Kobe with just another game with 28 shot attempts

[brahmabull117]

this fukking guy and his shot chucking is ridiculous :facepalm

[PistolPete44]

and people here called him the goat:facepalm

[v1ncelis]

:lol 1 assist ... good old Kobe.

[skaterbasist]

What is he supposed to do when Fisher/MWP/Blake/Bynum go 5/28?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

What is he shooting this year?

[inclinerator]

he was starstrucked when he met lin

[Dictator]

this fukking guy and his shot chucking is ridiculous :facepalm


-worst bench in the league

-bynum can't handle double teams

-dfish is a starter.....

kobe should of went for 40+ fga

[Heavincent]

I know. He probably should of shot at least 35 times considering how his teammates can't make ****ing anything. 29 shot attempts was probably not enough tonight.

Bynum: 1/8. I like Bynum, but how does a big man go 1/8 :roll:

[Noob Saibot]

kobe do what kobe do.

[Heavincent]

What is he shooting this year?

45%

[mikek85]

Kobe pretty much froze the offense. It was just him going 1 on 1. He really needs to involve everyone... it was a pretty pathetic game for the lakers.

[AirTupac]

Kobe pretty much froze the offense. It was just him going 1 on 1. He really needs to involve everyone... it was a pretty pathetic game for the lakers.

Hahahahahaha that's funny. Involve who? Gasol and Kobe did everything tonight. Bynum got shutdown tonight. The bench and everyone else played like ass.

[RazorBaLade]

Kobe pretty much froze the offense. It was just him going 1 on 1. He really needs to involve everyone... it was a pretty pathetic game for the lakers.

the offense of open shots that everyone bricked and bynum going 1-8? was that the offense he decided to freeze from mid 3rd onwards to make like 10/17 of his next fgs? The offense in which he had the 3rd highest FG% on his team and he shot 11/28?

[Kiarip]

Kobe shot like shit in the beginning of the game, but so did the rest of his team... But then he was able to make a comeback and play well in the second half, and his team continued to suck balls...

how is this his fault at all?

[bond10]

There is no way Kobe can get the blame for this. Lakers outside of Gasol just stunk it up...can they please fire Steve Blake he's AWFUL

[disel]

Lin>>>>>>>>>choke cryant/. All hail ninja master blaster lin.

[ace23]

34 points :confusedshrug:

[LBJMVP]

34 points :confusedshrug:

11/29 and almost all his shots were terrible. he's lucky he got hot
could have easily been 6/29

[AirTupac]

11/29 and almost all his shots were terrible. he's lucky he got hot
could have easily been 6/29

And Lakers bench could have made shots and won the game. Too bad it didn't happen. :facepalm

[Dave3]

45%
44% now after tonight's game.

[Heavincent]

44% now after tonight's game.

Big difference.

[ace23]

11/29 and almost all his shots were terrible. he's lucky he got hot
could have easily been 6/29
He's unlucky he started cold. He could have easily been 17/29. Those are the types of shots Kobe takes. :confusedshrug:

It's whatever; he dropped 34 on 28 FGA. That's a good ratio.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

45%

After this game? Dont know about that.

[andgar923]

Kobe fans clearly don't understand what 'getting teammates involved' means.

Kobe does pass the ball, but it's after he's ran their offense to the floor. I can guarantee that if somebody like Lin joins the Lakers their offense becomes better instantly.

Kobe's insistence on taking every shot and challenging double and triple teams, freezes out the other players and takes away any possible rhythm. So even if they get wide open shots, they come out of the game's flow.

The thing is, when Kobe 'wants' to be a playmaker he's brilliant at it!

The offensive flow is moving because everybody is not just getting touches, but the 'right' kind of touches in the 'right' time and 'right' place. But even during these games, those are just 'moments' for Kobe as he seems to get away from team ball and back to KoME ball. At times it works, at times it doesn't, but why escape it when it's working?

Even tho Kobe was hitting some nice shots in the 2nd half, it was a horrible game to watch, and a horrible selfish exhibition by Kobe.

Thus the Kobe paradox.....

Dr Jekyll and Mr.Hyde

[Heavincent]

People look too much into FG attempts sometimes. When he was 1/11 a lot of those shots were ones that he can usually knock down in his sleep.

Then he went 10/18 for the rest of the game. Hell, he was taking most of his crazy "Kobe shots" during that stretch :confusedshrug:

[warriors05]

Kobe and Lin share the same birthday, just Lin was born 10 years later

[Heavincent]

After this game? Dont know about that.

It might have dropped to 44%. Big whoop.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It might have dropped to 44%. Big whoop.

44% is low for even Kobe standards. All those minutes Brown was playing him seems to be taking its toll and as a result, he's been struggling down the stretch of these games.

I'm sure you Kobe fans are already aware of this.

[RazorBaLade]

Kobe fans clearly don't understand what 'getting teammates involved' means.

Kobe does pass the ball, but it's after he's ran their offense to the floor. I can guarantee that if somebody like Lin joins the Lakers their offense becomes better instantly.

Kobe's insistence on taking every shot and challenging double and triple teams, freezes out the other players and takes away any possible rhythm. So even if they get wide open shots, they come out of the game's flow.

The thing is, when Kobe 'wants' to be a playmaker he's brilliant at it!

The offensive flow is moving because everybody is not just getting touches, but the 'right' kind of touches in the 'right' time and 'right' place. But even during these games, those are just 'moments' for Kobe as he seems to get away from team ball and back to KoME ball. At times it works, at times it doesn't, but why escape it when it's working?

Even tho Kobe was hitting some nice shots in the 2nd half, it was a horrible game to watch, and a horrible selfish exhibition by Kobe.

Thus the Kobe paradox.....

Dr Jekyll and Mr.Hyde

youre a moron. I guarantee you dont say ****ing shit to credit kobe when bynum doesnt miss layups and instead of 1-8 is 7-8, and instead of fisher being 0-1903902184 or whatever he was he makes shots and artest makes his shots... I bet kobe gets no credit. What if everyone made shots when kobe passed to them and he had 12 assists tonight? Still bad facilitator? You're being an idiot. By this measure I can go and say every time lebron has 10 assists and loses he didn't make the "RIGHT" passes. INfuriating.

Look at this garbage, instead of something tangible and measurable you have created the word "right" in quotations. Give up.

[AirTupac]

Kobe fans clearly don't understand what 'getting teammates involved' means.

Kobe does pass the ball, but it's after he's ran their offense to the floor. I can guarantee that if somebody like Lin joins the Lakers their offense becomes better instantly.

Kobe's insistence on taking every shot and challenging double and triple teams, freezes out the other players and takes away any possible rhythm. So even if they get wide open shots, they come out of the game's flow.

The thing is, when Kobe 'wants' to be a playmaker he's brilliant at it!

The offensive flow is moving because everybody is not just getting touches, but the 'right' kind of touches in the 'right' time and 'right' place. But even during these games, those are just 'moments' for Kobe as he seems to get away from team ball and back to KoME ball. At times it works, at times it doesn't, but why escape it when it's working?

Even tho Kobe was hitting some nice shots in the 2nd half, it was a horrible game to watch, and a horrible selfish exhibition by Kobe.

Thus the Kobe paradox.....

Dr Jekyll and Mr.Hyde

Blaming Kobe on a game like THIS is idiotic. The team wasn't performing. Bynum was getting shutdown and everyone else couldn't make a shot to save their lives. This thread is a joke.

[talkingconch]

good. wish he would've shot more

Fisher/Bynum/Peace/Blake: 5/28

what a ****ing joke. And the clank's thrown up by Troy Murphy? He was wide open on at least 3 if i remember correctly from 3.

[mikek85]

Blaming Kobe on a game like THIS is idiotic. The team wasn't performing. Bynum was getting shutdown and everyone else couldn't make a shot to save their lives. This thread is a joke.

All the players had shitty chemistry from the beginning. It didn't help that Kobe went totally iso every single play. Sorry but everybody is to blame. Kobe ******gers :roll:

[ace23]

Kobe fans clearly don't understand what 'getting teammates involved' means.

Kobe does pass the ball, but it's after he's ran their offense to the floor. I can guarantee that if somebody like Lin joins the Lakers their offense becomes better instantly.

Kobe's insistence on taking every shot and challenging double and triple teams, freezes out the other players and takes away any possible rhythm. So even if they get wide open shots, they come out of the game's flow.

The thing is, when Kobe 'wants' to be a playmaker he's brilliant at it!

The offensive flow is moving because everybody is not just getting touches, but the 'right' kind of touches in the 'right' time and 'right' place. But even during these games, those are just 'moments' for Kobe as he seems to get away from team ball and back to KoME ball. At times it works, at times it doesn't, but why escape it when it's working?

Even tho Kobe was hitting some nice shots in the 2nd half, it was a horrible game to watch, and a horrible selfish exhibition by Kobe.

Thus the Kobe paradox.....

Dr Jekyll and Mr.Hyde
That's his game, and it's worked well enough to lead the Lakers to get two rings without Shaq.

He's going to have his ups and downs. You take the good with the bad.

[Heavincent]

44% is low for even Kobe standards. All those minutes Brown was playing him seems to be taking its toll. He just hasn't been himself down the stretch of games.

Kobe's a career 45% shooter. The **** are you talking about? He'll be back up to 45% in no time anyway.

I do agree that he has been getting too many minutes, thus he runs out of gas in the fourth quarter, although he was okay tonight in the fourth quarter.

[AirTupac]

All the players had shitty chemistry from the beginning. It didn't help that Kobe went totally iso every single play. Sorry but everybody is to blame. Kobe ******gers :roll:

How is it nut hugging? Typical dumb response from a wanna be troll.

[andgar923]

youre a moron. I guarantee you dont say ****ing shit to credit kobe when bynum doesnt miss layups and instead of 1-8 is 7-8, and instead of fisher being 0-1903902184 or whatever he was he makes shots and artest makes his shots... I bet kobe gets no credit.

Look at this garbage, instead of something tangible and measurable you have created the word "right" in quotations. Give up.

I didn't make this thread, I'm just replying.

And there isn't a million Bynum threads every day proclaiming him being the best player, or best since * insert legend's name here* or Fisher's stans trolling the entire internet making 'Lechoke' gifs, and D-Whistle pics.

But the truth hurts you doesn't it.

[rfoster24]

What is he supposed to do when Fisher/MWP/Blake/Bynum go 5/28?

As a Kobe fan, even i have questioned some of his gametime decisions in the past, but I truly believe that he is doing what is best for the team's offense right now lol. The only thing that could be done to be help a lil more is to get the ball to Pau in isolation more, as they havent done that much this season. But Kobe is playing good people!

[RazorBaLade]

I didn't make this thread, I'm just replying.

And there isn't a million Bynum threads every day proclaiming him being the best player, or best since * insert legend's name here* or Fisher's stans trolling the entire internet making 'Lechoke' gifs, and D-Whistle pics.

But the truth hurts you doesn't it.

You are a moron if a fan decides how you react to what you see on the basketball court with your own eyes by a basketball player.

I understand where you are coming from with this post, but its comically retarded. Way too many people do the same too btw. Idiotic.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Kobe's a career 45% shooter. The **** are you talking about? He'll be back up to 45% in no time anyway.

I know that. What I'm saying is he's struggling right now. 44% is low for Kobe who usually starts out hot and then comes back down to earth.

[mikek85]

How is it nut hugging? Typical dumb response from a wanna be troll.

:lol :lol

Not trollin. When your on the court and your chemistry is already crappy... Iso makes everybody improve their rhythm right?

Oh wait, they are just standing around looking at Kobe....

[StateOfMind12]

44% now after tonight's game.
Yup, and the #1 scorer in the NBA right now. I'm sure it feels good to be the best scorer in the league something LeBron has never been.

[andgar923]

You are a moron if a fan decides how you react to what you see on the basketball court with your own eyes by a basketball player.

I understand where you are coming from with this post, but its comically retarded. Way too many people do the same too btw. Idiotic.

:wtf:

[AirTupac]

:lol :lol

Not trollin. When your on the court and your chemistry is already crappy... Iso makes everybody improve their rhythm right?

Oh wait, they are just standing around looking at Kobe....

Or bricking wide open shots over and over again... Kobe didn't have his best game but this thread is pathetic to even bring up his attempts when he was the only who could score in the 2nd half. Team was pathetic overall.

[RazorBaLade]

:wtf:

You admitted to saying that you only make up these things about Kobe and overly criticize him because fans prop him up. You are INSANE and need to put your life into perspective

[SlayerEnraged]

I know that. What I'm saying is he's struggling right now. 44% is low for Kobe who usually starts out hot and then comes back down to earth.

This year Fg% doesn't tell the story with Kobe. Only 9/26 Games Kobe is under 45%. Only 4 of these 9 games have resulted with Kobe scoring less points than shots.

[b4uc.23]

Joining forces to defend chuckie.. :))

Lin Effect!

[andgar923]

You admitted to saying that you only make up these things about Kobe and overly criticize him because fans prop him up. You are INSANE and need to put your life into perspective

:roll: :roll:

uh..... you're buttthurt because I was 'right'.

I do and have given Kobe props, even went into threads where everybody was trashing him to actually defend him.

And I eve praised him in my post that you can't debunk cause well... you know what I typed was on point.

You wanted to know why I don't trash Fisher or why I don't praise Kobe when Bynum plays good, so I told you why I made my post in a Kobe thread. Also notice that I didn't necessarily trash him for taking 28 shots, I did criticize him for his decision making.

I'm sorry that I've offended the love of your life, I didn't mean to insult you by stating shit that was the truth.

Next time Fisher misses another wide open shot I'll make a thread about him, and whenever Kobe makes a good pass to Bynum I'll do the same... deal? :D

[LakersReign]

WOW....some people never get tired of saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over:rolleyes:

[RazorBaLade]

:roll: :roll:

uh..... you're buttthurt because I was 'right'.

I do and have given Kobe props, even went into threads where everybody was trashing him to actually defend him.

And I eve praised him in my post that you can't debunk cause well... you know what I typed was on point.

You wanted to know why I don't trash Fisher or why I don't praise Kobe when Bynum plays good, so I told you why I made my post in a Kobe thread. Also notice that I didn't necessarily trash him for taking 28 shots, I did criticize him for his decision making.

I'm sorry that I've offended the love of your life, I didn't mean to insult you by stating shit that was the truth.

Next time Fisher misses another wide open shot I'll make a thread about him, and whenever Kobe makes a good pass to Bynum I'll do the same... deal? :D

Umm no. You cannot read.

I said your point of Kobe not doing something "right" is incorrect because it is not within his control for others to make shots. You wouldn't dare post that Kobe played a "KoMe" type game if he had 10 assists tonight and they won by 20 points, and the only reason he didn't have those assists is because the other players missed shots. He gave them the shots, IN THEIR SPOTS and they were usually WIDE open.

Some other game? Maybe. but not after tonight. Kobe did little wrong besides start off pretty poorly shooting wise but again, so did everyone else. That was the game tonight

[longtime lurker]

Kobe fans clearly don't understand what 'getting teammates involved' means.

Kobe does pass the ball, but it's after he's ran their offense to the floor. I can guarantee that if somebody like Lin joins the Lakers their offense becomes better instantly.

Kobe's insistence on taking every shot and challenging double and triple teams, freezes out the other players and takes away any possible rhythm. So even if they get wide open shots, they come out of the game's flow.

The thing is, when Kobe 'wants' to be a playmaker he's brilliant at it!

The offensive flow is moving because everybody is not just getting touches, but the 'right' kind of touches in the 'right' time and 'right' place. But even during these games, those are just 'moments' for Kobe as he seems to get away from team ball and back to KoME ball. At times it works, at times it doesn't, but why escape it when it's working?

Even tho Kobe was hitting some nice shots in the 2nd half, it was a horrible game to watch, and a horrible selfish exhibition by Kobe.

Thus the Kobe paradox.....

Dr Jekyll and Mr.Hyde

Interesting analysis no really and truly. But what people who are overly critical of Kobe seem to ignore is that he's not a point guard. While running the triangle it makes sense for him to be a facilitator but this team desperately needs a point guard. I don't know why other people don't see it and insist on blaming Kobe. This team has zero shooters, he can pass and be a playmaker but he's not going to magically put the ball in the net for guys like Ron Artest and Fisher. Like Melo it's stupid to use Kobe as a defacto point guard he's at his best being aggressive when he's looking to score. The Lakers used to running the triangle so you can't blame one player for lack of an offensive system and an unbalanced roster.

[SpaceJammeR]

i dont blame him. his teammates couldn't do jack.

[miller-time]

WOW....some people never get tired of saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over:rolleyes:

balances the problem when the shoe is on the other foot. when the lakers get it right kobe gets all the praise. when they get it wrong its everyone elses fault.

[LakersReign]

Interesting analysis no really and truly. But what people who are overly critical of Kobe seem to ignore is that he's not a point guard. While running the triangle it makes sense for him to be a facilitator but this team desperately needs a point guard. I don't know why other people don't see it and insist on blaming Kobe. This team has zero shooters, he can pass and be a playmaker but he's not going to magically put the ball in the net for guys like Ron Artest and Fisher. Like Melo it's stupid to use Kobe as a defacto point guard he's at his best being aggressive when he's looking to score. The Lakers used to running the triangle so you can't blame one player for lack of an offensive system and an unbalanced roster.


That's only cuz they know nothing about basketball to begin with and only watch Laker games to nitpick on everything Kobe does, focusing only on the negative. Every other star player on any other team can do the same thing, but only Kobe gets blamed for everything that goes wrong in the offense and defense. Which is why people don't take them seriously cuz it's obvious they're extremely biased when it comes to Kobe.

[DMAVS41]

Razorblade wouldn't blame Kobe if he shot 1-30. Its quite comical actually.

[hawkfan]

Kobe could sure use JR Smith.
Kobe could handle his knuckleheadness, but that offense would really help out Kobe.

No Lamar is killing him this year.

[LakersReign]

balances the problem when the shoe is on the other foot. when the lakers get it right kobe gets all the praise. when they get it wrong its everyone elses fault.


Dude please GTFOH with that sorry nonsense. Everything's ALWAYS Kobe's fault according to you haters, so stop embarrassing yourself:hammerhead:

[KingLeBronJames]

:lol 1 assist ... good old Kobe.
If nobody else on the team could score then he's not gonna get assists. Bynum sucked, Gasol was so-so, Blake was 2-11, Fisher was terrible and ARtest was 0-2.

[RazorBaLade]

balances the problem when the shoe is on the other foot. when the lakers get it right kobe gets all the praise. when they get it wrong its everyone elses fault.

and whenever the lakers win its all because of pau and the goat coach and the supporting cast and when they lose its all kobes fault.

theres no excuse for any of this idioticness... the thing that just annoys me is that its one or two morons that say zomg kobe 2nd best player of all time and then for the next month its forty different people that gotta criticize the way kobe wipes his ass

[The Choken One]

The guy is shooting 45% on easily the most difficult shots anyone takes in the entire NBA. Now, that is partly his fault as he takes some ridiculous shots, but it's also on his teammates and your a ****tard if you think otherwise.

Besides Bynum & Gasol...no one is offensively capable.

True story.

OP is indeed a dumbass.

[KingLeBronJames]

Razorblade wouldn't blame Kobe if he shot 1-30. Its quite comical actually.
I don't get how you could give Kobe the blame cause his teammates couldn't hit anything.

[RazorBaLade]

Razorblade wouldn't blame Kobe if he shot 1-30. Its quite comical actually.

You can go into the last game thread (if its the game I'm thinking about) and read me say Kobe lost them the game.

I just try to be honest... and I thought kobe played with heart and passion tonight and was fantastic in the 2nd half.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

Kobe pretty much froze the offense. It was just him going 1 on 1. He really needs to involve everyone... it was a pretty pathetic game for the lakers.
Kobe DID get them involved. They just couldn't make shit. :oldlol:

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

Kobe pretty much froze the offense. It was just him going 1 on 1. He really needs to involve everyone... it was a pretty pathetic game for the lakers.
What the hell are you talking about?

[Smoke117]

It's pretty hard to deny that Kobe has been chucking away this season more than he has in a long time. Last night vs the Celtics he almost shot them out of that game. He's lucky Gasol saved the game with that block. 29 shots for 34 pts, 24 shots for 26 pts, 26 shots for 28 points, 23 shots for 20 points in four out of his last five games. You are shooting your team out of the game when you're chucking away like that.

[LakersReign]

What the hell are you talking about?


Half of the idiots in here commenting didn't even bother to watch the game. They pretty much just pulled up the score, and ran in here to say something cuz the Lakers lost. They're just regurgitating stuff they say in another game, to try and make it look like they watch this game, that's all.

[DMAVS41]

You can go into the last game thread (if its the game I'm thinking about) and read me say Kobe lost them the game.

I just try to be honest... and I thought kobe played with heart and passion tonight and was fantastic in the 2nd half.


Yea, but you are so biased its hard for you to be remotely objective. I just find it funny because you keep saying nobody else could do anything. Well, Bynum and Gasol only combined for 18 shots. That simply isn't enough. Especially in a game in which Kobe was ice cold for basically the entire first half.

29 shots is really just way too many if you aren't hot.

But really its just the difference between Kobe fans and normal basketball fans. Not saying you are wrong and I am right or something, but its clearly a differing philosophy on the game.

You always say you want Kobe to keep shooting no matter what. Well, why don't you give other players the same chance. You say Bynum was sucking, but he didn't get the ball enough to get out of his slump....and that is part of the downside of Kobe not running the offense in the 2nd half. It doesn't give any of the other players a chance to get something going.

29 shots is just a lot.....

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

Yea, but you are so biased its hard for you to be remotely objective. I just find it funny because you keep saying nobody else could do anything. Well, Bynum and Gasol only combined for 18 shots. That simply isn't enough. Especially in a game in which Kobe was ice cold for basically the entire first half.

29 shots is really just way too many if you aren't hot.

But really its just the difference between Kobe fans and normal basketball fans. Not saying you are wrong and I am right or something, but its clearly a differing philosophy on the game.

You always say you want Kobe to keep shooting no matter what. Well, why don't you give other players the same chance. You say Bynum was sucking, but he didn't get the ball enough to get out of his slump....and that is part of the downside of Kobe not running the offense in the 2nd half. It doesn't give any of the other players a chance to get something going.

29 shots is just a lot.....
Would Gasol take more shots than he did tonight? He's not an aggressive scorer. He's more passive. You say Bynum need more shots to get out of the slump. Give the ball the Bynum and he'll either turn it over or hog it and try to put up a shot after being double or triple teamed. Just like he did tonight. He doesn't know how to pass it out to teammates when he gets double or tripled.

[RazorBaLade]

Yea, but you are so biased its hard for you to be remotely objective. I just find it funny because you keep saying nobody else could do anything. Well, Bynum and Gasol only combined for 18 shots. That simply isn't enough. Especially in a game in which Kobe was ice cold for basically the entire first half.

29 shots is really just way too many if you aren't hot.

But really its just the difference between Kobe fans and normal basketball fans. Not saying you are wrong and I am right or something, but its clearly a differing philosophy on the game.

You always say you want Kobe to keep shooting no matter what. Well, why don't you give other players the same chance. You say Bynum was sucking, but he didn't get the ball enough to get out of his slump....and that is part of the downside of Kobe not running the offense in the 2nd half. It doesn't give any of the other players a chance to get something going.

29 shots is just a lot.....

It's quite simple, I don't believe it is up to Kobe to make them shoot more. I think its up to them and it is their choice completely. When shaq scored 40 points every game in the playoffs, I did not credit kobe and fisher for giving him the ball... There's something to be said about demanding it in various ways, and also taking it when you can.

The problem is that Pau, just by mentally for his entire career is not going to be a selfish player. I really wish he would be, I think he'd be amazing.. But he can't do it. He passes up open 10 ft jumpers to fisher 3's the ENTIRE game. EVERY game, EVERY year. How come no matter how many times kobe shoots, and its always a different number he always shoots some different number every game... Pau shoots the same amount? No matter what he shoots at the same pace. You'd think there'd be more shots for him if kobe only takes 15 shots in a game but its not true. He can't. Its always 10-20 shots depending on minutes played. Tonight he played 30 min cuz of foul trouble, 10 shots. Last game 40+ min he took 20 or so. Usually he plays 30 min and takes about 13 shots, no matter how many kobe has. pau doesnt shoot more because he doesnt want to shoot more.

for bynum, I don't think he's earned it yet. He can't play out of double teams and if he can't bulldoze people (because say, the other guy is chandler) then he just goes 1-8. This isn't the first time. He got abused by Hibbert as well, he only performs against teams that don't double him (because its an insta-turnover) and against guys that aren't tough. I don't trust him to shoot a lot and on a night like a 1-8 I'd say goddamn give it to someone else.

I think everyone is responsible for their own shots. But thats my philosophy as you said, just wanted to further elaborate on it! My knock on all these great players like cp3 and nash is they are morons for not taking 20 shots a game. It makes no sense to me but its who they are.. and its who pau is. Bynum might be but I don't see him demanding the ball how shaq did.

[Nevaeh]

Would Gasol take more shots than he did tonight? He's not an aggressive scorer. He's more passive. You say Bynum need more shots to get out of the slump. Give the ball the Bynum and he'll either turn it over or hog it and try to put up a shot after being double or triple teamed. Just like he did tonight. He doesn't know how to pass it out to teammates when he gets double or tripled.

Gee, now who does that sound like? :rolleyes:

Kobe goes 1 for friggin ELEVEN: "No No No, just keep shooting, you'll come out of that slump somehow, just keep shooting". Career 45% shooters shouldn't be encouraged to keep chucking, with more efficient players on the team, sorry.

[Bob Cousy]

Im done defending his sporadic play style down the stretch, he gets in this zone where its him vs. his team mates for shot attempts.

[KingLeBronJames]

It's pretty hard to deny that Kobe has been chucking away this season more than he has in a long time. Last night vs the Celtics he almost shot them out of that game. He's lucky Gasol saved the game with that block. 29 shots for 34 pts, 24 shots for 26 pts, 26 shots for 28 points, 23 shots for 20 points in four out of his last five games. You are shooting your team out of the game when you're chucking away like that.
Wait..what? What is your definition of chucking? The spots he shot from and the way he shot the ball against the Celtics down the stretch wasn't chucking. Those were good shots but missed. For example, chucking is like what Kobe did against the Wizards in '03. He was just pulling up 3's. He was making but that's chucking. Those were bad shots but he still made those baskets. Gilbert Arenas chucked up those shots against the Lakers back in '07 and scored 60. The way he shot the ball that night, that's considered chucking. Those examples right there, they way they shot the ball. That's the true definition of chucking.

[Smoke117]

Wait..what? What is your definition of chucking? The spots he shot from and the way he shot the ball against the Celtics down the stretch wasn't chucking. Those were good shots but missed. For example, chucking is like what Kobe did against the Wizards in '03. He was just pulling up 3's. He was making but that's chucking. Those were bad shots but he still made those baskets. Gilbert Arenas chucked up those shots against the Lakers back in '07 and scored 60. The way he shot the ball that night, that's considered chucking. Those examples right there, they way they shot the ball. That's the true definition of chucking.

Those were not good shots, those were almost all heavily defended shots with Ray Allen's hand right in his face. You can't believe that Kobe coming down and taking a fade away with a hand in his face every single time down late in the game and ignoring Bynum and Gasol is a good thing. I didn't really care who won today's game as I hate the Knick's and Celtics equally, but I didn't really get Knicks fans freaking out. Kobe did get hot, but eventually those shots stop falling and you just have to wait it out.

[LakersFan626]

Yea, but you are so biased its hard for you to be remotely objective. I just find it funny because you keep saying nobody else could do anything. Well, Bynum and Gasol only combined for 18 shots. That simply isn't enough. Especially in a game in which Kobe was ice cold for basically the entire first half.

29 shots is really just way too many if you aren't hot.

But really its just the difference between Kobe fans and normal basketball fans. Not saying you are wrong and I am right or something, but its clearly a differing philosophy on the game.

You always say you want Kobe to keep shooting no matter what. Well, why don't you give other players the same chance. You say Bynum was sucking, but he didn't get the ball enough to get out of his slump....and that is part of the downside of Kobe not running the offense in the 2nd half. It doesn't give any of the other players a chance to get something going.

29 shots is just a lot.....

Trying to get the win by yourself when others aren't delivering > Losing but playing as a team.

Until the NBA puts asterisks next to wins where one player scores a huge portion of the points it will always remain that way. It's all about the W and the L. Sometimes I wonder if everybody who wants Kobe to facilitate even when his teammates are doing absolutely nothing are doing it so the Lakers will lose by even more... it wouldn't surprise me.

[NumberSix]

The Lakers just aren't a good team. Kobe is chucking his ass off on a team that has no chance in hell anyways, so who really gives a shit. It's not like he's destroying their shot at a championship. They're an irrelevant team this year. What Kobe does or doesn't do doesn't matter.

[longtime lurker]

The Lakers just aren't a good team. Kobe is chucking his ass off on a team that has no chance in hell anyways, so who really gives a shit. It's not like he's destroying their shot at a championship. They're an irrelevant team this year. What Kobe does or doesn't do doesn't matter.

Sad but true. And to think they're only two moves away really from solving their problems.

[D-Wade316]

Kobe fans clearly don't understand what 'getting teammates involved' means.

Kobe does pass the ball, but it's after he's ran their offense to the floor. I can guarantee that if somebody like Lin joins the Lakers their offense becomes better instantly.

Kobe's insistence on taking every shot and challenging double and triple teams, freezes out the other players and takes away any possible rhythm. So even if they get wide open shots, they come out of the game's flow.

The thing is, when Kobe 'wants' to be a playmaker he's brilliant at it!

The offensive flow is moving because everybody is not just getting touches, but the 'right' kind of touches in the 'right' time and 'right' place. But even during these games, those are just 'moments' for Kobe as he seems to get away from team ball and back to KoME ball. At times it works, at times it doesn't, but why escape it when it's working?

Even tho Kobe was hitting some nice shots in the 2nd half, it was a horrible game to watch, and a horrible selfish exhibition by Kobe.

Thus the Kobe paradox.....

Dr Jekyll and Mr.Hyde
This is so true. :applause:

[NumberSix]

Sad but true. And to think they're only two moves away really from solving their problems.
Hey man, it sucks but they did make the right move. They got the CP3 done, but what can you do? That kinda blew up whatever plans they had. If they had CP3 some some extra money to spend, they could have made some big moves, but it pretty much tanked their season when it got undone.

[gyu]

Lakers fans should realize who Jeremy Lin was playing with. Go double check that roster before complaining about the Lakers.

[NumberSix]

Lakers fans should realize who Jeremy Lin was playing with. Go double check that roster before complaining about the Lakers.
I think we all just got really, really owned.

[NumberSix]

I think we all just got really, really owned.
Lol. Was this really worthy of neg rep? :confusedshrug: Lol @ ISH.

[ace23]

People don't realize how hard it is to even open oneself up for 29 makeable shots. You can't just tell the most efficient player on the team (Bynum) to put up 30 shots when he's not capable of freeing himself up to do so. Chandler locked up his weak spin move everytime down there.

Kobe turns a lot of would-be misses/turnovers into quality shot attempts because of his ability to hit contested jumpers.

The success of the team heavily depends on Kobe's performance, but when Bynum goes 1-8 and nobody else is doing shit, it's hard to come away with a W. 40 shots would have been warranted last night.

[LakersReign]

People don't realize how hard it is to even open oneself up for 29 makeable shots. You can't just tell the most efficient player on the team (Bynum) to put up 30 shots when he's not capable of freeing himself up to do so. Chandler locked up his weak spin move everytime down there.

Kobe turns a lot of would-be misses/turnovers into quality shot attempts because of his ability to hit contested jumpers.

The success of the team heavily depends on Kobe's performance, but when Bynum goes 1-8 and nobody else is doing shit, it's hard to come away with a W. 40 shots would have been warranted last night.


That's cuz they really know nothing about basketball. It's the most stupid thing I've ever seen. Kobe IS the Lakers offense right now, plain and simple. Yet when the team bricks their shots, it's Kobe's fault. When team doesn't play D, it's still Kobe's fault. People who actually knew bastketball would never say idiotic things like that.:hammerhead:

[White Mamba]

lakers had foul problems - gasol 5 bynum 5 barnes 6....who is going to shoot?:oldlol:

[bwink23]

That's cuz they really know nothing about basketball. It's the most stupid thing I've ever seen. Kobe IS the Lakers offense right now, plain and simple. Yet when the team bricks their shots, it's Kobe's fault. When team doesn't play D, it's still Kobe's fault. People who actually knew bastketball would never say idiotic things like that.:hammerhead:


You literally don't know jack shit about basketball, so STFU....:hammerhead:

[LakersReign]

You literally don't know jack shit about basketball, so STFU....:hammerhead:


We already know you(bwink23) literally don't know jack sh*t about basketball mr I'm a Jordan fan, but I still use PER to evaluate players, when Jordan didn't need PER to win 6 titles, so....please tell us something we didn't already know bout your half wit a**:rolleyes:

[Pharcyde]

He dribbles too much. I'm sure Mike Brown being absolutely awful at offense doesn't help either.

[Dave3]

Big difference.
Didn't say it was a big difference, just answering the guy's question.:confusedshrug:

[bwink23]

We already know you(bwink23) literally don't know jack sh*t about basketball mr I'm a Jordan fan, but I still use PER to evaluate players, when Jordan didn't need PER to win 6 titles, so....please tell us something we didn't already know bout your half wit a**:rolleyes:


You are by FAR the biggest moron i have ever seen....what the hell are you even in this forum for??? :hammerhead:

[gyu]

Lol. Was this really worthy of neg rep? :confusedshrug: Lol @ ISH.
I would repp you but I have to wait before I can give more out

[RidonKs]

Kobe fans clearly don't understand what 'getting teammates involved' means.

Kobe does pass the ball, but it's after he's ran their offense to the floor. I can guarantee that if somebody like Lin joins the Lakers their offense becomes better instantly.

Kobe's insistence on taking every shot and challenging double and triple teams, freezes out the other players and takes away any possible rhythm. So even if they get wide open shots, they come out of the game's flow.

The thing is, when Kobe 'wants' to be a playmaker he's brilliant at it!

The offensive flow is moving because everybody is not just getting touches, but the 'right' kind of touches in the 'right' time and 'right' place. But even during these games, those are just 'moments' for Kobe as he seems to get away from team ball and back to KoME ball. At times it works, at times it doesn't, but why escape it when it's working?

Even tho Kobe was hitting some nice shots in the 2nd half, it was a horrible game to watch, and a horrible selfish exhibition by Kobe.

Thus the Kobe paradox.....

Dr Jekyll and Mr.Hyde
+1 summed up to a tee

[RidonKs]

It's quite simple, I don't believe it is up to Kobe to make them shoot more. I think its up to them and it is their choice completely.
and this, the beginning of a post that i can only imagine just got stupider as it went on, is retardedly laughable for so many reasons i'm not even going to bother naming a single one.

[HurricaneKid]

Kobe shoots ~25% more than anyone else in the NBA. Thats AMAZING.

[pegasus]

Kobe shoots ~25% more than anyone else in the NBA. Thats AMAZING.
And warranted most of the time, last night being one.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe last night: 34 points on 11/29
Lebron the last 2 games: 35 points on 11/29

[pegasus]

Kobe last night: 34 points on 11/29
Lebron the last 2 games: 35 points on 11/29
Way to own them:applause:

And I can guarantee you that Lebron's 1 extra point did not come in the fourth quarter:lol

[StateOfMind12]

Kobe last night: 34 points on 11/29
Lebron the last 2 games: 35 points on 11/29
:roll: :applause:

Kobe right now is the league leader in scoring. Why? Because he is a top 2 scorer in the league with Kevin Durant.

[Dave3]

Kobe last night: 34 points on 11/29
Lebron the last 2 games: 35 points on 11/29
Wait, I'm slightly confused. First off, I'll say this thread is useless, because as usual, hating on Kobe for shooting is getting old and comes from people who rarely watch the games...BUT...are you trying to imply that of those two lines, Kobe's is better? You want to say that if 2 people are shooting terribly, it's better to take as many shots as you can in that game, or rather take less shots so you use less of your team's possessions and instead dish out 10 assists.

[Heavincent]

The Lakers just aren't a good team. Kobe is chucking his ass off on a team that has no chance in hell anyways, so who really gives a shit. It's not like he's destroying their shot at a championship. They're an irrelevant team this year. What Kobe does or doesn't do doesn't matter.

Agreed. They have the worst PG in the league, the worst SF in the league, and the worst bench in the league. This team isn't going anywhere.

[pegasus]

Wait, I'm slightly confused. First off, I'll say this thread is useless, because as usual, hating on Kobe for shooting is getting old and comes from people who rarely watch the games...BUT...are you trying to imply that of those two lines, Kobe's is better? You want to say that if 2 people are shooting terribly, it's better to take as many shots as you can in that game, or rather take less shots so you use less of your team's possessions and instead dish out 10 assists.
Did you watch the game last night? Kobe shot 2 for 11 in the first half, so you're saying that he should have stopped taking shots and passed more in the second half? Had he done that (which he still partially did, passing that is, but his teammates could not hit an elephant with a cannon), they would have lost by at least 20.

It's not like Kobe has a Wade on his side, whom he can defer to when he is off. They throw it inside first usually, and if Gasol and Bynum can't do anything, they kick it out, and it's Kobe's 1-on-2 or 3 time. They are lucky he can still create and make difficult shots better than everyone in the league.

[brownmamba00]

Agreed. They have the worst PG in the league, the worst SF in the league, and the worst bench in the league. This team isn't going anywhere.
And add the dumbest coach in the league to that too. I mean what coach in his right mind would give Troy ****ing Murphy 25min of PT?

[Dave3]

Did you watch the game last night? Kobe shot 2 for 11 in the first half, so you're saying that he should have stopped taking shots and passed more in the second half? Had he done that (which he still partially did, passing that is, but his teammates could not hit an elephant with a cannon), they would have lost by at least 20.

It's not like Kobe has a Wade on his side, whom he can defer to when he is off. They throw it inside first usually, and if Gasol and Bynum can't do anything, they kick it out, and it's Kobe's 1-on-2 or 3 time. They are lucky he can still create and make difficult shots better than everyone in the league.
I did watch the game. He went 1-11 in the first half, then got hot in the 3rd, then cooled down again a bit in the 4th. My point isn't he shouldn't keep shooting after being 1-11. My point is he should start mixing it up once he's like 1-6 or 1-7, not keep shooting until he gets to 1-11. I did watch the game and I saw Bynum was struggling, but I also saw that Kobe was holding on to the ball too long until he was double teamed and the offense was out of balance. My point is start giving up the ball early, moving it around both early in the shotclock, and early in the game, so you never reach a point where you're 1-11, and need to play really well just to have a decent shooting game. Imagine if Kobe moved the ball around after going 1-6, then had his hot 3rd quarter. He would've ended up maybe 7-15 instead of 7-20. Considering how close of a game it was at the end, what happened on those 5 extra possessions could have been the difference between a win and a loss.

[pegasus]

I did watch the game. He went 1-11 in the first half, then got hot in the 3rd, then cooled down again a bit in the 4th. My point isn't he shouldn't keep shooting after being 1-11. My point is he should start mixing it up once he's like 1-6 or 1-7, not keep shooting until he gets to 1-11. I did watch the game and I saw Bynum was struggling, but I also saw that Kobe was holding on to the ball too long until he was double teamed and the offense was out of balance. My point is start giving up the ball early, moving it around both early in the shotclock, and early in the game, so you never reach a point where you're 1-11, and need to play really well just to have a decent shooting game. Imagine if Kobe moved the ball around after going 1-6, then had his hot 3rd quarter. He would've ended up maybe 7-15 instead of 7-20. Considering how close of a game it was at the end, what happened on those 5 extra possessions could have been the difference between a win and a loss.

They lost because they couldn't get a defensive rebound to save their lives late in the game.

Your hypothetical points supposedly coming from Bynum in the first half when he played horribly all night long, would have had nothing to do with the outcome of the game.

[Dave3]

They lost because they couldn't get a defensive rebound to save their lives late in the game.

Your hypothetical points supposedly coming from Bynum in the first half when he played horribly all night long, would have had nothing to do with the outcome of the game.
There are a lot more than just one reason why a team lost. You're grossly over simplifying it. Other reasons include them being unable to stop Jeremy, some no calls against Bynum (that's every game), Gasol not getting more shots in this game, as well as some poor shot selection by Kobe. No one should be saying that Kobe's missed shots lost the game for the Lakers, but to say that maybe if he took a few less shots when he was struggling wouldn't have helped is as narrow minded as the premise of this thread.

And points that come in the first half do in fact affect the outcome of the game. That's why the first half is played. Scores aren't just taken from the last 2 minutes of every game to determine the winner.

[andgar923]

Kobe fans- "Kobe should keep shooting more regardless"
Kobe detractors- "he should pass the ball more"

Again, the Kobe paradox.

Kobe at times gets into a scoring mode and it's a one track mentality that whether they win or lose, demoralizes his teammates more than any defense could.

Obviously some people here have never played basketball in their life, because they would understand what it's like playing with a ball hog.

My main criticism on Kobe is that most of the time there's no middle ground with Kobe. It's either or

Score or pass

And by passing I don't mean "I'm trapped I can't go anywhere, I can't get a good shot off, so I have no f*ckin option but to pass it and then demand the ball". By passing I mean running something that resembles a f*ckin offense.

We know Kobe is the most versatile/prolific/multi skilled perimeter scorer since MJ, only fools believe otherwise. But this is why many of us say he's overrated as a 'player' because he's just too unwilling to be a complete balanced player.

[Bandito]

I only watch the second half because I fell asleep. Usually when I get to the point when im screaming 'pass it to Kobe dammit' that pretty much means the team ain't doing crap. What i saw from this team was everybody sucking except for Kobe. If he's chucking up shots for no reason I'll be the first to say so but in this game it didn't necessarily happen lol.

[LakersReign]

I only watch the second half because I fell asleep. Usually when I get to the point when im screaming 'pass it to Kobe dammit' that pretty much means the team ain't doing crap. What i saw from this team was everybody sucking except for Kobe. If he's chucking up shots for no reason I'll be the first to say so but in this game it didn't necessarily happen lol.

The morons see what they want to see, so it makes no sense trying to apply reason to their one sided hater logic.:rolleyes:

[bwink23]

The morons see what they want to see, so it makes no sense trying to apply reason to their one sided hater logic.:rolleyes:


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[pegasus]

There are a lot more than just one reason why a team lost. You're grossly over simplifying it. Other reasons include them being unable to stop Jeremy, some no calls against Bynum (that's every game), Gasol not getting more shots in this game, as well as some poor shot selection by Kobe. No one should be saying that Kobe's missed shots lost the game for the Lakers, but to say that maybe if he took a few less shots when he was struggling wouldn't have helped is as narrow minded as the premise of this thread.

And points that come in the first half do in fact affect the outcome of the game. That's why the first half is played. Scores aren't just taken from the last 2 minutes of every game to determine the winner.
But you're assuming that Bynum would have scored on those hypothetical passes from Kobe, but in reality he shot 1 for 8, so you have no reason to believe that the Lakers wold have wound up with more points on the scoreboard at the end of the first half.

Gasol was better and received the ball a lot more, but he couldn't back Chandler down. Heck, he even lost the ball when he was guarded by Novak.

The reason Kobe got hot, because he kept shooting.

[gyu]

But you're assuming that Bynum would have scored on those hypothetical passes from Kobe, but in reality he shot 1 for 8, so you have no reason to believe that the Lakers wold have wound up with more points on the scoreboard at the end of the first half.

Gasol was better and received the ball a lot more, but he couldn't back Chandler down. Heck, he even lost the ball when he was guarded by Novak.

The reason Kobe got hot, because he kept shooting.
So you don't give Bynum the ball anymore because he went 1-8? Kobe was something like 1-12 and still kept shooting.
Also, just because Gasol loses the ball once against Novak you never let him touch the ball again? That just destroys confidence.

Lastly, I will repeat this again:
Before you complain about the Lakers team, look at who Jeremy Lin was playing with...

You Lakers fan really are just too spoiled, once Kobe retires you guys will have to learn to be more humble about things.

[LakersReign]

So you don't give Bynum the ball anymore because he went 1-8? Kobe was something like 1-12 and still kept shooting.
Also, just because Gasol loses the ball once against Novak you never let him touch the ball again? That just destroys confidence.

Lastly, I will repeat this again:
Before you complain about the Lakers team, look at who Jeremy Lin was playing with...

You Lakers fan really are just too spoiled, once Kobe retires you guys will have to learn to be more humble about things.

You haters need to learn to stop making stupid statements like that assuming EVERYBODY is a bandwagon fan, simply cuz that's exactly what you are. Been a Laker fan since WAY before Shaq and Kobe, which again makes your general stupid statement not apply to people like me, but also makes you look extremely misinformed, talking about things you clearly know nothing about:facepalm

[bwink23]

You haters need to learn to stop making stupid statements like that assuming EVERYBODY is a bandwagon fan, simply cuz that's exactly what you are. Been a Laker fan since WAY before Shaq and Kobe, which again makes your general stupid statement not apply to people like me, but also makes you look extremely misinformed, talking about things you clearly know nothing about:facepalm


Isn't this the only thing you ever state in 90% of your posts....:rolleyes:

[Simple Jack]

But you're assuming that Bynum would have scored on those hypothetical passes from Kobe, but in reality he shot 1 for 8, so you have no reason to believe that the Lakers wold have wound up with more points on the scoreboard at the end of the first half.

Gasol was better and received the ball a lot more, but he couldn't back Chandler down. Heck, he even lost the ball when he was guarded by Novak.

The reason Kobe got hot, because he kept shooting.

Wasn't your main criticism of the Cle-Orlando series in 09 that Bron froze out his teammates and it wasn't actually them playing bad, it was because they didn't get enough touches? It's pretty hard to win when you don't get consistent output from your supporting cast, right?

[gyu]

You haters need to learn to stop making stupid statements like that assuming EVERYBODY is a bandwagon fan, simply cuz that's exactly what you are. Been a Laker fan since WAY before Shaq and Kobe, which again makes your general stupid statement not apply to people like me, but also makes you look extremely misinformed, talking about things you clearly know nothing about:facepalm
I'm a bandwagon of what?
Surely if it doesn't apply to you, you could have just said so instead of PMSing.
Do you agree with a lot of the Lakers fans on this board saying Gasol, Bynum, Metta, Barnes, Blake, Fisher, all suck?
Because I'm sure 80% of the league wished they had those guys on their team.

[RazorBaLade]

So you don't give Bynum the ball anymore because he went 1-8? Kobe was something like 1-12 and still kept shooting.
Also, just because Gasol loses the ball once against Novak you never let him touch the ball again? That just destroys confidence.

Lastly, I will repeat this again:
Before you complain about the Lakers team, look at who Jeremy Lin was playing with...

You Lakers fan really are just too spoiled, once Kobe retires you guys will have to learn to be more humble about things.

Like I lengthily posted earlier, shaq never finished a game in his prime with 8 shots and I wasn't praising Kobe for being such a willing passer and selfless player then, and I ain't gonna criticize him for BYNUM choosing to shoot less.

You could see a CLEAR lack of willingness to get the ball in the 4th after he was abused all game, pau never takes shots over his average no matter how many times kobe shoots, so yeah... Kobe doesn't get to decide how much bynum shoots. It is moronic to think that. Pau had the ball plenty of times, if he wants to be more than a 4th quarter screen setter maybe when you get the ball you can attack like he does when he wants to score. Simple. Bynum needs to learn how to score when he can't push people away easily and to pass out of double teams..

[LakersReign]

I'm a bandwagon of what?
Surely if it doesn't apply to you, you could have just said so instead of PMSing.
Do you agree with a lot of the Lakers fans on this board saying Gasol, Bynum, Metta, Barnes, Blake, Fisher, all suck?
Because I'm sure 80% of the league wished they had those guys on their team.


The only person here PMSing is you, making stupid statements about things you clearly know nothing about. You made a general statement about ALL Laker fans that DOES NOT apply. Your statement SHOULD HAVE been SOME .....Laker fans, but you didn't specify. If you don't know about something, then don't try and act like you do, cuz you'll just make yourself look stupid like you previously did:facepalm

[Human Error]

Lol at Kobe fans justifying Kobe's 29 shot attempts and putting all the blames on Bynum's 1 for 8 shooting from the field. But if you had watched the game, I know most of you guys had, Kobe was 1 for 9 to start the game and was playing as bad as any Laker out there.

[RazorBaLade]

Lol at Kobe fans justifying Kobe's 29 shot attempts and putting all the blames on Bynum's 1 for 8 shooting from the field. But if you had watched the game, I know most of you guys had, Kobe was 1 for 9 to start the game and was playing as bad as any Laker out there.

I don't blame the LOSS on bynums shooting, the entire team shot poorly. Clearly anytime shoots 1-8 its not good enough but I mean it was just a bad game for everyone really. I defend kobes right to shoot 29 times because he was 10-17 from the field in the 2nd half and he was able to correct that poor shooting while no one really was able to.

[bwink23]

I don't blame the LOSS on bynums shooting, the entire team shot poorly. Clearly anytime shoots 1-8 its not good enough but I mean it was just a bad game for everyone really. I defend kobes right to shoot 29 times because he was 10-17 from the field in the 2nd half and he was able to correct that poor shooting while no one really was able to.


Of course he was able to...he got to shoot 29 times, DERRR!!!! :hammerhead:

[RazorBaLade]

Of course he was able to...he got to shoot 29 times, DERRR!!!! :hammerhead:

I don't think shooting 29 times guarantees you go on a 10-17 ish stretch.

[bwink23]

I don't think shooting 29 times guarantees you go on a 10-17 ish stretch.


Shooting 8 times in a game doesn't guarantee much of anything....:hammerhead:

[dynasty1978]

Looking at this thread, there seems to be an even presence of Lebron lovers, Kobe fans, and real Laker fans who actually know that the team's flaws go far beyond shot distribution.

Only the latter is making any sense.

[RazorBaLade]

Shooting 8 times in a game doesn't guarantee much of anything....:hammerhead:

well maybe he would have gotten some more shots off if he wasn't pushed off the block by chandler all game long

the only person to blame for someone not shooting is the person that didnt shoot as long as a sizable amount of minutes were played. period.