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Living Being
02-26-2012, 11:45 PM
The end of this ASG almost seemed like a moment where a dying grandmaster gives some final advice to his student, but the student acts like a douche, and later realizes the wisdom he has foolishly tossed in the trash was actually epic.

Hopefully LeBron will take it to heart....but probably not.

Kobe with the "Shoot the @#$#ing ball!" advice.... That was some seriously great advice he gave him there. Like...."wtf is wrong with you, kid?"

Kobe showed he wasn't afraid to take the shots, even though he kept getting owned by Wade.

I don't like either of them, but Kobe has something LeBron will never have.
They both have plenty of pride and ego, but only one of them is willing to step into a do or die moment to decide their career.

RazorBaLade
02-26-2012, 11:47 PM
dying grandmaster jesus christ wtf

SwooshReturns
02-26-2012, 11:47 PM
Is that what he told LeBron? Could you hear it during the telecast? What was LeBron's reaction? haha

Heavincent
02-26-2012, 11:48 PM
That was priceless :roll:

When Lebron went to inbound it Kobe was so bewildered :lol

Stern
02-26-2012, 11:49 PM
lol black mamba

Kobe was the real mvp

Living Being
02-26-2012, 11:50 PM
Is that what he told LeBron? Could you hear it during the telecast? What was LeBron's reaction? haha
Kobe screamed at him after he passed the ball away and blew the game. He mouthed the words "shoot the ball" or something similar.

He was telling him he missed a great opportunity to be the game winner, basically.

The_Yearning
02-26-2012, 11:50 PM
Lmao you could read Kobe's lips so easily....

"Shoot the mother-fvcking ball!!"

LBJ was trying to laugh it off but this will hit him hard just like how D-Wade did in in last year's finals... sorry Miami this dude is mentally broken now.

HighFlyer23
02-26-2012, 11:50 PM
lol the whole league thinks lebron is a b*tch now :lol

Babalu
02-26-2012, 11:51 PM
http://h12.abload.de/img/untitled-3676ug4.gif

Living Being
02-26-2012, 11:52 PM
Thanks Babalu.

Kobe was actually being so helpful to LeBron there and the kING will never realize it.

pauk
02-26-2012, 11:52 PM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif

konex
02-26-2012, 11:53 PM
http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-3676ug4.gif

:hammerhead:

talkingconch
02-26-2012, 11:53 PM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif

uh oh its pauk everybody :roll: wat a joke poster

Living Being
02-26-2012, 11:54 PM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif
Yes, we all know LeBron has plenty of fun in the first 45 minutes of the game.

bwink23
02-26-2012, 11:54 PM
The end of this ASG almost seemed like a moment where a dying grandmaster gives some final advice to his student, but the student acts like a douche, and later realizes the wisdom he has foolishly tossed in the trash was actually epic.

Hopefully LeBron will take it to heart....but probably not.

Kobe with the "Shoot the @#$#ing ball!" advice.... That was some seriously great advice he gave him there. Like...."wtf is wrong with you, kid?"



Kobe showed he wasn't afraid to take the shots, even though he kept getting owned by Wade.

I don't like either of them, but Kobe has something LeBron will never have.
They both have plenty of pride and ego, but only one of them is willing to step into a do or die moment to decide their career.


Lebron is not Kobe's student...their games aren't even remotely similar...:facepalm

I didn't realize anything that went down in an All-star game was a "do or die" situation.:wtf:

Bladers
02-26-2012, 11:55 PM
Kobe was going hard on this ***** about being scared to shoot it... shit was hilarious. :roll: :roll:

longtime lurker
02-26-2012, 11:55 PM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif

:roll: :roll: Is the sky pink in the world you live bro?

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
02-26-2012, 11:57 PM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif


you are so fcuking retard its not even funny...u dumb piece of sh1t

Heavincent
02-26-2012, 11:57 PM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)


http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0911/im-not-in-denial-denial-reality-japanese-rockabilly-demotivational-poster-1259575578.jpg

BrooklynZoo
02-26-2012, 11:57 PM
Lmao you could read Kobe's lips so easily....

"Shoot the mother-fvcking ball!!"


u sure? lol

RazorBaLade
02-26-2012, 11:57 PM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif

your role model in life is a giant ****ing *****

Extempo
02-26-2012, 11:57 PM
What a stupid thread. First of all, Wade didn't own Kobe...he played Kobe like this was a Finals game, even making his nose bleed. THAT was embarrassing. Kobe still had 27 pts and his team won the game.

As for Lebron, one thing he'll always do is choke...whether it is an all-star game or a finals game. He plays like a scrub in the last 2 mins. You either have it or you don't. I don't like Durant but he has it. Lebron is in his 9th season, he will never have it.

Deuce Bigalow
02-26-2012, 11:58 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif

This always makes me laugh when haters use it
Look at the time :oldlol: ****ing moron :facepalm Way to risky to throw a pass with 2-3 seconds left, use your brain.

hops and stops
02-26-2012, 11:58 PM
If LeBron had Kobe's mentality in the clutch, he'd seriously have GOAT potential. I truly believe it.

The all-time NBA greats have more-or-less all been a bit on the self-confident and even cocky side... Jordan, Wilt, Kobe, Magic, Duncan, Shaq... these guys haven't made every big shot they've taken, but they have always been confident enough in their own abilities to take them. To demand the ball.

LeBron needs to develop that attitude.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
02-26-2012, 11:59 PM
This always makes me laugh when haters use it
Look at the time :oldlol: ****ing moron :facepalm Way to risky to throw a pass with 2-3 seconds left, use your brain.


u need to have brain to use it

ImmortalD24
02-26-2012, 11:59 PM
This always makes me laugh when haters use it
Look at the time :oldlol: ****ing moron :facepalm Way to risky to throw a pass with 2-3 seconds left, use your brain.
Kobe also had 11 assists that game.

bwink23
02-27-2012, 12:01 AM
This always makes me laugh when haters use it
Look at the time :oldlol: ****ing moron :facepalm Way to risky to throw a pass with 2-3 seconds left, use your brain.


I can post 5 more shots just as bad as that one with more time on the clock.....:facepalm

Kobe is the worst shot taker in the history of the game...DENIAL is an ugly thing.

SwooshReturns
02-27-2012, 12:01 AM
LeBron needs to develop that attitude.
It's innate, bro

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
02-27-2012, 12:01 AM
If LeBron had Kobe's mentality in the clutch, he'd seriously have GOAT potential. I truly believe it.

The all-time NBA greats have more-or-less all been a bit on the self-confident and even cocky side... Jordan, Wilt, Kobe, Magic, Duncan, Shaq... these guys haven't made every big shot they've taken, but they have always been confident enough in their own abilities to take them. To demand the ball.

LeBron needs to develop that attitude.

you are born with it or you dont have it...u cant develop it

bwink23
02-27-2012, 12:02 AM
Kobe also had 11 assists that game.


Apparently Kobe felt like he used up his assists then...cuz that was a RETARDED shot.

Eric Cartman
02-27-2012, 12:02 AM
If LeBron had Kobe's mentality in the clutch, he'd seriously have GOAT potential. I truly believe it.

The all-time NBA greats have more-or-less all been a bit on the self-confident and even cocky side... Jordan, Wilt, Kobe, Magic, Duncan, Shaq... these guys haven't made every big shot they've taken, but they have always been confident enough in their own abilities to take them. To demand the ball.

LeBron needs to develop that attitude.

After 9 NBA seasons do you think he can still develop it?

Deuce Bigalow
02-27-2012, 12:02 AM
I can post 5 more shots just as bad as that one with more time on the clock.....:facepalm

Kobe is the worst shot taker in the history of the game...DENIAL is an ugly thing.
You're as dumb as pauk is :facepalm

TheAesirsFinest
02-27-2012, 12:03 AM
How nice of Kobe to give him that advice, as roughly as he did :o

LeBron, as your fan, please listen to your senior in Kobe. You have all the potential, you just gotta use it.

Also, lmao @ "you're either born with it or you don't have it". ****ing LOL at that dumbass shit. "Clutch gene" nonsense.

MidRange
02-27-2012, 12:03 AM
Kobe was like "Shoot the ****in ball" Bron was like "He was open!" Kobe said "It dont ****ing matter!"

nnn123
02-27-2012, 12:03 AM
someone needs to GIF this ish up, or link me to some youtube videos. I missed the end of the game because the 1st 3 quarters where so insanely boring and not an ounce of defense was being played, even in the beginning of the 4th

PickernRoller
02-27-2012, 12:04 AM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif

making fun of yourself now. On two different threads the same post.

asdf1990
02-27-2012, 12:05 AM
When lebron was in bounding Kobe also said something like "wtf are you doing" for the final play

Bladers
02-27-2012, 12:08 AM
WallaceHeatNBA (https://twitter.com/#!/WallaceNBA_ESPN/status/173978666232061952) Michael Wallace
LeBron confirms that Kobe was telling him to shoot the ball in those key stages that led to late turnover.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

BallsOut
02-27-2012, 12:08 AM
pauk on suicide watch already?

The Choken One
02-27-2012, 12:08 AM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif
http://i.qkme.me/353mtc.jpg

EDIT: lol'd hard...even Melo is clownin' on LeBron.

Stern
02-27-2012, 12:09 AM
Should have given the ball to melo

Foster5k
02-27-2012, 12:11 AM
lol the whole league thinks lebron is a b*tch now
Um, no. Lebron is the best player in the league.

d21221hk
02-27-2012, 12:12 AM
Lebron needs the kobe system

bwink23
02-27-2012, 12:14 AM
You're as dumb as pauk is :facepalm


Hey, don't shoot the messenger kid....i'm not the one throwing up the garbage. But hey, i guess having the "courage to take those shots" should count for something. :rolleyes:

Babalu
02-27-2012, 12:17 AM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif


I can post 5 more shots just as bad as that one with more time on the clock.....:facepalm

Kobe is the worst shot taker in the history of the game...DENIAL is an ugly thing.

http://imgboot.com/images/Babalu/fckingfggot.gif (http://imgboot.com/user/Babalu/images/fckingfggot.gif)

strifed169
02-27-2012, 12:23 AM
lebron is a bitch for that 1, every1 knows he should have taken the last shot, no matter what, HE WAS HOT, we say this all the time whenever this happens but now I really think he is afraid of these moments

sfballa13
02-27-2012, 12:42 AM
Wade is confident of hitting the game winning shot and he hasnt taken a 3 this yr.

Bron goes 6-8 and is really hot and is scared to take a game winner in the most meaningless game of the year.

Kobe goes out of his way to tell him this. To try and teach him what it takes to be a LEGEND and he shrugs it off like its stupid advice.

Lebron's big balding head is too big for his own good

SwooshReturns
02-27-2012, 12:45 AM
pauk on suicide watch already?
And it isn't even the Finals, yet

:oldlol:

LeBron needs to watch the movie Troy ... or actually be like the character Gladiator, Maximus whose quote he has tattooed on his leg.

In the Finals is IMMORTALITY, don't be scared ... TAKE IT, it's YOURS !!!

WeGetRing2012
02-27-2012, 12:46 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif

For everyone of those there is one of these

http://gifsoup.com/view/89431/kobe-game-winner-vs-heat-o.gif

Can't be a winner if you're scared to fail. That's a rule of life.

NoGunzJustSkillz
02-27-2012, 12:53 AM
What the fck kind of pass was that? To decide the game, really lebron?

BGriffin's Dad
02-27-2012, 12:55 AM
lebron my dog u need some courage

http://www.israel-smith.com/thoughts/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Courage-Wolf-Banner.jpg

305Baller
02-27-2012, 01:01 AM
The end of this ASG almost seemed like a moment where a dying grandmaster gives some final advice to his student, but the student acts like a douche, and later realizes the wisdom he has foolishly tossed in the trash was actually epic.

Hopefully LeBron will take it to heart....but probably not.

Kobe with the "Shoot the @#$#ing ball!" advice.... That was some seriously great advice he gave him there. Like...."wtf is wrong with you, kid?"

Kobe showed he wasn't afraid to take the shots, even though he kept getting owned by Wade.

I don't like either of them, but Kobe has something LeBron will never have.
They both have plenty of pride and ego, but only one of them is willing to step into a do or die moment to decide their career.

Kobe wants to seize the moment every time. He is a consistent SG , maybe 2nd best of all-time. LeBron knows he should listen to that... or maybe not.

305Baller
02-27-2012, 01:02 AM
you are born with it or you dont have it...u cant develop it

maybe it's maybelline.

305Baller
02-27-2012, 01:04 AM
http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-3676ug4.gif
there was no shot there, he should of passed to the guy at the top but tried too hard to make a play for wade.

NoGunzJustSkillz
02-27-2012, 01:05 AM
http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-3676ug4.gif
there was no shot there, he should of passed to the guy at the top but tried too hard to make a play for wade.
lol melo looks all geeked out.

bwink23
02-27-2012, 01:07 AM
For everyone of those there is one of these

http://gifsoup.com/view/89431/kobe-game-winner-vs-heat-o.gif

Can't be a winner if you're scared to fail. That's a rule of life.

Kobe is like 37 for 122 in game winning shot situations....so NO, there are NOT 1 for 1......:no:

hkfosho
02-27-2012, 01:07 AM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif

and ppl actually think pauk is a legit poster :oldlol:

Bigsmoke
02-27-2012, 01:12 AM
LeBron was the reason why the game was even close in the first place right?

NoGunzJustSkillz
02-27-2012, 01:13 AM
LeBron was the reason why the game was even close in the first place right?
Story of his life right?

WeGetRing2012
02-27-2012, 01:16 AM
Kobe is like 37 for 122 in game winning shot situations....so NO, there are NOT 1 for 1......:no:

I have watched Kobe his whole career I don't care what the stats say Kobe as lead the Lakers more times than he has came up short. Hence the banners that he has helped put up. Being clutch doesn't just happen in the final seconds of a game...

lbj23clutch
02-27-2012, 01:17 AM
http://h12.abload.de/img/untitled-3676ug4.gif
:roll:

Melo's reaction. LeBron should have listened to Kobe.

PJR
02-27-2012, 01:19 AM
Kobrick's advice: Throw up bricks, and let your talented mobile bigs bail you out.

The_Yearning
02-27-2012, 01:30 AM
maybe it's maybelline.

Better ask D-Wade 'bout them soft lips

RazorBaLade
02-27-2012, 01:34 AM
Kobrick's advice: Throw up bricks, and let your talented mobile bigs bail you out.

ALL WE DO IS WIN

no losers at kobes lunch table sry

305Baller
02-27-2012, 01:38 AM
Kobrick's advice: Throw up bricks, and let your talented mobile bigs bail you out.

:D

LakersReign
02-27-2012, 01:45 AM
Seems like Kobe was really telling Lebron to shoot the ball. It's obvious no matter how hard Lebronytes try, Lebron DOES NOT, have the mentality of a "stone cold assassin" when it comes to closing out games, ASG, or not. Jordan, Magic, Bird, all had it, Lebron clearly doesn't. If he's scared to take the last shot in an ASG, what the hell is he going to do in the Finals?

longtime lurker
02-27-2012, 01:55 AM
Kobe is like 37 for 122 in game winning shot situations....so NO, there are NOT 1 for 1......:no:

Yet he keeps winning......

HurricaneKid
02-27-2012, 03:33 AM
I have watched Kobe ...I don't care what the stats say....

LOL

LakersReign
02-27-2012, 05:13 AM
Once again.... nice try........ Lebron was easily the best player of this game, he killed it... those clutch 3's in Kobes face over and over made them come back from being down 10+ points....

the situations at the end were the result of:

1. Thibs decision (if u did watch the game you would notice Thibs call a timeout and make the plays & decisions to inbound Lebron or pass the ball to Deron Chokerwilliams)
2. getting doubleteamed
3. unselfishness (he did as you notice play PG/point-forward tonight)



AND NO..... LEBRON SHOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS MAN, THIS IS WHAT KOBE WANTED LEBRON TO DO:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view6/2423850/selfish-kobe-o.gif


pauk + this post = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc

1:10, is what he tried to do when Lebron made that pass:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Jasi
02-27-2012, 06:25 AM
The funny thing is not only that he didn't shoot the ball and went for the safer play, but that he also FAILED the safer play :D

All LeQuit stans keep saying 'he's not a egoistic choker, he makes the best play for the team'... LOL what can they say now that he turned the ball over

Richesly
02-27-2012, 06:33 AM
I don't get it. He took the shots in Cleveland.

In the playoffs against the Magic he hit a 3 pointer game winner over someone.

I think hes capable.. it's just he won't do it.

zizozain
02-27-2012, 09:22 AM
:roll:

sekachu
02-27-2012, 12:24 PM
The end of this ASG almost seemed like a moment where a dying grandmaster gives some final advice to his student, but the student acts like a douche, and later realizes the wisdom he has foolishly tossed in the trash was actually epic.

Hopefully LeBron will take it to heart....but probably not.

Kobe with the "Shoot the @#$#ing ball!" advice.... That was some seriously great advice he gave him there. Like...."wtf is wrong with you, kid?"

Kobe showed he wasn't afraid to take the shots, even though he kept getting owned by Wade.

I don't like either of them, but Kobe has something LeBron will never have.
They both have plenty of pride and ego, but only one of them is willing to step into a do or die moment to decide their career.




Failure makes players grow like MJ and kobe. They were not born to be the best. Both are work ethic beast and mentally strong but the key what made them successful attribute not afraid to fail and never back down. This is what lebron has been lacking of. He is doing the right thing on the court but sometimes you can tell he wanted to run away when the game is on the line. He could be very clutch during in the third quarter or in the middle of fourth quarter but he always disappeared in the final minute. He is bigger, stronger, more athletes than MJ and kobe but his heart never as strong as them.

bih
02-27-2012, 12:29 PM
lol at you thinking kobe was giving real advice

kobe is notorious trashtalker


he knew lebron would miss thats why he told lebron to shoot

jrong
02-27-2012, 12:38 PM
This is such a stupid notion. LeBron taking a contested 25 foot three will prove he's the man? Regardless of whether a teammate has a better shot?

If he hadn't hesitated on the pass, Wade was free in the corner with an angle for a baseline drive and jam. An even better play would've been to kick it to Melo who was open for the pass and couldn't have had a cleaner look at a shot.

LakersReign
02-27-2012, 01:17 PM
This is such a stupid notion. LeBron taking a contested 25 foot three will prove he's the man? Regardless of whether a teammate has a better shot?

If he hadn't hesitated on the pass, Wade was free in the corner with an angle for a baseline drive and jam. An even better play would've been to kick it to Melo who was open for the pass and couldn't have had a cleaner look at a shot.


Lebron was money from behind the arc, so naturally, people would expect him to take the shot. Dude passed TWICE, and threw it away the second time. If he had taken the shot and missed, no big deal. But to be hot from 3 and not take the shot, makes no sense.

RRR3
02-27-2012, 01:19 PM
Lebron was money from behind the arc, so naturally, people would expect him to take the shot. Dude passed TWICE, and threw it away the second time. If he had taken the shot and missed, no big deal. But to be hot from 3 and not take the shot, makes no sense.
Dude seriously, are you bipolar? Why do you post like this (normal) sometimes, and then do the whole "you (insert name) are obviously heated! :lol Nice try!:applause: owned (insert name) by me (Lakersreign) again! I rest my case! :applause: "


??? :confusedshrug:

LBJ 23
02-27-2012, 01:42 PM
Lebron was money from behind the arc, so naturally, people would expect him to take the shot. Dude passed TWICE, and threw it away the second time. If he had taken the shot and missed, no big deal. But to be hot from 3 and not take the shot, makes no sense.



:roll: :roll: :roll:


Who are you lying to? Look at all the haters(including you) talking about him not taking the last shot and can you even imagine how much sh!t would we be reading on here if he had taken the last shot and missed it?

LakersReign
02-27-2012, 01:51 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:


Who are you lying to? Look at all the haters(including you) talking about him not taking the last shot and can you even imagine how much sh!t would we be reading on here if he had taken the last shot and missed it?


Ok....so....wait....let me get this straight. Lebron should've passed and made a turnover INSTEAD of taking the 3, when he was making them all night. Keeping in mind, people like you say he's the next Jordan, or supposed to be better than Jordan. Also keeping in mind, Jordan would've taken the 3?! So...what you're really saying is that Lebron really is overhyped, and can't live up to those expectations....right?!:hammerhead:

Well, at least you're all FINALLY admitting it:lol

ILLsmak
02-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Being scared to shoot when you are a the best player in the NBA is kind of hilarious.

That's Kobe's best trait: he doesn't care. When you are good at something, you have to ball out. Talk about it later. If you miss the shot, be like oh well.

Like with Kobe, Kobe has missed so many game winners that he's just like whatever.

LeBron is worried about the reaction. He just needs to miss a few then it'll be ok.

But on that play, they had LeBron covered. And had good zone coverage. LeBron threw a stupid pass. he totally cracked.

-Smak

Lebron23
02-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Ok....so....wait....let me get this straight. Lebron should've passed and made a turnover INSTEAD of taking the 3, when he was making them all night. Keeping in mind, people like you say he's the next Jordan, or supposed to be better than Jordan. Also keeping in mind, Jordan would've taken the 3?!:hammerhead:

Just keep telling yourself that:sleeping

:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping

LakersReign
02-27-2012, 01:54 PM
Being scared to shoot when you are a the best player in the NBA is kind of hilarious.

That's Kobe's best trait: he doesn't care. When you are good at something, you have to ball out. Talk about it later. If you miss the shot, be like oh well.

Like with Kobe, Kobe has missed so many game winners that he's just like whatever.

LeBron is worried about the reaction. He just needs to miss a few then it'll be ok.

But on that play, they had LeBron covered. And had good zone coverage. LeBron threw a stupid pass. he totally cracked.

-Smak


But remember now, he's supposed to be better than Jordan:facepalm

Lebron23
02-27-2012, 01:58 PM
But remember now, he's supposed to be better than Jordan:facepalm

Who said that? Please stop posting some nonsense in this forum.

White Mamba
02-27-2012, 02:00 PM
its funny to me.

you all saying its not a big deal if you miss, but when kobe miss in the clutch the henry abbot's of this forum are in full force:oldlol:

sometimes you need to pass it, but that pass was so bad its not funny, if he pass it to melo i say ok, melo can hit big shots, but to pass to wade that pass was so bad and easy to read.

White Mamba
02-27-2012, 02:01 PM
Who said that? Please stop posting some nonsense in this forum.

funny coming from u:oldlol:

LBJMVP
02-27-2012, 02:02 PM
Who said that? Please stop posting some nonsense in this forum.

lebron has been the chosen one since junior year in high school.

http://i.cnn.net/money/2007/04/27/commentary/sportsbiz/si_cover.03.jpg

to bad he is afraid to take the last shot in an all star game, so he throws a cross court one handed pass that has no shot a getting to the player :facepalm

White Mamba
02-27-2012, 02:06 PM
http://h12.abload.de/img/untitled-3676ug4.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll: melo LMAO

LBJ 23
02-27-2012, 02:06 PM
Ok....so....wait....let me get this straight. Lebron should've passed and made a turnover INSTEAD of taking the 3, when he was making them all night. Keeping in mind, people like you say he's the next Jordan, or supposed to be better than Jordan. Also keeping in mind, Jordan would've taken the 3?! So...what you're really saying is that Lebron really is overhyped, and can't live up to those expectations....right?!:hammerhead:

Well, at least you're all FINALLY admitting it:lol



lol, you're stupid. Making fairytales about what I say or think about Lebron and at the same time trying to change the subject from my first post. :oldlol: :oldlol:

You said that if he had taken the last shot and missed it, no big deal, when we all know that if that happened, you would probably organize a party and invite Bladers and Phong and all three of you would be making a gif and toasting to his missed shot :hammerhead:

AlexanderRight
02-27-2012, 02:15 PM
God, this forum tries so hard. :facepalm Yeah. He should have shot a contested long jumper 25 feet away from the basket while being double teamed instead of passing to his open teammates that happen to be the best players in the world. :facepalm

Those weren't bad calls. Deron had an open look on the first shot and Lebron just hesitated a second too long (plus Blake's hustle) that caused the turnover. Of course some of this board already have an agenda in play though. Regardless, he played terrific and the game was absolute fun. Idk, why they don't play the whole game like that. 3 quarters of lobs and uncontested dunks followed by the most epic 12 of basketball play.

Ronaldinho
02-27-2012, 02:26 PM
Being scared to shoot when you are a the best player in the NBA is kind of hilarious.

That's Kobe's best trait: he doesn't care. When you are good at something, you have to ball out. Talk about it later. If you miss the shot, be like oh well.

Like with Kobe, Kobe has missed so many game winners that he's just like whatever.

LeBron is worried about the reaction. He just needs to miss a few then it'll be ok.

But on that play, they had LeBron covered. And had good zone coverage. LeBron threw a stupid pass. he totally cracked.

-Smak
He missed plenty.Phong has hundreds gifs of missed game winners from Lebron last year.

coin24
02-27-2012, 02:29 PM
Clearly a dumb pass.. Basically due to LeBron panicking, which is the point here really..
He had no intention of taking a shot:facepalm
Melo was open aswell:oldlol:


Wonder what Kobe was saying to him there, its funny how Lebron seems to cower away in situations like that!! :lol if this happens in June again..


Wade with a great post game interview aswell, why was the play called for you?, "Cause im a shot maker!":roll:

SwooshReturns
02-27-2012, 02:34 PM
Kobe said something to him again when he went to in bound the ball. He was giggled and then asked why he was throwing the ball in bounds. haha ... everyone stays clowning LeShook

AlphaWolf24
02-27-2012, 02:51 PM
1 Gif of Kobe missing a 3 pointer with wide open teamates...

1 Gif of Lebron scared to shoot and passing to wide open teammate then having his pass intercepted....


just by those 2 Gif's...without ever knowing anything about both players...I would know who who the 5X Champ is.


"Coach!.......Just Give me the ball....and get out of my way"

OhNoTimNoSho
02-27-2012, 03:18 PM
I am a completely unbiased entity, I like Kobe and Lebron equally, and dislike them equally, have no preference to each one, and it is obvious that LeBron messed up by not taking the shot. The reason that its obvious is because it was the Allstar game where he was on fire and just made some really tough 3s. Everyone knows lebron is hot.. at this point they WANT him to shoot all the shots regardless of difficulty, because he is going to be MVP if they win. EVERYONE KNEW THIS.... except lebron. Kobe was the only one with balls to say it to LeBron's face. Lebron should have shot it regardless of how tough the shot was, unless there was someone extremely open. IT was just the natural thing to do. Everyone knew it... except lebron. Maybe he knew it, but was scared. I dunno, but it is a clear flaw in his thinking.

TheMan
02-27-2012, 03:19 PM
I don't see where the downside of shooting a last second shot in the ASG is for LeBron, I didn't like the fact that didn't even try it, it's like he's afraid of failing...:confusedshrug:

LakersReign
02-27-2012, 03:20 PM
lol, you're stupid. Making fairytales about what I say or think about Lebron and at the same time trying to change the subject from my first post. :oldlol: :oldlol:

You said that if he had taken the last shot and missed it, no big deal, when we all know that if that happened, you would probably organize a party and invite Bladers and Phong and all three of you would be making a gif and toasting to his missed shot :hammerhead:

Which is exactly what he's doing in the second paragraph. Talk about pure self ownage:roll:

AlphaWolf24
02-27-2012, 03:51 PM
God, this forum tries so hard. :facepalm Yeah. He should have shot a contested long jumper 25 feet away from the basket while being double teamed instead of passing to his open teammates that happen to be the best players in the world. :facepalm

Those weren't bad calls. Deron had an open look on the first shot and Lebron just hesitated a second too long (plus Blake's hustle) that caused the turnover. Of course some of this board already have an agenda in play though. Regardless, he played terrific and the game was absolute fun. Idk, why they don't play the whole game like that. 3 quarters of lobs and uncontested dunks followed by the most epic 12 of basketball play.


so let's get this straight...

You are supposedly the best player on the planet....ISH says you have amazing "Per" (whatever that means)...you have good FG% (whatever that correlates to?) you are on fire nailing fallaway 3's left and right...

You are in the zone and are unconsious from 3 point land....with the game on the line do you

A. Rise up and take the shot, win or lose it's on you...you are the man.
B. Pass it to a wide open Carmelo who is a great clutch shooter but not shooting well
C. Pass it to a teammate at the other corner of the court who has taken one 3 pointer all year.



Lebron shook as hell:roll:

La Frescobaldi
02-27-2012, 03:56 PM
so let's get this straight...

You are supposedly the best player on the planet....ISH says you have amazing "Per" (whatever that means)...you have good FG% (whatever that correlates to?) you are on fire nailing fallaway 3's left and right...

You are in the zone and are unconsious from 3 point land....with the game on the line do you

A. Rise up and take the shot, win or lose it's on you...you are the man.
B. Pass it to a wide open Carmelo who is a great clutch shooter but not shooting well
C. Pass it to a teammate at the other corner of the court who has taken one 3 pointer all year.



Lebron shook as hell:roll:

LOLOLOLOL BAIL ME OUT AGAIN D WADE!! BAIL ME OUT!!

TheMan
02-27-2012, 04:44 PM
Unfortunatly the narrative on LBJ is that he shies away from the big moment, he'll have a monster game for 45 mins then in crunch time, he defers to lesser players.

It's not only ISH, the media is gonna give hum a hard time until he steps it up in crunch time like Bird, Magic, MJ, Kobe etc.

That's what people expect from the best player, man up and get your team the win.

Of course legendary players of the past also missed game winning shots, it's the fact that LBJ hasn't taken them lately that bothers NBA fans...like MJ said in that commercial..."l've failed that's why I succeed" or something like that:lol

Still wondering why he just wouldn't take a last second shot in a meanigless game :confusedshrug

EllisGW
02-27-2012, 04:46 PM
if you think taking a fadeway 27 ft shot would be a good move, you should quit watching basketball because you obvisouly dont understand it.

LakersReign
02-27-2012, 05:27 PM
I just find it real telling when half the people in here, thump their chests about how much they supposedly know about basketball. But yet it's a foreign concept to them, that it's not the shot, it's the failure to take the shot, in a game where it's more about bragging rights than anything else. If he hesitates to take the shot in a meaningless game, what is he going to do in a situation where it's a game on the line? Keeping in mind now, as per a lot of them, Lebron is supposed to be the next big thing in basketball. But like I said before, they claim to know about basketball, but yet still to them, this whole concept is a bit too complicated.:facepalm

SwooshReturns
02-27-2012, 05:29 PM
if you think taking a fadeway 27 ft shot would be a good move, you should quit watching basketball because you obvisouly dont understand it.
Once again, how do you see his only option being a 27 foot fadeaway? He had the whole right side of the court to operate. Drive to the hole, dribble hard and pull up. At 6'8 w/ his leaping ability and strength he'd get a great shot off no matter what. Instead he made a TERRIBLE play and threw a cross court pass to the strong side of the court w/ the most defenders. In this case, yes even a 35 foot fadeaway would've been the better decision.

:facepalm

305Baller
02-27-2012, 05:33 PM
he did have a couple of seconds to make a move. he rushed the pass.

pegasus
02-27-2012, 05:43 PM
so let's get this straight...

You are supposedly the best player on the planet....ISH says you have amazing "Per" (whatever that means)...you have good FG% (whatever that correlates to?) you are on fire nailing fallaway 3's left and right...

You are in the zone and are unconscious from 3 point land....with the game on the line do you

A. Rise up and take the shot, win or lose it's on you...you are the man.
B. Pass it to a wide open Carmelo who is a great clutch shooter but not shooting well
C. Pass it to a teammate at the other corner of the court who has taken one 3 pointer all year.



Lebron shook as hell:roll:

Pauk: Lebron ALWAYS makes the right decision. He is so UNSELFISH. He is the GOAT:roll:

Disaprine
02-27-2012, 05:49 PM
bwink and pauk getting butthurt. :roll:

great thread. :applause:

HurricaneKid
02-27-2012, 05:55 PM
Once again, how do you see his only option being a 27 foot fadeaway? He had the whole right side of the court to operate. Drive to the hole, dribble hard and pull up. At 6'8 w/ his leaping ability and strength he'd get a great shot off no matter what. Instead he made a TERRIBLE play and threw a cross court pass to the strong side of the court w/ the most defenders. In this case, yes even a 35 foot fadeaway would've been the better decision.

:facepalm

Jordan also passed to Paxson who won them a championship.

Kobe was on LeBron and KD was set to trap to LBJs right. He didn't have a high percentage play. You don't pull up off the dribble against a double team from 28 feet. I don't understand anyone who thinks that is the play. If the pass gets through Wade is 1-on-1 on Blake. I like them odds. It was a poor pass in that he missed his target by a wide margin. But passing out of a trap/DT isn't the bad play.

It actually shocks me so many people have come out saying he should have shot it. He probably should have found Melo. But shooting from 28 on a double team off the dribble can't be a 8% shot.

Living Being
02-27-2012, 06:02 PM
Melo was laughing not just because LeBron failed at taking a shot, but because he just threw a hail mary to the mass of East and West players on the opposite side of the court instead of passing it to him when he was wide open.
Melo was waving for the ball as he was getting open before LeFail blew the pass.

Double fail for LeBron. Kobe and Melo both stunned for different reasons, and Melo laughing at LeFail's stuttering excuses.

Replay32
02-27-2012, 06:09 PM
In fairness to Lebron, he's not used to having the luxury of throwing up bricks in the clutch and winning the game anyway due to having bigs who can get Offensive Rebounds and/or tip/dunk the ball back in.

Props to kobe for the advice though. :rolleyes:

LakersReign
02-27-2012, 06:12 PM
In fairness to Lebron, he's not used to having the luxury of throwing up bricks in the clutch and winning the game anyway due to having bigs who can get Offensive Rebounds and/or tip/dunk the ball back in.

Props to kobe for the advice though. :rolleyes:

0/6,000,000

Replay32
02-27-2012, 06:16 PM
0/6,000,000


:applause:

LakersReign
02-27-2012, 06:18 PM
:applause:

You do realize that this was an All-Star game and NOT a regular game....right?! Which makes your last post all the more hilarious since it really had nothing to do with anything. Thanks for agreeing with me that it truly was a colossal fail:roll:

RonySeikalyFTL
02-27-2012, 06:29 PM
Career game winners in playoffs:

Kobe: 7/25 (including missing his last 5)

Lebron: 5/12 (missed his last 2)

I dunno maybe Lebron should be giving advice to Kobrick?

AlphaWolf24
02-27-2012, 06:40 PM
Jordan also passed to Paxson who won them a championship.

Kobe was on LeBron and KD was set to trap to LBJs right. He didn't have a high percentage play. You don't pull up off the dribble against a double team from 28 feet. I don't understand anyone who thinks that is the play. If the pass gets through Wade is 1-on-1 on Blake. I like them odds. It was a poor pass in that he missed his target by a wide margin. But passing out of a trap/DT isn't the bad play.

It actually shocks me so many people have come out saying he should have shot it. He probably should have found Melo. But shooting from 28 on a double team off the dribble can't be a 8% shot.


Jordan also won multiple championships before the play trusting it to Pax....Jordan also was notorious for not passing and trying to win it all by himself...

Lebron was in the same position (except on the other side of the court) that he was prevoisly and nailed 2 fallaway 3 pointers and was clearly the East best player...he was on fire and decided to pass up multiple crunchtime shots ....


Lebron should have shot it...not passed to Wade who only made one 3 pointer all year

RonySeikalyFTL
02-27-2012, 07:08 PM
Jordan also won multiple championships before the play trusting it to Pax....Jordan also was notorious for not passing and trying to win it all by himself...

Lebron was in the same position (except on the other side of the court) that he was prevoisly and nailed 2 fallaway 3 pointers and was clearly the East best player...he was on fire and decided to pass up multiple crunchtime shots ....


Lebron should have shot it...not passed to Wade who only made one 3 pointer all year

Nahh man I think Kobrick and all of his fanboys are tired of him holding the NBA record for most bricked game winners and want someone else to take over. That's why Kobrick was all upset (oh and also because Lebron hit all those threes in his eye earlier).

Doctor Rivers
02-27-2012, 07:11 PM
Career game winners in playoffs:

Kobe: 7/25 (including missing his last 5)

Lebron: 5/12 (missed his last 2)

I dunno maybe Lebron should be giving advice to Kobrick?

KoME CRYant!!!

RonySeikalyFTL
02-27-2012, 07:20 PM
KoME CRYant!!!

Pretty much.

I love how all the Kobe stans won't touch that post you quoted with a 10 foot pole because it actually has... gasp... factual information!

They'll just wait a while and then say something like "Lebron will never be like Kobe because he doesn't have the killer instinct!"

Meticode
02-27-2012, 07:27 PM
I don't get it. He took the shots in Cleveland.

In the playoffs against the Magic he hit a 3 pointer game winner over someone.

I think hes capable.. it's just he won't do it.
He doesn't want the responsibility anymore. He took these shots in Cleveland and was decently successful at them. The Cavs @ Warriors game a few years ago when he made a pull up jumper at the buzzer to beat the Warriors and then the biggest made shot in LeBron's career which was the 3 pointer that beat Orlando to tie in 1-1 in that playoff series 3 years ago.

The only thing I think of is he just doesn't want that responsibility anymore. And technically if you don't want it because you're afraid to fail, it goes to show that you really don't want to win the game either.

bleedinpurpleTwo
02-27-2012, 07:32 PM
Either:
a) he is mentally done...just can't do it (as evidenced by two Finals).
or
b) he is smart enuf to defer to his more clutch teammate..who CAN do it.

In any case, I have given up my belief that Lebron will pass Bird for greatest all time SF.

Indian guy
02-27-2012, 07:45 PM
Either:
a) he is mentally done...just can't do it (as evidenced by two Finals).

LeBron's 4th quarter no-shows as a Heat are 85% physical, 15% mental. There's simply no getting around the fact that he was the league's most productive late-game player from 04-10 in BOTH regular season and playoffs.

http://www.backpicks.com/2011/01/10/the-nbas-best-players-in-the-clutch-since-2003/
http://www.backpicks.com/2011/02/03/clutch-play-since-2004-playoff-numbers/


b) he is smart enuf to defer to his more clutch teammate..who CAN do it.

Wade's a better player than LeBron and Top 3 overall, but the biggest myth about the NBA is that Wade's clutch. He's NOT. There's absolutely nothing out there, be it the eye-test or every available close-game metric, that supports his reputation of being a clutch basketball player.

bleedinpurpleTwo
02-27-2012, 07:48 PM
LeBron's 4th quarter no-shows as a Heat are 85% physical, 15% mental. There's simply no getting around the fact that he was the league's most productive late-game player from 04-10 in BOTH regular season and playoffs.

http://www.backpicks.com/2011/01/10/the-nbas-best-players-in-the-clutch-since-2003/
http://www.backpicks.com/2011/02/03/clutch-play-since-2004-playoff-numbers/



Wade's a better player than LeBron and Top 3 overall, but the biggest myth about the NBA is that Wade's clutch. He's NOT. There's absolutely nothing out there, be it the eye-test or every available close-game metric, that supports his reputation of being a clutch basketball player.

Finals.

chazzy
02-27-2012, 07:49 PM
Wade's a better player than LeBron and Top 3 overall, but the biggest myth about the NBA is that Wade's clutch. He's NOT. There's absolutely nothing out there, be it the eye-test or every available close-game metric, that supports his reputation of being a clutch basketball player.
So true. His 06 run gave him a rep that's carried over all these years, but he hasn't been all that great in close games.

ballashotcalla
02-27-2012, 08:23 PM
Lebron mad that Jeremy Lin stole the sportscenter highlights.

Now he and Wade got some attention. lol

Cali Syndicate
02-27-2012, 09:11 PM
I can post 5 more shots just as bad as that one with more time on the clock.....:facepalm

Kobe is the worst shot taker in the history of the game...DENIAL is an ugly thing.

And yet Jordan still feels Kobe is a better player than Lebron. Ain't that some shit...

DirtySanchez
02-27-2012, 09:13 PM
Kobe would of shot it twice!!!

TeamLAC
02-27-2012, 09:15 PM
Career game winners in playoffs:

Kobe: 7/25 (including missing his last 5)

Lebron: 5/12 (missed his last 2)

I dunno maybe Lebron should be giving advice to Kobrick?

LMAO are you joking or are you actually being serious? :facepalm

longtime lurker
02-27-2012, 09:19 PM
It's so sad that Kobe respects the hell out of Lebron and is trying to help him reach his potential, yet Lebron fans constantly hate on Kobe for some reason.

Lebron23
02-27-2012, 09:29 PM
It's so sad that Kobe respects the hell out of Lebron and is trying to help him reach his potential, yet Lebron fans constantly hate on Kobe for some reason.


Kobe stans are the worst fans in this forum.

Dictator
02-27-2012, 09:49 PM
Career game winners in playoffs:

Kobe: 7/25 (including missing his last 5)

Lebron: 5/12 (missed his last 2)

I dunno maybe Lebron should be giving advice to Kobrick?

:lol Do you know how inaccurate that is considering Kobe recently hit a game winner on the raptors and Lebron bricked two game winners against the goldenstate.....


I don’t really like 82games’ definition.. I feel it puts way too much into a clutch. For example, if there’s 5 minutes left, with the Lakers up 5, and Kobe makes a shot.. that counts as him being 1-1 in the clutch. That’s much different than being down 2 with 4 seconds on the clock.

http://www.mixmakers.net/basketball/kobe-vs-lebron-last-10-seconds-clutch-stats/



Lebron James

03-04: 0/5 (0%)

04-05: 2/8 (25%)

05-06: 2/5 (40%)

06-07: 1/10 (10%)

07-08: 5/11 (45%)

08-09: 1/4 (25%)

09-10: 1/8 (13%)

10-11: 1/7 (14%)

Total: 13/58 (22%)

Kobe Bryant

03-04: 3/10 (30%)

04-05: 2/7 (29%)

05-06: 2/11 (18%)

06-07: 2/11 (18%)

07-08: 1/3 (33%)

08-09: 2/6 (33%)

09-10: 7/11 (64%)

10-11: 2/5 (40%)

Total: 21/64 (33%)

TheAesirsFinest
02-27-2012, 09:52 PM
:lol Do you know how inaccurate that is considering Kobe recently hit a game winner on the raptors and Lebron bricked two game winners against the suns.....

I can't even remember the Lakers vs. Raptors Finals or the Cavs/Heat vs. Suns Finals. Can you enlighten me?

Dictator
02-27-2012, 10:02 PM
I can't even remember the Lakers vs. Raptors Finals or the Cavs/Heat vs. Suns Finals. Can you enlighten me?

my bad, I meant goldenstate.

Lakers Vs. Raptors Final Score: Kobe Bryant Game-Winner Saves L.A. From Embarrassing Loss
http://losangeles.sbnation.com/los-angeles-lakers/2012/2/11/2793028/lakers-vs-raptors-nba-schedule-kobe-bryant-toronto-demar-derozan-pau-gasol

Above is Kobe with the game winner on the Raptors.


LeBron James disappears - only 3 points in 4th quarter / overtime vs Warriors 01-10-2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi7ZxDtYkig

Above is Lebron bricking the game winner against the warriors

longtime lurker
02-27-2012, 10:05 PM
Kobe stans are the worst fans in this forum.

Yeah I'm sure :rolleyes:

TheAesirsFinest
02-27-2012, 10:08 PM
Career game winners in playoffs:

Kobe: 7/25 (including missing his last 5)

Lebron: 5/12 (missed his last 2)

I dunno maybe Lebron should be giving advice to Kobrick?


:lol Do you know how inaccurate that is considering Kobe recently hit a game winner on the raptors and Lebron bricked two game winners against the goldenstate.....


:confusedshrug:

Dictator
02-27-2012, 10:11 PM
:confusedshrug:

Can't find any credible playoff clutch stats

Overall Kobe's still more clutch...

Simple Jack
02-27-2012, 10:13 PM
Do you know how inaccurate that is considering Kobe recently hit a game winner on the raptors and Lebron bricked two game winners against the goldenstate....

He was referring to the playoffs. I think he made that pretty clear in his post...

Dictator
02-27-2012, 10:15 PM
Above x2

Deltron3030
02-27-2012, 11:57 PM
Career game winners in playoffs:

Kobe: 7/25 (including missing his last 5)

Lebron: 5/12 (missed his last 2)

I dunno maybe Lebron should be giving advice to Kobrick?

Yeah it's amazing how Kobe gets this clutch 4th quarter/end of game rep. A lot of it is the media pushing it on the fans, who all they see are flashy highlights. A kobe fan will bring up one game winning shot against the rapters and ignore the previous game winning shots or missed free throws. I'm not saying he isn't great, so chill kobe fans. Hell, I think he might be top 3 in the NBA currently if not the best, but he is far far far from clutch. He has never been as clutch as the media and his fans portray him. Look at his recent playoff runs, that finals against the celtics where he got bailed out, hell even this last all-star game, he was missing all the important shots and free-throw. If anyone is clutch on the lakers, it's D-Fish. He has bailed Kobe out of so many bad shots countless times. I guarantee D-Fish has more "clutch moments" than kobe ever has.

Simple Jack
02-28-2012, 12:16 AM
Yeah it's amazing how Kobe gets this clutch 4th quarter/end of game rep. A lot of it is the media pushing it on the fans, who all they see are flashy highlights. A kobe fan will bring up one game winning shot against the rapters and ignore the previous game winning shots or missed free throws. I'm not saying he isn't great, so chill kobe fans. Hell, I think he might be top 3 in the NBA currently if not the best, but he is far far far from clutch. He has never been as clutch as the media and his fans portray him. Look at his recent playoff runs, that finals against the celtics where he got bailed out, hell even this last all-star game, he was missing all the important shots and free-throw. If anyone is clutch on the lakers, it's D-Fish. He has bailed Kobe out of so many bad shots countless times. I guarantee D-Fish has more "clutch moments" than kobe ever has.

Saying he's not as clutch as the media/his fans make him out to be is one thing. Saying he's far from clutch is another and is absurd.

Has he been the best in game winning situations or in close games? No. Has he been effective at winning games despite getting more defensive attention than nearly every player in the NBA (at the end of close games)? Absolutely.

Jasper
02-28-2012, 12:25 AM
I watched a replay of this probably a dozen times , and quite frankly came to a simple conclussion of what Melo and Kobe said to Lebron , after he passed up the shot and passed the ball......

Kobe was literally not goating him into shooting the ball , and trying to one up him..

Kobe was literally guiding Lebron into taking the shoot , become the hero of the game and be MVP.
Literally wanting Lebron to get the monkey off his back about taking 4th qtr shoots and literally if he missed or made the shot , it would not of cared.
Point on was to take the shoot in this meaningless game, to use it as a stepping stone for his career.
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Even when Melo came up to Lebron , while Kobe was there - it was vindication that they truely want Lebron to succeed on all levels.

I've watched a number of these all-star games over the years , and quite frankly , before the game starts there is a tone set , and if a player is in position to become the MVP : players will set them up .
Lebron was set up in this game : and it was a fail.

:applause: Total respect to Kobe , Melo , Wade , Pierce for the gamemanship they brought :applause:


*Durant became MVP on default , because the West won the game.

La Frescobaldi
02-28-2012, 09:56 AM
I watched a replay of this probably a dozen times , and quite frankly came to a simple conclussion of what Melo and Kobe said to Lebron , after he passed up the shot and passed the ball......

Kobe was literally not goating him into shooting the ball , and trying to one up him..

Kobe was literally guiding Lebron into taking the shoot , become the hero of the game and be MVP.
Literally wanting Lebron to get the monkey off his back about taking 4th qtr shoots and literally if he missed or made the shot , it would not of cared.
Point on was to take the shoot in this meaningless game, to use it as a stepping stone for his career.
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Even when Melo came up to Lebron , while Kobe was there - it was vindication that they truely want Lebron to succeed on all levels.

I've watched a number of these all-star games over the years , and quite frankly , before the game starts there is a tone set , and if a player is in position to become the MVP : players will set them up .
Lebron was set up in this game : and it was a fail.

:applause: Total respect to Kobe , Melo , Wade , Pierce for the gamemanship they brought :applause:


*Durant became MVP on default , because the West won the game.

that is exactness right there.

stallionaire
02-28-2012, 10:07 AM
Kobe being the 'Assassin' of the league is a myth fronted by guys like Skip Bayless to discredit LeBron.

I want LeBron taking all the 4th quarter shots if i'm an NBA coach. It's ****ing LeBron.

stallionaire
02-28-2012, 10:08 AM
I'm going to say this on Melo's confused look to LeBron after the game. He wasn't hassling him because he inbounded the ball. Melo knew well before the play was drawn up that LBJ would be inbounding. He was upset that LBJ passed it across court into Blake's hands instead of right to him for the open shot at the top of the key.

It seems like a lot of you guys didn't watch the game and you're just fabricating all these little side stories.

Kobe gave shit to LeBron but there wasn't anything to it, not trying to give him 'legendary advice' (smfh only a 13 year old would think this).

Ronaldinho
02-28-2012, 10:16 AM
I watched a replay of this probably a dozen times , and quite frankly came to a simple conclussion of what Melo and Kobe said to Lebron , after he passed up the shot and passed the ball......

Kobe was literally not goating him into shooting the ball , and trying to one up him..

Kobe was literally guiding Lebron into taking the shoot , become the hero of the game and be MVP.
Literally wanting Lebron to get the monkey off his back about taking 4th qtr shoots and literally if he missed or made the shot , it would not of cared.
Point on was to take the shoot in this meaningless game, to use it as a stepping stone for his career.
-------------
Even when Melo came up to Lebron , while Kobe was there - it was vindication that they truely want Lebron to succeed on all levels.

I've watched a number of these all-star games over the years , and quite frankly , before the game starts there is a tone set , and if a player is in position to become the MVP : players will set them up .
Lebron was set up in this game : and it was a fail.

:applause: Total respect to Kobe , Melo , Wade , Pierce for the gamemanship they brought :applause:


*Durant became MVP on default , because the West won the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvOHbxBAEN8

R.I.P.
02-28-2012, 10:51 AM
Kobe is a genius.

Kobe embarrassed Bron in front of the whole world by giving him a lecture like his daddy and now his other daddy Wade will have trouble with Rebel Bron, who

Ronaldinho
02-28-2012, 10:55 AM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Kobe is a genius.

Kobe embarrassed Bron in front of the whole world by giving him a lecture like his daddy and now his other daddy Wade will have trouble with Rebel Bron, who

Blue&Orange
02-28-2012, 11:42 AM
Kobe is right, Lebron unwillingness to shoot is as dumb as his headband-to-hide-hairline thing.

Not Kobe fault that nobody had the balls to call him out, and give him some "legendary advice" to pass the ball to a open teammate instead of shooting it with 3 guys on him.

HurricaneKid
02-28-2012, 11:47 AM
And yet Jordan still feels Kobe is a better player than Lebron. Ain't that some shit...

And if anyone know talent evaluation its the GM of the worst team in NBA history.

Johnni Gade
02-28-2012, 12:11 PM
They see me TROLLING

Lavachebeadsman
02-28-2012, 12:30 PM
This made me lol so hard at the time. As much as I hate Kobe, what he said was right. Lebron needs to quit being a *****.

Ashgar404
02-28-2012, 12:35 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Kobe is a genius.

Kobe embarrassed Bron in front of the whole world by giving him a lecture like his daddy and now his other daddy Wade will have trouble with Rebel Bron, who

bleedinpurpleTwo
02-28-2012, 01:14 PM
Kobe being the 'Assassin' of the league is a myth fronted by guys like Skip Bayless to discredit LeBron.

I want LeBron taking all the 4th quarter shots if i'm an NBA coach. It's ****ing LeBron.

Article:
On the first real official day of All-Star Weekend in Orlando, both All-Star Teams were available to the media this afternoon, and Wade was asked who he

pegasus
02-28-2012, 01:23 PM
I want LeBron taking all the 4th quarter shots if i'm an NBA coach. It's ****ing LeBron.

It really doesn't matter what the NBA coaches or the other NBA players say about who should take the last shot; what matters is what Lebron thinks himself.

He has shown time and time again that he does not think he should be the one to take the last second game winning/losing shot.

He tried several times in the regular season last year, and failed each time. So I think he has learned his lesson, and he won't take it again unless he lets what his critics say go into his head.

I understand it, I accept that he doesn't have it in him, and I don't condemn him for it. I just don't call him "the best", and this is why.

All Net
02-28-2012, 02:19 PM
It really doesn't matter what the NBA coaches or the other NBA players say about who should take the last shot; what matters is what Lebron thinks himself.

He has shown time and time again that he does not think he should be the one to take the last second game winning/losing shot.

He tried several times in the regular season last year, and failed each time. So I think he has learned his lesson, and he won't take it again unless he lets what his critics say go into his head.

I understand it, I accept that he doesn't have it in him, and I don't condemn him for it. I just don't call him "the best", and this is why.

If he has it in him to take the big shots vs both Celtics and Bulls in the playoffs I don't think it is down to him not wanting it. I do think it is a problem for him and I get the feeling he doesn't know wether it should go to Wade or not. He sees a guy who has been a franchise player for years and is just tempted to let him make the big plays...He does need to play with more confidence and I get the feeling all this wouldn't be happening if he was the lone star.

His 4th quarter points stats this season havn't been bad at all. It was last year in the regular season where he was terrible and in the finals. In the 2nd round and conference finals he was very good in the clutch...Miami need a go to guy all the time not taking turns which to me seems to be the big issue with him. He doesn't know when to attack or when to let Wade take it.

Although this hasn't been the case lately as Miami are just straight killing teams.