Lets stop overrating the Bulls, they are built for the regular season

[eliteballer]

No post scoring

no reliable second option to make plays in crunchtime during the playoffs. What, you gonna tell me you're going to be comfortable with Luol Deng making plays if Rose is shut down?:oldlol:

Noah isn't a factor on offense, Boozer folds against other stars in the playoffs.

minimal outside shooting.

Its Rose surrounded by a bunch of above average players who's games are built for the regular season, not the playoffs. Reminds me of LeBron's cavs, only those teams did have post scoring and outside shooting.

There's half a dozen other teams that are fully capable of beating them in a playoff series(Miami, Boston, OKC, Lakers, Dallas, Clips, and probably a few others who matchup well enough that they'd have more than a fighting chance(Indiana, Atlanta when they get back Horford and Memphis when they get back Randolph, Orlando)

[TheAesirsFinest]

Expect this thread to be bumped in the post-season.

[Derka]

This will go well for you. I promise.

[eliteballer]

Why, got nothing to back yourself up now:oldlol:

[PJR]

They are the most overrated team since LeBron's Cavs.

[PJR]

Expect this thread to be bumped in the post-season.

Lol they ain't beating Miami, so this will not be bumped.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Luol Deng is absolutely the second option on the team. He's having an all-star season this season.

Noah has started to improve again and play like the regular Noah everyone expects out of him. Boozer is still kind of frustrating to watch but for the most part he's been playing way better than last season.

Bulls have Rose, Deng, Brewer, Korver, Hamilton and even CJ Watson when it comes to scoring. Yes, I would like to see the Bulls add one more guard/small forward who can score like JR Smith or Wilson Chandler.

This team is way better than last season and last season they went to the conference finals. So how is this team not built for the playoffs? :facepalm

[ConanRulesNBC]

Lol they ain't beating Miami, so this will not be bumped.

This Miami team isn't all that great. You want to talk about overrated?

[Tenchi Ryu]

Was a interesting read, would read again

[PJR]

Lol it's the same team from last year + old, injured Rip Hamilton.

[Droid101]

Teams that are built for the regular season that tend to fail in the playoffs: teams that go "10 deep" and play ALL their players around 22-30 minutes per game. Teams like the Hubie Brown/Gasol Grizzlies, last year's post-Melo Nuggets, or the Spurs from last year and this year.

Having those deep benches helps you get regular season wins. Having superstars who will be playing all 48 minutes in an important playoff games wins... well, playoff games. The Bulls are fine. The Nuggets, Spurs, Pacers, Hawks, and Sixers... well, we'll see!

[Reverend Hoops]

If Hinrich was healthy Hawks had a good chance of beating them.

[Clocian-IGN]

*dead* at the best defensive team in the league only built for regular season. but lets be reality, we gonna act like the lakers are going anywhere? :oldlol:

[ConanRulesNBC]

Lol it's the same team from last year + old, injured Rip Hamilton.

Also with more depth with John Lucas III and Jimmy Butler. As well as Rose, Deng, Boozer, Asik and Brewer all playing way better than last season.

[PJR]

This Miami team isn't all that great. You want to talk about overrated?

They will beat Chicago and everyone else in the East tho...But you can continue to delude yourself thinking otherwise..

[Reverend Hoops]

Also with more depth with John Lucas III and Jimmy Butler. As well as Rose, Deng, Boozer, Asik and Brewer all playing way better than last season.


:roll:

Like those guys will play in the playoffs.

[SilkkTheShocker]

I think Miami sweeps them in the playoffs. If Chicago makes it that far.

[MMM]

The bulls chances in the post season live and die on Rose, it is as simple as that. Rose last season had to carry a heavy load last season due to all the injuries but this season he has been getting more help. So, this season the Bulls are likely to have a fresher Rose if they can get deep in the playoffs and that can be a huge factor in their success come the post season.

[jrong]

This Miami team isn't all that great. You want to talk about overrated?

I thought that the thread title was a mistake, and the OP meant to say the Heat. Of all the teams that fit the description, Miami is probably the most overrated of all.


The bulls chances in the post season live and die on Rose, it is as simple as that. Rose last season had to carry a heavy load last season due to all the injuries but this season he has been getting more help. So, this season the Bulls are likely to have a fresher Rose if they can get deep in the playoffs and that can be a huge factor in their success come the post season.

That's not how they'll make the Finals. If it becomes a star competition, Miami wins.

On the other hand, if Chicago comes with depth, defense, energy, interior strength with Noah and Boozer, Rip's midrange game, Deng's versatility, and then Rose to make winning plays when it counts, we very well may have a CHI/OKC Finals.

[ConanRulesNBC]

They will beat Chicago and everyone else in the East tho...But you can continue to delude yourself thinking otherwise..

The same Miami team that has lost to the Bucks twice, the Atlanta Hawks, got destroyed by the Magic last night, barely beat a Bulls team with an injured Rose and without Luol Deng. :oldlol:

[All Net]

Bulls are a better team than they were last season but it does remain to be seen how much the offense has improved until come playoff time. They lost in 5 to Miami and a big reason for that was not enough offense...if Rip can give them that consistant 10-15 points per game in the playoffs they will be in good shape. But they will need that production to get past Miami.

Boozer has to play Bosh even at least....if Bosh owns Boozer again Miami will be in the finals again.

[bdreason]

Nobody out East is beating them but the Heat. I don't see how you can 'overrate' that fact.

[Reverend Hoops]

Boozer has to play Bosh even at least....if Bosh owns Boozer again Miami will be in the finals again.

With D-Rose as his PG... Bosh will.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Nobody out East is beating them but the Heat. I don't see how you can 'overrate' that fact.

Really? :facepalm

[Clocian-IGN]

it's hilarious people predicting our future loss based on last years team starting keith "da god" bogans and an injured front court that loss in a close series with the heat despite the 1-4.

[LakersReign]

Rose beats all season, wins MVP, gets to the conference Finals, has a bad series vs Lebron and he sucks.

Lebron goes to Miami, talking all kinds of trash, goes to the Finals, has a bad Finals and it's let's not talk about that and remember his past Finals and playoff performances


Hilarious:roll:

[Bigsmoke]

Deng > most other 2nd options in the NBA.

hell... dude would be a go to guy for some other teams "Sixers, Bucks, Hornets, Kings, Pistons,ect"

[All Net]

The same Miami team that has lost to the Bucks twice, the Atlanta Hawks, got destroyed by the Magic last night, barely beat a Bulls team with an injured Rose and without Luol Deng. :oldlol:

Using regular season match-ups is not exactly helping the arguement of this thread...

[bdreason]

Really? :facepalm


Who beats the Bulls in a 7 game series out East besides the Heat? And how much money do you want to bet?

[ConanRulesNBC]

If anyone deserves to be called overrated it's LeBron James. He still hasn't one a single title despite making it to the NBA finals twice and being on a team with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Using regular season match-ups is not exactly helping the arguement of this thread...

But using last seasons playoff match-ups is? :confusedshrug:

[Reverend Hoops]

Nobody out East is beating them but the Heat. I don't see how you can 'overrate' that fact.

Hawks took them to 6 last year without Rose's teacher Kirk Hinrich. T-Mac, Kirk Hinrich, Willie Green and Ivan Johnson give them a much deeper bench than last year (All they had was Crawford)

[ConanRulesNBC]

Hawks took them to 6 last year without Rose's teacher Kirk Hinrich. T-Mac, Kirk Hinrich, Willie Green and Ivan Johnson give them a much deeper bench than last year (All they had was Crawford)

This whole post is :roll:

[nathanjizzle]

is this thread even real.

[bdreason]

Hawks took them to 6 last year without Rose's teacher Kirk Hinrich. T-Mac, Kirk Hinrich, Willie Green and Ivan Johnson give them a much deeper bench than last year (All they had was Crawford)


I'll bet my condo the Bulls beat a Horford-less Hawks in a 7 game series.

[All Net]

But using last seasons playoff match-ups is? :confusedshrug:

Thats all you can go on for now, regular season head to heads meant very little in the playoffs.

I personally think Bulls stand a far better chance at getting past Miami and winning it all than last year. They seem more confident and deeper than last year but Rip MUST give them very good production at the SG spot and Boozer must play Bosh even otherwise it will be the same result as last year.

[jrong]

Nobody out East is beating them but the Heat. I don't see how you can 'overrate' that fact.

Don't sleep on the Celtics or Knicks. If Boston is healthy, they will be an extremely tough out. And if NY's "stars" can find a way to integrate with the players that have actually been winning games for them, the Knicks could be nasty. For that matter, a team like the Magic could get hot like they did last night and shoot the Bulls (or the Heat) right out of the playoffs. Even the Sixers could trouble the Bulls (but not the Heat, in this case) because they basically kind of are the Bulls minus Rose. So if Rose struggled or the Sixers swarmed him and everybodyelse struggled, then that could be a very difficult series.

[Reverend Hoops]

This whole post is :roll:

The fact that Bulls fan think the Hawks have a 0% chance at defeating the Bulls is foolish. Not to mention that Teague has greatly improved this year. Kirk knows ALL of Rose's "tricks".

[Bigsmoke]

Hawks took them to 6 last year without Rose's teacher Kirk Hinrich. T-Mac, Kirk Hinrich, Willie Green and Ivan Johnson give them a much deeper bench than last year (All they had was Crawford)

meh.

no Kirk just meant more time for Jeff Teague who was on fire in that series.

[Reverend Hoops]

I'll bet my condo the Bulls beat a Horford-less Hawks in a 7 game series.

Horford is expected to be back by Mid-April.....

[No.23]

Can't wait for this to be bumped in the offseason.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Thats all you can go on for now, regular season head to heads meant very little in the playoffs.

I personally think Bulls stand a far better chance at getting past Miami and winning it all than last year. They seem more confident and deeper than last year but Rip MUST give them very good production at the SG spot and Boozer must play Bosh even otherwise it will be the same result as last year.

But this Bulls team is better than they were last season and in the playoffs last season. So, yeah, you can use this season and how much better they are as why they have a chance at beating the Heat in the playoffs this season.

[All Net]

But this Bulls team is better than they were last season and in the playoffs last season. So, yeah, you can use this season and how much better they are as why they have a chance at beating the Heat in the playoffs this season.

Yeah You can use how teams match-up to compare but who won the games isn

[Tlova]

Deng > most other 2nd options in the NBA.

hell... dude would be a go to guy for some other teams "Sixers, Bucks, Hornets, Kings, Pistons,ect"
Like Who?

[e-LIMON-ators]

This Bulls team is better than last season. They have had a lot of time to gel and build chemistry. Playing together with guys for a while can help in knowing their teammates tendencies and where they are more effective. They play better as a TEAM now. But, this team will win or lose by Rose. I've watched almost all their games and I truly believe that they can beat every team in the league excluding the Heat. That series, WHEN they play ( they will play in the ECF, it's inevitable), will decide who wins the title. I have not seen any team in the west that is on the level of these teams. When at their utmost best, Miami & Chicago are in a class of their own. The thunder have weaknesses that can be exploited by Miami & Chicago, mainly that the thunder are not on their level on Defense & Westbrook is a like Jekyll and Hyde. He can win you the series and lose you the series. The play of Rose against the Heat will decide if they go on to the finals. If he plays like he did last year, they lose. If he elevates his game and plays better than he did...they have a good chance of beating them.

[Clocian-IGN]

Like Who?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Danny_Granger_cropped_3992776221.jpg/180px-Danny_Granger_cropped_3992776221.jpg

[Bigsmoke]

Like Who?

that second option the reigning champs have right now.

after thinking about; Wade, Gasol, Joe Johnson, westbrook, and Blake are the only 2nd options that I could think that who are better than Deng.

Blake is a first "scoring" option but i think CP3 is the Clippers best player.

[StateOfMind12]

Really? :facepalm
I thought it was kind of offensive for a Bulls fan as well but he actually meant that the Heat are the only team that can beat them. I am not sure if he stated that the Heat will beat them and that is a fact, if so then that is pretty offensive.

[blacknapalm]

this thread title applies to the spurs way more imo. pop plays matchups and is great at pre-game adjustments. this bulls team is better than last season. they're running better offensive sets and have more depth.

that said, it's silly to act like anything is set in stone. this shortened season has already been wacky and i expect even more surprises down the line. remember the last shortened season? 8th seed NY made it all the way finals. never happened before and hasn't happened since. i expect some other sort of upset. either OKC, miami or chicago will lose in the second round....or some team will get super hot going into the playoffs and go deep...or something like that

[Tlova]

that second option the reigning champs have right now.
Terry?:facepalm

[Glide2keva]

Bulls should just pack it up, they have no shot at beating Miami.

[TheMarkMadsen]

The Bulls are one legit second option away from winning multiple titles.

[eliteballer]

John Lucas III Jimmy Butler Korver Brewer Asik

:roll: Please stop, like these scrubs are going to change the course of any series.

and Dallas had things Chicago doesnt. Reliable post scoring(Dirk), and lights out shooters(Terry, Kidd) and multiple guys who could get into the paint and cause havoc when necessary(Terry, Barea)

and as for Rose, lets be honest. You put half a dozen other PGs with that solid regular season supporting cast(Paul, Westbrook, Deron, Rondo, Nash) and they are winning an MVP too.

[PJR]

Dude really said John Lucas tho...:oldlol:

[chairman]

:roll: Please stop, like these scrubs are going to change the course of any series.

and Dallas had things Chicago doesnt. Reliable post scoring(Dirk), and lights out shooters(Terry, Kidd) and multiple guys who could get into the paint and cause havoc when necessary(Terry, Barea)

and as for Rose, lets be honest. You put half a dozen other PGs with that solid regular season supporting cast(Paul, Westbrook, Deron, Rondo, Nash) and they are winning an MVP too.
John Lucas would take a shit on any of the PGs the lakers have

[All Net]

John Lucas would take a shit on any of the PGs the lakers have

Maybe so but don't see what that has to do with this thread

[Tlova]

John Lucas would take a shit on any of the PGs the lakers have
what PG doesn't:confusedshrug:

[chairman]

Maybe so but don't see what that has to do with this thread
To let him know to look at his own team before he calls a player a scrub. Everyone on that list is better then any lakers player not named Kobe, Gasol or Bynum.

[All Net]

To let him know to look at his own team before he calls a player a scrub. Everyone on that list is better then any lakers player not named Kobe, Gasol or Bynum.

Insulting the Lakers isn't the way to go...he doesn't care.

[demons2005]

"Rose is overrated because he has great teammates, Rose will never win the finals because his teammates suck, Rose is overrated because he has great teammates, Rose will never win the finals because his teammates suck,Rose is overrated because he has great teammates, Rose will never win the finals because his teammates suck,Rose is overrated because he has great teammates, Rose will never win the finals because his teammates suck,Rose is overrated because he has great teammates, Rose will never win the finals because his teammates suck"

unbelievable level of cognitive dissonance for some posters on this website

[LakersFan626]

:roll: Please stop, like these scrubs are going to change the course of any series.

and Dallas had things Chicago doesnt. Reliable post scoring(Dirk), and lights out shooters(Terry, Kidd) and multiple guys who could get into the paint and cause havoc when necessary(Terry, Barea)

and as for Rose, lets be honest. You put half a dozen other PGs with that solid regular season supporting cast(Paul, Westbrook, Deron, Rondo, Nash) and they are winning an MVP too.

And the Heat have reliable post scoring? The Bulls have no shooters when they have one of the best shooters in the game?

The Heat have their own major weaknesses too (defending the three, choking in the 4th MULTIPLE times, their best player not coming through when they need him most, as noted in that Bucks game where he scored 24 in the 1st) so it's silly to guarantee that they'll be in the finals and win it this year. Didn't you guys learn at all from last year?

[ILLsmak]

No post scoring

no reliable second option to make plays in crunchtime during the playoffs. What, you gonna tell me you're going to be comfortable with Luol Deng making plays if Rose is shut down?:oldlol:

Noah isn't a factor on offense, Boozer folds against other stars in the playoffs.

minimal outside shooting.

Its Rose surrounded by a bunch of above average players who's games are built for the regular season, not the playoffs. Reminds me of LeBron's cavs, only those teams did have post scoring and outside shooting.

There's half a dozen other teams that are fully capable of beating them in a playoff series(Miami, Boston, OKC, Lakers, Dallas, Clips, and probably a few others who matchup well enough that they'd have more than a fighting chance(Indiana, Atlanta when they get back Horford and Memphis when they get back Randolph, Orlando)

Every team is built for the regular season until they win. Because there are other contenders, this statement is somewhat valid. Anyone COULD win it, and if the Bulls do win you'll say something like, "oh, I guess they got better."
or "Rose really went ape."

I think the Bulls can win in the post season. Are they going to win a championship this year? Odds are against that, or anyone, winning it because there are more than 2 contenders.

-Smak

[ConanRulesNBC]

:roll: Please stop, like these scrubs are going to change the course of any series.

and Dallas had things Chicago doesnt. Reliable post scoring(Dirk), and lights out shooters(Terry, Kidd) and multiple guys who could get into the paint and cause havoc when necessary(Terry, Barea)

and as for Rose, lets be honest. You put half a dozen other PGs with that solid regular season supporting cast(Paul, Westbrook, Deron, Rondo, Nash) and they are winning an MVP too.

Scrubs? Asik is a scrub? He's one of the best defensive Centers in the league that would start on a lot of teams and yet he's some scrub? Ronnie Brewer is a scrub? He's good enough to start on a lot of teams. Korver a scrub? Lucas III and Jimmy Butler are solid bench players. The Bulls have the deepest bench in the league.

As for the Rose comment... you're obviously an idiot.

[All Net]

And the Heat have reliable post scoring? The Bulls have no shooters when they have one of the best shooters in the game?

The Heat have their own major weaknesses too (defending the three, choking in the 4th MULTIPLE times, their best player not coming through when they need him most, as noted in that Bucks game where he scored 24 in the 1st) so it's silly to guarantee that they'll be in the finals and win it this year. Didn't you guys learn at all from last year?

Nothing is a lock thats for sure

Miami are the favourites for obvious reasons but doesn't mean they will certainly win. They should but they may not...

won't look good on any of the big 3 if they lose again though.

[bsyde82]

Who's going to score for the Bulls in crunch time when Bron smothers DRose? That's the only lasting memory I have from last year's ECF.

The Heat now have Battier to at least contain Deng, so Bron is free to lock down Rose (in crunch time that is).

[Basketbolero]

Bulls have good size and athleticism, play great defense, are unselfish and very well coached. You would think that, of all fans, a Laker fan would have learned to value those things after 2004...

[Tenchi Ryu]

Bulls have good size and athleticism, play great defense, are unselfish and very well coached. You would think that, of all fans, a Laker fan would have learned to value those things after 2004...
/Thread

[TheMan]

lol at the OP thinking the Lakers could beat the Bulls:oldlol:

[All Net]

lol at the OP thinking the Lakers could beat the Bulls:oldlol:

Don't think he is saying they could.

I don't think we could either....or Miami or even Thunder.

[Stuckey]

cant wait to see the rematch of heat and bulls

boozer sucks though so i see where op is coming from

[TheMan]

Don't think he is saying they could.

I don't think we could either....or Miami or even Thunder.
In his opening post, he names the Lakers as fully capable of beating Chicago:oldlol:
he evens thinks the Celtics (old) or Clippers can, with VDN as their coach:facepalm

As a Bulls fan, and knowing anything can happen in a playoffs series and not sisrespecting other teams, only Miami, OKC and MAYBE Dallas worry me.

The OP is just a butthurt hater:roll:

[RRR3]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Danny_Granger_cropped_3992776221.jpg/180px-Danny_Granger_cropped_3992776221.jpg
Danny Granger is a first option on the Pacers, dumbass.

[TheMan]

Danny Granger is a first option on the Pacers, dumbass.
The Pacers have a 1st option?:lol

[Tenchi Ryu]

The Pacers have a 1st option?:lol
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

Don't think he is saying they could.

I don't think we could either....or Miami or even Thunder.


You are one of the most realistic, and unbiased Lakers fan in this board. I am sure you are still a Lakers fan even if Kobe retires less than 3 years from now. I hope the Lakers draft 16/17 yrs.old Canadian Basketball phenom Andrew Wiggins in the near future.

Miami in 5 games againts the Bulls. Heat match up pretty well with Chicago's current lineup unless the acquire Super Boy Dwight Howard before the NBA Trading deadline.

[TheMan]

You are one of the most realistic, and unbiased Lakers fan in this board. I am sure you are still a Lakers fan even if Kobe retires less than 3 years from now. I hope the Lakers draft 16/17 yrs.old Canadian Basketball phenom Andrew Wiggins in the near future.

Miami in 5 games againts the Bulls. Heat match up pretty well with Chicago's current lineup unless the acquire Super Boy Dwight Howard before the NBA Trading deadline.
I think you'll be in for a rude surprise, last year was a breakout year for a young Bulls team, the Heat had more players who had big game experience and it showed in the Bulls inability to close out the games they held a lead in the 4th qtr (pretty sure they held a lead in 4 of the 5 games).

This Bulls/Heat ECF (if it happens) will go 7 games, book it.The Bulls learned from last year's playoffs...

[Lebron23]

I think you'll be in for a rude surprise, last year was a breakout year for a young Bulls team, the Heat had more players who had big game experience and it showed in the Bulls inability to close out the games they held a lead in the 4th qtr (pretty sure they held a lead in 4 of the 5 games).

This Bulls/Heat ECF (if it happens) will go 7 games, book it.The Bulls learned from last year's playoffs...


Let's see in the playoffs. Rose needs to elevate his game in the playoffs. Last year he shot under 35% from the field againts the Miami Heat. No more excuses this year.

[TheMan]

Let's see in the playoffs. Rose needs to elevate his game in the playoffs. Last year he shot under 35% from the field againts the Miami Heat. No more excuses this year.
That or we could try and convince LeBron it's the NBA Finals so he can do his disappearing act:hammerhead: :cheers:

[Lebron23]

That or we could try and convince LeBron it's the NBA Finals so he can do his disappearing act:hammerhead: :cheers:


I am sure LeBron is going to win an NBA Championship this year. Lucky 27. LBJ is gonna lead his team in shot attempts per game in the NBA Finals. I don't give a $hit about the percentage. LeBron needs to be more active. They always give the NBA Finals MVP to the top scorer of a winning team.

[All Net]

That or we could try and convince LeBron it's the NBA Finals so he can do his disappearing act:hammerhead: :cheers:

I wouldn't bag on Lebron for dissapearing in the finals after the way Rose played in the playoffs...maybe it was a learning curve for Derrick...but he was poor throughout.

[TheMan]

I wouldn't bag on Lebron for dissapearing in the finals after the way Rose played in the playoffs...maybe it was a learning curve for Derrick...but he was poor throughout.
Rose...22 year old first time that deep in the playoffs who the WHOLE MIAMI DEFENSE FOCUSED ON STOPPING

vs

James...26 year old in his prime unquestioned best player in the league who now has Wade and Bosh as team mates and has been to the Finals before and was defended by a 68 y.o. Kidd


Who failed harder???

Not even a debate, bit that was last year, we'll see this year...I also think this is LBJ's year to get it done, the pressure is on LBJ, not Rose.

[Lebron23]

Rose...22 year old first time that deep in the playoffs who the WHOLE MIAMI DEFENSE FOCUSED ON STOPPING

vs

James...26 year old in his prime unquestioned best player in the league who now has Wade and Bosh as team mates and has been to the Finals before and was defended by a 68 y.o. Kidd


Who failed harder???

Not even a debate, bit that was last year, we'll see this year...I also think this is LBJ's year to get it done, the pressure is on LBJ, not Rose.


2012 is the start of the LBJ Era. Jordan and Shaq won an NBA title when they were both 28 yrs.old.

[All Net]

Rose...22 year old first time that deep in the playoffs who the WHOLE MIAMI DEFENSE FOCUSED ON STOPPING

vs

James...26 year old in his prime unquestioned best player in the league who now has Wade and Bosh as team mates and has been to the Finals before and was defended by a 68 y.o. Kidd


Who failed harder???

Not even a debate, bit that was last year, we'll see this year...I also think this is LBJ's year to get it done, the pressure is on LBJ, not Rose.

Can't use age here when Rose won the MVP...Lebron failed in the finals but Rose was poor throughout the post season. Lebron was very good up until the finals including making big plays to put away the Bulls...

as I said maybe it was a learning curve and he will of learnt from that.I think both will...

[hkfosho]

Can't use age here when Rose won the MVP...Lebron failed in the finals but Rose was poor throughout the post season. Lebron was very good up until the finals including making big plays to put away the Bulls...

as I said maybe it was a learning curve and he will of learnt from that.I think both will...

MVP = regular season award. Rose hasn't had enough playoff experience to overcome such a series on his own. I think the Bulls will be more prepared this season.

[Tenchi Ryu]

I know how everyone doesn't like to use regular season games as an example, but that game a few weeks ago with the Bulls and Heat was an exact replica of how the playoffs will play out. Lebron23, you keep talking about Rose needing to shift into a new gear, but that game showed that he can take it there this season. He kept the bulls in the game and challenged Lebron straight up. And that was honestly the best the Heat can give. Its gonna come down to the final 2 mins, every game.

[Pointguard]

Can't use age here when Rose won the MVP...Lebron failed in the finals but Rose was poor throughout the post season. Lebron was very good up until the finals including making big plays to put away the Bulls...

as I said maybe it was a learning curve and he will of learnt from that.I think both will...

Rose carried his team thru two rounds of victories. He kept coming at teams despite them throwing the kitchen sink at him. He met his responsibilities head on, with all of his heart. That's the way you are supposed to go out. Its ok to miss, but it's not ok to forget who you are or why you are there. I think Lebron is the best player in the game but inner problems are always way more to worry about than outer problems. I trust Rose's mentality more than I do Lebron's. Lebron now, isn't as good in the 4th quarters as he was three years ago. And confidence isn't something you can buy at the store. The symptoms are still there.

The Yankees had a guy named Knoblauch(sp) he was a seasoned vet and all star/ROY and even got MVP votes a couple of years which is amazing for a second baseman. He made an erorr once while in his prime, and all of a sudden he could no longer throw accurately to first base. The more pressure he recieved the worse it got. All of this to say Lebron has way more pressure on him than Rose does. But I hope he pulls thru and we see superstars battle at full strength rather than last year when almost all of them under-performed. Lebron's was the most unexcusable. He stopped himself.

[All Net]

I know how everyone doesn't like to use regular season games as an example, but that game a few weeks ago with the Bulls and Heat was an exact replica of how the playoffs will play out. Lebron23, you keep talking about Rose needing to shift into a new gear, but that game showed that he can take it there this season. He kept the bulls in the game and challenged Lebron straight up. And that was honestly the best the Heat can give. Its gonna come down to the final 2 mins, every game.

You can't be serious?

[Tenchi Ryu]

You can't be serious?
How am I not? Lebron had an incredible 35 point game. Bosh had a good 20 point game. And Wade traditionally struggled against Chicago like always. Against Chicago, that pretty much was the best of Heat basketball they could give us. Yea Wade could play good, but I could say that Rip would contribute the same to wash out Wade's contribution, like he did that game.

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

Yeah the Bulls will be Miami's bitches once again. LeBron is going to prove his superiority over Rose once again. 5 game easy win last year, and 1-0 this year. Feels good man.

[All Net]

How am I not? Lebron had an incredible 35 point game. Bosh had a good 20 point game. And Wade traditionally struggled against Chicago like always. Against Chicago, that pretty much was the best of Heat basketball they could give us. Yea Wade could play good, but I could say the Rip would contribute the same to wash out Wade's contribution, like he did that game.

It's fine saying that game showed you why you think bulls can beat them but that game was far from miami's best shot. Miami were very sloppy and at times weren't very sharp or switched on, they had terrible decision making late on.

[Tenchi Ryu]

It's fine saying that game showed you why you think bulls can beat them but that game was far from miami's best shot. Miami were very sloppy and at times weren't very sharp or switched on, they had terrible decision making late on.
But at the same time, you could say the same for the Bulls. Plenty of offensive opportunities that were wasted with missed shots that normally go in. (I'm looking at you Boozer). The Heat were able to absolutely abuse Lucas to the point of making Rose having to play almost the entire game due to Watson being out. Both Deng and Watson out and Rip injuring himself during the game cut a significant portion of our scoring, Which is why Rose had to take so much of the load with Korver behind him.

The Heat could play better, but so could the Bulls. And both of them playing to the max is what I was saying, which is that We've seen the best the Heat can do to us scoring wise, and it will be close everytime. Hell its been for the past 1 1/2 years now including all the way back since our first meeting in the 2011 regular season.

[All Net]

But at the same time, you could say the same for the Bulls. Plenty of offensive opportunities that were wasted with missed shots that normally go in. (I'm looking at you Boozer). The Heat were able to absolutely abuse Lucas to the point of making Rose having to play almost the entire game due to Watson being out. Both Deng and Watson out and Rip injuring himself during the game cut a significant portion of our scoring, Which is why Rose had to take so much of the load with Korver behind him.

The Heat could play better, but so could the Bulls. And both of them playing to the max is what I was saying, which is that We've seen the best the Heat can do to us scoring wise, and it will be close everytime. Hell its been for the past 1 1/2 years now including all the way back since our first meeting in the 2011 regular season.


I agree but that's the point it wasn't miami's best shot... Both teams can and will play alot better.

Miami's best shot is better than anybody else's IMO but wether they reach their best level remains to be seen.

[97 bulls]

It's fine saying that game showed you why you think bulls can beat them but that game was far from miami's best shot. Miami were very sloppy and at times weren't very sharp or switched on, they had terrible decision making late on.
That was due to the bulls defense. The bulls had that game vs the heat won. Rose uncharacteristickly missed those two FTs. And if I'm not mistaken, the heat were at full strength, and the bulls weren't.

But I love the bulls chances.

[knicksman]

At the end of the day, bulls have a weak frontcourt. Its like they are the suns who plays small ball. Winning in the regular season but fails in the playoffs. At least those suns team doesnt have a legit center while thats the best frontcourt bulls could have. If bulls almost got swept, why would it change when its only hamilton that they added. And its not like its player still have room for improvement coz most of the players on their roster has already reached its peak.

[ballinhun8]

At the end of the day, bulls have a weak frontcourt. Its like they are the suns who plays small ball. Winning in the regular season but fails in the playoffs. At least those suns team doesnt have a legit center while thats the best frontcourt bulls could have. If bulls almost got swept, why would it change when its only hamilton that they added. And its not like its player still have room for improvement coz most of the players on their roster has already reached its peak.


Please take some English grammar lessons so people can understand what you write.





Oh, and you just have no clue what you are talking about. Leave basketball talk to the grown folks who actually know what is going on.

[knicksman]

Please take some English grammar lessons so people can understand what you write.





Oh, and you just have no clue what you are talking about. Leave basketball talk to the grown folks who actually know what is going on.

Well they say if youre bad in grammar then youre good in math. So if you care about grammar then youre bad in math(or IQ). So I understand now why you didnt get what Im saying:lol

[G-train]

Intredasting.
The Bulls wont beat the Heat unless Boozer plays like a top 5 power forward.
In the NBA you need guys who create offence in the playoffs under extreme pressure.
The Heat have 3. The Bulls currently have 1 and the Heat can contain him enough to win.
The Bulls are not the Mavs. They need production in terms of offensive creation that they do not have currently.
Regardless, if the Bulls are at full strength (a decent if with Booze/Noah/Rip/Deng being a little prone) it should be a decent series, might go to 6 games instead of 5.

[G-train]

Bulls and Heat need to make ECF first too.

[Chicago Brawls]

The ball is round.

The two baskets are equal.

Both teams play with five guys at the same time.

[roffie]

This will go well for you. I promise.

:roll:

[Clutch]

The ball is round.

The two baskets are equal.

Both teams play with five guys at the same time.
Unless they are the Magic :lol

[SilkkTheShocker]

LOL these Bulls homers are too much. Not sure if they will even make it the ECF. Derrick Marbury isn't leading anyone to the Finals

[Yung D-Will]

I am sure LeBron is going to win an NBA Championship this year. Lucky 27. LBJ is gonna lead his team in shot attempts per game in the NBA Finals. I don't give a $hit about the percentage. LeBron needs to be more active. They always give the NBA Finals MVP to the top scorer of a winning team.
I could of Sworn in both 2010 and 2011 you had Lebron finals mvp in your avatar.

[Millennium X]

this thread must be a joke. if anyone is overrated it's miami.

bulls have been riddled with injuries all year and still have the best record in the league. they're the team to beat. okc and miami are overrated.

bulls

thunder/heat


rest

[Clocian-IGN]

LOL these Bulls homers are too much. Not sure if they will even make it the ECF. Derrick Marbury isn't leading anyone to the Finals

and the heat with lebron "the king of nothing" will never win a ring :applause:. see how i did that?

[Yung D-Will]

this thread must be a joke. if anyone is overrated it's miami.

bulls have been riddled with injuries all year and still have the best record in the league. they're the team to beat. okc and miami are overrated.

bulls

thunder/heat


rest

Lol so basically any contender besides the Bulls are overrated.

Great logic.

:oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

and the heat with lebron "the king of nothing" will never win a ring :applause:. see how i did that?

Maybe, but they won't have a problem with beating the Bulls as long as they are built around D-Brick.

[Clocian-IGN]

Maybe, but they won't have a problem with beating the Bulls as long as they are built around D-Brick.

damn, content to only win the ecf. sad state of minds heat fans have :violin:

[SilkkTheShocker]

damn, content to only win the ecf. sad state of minds heat fans have :violin:
Where did I say I would be content? Learn how to read clown. Heat>>>Bulls ar the end of the day. Thats my point rainman.

[Clocian-IGN]

Where did I say I would be content? Learn how to read clown. Heat>>>Bulls ar the end of the day. Thats my point rainman.

Heat bandwagoners cheering they won the ecf last year than mavs winning the chip, hilarious :roll:

[nathanjizzle]

heat fans were really the pathetic ones last season not bulls fans. We knew the furthest we would go was ecf no one was expecting a championship.

While heat fans on the other hand, were claiming championship already and they have failed..
so which teams fans failed last season?

[SilkkTheShocker]

Heat bandwagoners cheering they won the ecf last year than mavs winning the chip, hilarious :roll:

LOL at having to talk about the Mavs because the bulls got their asses handed to them so bad by the Heat.:oldlol:

[nathanjizzle]

LOL at having to talk about the Mavs because the bulls got their asses handed to them so bad by the Heat.:oldlol:

wernt you guys claiming championship last season? bulls fans wernt

so your wrong..but somehow your more right then bulls fans?

[SilkkTheShocker]

wernt you guys claiming championship last season? bulls fans wernt

so your wrong..but somehow your more right then bulls fans?


The fact the bulls fans think they can beat the Heat just shows how delusional they are. Take a seat clown :oldlol:

[Clocian-IGN]

LOL at having to talk about the Mavs because the bulls got their asses handed to them so bad by the Heat.:oldlol:

that series was close outside the blowout by chicago(funny) despite the 4-1 by the heat. nj trying to cover that up through the record but we all watched the games :lol

[Brickz187]

LOL at having to talk about the Mavs because the bulls got their asses handed to them so bad by the Heat.:oldlol:

Those games were a lot closer than us handing them an ass beating. Was a very good series and will be again if both Miami and Chicago make it that far again. We may have beat them 4-1, but the games were very close and winnable for the Bulls.

[Clocian-IGN]

Those games were a lot closer than us handing them an ass beating. Was a very good series and will be again if both Miami and Chicago make it that far again. We may have beat them 4-1, but the games were very close and winnable for the Bulls.

a heat fan with sense. very rare :bowdown:

[nathanjizzle]

The fact the bulls fans think they can beat the Heat just shows how delusional they are. Take a seat clown :oldlol:

holy shit...and you call me the delusional one.

[Tlova]

Those games were a lot closer than us handing them an ass beating. Was a very good series and will be again if both Miami and Chicago make it that far again. We may have beat them 4-1, but the games were very close and winnable for the Bulls.
This. Same with OKC and the Mavs, games were very winnable but Rose, durant, and westbrook lost their 2nd and 3rd round cherries last year.

[MMM]

ok so Chicago has the best record in the league and Chicago has dealt with a lot of injuries. For some reason that sounds familiar yet I'm hearing a lot of over confidence from Bulls fans. The Heat fans are just as over confident though you would think both fan bases would of learnt from what happened last season.

[Dave3]

The same Miami team that has lost to the Bucks twice, the Atlanta Hawks, got destroyed by the Magic last night, barely beat a Bulls team with an injured Rose and without Luol Deng. :oldlol:
You're just listing their losses lol. You can do that for any team and make them sound bad.

eg. "The same Bulls team that lost to the no D Warriors, the Grizzlies missing Zbo, blown out by the Hawks and Sixers, and barely beat the 3 win Bobcats:oldlol: "

I can pull up every championship team and point to their bad games. It's not an indication of anything.

[DRose1899]

Miami will sweep the Bulls.

Reverse jinx > over-confident jinx, I learn alot from last seaon.

[Tlova]

You're just listing their losses lol. You can do that for any team and make them sound bad.

eg. "The same Bulls team that lost to the no D Warriors, the Grizzlies missing Zbo, blown out by the Hawks and Sixers, and barely beat the 3 win Bobcats:oldlol: "

I can pull up every championship team and point to their bad games. It's not an indication of anything.
Gotta agree here regular season doesn't mean anything it comes down to match ups, injuries and who's hot at that point.

[brahmabull117]

Bulls are #8 in the league in 3 point shooting, #2 in offensive efficiency, #3 in defensive efficiency and #1 in rebounding




OP = moron

[SpecialQue]

Hey Bulls fans! Stop liking your team!

[Clocian-IGN]

Bulls are #8 in the league in 3 point shooting, #2 in offensive efficiency, #3 in defensive efficiency and #1 in rebounding




OP = moron

we are actually #1 in offense breh

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/2012.html

:rockon:

[eliteballer]

Bulls are #8 in the league in 3 point shooting, #2 in offensive efficiency, #3 in defensive efficiency and #1 in rebounding




OP = moron

I said they are a regular season team...and they are 8th in 3 point PERCENTAGE, but 21st in makes per game:rolleyes:

[Alamo]

Lol it's the same team from last year + old, injured Rip Hamilton.

This is a terrible argument. Most of the players may be the same, but a team can get better without moving in a bunch of superstars. Last year the Bull's offense was middle of the pack, now they are 2nd in the league in offensive efficiency.

:facepalm

[Clocian-IGN]

I said they are a regular season team...and they are 8th in 3 point PERCENTAGE, but 21st in makes per game:rolleyes:

your trolling is so terrible. dont even no what a regular season team is. lakers are more regular season than the bulls with their terrible offense and subpar defense :oldlol:. you have no place to talk

[TheMan]

This is a terrible argument. Most of the players may be the same, but a team can get better without moving in a bunch of superstars. :facepalm
See last year's Mavs...

This thread that predictably became a Bulls fans vs Heat fans mudslinging contest was started by a Laker troll...I say us Bulls and Heat fans wait until the ECFs (if both teams make it, it's not set in stone we'll both be there) and instead focus on the OP's team and how easily 6 teams are better than the Lakers In the WC and how they won't be anywhere near the Finals this year.

Discuss:roll:

OP=pha.ggot

[Bigsmoke]

we are actually #1 in offense breh

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/2012.html

:rockon:

I'm not sure how that stat goes.

The Heat are averaging 103ppg on 48% shooting and are not first :wtf:

[Alamo]

I'm not sure how that stat goes.

The Heat are averaging 103ppg on 48% shooting and are not first :wtf:

Points scored per 100 possessions.

[Bigsmoke]

Points scored per 100 possessions.
thanx

[Crazy Style]

Just wait until the Bulls start going, and those who think Miami will sweep the Bulls are totally wronge. Bulls have like the top five team when it comes to overall team work. The game against the Heat this season the Bulls just came up short against a healthy Miami squad and had Deng been healthy that game, they probably would have beaten them. The next Bulls Heat series is going to be a lot closer this time around. Plus the Bulls adding a reliable scoring option in Rip Hamilton was a key move for them this season. He's resting a lot now, especially with the team playing so well, but he'll be the missing piece the Bulls could have used in last years playoffs. Bulls are getting better and haven't hit their highest point yet, so don't any of you be surprised if you see the Bulls make it to the Finals instead of the Heat.

[All Net]

See last year's Mavs...

This thread that predictably became a Bulls fans vs Heat fans mudslinging contest was started by a Laker troll...I say us Bulls and Heat fans wait until the ECFs (if both teams make it, it's not set in stone we'll both be there) and instead focus on the OP's team and how easily 6 teams are better than the Lakers In the WC and how they won't be anywhere near the Finals this year.

Discuss:roll:

OP=pha.ggot

Insulting the Lakers is pointless and immature more so when the guy never posts anything about Lakers apart from bashing Fisher...

[tobethdope]

I said they are a regular season team...and they are 8th in 3 point PERCENTAGE, but 21st in makes per game:rolleyes:


ya, and thats very bad, coz we all know that teams that rely heavily on their outside-shooting are the perfect playoff teams:rolleyes:

[eliteballer]

That would be teams with post scoring AND outside shooting....neither of which the Bulls have:rolleyes: