Jeremy Lin is the Knicks best player

[bagelred]

And it's not even close.

Lin not only "gets his". He makes everyone better. Everyone.


Melo sometimes gets his, sometimes he doesn't. Either way, he makes everyone worse. And can suck the life right out of the building.


And I ain't arguing. Good night.

[Sarcastic]

:facepalm

[k0kakw0rld]

No he is not. Carmelo is the best player period.

[pauk]

It might be true imo... this might be hard to digest...

[bluechox2]

it was the first game with everyone back, need some time to gel

[IGOTGAME]

It might be true imo... this might be hard to digest...

yep. Jeremy Lin currently a top 7-8 player in the world. quicker first step than John Wall, faster release than Ray Allen and has superior Lintellect

[inclinerator]

amare couldnt grab a single board today, he should take some time off, i dont think he's mentally in it

[Sarcastic]

Lin got torched tonight, the same way he got torched by Calderon. Only this time we didn't have Shumpert to help us out.

[Clocian-IGN]

I would love to see how the knicks play in the playoffs with lin as their best player :roll:

melo and amare > lin

lin is a solid starter getting his play enhanced by pringles system. see felton

[The Macho Man]

Hopefully ESPN calls Melo a ch!nk for this performance.

[Bob Cousy]

Ban every Lin fanboy, they're showing their true colors and its despicable.

[ClutchOver9000]

And it's not even close.

Lin not only "gets his". He makes everyone better. Everyone.


Melo sometimes gets his, sometimes he doesn't. Either way, he makes everyone worse. And can suck the life right out of the building.


And I ain't arguing. Good night.

honestly im starting to come around on this...

as insane as that sounds...

Lin has def been their best player during this 10 game stretch

Amare is washed up and needs to ride the bench, and Melo just doesnt fit w/ this team as currently constructed.

But my opinion is subject to change as the season progresses...

We'll see how they fare in the next couple of games

[MostHated305]

I only watch the 3rd quarter but the sequence was: bricked 3, missed layup, turnover, bricked jumper by Lin. It was embarrassing I switched to the Mavs v. C's game.

[Micku]

Lin the most important piece, but he isn't their best player.

The Knicks were too passive. Melo and Lin trying to get their team involved while they should be aggressive.

Plus the Nets were lights out. It's one game. We should see how they will do later.

[christian1923]

I would love to see how the knicks play in the playoffs as lin as their best player :roll:

melo and amare > lin

lin is a solid starter getting his play enhanced by pringles system. see felton

What from this season makes you say that?

I'd love to know.

[kingBynum]

Crapmelo & StandAroundMire are terrible:oldlol:

[gyu]

I would love to see how the knicks play in the playoffs as lin as their best player :roll:

melo and amare > lin

lin is a solid starter getting his play enhanced by pringles system. see felton
If D'Antoni's system makes PG's look good, they wouldn't have had a PG issue in the first place.

[IGOTGAME]

If D'Antoni's system makes PG's look good, they wouldn't have had a PG issue in the first place.

exactly. they just can't see the superior smarts of Lin.

[swi7ch]

Too bad he's so concerned about involving Amare and Melo. He should take 20+ shots a game and forget about those two.

[heyhey]

Too bad he's so concerned about involving Amare and Melo. He should take 20+ shots a game and forget about those two.

That's what I was afraid of. Lins deferring to melo.

Melos shooting 39% on the season for a reason dudes been declining for a while now

[Sarcastic]

Too bad he's so concerned about involving Amare and Melo. He should take 20+ shots a game and forget about those two.

He took 18. Melo took 11.

[IGOTGAME]

That's what I was afraid of. Lins deferring to melo.

Melos shooting 39% on the season for a reason dudes been declining for a while now

yep. guy is declining at 26. Just doesn't have it anymore. It is sad should have taken better care of himself. Hope he can accept his role as a role player.

[inclinerator]

He took 18. Melo took 11.
should have tooked all of melo and amare's shots

[Rameek]

A Great Scorer does not equal a GREAT PLAYER:facepalm

[Clocian-IGN]

If D'Antoni's system makes PG's look good, they wouldn't have had a PG issue in the first place.

who was at pg before lin? the undersized sg douglas? the player out of position in shumpert? done mike bibby?

again put a solid pg in there and they will do similar to what lin is doing. see felton

lin is a solid player but :roll: at him being the knicks best player.

[heyhey]

yep. guy is declining at 26. Just doesn't have it anymore. It is sad should have taken better care of himself. Hope he can accept his role as a role player.

Exactly what part of Melos games better than it was when he was in Denver?


who was at pg before lin? the undersized sg douglas? the player out of position in shumpert? done mike bibby?

again put a solid pg in there and they will do similar to what lin is doing. see felton

lin is a solid player but :roll: at him being the knicks best player.

Yea Felton putting up worse number in every category while shooting 42% is exactly like what lins doing :facepalm

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

yep. guy is declining at 26. Just doesn't have it anymore. It is sad should have taken better care of himself. Hope he can accept his role as a role player.

Well said. Good to see you finally come around.

[AlphaWolf24]

No he is not. Carmelo is the best player period.


:roll: :roll:

GTFO...

Lin is BY FAR the Knicks best player....

without Melo's cancer Lin brings everything to the Team and is a much better skilled player overall and has a much better team mentality for winning.

[IGOTGAME]

Exactly what part of Melos games better than it was when he was in Denver?



you are right. He is one the downside of his career. He isn't the player he was in Denver. He has aged(guy is already freakin 26!) and has lost skills. Just sad to see. Again, hope he can handle being a role player.

[gyu]

who was at pg before lin? the undersized sg douglas? the player out of position in shumpert? done mike bibby?

again put a solid pg in there and they will do similar to what lin is doing. see felton

lin is a solid player but :roll: at him being the knicks best player.
Shumpert played point in College how is he out of position?
Raymond Felton was a solid player before he went to the Knicks, see his Bobcat days and that's with Larry Brown as coach.
There can be many reasons why Felton's not playing well, not necessarily the system. Look at Lamar, is he playing bad because of the system? No, it's because he's mentally weak and his mind is f'd up after the Lakers traded him. What's your reason why Amar'e's not playing well right now? Isn't this the system he should thrive in? :rolleyes:

[IGOTGAME]

Well said. Good to see you finally come around.

:cheers:

I never liked Melo though. guy just isn't a versatile playmaker out there. He would work in the triangle though.

[RRR3]

I only watch the 3rd quarter but the sequence was: bricked 3, missed layup, turnover, bricked jumper by Lin. It was embarrassing I switched to the Mavs v. C's game.
A guy with a Norris Cole avatar criticizing another player for bricks:roll:

[Kingwillball]

who was at pg before lin? the undersized sg douglas? the player out of position in shumpert? done mike bibby?

again put a solid pg in there and they will do similar to what lin is doing. see felton

lin is a solid player but :roll: at him being the knicks best player.


Would agree if Felton was doing what Lin has done.. the Problem is he didn't or they wouldn't of traded him dopey

[bagelred]

you are right. He is one the downside of his career. He isn't the player he was in Denver. He has aged(guy is already freakin 26!) and has lost skills. Just sad to see. Again, hope he can handle being a role player.

Hey Congrats!!! Rubio got his first 20 point game EVER last night. How did it feel? Lintastic?

[swi7ch]

He took 18. Melo took 11.
So that's 11 more shots that Jeremy could have taken. Also, most of those 18 shots were during stat padding time.

[IGOTGAME]

Hey Congrats!!! Rubio got his first 20 point game EVER last night. How did it feel? Lintastic?

Yep...T-Wolves are Linning.

[Yanch856]

No even Jeremy would be the first one to tell you this: He's a part of a team, his role is to distribute the ball, and help the team win. Jeremy Lin's game is not about being the best player on the team. His role is to find guys who are paid the big moneys, and the superstars are responsible for winning the games for NY.

And frankly the two superstars on the Knicks are not pulling their weights.

STAT is getting blocked by chumps.
Melo looks like he doesn't even care.

Lin is smart enough to continue to play his role well, and stay out of the media onslaught that will begin if this continues for another few games.

After melo is gone, the knicks can then build a contender from Lin and Chandler

[Go Getter]

No even Jeremy would be the first one to tell you this: He's a part of a team, his role is to distribute the ball, and help the team win. Jeremy Lin's game is not about being the best player on the team. His role is to find guys who are paid the big moneys, and the superstars are responsible for winning the games for NY.

And frankly the two superstars on the Knicks are not pulling their weights.

STAT is getting blocked by chumps.
Melo looks like he doesn't even care.

Lin is smart enough to continue to play his role well, and stay out of the media onslaught that will begin if this continues for another few games.

After melo is gone, the knicks can then build a contender from Lin and Chandler

Trust me, the league isn't scared in the least bit.

[linZoMourning]

I think what the op is trying to say is. Lin is the most IMPORTANT player on the team. which he is

[Yanch856]

Trust me, the league isn't scared in the least bit.


:lol :lol :lol Trust you? Why because you know so many NBA players and they confiding in you that Lin and Chandler are scrubs?

Last time I checked Lin was getting double teamed and trapped off EVERY pnr

[gyu]

Yep...T-Wolves are Linning.
Why do you hate Lin so much?

[d21221hk]

Why do you hate Lin so much?
too busy hugging rubi's nuts - no more love to spread

[lbj23clutch]

F*ck it was bad enough to have to deal with Kobe and LeBron stans. Now we got Lin stans?

I root for Lin, but this is getting out of hand. I'm tired of hearing people say 'Lin> Rose'. :facepalm

[StateOfMind12]

Why do you hate Lin so much?
He outplayed his boy Rubio.

Knicks need to trade Melo and I pretty much saw this coming when Melo came back. Melo is a ball-stopper and an inefficient scorer. You are better off without players like that.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

:cheers:

I never liked Melo though. guy just isn't a versatile playmaker out there. He would work in the triangle though.

Haha :cheers:

He's a ball stopper man. I've been saying it since he got sent over from Denver. Awesome individual player, just not sure his skillset translates into W's. His playmaking (and defense) as you said leaves ALOT to be desired.

[Yanch856]

I think what the op is trying to say is. Lin is the most IMPORTANT player on the team. which he is

Agreed, on the condition that Chandler is indispensible also.

You can build a contender around these two man.

[bagelred]

I think what the op is trying to say is. Lin is the most IMPORTANT player on the team. which he is

Which makes him the best player. He's the player that can get you wins, if you let him lead the team.

[bballbball]

Melo and Stat were bad. Lin nearly had a triple double, and kept his to's down.

[Yanch856]

Haha :cheers:

He's a ball stopper man. I've been saying it since he got sent over from Denver. Awesome individual player, just not sure his skillset translates into W's. His playmaking (and defense) as you said leaves ALOT to be desired.

Honestly I'm not sure how he won the NCAA championship with Syracruse.

With his game right now? I'm hope Melo's not the next TMac.

[Sarcastic]

Which makes him the best player. He's the player that can get you wins, if you let him lead the team.

What's the last PG-centric team to win a title?

[bmulls]

This was his first game back after weeks off, he is going to have some rust. This could get really ugly with the media blaming Melo when in reality if you just give them some time to gel Lin/Amare/Melo will turn into a very dangerous offense.

[DMV2]

Melo and Stat were bad. Lin nearly had a triple double, and kept his to's down.
I think it might be the reason why they loss. Lin didn't play out of control basketball like he normally does. He only had two sloppy turnovers of the three he had. Not enough sloppy TO's for the W. :D

[Sarcastic]

This was his first game back after weeks off, he is going to have some rust. This could get really ugly with the media blaming Melo when in reality if you just give them some time to gel Lin/Amare/Melo will turn into a very dangerous offense.

D'Antoni does not know how to work with Melo and Amar'e. I think it's quite evident from the last 2 years.

[Micku]

He outplayed his boy Rubio.

Knicks need to trade Melo and I pretty much saw this coming when Melo came back. Melo is a ball-stopper and an inefficient scorer. You are better off without players like that.

I would give the Knicks a few more games before jumping into conclusion.

Lin gave Melo a few good looks, but Melo couldn't finish it and he was just rusty and being too passive. Lin was also passive too, but he did manage to shoot the most. They have potential to do good things, but they are trying to figure each other out.

Amare been sucking tho.

[WhySoInsecure?]

I would give the Knicks a few more games before jumping into conclusion.

Lin gave Melo a few good looks, but Melo couldn't finish it and he was just rusty and being too passive. Lin was also passive too, but he did manage to shoot the most. They have potential to do good things, but they are trying to figure each other out.

Amare been sucking tho.
Amare did just lose his brother and it seems to me like having Tyson down low is really screwing up his game.

[strifed169]

Amare is playing like an old lady, what a waste of cap space

[ralph_i_el]

yep. Jeremy Lin currently a top 7-8 player in the world. quicker first step than John Wall, faster release than Ray Allen and has superior Lintellect

the kid can't just be good? he has to be THAt good?

Lebron
Dirk
D-will
Durant
Westbrook
CP3
Drose
Dwade
D12
Kevin Love
Kobe

That is the list of players that are UNQUESTIONABLY better/ more valuable than Lin. He's somewhere in the tier below that.

[fubu05]

Not gonna lie, I'm not even worried one bit. Knicks were rolling before D'Antoni messed up the rhythm and played the bench for like 7 straight mins, it went from 13-3 to beind down by 5 or something like that.

But for the first time this year, I saw Melo play off the ball, he had a beautiful backdoor cut to the basket but just missed the layup, and Chandler set a beautiful pick for him which he rolled off, pinpoint pass by Lin, he just missed the open jumper. This was all in the 1st quarter. After that, they never played like that again. I think with time Melo will play more and more off the ball.

Also, anyone notice Melo playmaking a bit in the 4th and STAT rolling to the elbow, where Melo found him about 3 or 4 times for an open jumper but they were just bricks. To blame Melo for this game is insane.

I think Lin is the engine that makes the team go, but the best player is still Melo. Kind of like Rondo and Pierce were in '08. We knew without Rondo they weren't doing anything, but their best player was Pierce/KG.

[Yanch856]

Not gonna lie, I'm not even worried one bit. Knicks were rolling before D'Antoni messed up the rhythm and played the bench for like 7 straight mins, it went from 13-3 to beind down by 5 or something like that.

But for the first time this year, I saw Melo play off the ball, he had a beautiful backdoor cut to the basket but just missed the layup, and Chandler set a beautiful pick for him which he rolled off, pinpoint pass by Lin, he just missed the open jumper. This was all in the 1st quarter. After that, they never played like that again. I think with time Melo will play more and more off the ball.

Also, anyone notice Melo playmaking a bit in the 4th and STAT rolling to the elbow, where Melo found him about 3 or 4 times for an open jumper but they were just bricks. To blame Melo for this game is insane.

I think Lin is the engine that makes the team go, but the best player is still Melo. Kind of like Rondo and Pierce were in '08. We knew without Rondo they weren't doing anything, but their best player was Pierce/KG.

No way man you cannot compare this team to the championship Celts.

They had the best D in the league.

We were second best D until Melo came back. Opponents dropping 100 on us again.

Hell, I'll go on to say that Melo ain't half the player Paul Pierce is right now.

[Yanch856]

What's the last PG-centric team to win a title?

Celtics with Rajon Rondo

[DMV2]

Agree. But that's if Melo can improve to the point whee he can play like PP. Seriously this Knicks team is like the 2007 Celtics team man:

Chandler = Garnett.
Amare not = Perk.
Melo = PP.
JR/Novak = Ray Ray.
Lin = Rondo.

Damn we have amare rather than perk.
But there's a huge huge gap between their defensive abilities. :oldlol:

[Sarcastic]

But there's a huge huge gap between their coach. :oldlol:

Fixed.

[NuggetsFan]

I think the biggest problem is going to be Melo's mentality. Not much use to your team when he's only taking 10 shots. Melo got paid because of his scoring ability. Maybe this team isn't a fit for his ability but Melo going out there playing like LeBron James in the 4th quarter isn't going to do much.

If you can't fit Melo in your offense as your 1st\2nd option who is scoring 20+ than you might as well move him for more depth\team oriented players like Mike D did in PHX. Iggy + some of Philly's shooters. Melo on PHX with Nash and Amare? Would have been a waste.

Or suppose you could just give it some time. Hope Melo\Lin\Amare develop some chemistry and mesh .. but where's the fun in that :lol

[linZoMourning]

the media in new york is just a double edged sword I mean on one hand they blow up jeremy lin to epic proportions then on the other end they are ready to run melo out of town.. its just insane... I honestly would not want to play for the knicks.

do you think lebron was thinking the same thing ?? the media would turn on him

[Sarcastic]

I think the biggest problem is going to be Melo's mentality. Not much use to your team when he's only taking 10 shots. Melo got paid because of his scoring ability. Maybe this team isn't a fit for his ability but Melo going out there playing like LeBron James in the 4th quarter isn't going to do much.

If you can't fit Melo in your offense as your 1st\2nd option who is scoring 20+ than you might as well move him for more depth\team oriented players like Mike D did in PHX. Iggy + some of Philly's shooters. Melo on PHX with Nash and Amare? Would have been a waste.

Or suppose you could just give it some time. Hope Melo\Lin\Amare develop some chemistry and mesh .. but where's the fun in that :lol

At this point, it's time to decide if Melo or the coach will be here for the long haul.

[Yanch856]

But there's a huge huge gap between their defensive abilities. :oldlol:

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: I typed that and was like wait hold on a minute.

LOL that Celts team was the top D in the world in 2007.

hey hey but NY was getting up there 5th in defense efficiency, before the defensive liabilities that are Amare and Melo coming back to the team.

[StateOfMind12]

What's the last PG-centric team to win a title?
Magic Johnson with the Lakers.

When's the last time a ball-stopping inefficient shooting SF-centric team won a title though? :confusedshrug:

[fubu05]

No way man you cannot compare this team to the championship Celts.

They had the best D in the league.

We were second best D until Melo came back. Opponents dropping 100 on us again.

Agreed, I think with the emergence of Lin, and the really deep bench, this team reminds me a lot more of the Celtics than the Heat. The Heat are an extremely fast, small group, while the Knicks are more of a slower but bigger team. Kind of like the Celtics, I see the Knicks thriving in the half-court, which is where teams get the majority of their points in the playoffs. Thats why I think this team is really dangerous, not to mention that the defense they have played thus far has been a lot better than expected. 6th or 7th in the league if I'm not mistaken.

[strifed169]

It wasn't really Melo's fault in anyway, the refs took that win, they destroyed any rythem the Knicks had going when they go tth 10 pt lead in the first by handing Tyson 2-3 early ticky tack fouls (1 where he got fouled and they charged him for it rofl).

But if we were to really blame someone it shoudl be Lin, he wasn't doing a good job finding his guys in key moments. When he's attacking the rim and JR and Novak are sitting idle outside the perimeter he shoots it instead of dishing it, he's turning into a shotjacking PG -.- many times JR was open and he never found him, I even started feeling bad for the guy.

[Sarcastic]

Magic Johnson with the Lakers.

When's the last time a ball-stopping inefficient shooting SF-centric team won a title though? :confusedshrug:

Melo is not a ballstopping player. At least when he isn't coached by Mike D'Antoni.

[NuggetsFan]

Melo is not a ballstopping player. At least when he isn't coached by Mike D'Antoni.

Melo's not a cancer. You can win with him, he's proved it in college. With Denver he made the playoffs, WCF.

He's a ballstopper in the same way Kobe Bryant is. He's at his best playing 1 vs 1. ISOing him on the elbow. Posting him up. He's not a Kevin Durant where he's going to constantly run off screens. He creates for himself and that's when he's at his best. From his rookie season till his last year in Denver. Probably why he's having such a down year because he's being asked to have to create for others and by doing that it's clearly affecting his individual play.

He can play with PG's. Played with a ball dominant Iverson. Chauncey was more of a scoring PG than a PG that set the table. 'Dre Miller. Never going to be a guy who doesn't excel playing 1 on 1 tho, not to say that doesn't work because obviously alot of superstars are like that. No clue if it'll work in NY or he'll just continue to be half the player he use to be.

[Yanch856]

Agreed, I think with the emergence of Lin, and the really deep bench, this team reminds me a lot more of the Celtics than the Heat. The Heat are an extremely fast, small group, while the Knicks are more of a slower but bigger team. Kind of like the Celtics, I see the Knicks thriving in the half-court, which is where teams get the majority of their points in the playoffs. Thats why I think this team is really dangerous, not to mention that the defense they have played thus far has been a lot better than expected. 6th or 7th in the league if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah we have the potential to be like 2007 Celts, BUT, it's like Barkley said on ESPN NY, Knicks will have no problems on the offensive end with Lin dishing and scoring and slashing.

Whether Melo and Amare will play defense at the level of paul pierce and Perkins is the defining question for the Knicks.

[wang4three]

But if we were to really blame someone it shoudl be Lin, he wasn't doing a good job finding his guys in key moments. When he's attacking the rim and JR and Novak are sitting idle outside the perimeter he shoots it instead of dishing it, he's turning into a shotjacking PG -.- many times JR was open and he never found him, I even started feeling bad for the guy.

So Novak, who was 3-10 deserved more shots??? And JR, who was 2-8 and jacking up difficult shots, also deserved more shots???

Give me a break. The team added essentially three new guys tonight (JR, Melo, and Baron) and loss two consistent rotational guys (Walker, Shumpert).. It'll take time to gel.

Any overreaction at this point is unwarranted or unfounded.

[ballashotcalla]

Imagine the headlines if the Knicks won the Hornets game.

[bagelred]

Imagine the headlines if the Knicks won the Hornets game.

Eh......still same thing......one loss during the "Lin era" isn't that big a deal. The Hornets were really just on their game, and Knicks looked flat. It happens.

[jstern]

I really wouldn't be surprised if that turns out to be the case. Just the combination of the way Lin is playing with such little experience, and his mentality/personality, I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be a top 5 player.

For those with low comprehension, I said I wouldn't be surprised, and I did not say that I think he's a top 5 player right now, nor that he will definitely be a top 5 player in the future.

[Celtics4ever]

Which makes him the best player. He's the player that can get you wins, if you let him lead the team.

You are an idiot. Lin will fall off in the next 5-10 games to a 13ppg-8assists type of player. Which isn't bad, but to call him the best player on the Knicks is stupid of you. Quit overrating the guy more than he already is by ESPN. Get off his nuts until he proves himself.

[Shepseskaf]

The elephant in the living room is that this team has played its best ball without Amare and Carmelo. People can talk all they want about 'making adjustments' etc., but the eyeballs don't lie.

[Droid101]

I'm telling you. You could trade Melo and BEAST the league.

Melo and Chandler for Dwight? Game over league.

Melo for Josh Smith and Kirk or Williams? A good defensive team (the Knicks) become even better.

Or build for the future, trade Melo for Monroe and filler. Or some other trade that'll involve young players to build around Lin.

Or to Boston for Ray Ray, Bass and filler.

I don't know. But the point is, the Knicks were playing great with just Lin and no Amare/Melo because they were playing good defense. Get some more defense in there and the winning will increase.

[bagelred]

You are an idiot. Lin will fall off in the next 5-10 games to a 13ppg-8assists type of player.

And what makes you think that? He's averaged 24.6 PPG in 10 straight games, his first 9 starts. You think he's going to forget how to score?

[airchibundo507]

Not gonna lie, I'm not even worried one bit. Knicks were rolling before D'Antoni messed up the rhythm and played the bench for like 7 straight mins, it went from 13-3 to beind down by 5 or something like that.

But for the first time this year, I saw Melo play off the ball, he had a beautiful backdoor cut to the basket but just missed the layup, and Chandler set a beautiful pick for him which he rolled off, pinpoint pass by Lin, he just missed the open jumper. This was all in the 1st quarter. After that, they never played like that again. I think with time Melo will play more and more off the ball.

Also, anyone notice Melo playmaking a bit in the 4th and STAT rolling to the elbow, where Melo found him about 3 or 4 times for an open jumper but they were just bricks. To blame Melo for this game is insane.

I think Lin is the engine that makes the team go, but the best player is still Melo. Kind of like Rondo and Pierce were in '08. We knew without Rondo they weren't doing anything, but their best player was Pierce/KG.

great post.

despite one-sided reffing, chandler foul trouble, Melo rust, D'antoni leaving the bench unit in too long, technicals ruining our momentum and DWill draining every three imaginable, we still kept the game somewhat close

elite teams lose games all the time when the opponent lets loose a barrage of treys. i'm not worried one bit.

[Droid101]

great post.

despite one-sided reffing, chandler foul trouble, Melo rust, D'antoni leaving the bench unit in too long, technicals ruining our momentum and DWill draining every three imaginable, we still kept the game somewhat close

elite teams lose games all the time when the opponent lets loose a barrage of treys. i'm not worried one bit.
In New York? You have got to be kidding me. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[airchibundo507]

In New York? You have got to be kidding me. :roll: :roll: :roll:

did you watch the motherfcking game?

[Celtics4ever]

And what makes you think that? He's averaged 24.6 PPG in 10 straight games, his first 9 starts. You think he's going to forget how to score?

So you proclaim him the best player on the Knicks after seeing him play for 10 games against scrub teams?

How many years have you watched the NBA? Teams had neevr seen him play before, they will eventually start watching his film and adjust to him defensively and that's when he will get exposed, we have already seen it done during last nights game, it will keep getting worse for Lin. Remember Brandon Jennings? Lin will also grow as a player too. I can see him being a 17ppg-10apg player at the peak of his career at best, and that's if he doesn't hit a wall.

But get off his nuts for saying he is the best player on the Knicks. Not unless Amare and Melo get injured or something.

Not to mention that Lin doesn't know what defense means. He might tied with old man Derrick Fisher for the worst defender at the PG position.

[All Net]

No melo it's still the knicks best player. Nothing has changed.

[airchibundo507]

Lin is currently playing better than both of them but Melo is the greatest talent on the Knicks team. He has made strides in passing this season (nobody wants to mention his 6 assists last night) but his shooting has been sh*t.

[Droid101]

The longer they wait, the less they'll be able to get back in a trade. Should have done the trade the second Lin netted his 38th point in Madison Square Garden against the Los Angeles Lakers.

[DMV2]

So you proclaim him the best player on the Knicks after seeing him play for 10 games against scrub teams?

How many years have you watched the NBA? Teams had neevr seen him play before, they will eventually start watching his film and adjust to him defensively and that's when he will get exposed, we have already seen it done during last nights game, it will keep getting worse for Lin. Remember Brandon Jennings? Lin will also grow as a player too. I can see him being a 17ppg-10apg player at the peak of his career at best, and that's if he doesn't hit a wall.

But get off his nuts for saying he is the best player on the Knicks. Not unless Amare and Melo get injured or something.
So the Lakers and Mavs are scrub teams now.

What would you call the Celtics then? :oldlol:

[detroitkid816]

no way can we say lin is better than melo. talk about an overreaction

[Celtics4ever]

So the Lakers and Mavs are scrub teams now.

What would you call the Celtics then? :oldlol:

Lakers can never defend PGs. Look at what guys like Aaron Brooks, TJ Ford have done with the Lakers. Lakers give the highest PPG to the Pg position for the past 4 years.

[airchibundo507]

So the Lakers and Mavs are scrub teams now.

What would you call the Celtics then? :oldlol:

both of those were home games. And the Mavs were up in the fourth until Novak scored 14 early fourth quarter points.

[Droid101]

no way can we say lin is better than melo. talk about an overreaction
Hmm...

Lin since starting:
24.6 PPG, 9.2 APG, 4.1 RPG, 2.4 SPG, 50% shooting, 34% from three, 24.2 PER rating.

Melo this year:
21.8 PPG, 4.3 APG, 5.8 RPG, 1.1 SPG, 40% shooting, 30% from three, 19.3 PER rating.

:confusedshrug:

[Celtics4ever]

Hmm...

Lin since starting:
24.6 PPG, 9.2 APG, 4.1 RPG, 2.4 SPG, 50% shooting, 34% from three, 24.2 PER rating.

Melo this year:
21.8 PPG, 4.3 APG, 5.8 RPG, 1.1 SPG, 40% shooting, 30% from three, 19.3 PER rating.

:confusedshrug:

Melo has played 23 games and Lin has played like 10. Why are you making yourself look like an idiot? Not to mention Teams had never seen Lin play before. Watch Lin's numbers fall back to earth and then all you Lin nut lickers will go back hiding in your caves.

[ballashotcalla]

The problems on the court is that there is no clear direction with what they want to do.

Lin hasn't really established himself to be a star and Melo is a star, but it's clear that Lin needs to be the one to close out these games while Melo takes a supporting role.

[Droid101]

Melo has played 23 games and Lin has played like 10. Why are you making yourself look like an idiot? Not to mention Teams had never seen Lin play before. Watch Lin's numbers fall back to earth and then all you Lin nut lickers will go back hiding in your caves.
Are you people for real? Jeremy Lin is just the same as any quick point guard. Except Lin always goes right.

Force him left, go under screens, or trap him (like Dallas tried).

It's pretty simple. It's not like he's doing something no other point guards have ever done, and teams need to "meticulously study tape" in order to understand how to guard him.

:facepalm

[TheMan]

Lin is not the Knicks best player, forget that, but he is a ballsy little fukk, not afraid of taking the big shot, I like that.

[stevieming]

I can't believe people are writing off Melo. Calling him a role player! WTF!

This man is a proven scorer, and you're going to need his scoring in the playoffs.

Melo has come off a knee injury in the off season, conditioning wasn't great and he probably over did it and hurt himself trying to do too much.

I predict big things for Melo & Lin & Chandler next year!:rockon: :rockon:

[NortonMang]

Knicks have now lost two of their last three games. Of course the losses were to powerhouse teams Hornets and Nets. The bloom is off the rose.

[DCL]

lin got destroyed by deron williams.

[HoopDreams247]

lin got destroyed by deron williams.

Did you even watch the game? DWill only made 2 of his 8 threes against Lin, and at least 9 of his points came when Lin was on the bench.

[FKAri]

Not to mention that Lin doesn't know what defense means. He might tied with old man Derrick Fisher for the worst defender at the PG position.

Rondo is a bad defender. See I can say stupid shit too :lol. Watch the games, not the boxscores. He's an above average perimeter defender. Great help defender, but he's a poor post defender.


lin got destroyed by deron williams.

So mad.

Im getting tired of Lin's stans and haters duking it out. Kid's playing amazing ball. His haters are clearly not watching his games while his stans are Knicks fans that are so close to climaxing theyve lost all objectivity (or are just flat out trolling when they say things like Lin's their best player).

[DCL]

Did you even watch the game? DWill only made 2 of his 8 threes against Lin, and at least 9 of his points came when Lin was on the bench.

yeah, did you??? he was crossing lin up all game and losing him. lin can't keep up. you only watch the shot. but you miss the whole process. lin simply got no defense for d will's handles.

[HoopDreams247]

yeah, did you??? he was crossing lin up all game and losing him. lin can't keep up. you only watch the shot. but you miss the whole process. lin simply got no defense for d will's handles.

lolwut? Deron's points came off of screens.

[DCL]

lolwut? Deron's points came off of screens.

you only watch what you what to see. fact is that deron was going anywhere with the ball with lin guarding him.

[Yanch856]

yeah, did you??? he was crossing lin up all game and losing him. lin can't keep up. you only watch the shot. but you miss the whole process. lin simply got no defense for d will's handles.

Well I guess they are now even because did you watch the breakout game on the 6th feb? yeah, did you??? he was crossing DWill up all game and losing him. DWill can't keep up.

To paraphrase.

Man obviously DWill had the ulterior motive to come out and show Lin up.

Lin had more important things on his agenda on the night such as balancing distribution to 3 new teamates lol. Who cares about DWill? It's all about Lin.

[Killbot]

you only watch what you what to see. fact is that deron was going anywhere with the ball with lin guarding him.

What he is saying is true, but not all Deron's points came of screens. Still, Deron used screens to cause separation between him and Lin.

[Blue&Orange]

No PG on the league could have stopped Deron yesterday, and let's not forget he only played like that because Lin embarrassed him the first time they met.

When other PG embarrasses Deron and then is able to stop his revenge, then we can say Lin was at fault.