Empty Seats in Miami Ridiculous

[sixer6ad]

Yes...I'm beating the dead horse. What gives? They just have this amazing road trip, they are playing the best basketball since they got together, Dwight Howard was in the house, and....empty seats. Not only that -- it's a seriously boring crowd.

Too bad this union couldn't have happened in Seattle or OK City or NY City or Philly - somewhere where it would be a madhouse every game.

Empty seats to watch these guys play? It's the most embarassing NBA fan situation I have seen outside of every Atlanta Hawk game.

[Derrick]

Yes...I'm beating the dead horse. What gives? They just have this amazing road trip, they are playing the best basketball since they got together, Dwight Howard was in the house, and....empty seats. Not only that -- it's a seriously boring crowd.

Too bad this union couldn't have happened in Seattle or OK City or NY City or Philly - somewhere where it would be a madhouse every game.

Empty seats to watch these guys play? It's the most embarassing NBA fan situation I have seen outside of every Atlanta Hawk game.
The big three in a okc like environment would be great. :bowdown:

[Faptastrophe]

They have poor fan support plain and simple. Miami is not a basketball city. Most people from Miami move from other parts of the country too. Once the Knicks fans outcheered Heat fans when the Knicks played at Miami and a reason being alot of people from New Jersey and New York live in the Miami area. Alot of old people down there too since alot of old timders move down to Florida.

Can't blame them with all the parties, and hot woman in Miami. I'm sure many of us would take seeing hot naked latin woman on the beach over watching grown gigantic sized men sweating on a wood floor.

But yeah.. the seats usually are empty just at the beginning. They fill up at the and of the first half :D

[gyu]

Was there empty seats throughout the entire game? Because it's not unusual to see empty seats at the start or right after half time.

[kingBynum]

Miami fans are terrible. They don't even support their teams...at least la fans show up, albeit late :oldlol:

[Kurosawa0]

The big three in a okc like environment would be great. :bowdown:

I've always wondered how things would've turned out if they'd got together with the Knicks. That would've been insane.

[sixer6ad]

Was there empty seats throughout the entire game? Because it's not unusual to see empty seats at the start or right after half time.

Noticed it early...but then it just stayed that way. Honest to God, we are not built that way in NE Ohio. Big Game = Big Crowd that gets there early and rocks.

It's just different. If these 3 can't generate energy, it's just not going to happen.

[TheMan]

The Heat have 6 real fans, the rest are Wade and LBJ nvthuggers...

[donald_trump]

what game are you watching exactly? there are a few empty seats here and there, but its normal. people might have things to do, and not show up. its not like the magic are a must see team this year.

[BarberSchool]

Milwaukee is almost twice Miami's population. Miami ain't that big, plus it's all broke Haitians/caribbeans and retired NY yids. Neither of which spend plentifully on professional sporting event tickets. And the ones who do show up are all shy, quiet, boring phony pretentious types.

Horrible sports city. Great city if you like yola and ignorant gorgeous Carribean girls.

[305Baller]

Miami sucks, Im sick of these people.

[CelticBaller]

The Heat have 6 real fans, the rest are Wade and LBJ nvthuggers...
6 real fans? don't count family members

[RedBlackAttack]

Miami is not a sports city.
FYP

For some reason, this notion persists that Miami doesn't turn out well for the Heat because it's a "football city."

Fact is, "The U" football games and Dolphins games have seen similarly abhorrent fan support.

It is just the worst sports city in the country and I don't think it is close. Atlanta is bad too, but at least they turn out for the Falcons and the Braves used to have great support.

Miami is just flat-out pathetic.

[ChrisKreager]

Still better than the Laker crowd.

1. At least Miami's arena looks like an arena rather than a nightclub

2. The Miami fans who do show up actually make some noise, unlike the blase Laker crowds.

[Patrick Chewing]

what game are you watching exactly? there are a few empty seats here and there, but its normal. people might have things to do, and not show up. its not like the magic are a must see team this year.


Wade, Lebron, and Bosh and a winning ball club is not enough of a reason to show up??

[alwaysunny]

Miami has recently been ranked one of the most miserable cities in the US due to foreclosures. Consider the fact that Heat tickets are the priciest in the league, go figure.

[Jameerthefear]

The magic sell out every game but you hardly see anyone in the crowds because there is way too much to do in that arena.

[donald_trump]

FYP

For some reason, this notion persists that Miami doesn't turn out well for the Heat because it's a "football city."

Fact is, "The U" football games and Dolphins games have seen similarly abhorrent fan support.

It is just the worst sports city in the country and I don't think it is close. Atlanta is bad too, but at least they turn out for the Falcons and the Braves used to have great support.

Miami is just flat-out pathetic.

what are you 50 years old? you started posting like a bitter old man ever since lebron left cleveland. i never remember such outish comments on miami before then.

get over it already.

[NumberSix]

The Heat have 6 real fans, the rest are Wade and LBJ nvthuggers...
What's wrong with that? Unless you live in a city that has an NBA team, isn't it just common sense to prefer a team that has your favorite group of players? Otherwise, aren't you just blindly pledging allegiance to a name and logo attached to a revolving door of players for a city you don't even live in?

What if you live in Iowa? Who's supposed to be your team? Maybe when you got into basketball Allen Iverson was your favorite player. Are you now supposed to be a 76ers fan forever, even when Allen Iverson leaves?

IMO, if you don't live in a city with a team or a near by city, you're kinda forced to be a fan of specific players more than any particular franchise.

[RedBlackAttack]

I guess this is what a "football city" looks like these days...

http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/3646/gatechstands.jpg

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7069/miamicrowd.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7104/paltryobcrowd.jpg

[CLTHornets4eva]

Miami is constantly one of the worst sports cities in the country. Look at Dolphins, Marlins, Panthers and the U attendance. Pathetic. After a couple years it will be tough to sell playoff tickets.

[Bigsmoke]

Florida is a football state.

edit: i guess i'm wrong. **** it. they got fine bitches there at the beach so there are better things to do out there i guess.

I live in Chicago and i havent been to a Bulls game in like 5 years.

[TheMan]

What's wrong with that? Unless you live in a city that has an NBA team, isn't it just common sense to prefer a team that has your favorite group of players? Otherwise, aren't you just blindly pledging allegiance to a name and logo attached to a revolving door of players for a city you don't even live in?

What if you live in Iowa? Who's supposed to be your team? Maybe when you got into basketball Allen Iverson was your favorite player. Are you now supposed to be a 76ers fan forever, even when Allen Iverson leaves?

IMO, if you don't live in a city with a team or a near by city, you're kinda forced to be a fan of specific players more than any particular franchise.
Reading comprehension>you

We aee talking about how Miami's fans are pathetic, ever heard of their campaign to "Fan Up"?

[CLTHornets4eva]

Florida is a football state.
Miami 28th in NFL attendance.

[RedBlackAttack]

what are you 50 years old? you started posting like a bitter old man ever since lebron left cleveland. i never remember such outish comments on miami before then.

get over it already.
50 years old? What?

Outlandish comments? haha.

Do some research. Maybe you haven't "heard" about Miami drawing awful crowds for all its major sports teams because there is a myth that it is a great football town. It isn't.

My personal feelings toward the Heat have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it is not a sports town. At all.

Why don't you focus on the topic, not personal attacks? There is absolutely no defending the poor turnouts in all sports, but most obviously that ridiculous NBA team that they have.

[Apogee]

This is something that has pissed me of for years. All the real heat fans are up top cause the tickets are so damn expensive. People show up just to show their face. If you ever go to the game go the top cause thats where people get rowdy and thats where the true fans hang out. I always feel like just going down and taking those peoples seat cause you know they are just there to show their face. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
We do have real fans you just have to find them

[PJR]

Who cares....most of u broke mf'ers don't go to any games, so who are you to judge Miami fans? STFU.

[Eric Cartman]

Miami is filled with Cuban immigrants working 16 hours a day. Prostitute fine b*tches looking to get laid & a bunch of drug dealers looking to make hay-day. Not to mention so many things there are to do in Miami other than watch a basketball game.

[AngelEyes]

Miami is filled with Cuban immigrants working 16 hours a day. Prostitute fine b*tches looking to get laid & a bunch of drug dealers looking to make hay-day. Not to mention so many things there are to do in Miami other than watch a basketball game.

Why can't you do both? There's a million different things you can do in New York or Chicago yet their fans still show up. That's not an excuse.

[Wonder Bread Kid]

Milwaukee is almost twice Miami's population. Miami ain't that big, plus it's all broke Haitians/caribbeans and retired NY yids. Neither of which spend plentifully on professional sporting event tickets. And the ones who do show up are all shy, quiet, boring phony pretentious types.

Horrible sports city. Great city if you like yola and ignorant gorgeous Carribean girls.

I don't live in either city but dude, Miami is a metro of over 5 million people. Milwaukee is barely a metro of 1.5 million. So basically, Miami is nearly four times bigger than Milwaukee.

P.S.

There's no reason, no excuse, not one for Miami's sh!tty fan base. Not night life, not day time activities, not the beach, etc.

[RaininTwos]

I really don't understand why people care. They have empty seats. Ok. Why even bother making a thread about it?

[Jotaro Durant]

they didnt even sell out a finals games last year:roll:

one of the worst fanbased in Nba tbh

[cteach111]

was Miami always like this? even back in the late 90s days when those Miami teams were legit?

[dunksby]

The only good thing to come out of Miami is Dexter and he is a serial killer, go figure...

[CLTHornets4eva]

Who cares....most of u broke mf'ers don't go to any games, so who are you to judge Miami fans? STFU.

You sound very intelligent and not broke. :lol

[d21221hk]

The only good thing to come out of Miami is Dexter and he is a serial killer, go figure...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbOGuk4CPA

[PJR]

I really don't understand why people care. They have empty seats. Ok. Why even bother making a thread about it?

That's what I'm saying. Who cares? :oldlol:

[Draz]

I believe Lebron was aware of this before he even tested free agency to go to Miami. I don't think he cares about the crowed, doubt Wade does either. James been there, I definitely don't believe the population of the crowed and the romance they would of given effected him much on going to MIA.

If he had went to NY though, that shit would be LIVE. He would of been HUGE, the media here explodes everything. Look at Lin. If Lin wasn't from NY, I 100% guarantee you, he would be the talk of the town but never the talk of the country, the talk world-wide.

[MMM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbOGuk4CPA
Wow @ 10 mins of that

[CLTHornets4eva]

The only good thing to come out of Miami is Dexter and he is a serial killer, go figure...
... And it's filmed in LA:lol

[EnoughSaid]

Did you guys watch the playoffs last year? Stadium was packed before tip off. It's just people know the Heat are going to win, and they only gear up and come during playoff time. However, it isn't cool to show up late every game.

[d21221hk]

I believe Lebron was aware of this before he even tested free agency to go to Miami. I don't think he cares about the crowed, doubt Wade does either. James been there, I definitely don't believe the population of the crowed and the romance they would of given effected him much on going to MIA.

If he had went to NY though, that shit would be LIVE. He would of been HUGE, the media here explodes everything. Look at Lin. If Lin wasn't from NY, I 100% guarantee you, he would be the talk of the town but never the talk of the country, the talk world-wide.

If I were lebron I`d rather play in front of an empty crowd than a booing crowd during last year`s finals if you know what I mean.

[HiphopRelated]

Was there empty seats throughout the entire game? Because it's not unusual to see empty seats at the start or right after half time.
it's always this

These idiots don't use common sense

There are 2 times you see a general flash of the arena, the start and half time

It's a non issue

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/sort/homePct

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/36/fullj.562685caeec87e25568fef22a905de5d/562685caeec87e25568fef22a905de5d-getty-139360532.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/7e/fullj.6140527b9b2cc836cade7916e37b1627/6140527b9b2cc836cade7916e37b1627-getty-139360539.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/81/fullj.cd7bcaf54c5c670866ba053c6fa5705e/cd7bcaf54c5c670866ba053c6fa5705e-getty-139360523.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/7c/fullj.28c9c11ef2dee7e9d543a9e42792618f/28c9c11ef2dee7e9d543a9e42792618f-getty-139360530.jpg

They must be CGI

[Aidz]

Raptors cheering Lin the other night was pretty embarrassing...but I take your point. Miami doesn't know how good they've got it.

[Draz]

Lol I think that must be the most embarrassing moment in NBA. Raptors cheering for Lin hahahaha.

[imdaman99]

when the knicks visit next week, its gonna be a packed house right? but is it gonna look like a packed house? i swear all them seats in the front look empty as fcuk

[dunksby]

... And it's filmed in LA:lol
:roll: :roll:

[donald_trump]

it's always this

These idiots don't use common sense

There are 2 times you see a general flash of the arena, the start and half time

It's a non issue

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/sort/homePct

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/36/fullj.562685caeec87e25568fef22a905de5d/562685caeec87e25568fef22a905de5d-getty-139360532.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/7e/fullj.6140527b9b2cc836cade7916e37b1627/6140527b9b2cc836cade7916e37b1627-getty-139360539.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/81/fullj.cd7bcaf54c5c670866ba053c6fa5705e/cd7bcaf54c5c670866ba053c6fa5705e-getty-139360523.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/7c/fullj.28c9c11ef2dee7e9d543a9e42792618f/28c9c11ef2dee7e9d543a9e42792618f-getty-139360530.jpg

They must be CGI

lol wow. op got owned.

[HEAT111]

Just like how I stated in another thread. Nobody knows what it means to live in Miami until you live there. And I don't believe it either when people say, its not a "Basketball City"; not true, just look at the late 90's. Also, Miami detrimental econimical system, which includes corruption and maipulation. Miami is poor marketting team due to many reason. Now ticket prices skyrocketting, depending on the games cheapest tickets are around $200. I'd love to go a game. Unfortunately in this economy these days, just makes it difficult.

[Lebron23]

I love the Miami Heat's alternate black uniform. Nice shoes by Quentin Richardson.

[HEAT111]

I love the Miami Heat's alternate black uniform. Nice shoes by Quentin Richardson.

I keep on reminiscing Spiderman 3 with those uniforms.

[Marv_Albert]

http://northwesternairlines.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/american-airlines-arena.jpg

You Serious Brah?

[RedBlackAttack]

it's always this

These idiots don't use common sense

There are 2 times you see a general flash of the arena, the start and half time

It's a non issue

They must use CGI

They must...



http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7418/87753941.jpg

^^^Hmmm... Doesn't look like just before tip... Or halftime. And that is a playoff game... Against the Celtics.




http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9430/miamiheatempty550x412.jpg

^^^The players must have been providing some kind of halftime exhibition game in this picture. :confusedshrug:



http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4103/ajxiidwadepe5.jpg

^^^Once again, it looks like the Heat have the most entertaining pregame and halftime performances in the league. Wade must have been on his way to the locker room in this shot?



http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2770/heatfail.jpg

^^^I just can't figure out why the scoreboard says it is midway through the first quarter on this one when it is CLEARLY either just before tip or at halftime. :confusedshrug:



http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3999/tayshaunprincedetroitpi.jpg


Why won't these people use common sense?!

[Lebron23]

I keep on reminiscing Spiderman 3 with those uniforms.


:lol :lol :lol

[DirtySanchez]

Fan up Miami! Lmao

[CLTHornets4eva]

I think it may be that people buy tickets and just don't show up, or they show up really late ( like they do in Atlanta).

[Droid101]

Miami Heat, the only team in the league that has to tell its fans how to be fans:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dheB93ivuaM/TdwWUt4RDLI/AAAAAAAAAWk/CwBDIJdreNk/s1600/FAN%2BUP.jpg

[Gundress]

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]They must...



http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7418/87753941.jpg

^^^Hmmm... Doesn't look like just before tip... Or halftime. And that is a playoff game... Against the Celtics.


:roll: :roll: :roll:


Can't believe it that they got LeBron, Wade, Bosh and still yet that there still many empty seats especially playoff :facepalm :facepalm

Heat got the worst fans.

[Poodle]

the-Cav's-had-full-lower-rows-filled-from-the-start-yesterday...

and-i'm-sure-people-probably-move-down-from-top-rows-if-they-see-lower-rows-empty-which-probably-explains-why-those-seats-fill-up-later.

we-used-to-do-that-at-Orioles-games.

it-is-ridiculous-tho-that-the-team-with-the-best-players-has-such-poor-attendance-even-if-its-not-just-them.

[Poodle]

They must...



http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7418/87753941.jpg

^^^Hmmm... Doesn't look like just before tip... Or halftime. And that is a playoff game... Against the Celtics.




http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9430/miamiheatempty550x412.jpg

^^^The players must have been providing some kind of halftime exhibition game in this picture. :confusedshrug:



http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4103/ajxiidwadepe5.jpg

^^^Once again, it looks like the Heat have the most entertaining pregame and halftime performances in the league. Wade must have been on his way to the locker room in this shot?



http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2770/heatfail.jpg

^^^I just can't figure out why the scoreboard says it is midway through the first quarter on this one when it is CLEARLY either just before tip or at halftime. :confusedshrug:



http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3999/tayshaunprincedetroitpi.jpg


Why won't these people use common sense?!


:eek:

[CLTHornets4eva]

the-Cav's-had-full-lower-rows-filled-from-the-start-yesterday...

and-i'm-sure-people-probably-move-down-from-top-rows-if-they-see-lower-rows-empty-which-probably-explains-why-those-seats-fill-up-later.

we-used-to-do-that-at-Orioles-games.

it-is-ridiculous-tho-that-the-team-with-the-best-players-has-such-poor-attendance-even-if-its-not-just-them.

Poodle you need to fix your computer.:facepalm

The bobcats are about the worse team ever and we are averaging the 14th best attendance... The Pacers, bucks Hawks And grizzlies are all 22nd or worse and playoff caliber teams. That is really pathetic.

[RaininTwos]

Poodle you need to fix your computer.:facepalm

The bobcats are about the worse team ever and we are averaging the 14th best attendance... The Pacers, bucks Hawks And grizzlies are all 22nd or worse and playoff caliber teams. That is really pathetic.
That is pathetic. I don't know why people are showing up to see the Bobcats play. Save your money.

[derb2k2]

only at the beginning of yesterday's game did I see empty seats. They are a late -arriving crowd here in Miami that's for sure. But let me just say this, the Miami area, excluding the beach and North Miami are mostly latino peoples whose average income is mostly less than 35,000 a year. Many people are living off the government and have a hard time getting by. Couple that with the ticket prices and you'd have a good idea why there are empty seats even during regular season games. Playoff games?? even more expensive. Most of the Heat fans I know are from North Miami and up. Same thing for the Miami Dolphins, most people come from up North to watch the games.

[JohnnyWall]

Miami just plain sucks.

[blablabla]

Miami Heat, the only team in the league that has to tell its fans how to be fans:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dheB93ivuaM/TdwWUt4RDLI/AAAAAAAAAWk/CwBDIJdreNk/s1600/FAN%2BUP.jpg
what real heat fans are made of ?
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7418/87753941.jpg


looks like 100%cotton no synthetic stuff

[keepinitreal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pq5CHvQkGI

[DuMa]

if lebron and wade the top 2 stars wont bring in the people then nothing will....

Miami is a transient city. People are always on the move and don't necessarily live there 24/7. the people that can afford lower bowl seats will not show up on time as always because there is too many things going on outside the arena for them. weather is always nice, business deals, etc.

Playoffs, i can agree that Miami does fan up for those.

[Clutch]

Still better than the Laker crowd.

1. At least Miami's arena looks like an arena rather than a nightclub

2. The Miami fans who do show up actually make some noise, unlike the blase Laker crowds.
Staples Center is one of the most beautiful arenas in the NBA.

At least the Lakers edition.

[swi7ch]

It's the regular season, who cares? They will go the the Finals and ppl will start watching them then. They're too good and nobody can beat them so just save your money when it truly matters---the Finals.

[RedBlackAttack]

the people that can afford lower bowl seats will not show up on time as always because there is too many things going on outside the arena for them. weather is always nice, business deals, etc.

That is just such a massive cop-out. I agree with you about it being a transient city and that is the reason it doesn't have a home grown fanbase that is engrained in the culture like other cities, but to assume that people are too busy at the club or at the beach or 'making business deals' to make it to the game is just silly.

If people in New York or LA or Chicago aren't too preoccupied to make tip, Miami doesn't get the benefit of that excuse.

People just don't care because they are not the least bit passionate about the team or franchise.

[swi7ch]

This is why MIA has the worst crowd:

http://i.imgur.com/bmxQQ.jpg


Why would you watch a basketball game (especially when you know MIA's going to win)? :confusedshrug:

[CelticBaller]

This is why MIA has the worst crowd:

http://i.imgur.com/bmxQQ.jpg


Why would you watch a basketball game (especially when you know MIA's going to win)? :confusedshrug:
because you want to support your team, maybe if you guys actually showed up in the playoffs they would've won :oldlol:

[sixer6ad]

I believe Lebron was aware of this before he even tested free agency to go to Miami. I don't think he cares about the crowed, doubt Wade does either. James been there, I definitely don't believe the population of the crowed and the romance they would of given effected him much on going to MIA.

If he had went to NY though, that shit would be LIVE. He would of been HUGE, the media here explodes everything. Look at Lin. If Lin wasn't from NY, I 100% guarantee you, he would be the talk of the town but never the talk of the country, the talk world-wide.

I agree with the NY aspect; would have been insane. I do, though, think the fans in Miami (or lack of) are noticed. His life - on any court - has been insane since his freshmen year of HS. It continued in Cleveland. When he was in his home gym, it was packed and it was the event of the day. I seriously think this lack of energy and singular focus on the event involving him has impacted him. It's not that exciting to them. I would not be shocked if he misses the level of bedlam that he had for nearly every game for 11 years.

[swi7ch]

because you want to support your team, maybe if you guys actually showed up in the playoffs they would've won :oldlol:

Why the hell would they need "support?" They will coast to the Finals and that's the only reason why you should watch their games. Any other night, just have fun in beautiful MIAMI! :bowdown:

[RedBlackAttack]

Why the hell would they need "support?" They will coast to the Finals and that's the only reason why you should watch their games. Any other night, just have fun in beautiful MIAMI! :bowdown:
You just succinctly explained the difference between passionate sports cities and Miami. The thing that you don't seem to get is that you could offer someone in Cleveland or Boston or New York the chance to attend some massive beach/pool party for a night or have the best team in the league in their city and a chance to go to a game, and that person chooses the game every single time.

When you have a great team in a city that really cares, the journey to the top is the even more fun than the end result. The idea that you only deem "The Finals" worthwhile is pretty comical... And not the way most other even general sports fans feel... Let alone diehard fans.

[NumberSix]

The thing that you don't seem to get is that you could offer someone in Cleveland or Boston or New York the chance to attend some massive beach/pool party for a night or.......
Why in the world would there be a pool party in Cleveland?... Boston?..... New York in February?

[RedBlackAttack]

Why in the world would there be a pool party in Cleveland?... Boston?..... New York in February?
Oh, I meant to throw this in... You could offer them a plane ticket and allow them to attend some beach/pool party in Miami.

Fact is, a Cleveland/Boston/NY sports fan takes the game 10 times out of 10. This idea that there is too much to do in Miami for them to care about sports is just silly.

You make time for things that you care about.

Are there not busy businessmen in Cleveland? Or New York City? Or Boston?

[305Baller]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/155/594/yesitis2.gif

:D

[OKCThunderUP]

They have poor fan support plain and simple. Miami is not a basketball city. Most people from Miami move from other parts of the country too. Once the Knicks fans outcheered Heat fans when the Knicks played at Miami and a reason being alot of people from New Jersey and New York live in the Miami area. Alot of old people down there too since alot of old timders move down to Florida.

Can't blame them with all the parties, and hot woman in Miami. I'm sure many of us would take seeing hot naked latin woman on the beach over watching grown gigantic sized men sweating on a wood floor.

But yeah.. the seats usually are empty just at the beginning. They fill up at the and of the first half :D

Its not an anything city. The Dolphins can't fill seats either.

[ThatsGame]

Oh, I meant to throw this in... You could offer them a plane ticket and allow them to attend some beach/pool party in Miami.

Fact is, a Cleveland/Boston/NY sports fan takes the game 10 times out of 10. This idea that there is too much to do in Miami for them to care about sports is just silly.

You make time for things that you care about.

Are there not busy businessmen in Cleveland? Or New York City? Or Boston?

Why do you care so much about the lifestyles of people in different parts of the country? People in Miami are accustomed to going to beach, etc. People in colder parts of the country do other things. Like huddle up inside a basketball arena.

Really, who the **** cares. They were like 4th or so in attendance last year.

[OKCThunderUP]

There are infinitely more things to do in LA than in Miami yet they have sellouts every night.

[Heavincent]

Why do you care so much about the lifestyles of people in different parts of the country? People in Miami are accustomed to going to beach, etc. People in colder parts of the country do other things. Like huddle up inside a basketball arena.


Oh, so we're blaming it on the weather now? Then what about all of the California teams? Just look at Golden State, their team has been mediocre for years, yet the arena is always packed and the fans are going wild.

[RedBlackAttack]

Why do you care so much about the lifestyles of people in different parts of the country? People in Miami are accustomed to going to beach, etc. People in colder parts of the country do other things. Like huddle up inside a basketball arena.

Really, who the **** cares. They were like 4th or so in attendance last year.
I didn't make the thread. I'm just commenting on some of the erroneous things being said in it... Like that there are rabid NBA fanbases in other parts of the country so that people can huddle together to get out of the cold. :oldlol:

When the NBA season really starts heating up, it isn't even cold in most of the midwestern and northeastern cities that are home to NBA teams. April and May in Ohio are actually quite pleasant... Same in NYC.

In fact, the weather in those cities during those months isn't the least bit invasive or even noticeable... Unlike southern Florida, which gets absurdly hot and uncomfortable, imo. I couldn't imagine living in that intense heat all year round... Couldn't do it.


I have a feeling that the vast majority of the people commenting in threads like this don't live in the places being discussed and may have never been to any of them.

Can we all just admit that Miami's being a rotten sports city has absolutely nothing to do with weather or business meetings or people clubbing 24 hours a day, but because it is a transient city with a lot of people coming and going which results in a very static, ever-changing culture? Thus, unlike cities like Boston or NYC or Chicago or Cleveland, these sports teams aren't generally passed down from generation-to-generation as a communal gathering that helps carve out the identity of the city itself.

That isn't to say that there aren't diehard Heat fans, but they simply don't number the hoards of followers in cities that are less transient and the sports teams are literally a way of life, not just something to do on a random Friday night.

[tomtucker]

Still better than the Laker crowd.

1. At least Miami's arena looks like an arena rather than a nightclub

2. The Miami fans who do show up actually make some noise, unlike the blase Laker crowds.

celtics and bulls crowds are much worse.......so silent, so boring..........miami is not that bad, noise and cheering wise

[Bigsmoke]

Oh, so we're blaming it on the weather now? Then what about all of the California teams? Just look at Golden State, their team has been mediocre for years, yet the arena is always packed and the fans are going wild.


The Lakers is a well successful fanchise for decades when the Heat been around for what? 20 Years?

And I do believe that the nba fans out in Oakland and Sacramento are wasting their money going to those games.

[donald_trump]

redblackattack, you have to be the most bitter old douchebag ever. cleveland sucks. get over it. and did you really post a picture of the heat-celtics playoff game? you have to be stupid to think it wasnt sold out. i know you watched the games, cried at the same time, but still managed to see the fact that it was full. that must have been right as the third quarter started.

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

have fun looking at those attendance figures. lol. seems like cleveland is the one that needs to fan up. judging by the numbers that come through the gates, miami is doing just fine.

[DFish]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.

[Scholar]

:oldlol: @ people comparing the Heat fans to the Lakers fans. Staples Center is sold-out almost every night, even when the games are against some run-of-the-mill, below .500 teams.

Miami's crowd only shows up during the Playoffs. That's when the bandwagoners gather to cheer for 3 players, all while not knowing the names of anybody else on the roster.

[dude77]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.

as opposed to all those cool people in los angeles who riot and destroy their own town like a bunch dumb monkeys when they 'disagree' with something .. good stuff

[SpecialQue]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.

http://www.gabeswebsite.com/images/reaction/double_take.gif

[SpecialQue]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.

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[SpecialQue]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.

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[AMISTILLILL]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.

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[SpecialQue]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.

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[derb2k2]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.


:facepalm Both Los Angeles and Miami have their shitty sectors and nice, well-to-do sectors. Calling Miami shitty is just uncalled for as I'm sure you've never put a foot on Miami soil. I've lived in both LA and Miami so I know what I'm talking about when I say this.

[SpecialQue]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.

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[SpecialQue]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/Madeupfred/9qm7Q.gif

[HurricaneKid]

There are infinitely more things to do in LA than in Miami yet they have sellouts every night.

I have no understanding of how we could be making this comparison.

LA Metro Area- 12.2M people. The team is the most historic franchise in the NBA (and I'm generally called a HATER)

Miami- Newer franchise in SMALL Baseball/Football area. Population 399k.

I mean they aren't even comparable. Sure the fans suck. Of course they do. They are old retirees waiting to die and young hipsters too cool to show up in the first half.

[DFish]

as opposed to all those cool people in los angeles who riot and destroy their own town like a bunch dumb monkeys when they 'disagree' with something .. good stuff

Those are mexicans and blacks. White people in LA don't riot.

[Velocirap31]

Miami- Newer franchise in SMALL Baseball/Football area. Population 399k.


Really? I never knew Miami was so small in population. No wonder its tough to fill seats.

[RaininTwos]

I have no understanding of how we could be making this comparison.

LA Metro Area- 12.2M people. The team is the most historic franchise in the NBA (and I'm generally called a HATER)

Miami- Newer franchise in SMALL Baseball/Football area. Population 399k.

I mean they aren't even comparable. Sure the fans suck. Of course they do. They are old retirees waiting to die and young hipsters too cool to show up in the first half.

Dude MIA metro is like 6 million.

[clayton]

LA and Miami is too brown for me.

[d21221hk]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzbnak4gg21qavwtjo1_500.png

[REACTION]

The city of Los Angeles: 3,792,621
The city of Miami: 399,457

LA metro area: 12,874,797
Miami metro area: 5,564,635

[G-train]

who cares?
once again lebron haters and some cavs/lakers fans

[ThunderKat]

The city of Los Angeles: 3,792,621
The city of Miami: 399,457

LA metro area: 12,874,797
Miami metro area: 5,564,635

This!!! Plus, OKC and the metro has about 1.4 million people and they manage a pretty high attendance rate.

[comerb]

Wade, Lebron, and Bosh and a winning ball club is not enough of a reason to show up??

It's Miami...

[SpecialQue]

The city of Los Angeles: 3,792,621
The city of Miami: 399,457

LA metro area: 12,874,797
Miami metro area: 5,564,635

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k497/animalsbeingdicks/abd-206.gif

[comerb]

This!!! Plus, OKC and the metro has about 1.4 million people and they manage a pretty high attendance rate.

Have you ever been to Oklahoma? There isn't shit else to do.

[Scholar]

as opposed to all those cool people in los angeles who riot and destroy their own town like a bunch dumb monkeys when they 'disagree' with something .. good stuff

Hey, hey, hey! Actually, we burn our own town and riot even after the Lakers win a championship. :rockon:
































I don't partake. It's embarrassing... And highly degrading as an LAL fan.

[donald_trump]

:oldlol: @ people comparing the Heat fans to the Lakers fans. Staples Center is sold-out almost every night, even when the games are against some run-of-the-mill, below .500 teams.

Miami's crowd only shows up during the Playoffs. That's when the bandwagoners gather to cheer for 3 players, all while not knowing the names of anybody else on the roster.

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

you la fans need to fan up. miami fans have you beat.

[kingBynum]

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

you la fans need to fan up. miami fans have you beat.LMAO...LA has two teams that sell out every night. Clippers sell out on roads game too:bowdown:

[RedBlackAttack]

redblackattack, you have to be the most bitter old douchebag ever. cleveland sucks. get over it. and did you really post a picture of the heat-celtics playoff game? you have to be stupid to think it wasnt sold out. i know you watched the games, cried at the same time, but still managed to see the fact that it was full. that must have been right as the third quarter started.

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

have fun looking at those attendance figures. lol. seems like cleveland is the one that needs to fan up. judging by the numbers that come through the gates, miami is doing just fine.
A. Why the personal attacks? It is juvenile and completely uncalled for in such a benign discussion. If you want to debate the topic, have at it. If you want to get all p!ssy like a tween girl, I suggest you take a deep breath and collect yourself before posting.


B. When those attendance figures were calculated, the Cavs had the 24th ranked record in the league. So, the attendance has actually outperformed the level of play by the team so far this season. If you haven't yet noticed, there is a strong correlation between where teams are in the actual standings and where they rank in attendance.

Why don't you go up to the drop-down menu and take a look at 2006-11, where the Cavs ranked in the Top 5 in the league EVERY season, including Top 3 in five of those six seasons... even though the city's population is one of the smallest in the country to own a professional team.

Cleveland owned the second highest attendance rate LAST season, even with the second worst record.


C. If you really want to make a 1 to 1 comparison between Heat attendance and Cavs attendance (very stupid in the first place given the variables of each city and team), you certainly don't do it when one is a lottery team and the other has had arguably the greatest infusion of prime talent that the league has ever seen.

You do it when both teams are in a comparable position. The Heat ranked 15th in attendance with a 47-win playoff team in 2010 and while showcasing one of the league's very best players in his prime. The Cavs ranked 5th in attendance during a 50-win season in 2006 and while showcasing one of the league's very best players not yet in his prime.


D. If you can't see the difference between fanbases with diehard fans that really truly live and die with their teams and what is happening in Miami, I'm not sure what to tell you. Yeah, I'm quite sure that the playoff game against the Celtics last year was "sold-out," but it was midway through the first quarter and there were quite clearly empty seats all over the place.

Do you think that if you go back and take a look at ANY Cavs home playoff game ever or ANY Boston home playoff game ever or ANY Knicks home playoff game ever, you will witness a sight like that?

I would hope that having the two best players in the league and another Top 15 guy would result in the selling of tickets. However, there is a difference between buying a ticket and cheering... Or even being able to show up before the action has already begun to heat up.


If you watch Heat games and see empty seats all over the place and think to yourself, "that would happen anywhere with a team like this"... Rest assured, it wouldn't and doesn't. That is really what this is about, not how many tickets they actually sell... Or are bought by scalpers in the hopes of selling.

Now, come back with some personal insults. That will really prove your point. Quite frankly, I never paid much attention to you on this site. It is clear that you harbor some serious resentment toward me, though.

[Bigsmoke]

Still don't know why people care about this kind of shit.

If someone in a certain area who doesn't want to waste his hard earned money to watch something that they can watch at home or at the bars then so be it.

[Mean Joe Bean]

..

[Mean Joe Bean]

The crowd at Heat games is a very "corporate" crowd. Not really the type that get loud and rowdy. The real fans probably can't even afford tickets. Those people you see are rich people who are only there because it is the "cool" thing to do and can't even name 4 players on the team.

Watch the crowd in a Heat home game as the 1st quarter is starting. 1/4 of it is probably empty. Notoriously late-arriving fans and early to leave too. Just pathetic fans all around.

[R.I.P.]

Can't blame them with all the parties, and hot woman in Miami. I'm sure many of us would take seeing hot naked latin woman on the beach over watching grown gigantic sized men sweating on a wood floor.



Especially when the women are cheaper than the seats.

[ThatsGame]

Especially when the women are cheaper than the seats.

Heat seats are cheap?

[donald_trump]

A. Why the personal attacks? It is juvenile and completely uncalled for in such a benign discussion. If you want to debate the topic, have at it. If you want to get all p!ssy like a tween girl, I suggest you take a deep breath and collect yourself before posting.


because youre a bitter old man that goes into every miami/lebron thread with an agenda.


B. When those attendance figures were calculated, the Cavs had the 24th ranked record in the league. So, the attendance has actually outperformed the level of play by the team so far this season. If you haven't yet noticed, there is a strong correlation between where teams are in the actual standings and where they rank in attendance.

yeah, well miami is still selling out... so... that was your whole point; saying they don't, when in fact they do.


Why don't you go up to the drop-down menu and take a look at 2006-11, where the Cavs ranked in the Top 5 in the league EVERY season, including Top 3 in five of those six seasons... even though the city's population is one of the smallest in the country to own a professional team.

thats fine. every city gets behind their team when they are playing well or have the biggest name in basketball.



C. If you really want to make a 1 to 1 comparison between Heat attendance and Cavs attendance (very stupid in the first place given the variables of each city and team), you certainly don't do it when one is a lottery team and the other has had arguably the greatest infusion of prime talent that the league has ever seen.

You do it when both teams are in a comparable position. The Heat ranked 15th in attendance with a 47-win playoff team in 2010 and while showcasing one of the league's very best players in his prime. The Cavs ranked 5th in attendance during a 50-win season in 2006 and while showcasing one of the league's very best players not yet in his prime.


yes if you are looking at overall numbers. if you look at percentages, they are pretty much identical. :oldlol: you cant blame a team for having a slightly smaller stadium.


D. If you can't see the difference between fanbases with diehard fans that really truly live and die with their teams and what is happening in Miami, I'm not sure what to tell you. Yeah, I'm quite sure that the playoff game against the Celtics last year was "sold-out," but it was midway through the first quarter and there were quite clearly empty seats all over the place.

yep and you and the rest of these non-biased posters can, right. not like anyone harbors any ill feeling towards a super team in the league. :oldlol:




Now, come back with some personal insults. That will really prove your point. Quite frankly, I never paid much attention to you on this site. It is clear that you harbor some serious resentment toward me, though.

you dont have to pay attention. resentment? no. i just cant stand reading posts like yours. you make the forum a shitty place. its like taking old folks in the car and all they do is complain the whole time during the trip. that essentially sums up you on this board after the lebron trade.

[LakersReign]

:oldlol: @ people comparing the Heat fans to the Lakers fans. Staples Center is sold-out almost every night, even when the games are against some run-of-the-mill, below .500 teams.

Miami's crowd only shows up during the Playoffs. That's when the bandwagoners gather to cheer for 3 players, all while not knowing the names of anybody else on the roster.

:applause: :roll: :applause: :roll:

[Clutch]

:oldlol: @ people comparing the Heat fans to the Lakers fans. Staples Center is sold-out almost every night, even when the games are against some run-of-the-mill, below .500 teams.

Miami's crowd only shows up during the Playoffs. That's when the bandwagoners gather to cheer for 3 players, all while not knowing the names of anybody else on the roster.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu90/vanessa68_2009/Macros%20and%20gifs/3ea24fc3f2a6f2995fb1eafe225bac08.gif

[RedBlackAttack]

This will be quick...


because youre a bitter old man that goes into every miami/lebron thread with an agenda.
If that is how I come off, how do you think you come off when you quote a perfectly reasonable post containing absolutely nothing mean-spirited, not with a sound, succinct argument, but with personal attacks and insults? Maybe it would serve you well to add a little 'maturity' to your act?


yeah, well miami is still selling out... so... that was your whole point; saying they don't, when in fact they do.
Funny, because I don't believe I ever mentioned whether or not the games were technically 'sold out,' so I guess that wasn't my "whole point," eh? I specifically cited the 'turnout'... Which means whether or not the seats are filled while the game is happening, not if there were tickets that exchanged hands at some point.

If you can look at the pictures posted of half-filled arenas while games are taking place (even playoff games) and justify it as something that would happen all over the country given similar situations, good for you. I would disagree with that assertion.

I never remember a 'Fan Up' campaign in Cleveland or New York or Boston.


thats fine. every city gets behind their team when they are playing well or have the biggest name in basketball.
Except in Miami, apparently. :oldlol:


yes if you are looking at overall numbers. if you look at percentages, they are pretty much identical. :oldlol: you cant blame a team for having a slightly smaller stadium.
Or not. :oldlol:

Even if you look at them by percentages, that Cavs team was firmly within the Top 10 while Miami was even lower than the spot that they sported if you go by total attendance (16th).


yep and you and the rest of these non-biased posters can, right. not like anyone harbors any ill feeling towards a super team in the league. :oldlol:
Well, if you think that this...

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2770/heatfail.jpg

http://concede330.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/miami-heat-fans-pack-the-arena-after-fan-up-campaign-yes-all-10-of-them/


...is common for an elite NBA team in a great sports city for ANY game during ANY quarter against ANY opponent, then yeah... You are too biased to take part in this discussion. Because it isn't common. At all.

There is something to this discussion, whether you want to admit it or not. Most Heat fans have accepted the issues with the fans at games and have taken part in a reasonable dialogue. You would obviously rather blame the conversation on me.

What makes more sense?


you dont have to pay attention. resentment? no. i just cant stand reading posts like yours. you make the forum a shitty place. its like taking old folks in the car and all they do is complain the whole time during the trip. that essentially sums up you on this board after the lebron trade.

If you can't stand reading posts like mine, put me on ignore. There is a very simple solution to a non-problem. You know the people who make this forum a sh!tty place for me? Internet hot-heads that jump off the handle and turn a reasonable discussion into a battle of personal insults because your feelings were hurt somewhere along the line.

Toughen up. Smarten up. Use the forum features at your disposal.

[donald_trump]

the whole 'fan up' thing you are criticizing is because people show up late. not because they dont show up. read the thing.
who cares if they put it out there?

not a succinct argument? i posted the attendance records which completely negated your argument... lol. the turnout? the attendance record is based on the number that passes through the gates. so that turnout is 100% atm.
so what now? nothing.
people show up late? big deal. why do you care? they clearly like the team enough to show up.

cleveland was at 94% during their 50 win season while miami was at 93% during a 43 win season...

[305Baller]

This will be quick...


If that is how I come off, how do you think you come off when you quote a perfectly reasonable post containing absolutely nothing mean-spirited, not with a sound, succinct argument, but with personal attacks and insults? Maybe it would serve you well to add a little 'maturity' to your act?


Funny, because I don't believe I ever mentioned whether or not the games were technically 'sold out,' so I guess that wasn't my "whole point," eh? I specifically cited the 'turnout'... Which means whether or not the seats are filled while the game is happening, not if there were tickets that exchanged hands at some point.

If you can look at the pictures posted of half-filled arenas while games are taking place (even playoff games) and justify it as something that would happen all over the country given similar situations, good for you. I would disagree with that assertion.

I never remember a 'Fan Up' campaign in Cleveland or New York or Boston.


Except in Miami, apparently. :oldlol:


Or not. :oldlol:

Even if you look at them by percentages, that Cavs team was firmly within the Top 10 while Miami was even lower than the spot that they sported if you go by total attendance (16th).


Well, if you think that this...

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2770/heatfail.jpg

http://concede330.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/miami-heat-fans-pack-the-arena-after-fan-up-campaign-yes-all-10-of-them/


...is common for an elite NBA team in a great sports city for ANY game during ANY quarter against ANY opponent, then yeah... You are too biased to take part in this discussion. Because it isn't common. At all.

There is something to this discussion, whether you want to admit it or not. Most Heat fans have accepted the issues with the fans at games and have taken part in a reasonable dialogue. You would obviously rather blame the conversation on me.

What makes more sense?



If you can't stand reading posts like mine, put me on ignore. There is a very simple solution to a non-problem. You know the people who make this forum a sh!tty place for me? Internet hot-heads that jump off the handle and turn a reasonable discussion into a battle of personal insults because your feelings were hurt somewhere along the line.

Toughen up. Smarten up. Use the forum features at your disposal.


...and fan up.

[Riley Martin]

http://assets.meanwhilein.org/hashed_silo_content/3a1/5fb/fc6/resized/meanwhile-in-miami-9af6ab.jpg

[jimmy77x]

The city of Miami is shitty, and so are the people.

:lol

[Burgz V2]

Still better than the Laker crowd.

1. At least Miami's arena looks like an arena rather than a nightclub

2. The Miami fans who do show up actually make some noise, unlike the blase Laker crowds.

first of all, what does this have to do with the Lakers?

second of all, call their fans delusional, crazy, spoiled, whatever you like, but at least it shows they care about their team.

Miami? Those fans are just looking for somewhere to drink. It's despicable that when a stadium has such a central location like that, that people STILL come to the game late. Let's not forget all those people who left before Ray Allen's three pointer in game 6...

[Heavincent]

Don't think I've ever seen an elite team with such sparse crowds.

[Dro]

I noticed empty seats during Green's game winning 3....you can pause it and see all the empy seats...Do fans just leave early regardless?

[#number6ix#]

Less just ignore the fact that Miami been in the top 5 in attendance 7 times since 2005...it's just a late arriving crowd big deal

[Fudge]

Good lord Miami is disgusting. 60% of their fans have no idea the season's even started I bet. :oldlol:

[FKAri]

Why would I spend my OWN money to watch OTHER people play basketball? And I can't even see clearly? Please.

[CavaliersFTW]

Less just ignore the fact that Miami been in the top 5 in attendance 7 times since 2005...it's just a late arriving crowd big deal
Uhhh, no there are entire sections at the top and entire rows courtside that will stay empty from start to finish. The top 5 in attendance #'s are skewed based on how many people and company's have bought tickets, not how many people actually choose to show up. Most of the lazy people of Miami would rather just buy a ticket just to say they had them than actually, you know, show up to watch the game. Miami probably had less people in their arena during the FINALS than LA did in the first round last season even without Kobe in the lineup.

[PJR]

Why do you clowns care so much? Who cares. :oldlol:

[ispin69]

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/12382001/bi-2pehcmaagnit.0_standard_352.0.jpg

[outbreak]

time to send out another letter on how to support their team? remember last year when their fans left early and tried to get back in when they made a come back haha

[CavaliersFTW]

time to send out another letter on how to support their team? remember last year when their fans left early and tried to get back in when they made a come back haha
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Also this:
http://youtu.be/OBSd-d1xewg?t=29s