View Full Version : Jeremy Lin just set the all time new york Knicks record for turnovers in a half
kennethgriffin
02-17-2012, 10:12 PM
:applause:
amaizing
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The Macho Man
02-17-2012, 10:13 PM
What's the nba record for a game?
Nick Young
02-17-2012, 10:13 PM
every game he sets a record:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
iDefend5
02-17-2012, 10:13 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/zmhxl.jpg
HEAT111
02-17-2012, 10:14 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/zmhxl.jpg
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Killbot
02-17-2012, 10:15 PM
Jeremy Lin ain't afraid to put his name in every record. :bowdown:
Nick Young
02-17-2012, 10:16 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/zmhxl.jpg
that bitch Lin sucker punched DA GOAT:eek: :eek: :eek:
kurt_rambis
02-17-2012, 10:16 PM
1:2 assist-to-turnover ratio HA
strifed169
02-17-2012, 10:21 PM
fearless
Bob Cousy
02-17-2012, 10:21 PM
no biggie.
http://troll.me/images/lin-to/10-turnovers-ha-i-had-10-assists--thumb.jpg
RoseCity07
02-17-2012, 10:21 PM
...and no he can go back into obscurity.
kennethgriffin
02-17-2012, 10:25 PM
...and no he can go back into obscurity.
dude obviously doesnt belong in a starting linup..
hes ok.. but comon.. his turnovers are becoming legendary..
hes averaging 6 as a starter... maybe 7 after tonight.. :facepalm
The_Yearning
02-17-2012, 10:26 PM
He's been averaging 45 mins a game too.
But if he keeps winning and getting all these turnovers, what is that saying about the other team? It's the Hornets after all.
no pun intended
02-17-2012, 10:26 PM
What's the nba record for a game?
14-John Drew, Atlanta at New Jersey, March 1, 1978,
14-Jason Kidd, Phoenix vs. New York, November 17, 2000
inclinerator
02-17-2012, 10:26 PM
dude obviously doesnt belong in a starting linup..
hes ok.. but comon.. his turnovers are becoming legendary..
hes averaging 6 as a starter... maybe 7 after tonight.. :facepalm
:facepalm
KDthunderup
02-17-2012, 10:27 PM
lol Kobe ******gers are so mad
RoseCity07
02-17-2012, 10:27 PM
I swear to god I just saw a Al Sharpton political commercial that sad "Lin Forward". Are you ****ing kidding me?
Bob Cousy
02-17-2012, 10:28 PM
lol Kobe ******gers are so mad
Kobe what ?
what word was censored ?
RoseCity07
02-17-2012, 10:31 PM
Kobe what ?
what word was censored ?
c*m guzzlers?
EDIT: I guess that doesn't work.
He's an average shooter, below average 3 pt shooter and a turnover machine.
He's also a long 6'3" who isn't afraid of the game.
have loved all the "he's no Tim Tebow...he can play!" quotes from the media as he's shot 26% from 3, turned the ball over 30 times in 5 games, anb beat some pretty crappy teams.
May make it, but basing it on a couple big plays while ignoring the glaring weaknesses in his game is foolish. Or should I say fool-ISH.
KDthunderup
02-17-2012, 10:32 PM
Kobe what ?
what word was censored ?
nut huggers
Jyap9675
02-18-2012, 12:46 AM
He's an average shooter, below average 3 pt shooter and a turnover machine.
He's also a long 6'3" who isn't afraid of the game.
have loved all the "he's no Tim Tebow...he can play!" quotes from the media as he's shot 26% from 3, turned the ball over 30 times in 5 games, anb beat some pretty crappy teams.
May make it, but basing it on a couple big plays while ignoring the glaring weaknesses in his game is foolish. Or should I say fool-ISH.
:applause:
We'll see how he progresses, seriously I got annoyed when Yahoo7 made an article that Jeremy lin should be traded for Steph curry.. thats f*cked up.
clayton
02-18-2012, 12:49 AM
GOAT turnover'er.
That's what happens when you are a team's primary ball handler and people are gunning to defend that ball handler.
I hope J Lin learns from those turnovers and improve his game.
Clutch
02-18-2012, 10:28 AM
Lin breaking records with ease :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
demons2005
02-18-2012, 10:31 AM
It's a miracle he got so few because he throws TONS of sloppy passes that get deflected out of bounds or his teammates manage to chase down. Before they didn't know exactly how many dangerous passes he makes so they played normal defense on their mans, but now defenders know he is an easy source of steals so they are always going to be ready for the sloppy passes. Can't wait til the Bulls play him rose will have 10 steals
Rnbizzle
02-18-2012, 11:28 AM
14-John Drew, Atlanta at New Jersey, March 1, 1978,
14-Jason Kidd, Phoenix vs. New York, November 17, 2000
Not the player I'd expected to have this record, at all.
rodman91
02-18-2012, 11:58 AM
He is undrafted,almost a rookie. He had great games and amazing stats,7-1 record, including outscoring Kobe and a game winner. Knicks are holding on playoffs because of him.
Who gives a **** about turnovers... Some of you guys forgetting this an undrafted guy came from D-league and made all of these. I would understand if he was an elite veteran had such turnovers.
I<3NBA
02-18-2012, 11:58 AM
how many TOs did John Wall average in his rookie year?
yeah. thought so.
D'Antoni is riding him like there's no tomorrow and fatigue is really taking a factor in these TOs.
IGOTGAME
02-18-2012, 12:01 PM
how many TOs did John Wall average in his rookie year?
yeah. thought so.
D'Antoni is riding him like there's no tomorrow and fatigue is really taking a factor in these TOs.
Nope, it is just bad decisions and lack of ability to complete certain passes. it was obvious for a while to anyone that watched the game. he got alway with a lot of it because of bad defenses, the compressed, schedule etc...
I find it funny how no one will objectively look at the kids playmaking. Everyone wants to say he has a high bball iq...that is false. just plays out of control. He has the ball in his hand so much that is gonna be bad in the long run.
Blue&Orange
02-18-2012, 12:17 PM
I have no problem with the Linovers...
What the difference between a turnover and a bad offensively possession that ends with a bad shot? NONE!
And the Knicks offense without Lin is just that, a bad possession with a bad shot, over and over and over.
That why i have no problem either with Fields also being aggressive and sometimes making an ass of himself, hell i would like that all Knicks players would be aggressive like Lin, couldn't care less if they average 8 turnovers a game also, because right now the alternative is not better... bad offensive possession after bad offensive possession.
strifed169
02-18-2012, 12:22 PM
all the haters are forgetting this is really his rookie year, and his 7-8 starts as an NBA player, he was tossed in the ****ing fire, and he STILL put up these stupid stats, 24/4/8? those #s are insane, he's nto playing in the d-league anymore, this is NBA, bigtime, the spotlight is engulfing this kid and everybody wants a piece of him, every player on every team.
just looking at his mentality to win no matter what, he's going to be a star, he's got the killer drive and work ethic to be great, his only issue so far into his season are obviously turnovers, but that comes with the job of being point guard. he's out of control alot but that CAN and WILL be fixed over time, and if that is the only thing haters can come up with to bash him than we already know he's going to be a superstar baller.
vegasbigshots
02-18-2012, 12:25 PM
All the fame and attention finally got to his head, I'm hoping some soul searching will bring him back to earth. He thought he can be the hero again in the 4th quarter againts the hornets but failed. Hopefully he will learn from the last game.
Those turn overs are pretty high and costly. How many scores were converted for each of his turnovers? Anybody has stats?
I still believe in Linsanity. :rockon:
heyhey
02-18-2012, 12:25 PM
Nope, it is just bad decisions and lack of ability to complete certain passes. it was obvious for a while to anyone that watched the game. he got alway with a lot of it because of bad defenses, the compressed, schedule etc...
I find it funny how no one will objectively look at the kids playmaking. Everyone wants to say he has a high bball iq...that is false. just plays out of control. He has the ball in his hand so much that is gonna be bad in the long run.
Ur reference point is so skewed. He's a 7th star pg in a system that demands a lot from the point. Compare him to other guys in their 1st season and it's obvious he's doing well.
Dantoni offense always has high turnovers because it's always looking to push.
But if u r looking for super polished pg play from a guy that was on the dleague just 2 months ago then I think u r missing the point.
I find it funny that no one will talk about upside with a guy like Jeremy Lin.
vegasbigshots
02-18-2012, 12:29 PM
I find it funny that no one will talk about upside with a guy like Jeremy Lin.
Come on... no one... Linsanity has been ruling this board with props. You get both upside and downside comments.
IGOTGAME
02-18-2012, 12:38 PM
Ur reference point is so skewed. He's a 7th star pg in a system that demands a lot from the point. Compare him to other guys in their 1st season and it's obvious he's doing well.
Dantoni offense always has high turnovers because it's always looking to push.
But if u r looking for super polished pg play from a guy that was on the dleague just 2 months ago then I think u r missing the point.
I find it funny that no one will talk about upside with a guy like Jeremy Lin.
Actually I have been talking about upside. As a pg I don't see it because he lacks ability to pass the ball. He has trouble passing from different angles, dribbling under duress, passing the ball at different speeds. His court vision is also nothing special in this league. These are all not things that are easy to improve. Passing is one of the hardest things in the league to become better at.
I just think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of passing and pg play by many.
Hardjelly
02-18-2012, 01:18 PM
Lin's weaknesses are ball handling and defense, but they will improve quickly as he continues to log minutes. He's pretty decent (not great) for a 2nd year player who got almost ZERO playing time his rookie year and almost NONE this year as well.
Shepseskaf
02-18-2012, 01:41 PM
Actually I have been talking about upside. As a pg I don't see it because he lacks ability to pass the ball. He has trouble passing from different angles, dribbling under duress, passing the ball at different speeds. His court vision is also nothing special in this league. These are all not things that are easy to improve. Passing is one of the hardest things in the league to become better at.
I just think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of passing and pg play by many.
In other words, Lin should take passing lessons from Rubio ... and Rubio should take shooting lessons from Lin.
So you're a hater for pointing out turnovers. When even magic Johnson said he has to LEARN how to play the position because he doesn't know how right now (learning on the job) and limit those turnovers.
But it's ok to celebrate praise using witty phrases with Lin name make .gifs, pix and overreact over Lins performance thus far. Makes sense. :rolleyes:
Everyone has flaws. Pointing them out is not hating.
hawkfan
02-18-2012, 02:06 PM
He's learning on the job.
Remember last year, he got almost no run, and this year, prior to the last 8 games, he got very little run.
There's a learning curve and he is going through it.
Once he cuts down on the turnovers, he could be borderline impossible to stop.
plUto or bUst
02-18-2012, 03:26 PM
I think Knicks fans are very optimistic if they think Lin will be able to control his turnovers to any large degree. After watching his games, it seems to be a byproduct of his style of play. I think if he can get his assist to turnover ratio somewhere between 1.5:1 to 2:1, which should be very doable, he can still be a very effective player in this league. He is not Chris Paul, and I doubt he'll ever be.
Look at Westbrook, his assist to turnover is barely north of 1:1 and no one doubts his abilities as a point guard.
plUto or bUst
02-18-2012, 03:30 PM
Actually I have been talking about upside. As a pg I don't see it because he lacks ability to pass the ball. He has trouble passing from different angles, dribbling under duress, passing the ball at different speeds. His court vision is also nothing special in this league. These are all not things that are easy to improve. Passing is one of the hardest things in the league to become better at.
I just think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of passing and pg play by many.
He can pass the ball. Watch the highlights from the Sac / Knicks game as an example. He is just not elite like Nash / Kidd / Rondo etc. He doesn't need to pass like them to become a star.
Kevin_Gamble
02-18-2012, 03:34 PM
A turnover may be the worst way to end a possession, but closely behind is whatever the hell the Knicks were doing on offense before Lin showed up to save their season. But I agree that he's often looked sloppy. Maybe he'll get sharper, but if not he may end up as the next Flip Murray.
Cali Syndicate
02-18-2012, 03:41 PM
dude obviously doesnt belong in a starting linup..
hes ok.. but comon.. his turnovers are becoming legendary..
hes averaging 6 as a starter... maybe 7 after tonight.. :facepalm
So let me get this straight, he shouldn't start because his high turnover rate despite carrying his team to 7 epic wins? Yeah that makes total sense.
John Wall started his first five games practically averaging 6 turnovers per. He had multiple strings of 4-5 game averaging ~5-6 turnovers. Kobe was the same in his 05 season. Lebron averaged ~6 turnovers per game for the first 4 games last season.
Lin's turnover rate is high but it's nothing to be alarmed about. Just means he's forcing too much. It's obvious dude can play.
deion2123
02-18-2012, 03:48 PM
He's an average shooter, below average 3 pt shooter and a turnover machine.
He's also a long 6'3" who isn't afraid of the game.
have loved all the "he's no Tim Tebow...he can play!" quotes from the media as he's shot 26% from 3, turned the ball over 30 times in 5 games, anb beat some pretty crappy teams.
May make it, but basing it on a couple big plays while ignoring the glaring weaknesses in his game is foolish. Or should I say fool-ISH.
since starting he looks to be a good mid range shooter...average 3 pt shooter....I don't count those games where he played 5 minutes off the bench..I guess the Lakers are crappy then
Cali Syndicate
02-18-2012, 04:02 PM
All the fame and attention finally got to his head, I'm hoping some soul searching will bring him back to earth. He thought he can be the hero again in the 4th quarter againts the hornets but failed. Hopefully he will learn from the last game.
Those turn overs are pretty high and costly. How many scores were converted for each of his turnovers? Anybody has stats?
I still believe in Linsanity. :rockon:
Most his turnovers came in the first half. Like 6 in the first quarter alone. He might have had like 1 or 2 in the entire second half. Not sure the points off turnovers but Knicks were definitely playing catch up from the very get go.
Lin had a bad game but bad defense and inability to knock down shots also contributed to their loss.
bagelred
02-18-2012, 04:07 PM
Yeah he had some bad turnovers in the first half, but really, he was just trying to make plays. Knicks really don't have anyone that can get there own shot except him. He only had 1 turnover in the 2nd half.
So with all those 8 turnovers in first half, they were still only down 4 at the half. I thought Lin played very well in the 2nd half and had a huge steal late and free throws to cut lead to 2. But they couldn't get the stops.
Knicks couldn't hit shots. Knicks SG/SF were atrocious. Fields, Walker, Shumpert, and Novak combined for 7 for 31 shooting. Really? And it's all Lin's fault?
Lin got 26 points on 8 for 18 shooting. With 5 assists and 4 steals. Pretty damn good for a "bad" game.
kurple
02-18-2012, 05:49 PM
with 9 turnovers
TeamLAC
02-18-2012, 05:52 PM
LINSANITYYYYY! Props.:applause:
knickswin
02-18-2012, 05:53 PM
you can live with the turnovers for the most part. the problem would be if they were to play miami in the playoffs. turnovers would kill them. that's where you start to think that there's a slim chance that baron davis could be very useful. he's better at protecting the ball than lin.
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