with the celtics, magic or even knicks, either can upset you. OF course teams can beat the heat too though.
Lets be real, every East team except maybe the Magic are far below the Bulls and Heat

[MichaelCheazley]

I think Bulls will get the #1 seed so I don't think the Bulls will have to face the Magic since I think the Magic will be the #3 seed. I think the Magic will give the Heat a far harder time in a 7 game series than the Bulls if they were to meet in the post-season. I was going to make thread about this and I probably will later tonight.


Lets be real, every East team except maybe the Magic are far below the Bulls and Heat
Not a good thing to be too overconfident for either of our teams, my friend. The condensed season and injuries will be factors. But the celts seem to be breaking down, the magic are good now, but I keep telling myself to not countout the knicks. They made the finals last lockout and were the 8th seed. The team has potential, and if they click they have pieces and have that potential to explode on a team and go on a hot streak (like in 99). Of course the pacers and 76ers seem to be better but still not enough imo.