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StateOfMind12
02-20-2012, 11:28 PM
Seriously, Amare is like Andrea Bargnani-like when it comes to rebounding.


Amare grabbed 4 rebounds today.

Lin? 7 rebounds. Now I know Lin is great and the best player on the Knicks but there is no reason why a PF should be outrebounded by a PG. :facepalm

inclinerator
02-20-2012, 11:29 PM
yep, he sucks and is a totem pole on defense

hawkfan
02-20-2012, 11:30 PM
Amare = overrated, overpaid.

swi7ch
02-20-2012, 11:32 PM
Joel Anthony is.

They should trade Amare and Melo.

No Evans!
02-20-2012, 11:33 PM
Did Brook Lopez die?

inclinerator
02-20-2012, 11:33 PM
at least joel gets offense rebounds

ClutchOver9000
02-20-2012, 11:35 PM
Seriously, Amare is like Andrea Bargnani-like when it comes to rebounding.


Amare grabbed 4 rebounds today.

Lin? 7 rebounds. Now I know Lin is great and the best player on the Knicks but there is no reason why a PF should be outrebounded by a PG. :facepalm

Not a rebounder, a defender on par w/ Boozer ( at least Boozer rebounds)

now offensively he sucks...

Like I said, he's washed up and its tragic that he's stuck w/ the Knicks for 5 more years...dude looks and plays like he's aged 10 years

kingBynum
02-20-2012, 11:39 PM
he should ask Reggie Evans for advice:oldlol:

Yanch856
02-20-2012, 11:40 PM
Amare is washed up man.

He better find some way to channel is old self cos he's paid like a superstar when he should be on the bench.

FFS how many times have i watched him being blocked and humiliated in the paint??

StateOfMind12
02-20-2012, 11:42 PM
Amare is washed up man.

He better find some way to channel is old self cos he's paid like a superstar when he should be on the bench.
He was never even a good rebounder in Phoenix. I don't think he ever averaged 10 rpg in his NBA career and they played in incredibly fast pace games in Phoenix.

CLTHornets4eva
02-20-2012, 11:43 PM
Did Brook Lopez die?
:lol :applause: One of the worst non scrub big men rebounders for sure.

CLTHornets4eva
02-20-2012, 11:43 PM
Did Brook Lopez die?
:lol :applause: One of the worst non scrub big men rebounders for sure.

bingo123
02-20-2012, 11:44 PM
Seriously what happened with him? A year ago he was playing good but this year he looks like he aged for 5 years in a few months.

TheBigVeto
02-20-2012, 11:54 PM
Seriously, Amare is like Andrea Bargnani-like when it comes to rebounding.


Amare grabbed 4 rebounds today.

Lin? 7 rebounds. Now I know Lin is great and the best player on the Knicks but there is no reason why a PF should be outrebounded by a PG. :facepalm

And this is news how?
He has always been a soft PF who doesn't rebound.

gyu
02-20-2012, 11:55 PM
He seems to have pretty bad hands, I've seen him let the ball slip out of his hands on a few recent occasions when the ball comes to him.

Whoah10115
02-21-2012, 12:21 AM
He said he felt like a beast and now he plays like a guy who really sucks at basketball.

JMT
02-21-2012, 06:56 AM
And this is news how?
He has always been a soft PF who doesn't rebound.


No, no, many of these were the same posters proclaiming him the best PF in the game, slamming PHX for letting him walk.

Just let a guy get some prime highlight dunks on ESPN and ISH names them GOAT.

blablabla
02-21-2012, 07:02 AM
He seems to have pretty bad hands, I've seen him let the ball slip out of his hands on a few recent occasions when the ball comes to him.
this
sometimes he can't even catch lins passes

CavaliersFTW
02-21-2012, 07:14 AM
http://wheretowatch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/AmareGoggles.jpg

Kiddlovesnets
02-21-2012, 11:18 AM
Well this... Brook Lopez says hi...
:facepalm

InfiniteBaskets
02-21-2012, 01:35 PM
Well rebounding is 50% positioning and 50% effort. So that right there should give you your answer.

Blue&Orange
02-21-2012, 02:11 PM
Stat is averaging 8 rebounds a game... but hey let's not let that get in the way, please let the idiocy continue.

MELOgamaniac
02-21-2012, 02:23 PM
We still have brook lopez, bargani, and dirk in this lg.

MELOgamaniac
02-21-2012, 02:26 PM
oh and also NENE

D12"Magic"
02-21-2012, 02:27 PM
One season should never justify a guy's career in terms to Lopez. Stop over blowing everything over to typical proportions.

airchibundo507
02-21-2012, 02:28 PM
One season should never justify a guy's career in terms to Lopez. Stop over blowing everything over to typical proportions.

lmao

Rnbizzle
02-21-2012, 02:29 PM
Darko says hi

NattyPButter
02-21-2012, 02:42 PM
When did Ryan Hollins die? He's the worst big rebounder i ever seen. Just look at his stats.

Sarcastic
02-21-2012, 02:48 PM
Seriously, Amare is like Andrea Bargnani-like when it comes to rebounding.


Amare grabbed 4 rebounds today.

Lin? 7 rebounds. Now I know Lin is great and the best player on the Knicks but there is no reason why a PF should be outrebounded by a PG. :facepalm

Knicks take a lot of jump shots, which produces a lot of long rebounds. That's how Lin and Fields always get so many. It's not like Lin was blocking people out for those boards.

Kujo
02-21-2012, 02:49 PM
Nah, Andrea Bargnani is clearly the worse big man rebounder in the NBA.

chips93
02-21-2012, 02:59 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&per_minute_base=36&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2007&year_max=2012&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=mp_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=25&c2stat=g&c2comp=gt&c2val=55&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=trb_pct&order_by_asc=Y

of big men who played at least 25 mpg, and 55 games in a season, since the 06/07 season, boris diaw has the 5 worst TRB% seasons.

he is far and away the worst rebounding big man.

channing frye and eddy curry have also been abhorrent over this period of time on the boards

bargnani is also a lot worse than amare on the boards

amare is below average, but not horrible

JohnnyWall
02-21-2012, 03:04 PM
One season should never justify a guy's career in terms to Lopez. Stop over blowing everything over to typical proportions.

Amar'e is averaging 8.8 rebounds per game over his career. He has never had a single season where he averaged double-digit rebounds. While other bigs put up far better numbers on the boards... Griffin (12 RPG), Love (12 RPG), Duncan (11 RPG), even Bosh (9.2 RPG) has had several 10 RPG seasons.

D12"Magic"
02-21-2012, 03:07 PM
Amar'e is averaging 8.8 rebounds per game over his career. He has never had a single season where he averaged double-digit rebounds. While other bigs put up far better numbers on the boards... Griffin (12 RPG), Love (12 RPG), Duncan (11 RPG), even Bosh (9.2 RPG) has had several 10 RPG seasons.
I was talking about Lopez :lol

JohnnyWall
02-21-2012, 03:12 PM
I was talking about Lopez :lol

Well, what the ****? Why bring up Lopez in a thread about Amar'e? :oldlol:

D12"Magic"
02-21-2012, 03:14 PM
Well, what the ****? Why bring up Lopez in a thread about Amar'e? :oldlol:
People were saying he is a bad rebounder, which he was a season ago, but one season should never justify someone's career.

Your Avy? :wtf: :facepalm :oldlol:

linZoMourning
02-21-2012, 03:27 PM
amare just doesnt have a high bball iq thats all. we knew this in phoenix

GOBB
02-21-2012, 03:59 PM
I should bump Amare threads when Knicks signed him and his first year with NY. Just to get a chuckle out of Knicks fans posts then vs now.

GOBB
02-21-2012, 04:00 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&per_minute_base=36&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2007&year_max=2012&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=mp_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=25&c2stat=g&c2comp=gt&c2val=55&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=trb_pct&order_by_asc=Y

of big men who played at least 25 mpg, and 55 games in a season, since the 06/07 season, boris diaw has the 5 worst TRB% seasons.

he is far and away the worst rebounding big man.

channing frye and eddy curry have also been abhorrent over this period of time on the boards

bargnani is also a lot worse than amare on the boards

amare is below average, but not horrible

Curry is terrible. I give Frye somewhat of a pass because he's nothing more than a tall as shooting guard to me. I never expected him to rebound much and he camps out around the perimeter/beyond the arc more than the interior. Amare/Curry? The interior is where they live, yet they couldnt outrebound me.

Blue&Orange
02-21-2012, 04:26 PM
amare is below average, but not horrible
He is average. He is not below average. There are more PF below him that above him in rebounding.

JMT
02-21-2012, 04:35 PM
He is average. He is not below average. There are more PF below him that above him in rebounding.


Sure, if you want to count every PF in the league.

For his size, the lack of focus he puts on defense, and his standard court positioning, he's an atrociously bad rebounder.

Ryan Anderson pulls down more offensve boards.

Josh Smith and 45 yr old Tim Duncan (in 6 fewer minutes per gm) out rebound him handily.

RRR3
02-21-2012, 04:55 PM
Amar'e is not a great rebounder, but his rebounding ability (or rather, his lack thereof) is greatly exaggerated. He averaged 8.8 RPG in 31.3 MPG his rookie year (10.1 RPG per 36), and 9.6 RPG in 32.8 MPG in 2007 (10.5 per 36). Let's compare Amare to other PF's who are usually the starters on their current team.


Total Rebounds Per 36 minutes career:
Kevin Love-13.9 RPG
Tim Duncan-11.5 RPG
Blake Griffin-11.3 RPG
Carlos Boozer-11.1 RPG
David Lee-11.1 RPG
Kris Humphries-11.0 RPG
Kevin Garnett-10.5 RPG
Zach Randolph-10.4 RPG
Serge Ibaka-10.3 RPG
Drew Gooden-10.2 RPG
Amir Johnson-9.6 RPG
Jason Thompson-9.5 RPG
Paul Millsap-9.4 RPG
Elton Brand-9.3 RPG
Luis Scola-9.3 RPG
Pau Gasol-9.2 RPG
Amar'e Stoudemire-9.2 RPG
Chris Bosh-9.0 RPG
Andray Blatche-8.6 RPG
Ryan Anderson-8.5 RPG
Josh Smith-8.3 RPG
Dirk Nowitzki-8.2 RPG
David West-8.1 RPG
LaMarcus Aldridge-7.8 RPG
Channing Frye-7.8 RPG
Antawn Jamison-7.8 RPG
Boris Diaw-5.8 RPG

ILLsmak
02-21-2012, 05:02 PM
Seriously, Amare is like Andrea Bargnani-like when it comes to rebounding.


Amare grabbed 4 rebounds today.

Lin? 7 rebounds. Now I know Lin is great and the best player on the Knicks but there is no reason why a PF should be outrebounded by a PG. :facepalm

Amare is a ****ing clown. If he was rebounding as he should have been on Phoenix, he'd have been getting like 14 rebounds a game. And he's just regressed since then. Another ****ed up thing is he's not really a big minute guy. For the type of star he is and the shape he is in, he should be like 40 mpg.

He was a great fit in Phoenix, but he's really not a star player. He could be, but he's not.

-Smak

StateOfMind12
02-21-2012, 05:06 PM
Stat is averaging 8 rebounds a game... but hey let's not let that get in the way, please let the idiocy continue.

Amare has not averaged 10 rpg in his career even in Phoenix when they were running and gunning non-stop. You know that running and gunning gives you more of a chance to get more boards right?

If Amare never averaged 10 rpg in his career and played less than 30 mpg and they played in a slow tempo then 8 rpg is fine, it would probably be good.

However, the fact that Amare played like around 35 mpg every season in Phoenix and in New York and they all played a fast run and gun system and he still can't average 10+ rpg is terrible.

This guy might not be the worst, but he is certainly up in the discussion for it.

chips93
02-21-2012, 05:23 PM
He is average. He is not below average. There are more PF below him that above him in rebounding.

. . . except he's not

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&per_minute_base=36&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2012&year_max=2012&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=gs&c1comp=gt&c1val=20&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=trb_pct

of big men who have started 20 games this year (29 players qualify), amar'e is 24th in total rebound percentage.

hes been worse than i initially thought

DFish
02-21-2012, 05:30 PM
Amar'e is not a great rebounder, but his rebounding ability (or rather, his lack thereof) is greatly exaggerated. He averaged 8.8 RPG in 31.3 MPG his rookie year (10.1 RPG per 36), and 9.6 RPG in 32.8 MPG in 2007 (10.5 per 36). Let's compare Amare to other PF's who are usually the starters on their current team.


Total Rebounds Per 36 minutes career:
Kevin Love-13.9 RPG
Tim Duncan-11.5 RPG
Blake Griffin-11.3 RPG
Carlos Boozer-11.1 RPG
David Lee-11.1 RPG
Kris Humphries-11.0 RPG
Kevin Garnett-10.5 RPG
Zach Randolph-10.4 RPG
Serge Ibaka-10.3 RPG
Drew Gooden-10.2 RPG
Amir Johnson-9.6 RPG
Jason Thompson-9.5 RPG
Paul Millsap-9.4 RPG
Elton Brand-9.3 RPG
Luis Scola-9.3 RPG
Pau Gasol-9.2 RPG
Amar'e Stoudemire-9.2 RPG
Chris Bosh-9.0 RPG
Andray Blatche-8.6 RPG
Ryan Anderson-8.5 RPG
Josh Smith-8.3 RPG
Dirk Nowitzki-8.2 RPG
David West-8.1 RPG
LaMarcus Aldridge-7.8 RPG
Channing Frye-7.8 RPG
Antawn Jamison-7.8 RPG
Boris Diaw-5.8 RPG

LaMarcus Aldridge is a surprisingly shitty rebounder.

TheBluest
02-21-2012, 05:46 PM
He's a disgrace in this area of his game when you consider his physical tools, then when you add the fact he makes $20mil per season.....then it moves to

NOT SURE IF AMAR'E IS SERIOUS

but hey Smelo said at the presser when he came to the Knicks that they would tell each other if either needed to grab 15-20reb then they'd get it done....:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

I hope the Knicks trade both players for players who fit their system team better but may not necessarily be the better players in...

This Guy
http://shatterthebackboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Kevin-Martin.jpg

&


This Guy
http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/07/sports/David_Lee-1.jpg


And since Smelo and Amar'e make more than these guys trades can be supplemented with other players to make it more balanced.

bagelred
08-06-2012, 03:15 AM
:coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman:

imdaman99
08-06-2012, 03:17 AM
well yeah, plus his defense is pathetic. but damn he was so good 1st half of 2010-2011.

LakersForlife
08-06-2012, 09:33 PM
turiaf > amare.nash made amare

Levity
08-06-2012, 09:44 PM
turiaf > amare.nash made amare

nash fukked amares mom?!?!? is that why he really left phx?!?!?!?

:eek: :wtf:

Mr. Incredible
08-06-2012, 09:46 PM
Geez, StateofMind really hates the Knicks

RoundMoundOfReb
08-06-2012, 09:53 PM
Stoudemire is trash. Low bball IQ low life IQ. there is no reason he shouldn't be getting blake griffin type rebounding numbers with his athleticism. Unfortunately he doesn't have the Motor blake does.

kobron23
08-06-2012, 10:33 PM
Stoudemire is trash. Low bball IQ low life IQ. there is no reason he shouldn't be getting blake griffin type rebounding numbers with his athleticism. Unfortunately he doesn't have the Motor blake does.

completely agree

NUPE_1911
08-06-2012, 10:38 PM
The last two years Amare has averaged between 8 and 9 boards at the PF spot. I am pretty sure I can find worse big men rebounders. 8 to 9 boards is not bad at all for a PF. It is not elite but it is not bad.

ncrizzle
08-06-2012, 10:48 PM
Zach Randolph cant even jump over a ham sandwich and is a bit on the heavy side, yet still has a career AVG of 10.4. Amare is taller and superior athletically. Dude just doesnt have the effort. Its a shame, bc he could be one of the best players in the league

kNicKz
08-06-2012, 11:29 PM
Tired of hearing that Amare doesn't have the drive, etc. He looks crippled on the field because he is crippled. His back is SHOT. It's impressive that he is even playing at this level. SMH at "amare doesn't have the motor". Get out of here with that bullshit :coleman: Dude put up like 25-10 in PHX and 20-8 when healthy in New york. You all sound like a bunch of skip baylesses making these callouts

SevereUpInHere
08-06-2012, 11:34 PM
completely agree


RG, how many accounts do you have in here agreeing with each other? It's pretty sad man. Clearly the OP, kobron23 and RoundMound are you, why even bother, you hate the Knicks, we get it...

RoundMoundOfReb
08-06-2012, 11:35 PM
RG, how many accounts do you have in here agreeing with each other? It's pretty sad man. Clearly the OP, kobron23 and RoundMound are you, why even bother, you hate the Knicks, we get it...
I only have one account on this forum. Who is RG anyways?

Freedom Kid7
08-06-2012, 11:41 PM
You know what's even worse than his rebounding? His Goddamn defense. One on One, help defense, doesn't matter. He's terrible. Tyson does a good job filling in the gap that Amare provides.
Seriously, it's in the Boozer-tier. At least Boozer can grab a rebound though.

TheBigVeto
08-06-2012, 11:44 PM
And this is news, how?
He has always sucked in rebounding. Softest PF of all time.

SevereUpInHere
08-06-2012, 11:47 PM
I only have one account on this forum. Who is RG anyways?


:rolleyes:

OmniStrife
08-07-2012, 02:45 AM
http://i.imgur.com/VxLz3.png

kNicKz
08-07-2012, 12:43 PM
Softest PF of all time.

http://redsarmy.typepad.com/.a/6a01156f2c3287970c01156ff9c14f970c-pi