Jeremy Lin plays his best game ever, 25 points vs Nets in MSG

[fubu05]

You do realize we're talking about Jeremy Lin.

As a point guard, when it comes to vision and running a PnR he is better than Douglas and Shumpert. Shumpert is of course much better defensively, but he is clueless when it comes to being a PG.

[GOBB]

It wasnt mods. I asked RMWG if he could merge the Scola threads and he said no. I think it was Jeff

[airchibundo507]

no one is expecting him to put up 25/7 every night. 11/6 would be solid production over anything any of our PGs our currently putting up. Lin actually penetrates and gets the offense going. he creates easier looks for our big men.

it's better than douglas and shumpert turning the ball over and/or bricking outside shots. bibby without a 3pt jumpshot doesn't even belong in the league anymore.

[AMISTILLILL]

what exactly are you trying to put across?

Lin can't help our team because he's been a d-leaguer most of his young career. I don't care if he's an NBA caliber player, he is the best PG on our roster. your thread fails. sorry.

...my thread? This isn't even my thread. :facepalm

My initial post was pointing out how blown out of proportion this kids game last night was. It said nothing about him not being able to help your garbage team. Keep jumping to conclusions.

You know that old expression about throwing stones and glass houses? Get into it. Also, look into reading comprehension.

[airchibundo507]

...my thread? This isn't even my thread. :facepalm

My initial post was pointing out how blown out of proportion this kids game last night was. It said nothing about him not being able to help your garbage team. Keep jumping to conclusions.

You know that old expression about throwing stones and glass houses? Get into it. Also, look into reading comprehension.

well, I am certainly not propping him up to be a star. neither is fubu. if he can put up 11/6 and create good looks for other players he will upgrade our backcourt and help us to be competitive. sorry for misunderstanding you.

[fubu05]

No one is saying Lin is the best player. No one is saying he's going to change the franchise. But when it comes to being a PG, and the Knicks' desperate need for one, Lin is currently the best guard for that role. Shumpert is a better defender, but when it comes to running a pick-n-roll and just running an offense in general he is disgustingly bad. Douglas is in the worst shooting rut ever. He can't hit anything. Right now, Lin is just the best player as a PG to help the offense get rolling.

[Eric Cartman]

People are saying "It's against the Nets" "It was against a unmotivated Deron Williams" when the reality of the situation is that Williams has been playing amazing & Lin flat out kill him. Reminds me of that Tayshuan Prince breakthrough in the playoffs against God knows who (maybe Indiana). He had his coming out (cumin out whatever) & has been a solid player ever since. League needs to take notice.

[AMISTILLILL]

It blows my mind how quick some of you Knicks fans are to flip-flop opinions on ordinarily highly regarded players. Landry Fields was a fan favorite until his mediocre post-season performance, so now he's an afterthought. Many Knicks fans on this board were singing Shumpert's praises before game 1 of the season had even tipped off, boasting that he'd be starting at the 1 by mid-season. Now he's a turn-over prone liability on the offensive end?

It's this fickle, fairweather approach to 'fanhood' that makes a good percentage of the New York fan base the laughing stock that it is... and this isn't even including booing your team on their home court.

[Marv_Albert]

It blows my mind how quick some of you Knicks fans are to flip-flop opinions on ordinarily highly regarded players. Landry Fields was a fan favorite until his mediocre post-season performance, so now he's an afterthought. Many Knicks fans on this board were singing Shumpert's praises before game 1 of the season had even tipped off, boasting that he'd be starting at the 1 by mid-season. Now he's a turn-over prone liability on the offensive end?

It's this fickle, fairweather approach to 'fanhood' that makes a good percentage of the New York fan base the laughing stock that it is... and this isn't even including booing your team on their home court.

This.

[Scoooter]

He realizes that there's a roll man in the pick and roll. That alone makes him orders of magnitude more competent a point guard than Douglas and Shumpert. John Lucas faded into irrelevancy because the Bulls have Derrick Rose. The Knicks have nobody.

Lin just has to make smart, basic plays to be effective for the Knicks.

[airchibundo507]

It blows my mind how quick some of you Knicks fans are to flip-flop opinions on ordinarily highly regarded players. Landry Fields was a fan favorite until his mediocre post-season performance, so now he's an afterthought. Many Knicks fans on this board were singing Shumpert's praises before game 1 of the season had even tipped off, boasting that he'd be starting at the 1 by mid-season. Now he's a turn-over prone liability on the offensive end?

It's this fickle, fairweather approach to 'fanhood' that makes a good percentage of the New York fan base the laughing stock that it is... and this isn't even including booing your team on their home court.

Fields had a slump lasting MONTHS. he woke up like three weeks ago and has been playing at a VERY high level for a role player. I'm talking 15/4/4/2 + 55% FG. He was drafted as a second rounder. He played like a ROTY candidate first half of last season. Melo was traded and the team lost a lot of its ball movmeent and Fields subsequently struggled. Most of us thought he'd never regain his high level of play and that he had reverted back to the second rounder he was drafted at. Yet look how he has played CONSISTENTLY the last three weeks. His 3pointer is even starting to fall, too (excluding crunchtime versus the Celtics). He is still a damn Knick favorite.

Shumpert is a project. He was NBA ready for the defensive end. On offense, he was always considered very raw. For starters, he is a combo guard LACKING point guard skills and LACKING a consistent jumpshot. We experimented with him at PG and it flat out didn't work. We threw him into the lion's pit without a training camp. Hell, he even injured himself the first game of the season and had to miss a significant amount of time. He's not a PG. He's probably a better passing Tony Allen type player. He is still a Knick favorite, just not as a PG.

what's wrong with Knicks praising players that deserve praise? and singling out those that play like sh*t?

[airchibundo507]

People are saying "It's against the Nets" "It was against a unmotivated Deron Williams" when the reality of the situation is that Williams has been playing amazing & Lin flat out kill him. Reminds me of that Tayshuan Prince breakthrough in the playoffs against God knows who (maybe Indiana). He had his coming out (cumin out whatever) & has been a solid player ever since. League needs to take notice.

yeah, people say it's just the Nets...

then why can't Shumpert drop 25/7? Douglas? Bibby?

[AMISTILLILL]

Fields had a slump lasting MONTHS. he woke up like three weeks ago and has been playing at a VERY high level for a role player. I'm talking 15/4/4/2 + 55% FG. He was drafted as a second rounder. He played like a ROTY candidate first half of last season. Melo was traded and the team lost a lot of its ball movmeent and Fields subsequently struggled. Most of us thought he'd never regain his high level of play and that he had reverted back to the second rounder he was drafted at. Yet look how he has played CONSISTENTLY the last three weeks. His 3pointer is even starting to fall, too (excluding crunchtime versus the Celtics). He is still a damn Knick favorite.

Shumpert is a project. He was NBA ready for the defensive end. On offense, he was always considered very raw. For starters, he is a combo guard LACKING point guard skills and LACKING a consistent jumpshot. We experimented with him at PG and it flat out didn't work. We threw him into the lion's pit without a training camp. Hell, he even injured himself the first game of the season and had to miss a significant amount of time. He's not a PG. He's probably a better passing Tony Allen type player. He is still a Knick favorite, just not as a PG.

what's wrong with Knicks praising players that deserve praise? and singling out those that play like sh*t?

Nothing you said about Shumpert reflects even a fraction of the bloviating done by Knicks fans on ISH in the off-season and during the first few weeks of the season. Literally none of it.

[airchibundo507]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=247049

really? please find it for me.

the only things Shumpert was lauded for coming into the season were his DEFENSE and athleticism. We acknowledged that he was a project on the offensive end.

[fubu05]

Nothing you said about Shumpert reflects even a fraction of the bloviating done by Knicks fans on ISH in the off-season and during the first few weeks of the season. Literally none of it.

We get excited when our rookies play well. So what. Can you blame us? He was a 17th pick and was performing well. It wasn't just Knicks fans by the way, he was in the top 10 of many rookie ranking in the first few weeks. Now hes slumped a bit. Knicks fans have actually been screaming for Lin since the first minutes he got in garbage time in Detroit. And then once again looked good in the 1st half of the Boston game and were screaming for him to get time over Douglas again. :confusedshrug:

[redhonda76]

Lin is not althletically gifted like the other Knicks pg but there is no question he has a better court vision and higher IQ than them. Until the Knicks can get a better pg, let's see what he can do.

[DGARAS]

lol

speaking as the only realistic knick fan in this world, i've seen these types of games from ALL of our players going back to the early 2000s.

remember how frank williams also showed flashes? yeah........ :lol

i was naive then, but not anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlMnE_HCLOY



let me break down lin's game as i have seen him play before for gsw.

he can't shoot at all. he can't really run the offense unless he plays against a dumb team. he's good for energy off the bench once in a while. been in the league enough time to develop his game but has not.

[AMISTILLILL]

lol

speaking as the only realistic knick fan in this world, i've seen these types of games from ALL of our players going back to the early 2000s.

remember how frank williams also showed flashes? yeah........ :lol

This. It's a never ending cycle.

[fubu05]

lol

speaking as the only realistic knick fan in this world, i've seen these types of games from ALL of our players going back to the early 2000s.

remember how frank williams also showed flashes? yeah........ :lol

i was naive then, but not anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlMnE_HCLOY

You serious... his career high was 18... he never had as good a game as Jeremy had last night in the garden, he never took over a game and kept the Knicks in it and eventually won a game the way Jeremy did :facepalm

[AMISTILLILL]

You Knicks fans never cease to bring the giggles.

[Scoooter]

All he has to do is be slightly less retarded than Toney Douglas.

[cteach111]

Douglas just runs around the court and chucks up a shot. Bibby is too old at this point.

If Lin can just make some plays and do some basic playmaking, then that's something the Knicks could use.

Obviously, you don't bank on it happening, but just play the dude and see what happens.

[ImmortalNemesis]

Please stop overrating this scrub. He's not Scalabrine.

[fubu05]

Douglas just runs around the court and chucks up a shot. Bibby is too old at this point.

If Lin can just make some plays and do some basic playmaking, then that's something the Knicks could use.

Obviously, you don't bank on it happening, but just play the dude and see what happens.

:cheers:

This. Pretty much. Knicks fans aren't expecting 25 points a game from Lin. If all we get is 8 points, that's good enough. Just need someone to dish out 7 assists. Penetrate, and help Amar'e on the pick-n-roll.

[statman32]

let me break down lin's game as i have seen him play before for gsw.

he can't shoot at all. he can't really run the offense unless he plays against a dumb team. he's good for energy off the bench once in a while. been in the league enough time to develop his game but has not.
So less than 2 years and 39 games with limited minutes is long enough for somebody to develop now? People are growing way too impatient these days.

I don't think anyone here is claiming the guy is going to be a stud. No one is claiming he is going to led the Knicks to a ring. What they are hoping for, and what is realistic considering his skillset, is a point guard who can distribute the ball while not making too many mistakes. Keep in mind most people are only hoping he can be short-term help while Baron gets 100%.

You say you've watched him but hes only had limited minutes, with limited talent around him in blow-outs. He played in a crappy conference in college but he did put up the following:

30/9/3/3stl/4to/11-18fg against UConn
25/3/4/2to/7-10fg against Boston College
15/3/4/3stl/6to/6-10fg against Georgetown
27/3/8/6stl/2to/11-16fg against Boston College

in his junior and senior years with limited talent around him.

Keep in mind, Dantoni's system rewards point guards with even a little court vision. Chris Duhon who is a comparable talent, put up 11/3/7 as a starter for Dantoni. Why is it that hard to believe that Lin could put up those stats in the same amount of time?

[fubu05]

So less than 2 years and 39 games with limited minutes is long enough for somebody to develop now? People are growing way too impatient these days.

I don't think anyone here is claiming the guy is going to be a stud. No one is claiming he is going to led the Knicks to a ring. What they are hoping for, and what is realistic considering his skillset, is a point guard who can distribute the ball while not making too many mistakes. Keep in mind most people are only hoping he can be short-term help while Baron gets 100%.

You say you've watched him but hes only had limited minutes, with limited talent around him in blow-outs. He played in a crappy conference in college but he did put up the following:

30/9/3/3stl/4to/11-18fg against UConn
25/3/4/2to/7-10fg against Boston College
15/3/4/3stl/6to/6-10fg against Georgetown
27/3/8/6stl/2to/11-16fg against Boston College

in his junior and senior years with limited talent around him.

Keep in mind, Dantoni's system rewards point guards with even a little court vision. Chris Duhon who is a comparable talent, put up 11/3/7 as a starter for Dantoni. Why is it that hard to believe that Lin could put up those stats in the same amount of time?

It really isn't. All Knicks want out of this kid is 6, 7 assists a game. We don't care if he gets 8 points, because we have scoring with Melo and STAT, we just need someone to make it easier for them and get them involved in the game. Long as this kid can run a pick-n-roll, throw a couple lobs to Chandler/STAT during the game, find the open man at the 3pt line, he is already leaps and bounds ahead of Shumpert/Douglas in terms of being a point guard.

[ImmortalNemesis]

This scrub isn't really worth 200+ replies.

Things are that bad for New York huh?

[IBLEEDGREEN20]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

good win vs the nets

:roll: :roll:

[bagelred]

This scrub isn't really worth 200+ replies.

Things are that bad for New York huh?

It was........it was.

[Jameerthefear]

I saw the hihlihts. I can see why Knicks fans are excited. His demeanor reminds me of tim

[MJ(Mean John)]

The new nash!!!:bowdown:

[Meticode]

The new nash!!!:bowdown:
Asian version!

[roffie]

I hope yellow mamba starts in the knicks next game, lets see if he can play this well again

[greymatter]

I saw the hihlihts. I can see why Knicks fans are excited. His demeanor reminds me of tim

He's a Harvard kid from a middle/upper middle class family whose father has a PhD in computer engineering. Shouldn't be surprising that his demeanor is like TD's.

In any case, I'd like to see how well his real IQ can translate over to bball IQ if he's given a chance to develop.

[greymatter]

lol

speaking as the only realistic knick fan in this world, i've seen these types of games from ALL of our players going back to the early 2000s.

remember how frank williams also showed flashes? yeah........ :lol

i was naive then, but not anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlMnE_HCLOY



let me break down lin's game as i have seen him play before for gsw.

he can't shoot at all. he can't really run the offense unless he plays against a dumb team. he's good for energy off the bench once in a while. been in the league enough time to develop his game but has not.

A pity. Would have been nice to see someone fill the void Yao left with his retirement. Yi Jianlian is officially a bust now.

[wang4three]

lol

speaking as the only realistic knick fan in this world, i've seen these types of games from ALL of our players going back to the early 2000s.

remember how frank williams also showed flashes? yeah........ :lol

i was naive then, but not anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlMnE_HCLOY



let me break down lin's game as i have seen him play before for gsw.

he can't shoot at all. he can't really run the offense unless he plays against a dumb team. he's good for energy off the bench once in a while. been in the league enough time to develop his game but has not.

Frank Williams is the COMPLETE inverse of what Jeremy is. Frank always had skill, athleticism, and size to do what he wanted. He had enough talent to be a regular player in the NBA.

However, Frank's problem was his immaturity and poor attitude. He never got to where he could've been because of it.

On the flip side, Jeremy doesn't have Frank's size, strength, or athleticism. He doesn't have Frank's offensive talents nor his handles. But he does have a good head on his shoulder and is very focused and determined.

If you want to be cautious because after all Jeremy is still a relatively unproven undrafted player, sure. But based on the terrible comparison to Frank Williams? Stupid. I'm an Illini fan and love Frank to a certain degree, but come on now

[SacJB Shady]

Just watched the highlights. Lin looks good. He is pretty quick. He was blowin past D Williams and held D Will in check. Some beautiful alley oops and reverse lay ups of his own. Very nice.

[Lebron23]

He averaged a triple double in his first and only game in the NBDL.

[Clutch]

He averaged a triple double in his first and only game in the NBDL.
GOAT in D-League history. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[All Net]

All eyes will be on him tonight....

[Clutch]

All eyes will be on him tonight....
I just hope the Garden crowd will support him even if he doesn't have the best game.

[All Net]

I just hope the Garden crowd will support him even if he doesn't have the best game.

The pressure on him is too high, feel bad for he guy.

[niko]

I just hope the Garden crowd will support him even if he doesn't have the best game.
he's a folk hero, that wouldn't worry me. Plus he's asian, NBA crowds like asian players (becaues there are so few). In NYC, with out chinese population, unless he is terrible he's going to be very popular.

[xfactor99]

Speaking as a Warriors fan I don't think I've ever seen Lin drive to his left. If you watch the highlights of the Nets game he drove to the right for every single one of his layups. Now most teams don't play as horrendous help defense as the Nets so unless Lin can start driving in the other direction too he'll be screwed. Also he has no outside shot. Sooooo.....

[roffie]

didn't Lin dominate in D-league? he was dropping 30 6 7 or something

[BruceLeeBowen]

Fa Kin Su pah!

[skan72]

Fa Kin Su pah!

:roll:

[Dwyane Rose]

Jeremy Lin D-League Stats:

28 points (53% FG)
11 rebounds
12 assists
2 steals
1 block
91 FT%

:bowdown: We are not worthy. :bowdown:

[BarberSchool]

Jeremy Lin is nguyening!!Excellence. :applause: :bowdown:

[BarberSchool]

Fa Kin Su pah!Please don't stop, people.

[DuMa]

:bowdown:

http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/gif/044159e6e0b6bbae9a223ead74efee75883a7b7.gif

[swi7ch]

didn't Lin dominate in D-league? he was dropping 30 6 7 or something

He was so good in the D-League they made him go back to the NBA after only ONE game! :bowdown:

[bagelred]

All this Jeremy Lin talk has put me in the mood for Chinese Food. Seriously......gonna get me some Pineapple Chicken. :D

With EXTRA MSG.

[bagelred]

Oh






My







God

[Heavincent]

Jeremy Lin...
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[leopoldstotch]

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[bail]

J-lin should be an all star!!!

[Knicks101]

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[DGARAS]

Frank Williams is the COMPLETE inverse of what Jeremy is. Frank always had skill, athleticism, and size to do what he wanted. He had enough talent to be a regular player in the NBA.

However, Frank's problem was his immaturity and poor attitude. He never got to where he could've been because of it.

On the flip side, Jeremy doesn't have Frank's size, strength, or athleticism. He doesn't have Frank's offensive talents nor his handles. But he does have a good head on his shoulder and is very focused and determined.

If you want to be cautious because after all Jeremy is still a relatively unproven undrafted player, sure. But based on the terrible comparison to Frank Williams? Stupid. I'm an Illini fan and love Frank to a certain degree, but come on now

not comparing them as players. just saying that even frank williams had his games along with steve francis, mutombo, keith van horn, etc.

[Beebo]

http://i.imgur.com/RmUyc.gif

[bagelred]

Isiah just gave Lin a 5 year, $60 million contract.:bowdown:

[All Net]

The hype is freaking nuts:lol

[Clutch]

Isiah just gave Lin a 5 year, $60 million contract.:bowdown:
:lol