How did Smashing Pumpkins become so underrated?

[Clippersfan86]

I don't understand why bands such as Nirvana are still immortalized while even better bands like the Pumpkins are forgotten. Top 5 drummer of all time. Billy Corgan is often considered a top 10 rock guitarist all time, had one of the most unique voices ever and was a brilliant lyricist. KILLER bassists too.

Basically a nearly flawless band. Not only that but Smashing Pumpkins has tons of deep, legit songs. I have the greatest hits and I feel like it doesn't even include 10+ songs that deserve to be on there. It should be a double CD because that's how many good songs Corgan wrote.

Thoughts on Smashing Pumpkins? Why aren't they more popular even now?

[LJJ]

Underrated? lol.

It's overrated, pretentious tripe with zero musical value.

[chains5000]

I don't understand why bands such as Nirvana are still immortalized while even better bands like the Pumpkins are forgotten. Top 5 drummer of all time. Billy Corgan is often considered a top 10 rock guitarist all time, had one of the most unique voices ever and was a brilliant lyricist. KILLER bassists too.

Basically a nearly flawless band. Not only that but Smashing Pumpkins has tons of deep, legit songs. I have the greatest hits and I feel like it doesn't even include 10+ songs that deserve to be on there. It should be a double CD because that's how many good songs Corgan wrote.

Thoughts on Smashing Pumpkins? Why aren't they more popular even now?
Seriously?:oldlol:

[LJJ]

What's next? Billy Corgan's "poetry" book is underrated too? :oldlol:

I still laugh at that shit, that shit was awful.

[JohnnySic]

They are/were a great band. Thing is, they are an acquired taste; their music isn't catchy.

And they are not better than Nirvana. :no:

[gigantes]

there's like 60+ years of top musicians in rock and you're saying that smashing pumpkins had two of the best ones of all time? yea, i don't think so.

and smashing pumpkins is a nice band, but the idea that they're underrated is ridiculous. they were HUGE back in their heyday... not too many years ago.

[Story Up]

I don't understand why bands such as Nirvana are still immortalized while even better bands like the Pumpkins are forgotten. Top 5 drummer of all time. Billy Corgan is often considered a top 10 rock guitarist all time, had one of the most unique voices ever and was a brilliant lyricist. KILLER bassists too.

Basically a nearly flawless band. Not only that but Smashing Pumpkins has tons of deep, legit songs. I have the greatest hits and I feel like it doesn't even include 10+ songs that deserve to be on there. It should be a double CD because that's how many good songs Corgan wrote.

Thoughts on Smashing Pumpkins? Why aren't they more popular even now?
Another one of your stupid over reaction threads.
Better then Nirvana? Too ten guitarist?
You must be thinking of another band cuz it ain't TSP.

[rufuspaul]

their music isn't catchy.


:wtf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aeETEoNfOg&ob=av2e

[Old Duders Head]

I guess people decided that pumpkins had other uses besides being smashed. Like being eaten or carved into lamps.

[rhythmic]

:bowdown:
:wtf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aeETEoNfOg&ob=av2e

Is good as this song is, there really isn't another SP song that is memorable to me. Thru The Eyes of Ruby was good, but this band is pretty forgettable to me.

Despite 1979 being one of my favorite songs of the 90's.
It's not on this level... :oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbgKEjNBHqM

And that's probably not one of the ten best songs from Nirvana, I just tried to make Smashing look respectable here.

[rufuspaul]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[blablabla]

they are a good band but not one of the all time greats

[the_chosen_1]

I agree that SP is underrated.

Comparing SP to Nirvana is kinda hard, but truth be told, while Nirvana was great their lasting power has more to due with the fact that they were breaking ground and changing our thoughts about music and of course a tragic death.

SP>Nirvana

[Randy]

I don't understand why bands such as Nirvana are still immortalized while even better bands like the Pumpkins are forgotten. Top 5 drummer of all time. Billy Corgan is often considered a top 10 rock guitarist all time, had one of the most unique voices ever and was a brilliant lyricist. KILLER bassists too.

Basically a nearly flawless band. Not only that but Smashing Pumpkins has tons of deep, legit songs. I have the greatest hits and I feel like it doesn't even include 10+ songs that deserve to be on there. It should be a double CD because that's how many good songs Corgan wrote.

Thoughts on Smashing Pumpkins? Why aren't they more popular even now?

http://c.images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15342578.jpg

[Story Up]

I agree that SP is underrated.

Comparing SP to Nirvana is kinda hard, but truth be told, while Nirvana was great their lasting power has more to due with the fact that they were breaking ground and changing our thoughts about music and of course a tragic death.

SP>Nirvana

What did SP do exactly?
Beside hVe one of their songs be noticed, really. Lol

[ROCSteady]

I got excellent value for the Smashing Pumpkins in the Battle of the Bands Draft. Y'all can venture there late tonight or tomorrow and check out the beastly track I submitted for them in Round 1. I'm Gunn kick boy BankShot all over the cyber streets then give him an electronic curb stomp.

[the_chosen_1]

What did SP do exactly?
Beside hVe one of their songs be noticed, really. Lol


? You mean besides write alot of good music?
Popularity does not equate to quality, just look at whats popular now and reflect on its quality and lasting power.

[stallionaire]

overrated garbage. they had 1 good album.. melon collie..

[Nick Young]

I don't understand why bands such as Nirvana are still immortalized while even better bands like the Pumpkins are forgotten. Top 5 drummer of all time. Billy Corgan is often considered a top 10 rock guitarist all time, had one of the most unique voices ever and was a brilliant lyricist. KILLER bassists too.

Basically a nearly flawless band. Not only that but Smashing Pumpkins has tons of deep, legit songs. I have the greatest hits and I feel like it doesn't even include 10+ songs that deserve to be on there. It should be a double CD because that's how many good songs Corgan wrote.

Thoughts on Smashing Pumpkins? Why aren't they more popular even now?
Bolded is untrue. And Smashing Pumpkins is in my top 3 favorite bands of all time ever list.

Nirvana and Pumpkins are different. Also Nirvana is immortalized today because they put out like 3 perfect albums then the lead singer martyrized himself. So basically they went out at the peak of their game before they could put out a clunker album which is why they are so legendary now.

If pumpkins went out after melon collie and the infinite sadness with Billy Corgan committing Hari Kari they would be just as big today as Nirvana.

Pumpkins are great, I love Machina, Machina II, Ava Adore, even Zeitgeist, but they have alot of bad songs and I get why critics hate those albums.

Gish, Melon colie, Siamese Dream are just as good as any nirvana album, only difference is nirvana died and pumpkins petered out.

If Kurt Cobaine didnt kill himself they'd probably be seen as Pearl Jam is today, dedicated cult following, recognition from the critics but not the massive giant band they were considered in their heyday.

[DeuceWallaces]

Rated appropriately. Couple good albums. Lucky to have the social and media attention they get. Intensely popular for a few years but all things pass.

[Nick Young]

What did SP do exactly?
Beside hVe one of their songs be noticed, really. Lol
one of their songs? IDIOT.

Gish-sick as hell psychaedelic epic riffage
Siamese Dream-best album of the 90s.
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness-top 5 album of the 90s.

ONE song be notice?
Today
Disarm
Thirty-Three
Rocket
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Everlasting Gaze
Zero
Cherub Rock
Eye
Rhinocerous
1979
Tonight, Tonight
Muzzle

All massive singles

You're a dumbass.
Educate yourself retard
SIVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3wAtWywrP4&ob=av3e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmUZ6nCFNoU&ob=av3e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1acEVmnVhI&feature=relmfu

[blablabla]

how can anybody like zeitgeist that album is horrible

[Nick Young]

overrated garbage. they had 1 good album.. melon collie..
siamese dream stupid

[Poodle]

i-liked-Smashing-Pumpkin's-back-in-the-day...

i-don't-think-they're-underrated-tho...i-put-them-on-the-same-level-as-NatalieMerchant/10000Maniacs,or-even-Evanescence.

if-anyones-underrated-in-this-style-of-music-its-the-Cranberries:pimp:

[Nick Young]

i-liked-Smashing-Pumpkin's-back-in-the-day...

i-don't-think-they're-underrated-tho...i-put-them-on-the-same-level-as-NatalieMerchant/10000Maniacs,or-even-Evanescence.

if-anyones-underrated-in-this-style-of-music-its-the-Cranberries:pimp:
lawl is this that ****** loner asian kid Godzuki?:roll: :roll: :roll:

[rhythmic]

one of their songs? IDIOT.

Gish-sick as hell psychaedelic epic riffage
Siamese Dream-best album of the 90s.
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness-top 5 album of the 90s.

ONE song be notice?
Today
Disarm
Thirty-Three
Rocket
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Everlasting Gaze
Zero
Cherub Rock
Eye
Rhinocerous
1979
Tonight, Tonight
Muzzle

All massive singles

You're a dumbass.
Educate yourself retard
SIVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3wAtWywrP4&ob=av3e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmUZ6nCFNoU&ob=av3e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1acEVmnVhI&feature=relmfu

This is exactly why they are not underrated, if anything they're extremely overrated. "All massive singles", honestly just shut up! People like you are the reason that the public despises certain things without giving them a fair chance. SP were never as good as you made them out to be, and then you're calling someone else an idiot for not liking the band?

You do know music depends on preference right? "Idiot".

If Siamese Dreams is the best album of the 90's, then I'm better then LeBron at basketball. :rolleyes:

You named like 4 good rock songs from that list; why are you name calling when you're wrong. The band just wasn't as great as their cult tries to justify they were, sorry.

Nirvana? Forget about it, and it had NOTHING to do with the death of Cubain. They were simply a much better band, and a hell of a lot more influential.

[Poodle]

lawl is this that ****** loner asian kid Godzuki?:roll: :roll: :roll:


is-this-the-balding-boy-band-kid-that-wears-clarkkent-glasses?:roll: :roll:

you-bet-its-godzuki-homo

[Poodle]

one of their songs? IDIOT.

Gish-sick as hell psychaedelic epic riffage
Siamese Dream-best album of the 90s.
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness-top 5 album of the 90s.

ONE song be notice?
Today
Disarm
Thirty-Three
Rocket
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Everlasting Gaze
Zero
Cherub Rock
Eye
Rhinocerous
1979
Tonight, Tonight
Muzzle

All massive singles

You're a dumbass.
Educate yourself retard
SIVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3wAtWywrP4&ob=av3e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmUZ6nCFNoU&ob=av3e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1acEVmnVhI&feature=relmfu


lol@this-boy-band-fgt-gettin-all-seerious-and-mad-over-music:oldlol:

:facepalm

[Nick Young]

is-this-the-balding-boy-band-kid-that-wears-clarkkent-glasses?:roll: :roll:

you-bet-its-godzuki-homo
Lawl Godzukihomo, is that what you named yourself sport?:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Find any internet friends yet, sport?:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Poodle]

Lawl Godzukihomo, is that what you named yourself sport?:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Find any internet friends yet, sport?:roll: :roll: :roll:


;lol@calling-people-"sport":facepalm

and-i'm-still-shocked-that-you-and-millwad-coincidentally-used-the-term-'kiddo-too...never-seen-anyone-really-use-that-term-EVER...only-probably-some-movie-where-some-8yrold-bully-was-pickin-on-lil-kids-playing-in-the-sandbox....and-ISH-has-2-of-them:facepalm

thats-the-kiind-of-lingo-that-makes-me-cringe-in-RL...and-you're-not-even-foreign-so-you-got-no-excuse-fgt...just-some-sorry-shit:facepalm

[Nick Young]

;lol@calling-people-"sport":facepalm

and-i'm-still-shocked-that-you-and-millwad-coincidentally-used-the-term-'kiddo-too...never-seen-anyone-really-use-that-term-EVER...only-probably-some-movie-where-some-8yrold-bully-was-pickin-on-lil-kids-playing-in-the-sandbox....and-ISH-has-2-of-them:facepalm

thats-the-kiind-of-lingo-that-makes-me-cringe-in-RL...and-you're-not-even-foreign-so-you-got-no-excuse-fgt...just-sorry:facepalm
lawl, you mad, kiddo? Where's your spacebar, sport? Too poor to afford a new one?

Find any friends yet, sport?:confusedshrug:

[andgar923]

I don't understand why bands such as Nirvana are still immortalized while even better bands like the Pumpkins are forgotten. Top 5 drummer of all time. Billy Corgan is often considered a top 10 rock guitarist all time, had one of the most unique voices ever and was a brilliant lyricist. KILLER bassists too.

Basically a nearly flawless band. Not only that but Smashing Pumpkins has tons of deep, legit songs. I have the greatest hits and I feel like it doesn't even include 10+ songs that deserve to be on there. It should be a double CD because that's how many good songs Corgan wrote.

Thoughts on Smashing Pumpkins? Why aren't they more popular even now?

I'm a big Pumpkins fan, and I do agree that time has forgotten about them. But I completely disagree with your assessment that Corgan is a top 10 guitarist and that the drummer is top 5.... wayyyyy off base.

I do agree that Corgan has a unique voice, but I think that this is also why some don't generally dislike them or dismiss them, similar to why some people don't like Radiohead.

[rufuspaul]

I know I'm gonna sound like a dick, but that is not my intent, I'm legitimately surprised by this...


People over 16 listen to them? I can't imagine anyone other than a moody teenager listening to them.

What can I say? Despite all my rage I'm still just a rat in a cage. :oldlol:

[Jackass18]

I know I'm gonna sound like a dick, but that is not my intent, I'm legitimately surprised by this...


People over 16 listen to them? I can't imagine anyone other than a moody teenager listening to them.

CSB

[Randy]

I feel like you're missing a word in there..

Goddamnit :facepalm

[Clippersfan86]

Maybe it's just me but Pumpkins gets massive points over Nirvana for versatility. Nirvana's music was completely depressing, negative or about drugs. I can't find a single upbeat or positive Nirvana song. Here are two examples of great Smashing Pumpkins songs you may not know that aren't like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrXVoIOSoN8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKYY8DxVZHE&ob=av2e

Then you can't forget "Today".

Then you throw in INCREDIBLY deep songs like "Disarm" and "1979". I'm sorry but lyrically Nirvana isn't even in the same realm IMO. Nirvana wrote a bunch of drug songs and songs about misery and don't deserve the kind of respect they get.

As for Jimmy Chamberlain not being one of the greatest drummers of all time... I strongly disagree. One thing I will concede is Corgan isn't a top 10 guitarist. I personally rank him top 10 but most don't.

[Cowboy Thunder]

Good band

[blablabla]

Maybe it's just me but Pumpkins gets massive points over Nirvana for versatility. Nirvana's music was completely depressing, negative or about drugs. I can't find a single upbeat or positive Nirvana song. Here are two examples of great Smashing Pumpkins songs you may not know that aren't like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrXVoIOSoN8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKYY8DxVZHE&ob=av2e

Then you can't forget "Today".

Then you throw in INCREDIBLY deep songs like "Disarm" and "1979". I'm sorry but lyrically Nirvana isn't even in the same realm IMO. Nirvana wrote a bunch of drug songs and songs about misery and don't deserve the kind of respect they get.

As for Jimmy Chamberlain not being one of the greatest drummers of all time... I strongly disagree. One thing I will concede is Corgan isn't a top 10 guitarist. I personally rank him top 10 but most don't.
an upbeat popsong and nirvana would really fit

[QuebecBaller]

One of favorite band ever

The problem with Smashing, is they were able to make one over-the-top album (mellon collie and the infinite sadness) and after that the other albums were not as good as expected (they set the bar too high with Mellon Collie)

In 1996, Chamberlin had drugs problems and was fired, D'arcy left in 1999, the band break-up in 2000, and the reunion wasn't a true reunion... just the return of Billy Corgan and the name Smashing Pumpkins

If the band didn't have internal problems they'd probably been able to wrote more great albums... but it didnt happened

P.S: I never liked Nirvana, but you can't compare the two bands... Nirvana created a new sound, destroyed a huge part of heavy metal in the same time and the leader killed himself (accept it or not, but death always help a band legacy). Nirvana is a part of the history of music, Smashing Pumpkins is a huge part of the 90's

[Nick Young]

Maybe it's just me but Pumpkins gets massive points over Nirvana for versatility. Nirvana's music was completely depressing, negative or about drugs. I can't find a single upbeat or positive Nirvana song. Here are two examples of great Smashing Pumpkins songs you may not know that aren't like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrXVoIOSoN8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKYY8DxVZHE&ob=av2e

Then you can't forget "Today".

Then you throw in INCREDIBLY deep songs like "Disarm" and "1979". I'm sorry but lyrically Nirvana isn't even in the same realm IMO. Nirvana wrote a bunch of drug songs and songs about misery and don't deserve the kind of respect they get.

As for Jimmy Chamberlain not being one of the greatest drummers of all time... I strongly disagree. One thing I will concede is Corgan isn't a top 10 guitarist. I personally rank him top 10 but most don't.
Today isn't a happy song idiot, look at the lyrics:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :hammerhead: :facepalm

[Nick Young]

One of favorite band ever

The problem with Smashing, is they were able to make one over-the-top album (mellon collie and the infinite sadness) and after that the other albums were not as good as expected (they set the bar too high with Mellon Collie)

In 1996, Chamberlin had drugs problems and was fired, D'arcy left in 1999, the band break-up in 2000, and the reunion wasn't a true reunion... just the return of Billy Corgan and the name Smashing Pumpkins

If the band didn't have internal problems they'd probably been able to wrote more great albums... but it didnt happened

P.S: I never liked Nirvana, but you can't compare the two bands... Nirvana created a new sound, destroyed a huge part of heavy metal in the same time and the leader killed himself (accept it or not, but death always help a band legacy). Nirvana is a part of the history of music, Smashing Pumpkins is a huge part of the 90's
Nirvana didn't create a new sound, they just popularized the Pixies sound. They had a better and more marketable image and a charismatic frontman compared to the Pixies who just wore normal clothes and looked normal.

[Abd El-Krim]

I've never been a Pumpkins fan. They have that 90s meh sound that so many bands during the period had. I just listened to three of the songs linked in this thread and feel like I watched an episode of the real world when that one dude had aids. Just saying, no staying power there.

[Abd El-Krim]

Yes, Cobain's suicide did impact their legacy. Nevermind was a groundbreaking record but even at the time they weren't even the biggest band in the world. Metallica and Pearl Jam were just as big, maybe even bigger. And you can even say Pearl Jam was more popular with record-breaking sales they were doing between 1992-94. Ten actually outsold Nevermind, and Vs. even nearly reached 1 million sales in its first week.

Everybody changed in April, 1994 though when Cobain died and Nirvana's legacy grew bigger, while everybody else almost became an afterthought.


I think they would become more like Guns N Roses if Cobain lived. A couple of albums and a break-up after getting sick of each other.

You honestly think if Vedder or Hetfield had died around that time they'd be immortalized like that? No f'n way. They fronted popular bands but weren't enigmatic in the way that Cobain was. Cobain's death may have cemented his legacy as rock and roll royalty but even had he lived there's just no way he would have gone out like Axl ****ing Rose. I think a Syd Barrett/Peter Green path would have ensued, which is much more respectable than ukulele albums and hair pieces.

[RidonKs]

Bolded is untrue. And Smashing Pumpkins is in my top 3 favorite bands of all time ever list.

Nirvana and Pumpkins are different. Also Nirvana is immortalized today because they put out like 3 perfect albums then the lead singer martyrized himself. So basically they went out at the peak of their game before they could put out a clunker album which is why they are so legendary now.

If pumpkins went out after melon collie and the infinite sadness with Billy Corgan committing Hari Kari they would be just as big today as Nirvana.

Pumpkins are great, I love Machina, Machina II, Ava Adore, even Zeitgeist, but they have alot of bad songs and I get why critics hate those albums.

Gish, Melon colie, Siamese Dream are just as good as any nirvana album, only difference is nirvana died and pumpkins petered out.

If Kurt Cobaine didnt kill himself they'd probably be seen as Pearl Jam is today, dedicated cult following, recognition from the critics but not the massive giant band they were considered in their heyday.
this prrrrrdry much


gish is on my short list of best debut records i've ever heard. top to bottom, terrific album with just the right amount of variation and still an underlying consistency.

[Lebron23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aeETEoNfOg

[RoTM]

how can anybody like zeitgeist that album is horrible

Doomsday clock, bleeding the orchid, tarantula, starz, bring the light, I love these songs. Zeitgeist can't even be horrible when there's nothing new in its genre to even compare it to.

[QUIZZLE]

They are UNDERRATED, no doubt.

Billy Corgan top 10 rocker of all-time......... nay.

Bullet With Butterfly Wings is such a good jam. I'd recommend anyone that song when they're pissed off.

[dkmwise]

Nirvana goes past music, they define a generation. When you think 90's you think grunge rock and when you think grunge you think Nirvana.

Also, for people who were growing up during the height of these rock bands Nirvana had way more credibility. Nirvana was 'cool' to a wide variety of people and the band was respected by most.
Now the Smashing Pumpkins while they have good music and were popular in their day too, they were also kind of weak. At the time if you were rocking a SP tee that was kinda lame. The Pumpkins were more on the younger preppy/nerdy side of the rock scale.

[QUIZZLE]

When I think of NIRVANA, I think of OVERRATED. I'm completely aware of how 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' revolutionized rock. It did. It was a great, unique song. Like nothing else we've ever heard.

But that about does it for me. A few songs here and there I can take but that's about it. I think the overall simplicity of their songs is what does it. It's too boring for me. Cobain's voice just makes me wanna kill someone after I hear it too often.

Rolling Stones had Cobain in like their top 15 greatest guitarists of all-time... give me a break. :roll:

[JohnnySic]

If you think Nirvana is overrated, then that just means that you really weren't around for it. I was 17 in 1991/92 and have a frame of reference. To this day I have never seen anything in pop culture that compares to the grunge revolution that Nirvana triggered. The rock and hair metal bands of the 80's/early 90's were killed practically overnight. Its wasn't a slow, protracted death like hip hop is currently experiencing, it was a bullet to the head.

Listening to the music today doesn't give you the full effect of those times. I understand if a teenager or twenty-something listening to Nirvana today thinks "eh, what's the big deal?" There are some things that you just need to "be there" for.

Imagine if some new band today playing a new kind of music released a single that started getting massive airplay despite not being of the typical pop styles prevelant today (basically hip hop and bubble gum pop). Now imagine if that band and its music catches fire and kicks open the door for similar bands and they start selling millions of cd's to the point that a new word (example: grunge) has to be coined to describe their sound, and that they even bring about a signature wardrobe look. And at the same time, all the pop and hip hop performers go from selling millions of cd's to selling nothing practically overnight and become the butt of jokes. If you can imagine all that, then you can possibly understand the impact that Nirvana had back in '91/92.

Also consider this: everything before "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is considerd "classic rock"" and everything since is considered part of the modern era. Truly one of the greatest watershed moments in the history of rock.

[DeuceWallaces]

Sic is wrong on many points. And if Pearl Jam, Metallica, Soundgarden, or any of those big bands would have blown their brains out their respective bands would be put in the same light.

Even then, most people are exaggerating their current influence because you grew up during that time. Most people don't give a shit about Nirvana these days. They have average airplay and catalog sales.

[JohnnySic]

Sic is wrong on many points. And if Pearl Jam, Metallica, Soundgarden, or any of those big bands would have blown their brains out their respective bands would be put in the same light.
Which points exactly?

Eddie Vedder himself once said that he doubted anyone outside of Seattle would have heard of Pearl Jam had it not been for Nirvana.

[VishaltotheG]

Tooday is da gwwweatest!!!! DAEEE!!!

[linZoMourning]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[RaininTwos]

Just heard about them last week. Not impressed at all.

[CeltsGarlic]

I agree that SP is underrated.

Comparing SP to Nirvana is kinda hard, but truth be told, while Nirvana was great their lasting power has more to due with the fact that they were breaking ground and changing our thoughts about music and of course a tragic death.

SP>Nirvana

OMG you fakin asshole. Future negs will hunt you forever. How the **** could you underrate Nirvana that bad? Damn stupid.

[linZoMourning]

nirvana is nothing but white trash depressing music. cobain moans into a mic in different tones and people think its music

[CeltsGarlic]

If you think Nirvana is overrated, then that just means that you really weren't around for it. I was 17 in 1991/92 and have a frame of reference. To this day I have never seen anything in pop culture that compares to the grunge revolution that Nirvana triggered. The rock and hair metal bands of the 80's/early 90's were killed practically overnight. Its wasn't a slow, protracted death like hip hop is currently experiencing, it was a bullet to the head.

Listening to the music today doesn't give you the full effect of those times. I understand if a teenager or twenty-something listening to Nirvana today thinks "eh, what's the big deal?" There are some things that you just need to "be there" for.

Imagine if some new band today playing a new kind of music released a single that started getting massive airplay despite not being of the typical pop styles prevelant today (basically hip hop and bubble gum pop). Now imagine if that band and its music catches fire and kicks open the door for similar bands and they start selling millions of cd's to the point that a new word (example: grunge) has to be coined to describe their sound, and that they even bring about a signature wardrobe look. And at the same time, all the pop and hip hop performers go from selling millions of cd's to selling nothing practically overnight and become the butt of jokes. If you can imagine all that, then you can possibly understand the impact that Nirvana had back in '91/92.

Also consider this: everything before "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is considerd "classic rock"" and everything since is considered part of the modern era. Truly one of the greatest watershed moments in the history of rock.

Greatest post ever. :bowdown: :bowdown:
:applause: :applause:

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't understand why bands such as Nirvana are still immortalized while even better bands like the Pumpkins are forgotten.


There's your first mistake....

[CeltsGarlic]

nirvana is nothing but white trash depressing music. cobain moans into a mic in different tones and people think its music

What are you talking about? They have great fun songs too. Lithium for example, lyrics are sad as bobcats but its still fun to listen to it.