Eric Gordon extension is off

[OKCThunderUP]

Per Marc J Spears of Yahoo!: Hornets didnt reach terms with guard Eric Gordon on a contract extension and he will be a restricted free agent this summer NBA sources say.

[Batz]

inb4 Do it Mitch!

[Clippersfan86]

Damn! Big news. If Stern goes cheap and this dude doesn't get a matched offer sheet he's going to find a new squad. Somebody is going to pay him big.

[Zedja]

Do it Mitch :banana: :banana:

[colorz]

inb4 Do it Mitch!

:lol

[therammingman]

basketball reasons

surprised nobody said it...

[L.Kizzle]

He's played 2 games this season right ...

[DRose1899]

Offer the max for him or Harden next year, Dan Gilbert, do it.

Kyrie-Gordon/Harden :bowdown:

[OKCThunderUP]

Offer the max for him or Harden next year, Dan Gilbert, do it.

Kyrie-Gordon/Harden :bowdown:

Why in the world would you give a max deal to Harden?

[hops and stops]

what are the Clippers' cap situation like now? any chance he ends up back in their 2 spot?

[DRose1899]

Why in the world would you give a max deal to Harden?
Why not? Harden is one the best max for team like cavs get, he's better than JJ anyway.
U Mad (afraid) OKC fan? :lol

[BGriffin's Dad]

what are the Clippers' cap situation like now? any chance he ends up back in their 2 spot?

CP3, EJ, Butler, Griffin, and DJ would be a dream come true :banana:

[InspiredLebowski]

what are the Clippers' cap situation like now? any chance he ends up back in their 2 spot?lolno

[thatoneblackguy]

So the Hornets traded Chris Paul for Aminu, Kaman, and a first round pick? :wtf:

[bdreason]

Someone will offer Gordon max. He knows this, and isn't going to take less than max to stay in N.O.

[JGXEN]

Celtics, lets give him a max contract!!!!!!


:banana:

[colorz]

lolno

What does Indiana's cap space look like? I've always heard that EJ always wanted to return there.

[cteach111]

has he played a full season yet? :violin:

[TaLvsCuaL]

He would fit perfectly in the current Wolves.

[Lebron23]

He's played 2 games this season right ...


This

Check his knees.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7503877/new-orleans-hornets-eric-gordon-miss-least-three-more-weeks


has he played a full season yet? :violin:

He's injury prone.

[InspiredLebowski]

What does Indiana's cap space look like? I've always heard that EJ always wanted to return there.20ish million to spend. But Hibbert and Hill need extensions. Hill's not gonna break the bank, he won't get some massive raise. Hibbert obviously will.

If he wants the max then no thanks. He's a max level player, the problem is he isn't an actual player all that often.

[hops and stops]

lolno

what if he settles for less than max?

the Clippers' salary will be at $49,747,045 for the 2012-13 season, which leaves $8,296,955 in cap space, right?

is the max for a player with less than 6 years $9 million or $14 million?

[KBryant24]

He would fit perfectly in the current Wolves.
This!!!!
I hope this happens
Rubio-Gordon-williams-Love-drummond

yeah buddy !!!

[04mzwach]

Wolves will pick him up...

[InspiredLebowski]

what if he settles for less than max?

the Clippers' salary will be at $49,747,045 for the 2012-13 season, which leaves $8,296,955 in cap space, right?

is the max for a player with less than 6 years $9 million or $14 million?If he'd take 8.3 an extension'd be done. And the Hornets would pretty obviously match it even if something crazy did happen and he signs and offer sheet that low. Either way, the Clippers are only at ~50 if Mo Williams doesn't pick up his 8.5 mil option. Which he will.

[Fiasco]

I want to see him in Boston.

[jamal99]

This!!!!
I hope this happens
Rubio-Gordon-williams-Love-drummond

yeah buddy !!!
Drummond? :lol
Their pick won't be top 3.


And Hornets have their pick :oldlol:

[livingby3's]

how about EJ in a suns uniform. gordon n gortat :rockon:

[KBryant24]

And Hornets have their pick :oldlol:
damn thats right i forgot

[b0bab0i]

He's a RFA, New Orleans can still match whatever offer is thrown at him right?

[JohnRuck]

1. the Hornets will offer him the same amount in the summer.
2. Gordon agent goes out and see if they can land a contract worth more than the offer and signs.
3. If they can't Hornets win big, but if Gordon finds the contract he's looking for, hornets match.

Hornets can still match any offer to Gordon in the offseason. Just means they won't get a discount. The hornets should not have offered a max deal today (let alone a 5 year one). let the summer market dictate the max and match if necessary. All that new orleans lost today was a chance at a discount gordon for the next four years.

[InspiredLebowski]

1. the Hornets will offer him the same amount in the summer.
2. Gordon agent goes out and see if they can land a contract worth more than the offer and signs.
3. If they can't Hornets win big, but if Gordon finds the contract he's looking for, hornets match.

Hornets can still match any offer to Gordon in the offseason. Just means they won't get a discount. The hornets should not have offered a max deal today (let alone a 5 year one). let the summer market dictate the max and match if necessary. All that new orleans lost today was a chance at a discount gordon for the next four years.Hold on, so the Hornets (read: Stern) offered the max and Gordon and his people said no? Or you're just speaking in the hypothetical?

[JohnRuck]

Hornets offered 4 yrs a little over 50mil. EJ wanted what he THINKS he could get later 4 yrs/58mil

He was lowballed, but honestly, what good is it to get him signed now when you can do the same deal later and know more about the knee, the team, more trades, THEIR PICKS, etc.?

[InspiredLebowski]

Hornets offered 4 yrs a little over 50mil. EJ wanted what he THINKS he could get later 4 yrs/58mil

He was lowballed, but honestly, what good is it to get him signed now when you can do the same deal later and know more about the knee, the team, more trades, THEIR PICKS, etc.?I certainly agree with that. The Hornets didn't lose any leverage today.

[LosBulls]

So the Hornets traded Chris Paul for Aminu, Kaman, and a first round pick? :wtf:
And cap relief i guess :confusedshrug:

[LosBulls]

Bulls dump Boozer somewhere and get us Eric Gordon. Pretty please?

Rose,Gordon,Deng,Taj, and Noah with Watson and Rip Hamilton off the bench.

[JohnRuck]

people, GORDON IS STAYING IN NEW ORLEANS, read my previous posts please

[InspiredLebowski]

people, GORDON IS STAYING IN NEW ORLEANS, read my previous posts pleasehey, you got a source on the #s of the proposed contract?

[JohnRuck]

hey, you got a source on the #s of the proposed contract?

https://twitter.com/#!/hornets247/status/162397961278603265

[Kiddlovesnets]

It would be funny if the Nets pick him up in the end, man I am so hopeless for a Nets big three scenario(Dwight-Gordon-Deron). I know its impossible, but hey fans have rights to dream dont they?
:lol

[InspiredLebowski]

hornets247.com
I was told offer was for 4 years, slightly over 50 mil. Gordon wanted AT LEAST what other teams can offer him in summer- 4 yr/58 milthanks. wasn't calling you a liar or anything, just well, y'know :oldlol:.

[JohnRuck]

all good bro, i edited the post and added the link for ya. +1

[InspiredLebowski]

It's also alleged Indy's owner doesn't think it's "right" to chase RFAs. Driving up the cost on fellow small market owners and such. I honestly can't remember the Pacers ever offering an RFA, of course, they also haven't had cap space since...well since I knew what a salary cap was, until this past season.

And of course, talk is cheap. I really do think the whole "Indy'll pull out all the stops to get EJ" stuff is more media fluff than reality though.

[DuMa]

clippers want him back

[All Net]

Must be basketball reasons...

[JohnRuck]

Must be basketball reasons...
yes, i'm sure the reason has to do with basketball....

[ballerz]

I could see the celtics trying to sign him in the off season

[JohnRuck]

I could see the celtics trying to sign him in the off season
wouldnt be possible

[lilojmayo]

i hate the nba. so glad i only follow two teams ( grizz and knicks)

why the hell didn't the Chris Paul deal go through. it was a way better deal then the deal that went through. and their 3-18 record shows it

Chris Paul should be a Laker right now helping Kobe catch MJ's 6 rings

[LJJ]

They offered him 50/4? That is a generous offer. I doubt he'll get more in the summer, especially since he might not have a career year.

[Jon_Koncak]

That was a reasonable offer.Dude is injured half the time,no way he deserves the max.

[hawkfan]

They offered him 50/4? That is a generous offer. I doubt he'll get more in the summer, especially since he might not have a career year.

Really, he doesn't even deserve this.

But he is a restricted free agent, so the Hornets can match. Doubt any sane team will offer more than this.

[insidehoops]

Here's the AP on this issue, this morning:

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=9141

[jbryan1984]

Or........ Maybe EG wants to play with Kyrie? Yeahhhhhh. Jamison comes off the books. Sign EG, draft Barnes and we got a future core of Irving/Gordon/Barnes/Thompson/Varejao. Nice.

[chairman]

Or........ Maybe EG wants to play with Kyrie? Yeahhhhhh. Jamison comes off the books. Sign EG, draft Barnes and we got a future core of Irving/Gordon/Barnes/Thompson/Varejao. Nice.
No one wants to play for the cavs. :rolleyes:

[FireDavidKahn]

I can't think of a better basketball fit than him coming to Minnesota.

Oh god if Kahn can pull that off all would be forgiven and I would change my username:bowdown:

[Darius]

Allegedly this is part of the reason the Clippers traded him.

He wanted max money and they didn't think he was worth max.

At the end of the day you can only afford 2 max players under new CBA and they decided they'd rather have a maxed Paul than maxed Gordon.

[FireDavidKahn]

Allegedly this is part of the reason the Clippers traded him.

He wanted max money and they didn't think he was worth max.

At the end of the day you can only afford 2 max players under new CBA and they decided they'd rather have a maxed Paul than maxed Gordon.
No, the reason they traded him is because of Chris Paul.

[Poodle]

Hornets offered 4 yrs a little over 50mil. EJ wanted what he THINKS he could get later 4 yrs/58mil

He was lowballed, but honestly, what good is it to get him signed now when you can do the same deal later and know more about the knee, the team, more trades, THEIR PICKS, etc.?


he wasn't low balled at 12mill/year that is crazy, and if anything the Hornets will way overpay for someone who is very unproven especially if someone else offers more and they match. he was stellar for like a month or two with the Clippers when they were all hurt where he got all of the shots and played at a all star level but that is far from proven franchise player money. add in the injury prone'ness, him being a guard, and 12mill/year is already too much....

i'd be willing to bet he doesn't end up being worth that contract. whether its inconsistency in being able to carry them, or being constantly hurt.

[Whoah10115]

What does Indiana's cap space look like? I've always heard that EJ always wanted to return there.



They got a good amount of cap space, even with David West and Danny Granger. They have about $18million, with the need to re-sign Hibbert (must) and Hill (must, I think).



Danny Granger is not gonna be there tho. For how long, especially with him having grown to 6'10, can Paul George play the 2? That's crazy.



3team trade time. I keep thinking about Granger, Gay, Gordon...Gordon is gonna end up back in Indiana, I think.


Maybe Gasol, lol...that would work, tho that's actually a completely different trade.

[ballerz]

wouldnt be possible
And why's that?

[SpecialQue]

He will never, ever be a Clipper again. They already guaranteed that when they promised him that he was not included in any deal for Chris Paul, and then up and traded him anyway. Was pissed about that and was even quoted on it.

That said, his issues with injuries leads me to believe that he'll wind up in Portland.

[FireDavidKahn]

i hate the nba. so glad i only follow two teams ( grizz and knicks)

why the hell didn't the Chris Paul deal go through. it was a way better deal then the deal that went through. and their 3-18 record shows it

Chris Paul should be a Laker right now helping Kobe catch MJ's 6 rings
It would not have been a better deal. The NBA is trying to sell the Hornets and it would be a lot harder to do that with a lot more guaranteed salary. The Hornets got youth and draft picks, much better than old players on large contracts. You need to look further than this season.

[longtime lurker]

It would not have been a better deal. The NBA is trying to sell the Hornets and it would be a lot harder to do that with a lot more guaranteed salary. The Hornets got youth and draft picks, much better than old players on large contracts. You need to look further than this season.

So it's easier to sell the Hornets with a 3-18 roster? The problem is that Stern doesn't want to relocate the Hornets out of New Orleans. Keeping that team in New Orleans is a horrible investment.

[FireDavidKahn]

So it's easier to sell the Hornets with a 3-18 roster? The problem is that Stern doesn't want to relocate the Hornets out of New Orleans. Keeping that team in New Orleans is a horrible investment.
Yes it is. Potential owners don't care about the Win/Loss of the current team. Everything in business is about $$$ and the ability to create your vision of a team. Cap flexibility + young good players + draft picks are infinitely better than old players on large contracts who might not even make you a play off team.

[Sarcastic]

CP3, EJ, Butler, Griffin, and DJ would be a dream come true :banana:

Sterling is too cheap to go pay Gordon any money :oldlol:

[JohnRuck]

And why's that?

1. the Hornets will offer him the same amount in the summer.
2. Gordon agent goes out and see if they can land a contract worth more than the offer and signs.
3. If they can't Hornets win big, but if Gordon finds the contract he's looking for, hornets match.

Hornets can still match any offer to Gordon in the offseason. Just means they won't get a discount.

[JohnRuck]

So it's easier to sell the Hornets with a 3-18 roster? The problem is that Stern doesn't want to relocate the Hornets out of New Orleans. Keeping that team in New Orleans is a horrible investment.

explanation?

[Kblaze8855]

The NBA is trying to sell the Hornets and it would be a lot harder to do that with a lot more guaranteed salary. The Hornets got youth and draft picks, much better than old players on large contracts.

The Hornets with the Lakers deal would baaaaaarely reach the salary FLOOR next year. And that would be with Kmarts 12 million expiring deal. Lets not act like cap space is actually an issue.

And its never hard to sell an nba team. The founder of oracle said he bid 350 million. More than the NBA bought them for.....

Its not an issue of finding buyers. People bid for NBA teams and the NBA decides who to allow in based on a lot of issues. In this case...the desire to keep the team in NO is the major one. Larry Ellison was rumored to move them to San Jose.

The NBA having trouble selling a team is just straight fiction. Put an NBA team up for sale people come to you. But a desire to buy it and the money arent the only factors.

Its no doubt true the NBA wants to build up the fanbase so ticket sales and support look better so a new owner might keep them where they are. But really...they wouldnt go for Chris Paul on a playoff team.

Eric Gordon is not half the attraction he was.