3 Team Trade Rumor. LA/Min/Orl

[Chad44]

The rumor says Lakers receive Beasly, Barrea and Dwight Howard. Orlando would get Andrew Bynum and Derrick Williams. Minnesota would get Gasol.

http://www.elnuevodia.com/serumoraqueloslakersestandetrasdebarea-1198812.html

From this Puerto Rico newspaper.

:confusedshrug:

[LBJMVP]

The rumor says Lakers receive Beasly, Barrea and Dwight Howard. Orlando would get Andrew Bynum and Derrick Williams. Minnesota would get Gasol.

http://www.elnuevodia.com/serumoraqueloslakersestandetrasdebarea-1198812.html

From this Puerto Rico newspaper.

:confusedshrug:


that actually doesnt sound to bad to me.

[miles berg]

A trade that actually makes sense for all three teams, wow.

[D-Rose]

Looks like a pretty good trade for all involved..Sota gets a legit big man to couple Love. ORL gets two young franchise cornerstones. Lakers get a superstar, young talent, and PG!

Now, how legit that story may be is another story..

[Reverend Hoops]

Pekovic has been putting up better numbers than Gasol lately.

[RazorBaLade]

Some weird ass ****ing source again..

im tired of this

stop getting my hopes up

[AMISTILLILL]

Everybody knows those Puerto Rican newspapers have their fingers on the pulse of legitimate NBA trade rumors.

[Flagrant 2]

Everybody knows those Puerto Rican newspapers have their fingers on the pulse of legitimate NBA trade rumors.
They got Barea going to Minny right, if that's worth anything.

[Human Error]

If I were the Wolves I would try to straightup trade Love and Pekovic for Dwight Howard. Why help the Lakers?

[Bob Cousy]

whats with these non-USA sources ?

[Bob Cousy]

If I were the Wolves I would try to straightup trade Love and Pekovic for Dwight Howard. Why help the Lakers?
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

dwight wouldn't re-sign with them for one.

[LBJMVP]

take it as you will, but this trade sounds great for all involed.

williams and bynum will get more oppurtinity in orlando and seems like a good tradeoff for dwight.

minnesota gains a nice bigman to team up with love and could make them an upset type team in the playoffs

lakers get dwight, a pg, and beasley which will make them contenders again.

[RazorBaLade]

take it as you will, but this trade sounds great for all involed.

williams and bynum will get more oppurtinity in orlando and seems like a good tradeoff for dwight.

minnesota gains a nice bigman to team up with love and could make them an upset type team in the playoffs

lakers get dwight, a pg, and beasley which will make them contenders again.

kobe will probably end up banging bareas wife. gasol for beasley and barea is not getting his full worth..... those are 2 guys who arent even getting minutes on their team. I dunno man..... Bynum for howard helps the team but not much...... a good pg >>>>>>>

[trig]

ohh a trade rumor that actually makes sense for all teams involved

[poido123]

I still scratch my head as to why Minny would be making a trade for Gasol, when they have a very good centre in Pekovic? I still dont believe the Wolves are asking for gasol, I believe Lakers are asking for beasley, but minny is not asking for gasol.

I also dont think Lakers really want to trade gasol unless they are making a steal. Therefore, I conclude this trade to be 99% improbable.

Beasley will go to the lakers.

[dunksby]

It does not make sense for Minnesota at all, they lose Barrea, Beasely and Williams for a bigman they dont need.
Pek's upside>> Gasol's

[KB2009Champ]

No thanks as a Laker fan.

Who the hell is going to play PF?

Beasley?
Rasheed?
Murphy?

We are still a sh$tty team with this trade

[LBJMVP]

No thanks as a Laker fan.

Who the hell is going to play PF?

Beasley?
Rasheed?
Murphy?

We are still a sh$tty team with this trade


you have kobe bryant and dwight howard and you have the nerve to say you have a shitty team.

you lakers fans have been way to spoiled over the years.

[longtime lurker]

It does not make sense for Minnesota at all, they lose Barrea, Beasely and Williams for a bigman they dont need.
Pek's upside>> Gasol's

Why not keep both? You can never have too many big men. Gasol can slide to PF with Pekovic and Center with Love. If the Timberwolves are serious about making a playoff push then this move makes a lot of sense. If I told you before the beginning of the season the Timberwolves could get Gasol for Beasley, Williams and Barea people here would pitch a ****ing fit

[dunksby]

Why not keep both? You can never have too many big men. Gasol can slide to PF with Pekovic and Center with Love. If the Timberwolves are serious about making a playoff push then this move makes a lot of sense. If I told you before the beginning of the season the Timberwolves could get Gasol for Beasley, Williams and Barea people here would pitch a ****ing fit
Well Gasol coming off the bench might not be the best idea, Pau is not the kinda player you sit on the bench since you want to take advantage of his skill set as much as you can.

[Bob Cousy]

No thanks as a Laker fan.

Who the hell is going to play PF?

Beasley?
Rasheed?
Murphy?

We are still a sh$tty team with this trade:facepalm Bynum and Howard would be the front court ... how the hell did Howard slip your mind in this rumor ?

[AirTupac]

:facepalm Bynum and Howard would be the front court ... how the hell did Howard slip your mind in this rumor ?

Your dumb as **** kiddin but bynum is going to Orlando in this trade

[RazorBaLade]

you have kobe bryant and dwight howard and you have the nerve to say you have a shitty team.

you lakers fans have been way to spoiled over the years.

compared to certain other teams that get 3 superstars ya 2 is pretty shitty

[longtime lurker]

Well Gasol coming off the bench might not be the best idea, Pau is not the kinda player you sit on the bench since you want to take advantage of his skill set as much as you can.

LMAO Gasol starts. Pekovic is nice but let's be real here it's Gasol. Pekovic will still get his minutes sharing the Center position with Gasol. If Minnesota is serious about making a playoff push this is a great trade for them

[Bob Cousy]

Your dumb as **** kiddin but bynum is going to Orlando in this trade
:facepalm

you're right lol.

:oldlol:

Bynum goes to ORL.

[dunksby]

LMAO Gasol starts. Pekovic is nice but let's be real here it's Gasol. Pekovic will still get his minutes sharing the Center position with Gasol. If Minnesota is serious about making a playoff push this is a great trade for them
Actually Minny would not want to have Love and Gasol both starting, Love/Pek is a much better complementary duo than Love/Gasol.

[RazorBaLade]

Actually Minny would not want to have Love and Gasol both starting, Love/Pek is a much better complementary duo than Love/Gasol.

dude what? Pau is a better passer, shooter and overall 2x better

[ZenMaster]

I still scratch my head as to why Minny would be making a trade for Gasol, when they have a very good centre in Pekovic? I still dont believe the Wolves are asking for gasol, I believe Lakers are asking for beasley, but minny is not asking for gasol.

I also dont think Lakers really want to trade gasol unless they are making a steal. Therefore, I conclude this trade to be 99% improbable.

Beasley will go to the lakers.

If they want to be elite they need 3 big guys. Pekovic-Love-Gasol is a great rotation and they complement each other. Catch and finish, post ups, mid-range, 3pt shooting, passing and rebounding. Offensively these 3 guys combined would give anything you could ask for offensively. On defense it's a different story but they'd be a very good rebounding front court overall and have to roll with something.

This trade would give Minnesota a great shot at making the playoffs for the next 3 years. Plus Gasol and Rubio on the same NBA team would be awesome.

[talkingconch]

apparently the source is legit? not sure about the rumor though

taken from somewhere


According to the biggest and most respected News paper in Puerto Rico, El Nuevo Dia. JJ Barrea as you all know is Puerto Rican and everything that has to do with him this news paper fallows. They were the first to say he was signing with the Timberwolves. The rumor says Lakers receive Beasly, Barrea and Dwight Howard. Orlando would get Andrew Bynum and Derrick Williams.

[poido123]

LMAO Gasol starts. Pekovic is nice but let's be real here it's Gasol. Pekovic will still get his minutes sharing the Center position with Gasol. If Minnesota is serious about making a playoff push this is a great trade for them

Just no. Minnesota can make playoffs with what they have, and trading for gasol would mean they would be trading for him to make them a title contender which they will not be. Too weak at the wing, and younger players havent developed enough. They should send off beasley, and wait til next year, when they could trade or sign for a decent wing player. Its obvious that Pekovic plays better with big minutes. Bringing gasol in will hapmper his progress and perhaps make him disgruntled too after earning that starting position.

[RazorBaLade]

No thanks as a Laker fan.

Who the hell is going to play PF?

Beasley?
Rasheed?
Murphy?

We are still a sh$tty team with this trade

Why not start Mcbob and have a team that can score on the fastbreak for once? Look at this:

Barea
Kobe
Beasley
Mcroberts
Howard

That team can run n gun.... Hella athletic starting 5. Then we have Blake Barnes Murphy for coming out and missing 3 pointers. Idk, its a better team than what we have but its still not a favorite over OKC

[RazorBaLade]

apparently the source is legit? not sure about the rumor though

taken from somewhere

Don't know why this would be leaked this early tho, why would ORL even be talking today? They obv won't do anything until after the AS game

[LBJMVP]

compared to certain other teams that get 3 superstars ya 2 is pretty shitty


oh god im so sorry that your team has the best center and shooting guard in the league... to bad you cant add the leagues best point guard to your lineup. are lakers fans ever happy about anything:facepalm

[dunksby]

dude what? Pau is a better passer, shooter and overall 2x better
Yes he is but Pek is a tough bigman who can protect the paint draw fouls and consistently make FTs. He is a good rebounder and does not hesitate to get physical, I would venture to say he is the strongest bigman in the league. So if you want someone to complement Love that's Pek not Pau.

[RazorBaLade]

oh god im so sorry that your team has the best center and shooting guard in the league... to bad you cant add the leagues best point guard to your lineup. are lakers fans ever happy about anything:facepalm

Lol what? You don't need a best PG, but if I wanted to say my team was more stacked than the heat or OKC I'd need 3 guys that can be superstars.

Beasley is not that guy. 3 superstars> 2.

[dunksby]

Lol what? You don't need a best PG, but if I wanted to say my team was more stacked than the heat or OKC I'd need 3 guys that can be superstars.

Beasley is not that guy. 3 superstars> 2.
No team has 3 superstars in the league wtf are you talking about?

[LBJMVP]

Lol what? You don't need a best PG, but if I wanted to say my team was more stacked than the heat or OKC I'd need 3 guys that can be superstars.

Beasley is not that guy. 3 superstars> 2.


but the original post i quoted complained about how the lakers would still be shitty.

you have the best center and shooting guard in the world if the trade goes through and some how you team is still shitty. ask bobcats fans about the definition of shitty teams.

[ZenMaster]

Just no. Minnesota can make playoffs with what they have, and trading for gasol would mean they would be trading for him to make them a title contender which they will not be. Too weak at the wing, and younger players havent developed enough. They should send off beasley, and wait til next year, when they could trade or sign for a decent wing player. Its obvious that Pekovic plays better with big minutes. Bringing gasol in will hapmper his progress and perhaps make him disgruntled too after earning that starting position.

They'd be a pretty damn good team with him though. There are 96 minutes for the two big man spots, 3 guys cover that with 32 mins a game. It's great for their stamina and longetivity plus they'd be winning more. If playing 32 minutes on a playoff team isn't enough for you then you don't deserve to have good teammates.

[RazorBaLade]

No team has 3 superstars in the league wtf are you talking about?

Lebron wade bosh.. and okc might have 3 as well depending on how much you like harden.

Note I don't mean superstar reputation I just mean superstar skill wise... top 10 or top 15 players in the league.

[KOBEtherealKing]

No team has 3 superstars in the league wtf are you talking about?
Lol almost every elite team has a big 3 who are allstars aka superstars

[RazorBaLade]

but the original post i quoted complained about how the lakers would still be shitty.

you have the best center and shooting guard in the world if the trade goes through and some how you team is still shitty. ask bobcats fans about the definition of shitty teams.

of course.. its all relative. If the heat would beat them 4-0 or 4-1 thats a good team beating a shitty team but obviously they would do so much better than the bobcats or w/e..

[Rekindled]

lol, lakers get raped. and minny only have to give up derrick williams(bench guy , bad first year so far), beasley(fa after this year, bench guy) and Barea(3rd string pg) for Gasol?? wtf

[Eric Cartman]

oh god im so sorry that your team has the best center and shooting guard in the league... to bad you cant add the leagues best point guard to your lineup. are lakers fans ever happy about anything:facepalm


Actually we could'v had CP3 as well. But if the trade that Nuevo Dia or whatever is reporting ill be happy.

[dunksby]

Lebron wade bosh.. and okc might have 3 as well depending on how much you like harden.

Note I don't mean superstar reputation I just mean superstar skill wise... top 10 or top 15 players in the league.

Lol almost every elite team has a big 3 who are allstars aka superstars
Maybe I have a stricter definition of Superstar. Players who are Superstars IMO:
Lebron
Durant
Kobe
Wade

PS: LMFAO @ Harden being a superstar :roll:

[RazorBaLade]

Maybe I have a stricter definition of Superstar. Players who are Superstars IMO:
Lebron
Durant
Kobe
Wade

PS: LMFAO @ Harden being a superstar :roll:

thats fair.. just different meanings...

I think harden could be a high level all star on a diff team... but i just look at the stats in this case so idk his problems

[talkingconch]

Actually we could'v had CP3 as well. But if the trade that Nuevo Dia or whatever is reporting ill be happy.

If we can get Ramon Sessions.

Sessions
Kobe
Beasley
Mcroberts or ???
Howard


But if we don't address the PG I don't know if giving up both Gasol and Bynum is worth it. sure we get a Howard & Kobe tandem and younger as well.

[poido123]

They'd be a pretty damn good team with him though. There are 96 minutes for the two big man spots, 3 guys cover that with 32 mins a game. It's great for their stamina and longetivity plus they'd be winning more. If playing 32 minutes on a playoff team isn't enough for you then you don't deserve to have good teammates.

What message are you sending to Pekovic though? We think you have been playing great, but we have decided to insert Gasol into this team and have him start. Just not a good message to send to someone who has just played his backside off to get a starting gig.

Id be pissed if i was pekovic and that happened. Id be like, hey new kid, this is my house I earnt it! Now you wanna come along and take away what I just got? F**k that, Pekovic has been playing like one of the best centres in the NBA, IMO the forward position is not where they need to upgrade, its the SG position, and even SF, since derrick is more of a PF.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

If we can get Ramon Sessions.

Sessions
Kobe
Beasley
Mcroberts or ???
Howard


But if we don't address the PG I don't know if giving up both Gasol and Bynum is worth it. sure we get a Howard & Kobe tandem and younger as well.
OP says Lakers receive JJ Beara..

[talkingconch]

OP says Lakers receive JJ Beara..
with respect to Barea, hes not gonna get it done

[MK2V1GP]

Beasley, Barea and Williams and only get an aging Gasol in return?

:facepalm


People are going overboard with the whole "Lets put Gasol on the same team as Rubio since they both speak Spanish" thing

[talkingconch]

Beasley, Barea and Williams and only get an aging Gasol in return?

:facepalm


People are going overboard with the whole "Lets put Gasol on the same team as Rubio since they both speak Spanish" thing
there also good friends

[KOBEtherealKing]

If we can get Ramon Sessions.

Sessions
Kobe
Beasley
Mcroberts or ???
Howard


But if we don't address the PG I don't know if giving up both Gasol and Bynum is worth it. sure we get a Howard & Kobe tandem and younger as well.

Yup lakers should Make it a 4 team deal. Imo id rather have sessions because he's younger, more athletic, quicker and produces as a starter.

Lakers would still have that tpe to upgrade at pf or backup sg. Honestly when mcroberts was starting earlier for bynum he was giving energy, rebounding and getting a couple blocks.

[Burgz]

lol at puerto ricans praying Barea goes to LA

fabricate a trade that sends Bynum AND Gasol out of town for Dwight, Beasley and JJ?

not happening

[bdreason]

Not a bad trade.


:oldlol: @ the people talking about Pekovic starting over Gasol. Get a grip.

[longtime lurker]

Not a bad trade.


:oldlol: @ the people talking about Pekovic starting over Gasol. Get a grip.

I know right it's ****ing Pekovic! I call it the Jeremy Lin effect. Minnesota essentially gives up 2 players that aren't in the rotation and a back up for an all star caliber big man. For some reason Pau Gasol is a God when he's on the Lakers but when he's getting traded all of a sudden he's trash.

[Fiasco]

Gasol can't play center long term, why does Minny do this?

[dunksby]

Gasol can't play center long term, why does Minny do this?
So Rubio and Gasol and can hang out and have beer and siestas.

[ballashotcalla]

Bad trade for the Lakers. They want to win now, yes.

But they need 1 piece to rebuild from. Bynum is the guy if Deron or Howard won't come to LA.

[JohnnyWall]

Pek's upside>> Gasol's

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1310483412100.jpg

[LakersReign]

Just gotta love it how, the haters are so quick to pronounce the eulogy on the Lakers. But the minute there's a rumor of a signing/trade, they're the first ones to run in to topics like this, screaming like banshees, like they're scared of something.:lol

[bluechox2]

i dont see why minny does it, except for putting a Spaniard with rubio
their front line is already good

[B-Easy8]

Absolutely no way the Wolves do this. We give up the number 2 pick, a talented young scorer and our backup PG who we just signed for old man Gasol. We have Pek and Love already why would we need Gasol?

[#1SportsFan86]

Just gotta love it how, the haters are so quick to pronounce the eulogy on the Lakers. But the minute there's a rumor of a signing/trade, they're the first ones to run in to topics like this, screaming like banshees, like they're scared of something.:lol

Scared of what?...as long as Kobe keeps taking most of the shots the Lakers don't scare anybody.

[stallionaire]

Won't happen. Minnesota is giving up way too much for an old player like Gasol. We don't need him. We NEED a SG.

[LakersReign]

Scared of what?...as long as Kobe keeps taking most of the shots the Lakers don't scare anybody.

Yeah....that's right. Ignore the ENTIRE paragraph, and ONLY respond to PART OF A SENTENCE. Which wasn't even the point of my post to begin with. Learn how to read:facepalm

[mrhoopfan]

The wolves need 2 guard with size that can shoot the rock.........Wonder what it would take to get Rudy Fernandez?? however, i'm not sold yet that martell webster can't be that guy

[RazorBaLade]

Scared of what?...as long as Kobe keeps taking most of the shots the Lakers don't scare anybody.

theyve won twice with kobe taking most of the shots......... and got to the finals 3/4 yrs doing it. you are delusional if u think it doesnt scare anybody... it scares everybody... there shouldnt be a team in the league that would purposely lose games to matchup with the lakers in the playoffs... not even one

[kurple]

Looks like a pretty good trade for all involved..Sota gets a legit big man to couple Love. ORL gets two young franchise cornerstones. Lakers get a superstar, young talent, and PG!

Now, how legit that story may be is another story..
ole gunnar solskj

[DRose1899]

I'm understand why people can said this is bad deal for the wolves, but saying Pekovic better than Pau :facepalm :facepalm

Zeus Thunderous, no one in right mind can say that :banghead: :banghead:

And can't they sharing their minute or what? a la the lakers when still had odom.

God sake, Love - Pek - Pau is the best front court rotation in the world, minny can be contender with this move n somehow can add 1-2 decent wing.

[Fiasco]

Scared of what?...as long as Kobe keeps taking most of the shots the Lakers don't scare anybody.

http://i.imgur.com/vzM95.gif

[DRose1899]

Seriously minny fan.. please remember what that make the lakers go to 3 consecutive finals. BIG portion of its.

You can have the "mini" version of that, n its damn good for you.

The deal probably would not happen, but saying you don't want it just very silly. :facepalm

[Yung D-Will]

That deal makes no sense for the Timberwolves.


Lucky for them Rick Adelman said that he'll have a hand in all decisions made for their franchise so no way they'd pull off something like this :roll:

Props to all the Minny fans for saying it before I had too .


And remember


He reiterated he likes these young players who won 17 games last season and foresees only some roster "pruning" and "tweaking" in the free-agent and trade markets.

He said new coach Rick Adelman needs "a long period of time" to learn about and develop this collection of young athletes.

-David Kahn

He's not gonna trade a guy like Derrick WIlliams before he gets a full traning camp to try and learn how to play the 3 effectively from Adelman it makes little to no sense. And Adelman stated like 2 days ago that Pek earned his minutes and his spot and is only getting better.
So it makes no sense to take away minutes from the guy who's been dominating the past month and has amazing chemistry for another big and it still doesn't solve their only real problem which is the at the SG.


Laker fans really seem to belive that every front office is just there to cater to their needs.

[DRose1899]

Laker fans really seem to belive that every front office is just there to cater to their needs.the feck?

its very "modest" n kind from the lakers if they really offer this.. smh some people.

and again, stop this act like pekovic not gonna get more than 10 minute again if minny get pau.

Odom still can averaging 15/9 n 30 minute-ish coming from the bench, not any far than whatever Pek averaging since solidifying his starter spot.

Seriously once again Love - Pau - Pek rotation? its just crazy... Its great core for coming out from the west, like Lakers used to have, and now team like Minny can have even better version of its? Not too mention all 3 of them can play pick n roll to the death with Rubio, its just nighmare matchup for any team.

Just f*ck off from the league n relegate yourself to D-League if you don't want practically the same core that used by one of the most dominant team that go to 3 consecutive final (Lakers, pau - bynum - odom)

[DRose1899]

Denver should offer Andre Miller + Affalo + Mozgov / birdman for Pau if minny really think they're too good for this trade like their fan :facepalm

[novocaine]

No way Minny agrees to that deal. Absolutely no need for Gasol.

[#1SportsFan86]

http://i.imgur.com/vzM95.gif

Dude are you really a Clippers fan trying to negg me for talking about the Kobe and the Lakers?...:applause:

[#1SportsFan86]

Yeah....that's right. Ignore the ENTIRE paragraph, and ONLY respond to PART OF A SENTENCE. Which wasn't even the point of my post to begin with. Learn how to read:facepalm

:facepalm



theyve won twice with kobe taking most of the shots......... and got to the finals 3/4 yrs doing it. you are delusional if u think it doesnt scare anybody... it scares everybody... there shouldnt be a team in the league that would purposely lose games to matchup with the lakers in the playoffs... not even one

If Kobe takes all the shots it's almost a toss up if the Lakers are gonna win or lose the game these days not in the past.

[Yung D-Will]

the feck?

its very "modest" n kind from the lakers if they really offer this.. smh some people.

and again, stop this act like pekovic not gonna get more than 10 minute again if minny get pau.

Odom still can averaging 15/9 n 30 minute-ish coming from the bench, not any far than whatever Pek averaging since solidifying his starter spot.

Seriously once again Love - Pau - Pek rotation? its just crazy... Its great core for coming out from the west, like Lakers used to have, and now team like Minny can have even better version of its? Not too mention all 3 of them can play pick n roll to the death with Rubio, its just nighmare matchup for any team.

Just f*ck off from the league n relegate yourself to D-League if you don't want practically the same core that used by one of the most dominant team that go to 3 consecutive final (Lakers, pau - bynum - odom)

Seriously are you ****ing retarded? Not only has Pek outplayed Gasol since he's become a starter. But Gasol litteraly fills none of the weakness of the Wolves ( Besides shotblocking). And not only that but this trade makes the Wolves biggest weakness even bigger at the shooting guard. JJ is acting as the back up pg... And if he's traded that spot goes to Ridinour who gets the majority of his minutes at the shooting guard because he's seem to be the only person who can shoot. So Who becomes the main shooting guard now? Martell? :oldlol:

A great frontcourt doesn't automaticlly make you a better team. I mean the Jazz have ( Jefferson,Millsap,Favors and Kanter) Yet our weakness at the 1 still makes us vulnarable. And if this trade went through the Wolves not only have a weakness at the 2 but they give up most of their depth at the 3.

It makes no sense

They already have a core Rubio-Love-Pek and Williams ( After he slims down in the offseason and learns how to play the 3). And They're only 1 game out of the playoffs so what's your point. You finally get close so you want to make a massive trade to screw it up? Why are you acting like the Wolves are in win now or fail mode? They've already matched their total wins ( In 82 games last seasons) and this is without going through the full training camp and learning the full offsense of Adelman. The Wolves are a team of the future they're not in win now or go home mode. If they make it into the playoffs.. Ok If they don't.. They already overachived this season just by being at .500.

I swear sports fans are such short term thinkers... There's no reason to give up their current core guys before seeing who fits next season just to invest in Pau Gasol for the short term.

[DRose1899]

Seriously are you ****ing retarded? Not only has Pek outplayed Gasol since he's become a starter. But Gasol litteraly fills none of the weakness of the Wolves ( Besides shotblocking). And not only that but this trade makes the Wolves biggest weakness even bigger at the shooting guard. JJ is acting as the back up pg... And if he's traded that spot goes to Ridinour who gets the majority of his minutes at the shooting guard because he's seem to be the only person who can shoot. So Who becomes the main shooting guard now? Martell? :oldlol:

A great frontcourt doesn't automaticlly make you a better team. I mean the Jazz have ( Jefferson,Millsap,Favors and Kanter) Yet our weakness at the 1 still makes us vulnarable. And if this trade went through the Wolves not only have a weakness at the 2 but they give up most of their depth at the 3.

It makes no sense

They already have a core Rubio-Love-Pek and Williams ( After he slims down in the offseason and learns how to play the 3). And They're only 1 game out of the playoffs so what's your point. You finally get close so you want to make a massive trade to screw it up? Why are you acting like the Wolves are in win now or fail mode? They've already matched their total wins ( In 82 games last seasons) and this is without going through the full training camp and learning the full offsense of Adelman. The Wolves are a team of the future they're not in win now or go home mode. If they make it into the playoffs.. Ok If they don't.. They already overachived this season just by being at .500.

I swear sports fans are such short term thinkers... There's no reason to give up their current core guys before seeing who fits next season just to invest in Pau Gasol for the short term.
I'm not saying Minny should absolutely accept the deal, they can reject if they thinking its for the best n they still valuing Derrick Williams. But to say the deal is like absolute bullshit possible is very wrong.

Again Love - Gasol - Pekovic is just too good, and unlike Utah. Minny have Rubio that can control the team n give them right spot.

And they hardly got production from Beasley and Williams, so its hard to think this trade that got them top 10 PFmake them even worse.

Again Minny have all the right in the world to reject, but acting like this something like Kwame's deal just :facepalm

[Yung D-Will]

I'm not saying Minny should absolutely accept the deal, they can reject if they thinking its for the best n they still valuing Derrick Williams. But to say the deal is like absolute bullshit possible is very wrong.

Again Love - Gasol - Pekovic is just too good, and unlike Utah. Minny have Rubio that can control the team n give them right spot.

And they hardly got production from Beasley and Williams, so its hard to think this trade that got them top 10 PFmake them even worse.

Again Minny have all the right in the world to reject, but acting like this something like Kwame's deal just :facepalm

The difference between Utah and Minny is Utah's weakness is at the 1 whiles after this trade Minny weakness would still be at the 2 and potentially at the 3. And that weakness is even bigger once you consider Rubio's jumpshot is inconsistent. After teams realize you suck from the perimiter what do they do? They collapse on your bigs. Just look at Memphis vs Okc last year when Memphis didn't have a perimiter threat.

Williams has put up double digit scoring games when he's started at the 3 so it's all a matter of learning how to defend, Slimming Down, Continuing to develop his playmaking skills and his perimiter skills. Lucky for him he's under Rick Adelman who's great at that.

Yes it would make them worse. Because their weakness isn't in their frontcourt. They get the most production out of their frontcourt. Their weakness is in their wings.


The deal is Bullshit because it doesn't adress any of Minny's problems. And drains the development of Pek when he's just begun to dominate

[Yung D-Will]

I never said the trade was a Rip off. I said it was unrealistic to think the wolves would do that because it doesn't help them in the long run. In terms of value Gasol is equal to when they gave up.

[ZenMaster]

What message are you sending to Pekovic though? We think you have been playing great, but we have decided to insert Gasol into this team and have him start. Just not a good message to send to someone who has just played his backside off to get a starting gig.

Id be pissed if i was pekovic and that happened. Id be like, hey new kid, this is my house I earnt it! Now you wanna come along and take away what I just got? F**k that, Pekovic has been playing like one of the best centres in the NBA, IMO the forward position is not where they need to upgrade, its the SG position, and even SF, since derrick is more of a PF.

You sit down and talk to him, explain that you need 3 bigmen to be succesfull.

And Pek would be like "hey new kid"? It's Pau Gasol, Pek probably looked at tapes with him when he was younger. Pek's a euro and used to sharing minutes, same thing with Gasol.
It's rare you hear euros complain about playing time because they're used to playing with a different sub philosphy than in the NBA.

[I<3NBA]

what Minny should do is build the Spanish team :lol
that would be a winning basketball team. the amount of years those guys have played together will ensure there is no chemistry problems. i envision instant championship :lol

Ricky Rubio
Juan Carlos Navarro
Rudy Fernandez
Pau Gasol
Marc Gasol
Serge Ibaka

[FireMcFailPlease]

lmao @ gutting our depth to add a player at position(s) we're already set at.

[FireMcFailPlease]

I know right it's ****ing Pekovic! I call it the Jeremy Lin effect. Minnesota essentially gives up 2 players that aren't in the rotation and a back up for an all star caliber big man. For some reason Pau Gasol is a God when he's on the Lakers but when he's getting traded all of a sudden he's trash.
what the hell are you talking about...just because they dont start(and really, they could start..thats on adelman)...doesn't mean theyre rotation players

[FireMcFailPlease]

Seriously minny fan.. please remember what that make the lakers go to 3 consecutive finals. BIG portion of its.

You can have the "mini" version of that, n its damn good for you.

The deal probably would not happen, but saying you don't want it just very silly. :facepalm
bwahaha.

k, if wayne ellington suddenly becomes kobe bryant over night, itd be stupid of us not to do this!

[KOBEtherealKing]

what Minny should do is build the Spanish team :lol
that would be a winning basketball team. the amount of years those guys have played together will ensure there is no chemistry problems. i envision instant championship :lol

Ricky Rubio
Juan Carlos Navarro
Rudy Fernandez
Pau Gasol
Marc Gasol
Serge Ibaka

Lol

[NumberSix]

Not bad. I can't really say any team is getting dipped in that deal

[qrich]

Good deal for the Magic. Getting a young big man that has produced, though is vastly injury prone, along with Derrick Williams is a damn good return.

So/so for the Lakers. Kobe/Dwight can and will be scary, but with Fisher/Blake/D-League at the point and McRoberts/Sheed/Murphy at the 4, too many holes and opponents can focus on just Dwight and Kobe.

Horrid for the Wolves. A nice young guy in Williams along with Barea and Beasley for Gasol when they already have Love and decent enough depth up front just isn't worth it.

[HylianNightmare]

why don't we try to get rid of hedo or jrich or jameer or duhon ?

[LakersReign]

:facepalm




If Kobe takes all the shots it's almost a toss up if the Lakers are gonna win or lose the game these days not in the past.



Just gotta love it how, the haters are so quick to pronounce the eulogy on the Lakers. But the minute there's a rumor of a signing/trade, they're the first ones to run in to topics like this, screaming like banshees, like they're scared of something.:lol


Yeah....I know....right?! :facepalm indeed. Especially when you OBVIOUSLY didn't even bother to read the post to begin with, but still chose to respond to it anyway. Further proving that you TRULY can't read:roll:

[DStebb716]

That's a pretty damn good deal.

[Nevaeh]

theyve won twice with kobe taking most of the shots......... and got to the finals 3/4 yrs doing it. you are delusional if u think it doesnt scare anybody... it scares everybody... there shouldnt be a team in the league that would purposely lose games to matchup with the lakers in the playoffs... not even one

Yeah, the Mavs looked REALLLLYYY petrified last season, didn't they?

:rolleyes:

[tmacattack33]

I don't watch many Wolves games. How are Barea and Beasley defensively? I know Beasley is known for being a bum on defense, but he was on the Miami team that lead surprisingly lead the league many defensive categories two years ago.

[Zenji]

Pretty good trade for all involved.

[CLTHornets4eva]

whats with these non-USA sources ?

Puerto Rico is the US.:facepalm

It actually is a great trade. Minnesota would be really good.

[Brickz187]

Wolves getting ripped for Gasol, they don't even need him lol

Of course Magic and Lakers fans are going to praise the deal.

[Derka]

Not sure how Gasol to the Wolves makes any sense at all.

It'll be funny when Dwight doesn't re-sign with LA and takes free agency, though. No returns on Bynum, methinks. Nothing quite like giving up your third seven-footer for a few months of Dwight Howard (and still not winning a ring in 2012).

[BallsOut]

Lakers get raped. They give up Bynum AND Gasol to get back Dwight, Beasley and Barea :facepalm

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Not sure how Gasol to the Wolves makes any sense at all.

It'll be funny when Dwight doesn't re-sign with LA and takes free agency, though. No returns on Bynum, methinks. Nothing quite like giving up your third seven-footer for a few months of Dwight Howard (and still not winning a ring in 2012).
You must be really fcking stupid if you think LA pulls the trigger without having Dwight's word that he'll resign.

edit: nevermind, just noticed you're a petty, jealous Celtics fan. Carry on young man..

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Lakers get raped. They give up Bynum AND Gasol to get back Dwight, Beasley and Barea :facepalm
This move is for the future with a slight chance of competing immediately, let's just get it done already.

[Phantom_Blue]

From a value to their team standpoint, Minny is giving up their backups, while the other teams are giving up vital pieces to their organization.

No way Minny gets out of this without losing Pekovic & Ridnour(Lakers), not to mention the logjam that Gasol brings when all 3 of them are there.

[Derka]

You must be really fcking stupid if you think LA pulls the trigger without having Dwight's word that he'll resign.

edit: nevermind, just noticed you're a petty, jealous Celtics fan. Carry on young man..

Which is why the trade makes no sense, because he's not signing with LA. Try to comprehend what you're reading before going off on a rather insane-sounding, expletive-laden tirade.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Which is why the trade makes no sense, because he's not signing with LA. Try to comprehend what you're reading before going off on a rather insane-sounding, expletive-laden tirade.
And why isn't he going to sign in LA? Because you're a Celtics fan?

Besides I was responding to this nonsense from you


It'll be funny when Dwight doesn't re-sign with LA and takes free agency, though. No returns on Bynum, methinks. Nothing quite like giving up your third seven-footer for a few months of Dwight Howard (and still not winning a ring in 2012).

[stallionaire]

This is an awful trade. It won't happen. We're getting ****ing gouged.

If this happens I'm going to throw a brick through the window of the front office of the Timberwolves. Jesus Christ just thinking about this trade pisses me off.

Barea is emerging into our system. Every day he's getting more comfortable with both his role on our team and with his body (he just came off an injury back in Jan, which was minor but you could tell he hasn't been going at full speed.)

Derrick Williams is a work in progress. The #2 pick cannot be given up this fast. Yes, the past years draft was awful beyond Kyrie. But Derrick is continuing to put in work and I honestly think in a couple seasons he will be a competent stretch 3.

Beasley can be traded for more to someone else.

Gasol is an aging veteran who is a mere shadow of what he used to be. I completely acknowledge that the Lakers would have had a ****ing hard time competing for a title without him back when they repeated.

We need a gunner like Kevin Martin. These Gasol rumors are garbage.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

This is an awful trade. It won't happen. We're getting ****ing gouged.

If this happens I'm going to throw a brick through the window of the front office of the Timberwolves. Jesus Christ just thinking about this trade pisses me off.

Barea is emerging into our system. Every day he's getting more comfortable with both his role on our team and with his body (he just came off an injury back in Jan, which was minor but you could tell he hasn't been going at full speed.)

Derrick Williams is a work in progress. The #2 pick cannot be given up this fast. Yes, the past years draft was awful beyond Kyrie. But Derrick is continuing to put in work and I honestly think in a couple seasons he will be a competent stretch 3.

Beasley can be traded for more to someone else.

Gasol is an aging veteran who is a mere shadow of what he used to be. I completely acknowledge that the Lakers would have had a ****ing hard time competing for a title without him back when they repeated.

We need a gunner like Kevin Martin. These Gasol rumors are garbage.
Another question is if Pau is willing to extend with Sota.

[The Choken One]

Who would start at PF for the Lakers though?

But this is a realistic trade for all teams involved.

[talkingconch]

Who would start at PF for the Lakers though?

But this is a realistic trade for all teams involved.
probably Mitch kupchak

[Swaggin916]

Who would start at PF for the Lakers though?

But this is a realistic trade for all teams involved.

beasley probably altho he could be a good sixth man.... with dwight it would give the lakers the freedom of playing beasley at the four whenever dwight is in.

[stallionaire]

But this is a realistic trade for all teams involved.

It's only realistic because the Lakers are always trying to rip off small market teams. Their franchise since getting Shaq is shady at best.

[MK2V1GP]

This is an awful trade. It won't happen. We're getting ****ing gouged.

If this happens I'm going to throw a brick through the window of the front office of the Timberwolves. Jesus Christ just thinking about this trade pisses me off.

Barea is emerging into our system. Every day he's getting more comfortable with both his role on our team and with his body (he just came off an injury back in Jan, which was minor but you could tell he hasn't been going at full speed.)

Derrick Williams is a work in progress. The #2 pick cannot be given up this fast. Yes, the past years draft was awful beyond Kyrie. But Derrick is continuing to put in work and I honestly think in a couple seasons he will be a competent stretch 3.

Beasley can be traded for more to someone else.

Gasol is an aging veteran who is a mere shadow of what he used to be. I completely acknowledge that the Lakers would have had a ****ing hard time competing for a title without him back when they repeated.

We need a gunner like Kevin Martin. These Gasol rumors are garbage.

I agree 1,000%

Minnesota is already set at C and PF. Why bring in another one essentially taking minutes away from Pek? Yes, it'd be the best big-man rotation in the NBA, but the hole at wing would be even more of a glare w/o Beasley and Williams.

And like you said, Barea is finally playing well and finding his niche with the team.


If Minnesota makes this trade, they'd not only regret it instantly, but they'd really regret it in 5 years when Gasol is about to retire/already retired and D-Will is putting up 18/9 every night.

[Swaggin916]

Good deal for the Magic. Getting a young big man that has produced, though is vastly injury prone, along with Derrick Williams is a damn good return.

So/so for the Lakers. Kobe/Dwight can and will be scary, but with Fisher/Blake/D-League at the point and McRoberts/Sheed/Murphy at the 4, too many holes and opponents can focus on just Dwight and Kobe.

Horrid for the Wolves. A nice young guy in Williams along with Barea and Beasley for Gasol when they already have Love and decent enough depth up front just isn't worth it.

its an ok deal for the wolves... barea williams and beasley are all easily replacable. williams is never going to be anything he sucks... beasleycould be a good sixth man and barea is just a quick scoring gaurd god knows there are plenty of those going around these days. with rubio, everyone becomes better, so the other pieces will fit in place... but u cant make up for their lack of size and gasol gives them a legit post player and will get a lot touches as rubio looks for lovemto post constantly so imagine gasol there. if he was 29 it be a no brainer really.... but still pau should be a good player into his mid 30s and like i said, williams is total bust has no game and never will. couldnt do a thing even in the rising stars game. so basically ur giving up two decent players in beas and barrea and a very good player in pau. how do u really lose that deal

[Yung D-Will]

its an ok deal for the wolves... barea williams and beasley are all easily replacable. williams is never going to be anything he sucks... beasleycould be a good sixth man and barea is just a quick scoring gaurd god knows there are plenty of those going around these days. with rubio, everyone becomes better, so the other pieces will fit in place... but u cant make up for their lack of size and gasol gives them a legit post player and will get a lot touches as rubio looks for lovemto post constantly so imagine gasol there. if he was 29 it be a no brainer really.... but still pau should be a good player into his mid 30s and like i said, williams is total bust has no game and never will. couldnt do a thing even in the rising stars game. so basically ur giving up two decent players in beas and barrea and a very good player in pau. how do u really lose that deal

Seriously are you ****ing retarded? Not only has Pek outplayed Gasol since he's become a starter. But Gasol litteraly fills none of the weakness of the Wolves ( Besides shotblocking). And not only that but this trade makes the Wolves biggest weakness even bigger at the shooting guard. JJ is acting as the back up pg... And if he's traded that spot goes to Ridinour who gets the majority of his minutes at the shooting guard because he's seem to be the only person who can shoot. So Who becomes the main shooting guard now? Martell?

A great frontcourt doesn't automaticlly make you a better team. I mean the Jazz have ( Jefferson,Millsap,Favors and Kanter) Yet our weakness at the 1 still makes us vulnarable. And if this trade went through the Wolves not only have a weakness at the 2 but they give up most of their depth at the 3.

It makes no sense

They already have a core Rubio-Love-Pek and Williams ( After he slims down in the offseason and learns how to play the 3). And They're only 1 game out of the playoffs so what's your point. You finally get close so you want to make a massive trade to screw it up? Why are you acting like the Wolves are in win now or fail mode? They've already matched their total wins ( In 82 games last seasons) and this is without going through the full training camp and learning the full offsense of Adelman. The Wolves are a team of the future they're not in win now or go home mode. If they make it into the playoffs.. Ok If they don't.. They already overachived this season just by being at .500.

I swear sports fans are such short term thinkers... There's no reason to give up their current core guys before seeing who fits next season just to invest in Pau Gasol for the short term.


He reiterated he likes these young players who won 17 games last season and foresees only some roster "pruning" and "tweaking" in the free-agent and trade markets.

He said new coach Rick Adelman needs "a long period of time" to learn about and develop this collection of young athletes.

-David Kahn

He's not gonna trade a guy like Derrick WIlliams before he gets a full traning camp to try and learn how to play the 3 effectively from Adelman it makes little to no sense. And Adelman stated like 2 days ago that Pek earned his minutes and his spot and is only getting better.
So it makes no sense to take away minutes from the guy who's been dominating the past month and has amazing chemistry for another big and it still doesn't solve their only real problem which is the at the SG.







Lol how do you say Williams is Never gonna be anything from 34 games into the season when he's still learning how to pass and defend and develop his game. Not to mention he's under a coach like Rick Adelman.


I swear people and their " Owe he's not dominating his his rookie season so he's a bust mentality" :oldlol:

Really you do realize that D-Will already defends better than Beasley and makes more of an effort to not stop the ball and make more plays for others than Beasley ever has. :facepalm

[stallionaire]

its an ok deal for the wolves... barea williams and beasley are all easily replacable. williams is never going to be anything he sucks... beasleycould be a good sixth man and barea is just a quick scoring gaurd god knows there are plenty of those going around these days. with rubio, everyone becomes better, so the other pieces will fit in place... but u cant make up for their lack of size and gasol gives them a legit post player and will get a lot touches as rubio looks for lovemto post constantly so imagine gasol there. if he was 29 it be a no brainer really.... but still pau should be a good player into his mid 30s and like i said, williams is total bust has no game and never will. couldnt do a thing even in the rising stars game. so basically ur giving up two decent players in beas and barrea and a very good player in pau. how do u really lose that deal

You've never watched a Timberwolves game it seems.

Williams is a ROOKIE, albeit the number 2 pick, HE IS STILL A ROOKIE. He shows flashes, he plays hard and fast.

I've done my research on guys who came into the league as tweeners, Derrick isn't doing that bad considering the minutes he's getting. His growth is stunted because he's native to the 4 position in college but now he's on a new team with a guy named Kevin Love and an offense that'll require him to play in a new way.

Barea has done well for himself recently and to trade him when he has barely played with the team this season :wtf: .

Take Beasley, but when you gouge the team at positions with TRUE PROMISE it just becomes a ****ing joke.

Lakers fans. :facepalm

I really wish the NBA would start nationally televising Timberwolves games for you ****ing knuckleheads.

[stallionaire]

I'm not saying Gasol is a bad player. The Lakers definitely deserve something for him. Minnesota is better suited doing nothing by the trade deadline than this trade.

Book this comment, if this trade ever gets fired off (which it won't): The Hornets are looking at a very nice unprotected pick this year because we'll sink to the bottom of the West.

[The Choken One]

Barea is shooting 39%, about 11 points a game, and 3 assists. Replaceable.

Derrick Williams is IS NOT going to be an 18/9 guy. Someone's delusion..:lol

Beasly is Beasly. No one really arguing him.

Pau is a great PF. To say he wouldn't make the Wolves better is stupid. He's got great court vision and he'll do amazing with a player like Rubio.

How isn't this trade fair? I don't see it...

[MK2V1GP]

williams is never going to be anything he sucks...

:roll: :lol :oldlol: :roll: :lol :roll:

He's a rookie. In a shortened/condensed season. Playing limited minutes behind perhaps the best PF in the game.

Yeah. He sucks. He should just retire.

[stallionaire]

He reiterated he likes these young players who won 17 games last season and foresees only some roster "pruning" and "tweaking" in the free-agent and trade markets.

He said new coach Rick Adelman needs "a long period of time" to learn about and develop this collection of young athletes.

-David Kahn

He's not gonna trade a guy like Derrick WIlliams before he gets a full traning camp to try and learn how to play the 3 effectively from Adelman it makes little to no sense. And Adelman stated like 2 days ago that Pek earned his minutes and his spot and is only getting better.
So it makes no sense to take away minutes from the guy who's been dominating the past month and has amazing chemistry for another big and it still doesn't solve their only real problem which is the at the SG.


Have to emphasize this.

We have Rick Adelman, he deserves credit because you know he'll have something to say if Kahn tries getting rid of Barea and Williams.

[stallionaire]

Barea is shooting 39%, about 11 points a game, and 3 assists. Replaceable.

Derrick Williams is IS NOT going to be an 18/9 guy. Someone's delusion..:lol

Beasly is Beasly. No one really arguing him.

Pau is a great PF. To say he wouldn't make the Wolves better is stupid. He's got great court vision and he'll do amazing with a player like Rubio.

How isn't this trade fair? I don't see it...

:facepalm

[Yung D-Will]

Barea is shooting 39%, about 11 points a game, and 3 assists. Replaceable.

Derrick Williams is IS NOT going to be an 18/9 guy. Someone's delusion..:lol

Beasly is Beasly. No one really arguing him.

Pau is a great PF. To say he wouldn't make the Wolves better is stupid. He's got great court vision and he'll do amazing with a player like Rubio.

How isn't this trade fair? I don't see it...


And not only that but this trade makes the Wolves biggest weakness even bigger at the shooting guard. JJ is acting as the back up pg... And if he's traded that spot goes to Ridinour who gets the majority of his minutes at the shooting guard because he's seem to be the only person who can shoot. So Who becomes the main shooting guard now? Martell?

A great frontcourt doesn't automaticlly make you a better team. I mean the Jazz have ( Jefferson,Millsap,Favors and Kanter) Yet our weakness at the 1 still makes us vulnarable. And if this trade went through the Wolves not only have a weakness at the 2 but they give up most of their depth at the 3.

[MK2V1GP]

Barea is shooting 39%, about 11 points a game, and 3 assists. Replaceable.

Derrick Williams is IS NOT going to be an 18/9 guy. Someone's delusion..:lol

Beasly is Beasly. No one really arguing him.

Pau is a great PF. To say he wouldn't make the Wolves better is stupid. He's got great court vision and he'll do amazing with a player like Rubio.

How isn't this trade fair? I don't see it...

When he's gotten more than 5 minutes, he's been good. In Minn's last game, where he basically won the game (along with Barea), he had like 14/9 in 20 minutes.

Man, I swear there are a lot of either blind haters or straight-up retards.

[MK2V1GP]

And not only that but this trade makes the Wolves biggest weakness even bigger at the shooting guard. JJ is acting as the back up pg... And if he's traded that spot goes to Ridinour who gets the majority of his minutes at the shooting guard because he's seem to be the only person who can shoot. So Who becomes the main shooting guard now? Martell?

A great frontcourt doesn't automaticlly make you a better team. I mean the Jazz have ( Jefferson,Millsap,Favors and Kanter) Yet our weakness at the 1 still makes us vulnarable. And if this trade went through the Wolves not only have a weakness at the 2 but they give up most of their depth at the 3.

Exactly. Very well put.


If you make one strength better but weaken other areas, it's a step sideways or backwards, not forwards.

[stallionaire]

When he's gotten more than 5 minutes, he's been good. In Minn's last game, where he basically won the game (along with Barea), he had like 14/9 in 20 minutes.

Man, I swear there are a lot of either blind haters or straight-up retards.

Lol yeah. Barea and Williams put the ****ing team on their back on Wednesday against the Jazz. Those 2, along with Ridnours floater at the buzzer, are the only reason we won. We came back 16 in the 4th because of them two. But that's one game.

Guess Lakers fans were too busy jerking off to ESPN trade machine rumors which involve someone joining the Lakers in order to win another ring for Kobe.

[hops and stops]

I think Pau Gasol is being criminally underrated if there are this many people balking at the thought of giving up J.J. Barea, Derrick Williams and Michael Beasley for him. Some of you guys must be forgetting how instrumental Gasol was for the Lakers' two recent championships. He's an incredibly talented and unique seven footer who's only recently not been playing up to his usual standards from all the trade rumors and roster changes messing up his mentality. And even then, he's been putting up 17 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists on 50.2% shooting this season.

The dude's a beast and he can help almost any team's front court enormously.

[Kobr]

:oldlol:

http://i.imgur.com/h2fZo.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/vZSTC.jpg)

[RazorBaLade]

:oldlol:

http://i.imgur.com/vZSTCl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/vZSTC.jpg)

exaccccccccccccccctly holy shit

[chazzy]

lol'd at that pic, so true. Especially with Bynum. Specifically Duma.

[INDI]

Rumor has it that the wolves were considering trading Beasley for LA's trade exception, they know that someone will offer Beasley a large contract that they will not want to match. If that is the case then technically the trade is Pau Gasol for barea and williams. Who gets the better end of the deal now??????

[stallionaire]

I think Pau Gasol is being criminally underrated if there are this many people balking at the thought of giving up J.J. Barea, Derrick Williams and Michael Beasley for him. Some of you guys must be forgetting how instrumental Gasol was for the Lakers' two recent championships. He's an incredibly talented and unique seven footer who's only recently not been playing up to his usual standards from all the trade rumors and roster changes messing up his mentality. And even then, he's been putting up 17 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists on 50.2% shooting this season.

The dude's a beast and he can help almost any team's front court enormously.
:facepalm

[MK2V1GP]

I think Pau Gasol is being criminally underrated if there are this many people balking at the thought of giving up J.J. Barea, Derrick Williams and Michael Beasley for him. Some of you guys must be forgetting how instrumental Gasol was for the Lakers' two recent championships. He's an incredibly talented and unique seven footer who's only recently not been playing up to his usual standards from all the trade rumors and roster changes messing up his mentality. And even then, he's been putting up 17 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists on 50.2% shooting this season.

The dude's a beast and he can help almost any team's front court enormously.

1. The biggest reason most Minnesota fans don't want to give up those 3 for Gasol is b/c the Wolves are set at PF and C already. Why trade your best trade assets for another big when your weakness is clearly on the wing (SG/SF)????

2. Williams, Beasley, Barea for Gasol, on the surface, isn't bad. But when you factor in Gasol's age and contract, those two things are what makes it a bad deal.

[Yung D-Will]

I should keep quoting my damn post until people stop making dumb statements :lol

[DFish]

:oldlol:

http://i.imgur.com/h2fZo.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/vZSTC.jpg)

It would be funnier if it weren't so true of certain posters. :applause:

[brantonli]

I can see why Adelman will want Gasol though, would be absolutely perfect. But how on earth would that rotation be sorted out? If this was the offseason then that trade would be perfect, but now Pekovic is in the mix as well. Love Gasol Pekovic? Somebody has to go to the bench, Gasol would not be happy with that.

[Pursuer]

Gasol wouldn't go to the bench. Imagine, how much room Gasol would have in the post with Love on the perimeter. And with Rubio's and Love's passing skills, they could really establish great half-court offense. This team would be so much better after this trade, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[Droid101]

Make it a four teamer and get Kevin Martin and assets instead of Pau.

[MK2V1GP]

Make it a four teamer and get Kevin Martin and assets instead of Pau.

This. Include Houston and have Gasol going to H-Town and K-Mart/picks going to Minnesota

[SwooshReturns]

If the Lakers pick up D12, and some form of an upgrade at PG ... they can beat anyone in the WCF.

[Kobr]

This. Include Houston and have Gasol going to H-Town and K-Mart/picks going to Minnesota

Yeah, that's not a bad idea.

[sodap]

The wolves need 2 guard with size that can shoot the rock.........Wonder what it would take to get Rudy Fernandez?? however, i'm not sold yet that martell webster can't be that guy


rudy fernandez is the best player on the planet to compliment rubio. HE basically created ricky rubio. they beasted together in jouventut, together they were basically a highlight machine of team destruction. fernandez would also give the wolves a lot of things they need. i think he's a free agent this summer.

[GOBB]

Pekovic has been putting up better numbers than Gasol lately.

So you would reject Gasol in favor of Pek?

[Droid101]

they beasted together in jouventut, together they were basically a highlight machine of team destruction.
This sentence made me laugh hard.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

First of all, Orlando should jump all over that deal, esp if Derrick Williams is actually legit.
From Minny's perspective, they are getting rid of a player they don't want (Beasley) while trading Williams/Barea for Gasol. Meanwhile, Gasol plays with his fellow countryman.
Lakers would be taking a huge risk imo. Are they really a better team:
Howard > Bynum
but
Beasley <<<<<<<<<<<< Gasol

If this goes thru, then the Laker BETTER put that trade exception to very good use.

[REACTION]

Make it a four teamer and get Kevin Martin and assets instead of Pau.

Hmm.. What about something like this?

http://i.imgur.com/u0wwh.jpg

Lakers: They get Dwight Howard and fill two of their weak spots at the PG and SF with Beasley and Dragic. They give up Bynum, Gasol and Ebanks.

PG: Dragic, Fisher, Blake
SG: Kobe, Kapono, Goudelock
SF: Beasley, Artest, Barnes
PF: McRoberts, Murphy, Rasheed
C: Dwight Howard, Murphy/McBob/Rasheed

TWolves: They get to hang on to their rookie in Derrick Williams and they gain a great SG, one of their weak spots, in Kevin Martin. I know Turkoglu has 3 years on his contract, but I think he could be a viable, safe replacement at SF for Beasley. The only other player the wolves give up is Ridnour.

PG: Rubio, Barea
SG: Martin, Johnson, Ellington
SF: Turkoglu, Williams, Webster
PF: Love, Randolph, Tolliver
C: Pekovic, Milicic

Rockets: They get their PF upgrade in Pau Gasol and a replacement PG for Dragic in Ridnour. If the Lakers/Twolves throw in a pick or two, I think Houston might reopen their interest in a Gasol trade.

PG: Lowry, Ridnour, Flynn
SG: Courtney Lee, Williams
SF: Williams, Budinger, Morris
PF: Gasol, Patterson, Parsons
C: Dalembert, Thabeet, Hill, Smith

Magic: They get a pretty damn good return for their leaving franchise player. They get a nice front-court combo of Bynum and Scola, they get to unload Hedo's contract, and they get a pretty promising SF with Ebanks, who happens to be an expirer anyway. I don't know if picks would also have to be thrown in or not.

PG: Nelson, Duhon, Hughes
SG: Redick, JRich, Wafer
SF: QRich, Ebanks, Clark
PF: Scola, Davis, Anderson
C: Bynum, Orton

[WeGetRing2012]

The Lakers aren't giving Pau & Bynum for Howard no matter how you put it

[REACTION]

The Lakers aren't giving Pau & Bynum for Howard no matter how you put it

Yeah, I agree. They won't give up both for Howard alone.

They'd be giving up Gasol and Bynum for Dwight, Beasley and Dragic. If you look at the upgrades/downgrades at each position:

Dragic >>> Fisher
Kobe = Kobe
Beasley > MWP/Barnes
McRob/Sheed <<< Gasol
Dwight >>>>>>> Bynum

They'd be getting weaker at the 4, but greatly improving at the 5, significantly improving at the 1, and fixing their SF issue.

[hops and stops]

So Rasheed Wallace to the Lakers is official?

[stallionaire]

PG: Rubio, Barea
SG: Martin, Johnson, Ellington
SF: Turkoglu, Williams, Webster
PF: Love, Randolph, Tolliver
C: Pekovic, Milicic

http://i.imgur.com/zXfZ4.gif

[DirtySanchez]

A trade that actually makes sense for all three teams, wow.

This

But coming for PR???

[stallionaire]

Hmm.. What about something like this?

http://i.imgur.com/u0wwh.jpg

Lakers: They get Dwight Howard and fill two of their weak spots at the PG and SF with Beasley and Dragic. They give up Bynum, Gasol and Ebanks.

PG: Dragic, Fisher, Blake
SG: Kobe, Kapono, Goudelock
SF: Beasley, Artest, Barnes
PF: McRoberts, Murphy, Rasheed
C: Dwight Howard, Murphy/McBob/Rasheed

TWolves: They get to hang on to their rookie in Derrick Williams and they gain a great SG, one of their weak spots, in Kevin Martin. I know Turkoglu has 3 years on his contract, but I think he could be a viable, safe replacement at SF for Beasley. The only other player the wolves give up is Ridnour.

PG: Rubio, Barea
SG: Martin, Johnson, Ellington
SF: Turkoglu, Williams, Webster
PF: Love, Randolph, Tolliver
C: Pekovic, Milicic

Rockets: They get their PF upgrade in Pau Gasol and a replacement PG for Dragic in Ridnour. If the Lakers/Twolves throw in a pick or two, I think Houston might reopen their interest in a Gasol trade.

PG: Lowry, Ridnour, Flynn
SG: Courtney Lee, Williams
SF: Williams, Budinger, Morris
PF: Gasol, Patterson, Parsons
C: Dalembert, Thabeet, Hill, Smith

Magic: They get a pretty damn good return for their leaving franchise player. They get a nice front-court combo of Bynum and Scola, they get to unload Hedo's contract, and they get a pretty promising SF with Ebanks, who happens to be an expirer anyway. I don't know if picks would also have to be thrown in or not.

PG: Nelson, Duhon, Hughes
SG: Redick, JRich, Wafer
SF: QRich, Ebanks, Clark
PF: Scola, Davis, Anderson
C: Bynum, Orton

This is the best trade ever to be submitted on ISH.

I should e-mail the Lakers, Wolves, Magic, and Rockets front offices.

[DirtySanchez]

So you would reject Gasol in favor of Pek?

In favor for Pek Pek yes.

[stallionaire]

Pek > Gasol. Lakers aren't touching him :D

Minny got him on lock.

[Whoah10115]

This is the best trade ever to be submitted on ISH.

I should e-mail the Lakers, Wolves, Magic, and Rockets front offices.






It's almost there...Orlando still needs a little more.

[WeGetRing2012]

Yeah, I agree. They won't give up both for Howard alone.

They'd be giving up Gasol and Bynum for Dwight, Beasley and Dragic. If you look at the upgrades/downgrades at each position:

Dragic >>> Fisher
Kobe = Kobe
Beasley > MWP/Barnes
McRob/Sheed <<< Gasol
Dwight >>>>>>> Bynum

They'd be getting weaker at the 4, but greatly improving at the 5, significantly improving at the 1, and fixing their SF issue.

That is a bad trade for the Lakers. We can get Beasley without giving up Pau or Bynum & Dragic is not the point guard we need going forward. A frontcourt of Bynum & Gasol>>>>>>> Dwight & McRoberts. We could sign Arenas while still keeping our core. If we are trading Pau or Bynum were not getting role players + Dwight.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I wonder if Pau would pack it in after a trade ie Odom. He didn't give a sht during the play-offs last season so who knows what Pau Gasol Minny gets.

[hops and stops]

That is a bad trade for the Lakers. We can get Beasley without giving up Pau or Bynum & Dragic is not the point guard we need going forward. A frontcourt of Bynum & Gasol>>>>>>> Dwight & McRoberts. We could sign Arenas while still keeping our core. If we are trading Pau or Bynum were not getting role players + Dwight.
what if Orlando threw in a PF? since they'd have a surplus with Scola, Anderson, Davis, and Clark... i dunno if they'd give up Ryan Anderson or Big Baby Davis but if they were added i think the trade would look great for the Lakers..

Going In:


Goran Dragic
Michael Beasley
Anderson/Davis
Dwight Howard


Going Out:


Devin Ebanks
Pau Gasol
Andrew Bynum

[RazorBaLade]

the rockets only wanted pau when nene was available