Wilt's Tall Tales

[Deuce Bigalow]

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- 500 lbs bench press
- 50" vertical
- Curl 100 lb DBs as easily as we can pick up our phones
- Beat up a mountain lion and threw it by its tail
- Slept with 20,000 women, jlauber's mom being one of them
- Dunked his freethrows in high school
- Dunked the ball so hard that it crushed the opponents toes
- Could average 70 points per game in the 90's
- At age 59 he could bench 465 lbs like it was a match stick
- Clean and jerk 435 lbs
- A world class volleyball player, in Volleyball Hall of Fame

[Deuce Bigalow]

anymore?

[Kiarip]

They're probably only slightly if at all exaggerated.

Earl boykins can bench 315 at 140 pounds.

[swi7ch]

anymore? wilt can beat javale mcgee 1v1

[Deuce Bigalow]

They're probably only slightly if at all exaggerated.

Earl boykins can bench 315 at 140 pounds.
lol

[dunksby]

jlauber is coming for you, just pray the Machine pops up you number!

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[PTB Fan]

:roll:

[hkfosho]

Wilt is so overrated.

next

[millwad]

jlauber is coming for you, just pray the Machine pops up you number!

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HAHA! FUTURE REP!

[b1imtf]

http://images.collectors.com/smrweb/smr1206/5980054_Wilt_Chamberlain_76.jpg

- 500 lbs bench press
- 50" vertical
- Curl 100 lb DBs as easily as we can pick up our phones
- Beat up a mountain lion and threw it by its tail
- Slept with 20,000 women, jlauber's mom being one of them
- Dunked his freethrows in high school
- Dunked the ball so hard that it crushed the opponents toes
- Could average 70 points per game in the 90's
- At age 59 he could bench 465 lbs like it was a match stick
- Clean and jerk 435 lbs
Only true statement in the OP

[millwad]

Wilt was a world class volleyball player.

[vert48]

Wilt was a world class volleyball player.That is certainly fantasy.

[asdf1990]

I heard from eye witness sources that one time wilt got angry and threw the ball so hard at the floor that it created a hole.

[Asukal]

Where is jlauber at? Defend your dad from all these haters! :oldlol:

[FireDavidKahn]

They're probably only slightly if at all exaggerated.

Earl boykins can bench 315 at 140 pounds.
"Slightly"

Way to go out on a limb. All of these are extremely exaggerated.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I heard from eye witness sources that one time wilt got angry and threw the ball so hard at the floor that it created a hole.


jlauber is coming for you, just pray the Machine pops up you number!

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:oldlol:

[DKLaker]

http://images.collectors.com/smrweb/smr1206/5980054_Wilt_Chamberlain_76.jpg

- 500 lbs bench press
- 50" vertical
- Curl 100 lb DBs as easily as we can pick up our phones
- Beat up a mountain lion and threw it by its tail
- Slept with 20,000 women, jlauber's mom being one of them
- Dunked his freethrows in high school
- Dunked the ball so hard that it crushed the opponents toes
- Could average 70 points per game in the 90's
- At age 59 he could bench 465 lbs like it was a match stick
- Clean and jerk 435 lbs

All of this is true except the dunking so hard it crushed toes AND could average 70 points per game in the 90's.
I have been around pro athletes since 1960 and was fortunate enough to talk to Wilt many times and even see him work out......he was a phenomenal athlete without any question.

People question the 20,000 women......I can't say if he did it or not but I can say from experience that he could've easily done it if he wanted to and was physically able to perform.
A friend of mine who played pro baseball many years ago was in town for a 3 game series, I was at the team hotel and he asked me to help him get his mail.....I thought it was a stupid request until I saw he had 3 military style duffel bags full of mail. We started opening the mail and it was nothing but nude and half nude photos of women offering to meet him after the game for sex.....I mean incredibly hot women. Sure enough, after the game I saw every one of those chicks waiting for him and calling his name......he said it was like that in every city.....the mail, the women......and even more at home games.
He wasn't even a star player, he was good looking but not like a god.
I saw Wilt with a lot of women. Sex with 20,000......maybe he forgot a few thousand more. If you guys think any of this has changed for athletes today then you are nuts.......it's the same.

[vert48]

All of this is true except the dunking so hard it crushed toes AND could average 70 points per game in the 90's.
I have been around pro athletes since 1960 and was fortunate enough to talk to Wilt many times and even see him work out......he was a phenomenal athlete without any question.

People question the 20,000 women......I can't say if he did it or not but I can say from experience that he could've easily done it if he wanted to and was physically able to perform.
A friend of mine who played pro baseball many years ago was in town for a 3 game series, I was at the team hotel and he asked me to help him get his mail.....I thought it was a stupid request until I saw he had 3 military style duffel bags full of mail. We started opening the mail and it was nothing but nude and half nude photos of women offering to meet him after the game for sex.....I mean incredibly hot women. Sure enough, after the game I saw every one of those chicks waiting for him and calling his name......he said it was like that in every city.....the mail, the women......and even more at home games.
He wasn't even a star player, he was good looking but not like a god.
I saw Wilt with a lot of women. Sex with 20,000......maybe he forgot a few thousand more. If you guys think any of this has changed for athletes today then you are nuts.......it's the same.Someone else listed it, but I know for a fact that he was not a "World Class" volleyball player.

[AngelEyes]

All of this is true except the dunking so hard it crushed toes AND could average 70 points per game in the 90's.
I have been around pro athletes since 1960 and was fortunate enough to talk to Wilt many times and even see him work out......he was a phenomenal athlete without any question.

People question the 20,000 women......I can't say if he did it or not but I can say from experience that he could've easily done it if he wanted to and was physically able to perform.
A friend of mine who played pro baseball many years ago was in town for a 3 game series, I was at the team hotel and he asked me to help him get his mail.....I thought it was a stupid request until I saw he had 3 military style duffel bags full of mail. We started opening the mail and it was nothing but nude and half nude photos of women offering to meet him after the game for sex.....I mean incredibly hot women. Sure enough, after the game I saw every one of those chicks waiting for him and calling his name......he said it was like that in every city.....the mail, the women......and even more at home games.
He wasn't even a star player, he was good looking but not like a god.
I saw Wilt with a lot of women. Sex with 20,000......maybe he forgot a few thousand more. If you guys think any of this has changed for athletes today then you are nuts.......it's the same.

How old are you?

[Deuce Bigalow]

All of this is true except the dunking so hard it crushed toes AND could average 70 points per game in the 90's.
I have been around pro athletes since 1960 and was fortunate enough to talk to Wilt many times and even see him work out......he was a phenomenal athlete without any question.

People question the 20,000 women......I can't say if he did it or not but I can say from experience that he could've easily done it if he wanted to and was physically able to perform.
A friend of mine who played pro baseball many years ago was in town for a 3 game series, I was at the team hotel and he asked me to help him get his mail.....I thought it was a stupid request until I saw he had 3 military style duffel bags full of mail. We started opening the mail and it was nothing but nude and half nude photos of women offering to meet him after the game for sex.....I mean incredibly hot women. Sure enough, after the game I saw every one of those chicks waiting for him and calling his name......he said it was like that in every city.....the mail, the women......and even more at home games.
He wasn't even a star player, he was good looking but not like a god.
I saw Wilt with a lot of women. Sex with 20,000......maybe he forgot a few thousand more. If you guys think any of this has changed for athletes today then you are nuts.......it's the same.
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[FireDavidKahn]

All of this is true except the dunking so hard it crushed toes AND could average 70 points per game in the 90's.
I have been around pro athletes since 1960 and was fortunate enough to talk to Wilt many times and even see him work out......he was a phenomenal athlete without any question.

People question the 20,000 women......I can't say if he did it or not but I can say from experience that he could've easily done it if he wanted to and was physically able to perform.
A friend of mine who played pro baseball many years ago was in town for a 3 game series, I was at the team hotel and he asked me to help him get his mail.....I thought it was a stupid request until I saw he had 3 military style duffel bags full of mail. We started opening the mail and it was nothing but nude and half nude photos of women offering to meet him after the game for sex.....I mean incredibly hot women. Sure enough, after the game I saw every one of those chicks waiting for him and calling his name......he said it was like that in every city.....the mail, the women......and even more at home games.
He wasn't even a star player, he was good looking but not like a god.
I saw Wilt with a lot of women. Sex with 20,000......maybe he forgot a few thousand more. If you guys think any of this has changed for athletes today then you are nuts.......it's the same.
Ya, ok.:oldlol: :rolleyes:

[Asukal]

Hahahaha 20,000 women? You gota bang at least 5-6 a day everyday to make that number. No man is able to do such a thing puhleaz! :hammerhead:

[Knicks101]

All of this is true except the dunking so hard it crushed toes AND could average 70 points per game in the 90's.
I have been around pro athletes since 1960 and was fortunate enough to talk to Wilt many times and even see him work out......he was a phenomenal athlete without any question.

People question the 20,000 women......I can't say if he did it or not but I can say from experience that he could've easily done it if he wanted to and was physically able to perform.
A friend of mine who played pro baseball many years ago was in town for a 3 game series, I was at the team hotel and he asked me to help him get his mail.....I thought it was a stupid request until I saw he had 3 military style duffel bags full of mail. We started opening the mail and it was nothing but nude and half nude photos of women offering to meet him after the game for sex.....I mean incredibly hot women. Sure enough, after the game I saw every one of those chicks waiting for him and calling his name......he said it was like that in every city.....the mail, the women......and even more at home games.
He wasn't even a star player, he was good looking but not like a god.
I saw Wilt with a lot of women. Sex with 20,000......maybe he forgot a few thousand more. If you guys think any of this has changed for athletes today then you are nuts.......it's the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frGLMtGsotc

[dunksby]

Sometimes I doubt Wilt ever existed.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Hahahaha 20,000 women? You gota bang at least 5-6 a day everyday to make that number. No man is able to do such a thing puhleaz! :hammerhead:
Chamberlain lived 63 years
63 years = 23,010 days (with the leap years)

You could start at age 12
So he could bang for 51 years (age 12-63)
51 years = 18,627 days

He would have to bang 1.07371021 women per day

[millwad]

Can't understand why anyone actually would defend Wilt's dick on a forum...:facepalm

[SilkkTheShocker]

I heard he had to duct tape his c0ck to his leg so it wouldn't fall out of his shorts when playing

[CelticBaller]

I heard he ate a horse
Outswam and a shark...and then killed it
dunked on the moon

[jlauber]

Dunce Bungalow at his finest:


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- 500 lbs bench press Most certainly true
- 50" vertical We have VIDEO of a Chamberlain block in which his fingertips are nearly at the top of the backboard. We also have TWO eyewitnesses, including Sonny Hill who claims to have SEEN him touch the top of the backboard.
- Curl 100 lb DBs as easily as we can pick up our phones. Not a quote by WILT, but rather a well known weight-lifter who worked out with Chamberlain.
- Beat up a mountain lion and threw it by its tail. I could not care less, and here again, that was NOT a direct quote from Wilt.
- Slept with 20,000 women, jlauber's mom being one of them. Very Funny. Those that KNEW Wilt would attest to the fact that he had MANY women. BTW, YOUR mom probably regrets sleeping with whomever fathered her child
- Dunked his freethrows in high school. Yes, witnessed by none other than TEX WINTER. The NCAA and NBA banned the dunking of FTs because of WILT.
- Dunked the ball so hard that it crushed the opponents toes. Here again, NOT a quote by WILT, but rather from the player HIMSELF (Johnny Kerr.)
-Could average 70 points per game in the 90's. Not only Wilt, but HOFer WALT FRAZIER (who said that Wilt would average 75 in today's game.
- At age 59 he could bench 465 lbs like it was a match stick. EYE-WITNESS account and in a radio INTERVIEW with the witness.
- Clean and jerk 435 lbs. Might have been. There is an article which claimed that he could do 375, and that was long before he became the massive man he would become.
- A world class volleyball player. Again, NOT a WILT quote, BUT, it is interesting that Wilt played with 1984 USA Gold Medal captain Pat Powers, AND, Chamberlain is in the Volleyball HOF.

[jlauber]

Some more Wilt "myths":

[QUOTE]NBA scoring records
Sign commemorating Chamberlain's 100-point game at Hershey, PennsylvaniaNBA Record - Most Points Per Game in a season (50.4 in the 1961-62 season)
Chamberlain also holds the next two highest with 44.8 in 1962-63 and 38.4 in 1960-61.

NBA Record - Most Points in a season (4,029 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the next highest with 3,586 in 1960-61

NBA Record - Most Points Scored in a Game (100 vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)

NBA Record - Most Points Scored in a Half (59 in the 2nd half vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)

NBA Record - Most 50 Point Games in a season (45 times in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the next most with 30 in 1962-63. No other player has had more than 10. Only Michael Jordan (39 including playoffs) and Kobe Bryant (25 including playoffs) have more than 20 in their careers.

NBA Record - Most 40 Point Games in a season (63 times in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the next most with 52 in 1962-63. Michael Jordan is third with 37 in 1986-87.

NBA Record - Most Consecutive Seasons Leading League in Points Per Game (7)
Record shared with Michael Jordan.

NBA Record - Most Career Regular Season 60 Point Games (32 times)
Kobe Bryant is in second place with 5.

NBA Record - Most Career Regular Season 50 Point Games (118 times)
Michael Jordan is in second place with 31.

NBA Record - Most Career Regular Season 40 Point Games (271 times)[10]
Michael Jordan is in second place with 173.

NBA Record - Most Consecutive 50 Point Games (7 from December 16, 1961-December 29, 1961)

Chamberlain also holds the next three longest streaks with 6 in 1962, and 5 in 1961 and 1962.

NBA Record - Most Consecutive 40 Point Games (14 from December 8, 1961-December 30, 1961 and January 11, 1962-February 1, 1962)
Chamberlain also has the next most with 10 from November 9, 1962 through November 25, 1962.

NBA Record - Most Consecutive 30 Point Games (65 from November 4, 1961-February 22, 1962)
Chamberlain holds the next two longest streaks with 31 in 1962 and 25 in 1960.

NBA Record - Most Consecutive 20 Point Games (126 from October 19, 1961-January 19, 1963)
Chamberlain holds the next most with 92 from February 26, 1963 through March 18, 1964.

NBA Record - Most points per game by a rookie (37.6 in 1959-60)

NBA Record - Most points by a rookie (2,707 in 1959-60)

NBA Record - Most points by a rookie in a game (58 on January 25, 1960 and February 21, 1960)

NBA Record - Fewest Games Played to Reach 20,000 Points (499 achieved in 1966)
Michael Jordan, at 620 games, took the second fewest games.

NBA Record - Fewest Games Played to Reach 25,000 Points (691, achieved on February 23, 1968 against the Detroit Pistons)
Michael Jordan, at 782 games, took the second fewest games.

NBA Record - Fewest Games Played to Reach 30,000 Points (941, achieved on February 16, 1972 against the Phoenix Suns)

NBA Record - Most consecutive seasons leading the league in field goals made (7 from 1959-60 through 1965-66)
Shared with Michael Jordan

NBA Record - Most Field Goals Made in a season (1,597 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the next 3 spots with 1,463 in 1962-63, 1,251 in 1960-61, and 1,204 in 1963-64

NBA Record - Most Field Goals Attempted in a season (3,159 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain holds the next four highest with 2,770, 2,457, 2,311, and 2,298.

NBA Record - Most Field Goals Made in a Game (36 vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)
Chamberlain holds the next highest with 31, and is tied with Rick Barry at third with 30

NBA Record - Most Field Goals Attempted in a Game (63 vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)
Chamberlain holds the next two most with 62 and 60.

NBA Record - Most Field Goals Made in a Half (22 in the 2nd half vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)

NBA Record - Most Field Goals Attempted in a Half (37 vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962 (2nd half)

NBA Record - Most Field Goals Attempted in a Quarter (21 in the 4th quarter vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)

NBA Record - Most Free Throws Made in a Game (28 vs. the New York Knicks on March 2, 1962)
Record shared with Adrian Dantley

NBA Record - Most seasons leading the NBA in free throw attempts (9)

NBA Record - Most consecutive seasons leading the NBA in free throw attempts (6 from 1959-60 through 1964-65)

NBA Record - Most Free Throws Attempted in a season (1,363 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain also holds the next four spots with 1,113, 1,054, 1,016, and 991.

NBA Playoff Record - Most points by a rookie in a game (53 vs. the Syracuse Nationals on March 14, 1960)
Pulled down a rookie playoff record 35 rebounds in the same game.
Chamberlain also scored 50 as a rookie against the Boston Celtics on March 22, 1960.

NBA Playoff Record - Most field goals in a seven game series (113 vs. the St. Louis Hawks in 1964)

NBA Playoff Record - Most field goals in a game (24 vs. the Syracuse Nationals on March 14, 1960)
Record shared with John Havlicek and Michael Jordan

NBA Playoff Record - Most field goal attempts in a game (48 vs. the Syracuse Nationals on March 22, 1962)
Record shared with Rick Barry

NBA Playoff Record - Most field goal attempts in a half (25 vs. the Syracuse Nationals on March 22, 1962)
Record shared with Elgin Baylor and Michael Jordan

NBA Playoff Record - Most field goal attempts in a three game series (104 vs. the Syracuse Nationals in 1960)

NBA Playoff Record - Most field goal attempts in a five game series (159 vs. the Syracuse Nationals in 1962)

NBA All-Star Game Record - Points in a game (42 in 1962)

NBA All-Star Game Record - Field goals in a game (17 in 1962)
Record shared with Michael Jordan and Kevin Garnett

NBA All-Star Game Record - Field goals in a half (10 in 1962)

NBA All-Star Game Record - Free throw attempts in a game (16 in 1962)
Chamberlain also holds the second most attempts in an All-Star Game with 15 in 1960.

[edit] Other selected scoring facts2nd highest career scoring average (30.07)

[jlauber]

Still more Wilt "myths":


NBA rebounding recordsSee also: List of National Basketball Association top individual rebounding season averages
See also: List of National Basketball Association top rookie rebounding averages
See also: List of National Basketball Association players with most rebounds in a game

NBA Record - Career Total Rebounds (23,924)

NBA Record - Career Rebounds Per Game (22.9)

NBA Record - Most seasons leading the league in rebounds (11)

NBA Record - Most seasons with 1,000 or more rebounds (13)

NBA Record - Rebounds Per Game in a season (27.2)
Chamberlain also holds the next two highest averages with 27.0 in 1959-60 and 25.7 in 1961-62)
Chamberlain and Bill Russell occupy the top 18 spots on this list (9 each).

NBA Record - Total Rebounds in a season (2,149 in 1960-1961)
Chamberlain also holds the next six highest totals.

NBA Record - Rebounds in a game (55, Philadelphia Warriors vs. Boston Celtics, November 24, 1960)
Besides Bill Russell (11 times, including 3 playoff games, max of 51) only two players, Nate Thurmond (42) and Jerry Lucas (40) have ever gotten at least 40.

NBA Record - Most rebounds per game by a rookie in a season (27.0)

NBA Record - Most rebounds by a rookie in a season (1941)

NBA Record - Most rebounds by a rookie in a game (45 on February 6, 1960)
Chamberlain, as a rookie, also grabbed 43 rebounds in one game, 42 in two others, and 40 in another.

NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds in a playoff game (41 against the Boston Celtics, on April 5, 1967).
Game 3 victory in the Eastern Division finals.

NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds in a half (26 against the San Francisco Warriors on April 16, 1967)
Also an NBA Finals record.

NBA Playoff Record - Highest rebounding average in a playoff series (32.0 in a five game series against the Boston Celtics in 1967).

NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds in a 5-game playoff series (160 against the Boston Celtics in 1967).

NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds in a 6-game playoff series (171 against the San Francisco Warriors in 1967).
Also an NBA Finals record for a 6-game series.

NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds in a 7-game playoff series (220 against the Boston Celtics in 1965).

NBA Playoff Record - Most rebounds by a rookie in a game (35 against the Boston Celtics on March 22, 1960)
Scored a then-playoff record 53 points (still a rookie record) in the same game (a game 5 victory).

NBA All-Star Game Record - Most career rebounds in the NBA All-Star game (197).

NBA All-Star Game Record - Most rebounds in a half (16 in 1960).
Record shared with Bob Pettit


Continued...

[Heavincent]

And here come the Novels from jlauber :roll: :roll: :roll:

[jlauber]

And still more Wilt "Tall Tales":

[QUOTE]Other selected rebound facts
2nd most consecutive seasons with 1,000+ rebounds (10)

[millwad]

Dunce Bungalow at his finest:

"Eye witnesses"... HAHA!

And LMAO at Wilt being a "HOF"-volleyball player...

First of all, he played in a shortlived CO-ED league from '75-'79 in California (yes, he was playing against women). And he got into the made up HOF of the league (not the real volleyball HOF) for promoting the sport, not for being great at it.

Wilt myths are really silly..:facepalm

[millwad]

Still more Wilt "myths":



Continued...

No one claims that his stats are myths, you bloody idiot.:facepalm

It's the eye witness crap about his so called "accomplishments" and other made up crap like Wilt being a worldclass-volleyball player after playing one year against girls..:facepalm

[nightprowler10]

Little known fact: soccer wasn't well known in America until Wilt kicked a ball out of his yard back to his neighbor's kid. The kid died from the impact of the ball, but Wilt is now in FIFA's hall of fame for helping with soccer's popularity.

[jlauber]

Now, how about the REAL "Wilt Tall Tales" that we have read here on this forum many times, and usually by the same moronic posters:

"Wilt played in a weak era and against short white guys."

:roll:

"Wilt shooting 1-11 from the line in game seven of the '70 Finals cost him 3-4 rings."

:roll: :roll:

"Kareem outplayed Wilt in the '72 WCF's."

:roll: :roll:

(Yeah right...EVERYONE who actually WATCHED that series, including the MILWAUKEE press and coach claimed that Wilt outplayed Kareem. BTW, TIME MAGAZINE hailed Wilt's performance as DECISIVELY OUTPLAYING Kareem in that SERIES.)

"Bird was more clutch than Wilt."

:roll: :roll:

"Hakeem is a better player than Chamberlain."

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[millwad]

"Wilt shooting 1-11 from the line in game seven of the '70 Finals cost him 3-4 rings." - HIS horrible FT's cost him at least one ring.

:roll: :roll:

"Kareem outplayed Wilt in the '72 WCF's." - More so then other way around

:roll: :roll:

(Yeah right...EVERYONE who actually WATCHED that series, including the MILWAUKEE press and coach claimed that Wilt outplayed Kareem. BTW, TIME MAGAZINE hailed Wilt's performance as DECISIVELY OUTPLAYING Kareem in that SERIES.)

"Bird was more clutch than Wilt." - HAHA, EASILY...

:roll: :roll:

"Hakeem is a better player than Chamberlain." - EASILY, no doubt..

:roll: :roll: :roll:

FIXED

[CavaliersFTW]

"Slightly"

Way to go out on a limb. All of these are extremely exaggerated.

They are extremely exaggerated by DEUCE dipshit. Most of what really happened is deliberately being burried under a veil of idiocy by deuces trolling. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyz-FhP2ONk&t=3m16s

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ywBQHQ9CL78/T0mwN5lhw5I/AAAAAAAAC_8/jNAPNb3GcAM/s400/March%252024th%25201956%2520-%2520free%2520throw%2520rule%2520proposal.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ls0txYItPN0/T0mwRJURGwI/AAAAAAAADAM/UiT80PsPaOs/s800/March%252026th%25201956%2520-%2520free%2520throw%2520rule%2520accepted.jpg


For example: The "Wilt Story" about free throw dunking is neither a story by Wilt, nor a myth at all, duece just doesn't tell the f_cking story straight. Tex Winter is the man who saw Wilt do it at the Hauck Auditorium at KU while scouting him out. He's also the source of the info going public in the 1950's, not Wilt. Is it some f_cking coincidence that the Rules and Regulations committee (which Tex was Chairmen of) did in fact propose some sort of rule that specifically addresses this feat? - And then a day later the rule WAS agreed on and implemented? No. Sorry. They don't make useless stupid rules in the NCAA based on stopping events that have never even happened before. Is it coincidence that the other rule Tex Winter's talks about is also mentioned in these list of rule changes too?

Somebody, somewhere dunked a free throw and the NCAA didn't want it to happen in a game. Hmmm call it blind intuition but something tells me Chamberlain was the reason?....

Late in life Wilt is asked about free throw dunks in an interview and he said he used to do it just goofing off in the gym and what not, he said he wouldn't have even tried them in serious games. That's the only time I've ever even heard Wilt talk about free throw dunks he didn't even boast about it.

:hammerhead:

The only idiots here are the ones that think these ridiculous versions of Wilt stories aren't being deliberately embellished by DEUCE

[SilkkTheShocker]

More Wilt Stories:

-Was better a badminton player than basketball player
-Climbed up Mount Everest than slid down it on a garbage can lid
-revived a coma patient by slapping him in the head with his d1ck.
- Played QB and WR at the same time in high school.
- Bowled a perfect game using a football
-played kicked ball using a medicine ball
-could light a match his his foreskin

[CavaliersFTW]

More Wilt Stories:

-Was better a badminton player than basketball player
-Climbed up Mount Everest than slid down it on a garbage can lid
-revived a coma patient by slapping him in the head with his d1ck.
- Played QB and WR at the same time in high school.
- Bowled a perfect game using a football
-played kicked ball using a medicine ball

:lol That was said by Shaq on the episode of his Shaq Vs - (Shaq vs Ben)!

[jlauber]

FIXED

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[SilkkTheShocker]

:lol That was said by Shaq on the episode of his Shaq Vs - (Shaq vs Ben)!


:oldlol:

coincidence since I never watched Shaq's show. Im guessing it was sh1tty though.

[CavaliersFTW]

:oldlol:

coincidence since I never watched Shaq's show. Im guessing it was sh1tty though.

I'll say this... his show was about as good as his rap albums.. :D

[asdf1990]

I heard he ate a horse
Outswam and a shark...and then killed it
dunked on the moon

I heard from a person whose friends cousins father saw wilt out run a cheetah while carrying 500 lbs of weight in each hand. Then he went back to the hotel and had sex with 6 women afterward to maintain his daily average to reach 20k women

[zay_24]

http://images.collectors.com/smrweb/smr1206/5980054_Wilt_Chamberlain_76.jpg

- 500 lbs bench press
- 50" vertical
- Curl 100 lb DBs as easily as we can pick up our phones
- Beat up a mountain lion and threw it by its tail
- Slept with 20,000 women, jlauber's mom being one of them
- Dunked his freethrows in high school
- Dunked the ball so hard that it crushed the opponents toes
- Could average 70 points per game in the 90's
- At age 59 he could bench 465 lbs like it was a match stick
- Clean and jerk 435 lbs
- A world class volleyball player
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[CavaliersFTW]

I had good seats to one of the LA regular season games in the early 70's.

From my vantage point there was a slew of celebrities that had come to watch the game, I had been to other games before and we always tried to identify and count the celebrities at half-time. Anyways, believe it or not Chuck Norris attended this particular game.

A time out was called about 4 minutes into the 3rd quarter by a FUMING Sharmen because Wilt flat-out stopped playing basketball. He was just standing there blankly starring into the stands. I knew what was going on immediately and It sent chills down my spine. For the next 10 minutes I was very afraid....

Wilt had locked eyes with Chuck Norris and neither one of them was about to back down. Normally time out's are 30 seconds and play must resume but all it took was 15 seconds for everyone in the entire arena to realize the titanic personal battle that had begun. Wilt wasn't moving and Norris.. well you know.


http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/chuck_will_kick_your_ass.jpg

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0310/nba_g_wilt11_576.jpg


The auditorium fell into complete silence - fans just collectively knew any disturbance responsible for either Wilt or Norris's loss of concentration would be met with sudden death. Nearly 10 minutes pass before a universal paradox happened that to this day I can not fathom.

Norris blinked first.

Whispers and shocked faces in the crowd instantly erupted but Chuck was just as quick to flash a panoramic gaze that seemed to envelop the entire arena in fear. The ref's, in their shared state of panic, blew their whistle's and continued the game to re-focus everyone's attention. Wilt and the Lakers resumed play - and with a smirk on his face Wilt scored Two-Hundred points in the final 8 minutes of the 3rd quarter and sat the rest of the game out to sleep with 17 women and take a seat next to a confused Norris to explain to him how to cope with losing. To this day no-one dare acknowledge that game. Everyone pretends it never happened because no one wants to acknowledge Chuck's defe.....

[Deuce Bigalow]

Dunce Bungalow at his finest:
http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/lol/grand/ahaha_gif.gif

[Deuce Bigalow]

Now, how about the REAL "Wilt Tall Tales" that we have read here on this forum many times, and usually by the same moronic posters:

"Wilt played in a weak era and against short white guys."

:roll:

"Wilt shooting 1-11 from the line in game seven of the '70 Finals cost him 3-4 rings."

:roll: :roll:

"Kareem outplayed Wilt in the '72 WCF's."

:roll: :roll:

(Yeah right...EVERYONE who actually WATCHED that series, including the MILWAUKEE press and coach claimed that Wilt outplayed Kareem. BTW, TIME MAGAZINE hailed Wilt's performance as DECISIVELY OUTPLAYING Kareem in that SERIES.)

"Bird was more clutch than Wilt."

:roll: :roll:

"Hakeem is a better player than Chamberlain."

:roll: :roll: :roll:
They are ALL True

[Deuce Bigalow]

Little known fact: soccer wasn't well known in America until Wilt kicked a ball out of his yard back to his neighbor's kid. The kid died from the impact of the ball, but Wilt is now in FIFA's hall of fame for helping with soccer's popularity.


I heard from a person whose friends cousins father saw wilt out run a cheetah while carrying 500 lbs of weight in each hand. Then he went back to the hotel and had sex with 6 women afterward to maintain his daily average to reach 20k women
:roll: :applause:

[jlauber]

They are ALL True

ONLY in the Dunce and Dickwad universe.

[Deuce Bigalow]

ONLY in the Dunce and Dickwad universe.
Only in reality

[nightprowler10]

Oh shit! Someone send out a search party for CavaliersFTW.

[Simple Jack]

I had good seats to one of the LA regular season games in the early 70's.

From my vantage point there was a slew of celebrities that had come to watch the game, I had been to other games before and we always tried to identify and count the celebrities at half-time. Anyways, believe it or not Chuck Norris attended this particular game.

A time out was called about 4 minutes into the 3rd quarter by a FUMING Sharmen because Wilt flat-out stopped playing basketball. He was just standing there blankly starring into the stands. I knew what was going on immediately and It sent chills down my spine. For the next 10 minutes I was very afraid....

Wilt had locked eyes with Chuck Norris and neither one of them was about to back down. Normally time out's are 30 seconds and play must resume but all it took was 15 seconds for everyone in the entire arena to realize the titanic personal battle that had begun. Wilt wasn't moving and Norris.. well you know.


http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/chuck_will_kick_your_ass.jpg

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0310/nba_g_wilt11_576.jpg


The auditorium fell into complete silence - fans just collectively knew any disturbance responsible for either Wilt or Norris's loss of concentration would be met with sudden death. Nearly 10 minutes pass before a universal paradox happened that to this day I can not fathom.

Norris blinked first.

Whispers and shocked faces in the crowd instantly erupted but Chuck was just as quick to flash a panoramic gaze that seemed to envelop the entire arena in fear. The ref's, in their shared state of panic, blew their whistle's and continued the game to re-focus everyone's attention. Wilt and the Lakers resumed play - and with a smirk on his face Wilt scored Two-Hundred points in the final 8 minutes of the 3rd quarter and sat the rest of the game out to sleep with 17 women and take a seat next to a confused Norris to explain to him how to cope with losing. To this day no-one dare acknowledge that game. Everyone pretends it never happened because no one wants to acknowledge Chuck's defe.....


:applause:

This post deserves to be acknowledged. Well done sir.

[Horatio33]

Jlauber, you post essays of stats, but we rarely hear eyewitness accounts (in person or tv) of Wilt's "greatness." why is that?

[mrpibb]

Because it was forever ago? Is that a serious question?

[jlauber]

Jlauber, you post essays of stats, but we rarely hear eyewitness accounts (in person or tv) of Wilt's "greatness." why is that?

You're kidding right?

I could post page-after-page of quotes from peers. media, fans..you name it. And if you are referring to me, I SAW MANY of Chamberlain's games televised live, and even two of them in person. Both in the 72-73 season in Oakland.

I have said it before, but I watched a TON of Russell-Wilt matchups from the early 60's until their final game in game seven of the '69 Finals, and I never came away thinking that Russell had outplayed Chamberlain. Having said that, in the vast majority of them, Russell's teammates outplayed Wilt's. Russell deserved at least some of the credit, and while I find it hard to believe, perhaps Wilt deserved some of the blame.

In any case, there are some idiots out there, most noteably Bill Simmons, who had this insane perception that Russell "let" Wilt score, and then would "shut him down" in the 4th quarters. There was just too much evidence to the contrary. Furthermore, Russell's Celtics went 85-57 against Wilt's teams (and 29-20 in the playoffs), so it was not like Russell HOF-laden teams were beating Wilt's teams in every game. In fact, as I have said many times, Wilt was a total of NINE points, from having a 5-3 playoff edge in their post-season H2H's (losses in game seven's by margins of 2, 1, 4, and 2.) No one is going to convince me that Russell was THAT brilliant, that he could control a game to THAT degree (or that he could hit a guidewire with an inbounds pass, with a one point lead...and KNOWING that "Havlicek would steal the ball" on the Sixers inbounds pass.)

And, IF Russell were truly a better player than Chamberlain, where are the games that prove it? I can show DOZENS of games in which Wilt CRUSHED Russell, both in losses, and in WINS (and yes, even in close games.) Finally, how about this example? In the clinching game five loss of the '66 ECF's, Wilt hung a 46 point, 34 rebound game on Russell (on 19-34 shooting.) The very next season, Russell was on the opposite side of that scenario. His Celtics had just narrowly avoided a sweep, and were down 3-1. How did Russell respond when his team desperately needed him to step up? He scored FOUR points (with 21 rebounds.) Meanwhile, Wilt poured in 29 points (22 in the first half when the game was still close), on 10-16 shooting, with 36 rebounds, 13 assists, and 7 blocks. If Russell were truly the better player, why couldn't he elevate his offense against Wilt when his teammates obviously needed him to?

I also saw the majority of the Kareem-Wilt battles, including all of the '72 WCF's. Kareem was the best player in the game by that point. He was at his absolute best, and was at his peak athletically. He would bulk up after that, and he would add some range to his offense, but he was never as quick, or as athletic as he was early on in his career.

Chamberlain was much stronger, of course, and used his weight to keep Kareem from positioning himself closer to the basket, BUT, it was Wilt's VERTICAL that limited Kareem's efficiency. Even at age 35, Chamberlain had a higher leap than a young Kareem.

And, as I have (and other's) have posted, Wilt was ROUTINELY blocking the "unblockable" skyhook. What was interesting was that I honestly believe that it was Nate Thurmond's defense against Kareem in their early H2H's that may have tipped Wilt on how to play Kareem. I am speculating, of course, but in the '72 regular season, Kareem had his greatest statistical regular season against Wilt. BTW, it was his ONLY regular season in which he shot 50% against Wilt (in his other three he shot .429, .438, and .450.)

Granted, some of Kareem's scoring in that '72 H2H regular season against Chamberlain was "stats-padding." For example, in his 50 point game against Wilt, Chameberlain's Lakers were comfortably in command throughout, and ran away with a 123-107 win. Furthermore, Kareem took 39 shots against him. And while Kareem was gunning all game long, Wilt was pounding him on the glass at both ends of the floor (a 25-8 edge in rebounding.)

However, after Thurmond OUTPLAYED Kareem in the '72 playoffs (Nate outscored and outshot Kareem), Wilt seem to body Kareem more. Wilt probably had the highest "straight-up" leap in NBA history, and it allowed him to literally stick to Kareem like glue, and yet still go straight up to challenge the skyhook. And, in the last four games of the '72 WCF's, Wilt held Kareem to .414 shooting (.457 overall), in a season in which Kareem shot .574. In fact, after an embarrassing first game loss, the Lakers won four of the last five games, including a 25 point annihilation in game five, and a come-from-behind clinching win in game six, in which Wilt dominated Kareem down the stretch.

And, if anything, Wilt was just as dominant against Kareem in the very next season (Wilt's LAST.) The two went H2H in six regular season games, and while Kareem outscored Wilt, per game, 29-11, Chameberlain outshot Kareem, .737 to .450. Included in those six games, was one game in which Wilt outscored Kareem, 24-21, while outshooting him, 10-14 to 10-27.

Interesting too, was the playoffs in that 72-73 season. Kareem's 60-22 Bucks were stunned by Nate's 47-35 Warriors, in a series in which Thurmond reduced Kareem to a .428 shooter (and once again, in the '71 playoffs, Nate not only outscored Kareem, per game, 25-23, he outshot Kareem in that series, .437 to .405.)

Then, in the WCF's, Wilt just murdered Thurmond, outrebounding him by a 23.6 to 17.2 rpg margin, and outshooting Nate by a .550 to .398 margin. And, Wilt's 60-22 Lakers just slapped Nate's Warriors, 4-1, including a game three blowout in Oakland of 126-70, in a game that I attended. Wilt badly outrebounded Nate in that game, and while I don't recall the numbers, Wilt blocked a ton of shots.

Of course, unlike the Russell-Wilt battles, we never saw a PRIME Wilt battle a prime Kareem. The closest example we had was their very first meeting, when Kareem was a rookie, and Wilt was in his 11th season. In that game, Wilt pounded Kareem in every aspect of that game, outscoring him, 25-23; outrebounding him, 25-20; outassisting him, 5-2; outblocking him, 3-2; and outshooting him, 9-14 to 9-21 (.643 to .429.)

In fact, very few fans know this, but that game was one of Wilt's first nine games in that 69-70 season. Wilt's new coach, Joe Mullaney, had asked Wilt to focus on the offensive end before the season started, and a rejuvenated Wilt came out on fire. He was leading the league at 32.2 ppg, (on .600 shooting with 20 rpg), when he shredded his knee in that ninth game (in game in which he had scored 33 points on 13-13 shooting.) Now, keep in mind that rookie Kareem averaged 28.8 ppg on .518 shooting that season. We will never know, of course, but Wilt was perhaps on his way to his eighth scoring title.

In any case, while Kareem would go on to become an even greater player, that was also not a PRIME Wilt, either. And from those here that actually saw Wilt perform in his career, it seems to be a consensus that a prime Wilt would have certainly scored much more against Kareem, than the OLD Wilt, who was playing on a surgically repaired knee in 27 of their last 28 H2H's.

BTW, more-and-more VIDEO footage of Chamberlain is being released, and we are now getting confirmation on what us "old-timers" knew all along. Wilt was an incredible athlete, with perhaps the highest REACH in NBA history (we have VIDEO footage of a Wilt block in which his fingertips are within a couple of inches of the top of the backboard), with a solid range of 15+ ft, which included a WIDE array of moves. And, of course, the "myths" that Wilt only played against 6-6 white centers was blown to bits a long time ago.

[dunksby]

Because it was forever ago? Is that a serious question?
People are pushing jlauber's buttons so he gets mad and posts more walls of text, its hilarious actually :roll:

[millwad]

People are pushing jlauber's buttons so he gets mad and posts more walls of text, its hilarious actually :roll:

Can you imagine how the guy is IRL? HAHA, poor wife and kids, the old fart is 56 years old and he's obsessed with a basketball player...:facepalm

Must be both a sad and hilarious view to watch this guy in action, while his wife asks for his company he'll tell her, "NO, I AM DEFENDING WILT ON THE NET!"..

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091220211954/uncyclopedia/images/c/c2/Old-man-computer.jpg

[32jazz]

Can you imagine how the guy is IRL? HAHA, poor wife and kids, the old fart is 56 years old and he's obsessed with a basketball player...:facepalm

Must be both a sad and hilarious view to watch this guy in action, while his wife asks for his company he'll tell her, "NO, I AM DEFENDING WILT ON THE NET!"..

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091220211954/uncyclopedia/images/c/c2/Old-man-computer.jpg

And if you have one what do you tell her about wasting your time obssessing over Wilt?

I am sure you could be doing better things than worrying about Wilt, right?

[-23-]

You're kidding right?

I could post page-after-page of quotes from peers. media, fans..you name it. And if you are referring to me, I SAW MANY of Chamberlain's games televised live, and even two of them in person. Both in the 72-73 season in Oakland.

I have said it before, but I watched a TON of Russell-Wilt matchups from the early 60's until their final game in game seven of the '69 Finals, and I never came away thinking that Russell had outplayed Chamberlain. Having said that, in the vast majority of them, Russell's teammates outplayed Wilt's. Russell deserved at least some of the credit, and while I find it hard to believe, perhaps Wilt deserved some of the blame.

In any case, there are some idiots out there, most noteably Bill Simmons, who had this insane perception that Russell "let" Wilt score, and then would "shut him down" in the 4th quarters. There was just too much evidence to the contrary. Furthermore, Russell's Celtics went 85-57 against Wilt's teams (and 29-20 in the playoffs), so it was not like Russell HOF-laden teams were beating Wilt's teams in every game. In fact, as I have said many times, Wilt was a total of NINE points, from having a 5-3 playoff edge in their post-season H2H's (losses in game seven's by margins of 2, 1, 4, and 2.) No one is going to convince me that Russell was THAT brilliant, that he could control a game to THAT degree (or that he could hit a guidewire with an inbounds pass, with a one point lead...and KNOWING that "Havlicek would steal the ball" on the Sixers inbounds pass.)

And, IF Russell were truly a better player than Chamberlain, where are the games that prove it? I can show DOZENS of games in which Wilt CRUSHED Russell, both in losses, and in WINS (and yes, even in close games.) Finally, how about this example? In the clinching game five loss of the '66 ECF's, Wilt hung a 46 point, 34 rebound game on Russell (on 19-34 shooting.) The very next season, Russell was on the opposite side of that scenario. His Celtics had just narrowly avoided a sweep, and were down 3-1. How did Russell respond when his team desperately needed him to step up? He scored FOUR points (with 21 rebounds.) Meanwhile, Wilt poured in 29 points (22 in the first half when the game was still close), on 10-16 shooting, with 36 rebounds, 13 assists, and 7 blocks. If Russell were truly the better player, why couldn't he elevate his offense against Wilt when his teammates obviously needed him to?

I also saw the majority of the Kareem-Wilt battles, including all of the '72 WCF's. Kareem was the best player in the game by that point. He was at his absolute best, and was at his peak athletically. He would bulk up after that, and he would add some range to his offense, but he was never as quick, or as athletic as he was early on in his career.

Chamberlain was much stronger, of course, and used his weight to keep Kareem from positioning himself closer to the basket, BUT, it was Wilt's VERTICAL that limited Kareem's efficiency. Even at age 35, Chamberlain had a higher leap than a young Kareem.

And, as I have (and other's) have posted, Wilt was ROUTINELY blocking the "unblockable" skyhook. What was interesting was that I honestly believe that it was Nate Thurmond's defense against Kareem in their early H2H's that may have tipped Wilt on how to play Kareem. I am speculating, of course, but in the '72 regular season, Kareem had his greatest statistical regular season against Wilt. BTW, it was his ONLY regular season in which he shot 50% against Wilt (in his other three he shot .429, .438, and .450.)

Granted, some of Kareem's scoring in that '72 H2H regular season against Chamberlain was "stats-padding." For example, in his 50 point game against Wilt, Chameberlain's Lakers were comfortably in command throughout, and ran away with a 123-107 win. Furthermore, Kareem took 39 shots against him. And while Kareem was gunning all game long, Wilt was pounding him on the glass at both ends of the floor (a 25-8 edge in rebounding.)

However, after Thurmond OUTPLAYED Kareem in the '72 playoffs (Nate outscored and outshot Kareem), Wilt seem to body Kareem more. Wilt probably had the highest "straight-up" leap in NBA history, and it allowed him to literally stick to Kareem like glue, and yet still go straight up to challenge the skyhook. And, in the last four games of the '72 WCF's, Wilt held Kareem to .414 shooting (.457 overall), in a season in which Kareem shot .574. In fact, after an embarrassing first game loss, the Lakers won four of the last five games, including a 25 point annihilation in game five, and a come-from-behind clinching win in game six, in which Wilt dominated Kareem down the stretch.

And, if anything, Wilt was just as dominant against Kareem in the very next season (Wilt's LAST.) The two went H2H in six regular season games, and while Kareem outscored Wilt, per game, 29-11, Chameberlain outshot Kareem, .737 to .450. Included in those six games, was one game in which Wilt outscored Kareem, 24-21, while outshooting him, 10-14 to 10-27.

Interesting too, was the playoffs in that 72-73 season. Kareem's 60-22 Bucks were stunned by Nate's 47-35 Warriors, in a series in which Thurmond reduced Kareem to a .428 shooter (and once again, in the '71 playoffs, Nate not only outscored Kareem, per game, 25-23, he outshot Kareem in that series, .437 to .405.)

Then, in the WCF's, Wilt just murdered Thurmond, outrebounding him by a 23.6 to 17.2 rpg margin, and outshooting Nate by a .550 to .398 margin. And, Wilt's 60-22 Lakers just slapped Nate's Warriors, 4-1, including a game three blowout in Oakland of 126-70, in a game that I attended. Wilt badly outrebounded Nate in that game, and while I don't recall the numbers, Wilt blocked a ton of shots.

Of course, unlike the Russell-Wilt battles, we never saw a PRIME Wilt battle a prime Kareem. The closest example we had was their very first meeting, when Kareem was a rookie, and Wilt was in his 11th season. In that game, Wilt pounded Kareem in every aspect of that game, outscoring him, 25-23; outrebounding him, 25-20; outassisting him, 5-2; outblocking him, 3-2; and outshooting him, 9-14 to 9-21 (.643 to .429.)

In fact, very few fans know this, but that game was one of Wilt's first nine games in that 69-70 season. Wilt's new coach, Joe Mullaney, had asked Wilt to focus on the offensive end before the season started, and a rejuvenated Wilt came out on fire. He was leading the league at 32.2 ppg, (on .600 shooting with 20 rpg), when he shredded his knee in that ninth game (in game in which he had scored 33 points on 13-13 shooting.) Now, keep in mind that rookie Kareem averaged 28.8 ppg on .518 shooting that season. We will never know, of course, but Wilt was perhaps on his way to his eighth scoring title.

In any case, while Kareem would go on to become an even greater player, that was also not a PRIME Wilt, either. And from those here that actually saw Wilt perform in his career, it seems to be a consensus that a prime Wilt would have certainly scored much more against Kareem, than the OLD Wilt, who was playing on a surgically repaired knee in 27 of their last 28 H2H's.

BTW, more-and-more VIDEO footage of Chamberlain is being released, and we are now getting confirmation on what us "old-timers" knew all along. Wilt was an incredible athlete, with perhaps the highest REACH in NBA history (we have VIDEO footage of a Wilt block in which his fingertips are within a couple of inches of the top of the backboard), with a solid range of 15+ ft, which included a WIDE array of moves. And, of course, the "myths" that Wilt only played against 6-6 white centers was blown to bits a long time ago.

Question, who do you think is the GOAT?

[millwad]

And if you have one what do you tell her about wasting your time obssessing over Wilt?

I am sure you could be doing better things than worrying about Wilt, right?

I have a girlfriend actually and only 1/10 of every post I've written over these 5 years I've been here has been about Wilt. And I average 1.6 posts per day..

And what about you sucking up for Jlauber, the best u can do?..:facepalm

[jlauber]

Question, who do you think is the GOAT?

I actually have refined it down to FOUR players. Russell, who had 11 rings, and many at Wilt's expense, BUT, with much better rosters and teammates who played much better than Wilt's (and yet Wilt still nearly beat him in four game seven's. Then MJ, who was the game's greatest post-season scorer (but he didn't win until he had the best rosters in the league...take a look at the 92-93 and 93-94 seasons.) Magic, ELEVATED his teams to championship level, and who, even without Kareem won a game six title, and had seasons of 63-19 and 58-24 (and a trip to the Finals), and who before he arrived, and immediately after he retired, left LA with the same record as when he arrived. And, then Wilt, who was not only the greatest statistical player of all-time, and by a HUGE margin, but who was, at WORST, the second greatest PLAYOFF performer of all-time. And, not only did he put up MASSIVE numbers in the post-season, he either outplayed, or downright DOMINATED his opposing centers in virtually EVERY one of his 29 post-season series.

After that, I have Kareem.

Then Shaq with a slight edge over Duncan.

Then a big drop-off to either Kobe or Bird (although Kobe will most certainly retire ahead of him.)

Then, either Hakeem or Moses.

One day Lebron may surpass all but my top-four or five.

[32jazz]

I have a girlfriend actually and only 1/10 of every post I've written over these 5 years I've been here has been about Wilt. And I average 1.6 posts per day..

And what about you sucking up for Jlauber, the best u can do?..:facepalm

Then wouldn't' your time be better served worrying about your girlfriend & spending time with her than worrying about Wilt or specific posters here?

Because I thoroughly enjoy Jlauber's informative post & get sick of losers hijacking the threads with petty UNinformative b.s.. I have learned a lot about Wilt through the guy.

If you don't believe the posts or have facts to disprove it why waste time?:confusedshrug: I don't get it.

The man may be a retiree who has extra time on his hands.

[Horatio33]

I think JLauber isn't 56. I reckon he's in his late teens/early twenties, thinks if he says he is older, his arguements hold more water. No proof of his age. All he does is pull stats out.

[jlauber]

I think JLauber isn't 56. I reckon he's in his late teens/early twenties, thinks if he says he is older, his arguements hold more water. No proof of his age. All he does is pull stats out.


GTFO!

I have produced TONS of QUOTES from peers, coach's, media members, and respected sports icons. I have produced VIDEO footage (and more and more is becoming available.) I have produced NEWSPAPER articles. MAGAZINE articles. GAME RECAPS. Just what in the hell more can I do? I can't transport the "anti-Wilt" clan, like yourself, back to the 60's, ...and even if I did, and you saw it with your own eyes, you guys would STILL dispute it.

What is also interesting is that there are now a number of posters here who actually SAW Chamberlain play. La Frescobaldi, Helix, CavalierFan, and myself. Virtually ALL of us believe that Wilt was the best we ever saw. And I am not sure about Pslieas, and Gotterdamn, either. Then, we have EDUCATED posters, who have seen FOOTAGE (some of which the rest of us have not...Pointguard being one), or produced a TON of information, like Pointguard, Psileas, and PHILA...and here again, those guys rank Chamberlain at either at the top, or very near it.

I haven't read one poster who here who actually saw Chamberlain play, that has ripped him. (And BTW, Bill Simmons NEVER saw Chamberlain play, either. He was born in 1969.)

And one more damned time...there are HUNDREDS of eye-witness accounts, by the players, coaches, members of the media, and fans, which chronicle Wilt's amazing physical feats. BUT, where are the LEGITIMATE sources that were around in the Wilt-era that DISPUTE them?

Don't you think that SOMEONE would have witnessed Wilt attempting to touch the top of the backboard, and failing? Or working out with Chamberlain, and disputing the claims of 500+ lb bench presses? Why?

[Pointguard]

I think JLauber isn't 56. I reckon he's in his late teens/early twenties, thinks if he says he is older, his arguements hold more water. No proof of his age. All he does is pull stats out.
Naaah, read his post... you can tell he experienced the times because he knows the ins and outs too well. He is one of the best conceptual posters around here. He ties in the stats with what was happening. He remembers different rules and little guys that stepped up and did big things. His stats back him up. He uses stats.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I actually have refined it down to FOUR players. Russell, who had 11 rings, and many at Wilt's expense, BUT, with much better rosters and teammates who played much better than Wilt's (and yet Wilt still nearly beat him in four game seven's. Then MJ, who was the game's greatest post-season scorer (but he didn't win until he had the best rosters in the league...take a look at the 92-93 and 93-94 seasons.) Magic, ELEVATED his teams to championship level, and who, even without Kareem won a game six title, and had seasons of 63-19 and 58-24 (and a trip to the Finals), and who before he arrived, and immediately after he retired, left LA with the same record as when he arrived. And, then Wilt, who was not only the greatest statistical player of all-time, and by a HUGE margin, but who was, at WORST, the second greatest PLAYOFF performer of all-time. And, not only did he put up MASSIVE numbers in the post-season, he either outplayed, or downright DOMINATED his opposing centers in virtually EVERY one of his 29 post-season series.

After that, I have Kareem.

Then Shaq with a slight edge over Duncan.

Then a big drop-off to either Kobe or Bird (although Kobe will most certainly retire ahead of him.)

Then, either Hakeem or Moses.

One day Lebron may surpass all but my top-four or five.
Wilt is about 9th alltime
He hasn't won as much as the other greats and choked too much
And I don't care about the stats you're about to post in that weak era

[mrpibb]

He's the greatest Laker of all-time. Deal with it.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wilt "owned" Kareem

[mrpibb]

So, Deuce, what do you do on this board other than attack players?

[millwad]

He's the greatest Laker of all-time. Deal with it.

Magic, Kobe, Shaq, West and Jabbar says hi:no:

[Deuce Bigalow]

So, Deuce, what do you do on this board other than attack players?
who do I attack?

[mrpibb]

Magic, Kobe, Shaq, West and Jabbar says hi:no:

Wilt returns the greeting and asks how it feels to be second or lower.


who do I attack?

Lebron and Wilt. All the god damn time.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Magic, Kobe, Shaq, West and Jabbar says hi:no:
LMAO did he say WIlt was the greatest laker?
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wilt returns the greeting and asks how it feels to be second or lower.



Lebron and Wilt. All the god damn time.
Johnson
Bryant
O'Neal
Abdul-Jabbar
West
Chamberlain

6th best Laker


And I don't attack either of those players, just telling it like it is

[mrpibb]

:oldlol:

[DKLaker]

Hahahaha 20,000 women? You gota bang at least 5-6 a day everyday to make that number. No man is able to do such a thing puhleaz! :hammerhead:

You failed miserably at math.......2nd grade must be very hard for you huh.

I was very fortunate....and wild when I was young. I had 4-6 different girls in a day several times myself. I also had a weekend where I had sex over 50 times in a weekend with my girlfriend....at my age today I'm lucky if I can perform 4 times in a weekend :oldlol: So given what I know about the opportunities that even an average pro athlete has......there is absolutely no question that Wilt could've easily gone well over 20,000 women.

Sh!t was crazy before HIV came into the world. Stopped "Players" in their tracks.

[Deuce Bigalow]

:oldlol:
Johnson - 5 titles, 3 finals MVPs, 3 MVPs, #1 in assists
Bryant - 5 titles, 2 finals MVPs, 1 MVP, #1 in points
Abdul-Jabbar - 5 titles, 1 finals MVP, 4 MVPs, #1 in rebounding, #1 in blocks
O'Neal - 3 titles, 3 finals MVPs, 1 MVP
West - 1 title, 1 finals MVP, # 2 in points

Chamberlain - 1 title, 1 Finals MVP, Not top 3 in any category

[DKLaker]

Johnson
Bryant
O'Neal
Abdul-Jabbar
West
Chamberlain

6th best Laker


And I don't attack either of those players, just telling it like it is

Shaq has no business being above West or Kareem....are you kidding me???

Wilt is only lower because he didn't start out with the Lakers.

Don't forget Baylor.....I have him over Shaq too.

[millwad]

Wilt returns the greeting and asks how it feels to be second or lower.







He's dead...

http://d3trabu2dfbdfb.cloudfront.net/3/8/380399_o.jpeg

[Deuce Bigalow]

Shaq has no business being above West or Kareem....are you kidding me???

Wilt is only lower because he didn't start out with the Lakers.

Don't forget Baylor.....I have him over Shaq too.
Wilt shot under 37% from the freethrow line in the '69 & '70 NBA Finals
In the game 7s:
1-11 in '70
4-13 in '69

He had his chances but wilted

[LBJMVP]

7:00 march 2nd is the wilt 100 point game documentary!

looks pretty good. cant wait

[Deuce Bigalow]

Shaq has no business being above West or Kareem....are you kidding me???

Wilt is only lower because he didn't start out with the Lakers.

Don't forget Baylor.....I have him over Shaq too.
Baylor above Shaq? Then that means Wilt has to be 7th

[HighFlyer23]

Wilt and Russell are both trash

/thread

[Deuce Bigalow]

It's downright disgraceful. But then again, when they can't fight back with ANY knowledge, or FACTS, or actual ARTICLES, or VIDEO FOOTAGE, or ANY rational conversation, they have to resort to shameful tactics...all on a SPORTS FORUM.

Best to completely ignore the ignorant.

BTW, I am convinced that those two clowns are actually the same poster. It is almost an impossibility that two people could both be that stupid.
:oldlol: :facepalm

[DKLaker]

Baylor above Shaq? Then that means Wilt has to be 7th

As a "Laker" yes 7th

[Deuce Bigalow]

As a "Laker" yes 7th
yep 6th or 7th
Alltime as in all teams he's 9th IMO

[Deuce Bigalow]

More Wilt Stories:

-Was better a badminton player than basketball player
-Climbed up Mount Everest than slid down it on a garbage can lid
-revived a coma patient by slapping him in the head with his d1ck.
- Played QB and WR at the same time in high school.
- Bowled a perfect game using a football
-played kicked ball using a medicine ball
-could light a match his his foreskin
More please.

[DKLaker]

yep 6th or 7th
Alltime as in all teams he's 9th IMO

Yeah, I'm with you on that.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yeah, I'm with you on that.
What's your top 10 look like?

Mine:

1. Jordan
2. Abdul-Jabbar
3. Johnson
4. Russell
5. Bird
6. O'Neal
7. Bryant
8. Duncan
9. Chamberlain
10. Olajuwon

[randomword]

Here is an article with Iguodala saying Bill Russel is taller than Dwight Howard.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20120227_Iguodala_s_All-Star_moments.html

I'll let the mathematicians use the transitive theory.

[CavaliersFTW]

Here is an article with Iguodala saying Bill Russel is taller than Dwight Howard.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20120227_Iguodala_s_All-Star_moments.html

I'll let the mathematicians use the transitive theory.

That's because he's likely about 6'9.5 and Dwight Howard is 6'9 in his bare feet.

Russell was listed 6'10 in the Olympics of 1956, and throughout his NCAA career. He was only listed at 6'9 in the NBA - they liked to use round numbers back then. He's likely between 6'9 and 6'10. Does that sound about right to most people? He is definitely not "6'9" like how modern 6'9 players are, because back then players were given barefoot numbers where as today they are listed in shoes and grossly inflated even beyond that sometimes. That's probably why Iggy was surprised.

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/111229062346-2012-02-chamberlain-vertical-gallery.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/Wilt_100th_point.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8ADV9EsGnV0/TEvL2zGIW0I/AAAAAAAAABk/kknfXu5k-bs/s1600/Wilt+Chamberlain.jpg
http://images.maxpreps.com/site_images/editorial/article/f/d/0/fd01f47f-5527-df11-94b3-001cc494dda6/269a4cf2-bd27-df11-94b3-001cc494dda6_original.jpg
http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2010/01/18/wilt_chamberlain_bkc_1956_nw0001_t460.jpg
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/writers/joe_posnanski/03/02/wilt.chamberlain/wilt-poz2.jpg

[Owl]

http://www.answersfrommen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/wilt-1.jpg

[CavaliersFTW]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/94421757_7dfc67f3f4_o.jpg
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-08/20/xinsrc_52208052020147031540944.jpg
http://houston.culturemap.com/site_media/uploads/photos/2010-07-22/Yao_Ming_slam_dunk.263w_350h.jpg
http://wheretruthlies.com/drupal/sites/default/files/images/yao%20ming%2013%20of%20china%20dunks%20against%20m arc%20gasol%2013%20of%20spain.preview.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gFI9l61aE4Qv/340x.jpg

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

You can tell most of the people in this thread have absolutely NO IDEA just how insane professional athletes are genetically. These guys are absolute monsters and how crazy is it to say Wilt(the top score in NBA History) was uncapable of these feats. Multiple newspaper articles and interviews have been conducted in which people speak of Wilts acts. Why would they make these things up for Wilt anyway? Why would he be special? You can look for an interview of a first-hand account who says Wilt was incapable of these feats, but you won't find it. The guy was one of the greatest athletes ever and probably the best overall athlete the NBA has ever seen. Next to LeBron James of course.

People rip on Wilts stats all the time and say he destroyed 6 foot white guys every night, but Russell only averaged 13 PPG on 42% shooting against the same exact competition with inferior rebounding numbers to boot.

[asdf1990]

-I heard during wilts 100 point game at half time he ran to china and had sex with 10 Asian women and then ran back to make it in time for the start of the third quarter. He was faster than the speed of light

- Wilt was the first man on the moon, he didn't need no space shuttle, he just used his insane vertical and jumped to the moon

[irondarts]

All of this is true except the dunking so hard it crushed toes AND could average 70 points per game in the 90's.
I have been around pro athletes since 1960 and was fortunate enough to talk to Wilt many times and even see him work out......he was a phenomenal athlete without any question.

People question the 20,000 women......I can't say if he did it or not but I can say from experience that he could've easily done it if he wanted to and was physically able to perform.
A friend of mine who played pro baseball many years ago was in town for a 3 game series, I was at the team hotel and he asked me to help him get his mail.....I thought it was a stupid request until I saw he had 3 military style duffel bags full of mail. We started opening the mail and it was nothing but nude and half nude photos of women offering to meet him after the game for sex.....I mean incredibly hot women. Sure enough, after the game I saw every one of those chicks waiting for him and calling his name......he said it was like that in every city.....the mail, the women......and even more at home games.
He wasn't even a star player, he was good looking but not like a god.
I saw Wilt with a lot of women. Sex with 20,000......maybe he forgot a few thousand more. If you guys think any of this has changed for athletes today then you are nuts.......it's the same.
........

[32jazz]

That's because he's likely about 6'9.5 and Dwight Howard is 6'9 in his bare feet.

Russell was listed 6'10 in the Olympics of 1956, and throughout his NCAA career. He was only listed at 6'9 in the NBA - they liked to use round numbers back then. He's likely between 6'9 and 6'10. Does that sound about right to most people? He is definitely not "6'9" like how modern 6'9 players are, because back then players were given barefoot numbers where as today they are listed in shoes and grossly inflated even beyond that sometimes. That's probably why Iggy was surprised.

Even Hakeem Olajuwon was listed at 7'0 before the early 90's. He just out of the blue (religious resolution or something) said the media had been misspelling his name & it was Hakeem (& not Akeem as it had been spelled previously) & he was only close to 6'10 & not 7'0 feet.

It's a modern thing to exaggerate players height & the average starting Center has been around 6'10 every since the early to mid 60's up until today.

on the other hand average Guards heights have grown significantly since just the 1980's.




Starting Centers average heights have benn about

[CavaliersFTW]

You can tell most of the people in this thread have absolutely NO IDEA just how insane professional athletes are genetically. These guys are absolute monsters and how crazy is it to say Wilt(the top score in NBA History) was uncapable of these feats. Multiple newspaper articles and interviews have been conducted in which people speak of Wilts acts. Why would they make these things up for Wilt anyway? Why would he be special? You can look for an interview of a first-hand account who says Wilt was incapable of these feats, but you won't find it. The guy was one of the greatest athletes ever and probably the best overall athlete the NBA has ever seen. Next to LeBron James of course.

People rip on Wilts stats all the time and say he destroyed 6 foot white guys every night, but Russell only averaged 13 PPG on 42% shooting against the same exact competition with inferior rebounding numbers to boot.

Plus anyone with an ounce of NBA history knows he never even played "6 foot white guys" - the 60's was the age of the center. The average height for centers back then, especially in only the 9-12 team leagues, was taller than today - this includes the 1961-62 season. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Walt Bellamy, Bill Russell... HOF'ers and 50 greatests with 2 of those guys constantly in GOAT conversations yet... Let's just brush them under the rug - it's so much easier not to do research and believe the 6 foot white guy myths because it helps explain things like 100 points and 50 points per game. After all Wilt would just get slaughtered by today's Joel Anthony's and Jafail McGee's right? :facepalm

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/94421757_7dfc67f3f4_o.jpg
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-08/20/xinsrc_52208052020147031540944.jpg
http://houston.culturemap.com/site_media/uploads/photos/2010-07-22/Yao_Ming_slam_dunk.263w_350h.jpg
http://wheretruthlies.com/drupal/sites/default/files/images/yao%20ming%2013%20of%20china%20dunks%20against%20m arc%20gasol%2013%20of%20spain.preview.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gFI9l61aE4Qv/340x.jpg
Dont even compare the modern era to that weak era :facepalm

[Deuce Bigalow]

Plus anyone with an ounce of NBA history knows he never even played "6 foot white guys" - the 60's was the age of the center. The average height for centers back then, especially in only the 9-12 team leagues, was taller than today - this includes the 1961-62 season. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Walt Bellamy, Bill Russell... HOF'ers and 50 greatests with 2 of those guys constantly in GOAT conversations yet... Let's just brush them under the rug - it's so much easier not to do research and believe the 6 foot white guy myths because it helps explain things like 100 points and 50 points per game. After all Wilt would just get slaughtered by today's Joel Anthony's and Jafail McGee's right? :facepalm
0 players over 7' 230lbs that played more than 2 seasons :facepalm

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cyBo7RhkJk

Just look at this weak stuff :oldlol:
Revisionist historians jlauber and CavaliersFTW think that era is better/close to now :facepalm

[CavaliersFTW]

Even Hakeem Olajuwon was listed at 7'0 before the early 90's. He just out of the blue (religious resolution or something) said the media had been misspelling his name & it was Hakeem (& not Akeem as it had been spelled previously) & he was only close to 6'10 & not 7'0 feet.

It's a modern thing to exaggerate players height & the average starting Center has been around 6'10 every since the early to mid 60's up until today.

on the other hand average Guards heights have grown significantly since just the 1980's.




Starting Centers average heights have benn about

Actually - Guard height's were tallest in the early 60's I think. I calculated the average height of the 1961-62 season and compared it with 1989-2012 NBA drafted players (thanks to www.draftexpress.com)

NBA PG's in 62 averaged about 3/4 of an inch taller than modern PG's

NBA SG's in 62 averaged about 1/2 inch taller than modern PG's

NBA SF's in 62 averaged about 1/4 inch shorter than modern SF's

NBA PF's in 62 averaged about 1/8th inch shorter than modern PF's

NBA C's in 62 averaged over 1/2 inch taller than modern C's




- I think the center position was "modern" in size since at least the mid 1950's - Mikan set the standard. Wilt and Russell didn't define the center position as "big" - big was already the standard, they set raised the bar in athleticism. Guards got smaller with the success of players like Nate "Tiny" Archibald (who was 6'1 in his barefeet... not exactly tiny by today's standards). The smaller PG's were generally more agile than the 6'3-6'4 PG's that were being used in the early 1960's. Maybe PG's dipped really small in size in the 80's though, and is starting to climb again not sure. But forwards is what seemed to get bigger than in the early 60's. Not by much though. With only 9-12 teams it's easier to draft big talent, not just talent.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Actually - Guard height's were tallest in the early 60's I think. I calculated the average height of the 1961-62 season and compared it with 1989-2012 NBA drafted players (thanks to www.draftexpress.com)

NBA PG's in 62 averaged about 3/4 of an inch taller than modern PG's

NBA SG's in 62 averaged about 1/2 inch taller than modern PG's

NBA SF's in 62 averaged about 1/4 inch shorter than modern SF's

NBA PF's in 62 averaged about 1/8th inch shorter than modern PF's

NBA C's in 62 averaged over 1/2 inch taller than modern C's




- I think the center position was "modern" in size since at least the mid 1950's - Mikan set the standard. Wilt and Russell didn't define the center position as "big" - big was already the standard, they set raised the bar in athleticism. Guards got smaller with the success of players like Nate "Tiny" Archibald (who was 6'1 in his barefeet... not exactly tiny by today's standards). The smaller PG's were generally more agile than the 6'3-6'4 PG's that were being used in the early 1960's. Maybe PG's dipped really small in size in the 80's though, and is starting to climb again not sure. But forwards is what seemed to get bigger than in the early 60's. Not by much though. With only 9-12 teams it's easier to draft big talent, not just talent.
http://www.magazine.uc.edu/content/dam/magazine/images/0109/Lsports11.jpg

[Lebron23]

Wilt banged Katelyn Faber's grandmother back in the day.

[CavaliersFTW]

0 players over 7' 230lbs that played more than 2 seasons

Lettuce not forget your epic fail by claiming this the first time.


Yeah I'm so mad that some guy dominated short weak stiffs :oldlol:
And you have yet to list a single 7' 230 lb player too - tall tails don't count :lol
Anyone over 6'10 qualifies as 7'0 in today's NBA.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/desagana_diop/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Desagana-Diop-2241/

Hey Deuce What do all these 7 footers have in common?

Tyson Chandler
Brook Lopez
Robin Lopez
Hakeem Olajuwon
Patrick Ewing
Joakim Noah
Brendan Haywood
BJ Mullins
Darko Miclic
Spencer Hawes
Jerome Jordan
Chris Kaman
Tyson Chandler
Yi Jianlian
Andrew Bogut
Greg Oden
Javale McGee
Marcin Gortat

*Gasp! They aren't truthfully 7 feet tall at all! It's the post-1970's-media-age-NBA's best kept secret! Exaggerating player size for greater fan appeal.
www.draftexpress.com/measurements
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/larrybird_shh.jpg
:violin:


Listed weights are not reality.
In 1989, David Robinson was listed at 235lbs but at the Olympics he was weighed and found to be only 227lbs. Eventually he weighed more, obviously but at the time his list weight was actually exaggerated. Wilt Chamberlain was listed 275 in 1964 (and for the rest of his career) but when he stepped on the locker room scale in 1964 mid-season, it reads 292. hmmmm......... Bill Russell was listed a flat out unrealistic 215 for his entire career - in 1967 he openly talks about his increased weight progression up to 235, and in the off-seasons he weighed 240. Those vintage players in particular were listed via their draft weight's when they were skinny rookies. None of them stayed that weight, all of them gained weight especially playing in the post - some of them gained a massive amount of weight. :facepalm

ALL *32 of these men played Wilt for 2 seasons or more, are 7'0 tall by modern NBA standards, and exceeded 230lbs.

*Nate Thurmond (HOF, 50 greatest) THERES 1!
*Walt Bellamy (HOF) THERE'S 2!
*Kareem Abdul Jabbar (HOF, 50 greatest) THERE'S 3
*Tom Boerwinkle THERE'S 4!
*Ray Felix THERE'S 5!
*Bill Russell (HOF, 50 greatest) THERE'S 6!
*Walter Dukes THERE'S 7!
*Swede Halbrook THERE'S 8!
*Darrell Imhoff THERE'S 9!
*Bevo Nordman THERE'S 10!
*Mel Counts THERE'S 11!
*Jon Thompson THERE'S 12!
*Joe Strawder THERE'S 13!
*Reggie Harding THERE'S 14!
*Jim Fox THERE'S 15!
*Rich Niemen THERE'S 16!
*Dick Cunningham THERE'S 17!
*Dale Schlueter THERE'S 18!
*Dave Newmark THERE'S 19!
*Luther Rackley THERE'S 20!
*Otto Moore THERE'S 21!
*Neal Walk THERE'S 22!
*Greg Filmore THERE'S 23!
*Dennis Awtry THERE'S 24!
*George Johnson THERE'S 25!
*Bob Christian THERE'S 26!
*Tom Black THERE'S 27!
*Sam Lacey THERE'S 28!
*Bob Lanier (HOF) THERE'S 29!
*Elmore Smith THERE'S 30!
*Jim McDaniels THERE'S 31!
*William Smith THERE'S 32!


Oops I mis-counted the first time. Seems he played against no less than thirty TWO 7 footers. :confusedshrug:

FAIL
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mmBw3uzPnJI/SstrTxxc9LI/AAAAAAAAyRk/LMAngVuHOpY/s400/fail_68.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Cm2c74za2GE/T0VbCzeMoOI/AAAAAAAAC_U/WJUvQ7BDBHk/s400/U%2520mad.jpg

:lol

Deuce, you can't win, I know it's hard to accept change but your days of raping Wilt in the ass are over, sawry bud. You should go consume all the pills in your parents medicine cabinet, because you've dug yourself a deep grave with your sad attempts at trolling.

RIP Deuce :roll:

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://tjuice.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/facepalm.gif

[CavaliersFTW]

http://www.magazine.uc.edu/content/dam/magazine/images/0109/Lsports11.jpg

Cherry Picking is easy. Show a little effort bro, your losing :lol
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andrei+Kirilenko+Utah+Jazz+v+Miami+Heat+qwQvT_D-J6Yl.jpg

[CavaliersFTW]

http://tjuice.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/facepalm.gif

Don't hold back the tears.... just let it all out :cry:

[asdf1990]

http://www.magazine.uc.edu/content/dam/magazine/images/0109/Lsports11.jpg

a white dude with glasses, the era was worse then I expected .

[CavaliersFTW]

a white dude with glasses, the era was worse then I expected .

http://www.realclearsports.com/blognetwork/rcs_sidelines/Kurt%20Rambis%20glasses.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

Cherry Picking is easy. Show a little effort bro, your losing :lol
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andrei+Kirilenko+Utah+Jazz+v+Miami+Heat+qwQvT_D-J6Yl.jpg
He's taller than Lebron :oldlol: You fail

[CavaliersFTW]

He's taller than Lebron :oldlol: You fail

Pump your brakes.

YOU SHOWED THE NCAA

Not the NBA.

FAIL.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Pump your brakes.

YOU SHOWED THE NCAA

Not the NBA.

FAIL.
people get taller in the NBA?
:facepalm

[CavaliersFTW]

http://www.grandstandsports.com/images/5425.jpg

Two GOAT candidate centers that stand 7'3 in modern shoes - one of them 320lbs

With a 6'6 230lb point guard

what a small weak era.

:lol

[DKLaker]

0 players over 7' 230lbs that played more than 2 seasons :facepalm

I know right.....I was at every Lakers home game in the 60's, saw all these guys play and it is a complete and utter joke to try to compare them to the players of today......the great players were truly great....but there were a ton of scrubs and he skills and especially the athleticism.....with few big exceptions was very pahetic. Jeez, I almost sh!t myself when Westbrook threw down that dunk, the first thing I thought was a PG in the 60's and 70's couldn't even dream of throwing down a dunk like that, wow has the game really changed!!!

Wilt was an absolute freak of nature way ahead of his time.
It amazes me tho that Elgin Baylor gets no mention on here.....career 27.5 points, 13.5 boards, 4 assists. Averaged 38ppg and 19rpg in one season, scored 71 points in a game......Kobe had to WORK to beat that one.......and had 61 in a playoff game....still the most in a regulation playoff game, Jordan's 63 was in double OT. Oh and Baylor had 22 boards in the 61 point game.
He also kept the Lakers franchise from going under......can you even imagine that?
Baylor is #4 with 87 40+ point games........there was NO 3 POINT LINE WHEN HE PLAYED!!!!!!! OR maybe he would've scored 100!!!

We need some love for Elgin Baylor :bowdown:



Q: Cavaliers dude......you do realize that Kareem came to the NBA in 1969 right?

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://www.grandstandsports.com/images/5425.jpg

Two GOAT candidate centers that stand 7'3 in modern shoes - one of them 320lbs

With a 6'6 230lb point guard

what a small weak era.

:lol
nice cherrypick
2 photos out of a 1000 :oldlol:

and that is the 70's

[CavaliersFTW]

people get taller in the NBA?
:facepalm

:roll:

You tell me...

:hammerhead:

[Simple Jack]

I know right.....I was at every Lakers home game in the 60's, saw all these guys play and it is a complete and utter joke to try to compare them to the players of today......the great players were truly great....but there were a ton of scrubs and he skills and especially the athleticism.....with few big exceptions was very pahetic. Jeez, I almost sh!t myself when Westbrook threw down that dunk, the first thing I thought was a PG in the 60's and 70's couldn't even dream of throwing down a dunk like that, wow has the game really changed!!!

Wilt was an absolute freak of nature way ahead of his time.
It amazes me tho that Elgin Baylor gets no mention on here.....career 27.5 points, 13.5 boards, 4 assists. Averaged 38ppg and 19rpg in one season, scored 71 points in a game......Kobe had to WORK to beat that one.......and had 61 in a playoff game....still the most in a regulation playoff game, Jordan's 63 was in double OT. Oh and Baylor had 22 boards in the 61 point game.
He also kept the Lakers franchise from going under......can you even imagine that?
Baylor is #4 with 87 40+ point games........there was NO 3 POINT LINE WHEN HE PLAYED!!!!!!! OR maybe he would've scored 100!!!

We need some love for Elgin Baylor :bowdown:


:roll:

[Deuce Bigalow]

I know right.....I was at every Lakers home game in the 60's, saw all these guys play and it is a complete and utter joke to try to compare them to the players of today......the great players were truly great....but there were a ton of scrubs and he skills and especially the athleticism.....with few big exceptions was very pahetic. Jeez, I almost sh!t myself when Westbrook threw down that dunk, the first thing I thought was a PG in the 60's and 70's couldn't even dream of throwing down a dunk like that, wow has the game really changed!!!

Wilt was an absolute freak of nature way ahead of his time.
It amazes me tho that Elgin Baylor gets no mention on here.....career 27.5 points, 13.5 boards, 4 assists. Averaged 38ppg and 19rpg in one season, scored 71 points in a game......Kobe had to WORK to beat that one.......and had 61 in a playoff game....still the most in a regulation playoff game, Jordan's 63 was in double OT. Oh and Baylor had 22 boards in the 61 point game.
He also kept the Lakers franchise from going under......can you even imagine that?
Baylor is #4 with 87 40+ point games........there was NO 3 POINT LINE WHEN HE PLAYED!!!!!!! OR maybe he would've scored 100!!!

We need some love for Elgin Baylor :bowdown:
wait 60s' LA home game?

[DKLaker]

wait 60s' LA home game?

Yeah......I'm old.
The Lakers moved to LA in 1960 and played at the Sports Arena next to the Coliseum a block from USC. My dad got season tickets.
My childhood sucked because of the Fking Boston Celtics......I STILL hate them and never wear anything green.......true. But I do respect the franchise.

[Lebron23]

wait 60s' LA home game?


:lol :lol :lol

[CavaliersFTW]

Originally Posted by DKLaker
I know right.....I was at every Lakers home game in the 60's, saw all these guys play and it is a complete and utter joke to try to compare them to the players of today......the great players were truly great....but there were a ton of scrubs and he skills and especially the athleticism.....with few big exceptions was very pahetic. Jeez, I almost sh!t myself when Westbrook threw down that dunk, the first thing I thought was a PG in the 60's and 70's couldn't even dream of throwing down a dunk like that, wow has the game really changed!!!

Wilt was an absolute freak of nature way ahead of his time.
It amazes me tho that Elgin Baylor gets no mention on here.....career 27.5 points, 13.5 boards, 4 assists. Averaged 38ppg and 19rpg in one season, scored 71 points in a game......Kobe had to WORK to beat that one.......and had 61 in a playoff game....still the most in a regulation playoff game, Jordan's 63 was in double OT. Oh and Baylor had 22 boards in the 61 point game.
He also kept the Lakers franchise from going under......can you even imagine that?
Baylor is #4 with 87 40+ point games........there was NO 3 POINT LINE WHEN HE PLAYED!!!!!!! OR maybe he would've scored 100!!!

We need some love for Elgin Baylor


wait 60s' LA home game?

:lol

Rule changes you stupid ass, rule changes.

If you breath on a guard today, you've just "fouled" them.

If you charge the paint in the 60's, athleticism doesn't mean jack shit. That guy needs to re-assess what really has changed. I have video footage of a 6'1 white dude that played for LA as a backup point guard throwin down dunks. "Athleticism" is not why Westbrook dunks. No, weak centers today and NBA rules changes IE tic-tac fouls is why guards do what guards do today.

Oscar is bigger, stronger PG than anyone in the game today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv5GrV1GAnA
Slammed the f_ck down by Wilt.

This shit is ****ing WEAK. This is the modern NBA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FYteAwXt4I
:facepalm :roll:

A different game indeed.... due to rule changes.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yeah......I'm old.
The Lakers moved to LA in 1960 and played at the Sports Arena next to the Coliseum a block from USC. My dad got season tickets.
My childhood sucked because of the Fking Boston Celtics......I STILL hate them and never wear anything green.......true. But I do respect the franchise.
So are you 70? 65? how old?

[Deuce Bigalow]

:lol

Rule changes you stupid ass, rule changes.

If you breath on a guard today, you've just "fouled" them.

If you charge the paint in the 60's, athleticism doesn't mean jack shit. That guy needs to re-assess what really has changed. I have video footage of a 6'1 white dude that played for LA as a backup point guard throwin down dunks. "Athleticism" is not why Westbrook dunks. No, weak centers today and NBA rules changes IE tic-tac fouls is why guards do what guards do today.

Oscar is bigger, stronger PG than anyone in the game today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv5GrV1GAnA
Slammed the f_ck down by Wilt.

This shit is ****ing WEAK. This is the modern NBA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FYteAwXt4I
:facepalm :roll:
It's a weaker ****ing era
look at the video :oldlol:

Use your ****ing brain :facepalm

[DKLaker]

:lol

Rule changes you stupid ass, rule changes.

If you breath on a guard today, you've just "fouled" them.

If you charge the paint in the 60's, athleticism doesn't mean jack shit. That guy needs to re-assess what really has changed. I have video footage of a 6'1 white dude that played for LA as a backup point guard throwin down dunks. "Athleticism" is not why Westbrook dunks. No, weak centers today and NBA rules changes IE tic-tac fouls is why guards do what guards do today.

Oscar is bigger, stronger PG than anyone in the game today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv5GrV1GAnA
Slammed the f_ck down by Wilt.

This shit is ****ing WEAK. This is the modern NBA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FYteAwXt4I
:facepalm :roll:

Oscar was a BEAST......no doubt about that.......but the reality is that there was a HUGE athletic disparity which is why a small forward could put up enormous rebounding numbers like Elgin.
And come on.......look at the god awful pathetic dribbling of the 60 and early 70's compared to today.

HOW OLD ARE YOU?????

[Deuce Bigalow]

someone just post any random 60's highlight video. anybody

[DKLaker]

So are you 70? 65? how old?

I'm not going to say exactly.......but yeah.

[CavaliersFTW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEdiptkyYsY&t=5m43s

The NBA announcers and fans have heart attacks over this shit.

Yet it's a cheesy "sensational basket" in 1965.

Westbrook is doing nothing that wasn't already done in the 60's. I can't believe a guy who says he watched the NBA all through the 60's has forgotten that identical plays today were happening in the 60's.

The only thing that's changed are the rules, that opened up the game for smaller guards and killed the center spot, and the media's massive HYPE and fans REACTIONS to awesome plays. Those people in the crowd, the guy recapping the play, they're all practicing restraint and stifling the spectacle.

Today, Joakim Noah can jump 10" off the ground and dunk on someone half his size and get a "OOOOOOOOOOHHHH MYYYYYYY JOAKIM FOR THE STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!#!!111111111"

Do not underestimate the influence of improved marketing.

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEdiptkyYsY&t=5m43s

The NBA announcers and fans have heart attacks over this shit.

Yet it's a cheesy "sensational basket" in 1965.

Westbrook is doing nothing that wasn't already done in the 60's. I can't believe a guy who says he watched the NBA all through the 60's has forgotten that identical plays today were happening in the 60's.

The only thing that's changed are the rules, that opened up the game for smaller guards and killed the center spot, and the media's massive HYPE and fans REACTIONS to awesome plays. Those people in the crowd, the guy recapping the play, they're all practicing restraint and stifling the spectacle.

Today, Joakim Noah can jump 10" off the ground and dunk on someone half his size and get a "OOOOOOOOOOHHHH MYYYYYYY JOAKIM FOR THE STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!#!!111111111"

Do not underestimate the influence of improved marketing.
You are getting close to 32Dayz status

[CavaliersFTW]

Oscar was a BEAST......no doubt about that.......but the reality is that there was a HUGE athletic disparity which is why a small forward could put up enormous rebounding numbers like Elgin.
And come on.......look at the god awful pathetic dribbling of the 60 and early 70's compared to today.

HOW OLD ARE YOU?????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvMq-eX_pNw&t=12m

Old enough to know that gradual NBA rule changes combined with the improved marketing of the NBA immensely influences peoples perception of modern players vs their vintage counterparts. Doesn't matter how old you are or how old I am. The 1960's was simply not the era that showcased guards, it showcased centers. Guards today are more capable because the rules have changed (out of necessity).

Crossover (aka handles) = a carry in the 1960's

Tic-tac fouls = non-existent in the 1960's

Range? = Just about useless w/o a 3 point line...

Big men and back to the basket skills ruled the 60's. Almost everyone had a hook shot. The league has expanded, it hasn't been able to sustain or draft enough talented big men to fill the rosters since at least the 1970's and the league has just kept growing. So it has done everything possible to showcase and market the guards/forwards and that includes altering what they are allowed to do.

You don't think 60's players were capable of carrying the ball for crossovers if they were allowed to do them!? You don't think they'd charge Wilt and Bill if they were gonna draw an easy foul instead get called for charging - or slammed into the floorboards? You don't think Wilt or Bill wouldn't be forced to move away in order to not foul out - thereby allowing guards to have the confidence to sky for easy dunks!? Come on.

I agree the NBA changed. I just don't agree with you on "why" - and how good or bad it means players have been over time. The skill sets followed the rules. The athleticism argument is massively overrated. Bogut was the leagues leading shot blocking, Joel Anthony is the starting center for the heat, Zydrunas, Pau, Varejao, the Lopez Twins... come on. The league obviously shifted from dominating centers to dominating guards - and not because of athleticism.

[CavaliersFTW]

You are getting close to 32Dayz status

http://chzbromania.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/4dd89951-3d88-4562-8f0e-5eeb34d1ab97.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUNSl7zZlhQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq_nr4VF_b8

same...:oldlol:

[tommyhtc]

I don't have much say in this, not old enough to watch any of them.

but surely it is interesting to see posters who are old enough to witness the 60s go at it...

we need more of this:cheers:

[HighFlyer23]

i can't help loling at those pathetic 60s "highlights"

a high school team stomps on those scrubs

[CavaliersFTW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUNSl7zZlhQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq_nr4VF_b8

same...:oldlol:

Perfect example of the benefit of the NBA's marketing that changed the game to cope with expansion and make the game extraordinarily exciting to the eyes and ears of fans - the sounds, the OMG heart-attack announcers, the hype and the noise of the fans, the thrilling camera angles and instant replays, the invention of the break-away rim, the way superior shoes, the rules that finally favor "look at me" plays.

:facepalm

Yet... isn't Bill Russell the #7 ranked high jumper in the world in 1956? Is Pau Gasol as athletic as he is? Is Pau an "evolved/improved" Bill Russell :confusedshrug: yeah.... no.....

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/6/11/60608a71-8650-4af6-adfa-601470ebba71.jpg

[skan72]

I heard from eye witness sources that one time wilt got angry and threw the ball so hard at the floor that it created a hole.

What did people sh!t out of before Wilt created these?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Perfect example of the benefit of the NBA's marketing that changed the game to cope with expansion and make the game extraordinarily exciting in the eyes of fans - the sounds, the OMG heart-attack announcers, the hype and the noise of the fans, the thrilling camera angles and instant replays, the rules that finally favor "look at me" plays.

:facepalm

Yet... isn't Bill Russell the #7 ranked high jumper in the world in 1956? Is Pau Gasol as athletic as he is? :confusedshrug:

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/6/11/60608a71-8650-4af6-adfa-601470ebba71.jpg
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldp3jukzHo1qb9a2wo1_500.png

[Mach_3]

LMAO at the "curling a 100 pound dumbbell"

I know guys twice the size of Wilt who've been lifting for years who can't do that. GTFO with that crap :roll:

[skan72]

And if you have one what do you tell her about wasting your time obssessing over Wilt?

I am sure you could be doing better things than worrying about Wilt, right?

Maybe dude's "wife" was Wilt, and he is defending "her" memory.

[CavaliersFTW]

LMAO at the "curling a 100 pound dumbbell"

I know guys twice the size of Wilt who've been lifting for years who can't do that. GTFO with that crap :roll:

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/015/orly.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_dY-Ff5We7OI/SIRpF9YQdkI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/mAz6lSw0Qpk/s1600/Wilt7012Arnold6112.jpg

http://27.media.tumblr.com/OlSMHmDIaqjn99c7VcLXpxIwo1_500.jpg

You know guyz double the size of a 327lb dude?

Dayum u kno sum fat f_cks... of course they can't curl 100lbs :oldlol:

[bwink23]

There is no doubt that the overall athleticism of the league today is better than the 60's...even Bob Cousy has mentioned this on several occasions in interviews. However, the great players in the 60's were great enough athletes to be great in any era....Wilt, Oscar, West, Baylor, Russell, Bellamy....those guys could play today on just what they had. Of course they would be even better once they hopped of the time machine and were put on a NBA-level training and nutrition regimen.

[HighFlyer23]

There is no doubt that the overall athleticism of the league today is better than the 60's...even Bob Cousy has mentioned this on several occasions in interviews. However, the great players in the 60's were great enough athletes to be great in any era....Wilt, Oscar, West, Baylor, Russell, Bellamy....those guys could play today on just what they had. Of course they would be even better once they hopped of the time machine and were put on a NBA-level training and nutrition regimen.

because they didn't have weights and training in the 60s, right? Nor did they know what to eat?

these pathetic excuses :roll: :roll: :roll:

[CavaliersFTW]

There is no doubt that the overall athleticism of the league today is better than the 60's...even Bob Cousy has mentioned this on several occasions in interviews. However, the great players in the 60's were great enough athletes to be great in any era....Wilt, Oscar, West, Baylor, Russell, Bellamy....those guys could play today on just what they had. Of course they would be even better once they hopped of the time machine and were put on a NBA-level training and nutrition regimen.

ALL HAIL THE PRODUCTS OF MODERN MODERN NUTRITION/SUPPLEMENTS/TRAINING:bowdown:

Good God. Modern athletes = So Beast.
http://clevelandsports.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/varejao_omg.jpg
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/chris-kaman-drik-nowitzki.jpg
http://www.guxed.net/wp-content/uploads/Zydrunas-Ilgauskas1.jpg
http://thebostonjam.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/glen_davis_2.jpg






STIFFS FROM THE 60'S :lol
http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/game-on/2010/10/22/1ablog-oscarrobertsonx-large.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/292xmra.jpg
http://www.nba.com/celtics/photos/bill-russell-reed-block300400.jpg
http://media.scout.com/Media/College_Mens_Basketball/81335_GJohnson2.JPG



Over used argument - doesn't mean as much as people think. People look through tinted shades today and only focus on the superstars. The NBA today is LOADED with stiffs. Take off the superstar glasses and it's obvious. Blatantly obvious. Superstars of the 60's are no less densely packed throughout the league than the superstars of the modern era - stiffs of the 60's are no more numerous than stiffs of today. Remember the league was smaller back then. It only needs 1/3rd as many superstars to still have the same talent density as the game has today.

[DKLaker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvMq-eX_pNw&t=12m

Old enough to know that gradual NBA rule changes combined with the improved marketing of the NBA immensely influences peoples perception of modern players vs their vintage counterparts. Doesn't matter how old you are or how old I am. The 1960's was simply not the era that showcased guards, it showcased centers. Guards today are more capable because the rules have changed (out of necessity).

Crossover (aka handles) = a carry in the 1960's

Tic-tac fouls = non-existent in the 1960's

Range? = Just about useless w/o a 3 point line...

Big men and back to the basket skills ruled the 60's. Almost everyone had a hook shot. The league has expanded, it hasn't been able to sustain or draft enough talented big men to fill the rosters since at least the 1970's and the league has just kept growing. So it has done everything possible to showcase and market the guards/forwards and that includes altering what they are allowed to do.

You don't think 60's players were capable of carrying the ball for crossovers if they were allowed to do them!? You don't think they'd charge Wilt and Bill if they were gonna draw an easy foul instead get called for charging - or slammed into the floorboards? You don't think Wilt or Bill wouldn't be forced to move away in order to not foul out - thereby allowing guards to have the confidence to sky for easy dunks!? Come on.

I agree the NBA changed. I just don't agree with you on "why" - and how good or bad it means players have been over time. The skill sets followed the rules. The athleticism argument is massively overrated. Bogut was the leagues leading shot blocking, Joel Anthony is the starting center for the heat, Zydrunas, Pau, Varejao, the Lopez Twins... come on. The league obviously shifted from dominating centers to dominating guards - and not because of athleticism.

There are a few very valid points you made......finally:oldlol:

The 3 point line IMO has been the biggest factor.....possibly worst factor to change the game. It single handedly changed every position on the floor, that and the expansion of the league destroyed the classic Center position.

Bob Cousy was a HUGE STAR.....Jerry West.....plenty of guards were huge and were marketed to the extent of the times.

Marketing......YES, but without it the NBA may have folded by now.
In the 70's even the 1980 finals came on TV on tape delay AFTER the 11pm news. Most times if you wanted to watch a game you were up to 2am.
Hell, Magic's first game....I fell asleep briefly like 3 times during the game.....thank god I saw Kareem's winning shot at the buzzer and Magic hugging him like it was the champinship....I was screaming at almost 2am :oldlol: Highlights were limited to a clip or 2....if you were lucky and there was no ESPN or anything of that type.

In the 60's you would've been allowed a crossover if you had one....not the slop they allow today....but something reasonable. Cousy got away with some
stuff. Most guys only had 1 hand they could really dribble with.

Range, yeah meaningless without a 3 point line....you wanted to get the highest percentage shot....closest to the basket if possible.

Fouls....oh yeah, you could hack someone real good for sure.....there were no flagrant fouls.

Athleticism.....you are completely missing the boat here and you need to use common sense here.......if you look at athletic records.....track records and how athletes are faster, stronger and jump higher.......then you can easily understand that today's athletes are far superior. Trust me.....the guys in the 60's couldn't do a Westbrook or Griffin if you paid them double.

[bwink23]

because they didn't have weights and training in the 60s, right? Nor did they know what to eat?

these pathetic excuses :roll: :roll: :roll:


They aren't excuses at all...the myth that weight training would ruin your flexibility and agility extended all the way into the 1980's. Chicago Cub great Ryne Sandberg gave an interview talking about how they were encouraged NOT to lift weights to maintain flexibility. Just look at the athletes in the 80's in baseball and basketball....then look at them in the 1990's when weight lifting started to become the norm....Just look guys like Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman before weights...they didn't start lifting until their mid-20's...Jordan didn't start until he was 26,27 years old. Then look at them after..

If your implying that somehow humans have evolved genetically over the last 50-60 years, your sadly mistaken..kids today grow up eating hormone-laced meat. Give Jerry West undetectable HGH for 6 months on weight training i guarantee he will put on 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.....GET A CLUE

[jlauber]

Yep...the pathetic 60's,...

where 6-9 white guys were winning rebound titles, and 6-11 white guys were winning blocked shot titles, and 37 year old white guys were winning assist titles.

You would NEVER see that in 2011.

[Deuce Bigalow]

They aren't excuses at all...the myth that weight training would ruin your flexibility and agility extended all the way into the 1980's. Chicago Cub great Ryne Sandberg gave an interview talking about how they were encouraged NOT to lift weights to maintain flexibility. Just look at the athletes in the 80's in baseball and basketball....then look at them in the 1990's when weight lifting started to become the norm....Just look guys like Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman before weights...they didn't start lifting until their mid-20's...Jordan didn't start until he was 26,27 years old. Then look at them after..

If your implying that somehow humans have evolved genetically over the last 50-60 years, your sadly mistaken..kids today grow up eating hormone-laced meat. Give Jerry West undetectable HGH for 6 months on weight training i guarantee he will put on 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.....GET A CLUE
That's because they became men
a teenage-20s could do nothing and at age 28-30 would be still be bigger

:facepalm

[CavaliersFTW]

They aren't excuses at all...the myth that weight training would ruin your flexibility and agility extended all the way into the 1980's. Chicago Cub great Ryne Sandberg gave an interview talking about how they were encouraged NOT to lift weights to maintain flexibility. Just look at the athletes in the 80's in baseball and basketball....then look at them in the 1990's when weight lifting started to become the norm....Just look guys like Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman before weights...they didn't start lifting until their mid-20's...Jordan didn't start until he was 26,27 years old. Then look at them after..

If your implying that somehow humans have evolved genetically over the last 50-60 years, your sadly mistaken..kids today grow up eating hormone-laced meat. Give Jerry West undetectable HGH for 6 months on weight training i guarantee he will put on 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.....GET A CLUE


How sturdy are the legs of Yao, Bynum, and Oden again?

Look at all that benefit from weight gain. :facepalm

[Deuce Bigalow]

i can't help loling at those pathetic 60s "highlights"

a high school team stomps on those scrubs
:oldlol: :cheers:

[DKLaker]

There is no doubt that the overall athleticism of the league today is better than the 60's...even Bob Cousy has mentioned this on several occasions in interviews. However, the great players in the 60's were great enough athletes to be great in any era....Wilt, Oscar, West, Baylor, Russell, Bellamy....those guys could play today on just what they had. Of course they would be even better once they hopped of the time machine and were put on a NBA-level training and nutrition regimen.

No question that ALL of the guys you mentioned could play today....but not put up the freakish numbers they got because of going against inferior athletes.

[DKLaker]

i can't help loling at those pathetic 60s "highlights"

a high school team stomps on those scrubs

Yeah.....this is true, a top high school team would whip a lot of 60's teams.....not all.

[bwink23]

That's because they became men
a teenage-20s could do nothing and at age 28-30 would be still be bigger

:facepalm


NOT AT ALL....i'm guessing your not even 20 yet...your early 20's are the best time to gain lean muscle...you heal so much faster and recover much quicker. The weight you put on in your late 20's isn't the same type of weight in your early 20's. As you age, your muscles get heavy and flat. Jordan's musculature if had started lifting weights in college would have been much better than starting in his late 20's...i know cuz i've done it....I'm the same size i was in my late 20's as i was in high school, same weight, same fat index. But i wasn't nearly as strong or explosive. The muscles you develop in when your 21 don't compare to that of waiting until your 28....it's far from the same.

[bwink23]

How sturdy are the legs of Yao, Bynum, and Oden again?

Look at all that benefit from weight gain. :facepalm


I do believe that too much weight is a detriment in basketball...Kevin Love dropped 20 pounds and it wasn't affected him one bit...in fact, he's more dangerous now with his increased speed and agility.

[Deuce Bigalow]

NOT AT ALL....i'm guessing your not even 20 yet...your early 20's are the best time to gain lean muscle...you heal so much faster and recover much quicker. The weight you put on in your late 20's isn't the same type of weight in your early 20's. As you age, your muscles get heavy and flat. Jordan's musculature if had started lifting weights in college would have been much better than starting in his late 20's...i know cuz i've done it....I'm the same size i was in my late 20's as i was in high school, same weight, same fat index. But i wasn't nearly as strong or explosive. The muscles you develop in when your 21 don't compare to that of waiting until your 28....it's far from the same.
A 22 year old man compared to a 30-35 year old man is a big difference most of the time (ofcourse there some people that are different)
and it's not because they've been working out, they're just bigger and wider

[jlauber]

Yeah...you take someone like Kareem, who was playing in the NBA in 1969, and transport him to 2011, and he wouldn't make a high school team. Of course, since he was routinely crushing Hakeem, even while he was 39 years old, that also means that Hakeem wouldn't make an eighth grade girl's chruch league, either. And, I guess, since Hakeem could play a young Shaq to a draw in the 90's, that Shaq would be joining him as a backup in the leagues that have 8 ft. baskets, and no one keep score.

[BlackJoker23]

prime joel anthony would be a 10x mvp in the 60s. only player to win the award in every single year of the decade. prime russell and wilt = lucky to make high school jv team in todays era

[bwink23]

A 22 year old man compared to a 30-35 year old man is a big difference most of the time (ofcourse there some people that are different)
and it's not because they've been working out, they're just bigger and wider


Your gonna be bigger when your older cuz your body puts on fat at a certain % as you age, that's common knowledge. i've been lifting weights on and off all my life and i'm 35 years old. I know what aging is about when trying to stay physically fit...i can lift hard all day and i will never be what i was when i was 21. The explosiveness in my muscles is not there anymore...the only way i could come close is with "help". There is absolutely no substitute for natural testosterone when your young....except through illegal means.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Your gonna be bigger when your older cuz your body puts on fat at a certain % as you age, that's common knowledge. i've been lifting weights on and off all my life and i'm 35 years old. I know what aging is about when trying to stay physically fit...i can lift hard all day and i will never be what i was when i was 21. The explosiveness in my muscles is not there anymore...the only way i could come close is with "help". There is absolutely no substitute for natural testosterone when your young....except through illegal means.
Testosterone levels are at their highest in the 20's. But doesn't mean we are at our strongest.
A 30-35 year old man 90% of the time is much stronger and bigger than a 21-25 year old man.

[jlauber]

prime joel anthony would be a 10x mvp in the 60s. only player to win the award in every single year of the decade. prime russell and wilt = lucky to make high school jv team in todays era

As difficult as it is to believe, it looks like there is another poster as dumb as as the Dunce & Dickwad twins. (Unless, of course, all three are one in the same?)

[Deuce Bigalow]

As difficult as it is to believe, it looks like there is another poster as dumb as as the Dunce & Dickwad twins. (Unless, of course, all three are one in the same?)
http://reagangirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/old-man-at-computer.jpg

[CavaliersFTW]

There are a few very valid points you made......finally:oldlol:

The 3 point line IMO has been the biggest factor.....possibly worst factor to change the game. It single handedly changed every position on the floor, that and the expansion of the league destroyed the classic Center position.

Bob Cousy was a HUGE STAR.....Jerry West.....plenty of guards were huge and were marketed to the extent of the times.

Marketing......YES, but without it the NBA may have folded by now.
In the 70's even the 1980 finals came on TV on tape delay AFTER the 11pm news. Most times if you wanted to watch a game you were up to 2am.
Hell, Magic's first game....I fell asleep briefly like 3 times during the game.....thank god I saw Kareem's winning shot at the buzzer and Magic hugging him like it was the champinship....I was screaming at almost 2am :oldlol: Highlights were limited to a clip or 2....if you were lucky and there was no ESPN or anything of that type.

In the 60's you would've been allowed a crossover if you had one....not the slop they allow today....but something reasonable. Cousy got away with some
stuff. Most guys only had 1 hand they could really dribble with.

Range, yeah meaningless without a 3 point line....you wanted to get the highest percentage shot....closest to the basket if possible.

Fouls....oh yeah, you could hack someone real good for sure.....there were no flagrant fouls.

Athleticism.....you are completely missing the boat here and you need to use common sense here.......if you look at athletic records.....track records and how athletes are faster, stronger and jump higher.......then you can easily understand that today's athletes are far superior. Trust me.....the guys in the 60's couldn't do a Westbrook or Griffin if you paid them double.

I still disagree, why do men run faster? Why do they jump higher?

Is usain a half second faster than Owens strictly because of athleticism? Or does the aerodynamic Nike's and speed suits, the cinders/dirt vs impact polymer rubber track surface, the hand-held stopwatch vs lasers have something to do with it....

Flip flop their gear and tell me the difference between them is going to be the same.....

High Jump is WAY different, they jump in different pits, they land on cushions, again - the surface of their starting position isn't dirt anymore, they don't land in SAW DUST - and because of this they can jump belly up and shift their COG. The fosbury flop instantly shot up high jump #'s by about a foot. It wasn't because people suddenly became more athletic, it was because of the new technique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEt_Xgg8dzc
1968. Still the 2nd longest jump of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT-0XxCqV5E&feature=related
1991 the longest jump of all time. only an inch and change further

Nobody is even remotely close to those two guys today, the gap between them and the best long-jumpers today is measured in feet. Even though it's been over 45 years since Beamon jumped and 20 years since Powell jumped

Human athleticism isn't necessarily what's getting better, equipment is. Yes, a guy like Cousy would have benefited from hitting the weights - but then again, so would Anderson Verajao.

Gus Johnson isn't flying as high as Blake Griffin?... then, I guess neither was Jordan? - Dawkins? - 'Nique? - Erving?... Come on it's probably just not in the back of your mind all the time... athleticism isn't all of the sudden superior because Griffin throws the ball through the hoop. I'm thinking... the constant replays from the most carefully selected camera angles out of a dozen to choose from, and the heart-attack reaction that all the fans, players, and announcers have + ESPN and Youtube keeping the action right in your face - replaying it over and over telling you how amazing it was has more to do with this perceived athleticism improvement than anything else. Good marketing is powerful. Griffin's dunks are powerful. But IMHO they aren't more athletic than the other skywalkers that have played throughout NBA history.

And remember, break-away rims is another thing that enhanced the dunk, and they weren't invented until 1979, before '79 you weren't allowed to "hang" on rims because they would shatter too easily. Dawkins shattered 3 in a short span and the NBA had to develop a rim that would bend down after 220lbs of pressure to alleviate the board from breaking and the fans quickly loved the emphatic split second hang's, plus that added "snap" sound of the spring recoil. It's all part of the theater. Then, players started hanging A LOT on the rims (Like Shaq). That stuff simply wasn't allowed at one point. Now, for further icing on the cake they actually have microphones in the net and rim. The NBA is an entertainment industry, and entertainment technology has rapidly improved. Much more so than league-wide athleticism.


And lifting weights, in a way, comes at the expense of agility and durability particularly for the big guys - though the smaller point guards do benefit from it I think since it doesn't erode their knees as quickly. But be honest does it really look like there's more athleticism today to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS1GJ5wxyTc
~1980
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiiHmlK9Bi4
~2012

[HighFlyer23]

They aren't excuses at all...the myth that weight training would ruin your flexibility and agility extended all the way into the 1980's. Chicago Cub great Ryne Sandberg gave an interview talking about how they were encouraged NOT to lift weights to maintain flexibility. Just look at the athletes in the 80's in baseball and basketball....then look at them in the 1990's when weight lifting started to become the norm....Just look guys like Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman before weights...they didn't start lifting until their mid-20's...Jordan didn't start until he was 26,27 years old. Then look at them after..

If your implying that somehow humans have evolved genetically over the last 50-60 years, your sadly mistaken..kids today grow up eating hormone-laced meat. Give Jerry West undetectable HGH for 6 months on weight training i guarantee he will put on 10-15 pounds of lean muscle.....GET A CLUE

but wilt was curling 340 lbs and boning 3 girls at the same time in an era with no weights :hammerhead:

show me any scrub from the 60s ever getting up like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFmJioyrEms

[bwink23]

Testosterone levels are at their highest in the 20's. But doesn't mean we are at our strongest.
A 30-35 year old man 90% of the time is much stronger and bigger than a 21-25 year old man.


That is a flat-out LIE....Your muscles are primed for strength and explosion in your 20's. Your "heaviness" increases as you age, but your don't "get stronger"...:rolleyes:

I got down to high school weight and fat index 2 years ago when i was 33...no matter how hard i tried, i still came in 20 pounds under my high school max bench. And i was taking Jack3D to kill the pain. I was no where close to my explosive high school jump....and i rarely trained my legs in high school.

I repeat...there is NO SUBSTITUTE for elevated testosterone...NONE.

[RRR3]

http://reagangirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/old-man-at-computer.jpg
http://gadgets.boingboing.net/gimages/dy_carter.jpg:lol :lol :lol

[BlackJoker23]

As difficult as it is to believe, it looks like there is another poster as dumb as as the Dunce & Dickwad twins. (Unless, of course, all three are one in the same?)
as difficult as it is to believe your old dumbass is still in front of a lap top with drops of tears rolling down his saggy ass cheeks and drops of piss rolling down his legs still trying to convince wilt chamerlain was actually a player capable of holding his own vs candace parker yet nobody gives a fukk about ur long winded ass posts with those random ass full caps words LIKE this

get the fukk outta here u insignificunt b1tch

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://gadgets.boingboing.net/gimages/dy_carter.jpg:lol :lol :lol
Yeah because I'm 10 :rolleyes:

[RRR3]

Yeah because I'm 10 :rolleyes:
Sorry, Duece, didn't realize you hadn't had your birthday yet. How's third grade going, by the way?

[bwink23]

A 22 year old man compared to a 30-35 year old man is a big difference most of the time (ofcourse there some people that are different)
and it's not because they've been working out, they're just bigger and wider


Here's a quote from an article....

In large part, that's because we lose muscle cells as we age. When younger muscle cells get damaged, they're quickly repaired. That's not the case with older muscles, according to UCLA researcher and geriatrician Jonathan Wanagat. He says we don't know why muscles literally shrink as we age. But there are a number of theories.

"I think one of the ones that have become increasingly interesting and popular is the idea that the stem cells in the muscle are not able to respond to damage or to aging the way they did when we were younger," says Wanagat. And if damaged muscle cells aren't repaired, they sort of whittle away and die, he says. Decreases in growth hormone, testosterone and estrogen levels may also account for the loss of muscle fiber and the inability of tissue to replenish itself.

[Deuce Bigalow]

That is a flat-out LIE....Your muscles are primed for strength and explosion in your 20's. Your "heaviness" increases as you age, but your don't "get stronger"...:rolleyes:

I got down to high school weight and fat index 2 years ago when i was 33...no matter how hard i tried, i still came in 20 pounds under my high school max bench. And i was taking Jack3D to kill the pain. I was no where close to my explosive high school jump....and i rarely trained my legs in high school.

I repeat...there is NO SUBSTITUTE for elevated testosterone...NONE.
What the hell is wrong with you?
You're telling me 21-25 year olds can beat up 30-35 year olds? :facepalm :oldlol:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Sorry, Duece, didn't realize you hadn't had your birthday yet. How's third grade going, by the way?
it's going good. I learned how to multiply today! Was so fun

[bwink23]

What the hell is wrong with you?
You're telling me 21-25 year olds can beat up 30-35 year olds? :facepalm :oldlol:


Umm...what does that have to do with anything??? There are alot of factors that effect that outcome.

How old are you, seriously.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Umm...what does that have to do with anything??? There are alot of factors that effect that outcome.

How old are you, seriously.
I'm talking on AVERAGE
I'm 10 just like RRR3 said :D

[Mach_3]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/015/orly.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_dY-Ff5We7OI/SIRpF9YQdkI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/mAz6lSw0Qpk/s1600/Wilt7012Arnold6112.jpg

http://27.media.tumblr.com/OlSMHmDIaqjn99c7VcLXpxIwo1_500.jpg

You know guyz double the size of a 327lb dude?

Dayum u kno sum fat f_cks... of course they can't curl 100lbs :oldlol:


I obviously meant girth wise, and i'm not surprised he's over 300 at 7 ****ing feet tall. :lol I've seen dozens of dozens of vids and pics of wilt and i don't find that at all plausible. I'd believe he had a 450 lb bench press (even at that height) before i'd believe he could curl a 100 lb dumbbell in one hand. :roll: At my gym there are plenty of guys who make Wilt look like a string bean (i'm talking Phil Phister lites) and i've never once seen a curl with one hand close to 100 lb So excuse my skepticism :roll:

[RRR3]

it's going good. I learned how to multiply today! Was so fun
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/10/3/128675406851597408.jpg

[abuC]

That is a flat-out LIE....Your muscles are primed for strength and explosion in your 20's. Your "heaviness" increases as you age, but your don't "get stronger"...:rolleyes:

I got down to high school weight and fat index 2 years ago when i was 33...no matter how hard i tried, i still came in 20 pounds under my high school max bench. And i was taking Jack3D to kill the pain.


Train harder, the average age for strongman competitions is 32.

For explosive movements being in your early to mid 20s is a lot better, but for pure outright strength typically men in their early to mid 30s are stronger. All you have to do is check the ages of people who set powerlifting records, mostly early 30s.

You can attribute it to roids or HGH, but a lot of younger powerlifters are doing that as well.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wilt at 17

http://i38.tinypic.com/11ahisi.jpg

Wilt in mid 20s

http://images.collectors.com/smrweb/smr1206/5980054_Wilt_Chamberlain_76.jpg

Wilt 30+

http://www.thetoptensite.com/images/Wilt-Chamberlain-.jpeg

Common sense bwink

[HighFlyer23]

old senile fools in this thread trying to deny the truth about their idols from the 60s :lol

[bwink23]

I'm talking on AVERAGE
I'm 10 just like RRR3 said :D


I can gauge how old you are from your responses...your probably around 15 years old. Think your funny, know-it-all and all that stuff to be expected from young kids, and that's fine....but your arguing against nature and common sense.

Look no further than the best athletes in the world today....how old are they?? How many30-year olds do you know who are considered the best athletes in ANY sport?? i'm talking pure athleticism....your supposed to be an NBA fan, you should know what the ages of athletic peak are for basketball players.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I can gauge how old you are from your responses...your probably around 15 years old. Think your funny, know-it-all and all that stuff to be expected from young kids, and that's fine....but your arguing against nature and common sense.

Look no further than the best athletes in the world today....how old are they?? You know are 30-year olds who are considered the best athletes in ANY sport?? i'm talking pur athleticism....your supposed to be an NBA fan, you should know what the ages of athletic peak are for basketball players.
I'm talking about strength :facepalm and how big you are which is basically strength
For a 35 year old you're pretty stupid

[bwink23]

I'm talking about strength :facepalm and how big you are which is basically strength
For a 35 year old you're pretty stupid


Size doesn't equal strength.....like i said, your just being a brat...:facepalm

You don't "get stronger" as you age, that's just flat out silly....

[HighFlyer23]

I can gauge how old you are from your responses...your probably around 15 years old. Think your funny, know-it-all and all that stuff to be expected from young kids, and that's fine....but your arguing against nature and common sense.

Look no further than the best athletes in the world today....how old are they?? You know are 30-year olds who are considered the best athletes in ANY sport?? i'm talking pur athleticism....your supposed to be an NBA fan, you should know what the ages of athletic peak are for basketball players.

are you just retarded? youth and athleticism go hand and hand ... but you are at your strongest in your late 20s and early 30s when your metabolism has slowed down

was Jordan stronger during his later years or in his early years of athleticism? The body naturally loses athleticism and compromises for it in strength

[Deuce Bigalow]

Size doesn't equal strength.....like i said, your just being a brat...:facepalm

You don't "get stronger" as you age, that's just flat out silly....
ok...20 year olds are stronger than 30 year olds...
c'mon man

[HighFlyer23]

Size doesn't equal strength.....like i said, your just being a brat...:facepalm

You don't "get stronger" as you age, that's just flat out silly....

more mass = more "strength"

you peak in strength in the late 20s and early 30s and after that you're stagnant and then you begin to start to deteriorate ....



ok...20 year olds are stronger than 30 year olds...
c'mon man


developing bodies are stronger than developed bodies .... :facepalm

[bwink23]

are you just retarded? youth and athleticism go hand and hand ... but you are at your strongest in your late 20s and early 30s when your metabolism has slowed down

was Jordan stronger during his later years or in his early years of athleticism? The body naturally loses athleticism and compromises for it in strength


Jordan didn't start any strength training regimen until he was already 26, 27 years old....he wouldn't have been a skinny dude coming into the league if he had started his junior year in college...

This is all very much common sense.

[HighFlyer23]

Jordan didn't start any strength training regimen until he was already 26, 27 years old....he wouldn't have been a skinny dude coming into the league if he had started his junior year in college...

This is all very much common sense.

even if he didn't you still think a 23 year Jordan would be physically stronger than a 32 year old Jordan?

[Deuce Bigalow]

more mass = more "strength"

you peak in strength in the late 20s and early 30s and after that you're stagnant and then you begin to start to deteriorate ....





developing bodies are stronger than developed bodies .... :facepalm
bwinks is 35 and doesn't know this stuff and also doesn't know the difference between your and you're

[bwink23]

more mass = more "strength"

you peak in strength in the late 20s and early 30s and after that you're stagnant and then you begin to start to deteriorate ....





developing bodies are stronger than developed bodies .... :facepalm


That is not even a true statement....Your body mass consists of your bone density, fat index, and muscle mass....your body puts more fat on, and wants to hold onto that fat as you age. Your bone density also decreases as you age. You can appear bigger, but lack the lean muscle for the explosive movements when training for a specific sport. Not to mention to decrease in testosterone that robs you of the ABILITY to put on lean mass the much higher rate you can in your early 20's...

Again...this is all physiology 101.

[bwink23]

even if he didn't you still think a 23 year Jordan would be physically stronger than a 32 year old Jordan?


YES....a 23 year old Jordan who would have started lifting at 16 in high school (just like top recruits do these days) would be physically and more importantly FUNCTIONALLY stronger than he would be at 32.....His explosiveness would not even be comparable.

[abuC]

Jordan didn't start any strength training regimen until he was already 26, 27 years old....he wouldn't have been a skinny dude coming into the league if he had started his junior year in college...

This is all very much common sense.


That's not true man:



"Smith says Jordan is the hardest worker he's ever coached. In high school Jordan hustled so, he was nicknamed The Rabbit. Rabbit, run. When he enrolled at Chapel Hill, Jordan ran the 40-yard dash in 4.6 seconds. This fall he ran a 4.3. By running and lifting weights he has substantially built up his upper body and gained 12 pounds in two years, most of it in the shoulders."

[bwink23]

are you just retarded? youth and athleticism go hand and hand ... but you are at your strongest in your late 20s and early 30s when your metabolism has slowed down

was Jordan stronger during his later years or in his early years of athleticism? The body naturally loses athleticism and compromises for it in strength


Your metabolism would not be an issue as long as your eating the correct the amount of foods...Michael Phelps was known to take in 12,000 calories a day during training...on the surface he doesn't look like much, but in reality he's one the most explosive swimmers in Olympic history...the power he generates through the water is incredible.

[HighFlyer23]

osteopenia occurs in like your late 50s and 60s you moron

just stfu you have no idea how the body develops ... you are technically still "growing" in your early 20s ....

those explosive movements are related with youth and not so much on strength

[bwink23]

That's not true man:


OH MY BAD...he did a "little weight training " in college, but most of that mass is from MATURING from an 18 year old to a 21 year old. It is well known that Jordan would brag about not picking up a weight in the off-season early in his career(electing to play tons of golf), and still maintain his athleticism and slender physique....:facepalm

[Deuce Bigalow]

Your body starts going down hill at 40, not in your 30s.

[bwink23]

osteopenia occurs in like your late 50s and 60s you moron

just stfu you have no idea how the body develops ... you are technically still "growing" in your early 20s ....

those explosive movements are related with youth and not so much on strength


I know more than you do and that's obvious...you can still be strong in your late 20's...after that your testosterone dips...but to say "you get stronger as you age" is ridiculous. :facepalm

[bwink23]

Your body starts going down hill at 40, not in your 30s.


LOL....:facepalm ....WOW....do me a favor and GROW UP...."Testosterone loss in men is a gradual process. Testosterone decline starts around age 30, and may drop 1% to 3 % per year depending on genetics and lifestyle. That means that men can sustain a 20% drop in testosterone by age 50, and a 50% drop by age 80. Each man may experience the symptoms of a decline in testosterone differently depending on what his normal was at his hormonal peak. Often the symptoms are ignored or rationalized away until the resultant decreased functioning becomes a way of life."

[bwink23]

Your body starts going down hill at 40, not in your 30s.


CALL ME WHEN YOU TURN 35, and tell me you have the same energy, strength and explosiveness you did when you were 18...
That is assuming you will be lifting weights when your 18. I started when i was 15.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wilt at 17

http://i38.tinypic.com/11ahisi.jpg

Wilt in mid 20s

http://images.collectors.com/smrweb/smr1206/5980054_Wilt_Chamberlain_76.jpg

Wilt 30+

http://www.thetoptensite.com/images/Wilt-Chamberlain-.jpeg

Common sense bwink
again bwink that is how most men develop like

[CavaliersFTW]

Your body starts going down hill at 40, not in your 30s.

:facepalm

Tell that to all the NBA player's that never made it to 40. I wonder what KG or Tim Duncan has to say about that.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ag4U35aNZII/TEPNEKkLAaI/AAAAAAAAFNE/A3Tr1XeICkc/s1600/dumbass.jpg

[HighFlyer23]

LOL....:facepalm ....WOW....do me a favor and GROW UP...."Testosterone loss in men is a gradual process. Testosterone decline starts around age 30, and may drop 1% to 3 % per year depending on genetics and lifestyle. That means that men can sustain a 20% drop in testosterone by age 50, and a 50% drop by age 80. Each man may experience the symptoms of a decline in testosterone differently depending on what his normal was at his hormonal peak. Often the symptoms are ignored or rationalized away until the resultant decreased functioning becomes a way of life."

testosterone is highest in your late teenage years

are you strongest then??????

come on dude thats not how it works nor is that how the body develops ... these initial early testosterone decreases don't have that much of an impact on strength until later ...

[Deuce Bigalow]

:facepalm

Tell that to all the NBA player's that never made it to 40. I wonder what KG or Tim Duncan has to say about that.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ag4U35aNZII/TEPNEKkLAaI/AAAAAAAAFNE/A3Tr1XeICkc/s1600/dumbass.jpg
Strength wise. Not athletically.

[bwink23]

again bwink that is how most men develop like


AGAIN....for the slow person...strength and size are NOT the same. :facepalm

Of course people have a tendency to get bigger as they age...that's common sense...to say they "get stronger" is flat-out retarded.....:facepalm

[CavaliersFTW]

Strength wise. Not athletically.

Strength can be one of the last things to leave a man but as long as you don't confuse that with power (plus the health of your joints/etc), which all fades rather quickly. Power is strength times acceleration, which might be what bwink is referring too. You won't be doing things like leaping to your max vert or showing off youthful explosiveness into your early 30's, sometimes even your late 20's - to the same degree that you could when you were 21-25.

[bwink23]

testosterone is highest in your late teenage years

are you strongest then??????

come on dude thats not how it works nor is that how the body develops ... these initial early testosterone decreases don't have that much of an impact on strength until later ...


I started lifting weights when i was 15...my max bench by the time i was 18 was 245 pounds weighing 165....

I reached my near-high school mass index just 2 years ago...and was lifting naturally for 6 straight months...my max was 220...so you tell me.....:confusedshrug:

[Deuce Bigalow]

AGAIN....for the slow person...strength and size are NOT the same. :facepalm

Of course people have a tendency to get bigger as they age...that's common sense...to say they "get stronger" is flat-out retarded.....:facepalm
Are you alive? Do you not see people around you?
:facepalm
look at the average 20s year old guys and compare them to the 30 year olds
Common sense

[bwink23]

Are you alive? Do you not see people around you?
:facepalm
look at the average 20s year old guys and compare them to the 30 year olds
Common sense


AGAIN...your very slow....SIZE does not equal strength.

[Deuce Bigalow]

AGAIN...your very slow....SIZE does not equal strength.
most of the time it does
most 200 pound men are stronger than 160-180 pound men.

[HighFlyer23]

no a 120 lb dude who works out is more likely to be stronger than a more massive 250 lb guy who works out

no correlation between size and strength there ... more mas doesn't mean more strength ... skinny 200 lb jordan was FAR stronger than 220 lb Jordan who was beasting people in the post :hammerhead:

[bwink23]

no a 120 lb dude who works out is more likely to be stronger than a more massive 250 lb guy who works out

no correlation between size and strength there ... more mas doesn't mean more strength ... skinny 200 lb jordan was FAR stronger than 220 lb Jordan who was beasting people in the post :hammerhead:


Did you ever see a 24-year old Jordan who weighed 215-220?? WHY?? cuz he wasn't lifting...

23,24 year-old Jordan at 215 would be stronger and more explosive than a 32-year old Jordan at the same weight with the same routine....TRUE STATEMENT

[bwink23]

Didn't Greg Oden when he was 20 years old put on 30 pounds of upper body mass within a few months ??



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3115030

[abuC]

Didn't Greg Oden when he was 20 years old put on 30 pounds of upper body mass within a few months ??



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3115030


:roll: @ 30lbs of muscle in one year, dudes on gear put on maybe 15lbs of muscle in two years.


That's like that early season report stating LeBron and Wade were between 3-6% body fat, laughable stuff.

[FireDavidKahn]

Didn't Greg Oden when he was 20 years old put on 30 pounds of upper body mass within a few months ??



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3115030
And only a small percentage of that was muscle.

[bwink23]

And only a small percentage of that was muscle.


that's not what was reported...........:no:

stick to the facts son.

[bwink23]

:roll: @ 30lbs of muscle in one year, dudes on gear put on maybe 15lbs of muscle in two years.


That's like that early season report stating LeBron and Wade were between 3-6% body fat, laughable stuff.


If you believe that a 24-year old, 215 pound Jordan who's being weight training since 16-18 years old wouldn't be stronger and far more explosive than a 32-year old 215-pound Jordan who's been weight training since the same age.....

I got some swamp land i'd like to sell you......:roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

that's not what was reported...........:no:

stick to the facts son.
Upper body mass does not equal lean muscle. Read some real facts, son.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/maki2.htm


The Colgan Institute of Nutritional Sciences (located in San Diego, CA) run by Dr Michael Colgan PHD, a leading sport nutritionist explains that in his extensive experience, the most muscle gain he or any of his colleagues have recorded over a year was 18 1/4 lbs. Dr Colgan goes on to state that "because of the limiting rate of turnover in the muscle cells it is impossible to grow more than an ounce of new muscle each day."

[bwink23]

Upper body mass does not equal lean muscle. Read some real facts, son.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/maki2.htm


DUH....everyone knows that...thanks for making my point to the other idiots here for me that size does not equal strength.....:hammerhead:

He still put on 30 pounds of upper-body weight through lifting no matter how you want to slice it...:facepalm

[Lebron23]

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/men-action/201202/wilt-chamberlain-human-and-superhuman

[AirFederer]

http://images.collectors.com/smrweb/smr1206/5980054_Wilt_Chamberlain_76.jpg

- 500 lbs bench press
- 50" vertical
- Curl 100 lb DBs as easily as we can pick up our phones
- Beat up a mountain lion and threw it by its tail
- Slept with 20,000 women, jlauber's mom being one of them
- Dunked his freethrows in high school
- Dunked the ball so hard that it crushed the opponents toes
- Could average 70 points per game in the 90's
- At age 59 he could bench 465 lbs like it was a match stick
- Clean and jerk 435 lbs
- A world class volleyball player, in Volleyball Hall of Fame

That`s a hell yes from me!! :cheers:

[HighFlyer23]

You'd think he'd win more than 2 rings tho

[Asukal]

You'd think he'd win more than 2 rings tho

ILt couldn't fake his ring count even if he tried. :oldlol:

[eliteballer]

You can find similar tall tales about many celebrities prior to I'd say the 70's.

It's mostly BS at the end of the day.

[Dr Hawk]

- Dunked the ball so hard that it crushed the opponents toes


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[razzredazzre]

What would've happened to the league/basketball if he didn't wear condoms? Wouldn't we have 7 footers with a 40 inch vertical on every block? or is he just lying that he slept with that much women? :confusedshrug:

[AirFederer]

https://i.imgflip.com/w4s9h.gif

[DaRkJaWs]

Let's talk about the final wilt "tall tale" that's not really a tale and has been confirmed by almost anyone that played with him. His manlihood, i.e. His **** size. He was said to be carrying around a monster in his pants, and there is this story that in the 70s a lot of reporters went into the locker room to interview wilt, and wilt had "forgot" to wear his underwear or towel. So he was answering questions in the nude, and of all people Marv Albert was there to hide wilts ***** from the cameras...how he did this I'm unsure of but he says in his sports career it was one of his most embarrassing moments. Anyone who can share stories of this please do!!

Now let's think of the the 2 players he's typically compared to...MJ and Shaq. Both players have reputedly small c0cks given their size. And bad in bed too rofl. Wilt? He was an alpha in the sack, that's the troof.

[warriorfan]

Let's talk about the final wilt "tall tale" that's not really a tale and has been confirmed by almost anyone that played with him. His manlihood, i.e. His **** size. He was said to be carrying around a monster in his pants, and there is this story that in the 70s a lot of reporters went into the locker room to interview wilt, and wilt had "forgot" to wear his underwear or towel. So he was answering questions in the nude, and of all people Marv Albert was there to hide wilts ***** from the cameras...how he did this I'm unsure of but he says in his sports career it was one of his most embarrassing moments. Anyone who can share stories of this please do!!

Now let's think of the the 2 players he's typically compared to...MJ and Shaq. Both players have reputedly small c0cks given their size. And bad in bed too rofl. Wilt? He was an alpha in the sack, that's the troof.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[oarabbus]

Let's talk about the final wilt "tall tale" that's not really a tale and has been confirmed by almost anyone that played with him. His manlihood, i.e. His **** size. He was said to be carrying around a monster in his pants, and there is this story that in the 70s a lot of reporters went into the locker room to interview wilt, and wilt had "forgot" to wear his underwear or towel. So he was answering questions in the nude, and of all people Marv Albert was there to hide wilts ***** from the cameras...how he did this I'm unsure of but he says in his sports career it was one of his most embarrassing moments. Anyone who can share stories of this please do!!

Now let's think of the the 2 players he's typically compared to...MJ and Shaq. Both players have reputedly small c0cks given their size. And bad in bed too rofl. Wilt? He was an alpha in the sack, that's the troof.


Yeah unless you can provide a link I'm gonna say that sounds more like fantasy than reality :rolleyes:

[DaRkJaWs]

Someone posted this: "I heard Wilt Chamberlain had to tape his to the inside of his leg to keep it from flopping around like an elephant's trunk during games."

From http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=700399

[DaRkJaWs]

Lol found it:

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[TommyGriffin]

DaRkJaWs > CavsFTW

[deja vu]

Every time I feel down and depressed, I open this thread to cheer me up.

[Euroleague]

Video footage taken from inside Wilt's house....

https://media2.giphy.com/media/Gi3OeSrfwjhHa/200.gif