Lebrons career compared to Jordan in same amount of time (8 seasons)

[pauk]

I thought it would be interesting to find out what kindof pace Lebron is in career wise compared to the other greats (this time Jordan) in same amount of time (8 seasons)..... and while at it share the results here if you dont mind... so here it goes...

MICHAEL JORDAN

2 x MVP
2 x Champion
2 x FMVP
1 x DPOY
1 x All-Star MVP
Rookie of the Year
6 x NBA All-Star
4 x NBA scoring champion
5 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-Defensive 1st team
All-Rookie 1st team
1 x Gold Medal
11 x Player of the Month trophies

STATS:

19000 points @ 32.2 PPG
3697 rebounds @ 6.2 RPG
3507 assists @ 5.9 APG
1594 steals @ 2.7 SPG
623 blocks @ 1.0 BPG
40 total triple doubles

PER - 29.0 (#1 all-time)


LEBRON JAMES NBA CAREER

2 x MVP
2 x All-Star MVP
Rookie of the Year
7 x NBA All-Star
1 x NBA scoring champion
5 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-Defensive 1st team
All-Rookie 1st team
1 x Gold Medal
18 x Player of the Month trophies (most in NBA history)

STATS:

18174 points @ 27.7 PPG
4689 rebounds @ 7.1 RPG
4561 assists @ 7.0 APG
1129 steals @ 1.7 SPG
551 blocks @ 0.8 BPG
40 total triple doubles

PER - 27.2 (#2 all-time)









As you can see.... Jordan was better due to the 2 rings, 2 fmvps..... but excluding Jordans 2 rings & 2 fmvp, Lebrons & Jordans careers are overall identical!!

The conclusion and point = Lebron is on a fantastic pace to dig deep into the top 10 when its all said and done........ he will need to just start winning some rings....... and due to Lebron coming in earlier than Jordan, he has 2-3 years headstart......... means Lebron will play more seasons than Jordan did........ which means it gives him the advantage for a chance to accumulate a similar career... if not.. better.....

[Glide2keva]

Interesting find.

Including PER is a joke.

Aside from that. Jordan with more blocks and steals and 2 titles puts lebron behind Jordan.

lebron is on a helluva pace though.

[linZoMourning]

did not know lebron had the most player of the months in the history of the game. thats nice

[SwooshReturns]

Aside from that. Jordan with more blocks and steals and 2 titles puts lebron behind Jordan.
It's pathetic the 6'5 dude has more blocks than the 6'8 guy who is so extremely athletic, when you think about it though.

[gyu]

All star mvp is a joke award

[guy]

Those 2 rings are pretty significant. You do understand that right?

[ballinhun8]

I don't get why make these posts.



They've been done time and time again and never lead to anything worth mentioning.





Same old stuff with you. James this, James that. God, same topics all the time.

[Legends66NBA7]

First 8 seasons comparisons between Jordan and LeBron

Regular Season Numbers

Michael Jordan: 32.3ppg 6.3reb 6.0ast 2.7stl 1.1blk 3.1tov 51.4%fg 84.7%ft 28.4%3pt 38.7 MPG (played 589 games)

LeBron James: 27.7ppg 7.1reb 7.0ast 1.7stl 0.8blk 3.3tov 47.9%fg 74.4%ft 32.9%3pt 40.1 MPG (played 627 games)

Playoff Career Numbers

Michael Jordan: 34.6ppg 6.7reb 6.8ast 2.4stl 1.0blk 3.5tov 50.7%fg 84.0%ft 33.7%3pt 42.0 MPG(played 92 games)

LeBron James: 28.0ppg 8.0reb 7.0ast 1.7stl 1.0blk 3.6tov 46.0%fg 74.6%ft 32.3%3pt 43.6 MPG (played 92 games)

Finals Career Numbers (Both played 2 Finals)

Michael Jordan: 33.7ppg 5.6reb 8.7ast 2.2stl 0.8blk 3.8tov 53.9%fg 87.3%ft 43.8%3pt 43.2 MPG (11 games played)

LeBron James: 19.5ppg 7.1reb 6.8ast 1.4stl 0.5blk 4.7tov 41.7%fg 65.3%ft 27.1%3pt 43.1 MPG (10 games played)




Oh, you also have to take into account that LeBron is playing a more perimeter friendly era compared to Jordan.

Also, in the Finals, Jordan had to go up with the likes of Magic Johnson and Clyde Drexler in his first 2 Finals, compared to LeBron going up against.... Bruce Bowen and Shawn Marion...


LeBron's great and all, but Jordan simply was better in his first 8 seasons and the playoff seperation clearly proves that.

[linZoMourning]

First 8 seasons comparisons between Jordan and LeBron

Regular Season Numbers

Michael Jordan: 32.3ppg 6.3reb 6.0ast 2.7stl 1.1blk 3.1tov 51.4%fg 84.7%ft 28.4%3pt 38.7 MPG (played 589 games)

LeBron James: 27.7ppg 7.1reb 7.0ast 1.7stl 0.8blk 3.3tov 47.9%fg 74.4%ft 32.9%3pt 40.1 MPG (played 627 games)

Playoff Career Numbers

Michael Jordan: 34.6ppg 6.7reb 6.8ast 2.4stl 1.0blk 3.5tov 50.7%fg 84.0%ft 33.7%3pt 42.0 MPG(played 92 games)

LeBron James: 28.0ppg 8.0reb 7.0ast 1.7stl 1.0blk 3.6tov 46.0%fg 74.6%ft 32.3%3pt 43.6 MPG (played 92 games)

Finals Career Numbers (Both played 2 Finals)

Michael Jordan: 33.7ppg 5.6reb 8.7ast 2.2stl 0.8blk 3.8tov 53.9%fg 87.3%ft 43.8%3pt 43.2 MPG (11 games played)

LeBron James: 19.5ppg 7.1reb 6.8ast 1.4stl 0.5blk 4.7tov 41.7%fg 65.3%ft 27.1%3pt 43.1 MPG (10 games played)




Oh, you also have to take into account that LeBron is playing a more perimeter friendly era compared to Jordan.

Also, in the Finals, Jordan had to go up with the likes of Magic Johnson and Clyde Drexler in his first 2 Finals, compared to LeBron going up against.... Bruce Bowen and Shawn Marion...


LeBron's great and all, but Jordan simply was better in his first 8 seasons and the playoff seperation clearly proves that.

are you trying to discredit the spurs defense in 2007? I could see how you could say that about shawn marion but bruce bowen?? he was a better defender then all of the players you mentioned. Wish he would of stayed on the heat

[ballinhun8]

And back then there was one POTM award. LeBron has had the luxury of having POTM award for each conference so there is less competition.




All Star awards, PER, Olympic Medals are dumb to use when comparing players.





And lmfao at trying to exclude Finals MVPs and Championships.

[Oositdwn]

Thanks for this thread you just showed how even greater MJ is :bowdown:

:cheers:

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

Except that Lebron is two years younger than Jordan at the same point. On Jordans 27th birthday(how old LeBron is now) he had zero rings. LeBron is quite capable of dominating the league for the next few years the same way Jordan was. Don't count him out yet, but the haters can keep hoping.

[-p.tiddy-]

Jordan is better at everything...expect maybe rebounding

Jordan is underrated as a defender...that DPOY award was well deserved...dude could swat some shit but those highlights get lost in all the dunks and everything else

[Legends66NBA7]

are you trying to discredit the spurs defense in 2007? I could see how you could say that about shawn marion but bruce bowen?? he was a better defender then all of the players you mentioned. Wish he would of stayed on the heat

Bowen and Marion are not the 2 way players or all-time greats that Magic and Drexler were...

I mean those guys were runner up MVP's... Bowen is a great defender and? I'm not trying to say he was a chump, but compared to Magic and Drexler?

It's not just about defense here. It's not a diss, but Jordan went up against far better rivals in his first 2 Finals and completely dominated on both ends of the floor and LeBron did not.

[Alamo]

did not know lebron had the most player of the months in the history of the game. thats nice

Before 99, there was only one player of the month award instead of east and west

[-p.tiddy-]

Except that Lebron is two years younger than Jordan at the same point. On Jordans 27th birthday(how old LeBron is now) he had zero rings. LeBron is quite capable of dominating the league for the next few years the same way Jordan was. Don't count him out yet, but the haters can keep hoping.
no he isn't...unless his mental makeup changes completly

he just doesn't have the same drive as Jordan

[linZoMourning]

Before 99, there was only one player of the month award instead of east and west

I guess that explains it

[linZoMourning]

Bowen and Marion are not the 2 way players or all-time greats that Magic and Drexler were...

I mean those guys were runner up MVP's... Bowen is a great defender and? I'm not trying to say he was a chump, but compared to Magic and Drexler?

It's not just about defense here. It's not a diss, but Jordan went up against far better rivals in his first 2 Finals and completely dominated on both ends of the floor and LeBron did not.

oh for sure. I thought you were just talking about defense.

[Pursuer]

Why are you so obsessed with comparing everyone to MJ? It's as if we have to make some sort of conclusions from this comparison. Yeah, LeBron's had 8 great years, now let him finish his career.

[PTB Fan]

When you'll learn that basketball isn't in stats only?

James will never get worthy enough to be considered a great match up for MJ unless he wins the titles in the eyes of the people who hate and dislike him.

And let James finish his career before you compare him to a guy like Jordan.

[Vienceslav]

I liked the part where you excluded 2 FMVPs.:applause:

[TheAesirsFinest]

pauk, I sometimes think you hate LeBron and WANT people to hate him too by posting stuff like this.

[WeGetRing2012]

Why do people continue to bring this stuff up? We all see Lebron play and we can clearly see he doesn't have the intangible things that make you great. No will to win and he is small in the big moments. Nothing he does is Jordan-like to me and probably never will be.....

[-p.tiddy-]

Why are you so obsessed with comparing everyone to MJ? It's as if we have to make some sort of conclusions from this comparison. Yeah, LeBron's had 8 great years, now let him finish his career.
yes, we conclude that Lebron will never ever be as good as Jordan

[Foster5k]

All I learned from this thread is...

Jordan >>> Lebron

[Glide2keva]

It's pathetic the 6'5 dude has more blocks than the 6'8 guy who is so extremely athletic, when you think about it though.
It is, actually.

[(e)]

Lebron James is not Michael Jordan.

/thread

[d21221hk]

Those 2 rings are pretty significant. You do understand that right?
qft

[L8kersfan222]

but excluding Jordans 2 rings & 2 fmvp, Lebrons & Jordans careers are overall identical!!
:confusedshrug:

[The_Yearning]

You also forgot the 2 dunking championship Jordan won. Something LBJ is too afraid to compete in.

You also forgot the college education MJ received from NC, something LBJ skipped.

You also forgot all of the clutch shots and gamer winners MJ hit, something LBJ doesn't even come close to (only Kobe does).

You also forgot what MJ said himself: "Kobe is the only one who has done the work to be worth of comparison to me."

You also forgot the endless chokes LBJ has had compared to Jordan.

You also forgot to note that MJ won 2 FMVP as the undisputed best player on his team.

[BullsDynasty]

Stop it. It's disrespectful to compare Lebron to Jordan. Jordan was a winner. He lived for the big moments. He never disappeared in the biggest stage unlike Lebron.

Jordan went to finals 6 times and won all 6 of them. Lebron went to finals twice.. and lost both of them. One of them being with one of the most stacked teams in NBA history. The worst thing is it was all Lebron's fault.

You're comparing this guy to Jordan? How stupid are you? One of them was born to win. The other one is just an athletically gifted player who lacks intangibles which make players great.

Also, LMAO at the idiots who say Jordan had 0 rings when he was Lebron's age. Age doesn't matter in NBA. What matters is how much playing time your body can handle and that is directly related to how many seasons you play.

[The_Yearning]

You also forgot the 2 dunking championship Jordan won. Something LBJ is too afraid to compete in.

You also forgot the college education MJ received from NC, something LBJ skipped.

You also forgot all of the clutch shots and gamer winners MJ hit, something LBJ doesn't even come close to (only Kobe does).

You also forgot what MJ said himself: "Kobe is the only one who has done the work to be worth of comparison to me."

You also forgot the endless chokes LBJ has had compared to Jordan.

You also forgot to note that MJ won 2 FMVP as the undisputed best player on his team.

...

[Quickening]

I don't get the obsession with stats etc... how can you compare the numbers of different eras.. Jordans played in the 80s and 90s... what was the average ppg?

In comparision to the years Lebron has played... I mean one era could have 130 ppg, another have 100 ppg and make out that the previous era must have had far better players because they scored more.. ignoring defence etc.

[G-Funk]

First 8 seasons comparisons between Jordan and LeBron

Regular Season Numbers

Michael Jordan: 32.3ppg 6.3reb 6.0ast 2.7stl 1.1blk 3.1tov 51.4%fg 84.7%ft 28.4%3pt 38.7 MPG (played 589 games)

LeBron James: 27.7ppg 7.1reb 7.0ast 1.7stl 0.8blk 3.3tov 47.9%fg 74.4%ft 32.9%3pt 40.1 MPG (played 627 games)

Playoff Career Numbers

Michael Jordan: 34.6ppg 6.7reb 6.8ast 2.4stl 1.0blk 3.5tov 50.7%fg 84.0%ft 33.7%3pt 42.0 MPG(played 92 games)

LeBron James: 28.0ppg 8.0reb 7.0ast 1.7stl 1.0blk 3.6tov 46.0%fg 74.6%ft 32.3%3pt 43.6 MPG (played 92 games)

Finals Career Numbers (Both played 2 Finals)

Michael Jordan: 33.7ppg 5.6reb 8.7ast 2.2stl 0.8blk 3.8tov 53.9%fg 87.3%ft 43.8%3pt 43.2 MPG (11 games played)

LeBron James: 19.5ppg 7.1reb 6.8ast 1.4stl 0.5blk 4.7tov 41.7%fg 65.3%ft 27.1%3pt 43.1 MPG (10 games played)




Oh, you also have to take into account that LeBron is playing a more perimeter friendly era compared to Jordan.

Also, in the Finals, Jordan had to go up with the likes of Magic Johnson and Clyde Drexler in his first 2 Finals, compared to LeBron going up against.... Bruce Bowen and Shawn Marion...


LeBron's great and all, but Jordan simply was better in his first 8 seasons and the playoff seperation clearly proves that.

Ether

[TheMan]

Pauk, stop comparing LBJ to MJ, it's a disservice to LeBron, he is nowhere MJ, there are things you can't measure and stats wise, he's not close to Jordan.

"Still waiting for LBJ to devestate the league like MJ did":rolleyes:

[LeFraud James]

As you can see.... Jordan was better due to the 2 rings, 2 fmvps..... but excluding Jordans 2 rings & 2 fmvp, Lebrons & Jordans careers are overall identical!!

The conclusion and point = Lebron is on a fantastic pace to dig deep into the top 10 when its all said and done........ he will need to just start winning some rings....... and due to Lebron coming in earlier than Jordan, he has 2-3 years headstart......... means Lebron will play more seasons than Jordan did........ which means it gives him the advantage for a chance to accumulate a similar career... if not.. better.....

Let's see if he can win a single ring before comparing him to the greatest to ever play the game.

Fact of the matter is, everyone knew that Jordan would become something special during his first 8 seasons because of his mentality. Stats don't tell you everything.

[OldSchoolBBall]

I thought it would be interesting to find out what kindof pace Lebron is in career wise compared to the other greats (this time Jordan) in same amount of time (8 seasons)..... and while at it share the results here if you dont mind... so here it goes...

MICHAEL JORDAN

2 x MVP
2 x Champion
2 x FMVP
1 x DPOY
1 x All-Star MVP
Rookie of the Year
6 x NBA All-Star
4 x NBA scoring champion
5 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-Defensive 1st team
All-Rookie 1st team
1 x Gold Medal
11 x Player of the Month trophies

STATS:

19000 points @ 32.2 PPG
3697 rebounds @ 6.2 RPG
3507 assists @ 5.9 APG
1594 steals @ 2.7 SPG
623 blocks @ 1.0 BPG
40 total triple doubles

PER - 29.0 (#1 all-time)


LEBRON JAMES NBA CAREER

2 x MVP
2 x All-Star MVP
Rookie of the Year
7 x NBA All-Star
1 x NBA scoring champion
5 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-Defensive 1st team
All-Rookie 1st team
1 x Gold Medal
18 x Player of the Month trophies (most in NBA history)

STATS:

18174 points @ 27.7 PPG
4689 rebounds @ 7.1 RPG
4561 assists @ 7.0 APG
1129 steals @ 1.7 SPG
551 blocks @ 0.8 BPG
40 total triple doubles

PER - 27.2 (#2 all-time)



Jordan's PER was well above 29.0 after 1992. You must have included his abbreviated 1986 season (where even in the ~20 games he played he played just 18-20 mpg many games while coming back from a broken foot) as a full season and averaged it in as such. Remove 1986 and it's 29.8 PER.

EDIT: Looks like you did this for all the "per game" stats. I do know that when MJ retired in 1993 he had career averages of 32.5 pts/6.3 reb/6.1 ast/2.8 stl/1.0 blk if you exclude 1986.

[NumberSix]

This is one of the reasons players like LeBron and Kobe get so much hate. People trying to put them on Jordan's level. All you're doing is forcing people explain why they're not. As great as they are, they're just gonna look bad when you compare them to Jordan.

[Heavincent]

but excluding Jordans 2 rings & 2 fmvp, Lebrons & Jordans careers are overall identical!![/U]


That's kind of a big deal you know. That's like saying "If you exclude Jordan's 6 rings, Kobe had a better career!".

Rings and FMVP's are the best and most important accomplishments, and of course Lebron has neither.

[Heavincent]

And pauk, all this proves is that Jordan's first 8 years were vastly superior to Lebron's first 8 years. Was anybody questioning Jordan's ability to lead his team to a championship after 8 seasons? **** NO.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

As you can see.... Jordan was better due to the 2 rings, 2 fmvps..... but excluding Jordans 2 rings & 2 fmvp, Lebrons & Jordans careers are overall identical!!
.

Jordan is the greatest postseason performer of all-time, so taking away his championships (or achievements) doesn't work. Try again, "wee one".

[Legends66NBA7]

Jordan is the greatest postseason performer of all-time, so taking away his championships (or achievements) doesn't work. Try again, "wee one".

Also, Jordan is one of, if not the, greatest finals performers of all-time.

While LeBron has showed he can go on a tear in the postseason, his last 2 playoff runs have been very so-so and shown that he's suspect to checking out when the going gets tough.

Plus, he's one of the worst finals performers of any superstar and currently holds the NBA Record biggest drop off from regular season to finals numbers for a superstar.

And that's just looking at the stats. Their mental game is where Jordan is completely on another level.

Can you imagine Shawn Marion, Jason Terry, or DeShawn Stevenson trying to talk trash to Jordan like they did to LeBron in the 2011 Finals?

Jordan would make it a goal to absolutely humiliate the Mavericks for the rest of that series. Especially under today's rules, at LeBron's age ? Would be a massacre...

[Lebron23]

It's time to lock this thread. Come on Pauk. Stop creating threads with hidden agenda. LeBron is gonna win an NBA title this year, but right now you need to stop comparing him with MJ.

[NumberSix]

It's time to lock this thread. Come on Pauk. Stop creating threads with hidden agenda. LeBron is gonna win an NBA title this year, but right now you need to stop comparing him with MJ.
Unless he doesn't.

[bada bing]

good post. Lebron winning a ring with the heat will not be equal to the rings that Jordan won. If Lebron had stayed with the cavs and won a ring with them, then lebron would have been elevated to God like status. I think they were one or two players away then and lebron could have led them. anyways, this is a very good comparison but i doubt lebron ever reaches jordan's level even after he wins a few rings with the heat.

[NumberSix]

good post. Lebron winning a ring with the heat will not be equal to the rings that Jordan won.
How can you possibly know that? I'm sorry, but if LeBron dominates the finals against a great team like OKC and leads his team to a sweep with numbers like 40PPG/9APG/8RPG/3SPG/2BPG/61.5FG% and plays lockdown defense, that would be superior to any of Jordan's finals. Will it happen? Probably not, but nobody knows what the hell will happen.

The mentality of no matter what he does, it's not equal is retarded. If he has a performance better than any of MJ's, it's better. It's not just automatically not better regardless of what happens.

He PROBABLY won't perform better than Jordan did, but if he does, he does.

[rodman91]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luzcrhXVU51qb76neo1_500.jpg


VS
http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p2348221dt.jpg

[Nash]

Who cares? Its not like I think pauk was trying to tell how Lebron is better than Jordan, its pretty clear he ain't. But at the same it just goes to show that he's the closest player to him.

[Heavincent]

But at the same it just goes to show that he's the closest player to him.

Jesus Christ :facepalm

No, just no.

[LakersReign]

Who cares? Its not like I think pauk was trying to tell how Lebron is better than Jordan, its pretty clear he ain't. But at the same it just goes to show that he's the closest player to him.

More proof that Lebronites TRULY know nothing about basketball. Yeah, let's compare Lebron to Jordan, even though they have absolutely nothing in common. And you saying Lebron is the closest thing to Jordan is another one of the dumbest things I've ever heard on here.:roll: :lol :oldlol: :roll:

[Heavincent]

Lebron is not even remotely close to being on Jordan's level, and never will be. He is most certainly NOT "the closest player to Jordan".

[Nash]

I see Kobe fans being mad.

Lebron is the closest player to Jordan after 8 years into their careers, statistically.

[LakersReign]

I see Kobe fans being mad.

Lebron is the closest player to Jordan after 8 years into their careers, statistically.

So....even though it has nothing to do with us, we're somehow supposed to be mad that you're OBVIOUSLY talking out your a** regarding things you CLEARLY know nothing about?!:wtf:

Hilarious:lol

[Heavincent]

I see Kobe fans being mad.

Lebron is the closest player to Jordan after 8 years into their careers, statistically.

Not in terms of winning, intangibles, mental toughness, not pulling epic choke-jobs, etc.

Kobe fans have no reason to be mad considering Kobe is already one of the 10 greatest players of all time and still going strong.

[Nash]

So who is the closest player to Jordan after 8 years into their careers? Please inform me.

[All Net]

If you are going by stats and impact then yes Lebron is the closest to MJ...Lebron has the all-round game, FG%.

[pauk]

Lebron is perfectly fine.... but its time to start putting some icing (rings) on the cake

[NumberSix]

Kobe fans have no reason to be mad considering Kobe is already one of the 10 greatest players of all time and still going strong.
Then what are you getting your panties all in a bunch about when nobody was even talking about Kobe? :confusedshrug:

[LakersReign]

Then what are you getting your panties all in a bunch about when nobody was even talking about Kobe? :confusedshrug:


I see Kobe fans being mad.

Lebron is the closest player to Jordan after 8 years into their careers, statistically.





Nice try:applause:

[pauk]

Lebron is not even remotely close to being on Jordan's level, and never will be. He is most certainly NOT "the closest player to Jordan".

In terms of talent-productions-domination as overall/allround perimeter players Lebron sure is the closest thing to Jordan than any perimeter player was in NBA history (facts show that)....... similar freak athletes aswell...

But their gamestyles are somewhat different... Lebron is much bigger and his gamestyle is more closer to those super versatile point-forwards like Oscar/Magic... or Pippen/Penny on steroids.... he is more of a facilitator compared to Jordan...

Kobes gamestyle i think is the closest thing to Jordan tho... same size and position aswell... same score first mindset... obviously not at that level of Jordan talent-productions-domination but anyways...

[Unstop]

lebron looks like a machine producing those numbers, MJ looked like an angel flying above his opponents and had a ****ing unbelievable presence on the court :roll:

i mean...seriously.... if u see lebron on the court, u feel "nothing" special, its just a great basketball player.
but MJ back in the days,... it was electrifying;) true?

players like hakeem,shag,magic and even kobe had those moments.
lebron had some big moments in the beginning of his career but yeah dont know what happened, maybe because of switching the teams...
now hes "just" producing.
so u can compare em statwise, but they re not comparable if u have watched em play.
MJ played like a gazelle and lebron is playing like a rhinoceros.

with that said. lebron is missing something. its not all about stats, its about a guy making the whole world going nuts. Cleveland was his door to be one of the greatest in my opinion.

[DGARAS]

yes, excluding the 5 extra inches of my *****, our penises would be virtually identical at 2 inches, OP

[Asukal]

Statwise sure they are comparable, factor everything else and Jordan shits on Lebron. Not hating just stating the truth. :pimp:

[TheMan]

I'm no expert on human pyschology but I thought it was telling that Wade hadd to get in LBJ's face to get him to man up, a player as talented as LBJ should'nt have to be scolded during pressure time.

If you guys can watch those Finals again, LBJ just doesn't exert his will over the other team, this is where MJ excelled, he willed his team to victory time and time again, he just would not lose...in 6 Finals, the Bulls never went to a 7th game.LBJ on the other hand, I feel that he defers to his team mates because he's afraid of failing:confusedshrug: I dunno, I've heard of that theory.

Anyways, people right now don't care what LBJ does in the regular season, they want to see him put on a monster Finals and hopefully he can do it but I didn't like his demeanor in crunch time of his two Finals he's been in.

I don't know if that's the kind of thing you can improve on, we'll just have to wait and see.

[SwooshReturns]

EDIT: Looks like you did this for all the "per game" stats. I do know that when MJ retired in 1993 he had career averages of 32.5 pts/6.3 reb/6.1 ast/2.8 stl/1.0 blk if you exclude 1986.
Utterly disgusting numbers right there ... all while being a vastly superior defensive presence, clutch performer with a will and desire to win that is completely un-matched. LeFail isn't even close ...

P.S. How have you been?

[Bigsmoke]

lol PAUK needs to stop comparing LBJ to dawgs like MJ and Bird:lol

[TheMan]

lol PAUK needs to stop comparing LBJ to big dawgs like MJ and Bird:lol
Truth

[gilalizard]

teh chosen1 is very very talented.

Too bad he doesn't have the heart to want to prove himself against his rivals, and ran away to join dwhistle.

The Heat are the definition of stacked. Anything they win is not worthy of much respect at all.

[NumberSix]

yes, excluding the 5 extra inches of my *****, our penises would be virtually identical at 2 inches, OP
7? Unless you're shorter than 6 feet tall i wouldn't say that out loud.

[ballerz]

Lol don't ever compare lebron to mj again

[NumberSix]

Truth
Seriously. When LeBron wins championships, then you can start with the comparisons. Til then....... illegal.

[Yanch856]

You cannot compare Lebron to MJ as players. You can compare Lebron's career to MJ's career, from a professional standpoint, and if he wins the next 10 ships with Heat, ok, professionally I'll take Bron as having the best career in the history of NBA.

But you still cannot compare Bron to MJ. Ever. Because MJ didn't quit on Chicago. He didn't take his talents to Detroit and pander to Isiah Thomas when they lost to them 3-4x in a row.

MJ is a warrior man. Bron is the biggest frontrunner out there.

This is why Lin will have a chance to surpass Jordan, after Kobe failed. Kid's got no quit. No division 1 scholarships? He's still going. Undrafted? No quit. Cut from 2 teams? He's practising the hardest night in and out. When he gets his shot --> "Lin from the 3....... BANG! WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM???"

Do you know why MJ still hasn't commented on Lin's performance? Because he knows Lin is a baller man.