Top 10 Players in the NBA Right Now

[RRR3]

Based upon the season so far

My list
1. LeBron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Kevin Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Derrick Rose
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Russell Westbrook
9. LaMarcus Aldridge
10. Kevin Love


Who do you have?

[guy]

1. Derrick Rose
2. Jeremy Lin
3-10. Don't care

[Bob Cousy]

LeBron
Kobe/Durant (interchangeable)
Rose
Howard
Wade
Anthony
Love
Aldridge
Griffin
Granger
*Paul (consistency)

[Clutch]

1. Jeremy Lin

No one cares about the others

[RRR3]

LeBron
Kobe/Durant (interchangeable)
Rose
Howard
Wade
Anthony
Love
Aldridge
Griffin
Granger
*Paul (consistency)
:wtf: Explain please.

[demons2005]

LeBron
Kobe/Durant (interchangeable)
Rose
Howard
Wade
Anthony
Love
Aldridge
Griffin
Granger
*Paul (consistency)
If you're including consistancy I don't see how you put Paul ahead of guy like Westbrook, Rondo, Nash, Bosh, etc. Seems like people always judge Paul by his best games only and ignore the rest. Probably because he only shows up to games that are televised. He just doesn't put the effort in vs the Wizards and Cavs of the league for me to include him in the top 15. Top 15 players respect the game and even Lebron you don't see him take the night off so to speak just because they are playing a bad team.

[Bob Cousy]

If you're including consistancy I don't see how you put Paul ahead of guy like Westbrook, Rondo, Nash, Bosh, etc. Seems like people always judge Paul by his best games only and ignore the rest. Probably because he only shows up to games that are televised. He just doesn't put the effort in vs the Wizards and Cavs of the league for me to include him in the top 15. Top 15 players respect the game and even Lebron you don't see him take the night off so to speak just because they are playing a bad team.
I wanted to put Westbrook but you're exactly right. Paul's best games automatically elevate to top 10 for me, its a shame I know.

but he's that good when playing with effort.

[DStebb716]

1. Kobe Bryant
2. LeBron James
3. Kevin Durant
4. Derrick Rose
5. Dwight Howard
6. Carmelo Anthony
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Kevin Love
9. LaMarcus Aldridge
10. Blake Griffin


Just through those up quick without too much thought. I'd stick with Kobe at number one with thought. The way the guy is playing right now offensively AND defensively is just amazing.

[demons2005]

1. Kobe Bryant
2. LeBron James
3. Kevin Durant
4. Derrick Rose
5. Dwight Howard
6. Carmelo Anthony
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Kevin Love
9. LaMarcus Aldridge
10. Blake Griffin


Just through those up quick without too much thought. I'd stick with Kobe at number one with thought. The way the guy is playing right now offensively AND defensively is just amazing.
This is an excellent list if you're factoring in Rose's injuries. I'm not a big Lebron fan but I have to admit he's always been pretty good for 3/4 of the regular season.

[NastyCrossover1]

1. Derrick Rose
2. LeBron James
3. Durant
4. Bryant
5. Howard
6. Wade
7. Griffin
8. Chris Paul
9. Dirk
10. John Wall

[Killbot]

1. Jeremy Lin

No one cares about the others

This.

[NastyCrossover1]

Based upon the season so far

My list
1. LeBron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Kevin Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Derrick Rose
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Russell Westbrook
9. LaMarcus Aldridge
10. Kevin Love


Who do you have?

How do you have Love and Aldridge > Griffin and Dirk?

[Scholar]

1. LeBron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Kevin Durant
4. Derrick Rose
5. Steve Nash (only reason most of you guys aren't including him is because he plays on a terrible team)
6. Dwight Howard (so many 20-20 games already! Damn!)
7. Dwyane Wade (came back from that injury strong)
8. Russell Westbrook
9. Kevin Love
10. Jeremy Lin


Maybe it's not fair to place Lin in the top 10, but he's been playing at a top 5 level. Only reason he's not higher than 10 is because he just started. If he can keep it up for a few more games, he'll easily surpass most of the guys on the top 10 list.

[scm5]

1. Lebron
2. Kobe
3. Dwight
4. Durant
5. Rose
6. CP3
7. Blake
8. Westbrook
9. Love
10. Wade

If Lin performs like he has been for an entire month, which would be impressive given the condensed season. I would definitely move him into a Top 10 player.... but only if he's able to keep up what he's been doing in the past 5 games. The dude has been that good.

[Jotaro Durant]

durant
lebron
paul
kobe
dwight
wade
rose
griffin
westbrook
love

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Based upon the season so far

My list
1. LeBron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Kevin Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Derrick Rose
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Russell Westbrook
9. LaMarcus Aldridge
10. Kevin Love


Who do you have?

1. Lebron
2. Dwight
3. CP3
4. KD
5. D-Wade
6. D-Rose
7. Kobe
8. Kevin Love
9. Griff
10. Aldridge

[Alamo]

1. Lebron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Derrick Rose
4. Kevin Durant
5. Dwight Howard
6. Chris Paul
7. Russell Westbrook
8. Kevin Love
9. Dwyane Wade
10. Blake Griffin

[LA_Showtime]

Jeremy Lin. This has been a pretty disappoint season thus far, but that dude is a baller. Who knew the next name to capture the hearts of America would be an undrafted player from Harvard?

[Fudge]

LeBron
Durant
Kobe
Dwight
Rose
CP3
Wade
Griffin
Love
Aldridge

[MMM]

1 LeBron
2 Kobe
3 Durant
4 Wade
5 Howard
6 healthy Dirk
7 Rose
8 Paul
9 D. Williams
10 Love

[TheSilentKiller]

1. Jeremy Lin

No one cares about the others

QFT

[demons2005]

wtf when did CP become a consensus top 5 player? "what have your teammates done for me lately" seems to be the new trend on this board. He is averaging 18/3/9, all below his career average and is not even the best player on his own team.

Amazing how much less he has to do to get the same consideration of other players. maybe because you sympathize with him being short like yall?

[kurple]

Lebron
Durant
Rose
Greg Popovic
Paul
Kobe
Dwight
Wade
Melo
LMA/Griffin/Love

[Rnbizzle]

Lebron
Durant
Kobe
Rose
Paul
Wade
Dwight
Melo
Love
Griffin/Aldridge/Bosh

[Bob Cousy]

wtf when did CP become a consensus top 5 player? "what have your teammates done for me lately" seems to be the new trend on this board. He is averaging 18/3/9, all below his career average and is not even the best player on his own team.

Amazing how much less he has to do to get the same consideration of other players. maybe because you sympathize with him being short like yall?
I'm seeing people list Paul above Kobe, and some people don't even have Kobe in their top 5.:facepalm

these pseudo-hardcore basketball fans are a joke. Go play on your house league teams children.

[kurple]

Lebron
Durant
Kobe
Rose
Paul
Wade
Melo
Love
Griffin/Aldridge/Bosh
you dont like dwight :lol

[Heavincent]

1. Lebron
2. Dwight
3. CP3
4. KD
5. D-Wade
6. D-Rose
7. Kobe
8. Kevin Love
9. Griff
10. Aldridge

Wade above Kobe :roll: :roll:

[Heavincent]

Anyway...

1.) Kobe
2.) Lebron
3.) Durant
4.) Dwight
5.) CP3
6.) Rose (would be higher if he didn't get injured)
7.) Kevin Love
8.) Russell Westbrook
9.) Blake Griffin
10.) Aldridge/Wade/Rondo

[Out_In_Utah]

even Lebron you don't see him take the night off so to speak just because they are playing a bad team.

Yeah, he waits until the Finals to do that.

[alenleomessi]

surprised to see blake in so many top 10 lists...

[bmulls]

Everyone disrespecting Dirk, he's been beasting the last 2 weeks

[pauk]

1. LeBron James
*GAP*
2. Dwight Howard
3. Kevin Durant
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Dwyane Wade
6. Dirk Nowitzki
7. Chris Paul
8. Derrick Rose
9. Russell Westbrook
10. Kevin Love / Monta Ellis / Lamarcus Aldridge / Deron Williams

[Bigsmoke]

LeBron and CP3 are one and two as of right now.

that doesnt mean its gonna finish this way but i'm impressed with CP3 closing abilities/clutch plays and turning around the Clippers gives him the #2 spot.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Wade above Kobe :roll: :roll:

:confusedshrug:

#1-3 for me are pretty much indisputable, but 4-7 are definitely interchangeable. If you think Kobe has been better, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. What Wade has done since coming back from injury is pretty note-worthy.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01/gamelog/2012/

[tikay0]

1) derrick rose
2) jeremy lin


who the fugg cares.

[pegasus]

1. LeBron James
*GAP*
2. Dwight Howard
3. Kevin Durant
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Dwyane Wade
6. Dirk Nowitzki
7. Chris Paul
8. Derrick Rose
9. Russell Westbrook
10. Kevin Love / Monta Ellis / Lamarcus Aldridge / Deron Williams

Gap your ass.

[pauk]

Gap your ass.

Is that a proposal? :D

[Heavincent]

:confusedshrug:

#1-3 for me are pretty much indisputable, but 4-7 are definitely interchangeable. If you think Kobe has been better, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. What Wade has done since coming back from injury is pretty note-worthy.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01/gamelog/2012/

It's stupid to put Wade above Kobe though. He played like crap to start out the season, then he sat out like a month with a sore ankle or something. Yes, he's played well for the last few games, but you're gonna put him above Kobe just because of that? Kobe has had more than a few great games this season.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It's stupid to put Wade above Kobe though. He played like crap to start out the season, then he sat out like a month with a sore ankle or something. Yes, he's played well for the last few games, but you're gonna put him above Kobe just because of that? Kobe has had more than a few great games this season.

Yeah, well you think Kobe has been the best player in the league. I don't think you should be calling anyone "stupid" lol.

As I said, we'll agree to disagree.

[Fudge]

It's stupid to put Wade above Kobe though. He played like crap to start out the season, then he sat out like a month with a sore ankle or something. Yes, he's played well for the last few games, but you're gonna put him above Kobe just because of that? Kobe has had more than a few great games this season.
You haven't noticed that you're entering a debate with a cHeat fan? Go for it. If you're interested in wasting a few hours to (try) and make em face reality then by all means go for it. :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

As I said, we'll agree to disagree.

Wade has like no legit case over Kobe, but whatever.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

You haven't noticed that you're entering a debate with a cHeat fan? Go for it. If you're interested in wasting a few hours to (try) and make em face reality then by all means go for it. :oldlol:

Far from a Miami Heat fan. Next guess? Player rankings are purely subjective, asswipe. :oldlol:

[pegasus]

Is that a proposal? :D

No, but yours is an answer to some of my questions.

[Fudge]

Far from a Miami Heat fan. Next guess? Player rankings are purely subjective, asswipe. :oldlol:
Speaking of wiping ass, who's turn is it for you to wipe today? BronBrons or Whistles? :confusedshrug:

[Celtics4ever]

1. Rose
2. Durant
3. LeBron
4. Kobe
5. Dwight
6. Wade
.
.
.
12. CP3(Anyone putting CP3 anywhere in their Top 10 is pretty stupid)

[Bigsmoke]

1. Rose
2. Durant
3. LeBron
4. Kobe
5. Dwight
6. Wade
.
.
.
12. CP3(Anyone putting CP3 anywhere in there Top 10 is pretty stupid)

lol this *****

[Celtics4ever]

LeBron and CP3 are one and two as of right now.

that doesnt mean its gonna finish this way but i'm impressed with CP3 closing abilities/clutch plays and turning around the Clippers gives him the #2 spot.

Flcukin idiot, didn't you admit you were gay on ISH? No wonder you are always up CP3's a$$. Flcukin f@gg

[Celtics4ever]

lol this *****

This f@ggott

[All Net]

1- James James
2- Kevin durant
3- Dwyane wade
4- Dwight Howard
5-Kobe Bryant
6- Dirk nowitzki
7- Derrick rose
8- chris Paul
9- Russell Westbrook
10- Kevin Love

[Heavincent]

1- James James
2- Kevin durant
3- Dwyane wade
4- Dwight Howard
5-Kobe Bryant
6- Dirk nowitzki
7- Derrick rose
8- chris Paul
9- Russell Westbrook
10- Carmelo Anthony

Based on this season? How in the world is Wade #3?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Speaking of wiping ass, who's turn is it for you to wipe today? BronBrons or Whistles? :confusedshrug:

Does your Mother know you are wearing her training bra?

[Bigsmoke]

Flcukin idiot, didn't you admit you were gay on ISH? No wonder you are always up CP3's a$$. Flcukin f@gg

:sleeping

[Rnbizzle]

you dont like dwight :lol
Editted. :cheers:

[All Net]

Based on this season? How in the world is Wade #3?

If I was basing this purely on this season dirk wouldn't make the list at all.

Injury is the only reason why wade isn't considered that high but a heathly wade is still a top 3 player to me.

[Fudge]

Does your Mother know you are wearing her training bra?
:confusedshrug:

You didn't answer my question.

[Heavincent]

If I was basing his purely on this season dirk wouldn't make the list at all.

Injury is the only reason why wade isn't considered that high but a heathly wade is still a top 3 player.

But the OP said to base it on this season.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

:confusedshrug:

You didn't answer my question.

Thought I'd shoot a rhetorical question right back at you.

:cheers:

[TheMan]

1.LBJ

2.Kobe
3.Rose
4.Durant
5.Howard
6.Wade
7.KLove
8.Melo
9.Paul
10.Griffin

2-6 is basically interchangeable but Bronsy is playing lights out...doesn't bode well fer my Bulls:(

[Bob Cousy]

I love how everyone is calling the dude a **** and he's not denying it :confusedshrug:

shit got real, real quick.

[Fudge]

Thought I'd shoot a rhetorical question right back at you.

:cheers:
Mine wasn't rhetorical though. :D

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Mine wasn't rhetorical though. :D

Whats plugging you from behind? Anothor homeless man you got stuck ass eating off a dare? :confusedshrug:

YOUR TURN..!

[Fudge]

Whats plugging you from behind? Anothor homeless man you got stuck ass eating off a dare? :confusedshrug:

YOUR TURN..!
:sleeping

Answer mine first, and i'll get right to that one.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

:sleeping

Answer mine first, and i'll get right to that one.

You're not very good at this game. Later fudgepacker

[luigi11209]

Anyone without Lebron in the number one is a troll.

[Heavincent]

Anyone without Lebron in the number one is a troll.

Shut up.

[RRR3]

Shut up.
He's right though LeBron is clearly the best player right now.

[Heavincent]

He's right though LeBron is clearly the best player right now.

Not clearly.

I don't even really give a shit about the regular season anyway. Call me when Lebron shows up in the Finals.

[RRR3]

Not clearly.

I don't even really give a shit about the regular season anyway. Call me when Lebron shows up in the Finals.
Yes clearly to anyone who's not biased against LBJ.

[Heavincent]

Yes clearly to anyone who's not biased against LBJ.

Wrong.

[RRR3]

Wrong.
Why don't you tell me why he's not the best w/o any of the typical "RANGZ!" crap? Oh wait you can't. :sleeping

[Deuce Bigalow]

He's right though LeBron is clearly the best player right now.
you're talking first 3 quarters right?

[I.R.Beast]

I wanted to put Westbrook but you're exactly right. Paul's best games automatically elevate to top 10 for me, its a shame I know.

but he's that good when playing with effort.

J.R. smith is the probably the deadliest scorier in the league when playing with "effort"...it's about consistency....chris paul will have just as many par-subpar games as he will good-great games.....

[I.R.Beast]

1. Durant
2. LeBron
3. Kobe
4. Wade
5. Rose
6.Howard
7.Westbrook
8. Love
9. Aldridge
10. Blake Griffin

[Heavincent]

Why don't you tell me why he's not the best w/o any of the typical "RANGZ!" crap? Oh wait you can't. :sleeping

He struggles in the half court offense when his jump shot isn't falling. Kobe, on the other hand, has a much more polished game offensively, thus he doesn't have any weaknesses like that. I know Lebron has high FG% and bla bla bla but anybody that actually watches the games knows that Kobe has a wider array of moves at his disposal and is a better shooter than Lebron.

It's very close, but I give Kobe a slight edge. It can go either way though.

[christian1923]

1 Kobe
2 Lebron
3 Rose
4 Wade
5 dwight
6 Cp3
7 Dirk
8 Durant
9 Lin
10 Klove

[TheNaturalWR]

Not clearly.

I don't even really give a shit about the regular season anyway. Call me when Lebron shows up in the Finals.

If you're gonna use the Finals as an argument point than Wade is the best player which you're clearly against. Lets not act like Kobe was any where near dominant in any of the Finals he was in. LeBron is clearly the best in the game right now.

[RRR3]

He struggles in the half court offense when his jump shot isn't falling. Kobe, on the other hand, has a much more polished game offensively, thus he doesn't have any weaknesses like that. I know Lebron has high FG% and bla bla bla but anybody that actually watches the games knows that Kobe has a wider array of moves at his disposal and is a better shooter than Lebron.

It's very close, but I give Kobe a slight edge. It can go either way though.
IF you hadn't noticed, LeBron actually has a post game now. He's been a better 3PT shooter than Kobe for the last few years so...Kobe is better at midrange but it's not like LeBron isn't a great midrange shooter either. Plus, LeBron has MUCH better shot selection, is a way better passer and playmaker, a better defender and rebounder, and a better scorer at this point in time than Kobe (Kobe is older, and LeBron doesn't look to score the way Kobe does. He has to share with Wade, you saw how much he scores w/o Wade). Also who the hell cares what "move" Kobe uses if it just leads to a brick?

[Heavincent]

IF you hadn't noticed, LeBron actually has a post game now. He's been a better 3PT shooter than Kobe for the last few years so...Kobe is better at midrange but it's not like LeBron isn't a great midrange shooter either. Plus, LeBron has MUCH better shot selection, is a way better passer and playmaker, a better defender and rebounder, and a better scorer at this point in time than Kobe (Kobe is older, and LeBron doesn't look to score the way Kobe does. He has to share with Wade, you saw how much he scores w/o Wade). Also who the hell cares what "move" Kobe uses if it just leads to a brick?

You're forgetting that what Kobe is asked to do on offense is more difficult than what Lebron has to do. Lebron is struggling with his shot? Just pass it to Wade, Bosh, or Chalmers/Miller/Battier.

Perimeter defenses literally put all of their attention on Kobe. They double/triple team him for pretty much the entire game, but when Kobe kicks it out to open teammates on the perimeter, they just chuck up bricks. If Kobe had somewhat decent shooters to pass to, he would probably average 8 assists a game or so.

44% is pretty damn good considering how difficult his role is. He can't stop shooting, even if his shot isn't falling, because his teammates just can't make open shots.

[Tenchi Ryu]

1.Lebron
2.Kobe
3a.Rose
3b.Durant
5.CP3
6.Wade
7.Howard
8.Westbrook
9.Griffin
10. Iggy/LA

[RRR3]

You're forgetting that what Kobe is asked to do on offense is more difficult than what Lebron has to do. Lebron is struggling with his shot? Just pass it to Wade, Bosh, or Chalmers/Miller/Battier.

Perimeter defenses literally put all of their attention on Kobe. They double/triple team him for pretty much the entire game, but when Kobe kicks it out to open teammates on the perimeter, they just chuck up bricks. If Kobe had somewhat decent shooters to pass to, he would probably average 8 assists a game or so.

44% is pretty damn good considering how difficult his role is. He can't stop shooting, even if his shot isn't falling, because his teammates just can't make open shots.
He kills ball movement which is why his teammates get out of rhythm a lot of the time. LOL @ Kobe having no one to pass to. Sure, he doesn't have perimeter options. But he has two great options in the post does he not?

[Heavincent]

He kills ball movement which is why his teammates get out of rhythm a lot of the time. LOL @ Kobe having no one to pass to. Sure, he doesn't have perimeter options. But he has two great options in the post does he not?

Get out of rhythm? Give me a break. Fisher, World Peace, Blake, Murphy, and Barnes get WIDE open shots the entire ****ing game. You want those guys to get more shots? lol

Kobe gets the ball to Bynum and Pau plenty. Why do you think they both average more than 15 points a game? The problem is on the perimeter, where teams just ignore Fisher/Blake/WP/Murphy/Barnes and double/triple team Kobe. The fact that Kobe averages 29 points a game is ridiculous considering how he has to take so many impossible shots due to being smothered by double teams the entire game.

[zizozain]

:confusedshrug:

You didn't answer my question.
he's a lebrick stan who hates kobe .. ignore him

btw he 2 had minor strokes when kobe won 2 rings and 2 FMVP's

[RRR3]

Get out of rhythm? Give me a break. Fisher, World Peace, Blake, Murphy, and Barnes get WIDE open shots the entire ****ing game. You want those guys to get more shots? lol

Kobe gets the ball to Bynum and Pau plenty. Why do you think they both average more than 15 points a game? The problem is on the perimeter, where teams just ignore Fisher/Blake/WP/Murphy/Barnes and double/triple team Kobe. The fact that Kobe averages 29 points a game is ridiculous considering how he has to take so many impossible shots due to being smothered by double teams the entire game.
I never said Kobe should pass to Fisher or World Peace. Barnes he should only pass to when Barnes is cutting cuz Barnes can't shoot. Blake can hit open threes now and then but he's too inconsistent to be passed to consistently. He should pass to Murphy if he is open for 3 tho Murphy can shoot.

[Heavincent]

He should pass to Murphy if he is open for 3 tho Murphy can shoot.

Uh, he does, and he misses it most of the most of the time.

[RRR3]

Uh, he does, and he misses it most of the most of the time.
Murphy is shooting 42.1% from three. That's excellent. I didn't say he should pass to Murphy a lot, I said when he's open to three. Put LeBron on the Lakers and they would have a better record. True story.

[Heavincent]

Murphy is shooting 42.1% from three. That's excellent. I didn't say he should pass to Murphy a lot, I said when he's open to three. Put LeBron on the Lakers and they would have a better record. True story.

I've seen Murphy miss countless wide open mid-range shots.

And no they wouldn't. No way in hell. In fact, they'd probably be worse with Lebron instead of Kobe since he's not as good as creating his own shot.

[RRR3]

I've seen Murphy miss countless wide open mid-range shots.

And no they wouldn't. No way in hell. In fact, they'd probably be worse with Lebron instead of Kobe since he's not as good as creating his own shot.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Heavincent]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Using this as a substitute for your lack of an argument?

Okay then.

[RRR3]

Using this as a substitute for your lack of an argument?

Okay then.
What the hell? It's pointless arguing with Kobe stans, they think his farts are made of solid gold. I don't know why I bother...

[Heavincent]

What the hell? It's pointless arguing with Kobe stans, they think his farts are made of solid gold. I don't know why I bother...

Okay, why would the Lakers be better with Lebron instead of Kobe? Lets hear it dipshit.

[TheNaturalWR]

Get out of rhythm? Give me a break. Fisher, World Peace, Blake, Murphy, and Barnes get WIDE open shots the entire ****ing game. You want those guys to get more shots? lol

Kobe gets the ball to Bynum and Pau plenty. Why do you think they both average more than 15 points a game? The problem is on the perimeter, where teams just ignore Fisher/Blake/WP/Murphy/Barnes and double/triple team Kobe. The fact that Kobe averages 29 points a game is ridiculous considering how he has to take so many impossible shots due to being smothered by double teams the entire game.

If you're getting doubled PASS THE ****ING BALL. It's that simple especially when you have two 7 foot monsters in the post averaging a double-double. Wade and LeBron have been doubled every game prior to their teaming up yet they still got the best out of their teammates while staying efficient from the field. I don't know what's more idiotic the fact that you have two 7-foot monsters that you refuse to feed or shooting 25 shots if you're "double team and smothered" all game long.

[RRR3]

Okay, why would the Lakers be better with Lebron instead of Kobe? Lets hear it dipshit.
Well, you like to tell me how terrible Kobe's team is, and LeBron has proven to be great at carrying rotten teams. Also, LeBron would involve Bynum and Pau more. LeBron is a better and more consistent and active defender than Kobe, keeps the ball moving more, and doesn't waste nearly as many possesions with dumb shots early in the clock. But remember, "regular season doesn't matter"! So I'm not sure why you even care.

[Heavincent]

Well, you like to tell me how terrible Kobe's team is, and LeBron has proven to be great at carrying rotten teams. Also, LeBron would involve Bynum and Pau more. LeBron is a better and more consistent and active defender than Kobe, keeps the ball moving more, and doesn't waste nearly as many possesions with dumb shots early in the clock. But remember, "regular season doesn't matter"! So I'm not sure why you even care.

Just like Kobe has carried horrible teams?

Kobe involves Pau and Bynum plenty. Once again, why do think they both average more than 15 points a game? It's a complete myth that Kobe doesn't involve Pau and Bynum.

With Lebron, this Lakers team would probably be 15-13 or 16-12.

[RRR3]

Just like Kobe has carried horrible teams?

Kobe involves Pau and Bynum plenty. Once again, why do think they both average more than 15 points a game? It's a complete myth that Kobe doesn't involve Pau and Bynum.

With Lebron, this Lakers team would most likely be 15-13 or 16-12.
Kobe has never been past the first round w/ a horrible team. LeBron has been to the finals w/ a horrible team. LeBron is better at carrying horrible teams. Bynum could easil be scoring 20+ btw

[Heavincent]

Kobe has never been past the first round w/ a horrible team. LeBron has been to the finals w/ a horrible team. LeBron is better at carrying horrible teams.

Kobe's team was definitely worse. He had ****ing Luke Walton, Smush Parker, and Kwame Brown starting. Take Kobe away from that team, and they would probably go something like 10-72.

[RRR3]

Kobe's team was definitely worse. He had ****ing Luke Walton, Smush Parker, and Kwame Brown starting. Take Kobe away from that team, and they would probably go something like 10-72.
Take away LeBron from the Cavs and they lose 26 in a row. :confusedshrug: And in 07, LeBron had Sasha Pavlovic and Eric Snow starting. Amazing :rolleyes:

[Heavincent]

Take away LeBron from the Cavs and they lose 26 in a row. :confusedshrug: And in 07, LeBron had Sasha Pavlovic and Eric Snow starting. Amazing :rolleyes:

I knew you'd say that. They lost way more than just Lebron.

[RRR3]

I knew you'd say that. They lost way more than just Lebron.
Yes, they lost the corpses of Big Z and Shaq. Amazing.

[Heavincent]

Yes, they lost the corpses of Big Z and Shaq. Amazing.

And Mo Williams was injured. So that's 3 key players.

[e-LIMON-ators]

1. Derrick Rose
2. Jeremy Lin
3-10. Don't care

I like your way of thinking :cheers:

[imdaman99]

rose aint even playing, how are you guys having him on your top 10 lists?

[PJR]

Okay, why would the Lakers be better with Lebron instead of Kobe? Lets hear it dipshit.

Because LeBron is better than Kobe at everything with the lone exception bein foul shooting.

Next.

[jrong]

Based on this season? How in the world is Wade #3?

Before he came back from injury, he was healthy for a grand total of two games. In his current form, he's the second best player actually.

[DMAVS41]

Kobe stans are just the worst...the absolute worst.

You don't think the Lakers would be better with Lebron? I guess scoring the same amount of points on 10% better from the field while being a better defender, playmaker, and rebounder mean nothing.

Just unreal.....

[Heavincent]

Because LeBron is better than Kobe at everything with the lone exception bein foul shooting.

Next.

Funny.

[notatop29pg]

1. Lebron
2. Dwight
3. Kobe
4. Paul
5. Aldridge
6. Griffin
7. Westbrook
8. Wade
9. CJ Watson
10. Rose

[Gear2]

1) Start ISH thread
2) Thread goes well with good discussion
3) Thread reaches 6+ pages
4) Thread becomes Kobe vs Lebron thread
5) Repeat

[Bob Cousy]

1) Start ISH thread
2) Thread goes well with good discussion
3) Thread reaches 6+ pages
4) Thread becomes Kobe vs Lebron thread
5) Kobe comes out on top
6)repeatfixed.

[Tenchi Ryu]

rose aint even playing, how are you guys having him on your top 10 lists?
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


1. Lebron
2. Dwight
3. Kobe
4. Paul
5. Aldridge
6. Griffin
7. Westbrook
8. Wade
9. CJ Watson
10. Rose
:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[notatop29pg]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :oldlol: :oldlol:

:pimp:

[OKCThunderUP]

Everyone with Griffin in their top 10 needs to re-evaluate their lives.

[talkingconch]

Because LeBron is better than Kobe at everything with the lone exception bein foul shooting.

Next.
And then it hits you....

Kobe = 16th season

Lebron = 9th

[gtfomyface]

Okay, why would the Lakers be better with Lebron instead of Kobe? Lets hear it dipshit.

i'm a huge kobe fan and you're seriously in denial if you think lebron on the lakers would be worse than kobe

lebron is more efficient and better in every statistical category, he's younger, more athletic and can run the break, and doesn't take as many bad shots as kobe.

honestly the only thing separating them is that kobe has a more aesthetically pleasing midrange game and a better arsenal of moves, yet what good are said moves if they don't go in the hoop most of the time?

i'm not a fan of lebron but you still have to respect what he does on the court..

[nathanjizzle]

1. John wall
2. Derrick Rose
3. Lebron James
4. Dwight Howard
5. Kevin durrant
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Blake Griffin
9. Tim Duncan
10. Lamarcus Aldridge

[nathanjizzle]

rose aint even playing, how are you guys having him on your top 10 lists?

this is goin in the "dumbest shit you ever heard on ish" thread

[pauk]

1. Jeremy Lin..

*GAP*

2. who cares?
3. read above
4. no really...
5. stop it...
6. i wont talk if u continue...
7. .....
8. ....
9. ....
10. http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/images/smilies/notlistening.gif

[ConanRulesNBC]

In no real order...

1.) LeBron James
2.) Kobe Bryant
3.) Derrick Rose
4.) Dwight Howard
5.) Dwyane Wade
6.) Kevin Durant
7.) Rajon Rondo
8.) Blake Griffin
9.) Kevin Love
10.) Dirk Nowitzki

[Dave3]

Okay, why would the Lakers be better with Lebron instead of Kobe? Lets hear it dipshit.
This isn't a full argument or anything but think about this for a second:

21 year old LeBron + Mike Brown, pre retirement Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, and Z (all star year before) = 50 wins, team with above average offensive rating (ranked 8th I believe), and LeBron doesn't shoot 44% on 24 FGA (he does take 23 FGA, but at 48%, and a TS% of 57%, 4% higher than Kobe)

Current Kobe + Mike Brown, pre retirement Derek Fisher, Matt Barnes, Pau Gasol (all star year before), and Bynum (current all star) = 47 win pace, with exactly mediocre (15/30 teams) offensive rating, while taking more shots (by I think ~5FGA/game) than anyone in the league and a 53 TS%.

That's 21 year old LeBron. You don't think the current version who is way better defensively, about 10% better from midrange offensively, and more polished in everything skill wise (while less athletic) would do significantly better? Lakers' fans complain about Derek Fisher and Steve Blake, but these are both guys who shoot in the high 30%'s from 3 throughout their careers, and Gasol is one of the best midrange shooting big men (while also being a great player overall). Those are way better players than on the Cavs in 2006 and yet a 21 year old version of LeBron got better results with that team.

Again, this isn't a full argument and I'm not saying 21 year old LeBron would win 50 games with this team guaranteed, but that's not unlikely, and if that's likely, then it's sure as hell very likely that current LeBron would do a much better job, no question. He won 50 games with a much worse roster (less shooters even) and the same coach as a 21 year old. 21 year old LeBron could probably win 50 with this roster and yield better offensive results.

Arguing that this current prime version of him wouldn't do better does indeed deserve to go in that "stupidest things" thread.

[dyna]

1) Lebron
2) Dwight
3) Durant
4) Kobe
5) Rose
6) Wade
7) CP3
8) Love
9) Nowitzki
10) Griffin

[Kurosawa0]

Based off of this season alone:

1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Derrick Rose
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Dwight Howard
6. Chris Paul
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Kevin Love
9. Tony Parker
10. Andrew Bynum

[artest 93]

1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Rose
4. Howard
5. Kobe

[D-Wade316]

1. Lebron James
2. Chris Paul
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Kevin Durant
5. Jeremy Lin
.
.
.
the rest

[chips93]

Bron
Kobe
Rose
Dwight
Durant
Paul
Deron
Aldridge
Dirk
Love
Westbrook

[RRR3]

Bump. Some stats of players in or near the top 10...


LeBron James: 37.2 MPG, 27.8 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 6.8 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.8 BPG, .549/.397/.770 shooting

Kevin Durant: 38.2 MPG, 28.2 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 3.3 APG, 1.4 SPG, 1.2 BPG, .508/.377/.835 shooting

Dwight Howard: 38.3 MPG, 20.4 PPG, 15.0 RPG, 2.0 APG, 1.5 SPG, 2.2 BPG, 56.1 FG%

Dwyane Wade: 32.4 MPG, 22.9 PPG, 4.3 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.7 SPG, 1.3 BPG, .500/.158/.807 shooting

Chris Paul: 36.3 MPG, 19.7 PPG, 3.5 RPG, 8.4 APG, 2.2 SPG, .491/.427/.850 shooting

Kobe Bryant: 38.0 MPG, 28.9 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.8 APG, 1.3 SPG, .444/.277/.826 shooting

Russell Westbrook: 35.3 MPG, 23.6 PPG, 4.8 RPG, 5.5 APG, 1.8 SPG, .469/.300/.817 shooting

Derrick Rose: 35.4 MPG, 22.8 RPG, 3.2 RPG, 7.7 APG, 0.9 SPG, 0.7 BPG, .465/.320/.817 shooting

Deron Williams: 37.1 MPG, 22.6 PPG, 3.5 APG, 8.2 RPG, 1.1 SPG, .414/.361/.864 shooting

Kevin Love: 39.6 MPG, 25.0 PPG, 13.6 RPG, 2.0 APG, 1.0 SPG, .443/.353/.838 shooting

LaMarcus Aldridge: 36.1 MPG, 21.9 PPG, 8.2 RPG, 2.1 APG, 1.0 SPG, 0.7 BPG, 50.6 FG%, 80.5 FT%


Anyone have a different opinion on the top 10 after more of the season has passed?

[ralph_i_el]

LeBron
Kobe/Durant (interchangeable)
Rose
Howard
Wade
Anthony
Love
Aldridge
Griffin
Granger
*Paul (consistency)

granger is not shooting well this year. I'd take tony parker, steve nash, deron, Dirk, Pau, Bynum, Harden....

[LBJMVP]

LeBron
Kobe/Durant (interchangeable)
Rose
Howard
Wade
Anthony
Love
Aldridge
Griffin
Granger
*Paul (consistency)

lebron
durant
kobe
rose
howard
westbroook
Dirk
wade
paul
williams

[guy]

The whole "right now" thing is so hard to quantify and measure. So I guess I'll put it as if the season ended today, who would be top 10 on my MVP voting list. I usually just take into account who I think has been the best and take into account games played. None of this "take this player off his team and how good is his team" bs or any of the other cliche media-driven bs measures they use for MVP.

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. CP3
4. Kobe
5. Howard
6. Westbrook
7. Rose
8. Wade
9. Deron
10. Love

[AlphaWolf24]

1.Kobe
2.Durant
3.Dirk
4.Rose
5.Lebron
6.Howard
8.Wade
9.Westbrook
10.Love

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

dont have a top 10, but here's my 5

kd
lebron
rose
kobe
paul

[pauk]

1.Kobe
2.Durant
3.Dirk
4.Rose
5.Lebron
6.Howard
8.Wade
9.Westbrook
10.Love

:roll:

Why not just throw Lebron out of the top 10? What difference does it make in this case? lol...

[pegasus]

Durant/Rose
Rose/Durant
Kobe
Howard
Lebron
Dirk
CP3
Wade
Love
Westbrook/D-Will

[Indian guy]

1) Durant/Rose
2) Rose/Durant
3) Kobe
4) Wade
5) Dwight
6) LeBron
7) CP3
8) Dirk
9) 'Melo
10) Westbrook

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Top 3 should be automatic...
Lebron
Kobe/Durant

[imdaman99]

damn... doesnt look like lin is gonna get any top 10s nowadays :(
but westbrook is def top 10 :banana:

[pauk]

1) Durant/Rose
2) Rose/Durant
3) Kobe
4) Wade
5) Dwight
6) LeBron
7) CP3
8) Dirk
9) 'Melo
10) Westbrook

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/awsome/grand/nba_win_gif.gif

[pegasus]

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/awsome/grand/nba_win_gif.gif

Is that you giving birth to your Lebron love child?

[pauk]

Is that you giving birth to your Lebron love child?

Pegasus!! Only your top 10 list could beat Indian guys... please let me see it... Lebron at 100? :oldlol:

[pegasus]

Pegasus!! Only your top 10 list could beat Indian guys... please let me see it... Lebron at 100? :oldlol:

Take your Lebron glasses off, and check out the previous page to satisfy your curiosity.

[Doranku]

1. Durant
2. LeBrick
3. Kobe/Rose
4. Rose/Kobe
5. Dwight
6. CP3
7. Wade
8. Westbrook
9. Love
10. Melo

[Jasi]

In terms of who I'd want to lead my team in the playoffs?

1st tier
Durant, Kobe, LeBron

2nd tier
Wade, Dirk, Rose

3rd tier
Howard, CP3, Melo

4th tier
Gasol, Pierce, TP

[Unstop]

Durant,Lebron
Kobe
Rose,Dirk,Westbrook,Dwight,Nash
Wade,Deron,CP3,Blake,Love

something like that. maybe i forgot some players who have a shot for at least the 10th spot.

[Alamo]

1. Durant/Lebron
2. Lebron/Durant
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Derrick Rose
5. Dwight Howard
6. Russell Westbrook
7. Chris Paul
8. Kevin Love
9. Deron Williams
10. Dwyane Wade

[Jasi]

There's a remarkable overrating of Love in this thread.
Further proof that ISHiots care way too much about stats.

[AlphaWolf24]

:roll:

Why not just throw Lebron out of the top 10? What difference does it make in this case? lol...


he's def top 5:confusedshrug:

I factor in Leadership/ability to will your team....

[pegasus]

There's a remarkable overrating of Love in this thread.
Further proof that ISHiots care way too much about stats.

That's what I was saying last year, but his stats translated to a bunch of wins this year, and he's been clutch for the most part.

[pauk]

1) Durant/Rose
2) Rose/Durant
3) Kobe
4) Wade
5) Dwight
6) LeBron
7) CP3
8) Dirk
9) 'Melo
10) Westbrook

Durant/Rose
Rose/Durant
Kobe
Howard
Lebron
Dirk
CP3
Wade
Love
Westbrook/D-Will

lmao.... i knew that was your other account! no way 2 crazy persons like that can exist at the same time ...

[TheCorporation]

My list
1. LeBron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Kevin Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Derrick Rose
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Kevin Love
9. LaMarcus Aldridge
10. Deron Williams

[StateOfMind12]

During the regular season or by the end of the regular season LeBron is always considered the best player in the league. However, during the post-season and after the post-season is finished, they usually call someone else the best player in the league or better than LeBron.

So while LeBron is the best player in the league right now this season, I predict that once the post-season is around and once it ends, Kevin Durant or possibly another player will be considered better than him.

1. LeBron (for now)
2. Durant
3. Kobe
4. Rose
5. CP3
6. Dwight
7. Wade
8. Dirk
9. Love
10. Westbrook

[Jasi]

That's what I was saying last year, but his stats translated to a bunch of wins this year, and he's been clutch for the most part.

But his team (and coaching) has improved a lot compared to last year as well.

I love Love (lol), but top 10 is far fetched for a spot up shooter and rebounder, as outstanding as he is at that.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Is this list for top 10 REGULAR SEASON players?
I suppose it is since its based on this season.
Lebron would have to be #1 regular season player.

[Tenchi Ryu]

1.Lebron
2.Kobe
3.Rose/Durant
4.Howard
5.CP3
6.Wade
7. Aldridge
8.Westbrook
9. Love
10.Griffin

[REACTION]

http://i.imgur.com/MDYFc.jpg

[Tenchi Ryu]

^^^
That is a very visually appealing list...

[Legends66NBA7]

1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwight Howard
5. Derrick Rose
6. Dwyane Wade
7. LaMarcus Aldridge
8. Russell Westbrook
9. Kevin Love
10. Chris Paul

[Fiasco]

Why is Blake Griffin on these lists..

[Tenchi Ryu]

Why is Blake Griffin on these lists..
Couldn't think of anyone else lol

[BGriffin's Dad]

Why is Blake Griffin on these lists..

because hes an incredible player and easily top 2 PF in the league (really #1 tho) you f***ing traitor

[stallionaire]

because hes an incredible player and easily top 2 PF in the league (really #1 tho) you f***ing traitor

Blake isn't even a top 3 pf.

[BGriffin's Dad]

Blake isn't even a top 3 pf.

name 2 better

[stallionaire]

Love and Dirk.

[BGriffin's Dad]

Love and Dirk.

haha dirk? Love i'll accept, but DIRK?

Blake: 21.3 PPG, 11 RPG, 2.9 APG, 53.2% FG
Dirk: 19.7 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 2.1 APG, 45.6% FG

Griffin literally shits on Dirk this season... 6.9 rebounds and 45.6% shooting lol pathetic

[Heavincent]

1.) Durant
2.) Kobe
3.) Lebron
4.) Rose
5.) Dwight
6.) CP3
7.) Westbrook
8.) Love/Griffin
9.) Wade
10.) LaMarcus Aldridge

[chips93]

because hes an incredible player and easily top 2 PF in the league (really #1 tho) you f***ing traitor

theres so much wrong with this post

[RRR3]

1.) Durant
2.) Kobe
3.) Lebron
4.) Rose
5.) Dwight
6.) CP3
7.) Westbrook
8.) Love/Griffin
9.) Wade
10.) LaMarcus Aldridge
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[imdaman99]

blake griffin is top 20 in the league, but not top 10 :no:

[stallionaire]

1.) Durant
2.) Kobe
3.) Lebron
4.) Rose
5.) Dwight
6.) CP3
7.) Westbrook
8.) Love/Griffin
9.) Wade
10.) LaMarcus Aldridge
:facepalm

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

haha dirk? Love i'll accept, but DIRK?

Blake: 21.3 PPG, 11 RPG, 2.9 APG, 53.2% FG
Dirk: 19.7 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 2.1 APG, 45.6% FG

Griffin literally shits on Dirk this season... 6.9 rebounds and 45.6% shooting lol pathetic
literally?
wow, Griffin and Dirk are in to some kinky stuff.

[Heavincent]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You have a weird sense of humor...

[RRR3]

http://cdn1.tauntr.com/sites/default/files/KobeThumb.jpg
:lol

[BGriffin's Dad]

literally?
wow, Griffin and Dirk are in to some kinky stuff.

yes literally.. big stinky shit right on that german's face :lol

[REACTION]

Blake isn't even a top 3 pf.

Even though I have Griffin over LaMarcus right now, I think LaMarcus and Love are the only two power forwards who could have a case over Griffin right now. Assuming we're talking about this season only, I haven't seen anything from Gasol, Dirk, Bosh or Amar'e that bumps Griffin out of the top 3 PF list. He's putting up 21 points with 53% efficiency, highest of the top PFs, and grabbing 11 rebounds, second only to Kevin Love. He's also averaging 2.9 assists, second only to Pau Gasol. Other than his dismal center-like free throw shooting, I think he's been having a great sophomore season.

http://i.imgur.com/CrTdr.jpg

[Heavincent]

:lol

Shouldn't I be a "crazy Durant fan", considering I have him at #1...over Kobe. At least going by your really dumb logic.

You obsessive Lebron stans sure do have a warped sense of reality.

[iDefend5]

1. Kobe
2. Durant
3. Rose
4. Howard
5. CP3
6. Wade
7. Westbrook
8. Dirk
9. Aldridge
10. Pierce

[BGriffin's Dad]

8. Dirk
10. Pierce
:wtf:

[Unstop]

1 lebron
2 durant
3 kobe
4 dwight
5 rose
6 westbrook
7 wade
1 dirk
9 nash
10 love
11 deron
12 aldrige
13 pierce
.
.
.
23 olajuwon
24 jordan
25 jeremy lin
.
.
.
35 gasol...marc
.
.
.
42 gasol paul
.
.
.
48 deandre jordan
49 CPaul
50 Blake Griffins dad
51 jeremy lin bandwagon
52 blake griffin

:djparty

[REACTION]

23 olajuwon
24 jordan

http://i.imgur.com/TRnlc.jpg

[Kingwillball]

1. Kobe
2. Durant
3. Rose
4. Howard
5. CP3
6. Wade
7. Westbrook
8. Dirk
9. Aldridge
10. Pierce


Should we call U a Troll or give U a pass for not purposely forgetting Lebron off the List ???

[Riley Martin]

Should we call U a Troll or give U a pass for not purposely forgetting Lebron off the List ???
:oldlol: