All-Time Starting team + 6th Man

[La Frescobaldi]

Who ya got?

Here's mine.

Center - Wilt Chamberlain
Forward - Larry Bird
Forward - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Guard - Michael Jordan
Guard - Jerry West

6th Man Magic Johnson

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People always look at me like I'm crazy when I got Kareem at the forward but I always thought from the first NBA game I saw Lew Alcindor play that he was a forward playing out of position - they put him at C because he was so tall.
But I don't mind having twin towers & I don't mind having Kareem's 18 foot jumper which is commonly forgot but which was real money. I also don't mind the fact that my forward can not only defend but dominate all centers with great ease. I also don't mind Chamberlain being able to destroy all in the paint and dish to a guy who can crash from high post.
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I've struggled with West vs. Magic for years. But the answer comes in the fact that Magic can play 4 positions with great ease - so effectively he plays full minutes. And I get to keep the two greatest outside threats in basketball history. Logo & Airness together destroy all perimeters in the galaxy.

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Now the guy who is entering into the argument to me is LeBron James.

But what are you gonna do with him?
* Replace Logo? That destroys my team concept and LBJ can never shoot like Logo (nor can he shoot like Bird for that matter, nor Kareem. And he ain't getting Jordan's spot.)
{I would be more likely to reach for Kobe Bryant to replace West but it will depend entirely on KB mental attitude on that day. He "goes to sleep" too much and shot-jacks too much to get that starting job.}

* Replace Larry Bird? I can't replace Bird's all-round greatness with LBJ's all-round greatness - due to Bird's willingness to go to the mats.

He might be able to argue with Magic though as the greatest swingman ever.

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But that is only my ideas for an All-Time team - of course biased by my timeframe of watching Chamberlain & Frazier Willis Reed and Jerry Lucas... but also I believe it is accurate to say that will be the most perfect starting team ever.....

How would you set it up? Who's on your All-time Team?

[ralph_i_el]

C- Wilt
F-Tim Duncan
F-LeBron James
SG- Jordan
PG- John Stockton

6th- Allen Iverson

It was between Duncan and Bird for the PF spot

edit: this may not be the best team, but It's the one I want to watch

[arifgokcen]

Mine
C-Hakeem
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Lockdown nobody moves:D

[La Frescobaldi]

Mine
C-Hakeem
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Lockdown nobody moves:D

no kiddin, that is serious D team right there!!

But you still got another pick - who ya got first off the bench?

[WillC]

C - Wilt Chamberlain
PF - Bill Russell
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

6th Man - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

I believe these are the six best basketball players of all-time. Not only that, but their skills complement each other perfectly: Bird and Magic's selfless team-play, Jordan's killer instinct, Russell's defense and intangibles, Wilt's rebounding (I'd actually prefer the old Lakers Wilt for this team, rather than the young Sixers/Warriors Wilt) and Kareem's unstoppable offense.

[stallionaire]

C Shaquille O'Neal
F Tim Duncan
F LeBron James
G Michael Jordan
G Steve Nash


6th - Larry Bird

[WillC]

C Shaquille O'Neal
F Tim Duncan
F LeBron James
G Michael Jordan
G Steve Nash


6th - Larry Bird

Steve Nash is perhaps my favourite player in the NBA.... but just try to imagine him defending Magic Johnson. That wouldn't be pretty.

[swi7ch]

Mine
C-Hakeem
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Lockdown nobody moves:D

not bad

[arifgokcen]

no kiddin, that is serious D team right there!!

But you still got another pick - who ya got first off the bench?

Hmm thats a really tough question.Another all time defender that can cover every position on the floor
Dennis Rodman
.I have enough offense in my starting line-up.
Man wow i am loving my all-time team.No pick and roll action against this team.Every player can guard at least 3 positions and rodman off the bench.Wow:roll: :roll: :roll:

[arifgokcen]

I think defense and cohesion is much more important than offense.Because you are gonna have enough offense as it is.Everyone is entitled to their opinion however i just wanted point out some facts.
So probably not a good idea to put nash in your lineup because of his awful defense or Bird for his defense and clashing personalities with jordan.Again even though shaq maybe the most dominant player in history he lacks defensive mentality to be included in this team.So i would pick the best defensive-offensive player combinations and look for cohesion among them.
Anyway thats just me

[Tmuston Beltics]

Why the lack of Russell in the lists?

[pauk]

Mine
C-Hakeem
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Lockdown nobody moves:D

This

[DStebb716]

C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Tim Duncan
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

6th Man: Manu Ginobli (decided it'd be fair to go with the best 6th man ever instead of just another star player that would never sit the bench).

[Tmuston Beltics]

C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Tim Duncan
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

6th Man: Manu Ginobli (decided it'd be fair to go with the best 6th man ever instead of just another star player that would never sit the bench).

Lol was reading this and thought of a picture of Manu and his baldness and red it'd be hair.. For some reason :confusedshrug:

[La Frescobaldi]

Why the lack of Russell in the lists?

I never saw Russell in his glory days of like 1959.

But I saw 3 of these games, and many more by both players.

{I copied this from another thread}

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1967 Eastern Division Finals

Game 1.
Russell 20 pts 15 rebs 4 assists
Chamberlain 24 pts 32 rebs 13 assists + 12 blocks

(the blocks were reported by Sports Illustrated.)

That's a Chamberlain quadruple double.

Game 2.

Russell 14 pts 24 rebs 5 asts
Chamberlain 15 pts 29 rebs 5 asts

Game 3
Russell 10 pts 29 rebs 2 asts
Chamberlain 20 pts 41 rebs 9 asts

Chamberlain's 41 rebounds against Russell is the NBA playoff record.

Game 4
Russell 9 pts 28 rebs 5 asts
Chamberlain 20 pts 22 rebs 10 asts

Chamberlain with the triple double against Russell.

Game 5
Russell 4 pts 21 rebs 7 asts
Chamberlain 29 pts 36 rebs 13 asts

Chamberlain with the triple double against Russell.

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Nobody knew about triple double, or quadruple double back then. There was no such thing. Those terms were invented many years later. But that game 5 brought on a debate that has raged for 40 years.

One of my friends marked his scorecard to show Chamberlain with 16 blocks, but another friend had it with only 15. They still argue about it.

But even without knowing what a quadruple double was (and maybe Harvey Pollack knows the answer), it was plain to everyone that Chamberlain had demolished Russell in every possible way.

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Playoff lines:
Russell 11 ppg 23 rpg 4 apg
Chamberlain 21 ppg 32 rpg 10 apg


Wilt Chamberlain averaged a triple double against Bill Russell over the entire series, and had (at least according to Sports Illustrated & some basketball maniacs in the bleachers) 2 quadruple doubles.

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Russell's teams were stacked, that's why they won. People can say what they want, but that's just fact. After watching Chamberlain thoroughly dismantle Russell in every possible way - and not just in that 67 series, either - he isn't ever going on any of my all-time teams, so sorry.

[Scholar]

C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Tim Duncan
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

6th Man - Karl Malone


Everyone in this line-up would be tall (or at least the right size) for their positions.

As for Karl Malone, he'd win a title with this line-up, so eh... :confusedshrug: Just added him for the hell of it.

[JustinJDW]

C: Bill Russell
PF: Tim Duncan
SF: Larry Bird
SG: Michael Jordan
PG: John Stockton

6th: Lebron James

This team really can't be touched.

[arifgokcen]

C: Bill Russell
PF: Tim Duncan
SF: Larry Bird
SG: Michael Jordan
PG: John Stockton

6th: Lebron James

This team really can't be touched.

My team would probably destroy that team.

[Scholar]

C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Tim Duncan
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

6th Man - Karl Malone


Everyone in this line-up would be tall (or at least the right size) for their positions.

As for Karl Malone, he'd win a title with this line-up, so eh... :confusedshrug: Just added him for the hell of it.


Actually, on second thought, maybe LeBron would be a better 6th man, simply because he could play all 5 positions without a problem really.

[pauk]

would be interesting to see:

C - Yao Ming (7'6")
PF - Shaq (7'2")
SF - Nowitzki (7'0")
SG - Durant (6'11")
PG - Lebron (6'9" - 260+ lbs)

vs

C - Hayes (6'6")
PF - Barkley (6'5")
SF - Baylor (6'5")
SG - Iverson (6'0")
PG - Mugsy (5'3")


:oldlol:

gona try this on NBA 2K!

[pauk]

or how about All-Muscle team vs All-Skinny team:

C - Shaq
PF - Malone
SF - B.Wallace
SG - Lebron
PG - Magic
6th man: Barkley or Rodman

vs

C - Manute Bol
PF - Nowitzki
SF - Durant
SG - Reggie Miller
PG - Iverson
6th man: Tayshuan Prince or Rip Hamilton

[PTB Fan]

C:Shaquille O'Neal
PF:Bill Russell
SF:Larry Bird
SG:Michael Jordan
PG:Earvin Magic Johnson

6th Man: Tim Duncan/Oscar Robertson

[k0kakw0rld]

C Kareem Abdul Jabbar
F Karl Malone
F Charles Barkley
G Michael Jordan
G John Stockton

6th man: LeBron James

[Jotaro Durant]

kareem abdul jabbar
kevin garnett
kevin durant
michael jordan
chris paul

i dont need 6 man:rockon:

[Unstop]

Hakeem Olajuwon
Dirk Nowitzki
Larry Bird
Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson

6th man: barkley

Magic is feeding the dream under the basket or just feeding dirk and larry for 3s. or they just spread the floor and mj is doing his job attacking the rim against 3-4 defenders lolll

lack of defense a little bit, but if ur opponents cant do anything against ur offense its pretty much done. especially with those shooters. if they dont hit the 3 , just wait for a dunk from mj or hakeem getting a rebound.^^

barkley for more toughness under the rim, if 3s doesnt work out^^,also he had a good ballhandling and makes his team better for fast breaks...

[kennethgriffin]

it amaizes me when people pick a ball dominant pg to team with ball dominant isolation players




G Kobe
G Jordan
F Bird
F Duncan
C Wilt

6th man - Shaq


or if you want it built around a pg and complimentary superstars that dont need the ball in their hand

G Magic
G Miller
F Pippen
F Rodman
C Russell

6th man - Stockton

it would be a waste to mix the 2 types of teams together

[arifgokcen]

it amaizes me when people pick a ball dominant pg to team with ball dominant isolation players




G Kobe
G Jordan
F Bird
F Duncan
C Wilt

6th man - Shaq


or if you want it built around a pg and complimentary superstars that dont need the ball in their hand

G Magic
G Miller
F Pippen
F Rodman
C Russell

6th man - Stockton

it would be a waste to mix the 2 types of teams together
This is why I think my team is the best. So far three other people agreed with me.
Hakeem
Garnett
Lebron
Jordan
Payton
Defensively nightmare literally this is the best defensive lineup to me
Offensively let Phil run his triangle offense with Hakeem and garnett inside.

[kennethgriffin]

This is why I think my team is the best. So far three other people agreed with me.
Hakeem
Garnett
Lebron
Jordan
Payton
Defensively nightmare literally this is the best defensive lineup to me
Offensively let Phil run his triangle offense with Hakeem and garnett inside.

lebron doesnt understand the concept of sharing when he plays with other superstars

hes almost averaging 30 on a team with wade and bosh... and a bunch of great complimentary players

i just think birds a better team player and better suited for the sf position on a stacked roster

[97 bulls]

To many of us are picking our favorite players as opposed to a team that's would have great chemistry. I mean, you can pick any players you want, why would you pick guys that are liabilities like bird, magic, russell, and rodman?

PG Pippen
SG Jordan
SF James
PF Duncan
C Olajuwan

6th Garnett

That tean can shoot, pass, play man defense, help defense, rebound, post up, has size, athleticism, speed, intangibles, can switch everything, and are versitle. And all can play multiple positions.

[BoNafidde]

Shaq
Duncan
Bird
MJ
Magic

6th- Lebron

[sick_brah07]

bill laimbeer
horace grant
sprewell
redd
earl manigault

6th man -world b free bitch

[WillC]

To many of us are picking our favorite players as opposed to a team that's would have great chemistry. I mean, you can pick any players you want, why would you pick guys that are liabilities like bird, magic, russell, and rodman?

Yeah, Bill Russell - what a huge liability he was on those 11 championship teams.

[oolalaa]

Whilst Russell is the greatest centre of all time, I can't pick him for my all time team. Sure, he would be great defensively in any era - he would be measured at close to 6"11 in todays NBA and those arms of his....those insanely long arms (I've read that he has a 7"5 wingspan) would make Lebron/Wade/Rose etc think twice before driving to the hoop. If he bulked up a little, I have no doubt he would be alternating DPOY awards with Howard.

However, his offense would be an issue. He was undoubtedly a good offensive player in his own era - only Wilt and Bellamy were better scorers from the centre spot, and he was the best passing big man for most of his career as well. But....he was clunky. That's probably the best word to describe his offense. From what I've seen, he didn't appear to have any go to 'moves' to rely on in the post (maybe he had a baby hook shot. Thats the only thing resembling a 'move' that I've seen). He seemed to just chuck up shots in the general vicinity of the hoop. More often than not, they didn't go in.

So, I'll go with....

C - '77 Karee.......actually no.......'94 Hakee......hmmmmmm. Hang on......ummmmmmm.........shit. Can someone help me out? :confusedshrug:

PF - '03 Tim Duncan. A no-brainer. The evolutionary Russell. Great leader and teammate, great defender, great passer out of the post. He wouldn't care if he only shot the ball 5 times a game - all he wants to do is win.

SF - '86 Larry Bird. I briefly entertained having Pippen or Hondo here (for their defence) but I need a shooter to spread the floor. And besides, Larry was the greatest rebounding SF of all time, the greatest play making forward of all time and arguably the greatest game 7 player of all time. Those things make up for his suspect man defence :oldlol:

SG - '91 Michael Jordan. He was at his all round best in the '91 playoffs, and the finals especially - he was just about clinging on to his 88/89 athleticism and was passing/playmaking like an elite point guard. Combine that with an insatiable desire/desparation to win his 1st ring and you have something truly scary (go watch game 2 of the '91 finals again. Right now. Go! When he was playing like that, he was unbeatable). He would still be the go to scorer and crunch time assassin, but he wouldn't be playing with Grant, Cartwright and Paxson on this team. We need balance (which is why I shied away from '93 MJ).

PG - '87 Magic Johnson. Another no-brainer. The NBAs greatest ever play maker at the peak of his powers.

EDIT: Actually, I'm not sure that having 2 defensive liabilities in 1 team is a good idea. You can get away with one.....but two? Hmmmmmmmmm. Sorry Magic, you're gunna have to make way for '69 West. That eliminates any speedy or athletic point guards getting a free pass into the lane and gives me an extra shooter. And besides, the ball should be in MJs hands most of the time anyway.


6th man - '09 Lebron. The most gifted all round player the league has ever seen (along with Wilt). He's probably the perfect utliity player - he can play and excel in 4 positions. He also wouldn't be playing crunch time so there would be very little pressure on him. He could focus on doing what he does best - facilitating and just being an all round monster.


Coach - Phil Jackson. The only choice! Don't ask me which version of him would be the best because I have no clue :oldlol: I guess coaching is all about experience so I'll go with an older Phil - how about '09? :D

[28renyoy]

Kareem
Duncan
Bird
Jordan
Magic

KG for defensive versatility

Although I would seriously question Jordan's ability to work in an offense where he wasn't ball dominant 50% of the time

[oolalaa]

Who ya got?

Here's mine.

Center - Wilt Chamberlain
Forward - Larry Bird
Forward - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Guard - Michael Jordan
Guard - Jerry West

6th Man Magic Johnson

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People always look at me like I'm crazy when I got Kareem at the forward but I always thought from the first NBA game I saw Lew Alcindor play that he was a forward playing out of position - they put him at C because he was so tall.
But I don't mind having twin towers & I don't mind having Kareem's 18 foot jumper which is commonly forgot but which was real money. I also don't mind the fact that my forward can not only defend but dominate all centers with great ease. I also don't mind Chamberlain being able to destroy all in the paint and dish to a guy who can crash from high post.
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I've struggled with West vs. Magic for years. But the answer comes in the fact that Magic can play 4 positions with great ease - so effectively he plays full minutes. And I get to keep the two greatest outside threats in basketball history. Logo & Airness together destroy all perimeters in the galaxy.

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Now the guy who is entering into the argument to me is LeBron James.

But what are you gonna do with him?
* Replace Logo? That destroys my team concept and LBJ can never shoot like Logo (nor can he shoot like Bird for that matter, nor Kareem. And he ain't getting Jordan's spot.)
{I would be more likely to reach for Kobe Bryant to replace West but it will depend entirely on KB mental attitude on that day. He "goes to sleep" too much and shot-jacks too much to get that starting job.}

* Replace Larry Bird? I can't replace Bird's all-round greatness with LBJ's all-round greatness - due to Bird's willingness to go to the mats.

He might be able to argue with Magic though as the greatest swingman ever.

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But that is only my ideas for an All-Time team - of course biased by my timeframe of watching Chamberlain & Frazier Willis Reed and Jerry Lucas... but also I believe it is accurate to say that will be the most perfect starting team ever.....

How would you set it up? Who's on your All-time Team?

That's a good team (mine would best yours though :oldlol: ) but what versions of your picks would you choose? e.g '62 or '67 Wilt? '65 or '69 West? etc

[DaHeezy]

Wilt
Duncan
Bird
Kobe
Jordan

Sixth- Barkley

[blablabla]

russell
duncan
bird
kobe
isiah

6th man pistol

[97 bulls]

Whilst Russell is the greatest centre of all time, I can't pick him for my all time team. Sure, he would be great defensively in any era - he would be measured at close to 6"11 in todays NBA and those arms of his....those insanely long arms (I've read that he had a 7"5 wingspan) would make Lebron/Wade/Rose etc think twice before driving to the hoop. If he bulked up a little, I have no doubt he would be alternating DPOY awards with Howard.

However, his offense would be an issue. He was undoubtedly a good offensive player in his own era - only Wilt and Bellamy were better scorers from the centre spot, and he was the best passing big man for most of his career as well. But....he was clunky. That's probably the best word to describe his offense. From what I've seen, he didn't appear to have any go to 'moves' to rely on in the post (maybe he had a baby hook shot. Thats the only thing resembling a 'move' that I've seen). He seemed to just chuck up shots in the general vicinity of the hoop. More often than not, they didn't go in.

So, I'll go with....

C - '77 Karee.......actually no.......'94 Hakee......hmmmmmm. Hang on......ummmmmmm.........shit. Can someone help me out? :confusedshrug:

PF - '03 Tim Duncan. A no-brainer. The evolutionary Russell. Great leader and teammate, great defender, great passer out of the post. He wouldn't care if he only shot the ball 5 times a game - all he wants to do is win.

SF - '86 Larry Bird. I briefly entertained having Pippen or Hondo here (for their defence) but I need a shooter to spread the floor. And besides, Larry was the greatest rebounding SF of all time, the greatest play making forward of all time and arguably the greatest game 7 player of all time. Those things make up for his suspect man defence :oldlol:

SG - '91 Michael Jordan. He was at his all round best in the '91 playoffs, and the finals especially - he was just about clinging on to his 88/89 athleticism and was passing/playmaking like an elite point guard. Combine that with an insatiable desire/desparation to win his 1st ring and you have something truly scary (go watch game 2 of the '91 finals again. Right now. Go! When he was playing like that, he was unbeatable). He would still be the go to scorer and crunch time assassin, but he wouldn't be playing with Grant, Cartwright and Paxson on this team. We need balance (which is why I shied away from '93 MJ).

PG - '87 Magic Johnson. Another no-brainer. The NBAs greatest ever play maker at the peak of his powers.


6th man - '09 Lebron. The most gifted all round player the league has ever seen (along with Wilt). He's probably the perfect utliity player - he can play and excel in 4 positions. He also wouldn't be playing crunch time so there would be very little pressure on him. He could focus on doing what he does best - facilitating and just being an all round monster.


Coach - Phil Jackson. The only choice! Don't ask me which version of him would be the best because I have no clue :oldlol: I guess coaching is all about experience so I'll go with an older Phil - how about '09? :D

I flirted with the idea of including a players specific year. But as someeone stated, players don't change that much year to year. The situations and circumstances do.

I've met bill russell about 15 years ago. He's nowhere near 6'11. I know people kinda shrink as they get old, but russell looked to be about 6'8.

[Horatio33]

Magic
Jordan
Bird
Duncan
Hakeem

6th man Pippen, swiss army knife.

[97 bulls]

Yeah, Bill Russell - what a huge liability he was on those 11 championship teams.
My point was that were picking the best possible starting 5 and one 6th man. The talent level would be so high that I just could see myself picking guys that are clearly weak or deficient at something as important as offense and defense. Then I gotta factor in that chemisrty is a must and egos must be checked at the door. Everyone knows jordan would be the go to guy. Pippen would be my ball handler and main perimeter defender. James athleticism and ability to fill any void would be huge, while duncan, and olajuwan and garnett are great midrange shooters and can controll the paint definsively.

I feel I could expose magic and birds bad man defense or russell inept offense.

[gengiskhan]

Magic - PG
Jordan - SG
Hakeem - C
Barkley - PF
Bird - SF

[97 bulls]

Magic - PG
Jordan - SG
Hakeem - C
Barkley - PF
Bird - SF
Magic bird and barkley would be definsive liabilities.

[arifgokcen]

lebron doesnt understand the concept of sharing when he plays with other superstars

hes almost averaging 30 on a team with wade and bosh... and a bunch of great complimentary players

i just think birds a better team player and better suited for the sf position on a stacked roster

Wow really.He is averaging %55 for a wing player even Jordan didnt come close to that.BTW he is only averaging 18 shots per game.So actually you are blaming him for averaging that kind of numbers on just 18 shots per game.Wow i understand you hate the guy but come on.What do you want him to average.Actually i want him to take at least 24-25 shots because of his efficiency.This is how you win the ball game.Learn the game please

Bird in his second year averaged 18.3 shots same number of shots lebron averaging right now and only averaged 21.2ppg for the season.Come on son.
You are sinking like titanic right now.

He is actually much better defender than bird.Dont forget bird and jordan personalities would not mesh.However Lebron and Jordan would.

[arifgokcen]

My point was that were picking the best possible starting 5 and one 6th man. The talent level would be so high that I just could see myself picking guys that are clearly weak or deficient at something as important as offense and defense. Then I gotta factor in that chemisrty is a must and egos must be checked at the door. Everyone knows jordan would be the go to guy. Pippen would be my ball handler and main perimeter defender. James athleticism and ability to fill any void would be huge, while duncan, and olajuwan and garnett are great midrange shooters and can controll the paint definsively.

I feel I could expose magic and birds bad man defense or russell inept offense.
exactly defense and chemistry is much more important.You are gonna have offense no matter what.This is why neither magic nor birds deserves a spot in this team.Dont get me wrong they were good defenders but far from great.Lebron Jordan and even Pippen would blow by them every time.

[lilblingy]

Mine
C-Hakeem
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Lockdown nobody moves:D

This, except i would have Pippen at SF and have LeBron as 6th man.

[oolalaa]

I flirted with the idea of including a players specific year. But as someeone stated, players don't change that much year to year. The situations and circumstances do.

I've met bill russell about 15 years ago. He's nowhere near 6'11. I know people kinda shrink as they get old, but russell looked to be about 6'8.

Yes i know. He would be listed at 6"10.5 /6"11 in todays NBA because they measure players in their shoes (i'm pretty sure they still do anyway). He is/was a legit 6"9 barefoot.

[97 bulls]

exactly defense and chemistry is much more important.You are gonna have offense no matter what.This is why neither magic nor birds deserves a spot in this team.Dont get me wrong they were good defenders but far from great.Lebron Jordan and even Pippen would blow by them every time.
Exactly. I mean, let's face it, when your playing with great players, I mean the greatest players, you don't want to be weak anywhere. For instance, I love stockton, but he's getting posted up if he playing teams whose pg is payton (3 inches taller) or magic (8 inches taller), or pippen (whose 7 inches taller).

Then I ve seen some guys have jordan, kobe and wilt in the lineup, there's only one ball.

[arifgokcen]

This, except i would have Pippen at SF and have LeBron as 6th man.

Yeah could be.However i dont think Pippen outside shot is too suspect even though lebron is not that good he is considerably better than pippen and their defense is actually pretty similar they can lock down anybody when focused and their help defense is just as good however lebron is much better offensively so i gave the nod to Lebron and bring Rodman off the bench because in his prime he could guard anybody from centers to pgs.Anyway you cant go wrong with either of them.

[arifgokcen]

Then I ve seen some guys have jordan, kobe and wilt in the lineup, there's only one ball.
Should throw in 2 other balls:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[97 bulls]

Should throw in 2 other balls:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lol true. Im actually amazed at how many people ar picking pippen

[barnett114]

Mine

C: Wilt Chamberlain
PF: Larry Bird
SF: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
PG: Gary Payton

6th: Charles Barkley

[arifgokcen]

Lol true. Im actually amazed at how many people ar picking pippen

Indeed i still think lebron is much better offensive player and their defense is not that far off.BTW,I dont think anyone remembers who payton really is.Because i don't think as one on one defender,he literally shut down Jordan.Yes he literally shut down Jordan.I have watched jordan my whole life i dont remember any player beside payton who frustrated him.Payton should definitely be in that line-up

Anyway thats just me

[oolalaa]

I flirted with the idea of including a players specific year. But as someeone stated, players don't change that much year to year. The situations and circumstances do.

I've met bill russell about 15 years ago. He's nowhere near 6'11. I know people kinda shrink as they get old, but russell looked to be about 6'8.

Alright, but just out of interest, if you had to choose, which versions of your picks would you select?

[arifgokcen]

Mine

C: Wilt Chamberlain
PF: Larry Bird
SF: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
PG: Gary Payton

6th: Charles Barkley

Larry Bird at PF would get eaten alive by Malone,Duncan,Garnett et.

[Bird]

C - Wilt Chamberlain
PF - Bill Russell
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

6th Man - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

I believe these are the six best basketball players of all-time. Not only that, but their skills complement each other perfectly: Bird and Magic's selfless team-play, Jordan's killer instinct, Russell's defense and intangibles, Wilt's rebounding (I'd actually prefer the old Lakers Wilt for this team, rather than the young Sixers/Warriors Wilt) and Kareem's unstoppable offense.

Not to be unoriginal, but this would be my 6 as well.

With no parameters set, grab the best of the best, bar none.

[oolalaa]

To many of us are picking our favorite players as opposed to a team that's would have great chemistry. I mean, you can pick any players you want, why would you pick guys that are liabilities like bird, magic, russell, and rodman?

PG Pippen
SG Jordan
SF James
PF Duncan
C Olajuwan

6th Garnett

That tean can shoot, pass, play man defense, help defense, rebound, post up, has size, athleticism, speed, intangibles, can switch everything, and are versitle. And all can play multiple positions.

The one thing you don't have is outside shooting. You have 3 wing players that will primarily be looking to drive to the hoop. That could be a problem if your opposition decides to clog the lane.

[bizil]

GOAT wise-

C- Kareem
PF- Duncan
SF- Bird
SG- MJ
PG- Magic

Sixth Man- Wilt

If I could pick my own team:

C- Hakeem
PF- KG
SF- Bird
SG- MJ
PG- Magic

Sixth Man- Lebron

I like the idea of Bron coming of the bench as sixth man for versatility reasons. He can play and defend four positions. This team is so damn versatile! And the defensive liabilities that Magic and Bird had (it never stopped them from being top 5-6 GOAT so I think it's overrated to be concerned about that to a degree) would be covered up by four of the premier and most versatile defenders of all time.

[LockoutOver11]

hmmm, id like to see

Kidd, Ray Allen, Bird, Rodman, Wilt

Sixth man...Mullin

[CavaliersFTW]

Should throw in 2 other balls:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

1967 Wilt. Almost averaged a triple double in the playoffs because of assists.

Led the league in assists. :pimp:

I'd worry about the other two unless you picked 1962 Wilt. In which case. :facepalm :lol

[colorz]

C-Hakeem Olajuwan
PF-Kevin Garnett
SF-Scottie Pippen
SG-Michael Jordan
PG-Gary Payton

6th man-LeBron James

[RidonKs]

half the teams in here would have severe spacing problems, gotta mix it up with shooters and primary offensive threats, no need to have a first option slasher at every position. payton, mj, lebron? ehhh

lol @ the bulls homer calling bird, magic, and russell "liabilities" in any regard

gimme jordan and stockton in the back court, totally unselfish pg who can fill any role you need from him, among the headiest to ever play the game. and, uhh, mike. defensively, it's not a jordan/payton combo but the passing lanes would be made very dangerous.

at the sf slot... gotta be bird i guess. nobody else pops out. he can shoot and lol @ his being a liability in any regard by any stretch of the imagination. just because he isn't godly at the defensive end of the floor, doesn't mean he couldn't man up when he had to. plus he's got back up, in the form of....

my pf has to be kg. another guy who prefers to be selfless, creates havoc on defense with his length, can defend the rim, and most importantly, has that knock down 18 footer to go with his face up game if we need him to score for us.... timmy was close but it was perimeter shooting that gave kg the edge. i also debated going with dirk here but garnett's too good defensively and on the boards to pass up.

and he'd be twinned with... tough call between shaq and dream but i'm going with versatility and personality here. less clashing egos with hakeem on the floor and he's still got crazy defensive presence.

6th man goes to magic, just because of his ability to play multiple positions since we only have one guy off the bench. also another unselfish perfectly compatible personality.




John Stockton
Michael Jordan
Larry Bird
Kevin Garnett
Hakeem Olajuwon

Magic Johnson



this is among the best passing squads you could possibly put together. ball movement and off ball movement will be a blur. defensively, man for man, you could probably argue that it's weaker than if i had, say, payton or pippen replacing stock or bird, but you've got to prioritize. with KG and Hakeem defending the rim, you could have roger mason defending the point and not suffer too much. and neither stockton or bird equate to roger mason. they're more than good enough defensively with those bigs.

offense would flat out flow, and with Magic in the game, it'd turn run and gun in a second. everybody can pass, but more importantly, everybody's willing to pass. everybody is also a threat from just about anywhere.

and with the game on the line, no question whose hands to put the ball into. if you've got MJ, you don't need anybody else who can take over... though if you have to include somebody else with that mentality, Bird is your man.

lastly, chemistry wise, nobody is disruptive on this team. they all fit together like clockwork. personalities and games mesh beautifully.

i win (in my humble opinion of course)

[Round Mound]

C: Wilt
PF: Barkley
SF: Bird
SG: Jordan
PG: Magic

6thman: Hakeem

[jlauber]

There is no other player that could absolutely dominate in EVERY area (alright, he was not a good FT shooter, BUT, he DREW a TON of fouls), than Chamberlain. A mid-60's Wilt was the greatest all-around center of all-time, and yes, it is still not even close.

In his 65-66 season, he not only averaged 33.5 ppg, 24.6 rpg, 5.2 apg, and shot .540 (in a league that shot .433), he was CRUSHING his opposing centers. He BLEW AWAY Thurmond, Russell, and Bellamy in H2H's, and I mean BLEW them AWAY. Incidently find me another player who LED the NBA in scoring, rebounding, and FG% at the SAME TIME in the SAME SEASON (only Chamberlain achieved that feat, and he did it THREE times.)

And in his 66-67 season, he "only" averaged 24.1 ppg, but he had several 40+ point games, with an NBA high of 58 (on 26-34 shooting.) Once again, when he was asked to score, he even pounded Thurmond (In an early season encounter, he had only scored six points in the first half. His coach asked him to take it to Nate in the 2nd half, and he responded with 24 second half points.) He also shot a mind-numbing .683 from the field (in a league that shot .441.) He was way ahead of the next guy in rebounding at 24.2 rpg. And, he handed out 7.8 apg. And those that saw him play at around that time would claim he was on par with Russell defensively.

And in the playoffs, he MURDERED both Russell and Thurmond, too. Not only that, but overall, in that post-season, he averaged 21.7 ppg, 29.1 rpg, 9.2 apg, and shot .579 (while holding Dierking, Russell, and Thurmond to .427, .358, and .343 shooting.)

In his 67-68 season, he had one of the greatest Defensive Win Share seasons in NBA history (7th greatest all-time, and only Russell had higher seasons.) And while he "only averaged 24.3 ppg) he hung games of 52, 53, 53, and 68 on the league. He ran away with the rebounding title (by nearly FIVE per game.) He shot .595 (in a league that shot .446.) AND, he LED the NBA in ASSISTS. BTW, find me another player who LED the NBA in rebounding, FG%, and assists at the SAME TIME in the SAME SEASON.

And here was an interesting stat-line from one of Chamberlain's games in that 67-68 season. He scored 53 points, on 24-29 shooting, with 32 rebounds, 14 assists, and 7 blocks. In another game that season, he put up a 68 point, 37 rebound game. In yet another game that year, he put up the ONLY 20-20-20 game in NBA history (22 points, 25 rebounds, and 21 assists.)


In any case, he could do it ALL. Incidently, Rick Barry, who won the scoring title in that '67 season, at 35.6 ppg, "thanked" Wilt for letting him win the scoring crown. Virtually everyone in the league knew that had Wilt wanted to, he would have easily won yet another scoring title. And at his peak, he just overwhelmed his opposing centers in rebounding and FG%.

BTW, in his 65-66, 66-67, and 67-68 seasons, Wilt led his team's to the BEST record in the league (55-25, 68-13, and 62-20.)

Here again, how many other all-time greats were asked to change their games as much as Wilt (and yet he excelled in ANY role)? The FACT was, Wilt could BLEND in with ANY roster, and assume ANY role. So, if you needed your center to completely shut down the lane, and another high-scoring center; or absolutely own the glass; or hand out 10+ assists; or pour in a 50-60 point game, and on phenomenal effciency; or ALL of them at the SAME TIME...name me a better center to hand that task to, than a mid-60's Chamberlain.

[97 bulls]

The one thing you don't have is outside shooting. You have 3 wing players that will primarily be looking to drive to the hoop. That could be a problem if your opposition decides to clog the lane.
Your right about the lack of outside shooting, but I think they're good enough. There's always a trade-off. Most great shooters aren't great at penetrating or defense. I think james and pippens jumpshots are decent enough to be respected.

[La Frescobaldi]

That's a good team (mine would best yours though :oldlol: ) but what versions of your picks would you choose? e.g '62 or '67 Wilt? '65 or '69 West? etc

Wilt Chamberlain 66-68
Jerry West 68-70
Kareem 71-74
Bird 84-87
Jordan 89-91

Magic ........... 1981-84

Sorry but Timmy Dunkin is not stopping Kareem. Stopping / slowing down O'Neil is not the same thing as trying to battle the Kareem Abdul Jabbar that was facing Nate Thurmond, Wilt Chamberlain, Dave Cowens and Bob Lanier.

And nobody is stopping Chamberlain & nor are they getting by him (in fact you know who is reminding me a little of Chamberlain on defense this season in terms of being able to time his blocks is Serge)....

those other guys you got will have to either shadow box, or else put up a mirror on the court i dunno

[dyna]

C- Hakeem
PF- Garnett
SF- Bird
SG- Jordan
PG- Magic

6th Man- Lebron

[97 bulls]

half the teams in here would have severe spacing problems, gotta mix it up with shooters and primary offensive threats, no need to have a first option slasher at every position. payton, mj, lebron? ehhh

lol @ the bulls homer calling bird, magic, and russell "liabilities" in any regard

gimme jordan and stockton in the back court, totally unselfish pg who can fill any role you need from him, among the headiest to ever play the game. and, uhh, mike. defensively, it's not a jordan/payton combo but the passing lanes would be made very dangerous.

at the sf slot... gotta be bird i guess. nobody else pops out. he can shoot and lol @ his being a liability in any regard by any stretch of the imagination. just because he isn't godly at the defensive end of the floor, doesn't mean he couldn't man up when he had to. plus he's got back up, in the form of....

my pf has to be kg. another guy who prefers to be selfless, creates havoc on defense with his length, can defend the rim, and most importantly, has that knock down 18 footer to go with his face up game if we need him to score for us.... timmy was close but it was perimeter shooting that gave kg the edge. i also debated going with dirk here but garnett's too good defensively and on the boards to pass up.

and he'd be twinned with... tough call between shaq and dream but i'm going with versatility and personality here. less clashing egos with hakeem on the floor and he's still got crazy defensive presence.

6th man goes to magic, just because of his ability to play multiple positions since we only have one guy off the bench. also another unselfish perfectly compatible personality.




John Stockton
Michael Jordan
Larry Bird
Kevin Garnett
Hakeem Olajuwon

Magic Johnson



this is among the best passing squads you could possibly put together. ball movement and off ball movement will be a blur. defensively, man for man, you could probably argue that it's weaker than if i had, say, payton or pippen replacing stock or bird, but you've got to prioritize. with KG and Hakeem defending the rim, you could have roger mason defending the point and not suffer too much. and neither stockton or bird equate to roger mason. they're more than good enough defensively with those bigs.

offense would flat out flow, and with Magic in the game, it'd turn run and gun in a second. everybody can pass, but more importantly, everybody's willing to pass. everybody is also a threat from just about anywhere.

and with the game on the line, no question whose hands to put the ball into. if you've got MJ, you don't need anybody else who can take over... though if you have to include somebody else with that mentality, Bird is your man.

lastly, chemistry wise, nobody is disruptive on this team. they all fit together like clockwork. personalities and games mesh beautifully.

i win (in my humble opinion of course)
Theres no way your squad could beat mine. Magic and bird would have a hard time staying in front of their man, and birds shooting would be negated cuz with jordan, pippen, and james, they would just switch everything. And don't forget the players switching are three of the best defenders ever. And how are they gonna run? Jordan can't be everywhere. And with stockton and bird, you lose athleticism.

As far as offense, magic and bird would get exposed. They were fortunate in that they were able to be hidden by playing the weaker guard (in magics case) or forward (in birds case) there would be no such luxery going against my team. And who's stockton gonna defend? He'd be giving away abpout 6-8 inches to my guards. I see a post opportunity. And while my team may not be as great passing as yours, they're still very good and willing passers.

My team would also have the rebounding and size advantage

[jlauber]

Wilt Chamberlain 66-68
Jerry West 68-70
Kareem 71-74
Bird 84-87
Jordan 89-91

Magic ........... 1981-84

Sorry but Timmy Dunkin is not stopping Kareem. Stopping / slowing down O'Neil is not the same thing as trying to battle the Kareem Abdul Jabbar that was facing Nate Thurmond, Wilt Chamberlain, Dave Cowens and Bob Lanier.

And nobody is stopping Chamberlain & nor are they getting by him (in fact you know who is reminding me a little of Chamberlain on defense this season in terms of being able to time his blocks is Serge)....

those other guys you got will have to either shadow box, or else put up a mirror on the court i dunno

100% agreed. IMHO, you could use Magic from '81 (even late '80) thru '88, but I agree that those early years were much better than even he was given credit for. Of course, he proved how great he was in the '80 and '82 Finals in those years.

And I definitely agree with you about Kareem. He was at his most dominant point in his career in those '71 thru '74 seasons. In fact, he DECLINED after that. I get a kick out of those that somehow try to convince us that he was at his peak in his 76-77 season, based SOLELY on his playoff run. That post-season run involved a TOTAL of ELEVEN games, seven of which were against the Warriors. I either saw or listened to every one of his Blazer games, and in only ONE was he better player than Walton. Walton made every key play down the stretch in the other three games, and dominated those games in virtually every area. His outlet passing, his key rebounding, and his clutch shooting and DEFENSE against Kareem won that series.

Of course, Kareem was a great player. No one whould argue that. Overall, he was the best player in the decade of the 70's, but after his dominating second season, when he shredded the NBA, I think he leveled off, perhaps believing all of the hype,...that he would lead the Bucks to a "Celtic-type" Dynasty. There was no question that, when motivated, he was unstoppable. But almost anyone that was around in the 70's would agree with his legendary role in "Airplane", in which he was criticized for lack of effort.

Once again, if anyone really needed any evidence to support the above, just compare his 71-72 and 75-76 seasons. In his 71-72 season, he played 44.2 mpg, on a team that went 63-19 and had a +11.1 differential. He averaged 34.8 ppg, 16.6 rpg, and shot .574 that season. Then, after being traded to the Lakers before the start of the 75-76 season, and playing with an average, at best roster, he could only go 41.2 mpg, and while he won his only rebounding title in that season (barely edging 6-9 Cowens), he could only average 27.7 ppg, and on a .529 FG%, which was among his worst of the decade. Here again, how come he could seemingly score at will in his 71-72 season, as well as his 70-71 season, when he played 40.1 mpg, and averaged 31.7 ppg, 16.0 rpg, and shot .577...which was his career high differential against the league of .128), and doing so on teams that went 63-19 and 66-16, and that had differentials of +11.1 and +12.2 ppg...and yet, on a relatively poor team, that desperately needed him to step up, he shrunk.

And, once again, Bob McAdoo had no problem scoring in that 75-76 season, averaging 31.1 ppg (as well as 34.5 ppg the year before, and in a league that only averaged 102.6 ppg.)

And, while some here put that 76-77 on some kind of mythical pedestal, based on an 11 game run in the playoffs, his 53-29 team barely edged a near .500 Warrior team, and was SWEPT by a 49-33 Blazer team with a Walton at his absolute best.

The rest of the '70's, Kareem played well, but was nowhere near as dominant as he had been in the early 70's. He played with stacked rosters in both 77-78 and 78-79, and not only did those teams under-perform, with records of 45-37 and 47-35...they were routed by Sonic's teams that were marginally better (47-35 and 52-30), and with ONE borderline HOF player (Dennis Johnson.) How does a team with Jamaal Wilkes, who won a title with Rick Barry and a bunch of no-names in '75, Lou Hudson, Norm Nixon, and even an Adrian Dantley (who was averaging 26.5 ppg when LA acquired him), and Kareem not even make a DENT in the post-season, and in two straight seasons?

I have long maintained that had Magic not arrived in the 79-80 (and IMMEDIATELY made LA a 60-22 champion), Kareem would have retired sometime in the mid-80's, as a relative disappointment.

[La Frescobaldi]

one of the guys asked about this very subject last night on a different thread, so, I was hoping y'all had some ideas on the question of who gets the starting job on the All-Time team....

[ThaRegul8r]

I have a different approach to this than most people. I don't have an all-time team, I have all-time teams. Each built around a Top 10 player with complementary players and a particular style of play. That way everyone can play the way they're actually accustomed to playing, and no one gets left off because everyone has his own team. I can pick a Top 10 GOAT player and he has his own custom-built team. That way it eliminates any "he had crappy teammates" talk, and puts everyone on equal footing.

[TheFan]

Shaquille O

[LemonMan]

Mine
C-Hakeem
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Lockdown nobody moves:D

:oldlol: holding teams to the scoring average of your worst offensive option

[La Frescobaldi]

:oldlol: holding teams to the scoring average of your worst offensive option

yeah and not only that but he later on chose Dennis Rodman as his 6th man talk about some defensive prowess when that team walks on the floor !

[bdreason]

Assuming the point is to win the game.


PG: Stockton
SG: Jordan
SF: Bird
PF: KG
C: Hakeem

6th man: LeBron James


Stockton isn't the best PG of all-time, but I want him running a team of superstars over Magic or Isiah. Jordan is a no-brainer. Bird is a perfect fit with superstar players because of his insane bball IQ. KG and Hakeem are there for defense, and their ability to score from inside and outside the paint. I don't see anyone in the history of the game beating this team in a 7 game series. Too much offense, too much defense, and too much bball IQ.

[brownmamba00]

pg: Magic
sg: Kobe
sf: Pippen
pf: Duncan
c: Hakeem

6th man: Reggie Miller

[MJ(Mean John)]

Dream
Kevin Garnett
Pippen
MJ
JKidd


6 man- kobe Bryant. Prime kobe dropping 81 points off the f.ucken bench son.

[La Frescobaldi]

[QUOTE=TheFan]Shaquille O

[Round Mound]

People Here are Underrating Barkley a Bit.

The Dude Shot Like Shaq Inside the 3-Point Line.

Most Think He Was Just a Coast to Coast and Rebound Player. The Dude Had Great Handles, Could Pass The Ball Like a Guard and If You Don`t Double Team Him in the Post Your Dead Meat.

[fsvr54]

Jordan, Magic and Lebron can't be playing with ball dominant guys.

[kNicKz]

C - Kareem Abdul Jabbar
PF - Charles Barkley
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

6 Man: Wilt Chamberlain

unbeatable squad

[wakencdukest]

Kareem
Duncan
Bird
Jordan
Magic

LeBron at 6th man because of his versatility

[LebronairJAMES]

pg-Lebron
sg-MJ
sf-Pippen
pf-Bird
c-Hakeem

6th-Duncan

[La Frescobaldi]

People Here are Underrating Barkley a Bit.

The Dude Shot Like Shaq Inside the 3-Point Line.

Most Think He Was Just a Coast to Coast and Rebound Player. The Dude Had Great Handles, Could Pass The Ball Like a Guard and If You Don`t Double Team Him in the Post Your Dead Meat.

Pretty sure I'd select Sir Charles myself if I didn't think Kareem would be perfection playing the high post with Wilt Chamberlain on the low block.

Really almost comes down to height tells when choosing because Chuck just for example on the Dream Team was unearthly

That bench has got to have Kobe and LeBron, Sir C, just sure as your world

But a lot of guys are invisible on here. Where's Cowens? Havlicek? Frazier? AD and Big E or Connie FlyHawk? Lot of 80s greats have not appeared so far.... weirdest of all, have really not seen a ton of Kobe actually which is a bizarro fact for this board

[ThaRegul8r]

People Here are Underrating Barkley a Bit.

The Dude Shot Like Shaq Inside the 3-Point Line.

Most Think He Was Just a Coast to Coast and Rebound Player. The Dude Had Great Handles, Could Pass The Ball Like a Guard and If You Don`t Double Team Him in the Post Your Dead Meat.

I have Barkley on one of my teams. I like being able to get out on the break with him in transition and also post up in the halfcourt as well.

[Round Mound]

Pretty sure I'd select Sir Charles myself if I didn't think Kareem would be perfection playing the high post with Wilt Chamberlain on the low block.

Really almost comes down to height tells when choosing because Chuck just for example on the Dream Team was unearthly

That bench has got to have Kobe and LeBron, Sir C, just sure as your world

But a lot of guys are invisible on here. Where's Cowens? Havlicek? Frazier? AD and Big E or Connie FlyHawk? Lot of 80s greats have not appeared so far.... weirdest of all, have really not seen a ton of Kobe actually which is a bizarro fact for this board

Barkley is the Best Mix of Mid Range and Post Game Ever (Dantley Close By)

CAREER SEASON: 21.6 PPG at 58.13% Two-Point FG% on 12.9 Two-Point FGAs Taken Only

CAREER PLAY-OFFS: 22.5 PPG at 55.13% Two-Point FG% on 14.5 Two-Point FGAs Taken Only

Agree Havlicek is a Top 6-10 SF Ever (Bird, Lebron, Dr J, Elgin, Barry). Also Elgin Baylor Gets Underrated By Todays Fans the Dude Was The Best SF of the 60s.

The Reason Why I Would Have Hakeem in the Bench Was Because I Could Play Both Larry and Charles at SF From Time to Time Depending On Who You Play Against and They Both Have Perimeter and Half Court Offensive Games.

So I`d Put Hakeem at CF (Like Duncan Was But a Much Better Player IMO) to Compliment Larry and Charles in the Post. So You Can`t Double Barkley, Hakeem or Bird Or they Will Make The Pass Inside or the Perimeter.

Imagine a Team With Magic as PG, Jordan as SG, Wilt at Center (Best Rebounder and Paint Defender Ever, He Was Like Mark Eaton With David Robinson Like Athletic Ability) Hakeem at CF and Bird and Barkley at SF Combinations

You Got Defense in Hakeem and Wilt in the Paint and MJ in the Perimeter and You Have Offense in The Paint and Mid Range with Barkley, Hakeem, Wilt and Some Times Bird. You Also have a Great Passing and Creating Team With All of Them Together.

No Body Can Beat That Team Ever. Nobody!

[ThaRegul8r]

But a lot of guys are invisible on here. Where's Cowens?

I've got Cowens on my Magic fast-break team.




Frazier?

I've been thinking about him with Duncan, though I haven't finalized the roster yet.

[La Frescobaldi]

I've got Cowens on my Magic fast-break team.





I've been thinking about him with Duncan, though I haven't finalized the roster yet.

Dave was brutal in transition, perfect with Earvin Magic on fast break!! I saw your earlier post about choosing more of role players for the rest of the team, one could almost think about guys like Danny Ainge or Toni Kukoc for long range bombs, to keep a half court defense running from pillar to post. I'm real interested in this new kid out of Russia, Alexey Shved... who knows how rookies turn out, but he has the makings of true quality. 10-3-4 stat line is no world beater but considering he's been off the bench most of the year, getting about 27mpg and is starting on a Rick Adelman team... he may turn out pretty good, defense looks strong so far.

I've often wondered where Frazier would rate if Clyde had been on more of a contender in his later years, that Knicks team with Spencer Haywood never seemed to pan out.... but that 70s NBA was so balanced out, with not a single back-to-back champion in the entire decade.... Frazier teamed up with Duncan would be one of the smoothest combos ever, I'd like to see who you line up beside them