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JGXEN
02-21-2012, 10:00 AM
So what would you do if you were in Danny Ainge's shoes?

For me, I will be open to trading anyone especially Rondo. I think Paul should retire a Celtic, and he would still be valuable as a scorer and facilitator at times for the team even 2 years down the road.
KG is done, for sure. But his massive $20M contract running its last year this season makes him a valuable asset to teams looking to shed salary to entice top free agents in the FA next season.
I'm not sure what to do with Ray. He is still serviceable, and he is still a great shooter but same as KG, his $10M contract expires after this season so he could be another asset to move as well.
I would be very open towards trading Rondo. He has a very reasonable price tag (4YEARS, $46M) for an elite PG who is still young and can contribute greatly to contenders.

Like what AMISTILLILL has posted before, I agree with him that we should start rebuilding now than waiting for KG and Ray's contract to expire. Rebuilding process should start ASAP to prepare for the next era in Boston.

So what do you guys think?

ILLsmak
02-21-2012, 10:06 AM
So what would you do if you were in Danny Ainge's shoes?

For me, I will be open to trading anyone especially Rondo. I think Paul should retire a Celtic, and he would still be valuable as a scorer and facilitator at times for the team even 2 years down the road.
KG is done, for sure. But his massive $20M contract running its last year this season makes him a valuable asset to teams looking to shed salary to entice top free agents in the FA next season.
I'm not sure what to do with Ray. He is still serviceable, and he is still a great shooter but same as KG, his $10M contract expires after this season so he could be another asset to move as well.
I would be very open towards trading Rondo. He has a very reasonable price tag (4YEARS, $46M) for an elite PG who is still young and can contribute greatly to contenders.

Like what AMISTILLILL has posted before, I agree with him that we should start rebuilding now than waiting for KG and Ray's contract to expire. Rebuilding process should start ASAP to prepare for the next era in Boston.

So what do you guys think?

If I was gonna trade Rondo I'd wanna get a superstar wing or big back.

-Smak

bluechox2
02-21-2012, 10:08 AM
trade for draft picks and rebuild

chips93
02-21-2012, 10:09 AM
probably trade rondo. pierce should retire a celtic. ray allen should be traded too, he could have some real value on a lot of contenders. im not sure garnett is gonna play after this year, so im not sure what happens with him.

Rose
02-21-2012, 10:14 AM
Rondo for....Big Al?


Utah needs a point guard.

Boston needs a young guy to start the next era. and he returns to where it all started!

JGXEN
02-21-2012, 10:15 AM
trade for draft picks and rebuild
Not sure which team will offer a lottery pick unprotected lol. This year's draft seems loaded man

JGXEN
02-21-2012, 10:17 AM
Rondo for....Big Al?


Utah needs a point guard.

Boston needs a young guy to start the next era. and he returns to where it all started!
Rondo+Bass for Millsap+Favors?

Rose
02-21-2012, 10:20 AM
Rondo+Bass for Millsap+Favors?
Trade GM Rose, only accepts trades that involve getting Big Al out of Utah, when managing Utah.:lol




but if I were unbiased,....yes. maybe.

JMT
02-21-2012, 10:22 AM
Aren't Garnett and Allen coming off the books? If so, there's no rush to do anything. They're not making moves that will put them into serious contention this year. Let them expire, figure out what it might be worth to resign one or both. Nobody's going to be beating down their doors offering big deals.

Pierce might be the moving part if a real contender was hit with a decimating injury. You could really maximize his value if a serious contender was to lose their #1 or 2 option.

Rondo stays. In today's NBA you can build faster around the PG position than anywhere else on the floor unless you're talking a generational big man. And there aren't any of those floating around.

JtotheIzzo
02-21-2012, 10:27 AM
trading Rondo is tricky because that leaves Avery Bradley who is falkin terrible as your PG. Likely not gonna happen in season.

Get Dallas involved in a 3 team deal, they'd take Garnett for a playoff run and get him off the books so they can pursue Howard and Williams in the summer?

But that is just a guess, not even sure if that would work.

JGXEN
02-21-2012, 10:34 AM
Aren't Garnett and Allen coming off the books? If so, there's no rush to do anything. They're not making moves that will put them into serious contention this year. Let them expire, figure out what it might be worth to resign one or both. Nobody's going to be beating down their doors offering big deals.

Pierce might be the moving part if a real contender was hit with a decimating injury. You could really maximize his value if a serious contender was to lose their #1 or 2 option.

Rondo stays. In today's NBA you can build faster around the PG position than anywhere else on the floor unless you're talking a generational big man. And there aren't any of those floating around.
Rondo's inconsistency really bothers me. In some games when he is really aggressive, he looks like the best PG in the NBA and yet in the other games, he becomes passive as hell and simply stands around along the perimeter ordering guys around and be contented with it. Honestly I feel that the PG position is really overrated. You cant win a championship with your PG as the primary focus of your offense. Historically maybe only Magic did it, but Magic was really unique unlike modern PGs.


trading Rondo is tricky because that leaves Avery Bradley who is falkin terrible as your PG. Likely not gonna happen in season.

Get Dallas involved in a 3 team deal, they'd take Garnett for a playoff run and get him off the books so they can pursue Howard and Williams in the summer?

But that is just a guess, not even sure if that would work.

I'd love to have guys like Jrue Holiday or maybe Lowry running the point. Guys that play hard night in and out.

hawksdogsbraves
02-21-2012, 10:42 AM
Rondo for....Big Al?


Utah needs a point guard.

Boston needs a young guy to start the next era. and he returns to where it all started!

Has it not been determined yet that Big Al, despite being a good player, is not a guy you can build a franchise around?

PTstyle272
02-21-2012, 10:48 AM
Rondo and Allen would be perfect pieces for the Pacers to go after.

guy
02-21-2012, 10:50 AM
Don't understand why you guys would want to trade him. There's about 10-15 guys I'd trade him for and pretty much none of those guys are available.

JGXEN
02-21-2012, 10:51 AM
Guys i think Boston should try to trade for: David Lee, Paul George, Nicolas Batum.

JohnnySic
02-21-2012, 10:54 AM
- build around Rondo
- trade Allen for a young player and/or picks. I'd imagine that there would be some teams interested
- KG is almost impossible to trade due to his huge contract; let it expire and use that cap space on young, athletic players who can run with Rondo
- trade Pierce too if you can get good value; the whole "let him retire as a Celtic" idea is silly. Not interested in handing out lifetime achievement awards
-re-sign Green, Bass
- Use your picks and cap space to rebuild the team on the fly during the offseason

The situation isn't as daunting as some make it.

JGXEN
02-21-2012, 10:55 AM
Rondo+JO for Lowry+Dalembert?

PTstyle272
02-21-2012, 10:57 AM
Guys i think Boston should try to trade for: David Lee, Paul George, Nicolas Batum.
Most your going to get out of Indy is DC,Hansbrough, picks

jbryan1984
02-21-2012, 11:01 AM
You are going to be in the middle of the totem pole anyway, either 7th or 8th seed or just miss the playoffs. I would just play it out this one final year unless its a no brainer trade decision. KG and Allen coming off the books. There will be a lot of cap room and Rondo and Pierce are both playing well, that may be attractive to free agents. I gotta say I hated Boston's guts during the era where the Cavs were contenders, they eliminated us twice! But, nothing but respect for the big 3, it was a great run.

RaininTwos
02-21-2012, 11:02 AM
Why would you trade Rondo? :wtf:

Their major players are coming off the books. Let Ray and KG walk. Keep P2 and Rondo.

Try to sign Eric Gordon. Make a play for Howard.

There are many free agents to be had.

JMT
02-21-2012, 11:22 AM
Rondo's inconsistency really bothers me. In some games when he is really aggressive, he looks like the best PG in the NBA and yet in the other games, he becomes passive as hell and simply stands around along the perimeter ordering guys around and be contented with it. Honestly I feel that the PG position is really overrated. You cant win a championship with your PG as the primary focus of your offense. Historically maybe only Magic did it, but Magic was really unique unlike modern PGs.

I'd love to have guys like Jrue Holiday or maybe Lowry running the point. Guys that play hard night in and out.

With the no-hand check rules, nobody has a bigger influence on an NBA game than the PG. Now, do you win a championship with a PG? No more than you do with one great player at any position. Magic had a few pretty good players around him.

Rondo is always going to be a bit limited offensively, but his defense and playmaking set him several notches above the likes of Holiday or Lowry. He gets to the rim, rebounds well for his position, and is a very heady player. Holiday hasn't proven he's a true point. Lowry hasn't shown he can produce in a winning situation.

This Boston team has squeezed out a couple years of competitiveness due to Rondo. Pierce still a great player, though he's worth more to Boston than anyone else. Garnett and Allen are one dimensional. Bass is an upgrade over Davis, but that's not the kind of move that brings you closer to a championship. The bench has been lean. They're just not that good, and Rondo has hidden lots of their warts. If he's not reduced to playing with one hand, last year's EC could have played out quite differently.

I.R.Beast
02-21-2012, 11:26 AM
- build around Rondo
- trade Allen for a young player and/or picks. I'd imagine that there would be some teams interested
- KG is almost impossible to trade due to his huge contract; let it expire and use that cap space on young, athletic players who can run with Rondo
- trade Pierce too if you can get good value; the whole "let him retire as a Celtic" idea is silly. Not interested in handing out lifetime achievement awards
-re-sign Green, Bass
- Use your picks and cap space to rebuild the team on the fly during the offseason

The situation isn't as daunting as some make it.
u dont build around offensively limited PGs such as rondo.....he requires alot of talent around him for him and this team to be successful. Trade him for young wing player and a pick.

Kiddlovesnets
02-21-2012, 11:28 AM
It has been a good run Celtics, seriously. Too bad you know its impossible to prevent this team from falling when KG gets dominated by the likes of Yi Jianlian and Malik Allen.

JMT
02-21-2012, 11:36 AM
u dont build around offensively limited PGs such as rondo.....he requires alot of talent around him for him and this team to be successful. Trade him for young wing player and a pick.

You build around a young wing and an undetermined pick?

More to the game than scoring. That's why there are always young wings and unproven picks available, and not many top line PG.

I.R.Beast
02-21-2012, 11:40 AM
You build around a young wing and an undetermined pick?

More to the game than scoring. That's why there are always young wings and unproven picks available, and not many top line PG.

Who the hell is he gonna pass to?.....rondo is not a cornerstone type of player he's the last piece to a puzzle. You build a talented team , then u bring in a guy like rondo....not the other way around.

JMT
02-21-2012, 11:43 AM
Who the hell is he gonna pass to?.....rondo is not a cornerstone type of player he's the last piece to a puzzle. You build a talented team , then u bring in a guy like rondo....not the other way around.


Their situation is they have Rondo and big expiring contracts. Zero business sense to let KG and Ray walk, try to deal Rondo for value, and build around 34year old Paul Pierce. You can't turn over your entire roster, and Rondo & Pierce give you two solid guys to fill in pieces around.

Clutch
02-21-2012, 11:46 AM
Bass + Ray Allen for Amare.

Or something like that.

The_LA_Blakers
02-21-2012, 11:55 AM
So what would you do if you were in Danny Ainge's shoes?

For me, I will be open to trading anyone especially Rondo. I think Paul should retire a Celtic, and he would still be valuable as a scorer and facilitator at times for the team even 2 years down the road.
KG is done, for sure. But his massive $20M contract running its last year this season makes him a valuable asset to teams looking to shed salary to entice top free agents in the FA next season.
I'm not sure what to do with Ray. He is still serviceable, and he is still a great shooter but same as KG, his $10M contract expires after this season so he could be another asset to move as well.
I would be very open towards trading Rondo. He has a very reasonable price tag (4YEARS, $46M) for an elite PG who is still young and can contribute greatly to contenders.

Like what AMISTILLILL has posted before, I agree with him that we should start rebuilding now than waiting for KG and Ray's contract to expire. Rebuilding process should start ASAP to prepare for the next era in Boston.

So what do you guys think?


Do the Celts really want to give up on Rondo?


Allen would draw some interest from some contenders, and a little something back is better than nothing back.

PTstyle272
02-21-2012, 11:55 AM
Bass + Ray Allen for Amare.

Or something like that.

lol

The_LA_Blakers
02-21-2012, 11:56 AM
Rondo+JO for Lowry+Dalembert?


Oh I like that idea!

KayHaven
02-21-2012, 11:58 AM
I've been saying for a while that Ray Allen and KG could seriously help a team become serious title contenders...ala an Atlanta..Philly...Dallas..either LA's...

Just keep Paul..he's still not bad..can at least get his shot off himself ...let him stay a Celtic


But i would love to see my boy Ray End up on a real contender.....sadly the celtics days of being that is over

PTstyle272
02-21-2012, 12:04 PM
After what Allen said about West joining the Pacers, it would only be fitting for him to be traded to Indiana and eat some crow.

Tenchi Ryu
02-21-2012, 12:16 PM
Ray Allen for Kyle Korver and CJ Watson, straight up
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=85veawg

BlackWhiteGreen
02-21-2012, 12:18 PM
The home run would be Rondo for DWill, and then signing Howard in the offseason. In all likelihood, we won't be able to trade for value and it doesn't make it worthwhile. Wait til the offseason.

HylianNightmare
02-21-2012, 12:51 PM
i thought they were making a run a howard?

Whoah10115
02-21-2012, 01:36 PM
If there is any issue with them contending it's the mix of the ages. As KG is still a top 10 PF and Ray is clearly in the top 5 SG's.



What they could do is trade those guys to teams with an all-star caliber player whose place in the lineup is taking up someone else's and whose contract they'd want to get rid of.



Al Jefferson in Utah. Danny Granger in Indiana. Possibly Melo or Amare (possibly). Gerald Wallace or even Wes Matthews in Portland. Monta Ellis. Tyreke Evans. Carlos Boozer (hahahahaha). Kevin Martin. Haywood in Dallas (again, Ainge is stupid). Who knows, maybe Joe Johnson in Atlanta (Ainge is that stupid, I believe).




I'm only talking about Ray and KG. Paul Pierce should be a Celtic for life, tho I wouldn't be surprised with that idiot running the show. And Rajon Rondo has to net you something elite.

Derka
02-21-2012, 01:44 PM
There's really nothing of value we can trade for. No one wants the pieces we have except for Rondo and the only thing I'm giving Rondo up for is an equally worthy big or another top-tier point guard.

Deal with NJ for DWill since he's probably not signing there as they're not getting Howard this offseason OR trading for him. Get DWill into a two or three year extension and maybe you have a good shot at getting Howard and continuing to legitimately contend for the next three years or so while Paul Pierce finishes out his storied Celtic career. The only guys I keep in a situation where Rondo gets dealt are Paul Pierce and Brandon Bass....everyone else is on the table.

I probably let KG's contract expire at year's end unless a contender throws some seriously good pieces at me in exchange for his expirer. Same for Ray Allen...and I'm not interested in the refuse that Knicks and Lakers fans just don't want anymore, either. Legit players, not scrubs.

Clutch
02-21-2012, 02:00 PM
There's really nothing of value we can trade for. No one wants the pieces we have except for Rondo and the only thing I'm giving Rondo up for is an equally worthy big or another top-tier point guard.

Deal with NJ for DWill since he's probably not signing there as they're not getting Howard this offseason OR trading for him. Get DWill into a two or three year extension and maybe you have a good shot at getting Howard and continuing to legitimately contend for the next three years or so while Paul Pierce finishes out his storied Celtic career. The only guys I keep in a situation where Rondo gets dealt are Paul Pierce and Brandon Bass....everyone else is on the table.

I probably let KG's contract expire at year's end unless a contender throws some seriously good pieces at me in exchange for his expirer. Same for Ray Allen...and I'm not interested in the refuse that Knicks and Lakers fans just don't want anymore, either. Legit players, not scrubs.
So would you do Allen + Bass for Amare ?

I just checked and this trade needs to be a little bit adjusted (because of salary cap).

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6n66rpv

Allen + Bass + Stiensma for Amare + Jerome Jordan

Would you do it ?

Derka
02-21-2012, 02:04 PM
So would you do Allen + Bass for Amare ?

No. We already have a broken down power forward, and replacing a defensive guru with a guy who doesn't rebound OR play defense? Helps us not at all.

TMT
02-21-2012, 02:08 PM
They are going to let KG and Ray walk, and either come back with smaller contracts or pick up some enticing free agents. After that, they trade Rondo + pick in the draft to move up and snag Austin Rivers. I'm sure Doc wants to see his son play with the Big 3 that won him a championship, even if it is for a little bit.

But no doubt in my mind, somehow the Celtics make this happen.

Whoah10115
02-21-2012, 02:08 PM
The only place that could take Garnett is Indiana, as they are way under the salary cap and maybe they want to be rid of Granger's contract and allow Paul George to play SF. Maybe even West could be included.



But this team is still not done. And the main issue is Doc Rivers.

MMM
02-21-2012, 03:12 PM
let ray/kg expire either let them retire or bring them in cheap
try to make a splash in FA that will crack open a window for a season or 2
then let the full on rebuilding take place when Pierce is retired/Rondo moves on

Fiasco
02-21-2012, 03:15 PM
Ray Allen to LAC for Bledsoe, Foye, Cook, picks.

PTstyle272
02-21-2012, 03:16 PM
The only place that could take Garnett is Indiana, as they are way under the salary cap and maybe they want to be rid of Granger's contract and allow Paul George to play SF. Maybe even West could be included.



But this team is still not done. And the main issue is Doc Rivers.

never would happen

KayHaven
02-21-2012, 04:06 PM
There's really nothing of value we can trade for. No one wants the pieces we have except for Rondo and the only thing I'm giving Rondo up for is an equally worthy big or another top-tier point guard.

Deal with NJ for DWill since he's probably not signing there as they're not getting Howard this offseason OR trading for him. Get DWill into a two or three year extension and maybe you have a good shot at getting Howard and continuing to legitimately contend for the next three years or so while Paul Pierce finishes out his storied Celtic career. The only guys I keep in a situation where Rondo gets dealt are Paul Pierce and Brandon Bass....everyone else is on the table.

I probably let KG's contract expire at year's end unless a contender throws some seriously good pieces at me in exchange for his expirer. Same for Ray Allen...and I'm not interested in the refuse that Knicks and Lakers fans just don't want anymore, either. Legit players, not scrubs.

Ray and Kg are both veterans who can put the ball in the basket and both are on 1 year contracts.....I'm not saying teams would give young superstars...but I don't think there's theres 1 outta of the remaining 15 playoff teams that wouldn't want one of those two players

Killbot
02-21-2012, 04:11 PM
Try and trade players for picks. 2012 is supposedly a deep draft.

Kevin_Garnett_5
02-21-2012, 07:38 PM
Pray that Dwight doesn't get traded and then make a run at him in the offseason.

Celtic_Pride
02-21-2012, 07:49 PM
End of a nice short era. Could have surely won more than 1 if not for injuries.

Anyway what I personally feel is Boston badly needs a Rebounding Center and a young athletic player(Batum?) to run fastbreak with Rondo. They need to focus on these positions from the upcoming Free Agent class as there is a ton of cap space and they are also having 2 1st round 2012(which is supposed to be deep) picks which is very good.

Pierce has 2-3 years, Allen has 1-2 years and lets hope Garnett has atleast 1 more year. Resign Garnett and Allen for cheap, build around Rondo and Jeff Green.

Pietrus-Dooling-Bradley-Wilcox-JJ-Bass is a decent bench.

Let's be honest, if we trade Rondo we surely cannot get equal value for him since he is a modest 10m/year. He might not be a superstar right now, but I am sure he has got the potential to be. Only contenders will be interested in either of the big three and realistically we cannot expect more than draft picks from them.

Anyway I believe in Ainge. Lets see what he does!

Droid101
02-21-2012, 07:54 PM
Garnett is signing for the minimum to play in Minnesota to end his career where he started. Book it.

Figlo
02-21-2012, 08:27 PM
Only 1 ring :facepalm

DStebb716
02-21-2012, 08:38 PM
Teams would kill to have Ray Allen still. Clutch as it comes and as good of a shooter as there is.

BlackWhiteGreen
02-21-2012, 08:45 PM
Only 1 ring :facepalm

Injuries :facepalm If Garnett never gets injured we could have had 3 (2010 KG would have been far better if it wasn't for the 2009 injury). Sad really, probably not for the rest of the league but certainly for the Boston fans.

BlackWhiteGreen
02-21-2012, 08:49 PM
Teams would kill to have Ray Allen still. Clutch as it comes and as good of a shooter as there is.

I don't see who would make us a worthwhile offer though. I don't see the Bulls offering Gibson + Brewer (for example).

Maybe Minny could offer a package around Beasley and Randolph? I'd probably listen if I were Ainge.

JGXEN
02-21-2012, 08:53 PM
I think Jeff will return to Boston. He wanted to prove his worth to Celtics fans and the organisation for trading for him. Trade Paul, KG, let Ray stay. Jeff starts at SF. Resign Ray for cheap and let him come off the bench. Try to sign Eric Gordon (but I'm concerned about him being injury prone). JJJ may start at PF. As for the center position.... Idk

LockoutOver11
02-21-2012, 09:02 PM
:( at the name of the thread title...

Whoah10115
02-21-2012, 09:06 PM
Someone else also sees KG going back to Minnesota...I would certainly like to see it.



Ray Allen wants to stay, but he's not utilized. I see him as being perfect on any Dwight Howard team.

WeGetRing2012
02-21-2012, 09:12 PM
Howard is going to LA

BankShot
02-21-2012, 09:17 PM
Let's be honest, if we trade Rondo we surely cannot get equal value for him since he is a modest 10m/year.

The fact that you won't get equal value for Rondo has nothing to do with his current salary of $10 million..... per the new CBA, in a straight-up trade the Celtics could bring back a player anywhere between $6.66 million and $15 million.

BankShot
02-21-2012, 09:18 PM
Garnett is signing for the minimum to play in Minnesota to end his career where he started. Book it.

Either that or Chicago, which is where he's originally from

Celtic_Pride
02-21-2012, 10:09 PM
I think Jeff will return to Boston. He wanted to prove his worth to Celtics fans and the organisation for trading for him.

True.

He was with the Celtics team after his operation. He wants to be here and more importantly Ainge will not let him go.



The fact that you won't get equal value for Rondo has nothing to do with his current salary of $10 million..... per the new CBA, in a straight-up trade the Celtics could bring back a player anywhere between $6.66 million and $15 million.

Thats good to know. But we will not be getting any superstars for Rondo. So I'd rather build around Rondo!

1st priority this summer should be getting a Center who will Rebound!

JGXEN
02-21-2012, 10:28 PM
True.

He was with the Celtics team after his operation. He wants to be here and more importantly Ainge will not let him go.




Thats good to know. But we will not be getting any superstars for Rondo. So I'd rather build around Rondo!

1st priority this summer should be getting a Center who will Rebound!
You can't build around Rondo.... He is someone you use to build around a superstar ala Scottie Pippen.

macpierce
02-21-2012, 10:40 PM
Injuries :facepalm If Garnett never gets injured we could have had 3 (2010 KG would have been far better if it wasn't for the 2009 injury). Sad really, probably not for the rest of the league but certainly for the Boston fans.
Really? if Andrew Bynum and Trevor Ariza weren't injured in 08, the lakers might have 3 in a row........argument goes both ways like your father

:roll:

Celtic_Pride
02-21-2012, 10:51 PM
You can't build around Rondo.... He is someone you use to build around a superstar ala Scottie Pippen.

Ok. Now which superstar will come to Boston w/o Celtics losing Rondo?

If Dwight comes, all is well. Else Celtics have no choice but to build around Rondo rather than blowing everything up.

PP34Deuce
02-21-2012, 11:26 PM
You can build around Rondo people! Similar to Jason Kidd with the nets teams. Give him 2 knock down shooters and a great athlete to run with with scrappy Big men( Chris Wilcox) and then we are in right direction.

jalbert009
02-21-2012, 11:50 PM
Let the season end with no major deals.

1. Let KG and Allen expire then resign them to 5M/2 Year Deals.
2. Sign Howard to a Max Deal.
3. Retain most of your current bench.
4. Resign J.Green
5. Get 1 more extra role player big in FA

Line Up:
Howard/Wilcox
Garnett/Bass
Pierce/Green/Pietrus
Allen/Daniels
Rondo/Dooling/Bradley

Dictator
02-21-2012, 11:52 PM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/395801_294872133900364_100001327408445_773093_5257 44375_n.jpg

Yanch856
02-21-2012, 11:56 PM
Yeah they're nearly done but what a run!

I think as Celts fan you can look back at the big 3 era and be happy.

As to what now?

Melo for PP straight up?

JGXEN
02-22-2012, 12:59 AM
Let the season end with no major deals.

1. Let KG and Allen expire then resign them to 5M/2 Year Deals.
2. Sign Howard to a Max Deal.
3. Retain most of your current bench.
4. Resign J.Green
5. Get 1 more extra role player big in FA

Line Up:
Howard/Wilcox
Garnett/Bass
Pierce/Green/Pietrus
Allen/Daniels
Rondo/Dooling/Bradley

lol we gotta be realistic fellas. Dwight or other superstar calibre FA wont go to Boston except via a trade.

linZoMourning
02-22-2012, 01:01 AM
Let the season end with no major deals.

1. Let KG and Allen expire then resign them to 5M/2 Year Deals.
2. Sign Howard to a Max Deal.
3. Retain most of your current bench.
4. Resign J.Green
5. Get 1 more extra role player big in FA

Line Up:
Howard/Wilcox
Garnett/Bass
Pierce/Green/Pietrus
Allen/Daniels
Rondo/Dooling/Bradley

howard isnt going to a team where there is no future

dbugz
02-22-2012, 01:51 AM
Cs fans, you guys still have hopes on J. Green? :eek:

overrated in OKC, Played terrible as a Celtic, Injury prone.

:facepalm :facepalm

EoJ
02-22-2012, 01:55 AM
wesely Mathews, Raymond Felton, Elliot williams, nolan smith, Gerald wallace for rondo and ray

JGXEN
02-22-2012, 01:57 AM
wesely Mathews, Raymond Felton, Elliot williams, nolan smith, Gerald wallace for rondo and ray
Paul + Ray for Crash + Batum

Tenchi Ryu
02-22-2012, 01:58 AM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/395801_294872133900364_100001327408445_773093_5257 44375_n.jpg
This can never be unseen
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

miller-time
02-22-2012, 02:05 AM
i don't understand how people have no player loyalty. who the hell would trade pierce? he is a celtic, in the same way bird and russell were celtics. imagine throwing those guys away. bird in a kings uniform or russell in a pistons uniform. it'd be gross.

no lol, i don't like it one bit.

Kews1
02-22-2012, 02:53 AM
i don't understand how people have no player loyalty. who the hell would trade pierce? he is a celtic, in the same way bird and russell were celtics. imagine throwing those guys away. bird in a kings uniform or russell in a pistons uniform. it'd be gross.

no lol, i don't like it one bit.

Agree, PP shouldn't be traded unless he wants to be. He should be given the opportunity to retire as a Celtic, Plus he has shown this year that he can still play and i doubt he would bring back equal value.

Haymaker
02-22-2012, 03:05 AM
Paul + Ray for Crash + Batum Great for C's, but why would Blazers do it? No sense.

Maneva
02-22-2012, 03:21 AM
I think they should keep Rondo. He's affordable, and he's a good young piece to build around. I also think he'll be compatible with any other star in the league, so you don't have to worry about chemistry problems down the road.

See if you can get solid young players or draft picks for Ray and Garnett, otherwise re-sign them in the offseason for low figures, then use the ample cap space to bring whatever young pieces they can. They'd be great players off the bench for a year or two.

It would be great for Pierce to retire a Celtic, and I'm sure he will. But, taking loyalty out of the picture, he's probably the best piece they have to trade, and I think they'd have to do it now before he gets older. They could probably get some great young players in exchange.

It's a tricky situation for Ainge. Lots of routes he could take. I'm still really curious to see how they do in the playoffs. Remembering how they made it to the Finals as the 4th seed in 2010, it wouldn't surprise me if they turn it on and do some damage in the playoffs. Don't think they give it nearly their all in the regular season and they might be the biggest victim of the condensed schedule cause of their age.

Faberg
02-22-2012, 03:35 AM
Do nothing between now and the March 15th deadline and tank. They have two draft picks this year. Their own and the Clippers pick (which is looking like a late round pick).

The rebuilding process has already started when they traded Perkins.

BlackWhiteGreen
02-22-2012, 06:10 AM
Really? if Andrew Bynum and Trevor Ariza weren't injured in 08, the lakers might have 3 in a row........argument goes both ways like your father

:roll:

Didn't say that was false, and the insult was necessary. Daddy issues yourself? :oldlol:

Jasper
02-22-2012, 06:54 PM
I see them keeping the big three through the playoff run.

The truth may by out this summer and retire , but ....

The big ticket may by out this summer and retire , but ....

The Ray ray may by outthis summer and retire , but ....

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I think all three will play next 2012/13 season.
Either for another team or the Celtic's but strickly in backup roles

*Ray ray could play for several contenders in a 18-22 minute capacity.
(Think rifleman and now you see what I am talking about)

* Truth stays a Celtic or retires... nothing else to say

* Big Ticket could go to the Lakers , Portland , Minny , Bulls or Spurs.
Off the bench 15-20 guy with serious bench and locker room cheerleader.
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Boston must keep Rondo

He is the building block along with Green if he comes back.
They will need to look for a 5.

So now I will pose another rackish comment of what if :
I have stated before Howard could go to the Spurs
Why not go to the Celtic's :confusedshrug:
For that matter if D-Will goes to the Celtic's / Rondo could become trade
bait to acquire Gay or any other SF that has serious lift.

Those two super stars coming to Boston - you can guess Boston would find the role players sooner than later to support a championship contending roster.

icewill36
02-22-2012, 06:58 PM
i think a lot of teams will want ray allens services next year. hes not a great athlete anymore, but that quick release and sweet stroke arent going anywhere.

OneBadUsername
02-22-2012, 07:30 PM
Anyway what I personally feel is Boston badly needs a Rebounding Center and a young athletic player(Batum?) to run fastbreak with Rondo.

Prime Suns 2.0?

OneBadUsername
02-22-2012, 07:41 PM
Also does anybody think the Nuggets would do a trade revolving around Rondo and Ty Lawson?

AMISTILLILL
02-22-2012, 07:46 PM
Also does anybody think the Nuggets would do a trade revolving around Rondo and Ty Lawson?

Completely pointless.