Who is the strongest

[Fiba basketball]

Who is the strongest player in the Nba ? Cs are strongest players but what C is the strongest ?

[hkfosho]

I remember a few years ago someone from the Raptors had the highest bench... forgot his name though. He has a twin brother playing in the NBa as well I think.

[jlauber]

Who is the strongest player in the Nba ? Cs are strongest players but what C is the strongest ?

Chamberlain, Gilmore, and Shaq...in probably any order, although there were those that claimed that Wilt was benching over 500 lbs. Ben Wallace also reportedly had a 450 bench, but he was considerably shorter, with much shorter arms.

[InspiredLebowski]

I remember a few years ago someone from the Raptors had the highest bench... forgot his name though. He has a twin brother playing in the NBa as well I think.Joey Graham. Or Stephen. One or the other. They're both terrible.

[swi7ch]

earl boykins benches 435 lbs

[hkfosho]

Joey Graham. Or Stephen. One or the other. They're both terrible.

Ohhh right it was Joey Graham. Terrible, but I heard he was the strongest in terms of physical strength.

[InspiredLebowski]

Ohhh right it was Joey Graham. Terrible, but I heard he was the strongest in terms of physical strength.Drafted one spot ahead of Granger. Thank Babcock! At least I think that was him.

[QuebecBaller]

Joey Graham. Or Stephen. One or the other. They're both terrible.

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/joey_graham_1.jpg

[hkfosho]

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/joey_graham_1.jpg

holy sh!t :lol

[sipitri]

Ben Wallace. He can kill a silverback gorilla 1on1, someone says :lol

[Fiba basketball]

I thought who is the strongest at this monent , not in the Nba history

[Dwade305]

OP is itching for someone to say Pekovic. So ok, Pekovic. You happy phagg0t?

[Asukal]

Wilt. He beat up a mountain lion with his bare hands ffs! :hammerhead:

[Q.E.C]

Kevin Durant is clearly the strongest person in the NBA.

[BarberSchool]

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/joey_graham_1.jpgHe only weighs 230 pounds. Pound for ppound he might be the strongest, but no way would he overall be the strongest compared to alot of dudes who weigh near 300 pounds. No way is he stronger than Al Jefferson, Zaza Patchulia, Dwight Howard, Nikola Pekovic, or Kendrick Perkins. All those dudes can push a car or pull a truck or lift bigger stones than Joey Graham.

[Fiba basketball]

OP is itching for someone to say Pekovic. So ok, Pekovic. You happy phagg0t?
I think that the best and the strongest C in the Nba is Howard . I dont think Pekovic is stronges European player so I cant think he is strongest player in Nba . Theres no need for insults .

[TaLvsCuaL]

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[Bigsmoke]

Dwight

[Fiba basketball]

Kevin Durant is clearly the strongest person in the NBA.
Yes , but he is not a C

[bmulls]

Chamberlain, Gilmore, and Shaq...in probably any order, although there were those that claimed that Wilt was benching over 500 lbs. Ben Wallace also reportedly had a 450 bench, but he was considerably shorter, with much shorter arms.

You obviously don't life weights. There is no way Wilt ever even got close to 400, let alone 500.

[EnoughSaid]

If you are talking about strong as in strong finishes at the rim?

At positions:

Rose
Wade
LeBron
Amare/Blake
Nene

[NumberSix]

Andrew Bynum.

[NumberSix]

If you are talking about strong as in strong finishes at the rim?

At positions:

Rose
Wade
LeBron
Amare/Blake
Nene
I'd say Westbrook > Rose.

[hkfosho]

I'd say Westbrook > Rose.

Then you clearly haven't seen Rose play.

[bmulls]

I'd say Westbrook > Rose.

Derek Fisher

[blablabla]

melo is pretty strong

[jlauber]

You obviously don't life weights. There is no way Wilt ever even got close to 400, let alone 500.

You obviously have done NO research.

How about this SI article in '64, and long before Wilt peaked.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1075691/2/index.htm


With Chamberlain now doing what everyone expected of him all along, San Francisco fans are coming back. They like him and his perpetual-motion supporting cast, and they like winning. About the only people not happy are the Warriors' opponents. The St. Louis Hawks' 6-foot-9, 240-pound Zelmo Beaty, for example, found out recently that he can no longer take Chamberlain's great strength for granted. Unable to slow Wilt down with conventional maltreatment, Beaty tried to yank his shorts off. Chamberlain, who can press 400 pounds without breathing hard, makes it a point to control his temper, primarily because he is genuinely afraid he might kill somebody. Beaty's unethical yank, however, was too much. Wilt flicked an arm, and Beaty flew across the floor like a man shot out of a cannon. Referee Mendy Rudolph rushed over to him and said: "For God's sake, stay down, man. Don't even twitch a muscle." Beaty didn't twitch, and he is still active in the NBA.



Or this EYE-WITNESS account in an interview in the 90's, and when Chamberlain was 59 years old?

http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm


Host Chris_MSNBC2 says:
M3 says:
Question for Wilt...watched you bench press about 465 lbs like it was a match stick at the Stanford gym when you were working out there for some reason...how much can you still push up?

Host Wilt_Chamberlain says:
Well, probably I can push up a little more than that right now, because I was bench pressing some great weights. I was a shot-putter and lifting weights was a great joy to me. I liked to show off, I don't do that anymore, but I could probably bench press more than 465 pounds now."



http://volleyball.org/people/wilt_chamberlain.html


"From Pat Powers, 1984 Olympic Volleyball Gold Medalist, 10/14/99 -
A lot has been written about Wilt the last several days here in So Cal. He is receiving more attention now than he has for the last fifteen years--he would have preferred it this way, Wilt was never one for the spotlight off the court.

Here are two stories that I just attached names to yesterday:

One day big Wilty (a notorious card cheater) was playing a game off VB down at Muscle Beach in Santa Monica. To say Wilty was competitve in all sports would be a minor understatement. An argument broke out over the correct score and Wilty was not giving ground to anybody on the court. One of the players, Amon Lucky, made the mistake of stepping under the net to further the point, when Wilty picked him up and threw him over the net!!! Now understand the "Amer" weighs something on the order of 225lbs, so the rumor is Wilty "taped"him on the throw over. needless to say Wilty won the argument, and if memory serves me correct, the game.

Wilty was one of the strongest guys I have ever seen. I once was sitting on the steel fence at Rosecrans taking in the Rosecrans open with Wilt and several cohorts back in the late 70's. A player from Muscle Beach was standing beneath us and told us he was going to walk around so he could come join us up on the rail. Wilty told him there was "no no reason to walk," and reached down and picked him up by one arm and hoisted him over the bar. Mike weighed ~240lbs!!!

I have been around some athletes in my day. But nobody and I mean nobody was stronger than Wilty. He was a man's man!!! "



In Robert Cherry's book on Chamberlain, how about this? [Page 375] "One such buddy was Fluke Fluker, whom Wilt had first met when both worked out at the Mid-Valley Racquetball Club in the early nineties. "The first thing people saw about Wilt and me is that we're big, we're black, and we're athletic. And they end their definition there." Fluker said. "It may have been one of the things that brought us together. We both hated the image of the dumb, black athlete." Fluker, a 6'5" and about 250 lbs, claims that he can bench press 500 lbs. Even he was amassed at Wilt's strength. "The man could curl a 100 lb. dumbbell as easy as I can lift a telephone receiver."


How about this...

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/stop-understimating-ufc-fighters-strength-because-body-shape-745999/index6.html


I appreciate your comments. Remember, however, that long limbs do not mean you can't bench press excellent poundages. Wilt Chamberlain, the 7' 2" skinny elite basketball player had very poor mechanical advantages for the bench press. His chest was flat, and his arms were skinny and really long! Nonetheless, he was able to bench press 500 lbs! Nobody would believe this by looking at him. His bench press figures have been verified and are widely known. You can find documentation of it on the web. He just happened to have freakishly dense muscles, and excellent genetics when it came to all the other factors that result in brute strength.

Go ahead and just GOOGLE Wilt's bench press, and get back to me. The internet is PLASTERED with articles claiming Wilt had a 500+ lb. bench press. And, BTW, find me ONE LEGITIMATE FIRST HAND account that DISPUTES those.

[Whoah10115]

I've no doubt Wilt could bench over 400lbs. It's not that big a deal.



But Shaq has to be the strongest player ever. No question.

[NumberSix]

Basketball Rule #1:

Whenever Wilt Chamberlain does something, it doesn't count.

Example:

Guy #1: Wilt Chamberlain benched 500lbs

Guy#2: Doesn't count

Guy #1: Why?

Guy #2: Short White guys

[jlauber]

I've no doubt Wilt could bench over 400lbs. It's not that big a deal.



But Shaq has to be the strongest player ever. No question.

I believe I read somewhere here that Robert Parish, who played against both Shaq and Gilmore, claimed that Gilmore was stronger. Maybe someone can verify.

[blablabla]

also alonzo malone and ben gordon

[jlauber]

Basketball Rule #1:

Whenever Wilt Chamberlain does something, it doesn't count.

Example:

Guy #1: Wilt Chamberlain benched 500lbs

Guy#2: Doesn't count

Guy #1: Why?

Guy #2: Short White guys

:roll: :roll: :roll:

:applause:

[Eric Cartman]

Basketball Rule #1:

Whenever Wilt Chamberlain does something, it doesn't count.

Example:

Guy #1: Wilt Chamberlain benched 500lbs

Guy#2: Doesn't count

Guy #1: Why?

Guy #2: Short White guys


Wilt today = Prime Shaq.

[swi7ch]

My vote goes to Pau Gasol.

[bmulls]

You obviously have done NO research.

How about this SI article in '64, and long before Wilt peaked.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1075691/2/index.htm



Or this EYE-WITNESS account in an interview in the 90's, and when Chamberlain was 59 years old?

http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm



http://volleyball.org/people/wilt_chamberlain.html



In Robert Cherry's book on Chamberlain, how about this? [Page 375] "One such buddy was Fluke Fluker, whom Wilt had first met when both worked out at the Mid-Valley Racquetball Club in the early nineties. "The first thing people saw about Wilt and me is that we're big, we're black, and we're athletic. And they end their definition there." Fluker said. "It may have been one of the things that brought us together. We both hated the image of the dumb, black athlete." Fluker, a 6'5" and about 250 lbs, claims that he can bench press 500 lbs. Even he was amassed at Wilt's strength. "The man could curl a 100 lb. dumbbell as easy as I can lift a telephone receiver."


How about this...

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/stop-understimating-ufc-fighters-strength-because-body-shape-745999/index6.html



Go ahead and just GOOGLE Wilt's bench press, and get back to me. The internet is PLASTERED with articles claiming Wilt had a 500+ lb. bench press. And, BTW, find me ONE LEGITIMATE FIRST HAND account that DISPUTES those.

Find me ONE LEGITIMATE PICTURE OR VIDEO that PROVES this. Sorry, any article where the author spells "amazed" as "amassed" doesn't impress me.

Again, you obviously don't lift weights, otherwise you would realize how ridiculous that claim is. 500lbs is an absolutely monster bench press. I compete in bodybuilding and have lifted for 7+ years in many different gyms. I have never seen anybody bench even close to 500lbs. I watched the OU football team lift daily for 2 semesters. None of them could bench 500, and only the biggest, heaviest linemen would even try 405.


EDIT:

Also, do you realize the WORLD RECORD bench press in 1959 was 565 lbs. Do you honestly think Wilt Chamberlain was among the worlds strongest men? :facepalm

[jlauber]

Find me ONE LEGITIMATE PICTURE OR VIDEO that PROVES this. Sorry, any article where the author spells "amazed" as "amassed" doesn't impress me.

Again, you obviously don't lift weights, otherwise you would realize how ridiculous that claim is. 500lbs is an absolutely monster bench press. I compete in bodybuilding and have lifted for 7+ years in many different gyms. I have never seen anybody bench even close to 500lbs. I watched the OU football team lift daily for 2 semesters. None of them could bench 500, and only the biggest, heaviest linemen would even try 405.


EDIT:

Also, do you realize the WORLD RECORD bench press in 1959 was 565 lbs. Do you honestly think Wilt Chamberlain was among the worlds strongest men? :facepalm

Most certainly YES. Watch the YouTube footage of a Cosell interview with Ali and Chamberlain. In it he states that Wilt might be the strongest man in the world.

BTW, the entire Steeler offensive line reportedly was benching 500+ lbs in the early 70's (albeit it was obviously steroid-aided.)

[RRR3]

Shaq is pretty easily the strongest NBA player ever IMO. Who else brought the whole basket down the way he did? It's one thing to shatter the glass, but Shaq ****ing ripped the whole thing out of the foundation! :bowdown: IIRC the NBA strengthened the hoops after Shaq did it a few times.

[Kblaze8855]

Rafael Araujo is the raptor who was benching 500 pounds a while back.

[chazzy]

ben gordon
What?! :lol

[blablabla]

What?! :lol
http://www.blog-city.info/en/img3/3938_gordon6_050809.jpg
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/420/301/080627_Gordon.widec_display_image.jpg?1288928128

he's one of the stronger smaller guys in the nba

[Cowboy Thunder]

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee350/Jarg007/joey_graham_1.jpg

OSU used to be so good at hoops :cry:

[NumberSix]

Shaq is pretty easily the strongest NBA player ever IMO. Who else brought the whole basket down the way he did? It's one thing to shatter the glass, but Shaq ****ing ripped the whole thing out of the foundation! :bowdown: IIRC the NBA strengthened the hoops after Shaq did it a few times.
That's more a matter of weight+strength than just pure strength.

[Burgz]

He only weighs 230 pounds. Pound for ppound he might be the strongest, but no way would he overall be the strongest compared to alot of dudes who weigh near 300 pounds. No way is he stronger than Al Jefferson, Zaza Patchulia, Dwight Howard, Nikola Pekovic, or Kendrick Perkins. All those dudes can push a car or pull a truck or lift bigger stones than Joey Graham.

he could lift more than anyone in the NBA at one point im not a bodybuilder but im pretty sure that makes him pretty much stronger than them

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Real talk, I heard DJ Mbenga was strong as f*ck.

Larry Johnson was too

[Deuce Bigalow]

Chamberlain, Gilmore, and Shaq...in probably any order, although there were those that claimed that Wilt was benching over 500 lbs. Ben Wallace also reportedly had a 450 bench, but he was considerably shorter, with much shorter arms.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
another tall tail from this f@gg0t

[Burgz]

pound for pound earl boykins used to be the strongest

[millwad]

Most certainly YES. Watch the YouTube footage of a Cosell interview with Ali and Chamberlain. In it he states that Wilt might be the strongest man in the world.


How the hell does Cossell know that? Your claims are getting more and more pathetic..

Oh, because a journalist said so it must be true..:facepalm

You're so pathetic.

[Deuce Bigalow]

You obviously have done NO research.

How about this SI article in '64, and long before Wilt peaked.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1075691/2/index.htm



Or this EYE-WITNESS account in an interview in the 90's, and when Chamberlain was 59 years old?

http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm

http://volleyball.org/people/wilt_chamberlain.html



In Robert Cherry's book on Chamberlain, how about this? [Page 375] "One such buddy was Fluke Fluker, whom Wilt had first met when both worked out at the Mid-Valley Racquetball Club in the early nineties. "The first thing people saw about Wilt and me is that we're big, we're black, and we're athletic. And they end their definition there." Fluker said. "It may have been one of the things that brought us together. We both hated the image of the dumb, black athlete." Fluker, a 6'5" and about 250 lbs, claims that he can bench press 500 lbs. Even he was amassed at Wilt's strength. "The man could curl a 100 lb. dumbbell as easy as I can lift a telephone receiver."


How about this...

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/stop-understimating-ufc-fighters-strength-because-body-shape-745999/index6.html



Go ahead and just GOOGLE Wilt's bench press, and get back to me. The internet is PLASTERED with articles claiming Wilt had a 500+ lb. bench press. And, BTW, find me ONE LEGITIMATE FIRST HAND account that DISPUTES those.
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[chazzy]

http://www.blog-city.info/en/img3/3938_gordon6_050809.jpg
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/420/301/080627_Gordon.widec_display_image.jpg?1288928128

he's one of the stronger smaller guys in the nba
That's not THAT much weight :lol I thought you meant strongest overall

[millwad]

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Funny thing is, we hear ALL these "accomplishments" but not even one was ever filmed, photographed, recorded etc..

All we ever hear is what someone else said, I've had it with these idiotic quotes..:facepalm

I'm "amassed" that people still fall for this crap.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Funny thing is, we hear ALL these "accomplishments" but not even one was ever filmed, photographed, recorded etc..

All we ever hear is what someone else said, I've had it with these idiotic quotes..:facepalm

I'm "amassed" that people still fall for this crap.
I know I'm sick of the tall tales :facepalm

500 lb bench press
curls 100 lb dumbells as easy as we pick up a phone
50" vertical

then all the blaming of his teammates for each loss :facepalm

[sunsfan1357]

That's not THAT much weight :lol I thought you meant strongest overall
100# DBs on incline bench actually is a decent amount.

And I used to believe in the tales of Wilt benching 500, then you actually start to follow things like powerlifting or bodybuilding and start to lift yourself and realize someone with Wilt's frame/long ass arms probably never got close to that.

[Burgz]

wilt was known for his tall tales

NBA record in fables

[chazzy]

100# DBs on incline bench actually is a decent amount.

For a guard, yeah. But that's nothing for a lot of big men in the league

[Kblaze8855]

Funny thing is, we hear ALL these "accomplishments" but not even one was ever filmed, photographed, recorded etc..

99% of his games arent even filmed/availiable to watch why the hell would he be filmed in a weight room?

Why would anyone? What evidence is there that anyone in the NBA can bench even 300 pounds? Ive never actually seen Boykins, Shaq, or Ben Wallace do it.

Last NBA player I saw lift weights....it was probably Karl Malone or Larry Johnson. And it wasnt much.

You expecting proof from 40 years ago when we dont have proof of NBA players lifting now is less reasonable than a 300 pound man with a history of weight training benching 400+.

[Timmy D for MVP]

P4P Chuck Hayes has to be up there.

[Burgz]

99% of his games arent even filmed/availiable to watch why the hell would he be filmed in a weight room?

Why would anyone? What evidence is there that anyone in the NBA can bench even 300 pounds? Ive never actually seen Boykins, Shaq, or Ben Wallace do it.

Last NBA player I saw lift weights....it was probably Karl Malone or Larry Johnson. And it wasnt much.

You expecting proof from 40 years ago when we dont have proof of NBA players lifting now is less reasonable than a 300 pound man with a history of weight training benching 400+.

the dude said he fought a mountain lion and won...

come on kblaze you're telling me he doesn't embellish just a little bit?

[Kblaze8855]

A lot of the things wilt is supposed to have said ive not heard him say. Last I saw a source for the lion story was some guy who said wilt said that was the source of some scars he had on his back. I have no idea of the nature of that conversation from 30 years ago or if it even happened.

[Burgz]

A lot of the things wilt is supposed to have said ive not heard him say. Last I saw a source for the lion story was some guy who said wilt said that was the source of some scars he had on his back. I have no idea of the nature of that conversation from 30 years ago or if it even happened.

i get your point in that case then.

because otherwise we could say a lot of things are fables because we haven't physically seen them

[sunsfan1357]

For a guard, yeah. But that's nothing for a lot of big men in the league

I wouldn't imagine that he's THAT far behind if he legitimately reps 100#s. Stan Efferding is one of the strongest powerlifters in the world and he reps 210 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dgnHUtzSnQ). I wouldn't think many (if any) NBA players can even approach that. Then again, like kblaze says there really aren't any videos of NBA players lifting which is sort of surprising.

[Kblaze8855]

The not believing doesnt bother me. But reading posts on a lack of video? Its hard to prove most anything in sports from the 50s. But people say shit like "Why didnt anyone record it?" when Tex Winter in an interview says he saw Wilt do a Ft line dunk.

Someone talking about other people being idiots actually asks...why people were not filming a HS kid in a workout in 1954. The gotdman NBA FINALS from that era arent even on youtube but we wonder why a random workout in Kansas in the 50s didnt have a film crew? What...do they think camera phones existed? Even the news was usually radio. The presidential state of the union address didnt even get widespread Tv coverage till the 60s. Radio was king.

But....some film crew is gonna be sent to bum**** Kansas to verify what Tex Winter saw that moved him to get the rules changed on FT attempts allowing jumping in college ball. We know it changed. Ive heard from his mouth the reasons. Asking why it wasnt filmed....one of the most ridiculous things ive ever heard.

I'll believe that wilt could dunk from 18 feet before id expect it to be filmed if he did it in an informal workout in 1954.

[JohnnySic]

I believe I read somewhere here that Robert Parish, who played against both Shaq and Gilmore, claimed that Gilmore was stronger. Maybe someone can verify.
Yeah, Parish said that, but that we pertaining to 20 year old rookie Shaq, not the peak 400 lb+ Shaq that came later.

[blablabla]

That's not THAT much weight :lol I thought you meant strongest overall
no not strongest overall but for his size he looks pretty strong

[Kblaze8855]

If im remembering the quote right Parish said he had not played anyone as strong as Shaq since Gilmore. That wouldnt mean Gilmore was stronger really.

[JohnnySic]

As I recall Parish said that Shaq was "nearly as strong (as Gilmore), but not quite."

[Kblaze8855]

My memory of it isnt clear enough to dispute it. I offer a mug of blue moon and a tip of my hat as I go to bed.

[Tmuston Beltics]

Shaq is pretty easily the strongest NBA player ever IMO. Who else brought the whole basket down the way he did? It's one thing to shatter the glass, but Shaq ****ing ripped the whole thing out of the foundation! :bowdown: IIRC the NBA strengthened the hoops after Shaq did it a few times.

Yesterday at the All-star competition they said that the dunk that brought the basket down was something like 33. I don't know what's that but they said that it's the same power you need to break a human nose? :hammerhead:

[inclinerator]

u dont need that much power to break a human nose

[Pointguard]

A lot of people still associated with the game attest to Wilt's strength. So you have to role with the guys that have stories from of great wonder (from HOFers) around them:


"I still remember the time when one of our strongest men, Gene Conley, decided to fight Chamberlain for the ball. He grabbed it and hung on and Chamberlain just lifted him and ball right up towards the rim."
-- Bill Russell Go up For Glory, p.126.

"Once Wilt got upset with me and dunked the ball so hard it went through the rim with such force that it broke my toe as it hit the floor."
--Johnny Kerr, Tall Tales (by Terry Pluto) p. 237

"One time, when I was with Boston and he was with the Lakers, Happy Hairston and I were about to get in a scrape. All of a sudden, I felt an enormous vise around me. I was 6-7, 235, and Wilt had picked me up and turned me around. He said, 'We're not going to have that stuff.' I said, 'Yes sir.' -- Paul Silas

"He [Wilt] stopped me dead in my tracks with his arm, hugged me and lifted me off the floor with my feet dangling. It scared the hell out of me. When I went to the free-throw line, my legs were still shaking. Wilt was the strongest guy and best athlete ever to play the game." -- KC Jones


Bob Lanier, 6'10", 270, one of the hugest men anywhere, filled out a questionnaire recently that asked him to cite the most memorable moment in his entire athletic career. Lanier wrote: "When Wilt Chamberlain lifted me up and moved me like a coffee cup so he could get a favorable position."



"The greatest play I've ever seen was one of the last games of the 1966-67 season and were playing Baltimore. We [Philadelphia] were going for the best record in NBA history. There was a play earlier in the game where Gus Johnson had dunked one over Wilt. Gus was a very strong player. I weighed 220 pounds, and with one hand Gus could push me out of the lane. The man was a physical specimen [6-foot-6, 230 pounds], all muscle. He loved to dunk and was a very colorful player. When he slammed it on Wilt, he really threw it down, and you could tell that Wilt didn't like it one bit.

Later in the game, Gus was out on the fast break, and the only man between him and the basket was Wilt. He was goin to dunk on Wilt--again. Gus cupped the ball and took off--he had a perfect angle for a slam. Wilt went up and with one hand he grabbed the ball--cleanly! Then he took the ball and shoved it right back into Gus, drilling Gus into the floor with the basketball.
Gus was flattened and they carried him out. It turned out that Gus Johnson was the only player in NBA history to suffer a dislocated shoulder from a blocked shot."
--Billy Cunningham, Tall Tales (by Terry Pluto) p. 236

[jlauber]

A lot of people still associated with the game attest to Wilt's strength. So you have to role with the guys that have stories from of great wonder (from HOFers) around them:


"I still remember the time when one of our strongest men, Gene Conley, decided to fight Chamberlain for the ball. He grabbed it and hung on and Chamberlain just lifted him and ball right up towards the rim."
-- Bill Russell Go up For Glory, p.126.

"Once Wilt got upset with me and dunked the ball so hard it went through the rim with such force that it broke my toe as it hit the floor."
--Johnny Kerr, Tall Tales (by Terry Pluto) p. 237

"One time, when I was with Boston and he was with the Lakers, Happy Hairston and I were about to get in a scrape. All of a sudden, I felt an enormous vise around me. I was 6-7, 235, and Wilt had picked me up and turned me around. He said, 'We're not going to have that stuff.' I said, 'Yes sir.' -- Paul Silas

"He [Wilt] stopped me dead in my tracks with his arm, hugged me and lifted me off the floor with my feet dangling. It scared the hell out of me. When I went to the free-throw line, my legs were still shaking. Wilt was the strongest guy and best athlete ever to play the game." -- KC Jones


Bob Lanier, 6'10", 270, one of the hugest men anywhere, filled out a questionnaire recently that asked him to cite the most memorable moment in his entire athletic career. Lanier wrote: "When Wilt Chamberlain lifted me up and moved me like a coffee cup so he could get a favorable position."



"The greatest play I've ever seen was one of the last games of the 1966-67 season and were playing Baltimore. We [Philadelphia] were going for the best record in NBA history. There was a play earlier in the game where Gus Johnson had dunked one over Wilt. Gus was a very strong player. I weighed 220 pounds, and with one hand Gus could push me out of the lane. The man was a physical specimen [6-foot-6, 230 pounds], all muscle. He loved to dunk and was a very colorful player. When he slammed it on Wilt, he really threw it down, and you could tell that Wilt didn't like it one bit.

Later in the game, Gus was out on the fast break, and the only man between him and the basket was Wilt. He was goin to dunk on Wilt--again. Gus cupped the ball and took off--he had a perfect angle for a slam. Wilt went up and with one hand he grabbed the ball--cleanly! Then he took the ball and shoved it right back into Gus, drilling Gus into the floor with the basketball.
Gus was flattened and they carried him out. It turned out that Gus Johnson was the only player in NBA history to suffer a dislocated shoulder from a blocked shot."
--Billy Cunningham, Tall Tales (by Terry Pluto) p. 236

And you an I both KNOW that there are MANY more. Cunningham was quoted as watching an arm-wresting match between Luke Jackson, who was 6-9 260 lbs, and considered on the strongest men in the NBA, and Wilt. It took a while, but Chamberlain eventually won it. Oh, and BTW, Jackson was using BOTH arms.

Or, how about this...there are photographs of a 70's Thurmond, in which he is built like a current taller Dwight Howard (just massive muscles with blood vessels popping out), and yet, there was never EVER a claim by ANYONE, including Nate himself, who claimed that he was the strongest player at the time. And we all know who was UNIVERSALLY regarded as such.

How about these "tall tales?"

http://volleyball.org/people/wilt_chamberlain.html


From Pat Powers, 1984 Olympic Volleyball Gold Medalist, 10/14/99 -
A lot has been written about Wilt the last several days here in So Cal. He is receiving more attention now than he has for the last fifteen years--he would have preferred it this way, Wilt was never one for the spotlight off the court.

Here are two stories that I just attached names to yesterday:

One day big Wilty (a notorious card cheater) was playing a game off VB down at Muscle Beach in Santa Monica. To say Wilty was competitve in all sports would be a minor understatement. An argument broke out over the correct score and Wilty was not giving ground to anybody on the court. One of the players, Amon Lucky, made the mistake of stepping under the net to further the point, when Wilty picked him up and threw him over the net!!! Now understand the "Amer" weighs something on the order of 225lbs, so the rumor is Wilty "taped"him on the throw over. needless to say Wilty won the argument, and if memory serves me correct, the game.

Wilty was one of the strongest guys I have ever seen. I once was sitting on the steel fence at Rosecrans taking in the Rosecrans open with Wilt and several cohorts back in the late 70's. A player from Muscle Beach was standing beneath us and told us he was going to walk around so he could come join us up on the rail. Wilty told him there was "no no reason to walk," and reached down and picked him up by one arm and hoisted him over the bar. Mike weighed ~240lbs!!!

I have been around some athletes in my day. But nobody and I mean nobody was stronger than Wilty. He was a man's man!!!



Or this one...

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain


Several years after Wilt stopped playing, he toyed with the idea of a comeback. On the day he visited the Knicks' offices in Madison Square Garden, he talked to Red Holzman, then strode out to the elevator. When it opened, two deliverymen were struggling with a dolly piled high with boxes of office supplies, mostly letterheads and envelopes. The load was so heavy, the elevator had stopped maybe four inches below the floor level and now the deliverymen were huffing and puffing, but they couldn't raise the dolly high enough to get it on the floor level. After maybe two minutes of the deliverymen's huffing and puffing, Wilt, his biceps bulging in a tank top, peered down at them and intoned, "Gentlemen, maybe I can help." They stepped back, he stepped into the elevator, grabbed each end of the rope slung under the dolly and without much exertion, quickly lifted the dolly onto the floor level. Looking up in awe, the deliverymen said, "Thank you." Wilt said, "You're welcome." Wilt stepped into the elevator and rode down to the street level as another witness followed the two deliverymen toward the Knick offices and asked, "How much does all this weigh?" They quickly surveyed the stack of big boxes of office supplies. "Close to 600 pounds," one said.
The Good Natured Giant Wasn't Belligerent, Sports of the Times; Oct 13, 1999; Dave Anderson


Here again, I could supply page-after-page of these eye-witness accounts. But what is interesting, is where are those that were actually around in the Wilt-era, who would DISPUTE them.

[CavaliersFTW]

Yeah, Parish said that, but that we pertaining to 20 year old rookie Shaq, not the peak 400 lb+ Shaq that came later.

:facepalm

Shaq never quite weighed "400+"

303lb rookie <--- young, agile Shaq

327lb '00-'01 training camp <---- this is "peak" Shaq.

Highest documented weight he ever hit was 368 after he became a lazy **** during an injury. <-- this is lazy fatass Shaq

and 350lb was recorded coming into the '09-'10 (off-season) <--- this is "aged" Shaq

Aside from his dramatic weight gain from an injury his weight curve gradually increased from 300-350lbs over the course of his career...

[lbj23clutch]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-j5Jlf0t8fxE/ThkzwQRsTWI/AAAAAAAAAa8/Q0k2W47C_BM/s1600/Lebron_james_Cavaliers.jpg

6'8 and there was even rumors that he weighed in at 274 at one point. Though realistically I think he's about 260.

Not the strongest ever, but probably the strongest perimeter player ever in terms of pure strength(not weight lifting) and one of the strongest players today.

I remember reading somewhere, I think it was SLAM, saying that LeBron didn't start regularly lifting weights till the 05-06' season. Which is pretty amazing because you would think a guy that strong would be hitting the weight room already.

[gyu]

http://www.blog-city.info/en/img3/3938_gordon6_050809.jpg
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/420/301/080627_Gordon.widec_display_image.jpg?1288928128

he's one of the stronger smaller guys in the nba
Yup, him and Fisher are the most jacked guards in the league.

[gyu]

I don't mean to offend kblaze or jlauber but I don't believe Wilt's strength. If you lift weights regularly, especially weights that put you arguably as the strongest man in the world, you would develop some kind of muscular build but I just don't see it with Wilt.

[no pun intended]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SguBaDSLFd0

Milicic.

/thread

[WhySoInsecure?]

I don't mean to offend kblaze or jlauber but I don't believe Wilt's strength. If you lift weights regularly, especially weights that put you arguably as the strongest man in the world, you would develop some kind of muscular build but I just don't see it with Wilt.
He looks lanky only because he's 7' tall.

http://turnernbaallball.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/wilt-chamberlain-500.jpg

http://www.sportsclb.com/wp-content/uploads/how-can-i-get-taller-wilt-chamberlain-arnold-andre-the-giant.jpg

http://espn.go.com/media/classic/2000/1205/photo/c_claker_i.jpg

[La Frescobaldi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SguBaDSLFd0

Milicic.

/thread

where he's from that's a sign of mourning...... they must be losing bad :lol

Chamberlain's the strongest I've seen in the NBA by far, not even close. That guy just picked up a guy off the floor with one hand like he was a loaf of bread. Amazing.

But another guy who I didn't see on here was Chocolate Thunder.... dude was strong

[WhySoInsecure?]

http://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/wilt-chamberlain-arnold-schwarzanegger-andre-giant.jpg

[jlauber]

I am short on time, so I won't look up the post, but PHILA produced some photos of Chamberlain which show a far more impressive physique. Hopefully he reads this, and digs them up for the benefit of those that haven't viewed them yet.

[gyu]

What about Shaq though? He was really lanky coming out of high school but in the NBA you can still tell he had a somewhat muscular build even in his fatter years.
Dwight's only 1-2 inches short of 7 feet and you can tell he has a muscular build. Same goes for David Robinson, and Karl Malone (again, I don't see a few inches making a huge difference)

[CavaliersFTW]

His limbs are extremely long - longer than, Shaq's or Kareem's even though they are of similar height - which makes his mass deceiving.

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/conan-lift.jpg
In this specific image Wilt is is 48 years old, exactly 327lbs, and works out with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/08/article-2023772-0D59B16C00000578-860_468x658.jpg
In this specific image Shaq is 39 years old, no less than 360lbs, and smokes weed with Hoopz.

Who's the stronger athlete?

[CavaliersFTW]

What about Shaq though? He was really lanky coming out of high school but in the NBA you can still tell he had a somewhat muscular build even in his fatter years.
Dwight's only 1-2 inches short of 7 feet and you can tell he has a muscular build. Same goes for David Robinson, and Karl Malone (again, I don't see a few inches making a huge difference)

Dwight is 6'9
www.draftexpress.com/measurements

[arifgokcen]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-j5Jlf0t8fxE/ThkzwQRsTWI/AAAAAAAAAa8/Q0k2W47C_BM/s1600/Lebron_james_Cavaliers.jpg

6'8 and there was even rumors that he weighed in at 274 at one point. Though realistically I think he's about 260.

Not the strongest ever, but probably the strongest perimeter player ever in terms of pure strength(not weight lifting) and one of the strongest players today.

I remember reading somewhere, I think it was SLAM, saying that LeBron didn't start regularly lifting weights till the 05-06' season. Which is pretty amazing because you would think a guy that strong would be hitting the weight room already.

He is certainly the strongest wing men ever i think right now he weighs 266lbs.I remember it from an article this summer.Actually howard is around 6'9.5 realistically and around 270-275lbs.I am sure lebron is not the strongest player ever.However he maybe the strongest player today including centers.(only centers i suspect is stronger is pekovic and bynum)

[gyu]

Dwight is 6'9
www.draftexpress.com/measurements
He was straight out of high school at the time, he's at least grown 1 inch since then. Again, 3 inches will not make a HUGE difference.

Also, I wasn't specifically referring to Shaq 1 year out of retirement, more like Miami Heat or LA Lakers Shaq.
Also Wilt had almost identical measurements as Shaq, if you're skinny it just looks like you have longer limbs.

Shaq 7'7" wing span, 9'5" standing reach
Wilt 7'8" wing span 9'6" standing reach

[Deuce Bigalow]

:oldlol: Wilt is not even close dumbass old geezers :facepalm

http://reagangirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/old-man-at-computer.jpg

[Kblaze8855]

I don't mean to offend kblaze or jlauber but I don't believe Wilt's strength. If you lift weights regularly, especially weights that put you arguably as the strongest man in the world, you would develop some kind of muscular build but I just don't see it with Wilt.


Not really. huge people are just naturally gonna be more strong. by the time he had been in weights for a long time he was over 7'1'' 300+ pounds of nothing but muscle. He was lean...but most basketball players are. Even guys who look muscular.

http://0.tqn.com/d/prowrestling/1/G/8/9/-/-/nwo.jpg

Karl Malone looks near birdchested when you catch him next to people who just....try to develop huge builds.

A 300 pound athlete who has been lifting weights for 20 years is just...going to be strong. And a huge guy like that is gonna be a lot stronger than a normal sized guy.

I dont know what wilt could bench. But I dont know why the people who came out around his death would just pull numbers out of their asses. Ive yet to see ben wallace or Shaq or any of these huge guys with long arms that would supposedly keep them from being too strong bench wise even attempt to lift anything. But I dont have trouble believing they get over 400.

Ive seen HS kids do near that. Doesnt suprise me that huge adult athletes who are known to work out a lot can.

A lot of the idea that they cant is people assuming without any actual evidence which is the same thing they say should make people not believe the opposite.

When I see one of them try and fail ill say they cant. I have no evidence against it at all.

Ive seen Wilt push around this guy:

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5803/h9612058edit.jpg

Ive heard nate talk about Wilt being the strongest guy he played(nate has a surprising number of long interviews online...he works with the Warriors a lot). And Nate does not strike me as someone prone to bullshit to make someone look better than him.

Im nto saying I think Wilt wins some worlds strongest man contest. But the things he could do just by being so huge and exceptional in the 50s-70s would likely make him the strongest man a lot of people had ever seen.

Where does someone go in 1964 to see someone stronger than Wilt? Youtube? The news? People saw what they saw before theirs eyes. Unless Andre the Giant came through in the 70s Wilt was probably the most massive and strong person most people of the time ever saw.

[CavaliersFTW]

He was straight out of high school at the time, he's at least grown 1 inch since then. Again, 3 inches will not make a HUGE difference.

Also, I wasn't specifically referring to Shaq 1 year out of retirement, more like Miami Heat or LA Lakers Shaq.
Also Wilt had almost identical measurements as Shaq, if you're skinny it just looks like you have longer limbs.

Shaq 7'7" wing span, 9'5" standing reach
Wilt 7'8" wing span 9'6" standing reach

IIRC In 2008 (4 years later) he was measured either 6'9 or 6'9.25 - most athletes probably do grow since high school, but only by a smidge (like... decimals of an inch), very few grow by a lot (1 or more inches) - and some will not grow at all. Nobody has to grow at least an inch after high school. I actually don't think I grew at all after high school aside from filling out. Doesn't seem like Dwight grew either, he and Hakeem working out together on youtube talk about being "undersized" centers... seeing as how the average barefoot height of an NBA center is about 6'10.4", his talk of being undersized indicates he's still markedly shorter than that.

He's strong for his height I'll say that. But ~6'9 and 240 is way smaller than Wilt's 7'1.06 and 258, or Shaq's 7'0.88" and 303lb draft measurements.

And all of them packed on weight afterwards, year for year Dwight never weighed within 15lbs of Wilt much less Shaq.

Dwight
240 (2004)
265 (2008)
280 (2011)

Wilt
258 (1959)
320 (1963 off season)
292 (1964 regular season)
300+ (1970's Lakers)

Shaq
303lbs (1994) - very athletic
327lbs (2001) - kinda fat but very athletic
368lbs (2000's) extremely fat due to an injury
350lbs (2009) old fat veteran

[gyu]

Not really. huge people are just naturally gonna be more strong. by the time he had been in weights for a long time he was over 7'1'' 300+ pounds of nothing but muscle. He was lean...but most basketball players are. Even guys who look muscular.

http://0.tqn.com/d/prowrestling/1/G/8/9/-/-/nwo.jpg

Karl Malone looks near birdchested when you catch him next to people who just....try to develop huge builds.

A 300 pound athlete who has been lifting weights for 20 years is just...going to be strong. And a huge guy like that is gonna be a lot stronger than a normal sized guy.

I dont know what wilt could bench. But I dont know why the people who came out around his death would just pull numbers out of their asses. Ive yet to see ben wallace or Shaq or any of these huge guys with long arms that would supposedly keep them from being too strong bench wise even attempt to lift anything. But I dont have trouble believing they get over 400.

Ive seen HS kids do near that. Doesnt suprise me that huge adult athletes who are known to work out a lot can.

A lot of the idea that they cant is people assuming without any actual evidence which is the same thing they say should make people not believe the opposite.

When I see one of them try and fail ill say they cant. I have no evidence against it at all.

Ive seen Wilt push around this guy:

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5803/h9612058edit.jpg

Ive heard nate talk about Wilt being the strongest guy he played(nate has a surprising number of long interviews online...he works with the Warriors a lot). And Nate does not strike me as someone prone to bullshit to make someone look better than him.

Im nto saying I think Wilt wins some worlds strongest man contest. But the things he could do just by being so huge and exceptional in the 50s-70s would likely make him the strongest man a lot of people had ever seen.

Where does someone go in 1964 to see someone stronger than Wilt? Youtube? The news? People saw what they saw before theirs eyes. Unless Andre the Giant came through in the 70s Wilt was probably the most massive and strong person most people of the time ever saw.
Don't let vascularity fool you though, I don't know what Nate's weight was in his peak but he's only listed at 225 so it would be no surprise that Wilt would be able to bully him in the paint.
For example, Yi is a really vascular guy because he's so lean but most would agree he's not strong:
http://www.truthaboutit.net/pictures/2010-11/yi-jianlian-arms.jpg

At CavaliersFTW okay, let's say he's 6'9" then. Makes almost no difference.

Edit: i see you added stuff to your post. Dwight does not weigh 240 anymore, he's around 280.

Edit: just found the link saying he's at 275.
http://www.aolnews.com/2009/09/29/dwight-howard-arrives-to-camp-bigger-expects-to-be-better/

Your argument is that height really does matter. If that's the case, 275 at his height vs 275 at 7'2" makes Dwight stronger than Wilt.

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://www.blacktoptens.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Wilt-Chamberlain-Rim-Action-Photograph-C12874120.jpg

http://jocksandstilettojill.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/shaq-dwight-howard.jpg

[CavaliersFTW]

Don't let vascularity fool you though, I don't know what Nate's weight was in his peak but he's only listed at 225 so it would be no surprise that Wilt would be able to bully him in the paint.
For example, Yi is a really vascular guy because he's so lean but most would agree he's not strong:
http://www.truthaboutit.net/pictures/2010-11/yi-jianlian-arms.jpg

At CavaliersFTW okay, let's say he's 6'9" then. Makes almost no difference.

lol @ 225lbs listed weight....

That's his draft weight :facepalm

www.draftexpress.com/measurements
Is Dwight Howard only 240lbs still? Should we gauge his strength based only on that?

Thurmond is a man that I have no recorded weights for at this time but in the late 60's and early 70's he was a LOT heavier than when he was a rookie. It's incredibly obvious.

Bill Russell is listed 215. But in 1967 he weighed 235, and 240 in the off seasons. Would you know that at all based on his 1958 list weight?

How about Wilt's 250lb rookie list weight (despite weighing 258) and his 275lb mid-career list weight (despite weighing ~290).

list weights = grain of salt. you need more info on players before you can assume their list weight is correct.

[Kblaze8855]

Nate was nothing close to 225. he....like almost all players of his time...was listed by his rookie workout weight his entire career. he was 225 like Dwight and Lebron are 240.

Kareem in his prime could barely move him but he had little trouble with guys like Ewing whe neh was much older. nate was nothing similar to weak. hes lanky as NBA players tend to be. But he had muscle.


http://www.nba.com/warriors/photos/CatchingUp_ThurmondGallery_407.jpg


http://i40.tinypic.com/292xmra.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/264nqy9.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/r1jyuu.jpg

[JohnnySic]

Shaq never quite weighed "400+"
Yeah, 400 lb was hyperbole but Shaq was a good 350-375 during his peak years. Point being, he got bigger and stronger than as a (relatively) lean rookie.

[CavaliersFTW]

http://www.blacktoptens.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Wilt-Chamberlain-Rim-Action-Photograph-C12874120.jpg

http://jocksandstilettojill.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/shaq-dwight-howard.jpg

:facepalm

As a hobbyist photographer I can tell you definitively that you are once again - a complete idiot :lol

400mm prime lens with a high aperture is distorting your depth of field

Look at where they're standing on the floor for a clue Sherlock. Shaq's a few feet behind Dwight.

http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/bestrealtivesizeillusion.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://www.nba-pictures.net/data/media/108/Wilt-Chamberlain-2.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8_ENa7sVpug/TNOucfV3SnI/AAAAAAAAPaA/uOX0CufP-zM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+was+congratulated+by+fans+9.jpg

[CavaliersFTW]

http://www.nba-pictures.net/data/media/108/Wilt-Chamberlain-2.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8_ENa7sVpug/TNOucfV3SnI/AAAAAAAAPaA/uOX0CufP-zM/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain+was+congratulated+by+fans+9.jpg

http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20110103/2dd615_shaq_01032011.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04NS2L4dNHeWp/340x.jpg

http://www.anguilla-beaches.com/image-files/shaquille-oneil-anguilla.jpg

http://thatswhatsupnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/shaq-and-hoopz2-361x500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf99osHVM21qguiglo1_400.jpg

U mad! :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20110103/2dd615_shaq_01032011.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04NS2L4dNHeWp/340x.jpg

http://www.anguilla-beaches.com/image-files/shaquille-oneil-anguilla.jpg

http://thatswhatsupnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/shaq-and-hoopz2-361x500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf99osHVM21qguiglo1_400.jpg

U mad! :lol
You think Wilt is the strongest

















:roll:
You delusional?