Whats wrong with the Miami Heat?

[nathanjizzle]

why are they not winning like they should? i havent been paying attention to them or watching there games...but how are they not winning games like they should? Are they just not as good enough as everyone thinks they are? Heres the conference standings as of now

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8995/itssolonelyatthetop.png

[2swift4u]

good question... they looked really bad in the back to back games and they lost twice in OT. Wade has either been hurt or playing bad so far. But besides that they played some really good games. They actually look better to me than last year, since their roster is much deeper this year. I think in the end they will be a slightly better version of last season's team with the same problems

[dunksby]

East :facepalm

[cteach111]

it's the Wade/Lebron dilemma. The Heat lost 3 straight when Wade came back prematurely.. then he came out and they went on a winning streak before losing to the Bucks.

I don't think Wade being healthy mattered that much because the way the Heat handle pressure is still very suspect.. which is how the first 2 losses on that road trip happened.

Guess we'll see what happens when the playoffs come around again.

[Rnbizzle]

Who cares? They'll get it together before the playoffs, and this is coming from a Bulls fan.

[knickscity]

They have been resting their players and still have a damn good record.

SMH at the OP.

[Lebron23]

You are comparing regular season record at this time of the year. Another winning streaks, and the Heat are back at the top 2 spot. Please compare their record at 3/4 of the season.

They already defeated the Hawks, Sixers, and Pacers this year. Even if the playoffs starts tomorrow. I don't think any of those teams are capable of beating the Heat in a best of 7 series.

[1rkrage]

Jeez man some of you need to take the chill pill. Fellow Bulls fans, it's still quite early in the season, and as we've seen last season, the playoffs is a different kind of beast.

good thing D Rose seems to be coasting. I would think the heat are doing that as well. I believe being fresh in the playoffs with this condensed season will be needed.

[RaininTwos]

they are 3.5 games back lol

[Lebron23]

they are 3.5 games back lol


16 games into the season. Heat are only 3.5 games behind the Chicago Bulls. Bulls played more games than the Miami Heat.

[nashwade]

If you see their losses, they are against teams they wil never meet in the playoffs. Its kinda like lakers never win against bobcats in the regular season but who cares?

[nathanjizzle]

16 games into the season. Heat are only 3.5 games behind the Chicago Bulls. Bulls played more games than the Miami Heat.

okay to give you a grasp of how they are performing so far record wise. To give them an even amount of games played to the bulls which is 19, they would win 2-1 of there next 3 games considering there current win percentage which would put them at 13 and 6. Now if they keep performing like they did the last 19 games they will finish with a 45-21 record while the bulls would finish with a 56-10 record. That would put them at 11 games behind the bulls. Not saying that thats how badly they are gonna be behind...just how horrible there record is so far compared to the bulls.

[Scholar]

You're already asking what's wrong with them and it's only 16 games in WITH one of their best players not playing?
The East is always going to have inflated stats. Look at their competition. The only teams that are actually potential title winners are the Bulls & Heat. The other teams will be huge surprises for title runs.
No offense to fans of the other teams. I'm just calling it as I see it.

[Scholar]

If you see their losses, they are against teams they wil never meet in the playoffs. Its kinda like lakers never win against bobcats in the regular season but who cares?

It seems more like the Lakers can't ever win against Gerald Wallace, man. It's that damn dude Gerald.
Now he's in Portland and what happens when Lakers' faced Portland? They got their asses whooped!
We need somebody who can put a body on Gerald and not get dominated in the post and/or outran toward the basket.

[Mr. Jabbar]

[quote=2swift4u]good question... they looked really bad in the back to back games and they lost twice in OT. Wade has either been hurt or playing bad so far. But besides that they played some really good games. They actually look better to me than last year, since their roster is much deeper this year. I think in the end they will be a slightly better version of last season's team with the same problems

[All Net]

It's 16 games into the season where wade has missed a bunch of games, miller has missed a bunch and only just got back. They had a bad set of games on the west trip which was within a few points.

A result here and there and they are 2nd seed. You don't win championships for doing great in the first 10+ games... They were 9-8 last year and made the finals.

They could easily be 15-5 by the end of this week. As great as bulls have been a win by Miami over the bulls on Sunday and they will be just one back in the loss column.

[Clutch]

It's 16 games into the season where wade has missed a bunch of games, miller has missed a bunch and only just got back. They had a bad set of games on the west trip in which they choked.

A result here and there and they are 2nd seed. You don't win championships for doing great in the first 10+ games... They were 9-8 last year and made the finals.

They could easily be 15-5 by the end of this week
Little correction.

[All Net]

Little correction.

Well they choked vs GS, don't think they choked vs the clippers.that game was up for grabs by both.

[AlphaWolf24]

Thier best closer is out...

[jlip]

I just felt the need to bump this thread.

Standings just one day after this thread was made. (http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html)

[Lebron23]

The OP just wasted some bandwidth. Miami Heat are gonna take that no.1 spot after the Heat beat the Bulls.

[Tenchi Ryu]

The OP just wasted some bandwidth. Miami Heat are gonna take that no.1 spot after the Heat beat the Bulls.
No...cause Bulls have more wins.

[D-Wade316]

What's wrong with you?

[nathanjizzle]

I just felt the need to bump this thread.

Standings just one day after this thread was made. (http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html)

24 9:50 a.m

26 12:15

one day? or are you exaggerating to try to make a point

[All Net]

24 9:50 a.m

26 12:15

one day? or are you exaggerating to try to make a point

I think his point is don't overreact by what you see in the standings his early in the season. A lot can change so quickly as it did last night.

[nathanjizzle]

I think his point is don't overreact by what you see in the standings his early in the season. A lot can change so quickly as it did last night.


i wasnt asking for what his point was...i was pointing out he was exagerrating to make a point. And what your claim his point was is irrelevant...that has nothing to do with my original post. i was asking why they were losing games.


why are they not winning like they should? i havent been paying attention to them or watching there games...but how are they not winning games like they should? Are they just not as good enough as everyone thinks they are?

[HurricaneKid]

24 9:50 a.m

26 12:15

one day? or are you exaggerating to try to make a point

OP was made on the 24th and his post was made on the 25th. If you are in the eastern time zone so what?

[nathanjizzle]

OP was made on the 24th and his post was made on the 25th. If you are in the eastern time zone so what?

so they played 2 games in 1 day? i cant correct someones exaggerated statement now?

[nathanjizzle]

well, i found my answer.....there currently 19th in defense, which is why they have lost games they should have won.

[HurricaneKid]

I know you are dumb. I didn't realize you were that dumb. The next day is not a time 24 hours from now. In fact, tomorrow is up to 38 hours hours from now for me.

[HurricaneKid]

Last year they were 10-8 through 18 games. This year, without DWade in half their games, they are 13-5. Woe is the Heat!

[jlip]

so they played 2 games in 1 day? i cant correct someones exaggerated statement now?

:facepalm

[Kurosawa0]

13-5 isn't remotely a bad record. The people who thought they would win 60 games were crazy.

[LA_Showtime]

I thought this would be their year, but they still look mentally weak. It doesn't help that no one knows who's taking the last shot... not even LeBron or Wade.

[insidehoops]

I assume everyone knows that Dwyane Wade hasn't played since January 13.

Yet despite that, they're 13-5, tied for 3rd best record in the entire league

Nothing is "wrong" with them so far. Strange topic.

[SpecialQue]

Nothing's wrong with Miami.

They can lose every match against the Wizards, Bobcats, and Pistons, and if they were barely at the 8 spot, they'd still destroy their playoff opponents and stretch anuses.

People want to pretend there's some kind of imaginary disaster happening, but they just have off games every now and then. Fact is, they're probably making the finals again. Stop making shit up.

[insidehoops]

More was expected from both Shane Battier, and also Udonis Haslem is missing too often, but that should probably come along in time

[TheNaturalWR]

Nothing's wrong with Miami.

They can lose every match against the Wizards, Bobcats, and Pistons, and if they were barely at the 8 spot, they'd still destroy their playoff opponents and stretch anuses.

People want to pretend there's some kind of imaginary disaster happening, but they just have off games every now and then. Fact is, they're probably making the finals again. Stop making shit up.

+1. At the end of the day they're just too talented and that alone will win you playoff series. People keep forgetting they DOMINATED their road to the Finals and then LeBron laid an egg. I don't expect LeBron to do this season and if Wade plays the way he usually does in the Finals a ship' is coming to Miami.

[chairman]

+1. At the end of the day they're just too talented and that alone will win you playoff series. People keep forgetting they DOMINATED their road to the Finals and then LeBron laid an egg. I don't expect LeBron to do this season and if Wade plays the way he usually does in the Finals a ship' is coming to Miami.
Lol if you think the heat are getting to the finals again

[ThatsGame]

I thought this would be their year, but they still look mentally weak. It doesn't help that no one knows who's taking the last shot... not even LeBron or Wade.

Are you sure about that, or just talking out your ass?

[pegasus]

If barely beating the Cavs and the Pistons with a ton of ref help is not a cause for concern, then I guess nothing is.

If Bosh hadn't been shooting out of his mind lately, they would have been looking at another three straight loss even with the help they get from the refs.

[D-Wade316]

If barely beating the Cavs and the Pistons with a ton of ref help is not a cause for concern, then I guess nothing is.

If Bosh hadn't been shooting out of his mind lately, they would have been looking at another three straight loss even with the help they get from the refs.
Remember 9-8?

[pegasus]

Remember 9-8?

That was their start last year, right? Yeah, it does seem better this year, but nobody was expecting them to go back to that erratic start anyway. They played way too many close games against the non-elite teams (heck, most of them were trash) to be really content with this start.

I know Wade is injured, but they look even worse with him on the floor, and that's not only because he was hurt. Lebron and Wade still haven't figured out how to coexist. Once Wade returns, either Lebron or Bosh's production will take a hit, if not both of theirs.

[swi7ch]

See you in the Finals :rockon:

[D-Wade316]

That was their start last year, right? Yeah, it does seem better this year, but nobody was expecting them to go back to that erratic start anyway. They played way too many close games against the non-elite teams (heck, most of them were trash) to be really content with this start.

I know Wade is injured, but they look even worse with him on the floor, and that's not only because he was hurt. Lebron and Wade still haven't figured out how to coexist. Once Wade returns, either Lebron or Bosh's production will take a hit, if not both of theirs.
Yeah. Their numbers would dip. But I'm confident of them three. The team played great in the first 2 games when Wade was healthy, so no worries.

[derb2k2]

much ado about nothing imo. My diagnosis is that they're coasting. Need some rest with a season like this.

[All Net]

If barely beating the Cavs and the Pistons with a ton of ref help is not a cause for concern, then I guess nothing is.

If Bosh hadn't been shooting out of his mind lately, they would have been looking at another three straight loss even with the help they get from the refs.

Think we all know by now in the regular season it isn

[pegasus]

[QUOTE=All Net]Think we all know by now in the regular season it isn

[RaininTwos]

OP, can you tell me what's wrong with them now?

[nathanjizzle]

OP, can you tell me what's wrong with them now?

can you tell me whats wrong with them now?

[All Net]

can you tell me whats wrong with them now?

they are 16-6...nothing is wrong with them. There are no different to any of the other top contenders. They have the same amount of losses as the Bulls and two off the Thunder. They are hardly in terrible shape.

[DirtySanchez]

Ummm heat been playing well...u just can't win them all. And it doesn't help when the Bucks got hot. Oh well....what am I saying I love the fact the Heat are losing.

[TheCorporation]

They give up big leads too often, but they are tied for the 3rd best record in the league and Wade was hurt for a portion of that. (Yes they still won games but that isn't the point, more minutes/pressure was put on the other core players and bench which should in turn cause more fatigue in the long run)

[LEFT4DEAD]

They need to sell Wade and I'm serious.

[gigantes]

They need to sell Wade and I'm serious.
impossible! slavery was abolished in 1863.

[keep-itreal]

coach spoelstra.

Coaching staff needs to develop better offensive game. Not Lebron iso dwade iso, bosh shooting elbow jumpers all day.

[Tenchi Ryu]

impossible! slavery was abolished in 1863.
Not according to Bryant Gumbel it wasn't.....

[jimmy77x]

Every time they lose a game the excuses start flowing like Niagara falls and the infamous statements " they're coasting" " they dont care about the reg season" arrive, then when they win all of a sudden they are back to playing " championship level basketball :lol The heat may very well turn it on in the playoffs but why cant people ( heat bandwagoners) accept that they outright lose games, and get outplayed some nights? I guess in the clouded minds of heat fans they cant lose games because they got outplayed, they're coasting:roll: :roll:

[Pacers4ever]

Every time they lose a game the excuses start flowing like Niagara falls and the infamous statements " they're coasting" " they dont care about the reg season" arrive, then when they win all of a sudden they are back to playing " championship level basketball :lol The heat may very well turn it on in the playoffs but why cant people ( heat bandwagoners) accept that they outright lose games, and get outplayed some nights? I guess in the clouded minds of heat fans they cant lose games because they got outplayed, they're coasting:roll: :roll:
Why would you bump this thread of all threads to prove your point when this thread basically proves regular season losses/wins don't mean much to heat?

[jimmy77x]

Why would you bump this thread of all threads to prove your point when this thread basically proves regular season losses/wins don't mean much to heat?

Just another excuse, they havent done anything yet to prove they can win multiple championships while "coasting" through the reg season and until they do spare the they dont care crap they won 1 title big deal, they do care about reg season games they just outright lose some games because they get outplayed period

[JGXEN]

They're just coasting in the mid season... they'll be fine

[PJR]

The Heat are vulnerable inside, and thus will catch some loses to teams with the ability to exploit that vulnerability.

But when push comes to shove, I'll take Lebron and D.Wade taking your team out in a best of 7 series.

Next.

[Indian guy]

They are a team with a couple of glaring flaws(no size & sucky PGs) and are coasting on top of it. Not a good combination.

[tazb]

The Pacers will be another team that has swept Miami in the regular season but will lose to them in 5 in the playoffs :oldlol:. Nothing to see here folks.

[Ramiah]

They will be fine come playoff time and i hate the heat with a passion. That is nothing OP.

[Smoke117]

Nothing, really. They are just cruising through the regular season.

[Hank]

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[Y2Gezee]

Lebron tricked Riley into thinking he could play PF...instead Battier is doing it.

[Bigsmoke]

They suck at rebounding

[Derka]

I watched my team coast through the 2010 regular season and then "turn it on" in the playoffs.

What the Heat are doing right now...isn't that.

[RRR3]

Lebron tricked Riley into thinking he could play PF...instead Battier is doing it.
Haslem is the PF now and has been for a while. Try to keep up.

[Bandito]

I watched my team coast through the 2010 regular season and then "turn it on" in the playoffs.

What the Heat are doing right now...isn't that.
They are probably tired, they have to give the day off to some players.

[Derka]

They are probably tired, they have to give the day off to some players.

Their bench players were much more consistent last regular season. Not so much this time around. Coupled with Wade's relative inconsistency (also more pronounced this year compared to last) and Lebron is shouldering a lot more of the load over what feels like about the same kind of minutes.

They're still the odds-on favorite, no doubt...but they're not coasting right now. Some of their guys just aren't playing well.

[All Net]

Even with Miami's struggles they still have what the 3rd or 4th best record? they are coasting at times but are still come end of the season have a top 3 seed most likely. They have sucked bad on the road but you know come playoff time winning on the road won't be an issue for them.