ESPN removes ***** in the armor headline, apologizes.

[niko]

They blamed it on it being late at night so it slipped by.:lol espn is retarded.

Note : the word was c h I n k .

[irondarts]

:lol :lol :lol

How stupid can they be to use that headline ???

[Meticode]

:roll:

[get these NETS]

espn being espn


lin...welcome to the world of non white athletes...where "slurs" slip through somehow.....

[Pharcyde]

They've used that headline before I'm pretty sure. It was a college game headline.

[get these NETS]

The Asian American journalist group that (rightfully) protested jason whitlock's stupid and racist comments WON'T do or say a gotdamned thing about the espn headline.

[longtime lurker]

The Asian American journalist group that (rightfully) protested jason whitlock's stupid and racist comments WON'T do or say a gotdamned thing about the espn headline.

Yeah because saying "*****" in the armour is an actual saying not a racist term, but ESPN should have been a lot more sensitive to how it could be perceived.

[get these NETS]

Yeah because saying "*****" in the armour is an actual saying not a racist term, but ESPN should have been a lot more sensitive to how it could be perceived.


http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2012-articles/february/espn-uses-a-very-unfortunate-headline-with-qa-*****-in-the-armorq-for-lins-first-loss.html



his best line
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But my thought here, and I understand it's just my opinion, is that this is pretty inexcusable given that ESPN.com is a huge platform with a lot of built in processes, people involved, and higher standards.

The usage of this very common saying is not racist itself if you just go with its surface meaning.

However, the worst racial slur you could call someone of Chinese or Asian descent would be "*****" and while it has dual definitions unlike most other slurs, it's just all too convenient that it shows up here. At face value, the headline certainly makes sense. But the dual definition of that word essentially ensures that if published, their would be a shit storm. Now there is.

So either way you look at it, it's wrong and it reminds me of a famous scene in Casino when Robert De Niro defends the firing of one his casino managers after he failed to realize that slot machines were rigged for big payouts that occurred multiple times before he thought anything of it.

De Niro says, "Look, he was either in on it, or he was too dumb to recognize it. Either way, I can't have him working for me"

.......



I have my own ideas about why the group won't say ANYTHING about this headline.....even after (rightfully) forcing an apology from whitlock within hours of his comments.

Doubt that ish posters who back Lin will be as vocal about this as they were about whitlock's comments.

Reasons are one in the same.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I could believe it's an honest mistake simply because it's such an incredibly stupid thing to do if it's intentional. Wonder if ESPN will release the name of the writer who dropped this particular turd.

[GOBB]

Honest mistake my ass. Get out of here.

[La Frescobaldi]

espn being espn


lin...welcome to the world of non white athletes...where "slurs" slip through somehow.....

so back in the 70s & 80s when certain announcers used to say certain players were salty that was okay?

And when people blatantly hide a racist comment behind the term "unathletic" that's okay too?

does welcoming lin to a world of non white athletes have any connotations?

I don't care for a double standard.

We're all men in this world, there's no time for hatred.

(apologies to ladies don't mean to leave em out)

[Kingwillball]

That headline is creative though.. I admit I lol and I am a Lin fan.

[DJ Leon Smith]

They've used that headline before yep.

http://www.faniq.com/blog/ESPN-*****-In-The-Armor-Team-USA-Basketball-Headline-Blog-11274

[bagelred]

They obviously made a mistake, not realizing the implications of that phrase with Lin. They didn't do that on purpose, come on.

They originally wanted to use "Lin Looking Yellow in Defeat" but they went with the other one.

[Allstar24]

It's not a mistake, it is intentional because they have said in on ESPN in the past. Too ignorant to realize that's an offensive term.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESEGRwnQW4k&feature=player_embedded

[BlueandGold]

They obviously made a mistake, not realizing the implications of that phrase with Lin. They didn't do that on purpose, come on.

They originally wanted to use "Lin Looking Yellow in Defeat" but they went with the other one.
lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

I just don't see how a company as media-savvy as ESPN, the #1 sports-media company in the country, probably even the planet, could go out and use that phrase talking about a man of Chinese decent intentionally. I won't say it's impossible but that's just mind-blowing. This kind of controversy is the last thing they'd want. To purposefully offend people like that in the current ultra-pc age almost strikes me as impossibly stupid. This isn't some small-town paper in a Confederate state, this is ESPN.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Apparently it was posted at 2:30am. Somebody needed to get some sleep...and probably woke up without a job.

[LA_Showtime]

Are you kidding me? How can ESPN be that stupid.

I don't even wanna know what would've happened had that been a racial slur directed at an African American.

[bagelred]

Are you kidding me? How can ESPN be that stupid.

I don't even wanna know what would've happened had that been a racial slur directed at an African American.

Remember 3 years ago when ESPN had the headline, "Kobe Playing Like a Lazy Ass N*gger"? I mean, I don't think that was intentional.......just a common phrase.

[bagelred]

*****
1    [chingk] Show IPA
noun
1.
a crack, cleft, or fissure: a ***** in a wall.
2.
a narrow opening: a ***** between two buildings.
verb (used with object)
3.
to fill up ****** in.

So now insidehoops blocks out actual english words because it has a secondary meaning? :facepalm

[tmacattack33]

Holy Shit!! I just heard about this.

LOLOL that is ridiculous. What kind of idiot doesn't realize that Ch*nk is a negative term? :facepalm

Oh well, ESPN has no competition though so it won't be hurt by this.

[ILLsmak]

lol ***** in the armor... hahaha.

wow.


-Smak

[ProfessorMurder]

Not a big deal. It shows how racist everyone is by taking a common phrase and making it about race.

[tmacattack33]

Not a big deal. It shows how racist everyone is by taking a common phrase and making it about race.

It's not just that guy who said it once while in the middle of that live interview with Walt Frazier.

ESPN actually used this as a headline to an article of theirs on their mobile website.

[tmacattack33]

http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2012-articles/february/espn-uses-a-very-unfortunate-headline-with-qa-*****-in-the-armorq-for-lins-first-loss.html



his best line
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But my thought here, and I understand it's just my opinion, is that this is pretty inexcusable given that ESPN.com is a huge platform with a lot of built in processes, people involved, and higher standards.

The usage of this very common saying is not racist itself if you just go with its surface meaning.

However, the worst racial slur you could call someone of Chinese or Asian descent would be "*****" and while it has dual definitions unlike most other slurs, it's just all too convenient that it shows up here. At face value, the headline certainly makes sense. But the dual definition of that word essentially ensures that if published, their would be a shit storm. Now there is.

So either way you look at it, it's wrong and it reminds me of a famous scene in Casino when Robert De Niro defends the firing of one his casino managers after he failed to realize that slot machines were rigged for big payouts that occurred multiple times before he thought anything of it.

De Niro says, "Look, he was either in on it, or he was too dumb to recognize it. Either way, I can't have him working for me"

.......



I have my own ideas about why the group won't say ANYTHING about this headline.....even after (rightfully) forcing an apology from whitlock within hours of his comments.

Doubt that ish posters who back Lin will be as vocal about this as they were about whitlock's comments.

Reasons are one in the same.

Yup, perfect post.

The ESPN people who came up with the article headline and let it go through are either racist and making a joke, or they were too dumb to realize that you are not allowed to have a headline saying ch*nk in it. I don't know which one is better.

[Derka]

LMAO! They really did that? WTB screenshot.

[get these NETS]

article which updates the story

..article names names and details reactions by AAJA and espn


http://sportsrantz.com/media/2012/02/18/espn-jeremy-lin-*****-in-the-armor/

[LBJMVP]

there is no way that was an honest mistake...

an asian kid losing for the first time and you make a title
"***** in the armor" :facepalm
common sense will tell you that you shouldnt do that, that bad things will happen.

if it was for a regular game, then go ahead and use it, but not in a game that is all about an asian-american kid.

[PJR]

http://jimromenesko.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Al660EhCIAEjXv4.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[teddytwelvetoes]

Lol @ everyone saying it was an honest mistake. Its ESPN for ****s sake. A ***** in the armor? Oh yeah its just a coincidence :rolleyes:

[CLTHornets4eva]

Oh well, ESPN has no competition though so it won't be hurt by this.

So true.

Media companies aren't hurt by gaffes anyway- unless the FCC fines them, which they dont do anymore anyway.

[Nevaeh]

Funny, all this time I thought it was "Kinks in the Armour", as in "The Bulls, who are still working out the kinks on the defensive end", etc.

But yeah, hidden racism is not hidden, in this case.

[TheMan]

Remember 3 years ago when ESPN had the headline, "Kobe Playing Like a Lazy Ass N*gger"? I mean, I don't think that was intentional.......just a common phrase.
:no: :lol

[longtime lurker]

http://jimromenesko.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Al660EhCIAEjXv4.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Seeing the headline and the direct reference to Lin this has to be intentional. I mean if it was just said in passing the Hornets found the ***** in the Knicks armour I can see it as unintentional, but its direct reference how could someone not see the connection?

[bagelred]

ESPN just released a statement:


"We want to apologize if any Chinese-Americans were offended by that inappropriate headline that we used. So let us be the first to say, "Me So Solly!"


:facepalm

[derb2k2]

rofl I lol'd at the headline. I doubt it wasn't intentional. Everyone likes to have fun sometimes ahah

[Nevaeh]

rofl I lol'd at the headline. I doubt it wasn't intentional. Everyone likes to have fun sometimes ahah

I know right? Racism is so fun!! Such a pick me up, when you're having a bad day.

:rolleyes:

[derb2k2]

I know right? Racism is so fun!! Such a pick me up, when you're having a bad day.

:rolleyes:


ahah listen man, I throw around slurs to my friends regularly. They also have their names for me. It's all fun dude. I'm far from racist, having dated black and hispanic women. :bowdown:

[Nevaeh]

ahah listen man, I throw around slurs to my friends regularly. They also have their names for me. It's all fun dude. I'm far from racist, having dated black and hispanic women. :bowdown:

That makes you a racist, sorry to break it to you. You shouldn't even have to use slurs, if you were really their friends to begin with. Especially slurs that usually have a violent history attached to them.

[get these NETS]

got me wondering though

one slur....complete word is automatically blanked out on ish

another slur....I swear i've seen written unedited on ish...and most definitely partially blanked...even in THIS thread


as noted before, the first slur is actually primarily used as a real word...second slur existed strictly as a slur...


what gives?


=====================

Why do I get the feeling that the AAJA is negotiating with espn before issuing a statement?

[get these NETS]

That makes you a racist, sorry to break it to you. You shouldn't even have to use slurs, if you were really their friends to begin with. Especially slurs that usually have a violent history attached to them.

think derb's post is a very poor attempt at humor,at least I hope that's what it is.

race is a topic that many feel uncomfortable discussing in an adult-like manner, so often people try to make jokes to mask the discomfort.

I HOPE that's what derb was doing...... if not..he goes the route of the slot machine worker in Casino


The 'I'm not racist...I have (insert race or ethnicity) friends" has been a joke/punchline for years.



derb, are we laughing WITH you or AT you???

[derb2k2]

think derb's post is a very poor attempt at humor,at least I hope that's what it is.

race is a topic that many feel uncomfortable discussing in an adult-like manner, so often people try to make jokes to mask the discomfort.

I HOPE that's what derb was doing...... if not..he goes the route of the slot machine worker in Casino


The 'I'm not racist...I have (insert race or ethnicity) friends" has been a joke/punchline for years.



derb, are we laughing WITH you or AT you???

it wasn't humor. I guess it's a testament to our friendship. I've known these people for more than a decade. Like I said, we don't do this outside our circle. Cmon fellas, I'm not a racist and am not some little kid trying to hide some insecure feelings. jeez some people just take life too serious.

[LA_Showtime]

Part of me thinks that headline is ****ing hilarious. I mean come on, how can you not laugh if you have a sense of humor?

On the other hand, I think it's ****ing ignorant and it really pisses me off how ESPN isn't getting more shit for that. Had that said "LeBron gets whipped" you know for damn certain every black man in America would be on that shit. Double standards are stupid.

[The Macho Man]

:roll: :roll: :roll: That's so tight. By far the best Lin pun:applause:

[Nevaeh]

Part of me thinks that headline is ****ing hilarious. I mean come on, how can you not laugh if you have a sense of humor?

On the other hand, I think it's ****ing ignorant and it really pisses me off how ESPN isn't getting more shit for that. Had that said "LeBron gets whipped" you know for damn certain every black man in America would be on that shit. Double standards are stupid.

Maybe because of the history of the word maybe? I always get a kick out of how people get stuck on stupid when it's not their race that's being made fun of, yet pitch a b!tch when the slurs and stereotypes start coming their way.

[Killbot]

They should have said kink in the armor. I'm surprised they use the another term.

[The Macho Man]

Maybe because of the history of the word maybe? I always get a kick out of how people get stuck on stupid when it's not their race that's being made fun of, yet pitch a b!tch when the slurs and stereotypes start coming their way.

As a white person there is nothing that could be said to me about being white that could possibly offend me. Anyone who got legitimately upset about that headline is probably taking things too seriously and is no fun whatsoever.

[adri41]

They should have said kink in the armor. I'm surprised they use the another term.

But "kink" isn't the correct term in the context of the phrase. That wouldn't have made sense. It simply should not have been said at all, which is why it was removed so quickly.

[get these NETS]

it wasn't humor. I guess it's a testament to our friendship. I've known these people for more than a decade. Like I said, we don't do this outside our circle. Cmon fellas, I'm not a racist and am not some little kid trying to hide some insecure feelings. jeez some people just take life too serious.
derb,

read my post again.

I commented on your "i'm not racist....I date so and so" comment..THAT is such bullshit that it's funny... and you know it. Going out with...or having friends of another group/race/ethnicity doesn't preclude you(or anybody) from being racist. and saying so is such a joke.

====================

didn't comment on the first part because I'm certain there are close friends who feel comfortable speaking to each other in certain ways..probably younger guys though.

You get older and out into the world, think that will change.





at any rate....be easy...

[Killbot]

But "kink" isn't the correct term in the context of the phrase. That wouldn't have made sense. It simply should not have been said at all, which is why it was removed so quickly.

I'm no English genius, but when applying to this definition:

3.
a flaw or imperfection likely to hinder the successful operation of something,

it makes sense to me.

[get these NETS]

As a white person there is nothing that could be said to me about being white that could possibly offend me. Anyone who got legitimately upset about that headline is probably taking things too seriously and is no fun whatsoever.


Move to a country where you are a minority group and I'd bet money that you wouldn't feel the same way.

[talkingconch]

They've used that headline before yep.

http://www.faniq.com/blog/ESPN-*****-In-The-Armor-Team-USA-Basketball-Headline-Blog-11274
oh wow they have used it before.

[Nevaeh]

As a white person there is nothing that could be said to me about being white that could possibly offend me. Anyone who got legitimately upset about that headline is probably taking things too seriously and is no fun whatsoever.

Hence, why you wouldn't find the Headline racist. If you're a white American who has never had to deal with racism, being in the majority, of course you would not be offended.

:hammerhead:

[talkingconch]

As a white person there is nothing that could be said to me about being white that could possibly offend me. Anyone who got legitimately upset about that headline is probably taking things too seriously and is no fun whatsoever.

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb368/xTullyx/KattwilliamsWTF.gif

[Nevaeh]

====================

didn't comment on the first part because I'm certain there are close friends who feel comfortable speaking to each other in certain ways..probably younger guys though.

You get older and out into the world, think that will change.

at any rate....be easy...

And the excuse of "being young" still doesn't make it right. I've had white friends off and on (depending on neighborhood) since grade K, and never thought about calling them slurs "just for fun". His friends all have first names. Why not just use them instead?

[SleepyCorpse]

Are you kidding me? How can ESPN be that stupid.

I don't even wanna know what would've happened had that been a racial slur directed at an African American.

I heard they used a Nyjer Please , when some college kid named Nyjer hit a buzzer beater or something.

[get these NETS]

And the excuse of "being young" still doesn't make it right. I've had white friends off and on (depending on neighborhood) since grade K, and never thought about calling them slurs "just for fun". His friends all have first names. Why not just use them instead?


Neither you or I can tell him or the people he hangs with what they should be saying to one another...or what should be acceptable.

If he's friends with a guy who allows him to use ethnic slurs towards him, more of a reflection of how that person was raised than anything...OR being young and living in an insular and sheltered world.

Person goes out into the world, leaves that cocoon...experiences life outside of that circle...certain that most of their views will change.



===============================
glance through some of the posts on ish.... some VERY young guys here .......

you don't know who raised these young guys and what they know or don't know....


Life teaches what the family didn't.

[DMV2]

LOL, just the worst phrase you can use to write about an Asian player.

[derb2k2]

some of you gotta take it easy. It's not like I call my friends the slurs all the time. But we do it without hesitation because it's between us. I can understand how some of you can think that is immature and insensitive, but we are all different people and have our separate tastes and such.

and I'm 28 to be exact. None of this "kid" shit applies to me. I'm an independent adult who knows what he says and does. I happen to have a good sense of humor.

[The Choken One]

lol'd hard when I heard about this.

ESPN always brings the lulz.

[derb2k2]

lol'd hard when I heard about this.

ESPN always brings the lulz.


:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: for all of you that can have a chuckle about this. For the record, Espn should be scrutinized heavily for this.

[LA_Showtime]

Maybe because of the history of the word maybe? I always get a kick out of how people get stuck on stupid when it's not their race that's being made fun of, yet pitch a b!tch when the slurs and stereotypes start coming their way.

I think a did a bad job explaining why I thought that was funny. I just think it's hilarious how ignorant ESPN is pretending to be, and how they're acting like it was a mistake. They knew what they were doing. Anyone who's got an IQ above 10 knows what that word means.

I don't give a shit who's being made made fun of. I just think each situation should be handled the same way, and in this case I don't think it is. Like I said, had ESPN wrote, "LeBron got whipped" every damn news channel would be reporting how the world is such a terrible place.

[The Choken One]

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: for all of you that can have a chuckle about this. For the record, Espn should be scrutinized heavily for this.
Agreed. There's no excuse for letting something like this by.

But the fact that it did...is pretty damn funny.

[LA_Showtime]

As a white person there is nothing that could be said to me about being white that could possibly offend me. Anyone who got legitimately upset about that headline is probably taking things too seriously and is no fun whatsoever.

I don't blame Asians or even Blacks or Hispanics for getting upset. It was an ignorant thing to do and to say they're being overly sensitive is stupid. I do, however, think the situation is just hilarious because of how ignorant ESPN is acting and how every damn reporting unit seems to be pulling these types of stunts.

[DMV2]

Agreed. There's no excuse for letting something like this by.

But the fact that it did...is pretty damn funny.
Yeah, the stupidity of using such a phrase by a so-called "worldwide leader in sports" is what had me laughing. :lol

[The Macho Man]

Move to a country where you are a minority group and I'd bet money that you wouldn't feel the same way.

Nah, I don't give a shit about race and if someone wants to be racist towards me I'm not gonna sweat it, not gonna get mad because someone else is ignorant.

[Nevaeh]

Nah, I don't give a shit about race and if someone wants to be racist towards me I'm not gonna sweat it, not gonna get mad because someone else is ignorant.

A single person or group on the street being racist towards you is a bit different than a National Sports Network, seen and read around the world, being racist toward you. Stop being so naive.

:rolleyes:

[get these NETS]

I think a did a bad job explaining why I thought that was funny. I just think it's hilarious how ignorant ESPN is pretending to be, and how they're acting like it was a mistake. They knew what they were doing. Anyone who's got an IQ above 10 knows what that word means.

I don't give a shit who's being made made fun of. I just think each situation should be handled the same way, and in this case I don't think it is. Like I said, had ESPN wrote, "LeBron got whipped" every damn news channel would be reporting how the world is such a terrible place.
responses towards incidents involving different racial and ethnic groups in America will vary because of a number of factors.

Jews and Blacks have organizations that have been fighting against "situations" like this for decades.

These organizations exert different types of pressure to curtail blatantly racist media "incidents".

I'm sure organizations protecting Asians exist and exert pressure also, just not to the degree that the other groups do.(AAJA is mentioned during the whitlock comments)

You will see depictions of and slurs towards certain religious and ethnic groups in the media that just absolutely would NEVER fly about others because those groups aren't represented by organizations with power to exert that pressure.....or groups that would rather not do/say anything about it.

And because of that...there is no deterrent to prevent it from happening.

I include in that group Muslims, Catholics , Asians, Italians and Irish,,,Latinos to some extent too. I bet off the top of your head, you can think of direct and indirect disrespect shown towards these groups in print, tv and film


*Gays used to be part of the second group....now they are part of the first group.....

[niko]

I don't get peopel who keep saying "Well, with my friends we joke like this". Yes, we all do. But this is not your friends. This is a national media outlet. You can say things with your friends you can't bust out in a meeting at work, and ESPN is 1,000 times that, they have to watch what they say.

Basically, for some reason it's ok for the media to make fun of Jeremy Lin by race, and that's gotta stop.

[The Macho Man]

A single person or group on the street being racist towards you is a bit different than a National Sports Network, seen and read around the world, being racist toward you. Stop being so naive.

:rolleyes:

I'm sure Jeremy got a kick out of it. Or at least didn't give a shit.

[Faptastrophe]

Can't wait til Team USA Basketball visits France, allowing ESPN to break out its Jay-Z/Kanye headline!


N*ggas In Paris

[RazorBaLade]

As a white person there is nothing that could be said to me about being white that could possibly offend me. Anyone who got legitimately upset about that headline is probably taking things too seriously and is no fun whatsoever.

Wild guess here but I don't think white people enjoy being called Aryan scum or being a descendant of nazis and treated differently for it.

trailor trash and cracker ya thats not gonna offend any normal person, but nazi blood probably will.

[get these NETS]

Statement from the Asian American Journalist Association

http://www.aaja.org/news/mediawatch/2012_02_18/
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AAJA to ESPN: Saying '***** in the Armor' Is Inexcusable

February 18, 2012

Dear ESPN:

New York Knicks guard Jeremy Lin had a bad night Friday. Regrettably, so did ESPN. Using "a ***** in the armor" to describe Lin's poor performance was inexcusable.

We at the Asian American Journalists Association (AAJA) find it hard to fathom how such an offensive headline appeared on your publishing platforms. The phrase was even spoken on-air.

We are glad ESPN has recognized its mistake, and we appreciate the quick apology for the transgression.

Many people, not just in Asian American communities, are shocked that a news company with a long tradition of excellence would use a racial epithet. It's particularly galling because of the weeks of discussion about Lin, his heritage and even the wave of outright racism surrounding his stardom.

We are particularly concerned that an organization as large as yours did not have the proper checks in place to prevent the mistake. It is hard to fathom how editors on so many of your platforms failed to uphold your normally high standards.

Of course, it disappoints us to see one of our most valued and committed partners in diversity stumble. As you well know, this incident does not live up to the Leadership in Diversity Award that AAJA bestowed on ESPN in 2010. But we trust that you will transform this incident into a teachable moment.

We understand and appreciate that the offensive headline has been removed. But that's not enough. We would like to understand how it happened and what actions are being taken by ESPN to make sure such missteps do not recur. Your internal review could be instructive for others in our industry who want to improve the systems they have -- or need to put in place -- to ensure that fairness, accuracy and good taste are reflected in the news coverage of our communities.

As always, AAJA stands with you in our shared mission of diversity in America's newsrooms, and we welcome an opportunity to discuss how we can help you and your employees treat our communities with the fairness and respect they deserve.

Sincerely,

Doris Truong, AAJA National President
Bobby Caina Calvan and Jam Sardar, AAJA MediaWatch Co-Chairs

[get these NETS]

SNL skit about Lin


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/saturday-night-live-opens-jeremy-lin-sketch-spouts-puns-ny-knicks-guard-names-racial-sterotypes-article-1.1025301

[NumberSix]

So am I to understand that a perfectly legitimate word and a commonplace everyday phase is never allowed to be used when a Chinese person is involved? Is that the new rule? What's next? I can't ask a white waiter for crackers?

[Yung D-Will]

People are way to sensitive these days ( I'm black and I personally find it funny how quickly black people get offended by words they find offensive) get over it and move on. :oldlol:

[nathanjizzle]

So am I to understand that a perfectly legitimate word and a commonplace everyday phase is never allowed to be used when a Chinese person is involved? Is that the new rule? What's next? I can't ask a white waiter for crackers?

crackers is a noun. ***** is an adjective describing something or in a racist way someone. and yes it would be racist if you only asked a white waiter for crackers if you intended it to be a slur. imagine a black guy at a table asking a white waiter "can i have some crackers" and saying it in a context to be racist. Does it make it okay just because technically what he said wasnt? think alittle more dont be so 1 dimensional.

[nathanjizzle]

People are way to sensitive these days ( I'm black and I personally find it funny how quickly black people get offended by words they find offensive) get over it and move on. :oldlol:

who are you to say if someone should be offended or not? its ignorant to suggest that you have that right.

[Yung D-Will]

who are you to say if someone should be offended or not? its ignorant to suggest that you have that right.
I'm a person. Who has an opinion that I have the right to express. What's your point? They have a right to be offended? Doesn't mean I don't have the right to belive people these days are way to sensitive and way to quick to play the "racism" card.

These people includes Black,Latinos, Whites, Asians and anyone else .. People make way to big a deal out of being politically correct.

[GOBB]

Jeremy Lin "I'm not asian, I'm American. Born and raised near AlphaDog."

:roll:

[Go Getter]

who are you to say if someone should be offended or not? its ignorant to suggest that you have that right.
Dude is from Utah. He don't know any better.

[HylianNightmare]

no pics?

[Yung D-Will]

Dude is from Utah. He don't know any better.

Yawn and I live in Ny since like 4th grade. I've met all types of people in this state and I'm friends with a diverse group of people so what's your point? :oldlol:

[get these NETS]

espn tried to dodge the issue but snl put them on blast

plenty of people weren't aware of the story because of when it happened (late friday night) and because espn has a monopoly on sports reporting..but snl skit is gonna make people look up the story

and I'm certain that nbc universal sports will cover some aspect of the story


It's funny....an athlete makes either a foolish mistake or a blatant F-up and espn puts a microscope on him for a full week, somebody at espn(actually several somebodies) F-up..and you'd never know it happened.


What was the line from Michael Irvin?


"SAME INTENSITY !!!!!!!"

[Blue&Orange]

espn being espn


lin...welcome to the world of non white athletes...where "slurs" slip through somehow.....
Pretty sure black folks are more upset about Lin stardom than white folks. (imitates Larry David)... Pretty, pretty sure.

[305Baller]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsyngdqPtH1qi4qbso1_500.gif

[get these NETS]

Pretty sure black folks are more upset about Lin stardom than white folks. (imitates Larry David)... Pretty, pretty sure.


your opinion is based on what?



my comments were based on billy packer calling georgetown's allen iverson a quick little monkey ON AIR during a tv broadcast....and oh about 3-4 similar incidents I can think of.
golf channel woman "joking" that other golfers should lynch tiger woods so that they can win tourneys

that's why I welcomed lin to the club.


YOUR opinion is based on what?
ACTUAL interaction with your Black neighbors, co-workers and friends? or from what you read on the internet forums? or what mayweather said?



* don't watch cye so if it was sarcasm it sailed right over my head

[Go Getter]

They obviously made a mistake, not realizing the implications of that phrase with Lin. They didn't do that on purpose, come on.

They originally wanted to use "Lin Looking Yellow in Defeat" but they went with the other one.

This is why these corny ass hack MFers love Jeremy Lin, they have a whole new set of stale, unoriginal, semi-retarded "jokes" they can tell and they aren't black jokes which are no fun anymore because everyone is so politically correct.

***REALITY***

Blacks been tired of this shit, after hundreds of years of being called stupid ass names and having the same chicken and watermelon jokes hashed and re-hashed by corny-sounding MFers like bagelred, we decided enough was enough.

In awhile Lin will feel the same way believe me....he probably already does.

I wonder how he feels about fake ass Asians that talked down on him for playing ball but are on his jock now that he's a rising star in the NBA.

[Go Getter]

Yawn and I live in Ny since like 4th grade. I've met all types of people in this state and I'm friends with a diverse group of people so what's your point? :oldlol:


Yeah I bet you are buddy.

You sound really naive.

And you're not an authority or even semi-knowledgeable about this subject. You're too young and you're not down like that son fall back.

When I want to know about you and you're culture, well IF I did, I would do the same.

[NumberSix]

crackers is a noun. ***** is an adjective describing something or in a racist way someone. and yes it would be racist if you only asked a white waiter for crackers if you intended it to be a slur. imagine a black guy at a table asking a white waiter "can i have some crackers" and saying it in a context to be racist. Does it make it okay just because technically what he said wasnt? think alittle more dont be so 1 dimensional.
C.hink is also a noun. It means a crack, as in "a crack in the armour" meaning a weak point.

Wait a minute. You don't actually think the phrase "c.hink in the armour" means a chinese guy dressed like a knight, do you?

[get these NETS]

Outisde the Lines piece that aired BEFORE the controversy about Lin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIG3DOnilj0&feature=related

[The Macho Man]

C.hink is also a noun. It means a crack, as in "a crack in the armour" meaning a weak point.

Wait a minute. You don't actually think the phrase "c.hink in the armour" means a chinese guy dressed like a knight, do you?

:oldlol:

[get these NETS]

update


http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=7591778&wjb


At ESPN we are aware of three offensive and inappropriate comments made on ESPN outlets during our coverage of Jeremy Lin.

Saturday we apologized for two references. We have since learned of a similar reference Friday on ESPN Radio New York. The incidents were separate and different. We have engaged in a thorough review of all three and have taken the following action:

- The ESPN employee responsible for our Mobile headline has been dismissed.

- The ESPNEWS anchor has been suspended for 30 days.

- The radio commentator is not an ESPN employee.

We again apologize, especially to Mr. Lin. His accomplishments are a source of great pride to the Asian-American community, including the Asian-American employees at ESPN. Through self-examination, improved editorial practices and controls, and response to constructive criticism, we will be better in the future.

[The Macho Man]

No where in that apology does it say they don't hate chinese people. Outrage:mad:

[nightprowler10]

This would be an overreaction if it was a one-off. Since it obviously isn't, I'd be surprised if people come in here crying 'overreaction'.

[DMV2]

I don't like seeing people getting fired over stupid shit like this. Two weeks of suspension for the ESPNews anchor and 4 weeks of suspension for the headliner writer would have been enough.

Though...this isn't as lame as the Imus-Rutgers situation where a guy gets fired for saying "nappy-headed hoes."

[NumberSix]

I don't like seeing people getting fired over stupid shit like this. Two weeks of suspension for the ESPNews anchor and 4 weeks of suspension for the headliner writer would have been enough.

Though...this isn't as lame as the Imus-Rutgers situation where a guy gets fired for saying "nappy-headed hoes."
Yeah, but it's not like "nappy headed hoes" is a legitimate, common phrase that was perfectly within context.

[Nevaeh]

No where in that apology does it say they don't hate chinese people. Outrage:mad:

Well maybe that's why they got fired/suspended. Don't want to take any chances that they might have raving racist lunatics on the payroll.
:lol

[get these NETS]

update


fired espn editor is interviewed

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/jeremy-lin-slur-honest-mistake-fired-espn-editor-anthony-federico-claims-article-1.1025566


The ESPN editor fired Sunday for using "***** in the armor" in a headline about Knicks phenom Jeremy Lin said the racial slur never crossed his mind - and he was devastated when he realized his mistake.

"This had nothing to do with me being cute or punny," Anthony Federico told the Daily News.

"I'm so sorry that I offended people. I'm so sorry if I offended Jeremy."

The headline - "***** in the Armor: Jeremy Lin's 9 Turnovers Cost Knicks in Streak-stopping Loss to Hornets" - appeared on ESPN's mobile website at 2:30 a.m. on Saturday and was removed by 3:05 a.m.

Battling to contain a furor, the sports network fired Federico and suspended anchor Max Bretos for 30 days because it turned out he had used the same expression on the air last week. ESPN offered profuse mea culpas and promised to be "better in the future."

Federico, 28, said he understands why he was axed. "ESPN did what they had to do," he said.

He said he has used the phrase "at least 100 times" in headlines over the years and thought nothing of it when he slapped it on the Lin story.

Federico called Lin one of his heroes - not just because he's a big Knicks fan, but because he feels a kinship with a fellow "outspoken Christian."

"My faith is my life," he said. "I'd love to tell Jeremy what happened and explain that this was an honest mistake."


It was Federico's last headline of the night before heading home at 2:30 a.m. It might be the last he ever writes.

"I had a career that I was proud of," mourned Federico, who worked at ESPN since getting his start there as a temporary intern in 2006. "I'm devastated that I caused a firestorm."

A gracious Lin, who led the Knicks to another dazzling hardwood victory Sunday, gave Federico and Bretos the benefit of the doubt.

"They've apologized, and so from my end, I don't care anymore," Lin said. "You have to learn to forgive, and I don't even think that was intentional."

Bretos, too, said he didn't think of the slur Wednesday when he asked Knicks legend Walt (Clyde) Frazier about Lin on the air.

"If there is a ***** in the armor, where can he improve his game?" Bretos asked.

The moment passed almost entirely without notice. A video replay suggests Bretos was not trying to be funny but made a poor choice of colloquialism. He tweeted his apologies Saturday, saying he meant no racial reference but would be extra-careful in the future.

"My wife is Asian, would never intentionally say anything to disrespect her and that community," Bretos wrote. "Despite intention, phrase was inappropriate in this context."

Anchor Michael Kim took to Twitter to defend Bretos. "I truly believe it was an unfortunate use of words but I KNOW there was no malice there," he said

[get these NETS]

"My wife is Asian, would never intentionally say anything to disrespect her and that community," Bretos wrote. "Despite intention, phrase was inappropriate in this context."




http://fandaily.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Max-Bretos-Asian-wife-photos_thumb.jpg

[bluechox2]

shud have suspended him...firing him is unwarranted

[305Baller]

it's supposed to be "kink in the armor".

[imdaman99]

sad that he lost his job. he deserved to be reprimanded but fired??? cmon man

[hawksdogsbraves]

I agree, a firing seems really harsh from here.

[Lebron23]

He's an idiot.

[mrpibb]

I was reading derb's conversation with Neveah, and I have to say, I have no problem with racial slurs as long as the context makes it clear it's done in an amicable manner.

Go ahead, call me a wetback. A word doesn't mean anything if no meaning is attached to it.

[Flash88]

sad that he lost his job. he deserved to be reprimanded but fired??? cmon manA firing is warranted.

I mean, seriously, how dumb do you have to be to use that headline? Even if it's an honest mistake, it means he's an incompetent editor.