LeBron + Wade Don't Like Or Respect Kobe

[Soundwave]

Anyone else get this sense? Yeah they point to being buddy-buddy from the Olympics, but you can see even at the last two All-Star games and anytime the Heat play the Lakers ... they don't like Bryant and both feel they are better than him.

Not necessarily a bad thing as the modern NBA is way too friggin' nice.

[Heavincent]

Probably mad that they're not nearly as successful as Kobe.

[Phong]

Of course they don't like him. Kobe was standing in the way of their own legacy. As Kobe was racking up championship rings, they both kept failing. Why do you think they decided to team up? Better to have a joined legacy than no legacy at all.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Of course they don't like him. Kobe was standing in the way of their own legacy. As Kobe was racking up championship rings, they both kept failing. Why do you think they decided to team up? Better to have a joined legacy than no legacy at all.
/thread

however i can't imagine them not respecting kobe. not liking? sure...

[K.Koscik]

I kind of get that feeling too.

Though Wade did compliment Kobe the other day when he was asked "Who would you take (besides yourself) shooting the last shot of the game" and told the reporter "Kobe"

It's hard to really know for sure. Maybe they dislike Kobe and butter him up in the media to be politically correct but then plays like in the all-star game they show true colors.

Or, they respect Kobe thus talking him up in the media and are just fiercely competitive and recognize Kobe as a huge rival and that just kind of shows in the chippy way they play the Lakers.

I'll go with the latter. And I think kobe laughs either way

[heyhey]

it's the oedipal complex, Lebron and Wade both spent their adolescent years watching Kobe tearing up the league. So Kobe's their metaphorical father and they get to the league wanting to tear him down. But they realize they can't so they band together.

For Lebron, the hatred is even deeper because his real father left him. So that displaced anger is transferred onto Kobe.

[Soundwave]

I meant in the sense that they don't seem to "respect" Kobe in that they don't give his game much respect on the court. They don't treat him like he's anything special, they go at him constantly.

No one would bloody MJ's face in an All-Star game, not even Ewing would take a run at MJ like that in an All-Star event, but LeBron and Wade look at Kobe like he ain't "sh-t".

I kinda like it, I think basketball needs more of that.

[bwink23]

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[PJR]

Kinda hard for Lebron to respect someone he dominates nearly everytime he plays.

[cavsfanatic]

Watch videos of Lebron on YouTube talking about Kobe then delete this thread

[RRR3]

LeBron likes Kobe. Stop making shit up. Just because Kobe fans and LeBron fans hate each other doesn't mean LeBron and Kobe do in real life.
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2011/11/e867d00cdebd568de58f2ad3d8ee6927.jpg

[Lamar Odumbb]

I think Lebron likes Kobe. Wade is a different story. He can't even hide his hatred for Kobe in interviews. His face scowls and he has this bitter look when people ask him about Kobe. Plus he looks down when he compliments Kobe which means he is lying about whatever he says due to no eye contact which is indicative of a person who is lying.

[d21221hk]

Because they are both Jordan stans obviously.

[Doranku]

Wade and Kobe definitely don't like each other. I don't think there's much animosity between LeBron and Kobe, though.

[d21221hk]

LeBron likes Kobe. Stop making shit up. Just because Kobe fans and LeBron fans hate each other doesn't mean LeBron and Kobe do in real life.
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2011/11/e867d00cdebd568de58f2ad3d8ee6927.jpg
damn i'd give up half of my money for that too :applause:

[WeGetRing2012]

I think they both are jealous of Kobe. And I don't think Kobe respects them either you see him openly praise guys like Rose & Durant but never even acknowledges Wade or Lebron unless he is asked.

[Extempo]

Kobe certainly doesn't respect them. He elbows Wade all the time, he was showing up Lebron after he turned over the ball at the end...he looked disgusted. He seems to be a fan of Rose and CP3 though.

Wade has always been a punk...he mocked Dirk's flu in the finals and didn't even apologize. He did apologize to Kobe though, multiple times today, like a little b*tch :oldlol: I bet Kobe didn't even read his message. I don't think any players around the league respect Wade or Lebron...you hear guys taking shots at them all the time.

[RRR3]

I think they both are jealous of Kobe. And I don't think Kobe respects them either you see him openly praise guys like Rose & Durant but never even acknowledges Wade or Lebron unless he is asked.
Kobe and LeBron are friends and respect each other stop trying to stir up shit:facepalm

[Heavincent]

In all seriousness, Lebron and Kobe seem okay with each other, but Wade seems bitter to me. After all, he's been overshadowed by Kobe for most of his career. Constantly being in second place can get to you.

But who knows, I'm just speculating.

[FindingTim]

Normally I mock threads like these, but I actually have this gut feeling D-Wade doesn't like Kobe.
And frankly, I wouldn't either if I were him. As an individual player (primes), Kobe was never significantly better than Wade, yet Kobe gets/got 5x the hype, 5x the attention, 5x the glory. It's only natural for Wade to be bitter.

Not to mention, Kobe is a bit of a douche narcissist, and Wade is the kind of guy you'd want to kick it with. That only adds fuel to the fire.

[WeGetRing2012]

Kobe and LeBron are friends and respect each other stop trying to stir up shit:facepalm

When Lebron bitched out & went to the Heat he criticized Kobe's game 7 openly to the media like he was jealous Kobe was winning. I feel like when Lebron was younger maybe he did respect Kobe more but has Kobe kept winning while he kept coming up short he grew jealous. And they are not friends Im pretty sure they don't even communicate outside of events or games.

[RRR3]

Yeah, Wade legitimately seems to have a problem with Kobe. LeBron is cool with him though.

[heyhey]

Normally I mock threads like these, but I actually have this gut feeling D-Wade doesn't like Kobe. And frankly, I wouldn't either if I were him. As an individual player (primes), Kobe was never significantly better than Wade, yet Kobe gets/got 5x the hype, 5x the attention, 5x the glory. It's only natural for Wade to be bitter.

u forgot the most important thing 5x the championships, Kobe didn't "get" anything. He earned his place in history.

[FindingTim]

u forgot the most important thing 5x the championships, Kobe didn't "get" anything. He earned his place in history.

let's agree to disagree before this thread turns into something it was never meant to become.

ehh, who am I kidding? I can't resist:
so much of basketball is situational. personally, I think if you substitute Wade for Kobe on those Laker teams, they'd win just as many, if not more titles.
But that's just my silly unpopular opinion.

[TheNaturalWR]

In all seriousness, Lebron and Kobe seem okay with each other, but Wade seems bitter to me. After all, he's been overshadowed by Kobe for most of his career. Constantly being in second place can get to you.

But who knows, I'm just speculating.

It should especially when you're clearly better than the person but not getting the hype you deserve. Most underrated superstar of all time. :facepalm

[Extempo]

Normally I mock threads like these, but I actually have this gut feeling D-Wade doesn't like Kobe.
And frankly, I wouldn't either if I were him. As an individual player (primes), Kobe was never significantly better than Wade, yet Kobe gets/got 5x the hype, 5x the attention, 5x the glory. It's only natural for Wade to be bitter.

Not to mention, Kobe is a bit of a douche narcissist, and Wade is the kind of guy you'd want to kick it with. That only adds fuel to the fire.
One of the most retarded posts in ISH history. It's so embarrassing, I don't even know what to say. I understand we shouldn't take these blind Kobe-hating trolls seriously but all I have to say is...Kobe is already a top 5 scoring leader of all-time...Wade is not even in the top 100. He has 1 ring thanks to generous help from the refs. He doesn't have range, his game relies on athleticism (and refs). He doesn't have anything close to the amazing individual performances Kobe had in his prime...multiple 40+ and 50+ games in a row, 81 points, 62 in 3 quarters, most game-winners, etc etc etc. MJ himself said Kobe is the only one worth comparison to him. Wade is not even in the same atmosphere.

[WeGetRing2012]

I don't know if you guys remember but when USC played Oregon Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Melo, & CP3 were at the game. Everyone but Kobe was hanging out together. I think Kobe is really cool with Melo but everyone else he doesn't really care about. One of the reasons I didn't really want CP3 on the Lakers. One of Lebron's BFFs playing with a person he is jealous of.

http://balljunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/50170_NpAdvSinglePhoto.jpg

[G-Funk]

Maybe one day they can sit on the same lunch table with Kobe

[ballashotcalla]

I used to like Wade.

When he was with Shaq during their championship, he seemed like a humble person. Seemed down to earth.

Now, his ego is out of control. He just looks jealous of anyone with a sportscenter spot.

[Soundwave]

Maybe I remembering it wrong but it seemed like LeBron and Kobe sorta got into a bit at last year's All-Star game too and the East tried to push back at the end of the game.

But I can't really complain, because in how many sports do people say the All-Star is not competitive ... well you want some animosity/competition ... there ya go.

[ballashotcalla]

I don't know if you guys remember but when USC played Oregon Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Melo, & CP3 were at the game. Everyone but Kobe was hanging out together. I think Kobe is really cool with Melo but everyone else he doesn't really care about. One of the reasons I didn't really want CP3 on the Lakers. One of Lebron's BFFs playing with a person he is jealous of.

http://balljunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/50170_NpAdvSinglePhoto.jpg

That doesn't mean anything.

Kobe's also the old guy of the group. Who's still around during the 95-97 draft class producing like he is?

[SwooshReturns]

LeBron likes Kobe. Stop making shit up. Just because Kobe fans and LeBron fans hate each other doesn't mean LeBron and Kobe do in real life.
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2011/11/e867d00cdebd568de58f2ad3d8ee6927.jpg
Yea, because they took a picture together is proof they like each other.

I think there is a substantial enough resentment shared between Kobe and LeBron / Wade

As well as there should be. Both Kobe, LeBron, and Wade have all taken subliminal shots at each other through media.

I'm sure on certain levels they respect him, but they certainly aren't buddies.

Nor should they be ... they both stand in the way of each other's legacies. They are forced to be nice due to their similar Nike affiliation, but I wouldn't have it any other way than both be willing to take each other DOWN when it comes to basketball.

Only a pussay would want everyone to be friends. Where is the entertainment in that? They both stand in each other's way for what they want ... warriors need to duke it out.

http://balljunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/50170_NpAdvSinglePhoto.jpg

Look at these homos dressing similar ... jesus.

Now, this generation of players there is genuine friendships. They all like each other.

[WeGetRing2012]

Yea, because they took a picture together is proof they like each other.

I think there is a substantial enough resentment shared between Kobe and LeBron / Wade

As well as there should be. Both Kobe, LeBron, and Wade have all taken subliminal shots at each other through media.

I'm sure on certain levels they respect him, but they certainly aren't buddies.

Nor should they be ... they both stand in the way of each other's legacies. They are forced to be nice due to their similar Nike affiliation, but I wouldn't have it any other way than both be willing to take each other DOWN when it comes to basketball.

Only a pussay would want everyone to be friends. Where is the entertainment in that? They both stand in each other's way for what they want ... warriors need to duke it out.

http://balljunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/50170_NpAdvSinglePhoto.jpg

Look at these homos dressing similar ... jesus.

Now, this generation of players there is genuine friendships. They all like each other.

Exactly looking like a damn boy band. CP3 on the Lakers would have been annoying.

[WeGetRing2012]

That doesn't mean anything.

Kobe's also the old guy of the group. Who's still around during the 95-97 draft class producing like he is?

What does being older have to do with hanging out at a game? :confusedshrug:

[Bandito]

I don't know if you guys remember but when USC played Oregon Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Melo, & CP3 were at the game. Everyone but Kobe was hanging out together. I think Kobe is really cool with Melo but everyone else he doesn't really care about. One of the reasons I didn't really want CP3 on the Lakers. One of Lebron's BFFs playing with a person he is jealous of.

http://balljunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/50170_NpAdvSinglePhoto.jpg
uh!? Is lebron and wade wearing the same clothes? Awwwkward....

[G-Funk]

Wade is jelly of Kobe...

[Deuce Bigalow]

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[ballashotcalla]

What does being older have to do with hanging out at a game? :confusedshrug:

That picture not including Kobe means absolutely anything.

I'm talking about being friends off the court.

[ballashotcalla]

uh!? Is lebron and wade wearing the same clothes? Awwwkward....

They wore the same nerd glasses at all star weekend.

The but buddies even go shopping together.

[FindingTim]

One of the most retarded posts in ISH history. It's so embarrassing, I don't even know what to say. I understand we shouldn't take these blind Kobe-hating trolls seriously but all I have to say is...Kobe is already a top 5 scoring leader of all-time...Wade is not even in the top 100. He has 1 ring thanks to generous help from the refs. He doesn't have range, his game relies on athleticism (and refs). He doesn't have anything close to the amazing individual performances Kobe had in his prime...multiple 40+ and 50+ games in a row, 81 points, 62 in 3 quarters, most game-winners, etc etc etc. MJ himself said Kobe is the only one worth comparison to him. Wade is not even in the same atmosphere.

wow, your first sentence puts me in some very elite company.

I understand that in terms of accolades and stats, Kobe CRUSHES Wade.
But there is another aspect to basketball called "watching the game".

I've watched each of them throughout their career. Kobe has some of the best footwork/skills of anyone I've ever seen, but as an overall player, I never felt that he stood head and shoulders above Wade. Prime Dwyane Wade- even 2011 Finals Wade-- was an absolute assassin. And unlike Kobe, I rarely watched him and thought, "wow, that was a terrible basketball decision. what a terrible teammate and selfish chucker."

In my eyes, the Lakers won championships in spite of Kobe, whereas the Heat success was only possible because of Dwyane Wade.

With the exception of Kobe's MVP season (the anomaly year when he suddenly had high basketball IQ) half his possessions left me scratching my head. Maybe I am retarded, like you said, but I've never felt that Kobe greatly surpassed Wade as a player. Kobe's legacy trumps Wade's, but all excess crap removed, the difference isn't as substantial as most posters here, and the media, will lead you to think.

p.s. I found it funny that you said, "...I don't even know what to say" then proceeded to write a bulky paragraph. but that's irrelevant.

p.s.s. I know MJ is the GOAT, but his time with Charlotte has proven he is not the best gauge of talent.

[SwooshReturns]

I too think the argument between Wade and Kobe is a lot closer than Lakers fans would like to admit. It's funny because both are basically clones of different versions of the Jordan mantle. And both are like two different aspects to Jordan, himself. I actually think Wade has CLEARLY been the better playoff / Finals performer in comparison to Kobe.

Both of their legacies at the end of the day will be fighting for the #2 SG spot all-time. And Kobe fans may not like hearing this, but even taking resumes into account, Wade won't be that far behind if he starts winning rings w/ LeBron James and Chris Bosh.

Kobe fans should focus less on the Jordan comparison, which they will NEVER reach. And focus and fear more Wade's ascension on the all-time ranks. Wade is rising. Kobe has plateaued.

[Soundwave]

I too think the argument between Wade and Kobe is a lot closer than Lakers fans would like to admit. It's funny because both are basically clones of different versions of the Jordan mantle. And both are like two different aspects to Jordan, himself. I actually think Wade has CLEARLY been the better playoff / Finals performer in comparison to Kobe.

Both of their legacies at the end of the day will be fighting for the #2 SG spot all-time. And Kobe fans may not like hearing this, but even taking resumes into account, Wade won't be that far behind if he starts winning rings w/ LeBron James and Chris Bosh.

Kobe fans should focus less on the Jordan comparison, which they will NEVER reach. And focus and fear more Wade's ascension on the all-time ranks. Wade is rising. Kobe has plateaued.

It's kinda like when they killed Superman and then brought back 4 different "Superman" clones ... Kobe is one version of Jordan, Wade is another, LeBron is another, Melo is another :oldlol:, but none of them are quite as good.

[EnoughSaid]

Off the court, I think they are all great friends. On the court, it's wayyy different and it should stay that way.

[SwooshReturns]

It's kinda like when they killed Superman and then brought back 4 different "Superman" clones ... Kobe is one version of Jordan, Wade is another, LeBron is another, Melo is another :oldlol:, but none of them are quite as good.
LOL I loved that storyline as a kid ... but ummm, yes that actually is a VERY apt comparison.

[War Machine]

Unless LBJ goes down with some fluke career-ending injury, safe to say when all is said and done he'll rank higher than Kobe on the all-time list. LBJ is just that special of a player. Kobe is also special, of course, just not on the same plateau as LeBron.

Wade, perhaps he'll finish his career a Top 50 player of all-time. More than likely he will, especially if him and the Heat rack up some titles. On a side note taking Kobe out of the picture here for a moment, the people who say Wade > LBJ really makes me SMH. Stop, just stop it already.

Anyone and everyone "respects" Kobe Bryant. There's no getting around that. He's a class act, and easily one of the greatest of all time.

[SwooshReturns]

It's kinda like when they killed Superman and then brought back 4 different "Superman" clones ... Kobe is one version of Jordan, Wade is another, LeBron is another, Melo is another
To piggy back that idea of the Superman clones who tried to imitate but never duplicate and ultimately crumble under the pressures of being heir to the mantle.

LeBron - Cyborg Superman (terminator + Superman)
Kobe - Eradicator (evil version of Superman)
Wade - Superboy

Steel was one of the 4 Superman clones, but he ultimately became his own character ... and Shaq played him in a movie, so he gets to be Steel. His look was based of Shaq in the comic anyways.

God, DC > Marvel ... Love it.

[guy]

Normally I mock threads like these, but I actually have this gut feeling D-Wade doesn't like Kobe.
And frankly, I wouldn't either if I were him. As an individual player (primes), Kobe was never significantly better than Wade, yet Kobe gets/got 5x the hype, 5x the attention, 5x the glory. It's only natural for Wade to be bitter.

Not to mention, Kobe is a bit of a douche narcissist, and Wade is the kind of guy you'd want to kick it with. That only adds fuel to the fire.

You're right, but he should probably have more reason to be bitter at Lebron then. At least Kobe had 7 years on Wade before he even came into the league. Him and Lebron came in the exact same time, neither one has really been that much better then the other, and Wade has accomplished what every great player wants to accomplish which is lead a team to a ring while Lebron has not. But Lebron is 1000x more hyped and talked about.

[Chrono90]

I think it's mainly a on court issue. Off the court, i don't think they hate each other to death. But it's understandable. They're all fighting to see who's better and Kobe's been in the way of being the top dog in the league.

I do agree that Wade has more of a rivalry going with Kobe. I think it's because they're both point guards and Kobe showed up on Wade in many occasions.

[RRR3]

To piggy back that idea of the Superman clones who tried to imitate but never duplicate and ultimately crumble under the pressures of being heir to the mantle.

LeBron - Cyborg Superman (terminator + Superman)
Kobe - Eradicator (evil version of Superman)
Wade - Superboy

Steel was one of the 4 Superman clones, but he ultimately became his own character ... and Shaq played him in a movie, so he gets to be Steel. His look was based of Shaq in the comic anyways.

God, DC > Marvel ... Love it.
Who's Melo? Wonder woman? :oldlol:

[SwooshReturns]

Who's Melo? Wonder woman? :oldlol:
Not even a hero ... he's a bum. He smiles so much, we'll call him the Joker.

[TheBigVeto]

Anyone else get this sense? Yeah they point to being buddy-buddy from the Olympics, but you can see even at the last two All-Star games and anytime the Heat play the Lakers ... they don't like Bryant and both feel they are better than him.
.

Why this is a bad thing?

[Chrono90]

Who's Melo? Wonder woman? :oldlol:

After these years, i feel like Melo isn't in the same status as Kobe Lebron n Wade. He can score but he's not as good as them.

[Soundwave]

I can't see Magic breaking Bird's nose in an All-Star game though even if they had the whole "competitors on the court/friends off the court" thing going on.

LeBron used to seem to be in awe of Kobe during his Cleveland days, but that seems to have dried up awfully quick in Miami (Wade's influence?).

[Eric Cartman]

Mutual Respect: Kobe and Lebron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N-E3HjnZ7U

They like each other and respect each other. On the other hand, i think Wade is jealous that Kobe gets all the attention, the accolades while he is great in his own right. Wade comes off as a spoiled douche in my book.

[eliteballer]

Dont get that sense from lebron. I get the sense he might not be a huge fan, but he respects him.

Wade on the other hand has always seemed jealous. From playing with Shaq after Kobe to knowing he'll never be as revered as Kobe.

[Soundwave]

Mutual Respect: Kobe and Lebron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N-E3HjnZ7U

They like each other and respect each other. On the other hand, i think Wade is jealous that Kobe gets all the attention, the accolades while he is great in his own right. Wade comes off as a spoiled douche in my book.

Cleveland days. I think it's changed now in Miami.

I noticed LeBron and Wade seemed pissed off at last year's All-Star game that Kobe seemed to be getting to many easy baskets. They led that charge to get the East back into the game.

When the Heat play the Lakers too, you can sorta sense it. They don't want to just beat the Lakers, they want to show up Kobe.

[MostHated305]

Unless LBJ goes down with some fluke career-ending injury, safe to say when all is said and done he'll rank higher than Kobe on the all-time list. LBJ is just that special of a player. Kobe is also special, of course, just not on the same plateau as LeBron.

Wade, perhaps he'll finish his career a Top 50 player of all-time. More than likely he will, especially if him and the Heat rack up some titles. On a side note taking Kobe out of the picture here for a moment, the people who say Wade > LBJ really makes me SMH. Stop, just stop it already.

Anyone and everyone "respects" Kobe Bryant. There's no getting around that. He's a class act, and easily one of the greatest of all time.

I agree with everything you said EXCEPT, Wade will go down as at least top 25 all time. The greatest shot-blocking guard of all time! and top 5 SG overall!

[SwooshReturns]

and top 5 SG overall!
He's already top five, above Drexler and right there w/ West. Dude wins a few more rings w/ LeBron and co. And he's right there w/ Mamba.

[ThatsGame]

Mutual Respect: Kobe and Lebron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N-E3HjnZ7U

They like each other and respect each other. On the other hand, i think Wade is jealous that Kobe gets all the attention, the accolades while he is great in his own right. Wade comes off as a spoiled douche in my book.

Um, the spoiled douche is Mr. Kobe Bryant, who had championship players around him in all his runs that basically carried his ass. Wade got his by going into beast mode by himself and to this day has the best finals performance EVER. Yet noone really cares.

[SwooshReturns]

Um, the spoiled douche is Mr. Kobe Bryant, who had championship players around him in all his runs that basically carried his ass.
You can't be this dumb. You have to have "championship caliber players" to be on a championship team.


Wade got his by going into beast mode by himself
Wade didn't have "championship players around him"?

Yes, Wade was alpha and the best player ... but did my eyes fool me when I saw

Shaq
Haslem
Walker
Posey
Payton
J. Will

Out there on the floor with him? No they all weren't in their primes, or all stars, but even older versions of those players still formed a fantastic squad around Wade.


and to this day has the best finals performance EVER.
LOL ... No. Better than anything Kobe's done, sure.

But Jordan and Shaq have both had multiple better runs in the playoffs and Finals, and so have a few others if I got to thinking about it.

[RRR3]

Not even a hero ... he's a bum. He smiles so much, we'll call him the Joker.
Poor Melo :(

[Bajanmale]

I think Lebron likes Kobe. Wade is a different story. He can't even hide his hatred for Kobe in interviews. His face scowls and he has this bitter look when people ask him about Kobe. Plus he looks down when he compliments Kobe which means he is lying about whatever he says due to no eye contact which is indicative of a person who is lying.

If he does well amen, the NBA is to fake with all this cutesy stuff, everybody is a friends sh*t. When Kobe played the Suns and beat them, Kobe said oh I really hate that team. Nash said oh Kobe is the best in the world. Really like the whole world doesn't know that? I felt like Nash was trying too hard to be nice. Nash is one of my favourite players but I wish he was tougher. If he diss your team he disses you, take it personal.

[SwooshReturns]

Poor Melo :(
Brought it on himself, never put it all together.

[KingMichael23]

"Kobe is my idol" - LeBron.

[Fawker]

good, then they should have the oldschool mentality.

the attention span and lack of history is absurd amongst the young and the old anyway. kobe's span should tell you he is not from these guys' era. this is fine wine vs. sipping 40 ounces. he doesn't give a **** what they do, how they win and how many, if one scores 82, wins 7 rings or 8 or 9. kobe will leave the league soon enough and both of those guys will not see another player with the same make up who was also a template to their competitiveness. both of those dudes hung up kobe posters in their rooms then they shit on a niiga.

[War Machine]

The short time I've been posting here (been reading for a couple years now) I can't get over how much the Wade groupie-ism is in full effect. You have posters who say Wade > LBJ, Wade > Kobe and Wade > Durant.

:oldlol:

Wow.

[SwooshReturns]

Wade is right there w/ Kobe and LeBron in terms of ability, impact, and has proven to be a more consistent playoff performer. What's your issue, Rhodes?

[War Machine]

Wade is right there w/ Kobe and LeBron in terms of ability, impact, and has proven to be a more consistent playoff performer. What's your issue, Rhodes?

Durant is going to complete his career a Top 10 all-time NBA player. Kobe will be Top 5 all time. LeBron James will be Top 3. Wade, well, he'll be Top 25. These are the facts folks, deal with them.

[SwooshReturns]

Durant is going to complete his career a Top 10 all-time NBA player. Kobe will be Top 5 all time. LeBron James will be Top 3. Wade, well, he'll be Top 25. These are the facts folks, deal with them.
You should change your user name to Miss Cleo ... this kid is an idiot.

:oldlol:

[War Machine]

You should change your user name to Miss Cleo ... this kid is an idiot.

:oldlol:

Alright then... point out what is false about my statement?

:confusedshrug:

Go ahead genius, you claim I'm an idiot, then let's see you back up your claim, and you debunk my claim. Go ahead, we're waiting.

[Fawker]

I bet on my Family's namesake Lebron, Wade, Melo, Rose, Durant, do not win 5 rings each. They will be looked over in their eras.MJ and KB will be mentioned 1000 years from now.

[War Machine]

You should change your user name to Miss Cleo ... this kid is an idiot.

:oldlol:

We're all still waiting for you to back up you claims and debunk my statement.

Where you at, chump?

:confusedshrug:

Wait you guys, do you hear that?

*crickets*

[pauk]

What kindof bullshit is this?

They are only competitive when the game is on... thats it... its nothing personal like that...

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

We're all still waiting for you to back up you claims and debunk my statement.

Where you at, chump?

:confusedshrug:

Wait you guys, do you hear that?

*crickets*

Not to speak for the other poster, but you really should learn the difference between fact and opinion.

...Nothing you stated was fact. :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

What kindof bullshit is this?

They are only competitive when the game is on... thats it... its nothing personal like that...


This

[War Machine]

Not to speak for the other poster, but you really should learn the difference between fact and opinion.

...Nothing you stated was fact. :oldlol:

Fact or opinion... he has yet to even attempt to prove me wrong. Perhaps, you, would like to take his place?

:confusedshrug:

[Dwade305]

:lol Looks like Jack3 got a new alt. Dude has been banned from Rgm land here like 1000 X but here he is again propping up Bron, belittling Wade, and d*ckriding Kobe once again.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Fact or opinion... he has yet to even attempt to prove me wrong. Perhaps, you, would like to take his place?

:confusedshrug:

How can I prove your opinion wrong? All-time lists are subjective.

:hammerhead:

[donald_trump]

how can you respect a guy that essentially buys his way into accolades over you based on his name?

can anyone tell me how kobe made 1st all nba team over wade last season?

[ThePointGuard11]

how can you respect a guy that essentially buys his way into accolades over you based on his name?

can anyone tell me how kobe made 1st all nba team over wade last season?

But.. but...but Wade plays with LeBron and Bosh :cry: the all NBA team and All defensive teams have become popularity contests. How Kobe is still 1st team all-defense over guys like Tony Allen & Dwyane Wade is beyond me. At this point in his career, there are a number of better defenders at the 2-guard position.

[War Machine]

How can I prove your opinion wrong? All-time lists are subjective.

:hammerhead:

True, but you can look at my statement and from afar you can come to the conclusion it's right, somewhat right, or just way off.

So which one is it in your opinion? Do you think my statement will be right, somewhat right, or just completely off?

:confusedshrug:

... and please, don't use some lame ass "we don't know yet" bullshit. My question is to assume on this one. Damn, you people need to really step your mental games up.

[andgar923]

Anyone else get this sense? Yeah they point to being buddy-buddy from the Olympics, but you can see even at the last two All-Star games and anytime the Heat play the Lakers ... they don't like Bryant and both feel they are better than him.

Not necessarily a bad thing as the modern NBA is way too friggin' nice.
I think they don't like him personally.

I think most players dislike Kobe as well.

Bron and Wade don't seem to have an issue with other players, but I think Kobe's personality is what keeps him from being liked. I remember for years, Kobe isolated himself from his own team, Magic spent years without talking to Kobe even tho Magic tried to reach out to him many times.

What I don't get is, posters here stating that Kobe's keeping them from becoming champs. This aint MJ we're talking about here, in which he knocked them out of the Finals. And most observers have ranked Bron>>Kobe for a few years now, and if that was the case as well, then Wade shouldn't like Bron since Bron always got top billing >>> Wade.

It's Kobe's personality they dislike plain and simple.

Not his game, his personality
Not his accolades, his personality
Not his hype, his personality

[andgar923]

What kindof bullshit is this?

They are only competitive when the game is on... thats it... its nothing personal like that...

Naw... I get the feeling that they sorta dislike the dude as well.

Maybe not as strongly as some make it seem, but there is some dislike, which is cool. I don't think everybody should be buddy buddy, and I would actually love it if they hated each other, just like they did back then.

Hell... even till this day, some players from the past can't stand others, but there was always some sort of respect.

I wish Oakley had a show, where he said it like it was. I'd pay to watch that shit.

[Lebron23]

I think they don't like him personally.

I think most players dislike Kobe as well.

Bron and Wade don't seem to have an issue with other players, but I think Kobe's personality is what keeps him from being liked. I remember for years, Kobe isolated himself from his own team, Magic spent years without talking to Kobe even tho Magic tried to reach out to him many times.

What I don't get is, posters here stating that Kobe's keeping them from becoming champs. This aint MJ we're talking about here, in which he knocked them out of the Finals. And most observers have ranked Bron>>Kobe for a few years now, and if that was the case as well, then Wade shouldn't like Bron since Bron always got top billing >>> Wade.

It's Kobe's personality they dislike plain and simple.

Not his game, his personality
Not his accolades, his personality
Not his hype, his personality


This

[Ronaldinho]

But.. but...but Wade plays with LeBron and Bosh :cry: the all NBA team and All defensive teams have become popularity contests. How Kobe is still 1st team all-defense over guys like Tony Allen & Dwyane Wade is beyond me. At this point in his career, there are a number of better defenders at the 2-guard position.
How many games you watched Tony Allen play last year?Who the **** watch him?Go **** a banana.

And Wade easy D, :roll:

Kobe old ass is still better than him

[LakersReign]

But.. but...but Wade plays with LeBron and Bosh :cry: the all NBA team and All defensive teams have become popularity contests. How Kobe is still 1st team all-defense over guys like Tony Allen & Dwyane Wade is beyond me. At this point in his career, there are a number of better defenders at the 2-guard position.

Dude please. "A number of better defenders at the 2-guard position" WITHOUT even bothering to name any, translates into "I hate Kobe and I'll say ANYTHING to discredit him". Holla back when you come up with some names.:blah :blah :blah :blah

This outta be good:lol

[DMV2]

In all seriousness, Lebron and Kobe seem okay with each other, but Wade seems bitter to me. After all, he's been overshadowed by Kobe for most of his career. Constantly being in second place can get to you.

But who knows, I'm just speculating.
It's because Wade has a competitive edge unlike LeBron, who just wants to be liked by everybody.

[Nash]

So you guys just took what one guy said and went with it and now Wade FOR SURE hates Kobe? Some people on this forum are nuts.

[D-Wade316]

:lol Looks like Jack3 got a new alt. Dude has been banned from Rgm land here like 1000 X but here he is again propping up Bron, belittling Wade, and d*ckriding Kobe once again.
:lol

[inclinerator]

lebron loves kobe idk what ur talking about

[derb2k2]

if Wade and Bron do dislike Kobe, it's for his personality. But you have to respect Kobe for his basketball game. He's got the rings.

[zizozain]

Wade is right there w/ Kobe and LeBron in terms of ability, impact, and has proven to be a more consistent playoff performer. What's your issue, Rhodes?

he never won a playoff series for 5 tears befoe Lebron joined

[Scholar]

he never won a playoff series for 5 tears befoe Lebron joined

Why would he win a playoff series for 5 tears? I'd play for 5 mill, 5 cars, 5 houses, 5... almost anything else, but tears? Who the hell wants to play for tears???

[Pointguard]

Wade has been open and honest about how Kobe is during Allstar games. He and a couple of others have made fun of hard he goes at the game. And this goes back four years ago since he and Arenas joked about it to the press. I think he respects Kobe tho. I don't think Lebron has ever shown anything but respect to Kobe, but Lebron is respectful to all of his peers.

Kobe's personality doesn't have a natural convivial personality. He seemingly doesn't have a best friend, outside of his ex-wife, and rarely projects a friendly guy personality. So yeah, there are guys who will be distant with him because there isn't much else of a way to be with him. And Kobe seems cool with that. Just the way he is.

DH is a harder figure. He seems fun and friendly but you definitely notice that guys kind of dislike him.

[jstern]

Wade just said two days ago when asked who he would pick to take the last shot of a game, that he would take Kobe Bryant. This was after the all star game too. He broke his nose, but he was just trying to stop Kobe from getting an easy two points out of embarrassment. Sometimes stuff like that happen un premeditated.

Anyway, for some reason I feel that before the internet was as big as now, if a player hated his competitor, people wouldn't be whining about it.

[pegasus]

I think they all respect each other, and deservedly so. But I always get the feeling that Wade is a bit jealous of Kobe, probably because of his accomplishments and popularity.

[The_Yearning]

I think they all respect each other, and deservedly so. But I always get the feeling that Wade is a bit jealous of Kobe, probably because of his accomplishments and popularity.

And his looks. Wade thinks he is a model, but Kobe has the model looks.

Plus, Wade is a little fat for the modeling world. Taking all the HgH isn't a good look.

[PJR]

And his looks. Wade thinks he is a model, but Kobe has the model looks.

^ fa99ot....

[AlphaWolf24]

I think they don't like him personally.

I think most players dislike Kobe as well.

Bron and Wade don't seem to have an issue with other players, but I think Kobe's personality is what keeps him from being liked. I remember for years, Kobe isolated himself from his own team, Magic spent years without talking to Kobe even tho Magic tried to reach out to him many times.

What I don't get is, posters here stating that Kobe's keeping them from becoming champs. This aint MJ we're talking about here, in which he knocked them out of the Finals. And most observers have ranked Bron>>Kobe for a few years now, and if that was the case as well, then Wade shouldn't like Bron since Bron always got top billing >>> Wade.

It's Kobe's personality they dislike plain and simple.

Not his game, his personality
Not his accolades, his personality
Not his hype, his personality


so why is it nearly every star basketball player wants to play with Kobe?...

TMAC , Vince , Dirk , Dwight , Bird , MJ , Melo, Lamar , all wanted to play with Kobe and think he is the best....

Nearly every observer thinks Kobe is and has been better then Lebron....Kobe was voted player of the decade by a huge Margin.

this past year Lebron is viewed as the best player in the NBA ....just wait till June.

and MJ never kept anyone from winning titles.....Magic and Bird won many titles....Bird owned MJ Bull's every year in the postseason...Drexler played many years in Portland and lost to L.A. and DET before Losing again to Chi.

Barkley ruined his team in PHI (who won a Title the year before) before he lost to Chi....John Stockton and Malone played nearly 2 decades....who beat them the other 15 years???..it wasn't MJ...


Jordan won titles in a waterd down league....many observers also thought Dominique was better then MJ too...


your logic is a Fail

[guy]

many observers also thought Dominique was better then MJ too...


your logic is a Fail

LOL no. Who has ever thought that? Since when did "Nique should've won that dunk contest over Jordan" become "Nique was better then Jordan"?

[Andrei89]

damn i'd give up half of my money for that too :applause:

so thats 5 dollars?

[LBJ 23]

Of course they don't like him. Kobe was standing in the way of their own legacy. As Kobe was racking up championship rings, they both kept failing. Why do you think they decided to team up? Better to have a joined legacy than no legacy at all.


I don't remember Cleveland or Miami losing to Lakers in the playoffs :confusedshrug:

[Mr. Incredible]

I know LeBron respects Kobe. He looks up to him and he knows everyone will always compare his career to Kobe's as far as championships are concerned. That's a fact. I also believe they are mutual friends. However, I feel Kobe doesn't like LeBron as much as LeBron thinks he does.

[d21221hk]

so thats 5 dollars?
More than 7 I tell you that cos I gave bladers that much for his half fulfilled promise. :lol

[guy]

Wouldn't surprise me at all if they are bitter towards him due to his success and championships. Not because they think he's better then them but because he's considered so much more highly regarded by the media who just ignores how he got to play with one of the most dominant players ever for 8 years who was the main reason for 3 of his championships. And then when they join up together they get hated on despite playing on much worse teams then Kobe did outside of 3 years without much complaint while Kobe publicly demanded a trade after only 3 years on a bad team when he was a big part of the reason he had a bad team in the first place. And yes I know Wade and Lebron had a chance and lost, but its only been 1 year so far and no matter what they still wouldn't be playing with someone as dominant as prime Shaq.

I hate on Lebron and Wade too and I'm not saying they don't deserve it. I also hate on Kobe as well. I'm just saying I could see why they might be bitter towards him.

[LamarOdom]

LeBron as a high school player had posters of Kobe in his room. So he did like him as a kid, of course as competitors it's a diffrent story. '

But any man that has five ring as a star on a team should be respected.

[Phong]

I don't remember Cleveland or Miami losing to Lakers in the playoffs :confusedshrug:Whose legacy kept getting bigger while theirs were completely stagnant? While they were all chasing MJ, LeBron and Wade couldn't even catch up with Kobe.

As for disliking Kobe, I only get that vibe from Wade. He's been bitter and taking jabs at Kobe for a while now.

[zizozain]

so why is it nearly every star basketball player wants to play with Kobe?...

TMAC , Vince , Dirk , Dwight , Bird , MJ , Melo, Lamar , all wanted to play with Kobe and think he is the best....

Nearly every observer thinks Kobe is and has been better then Lebron....Kobe was voted player of the decade by a huge Margin.

this past year Lebron is viewed as the best player in the NBA ....just wait till June.

and MJ never kept anyone from winning titles.....Magic and Bird won many titles....Bird owned MJ Bull's every year in the postseason...Drexler played many years in Portland and lost to L.A. and DET before Losing again to Chi.

Barkley ruined his team in PHI (who won a Title the year before) before he lost to Chi....John Stockton and Malone played nearly 2 decades....who beat them the other 15 years???..it wasn't MJ...


Jordan won titles in a waterd down league....many observers also thought Dominique was better then MJ too...


your logic is a Fail


andgar923 = brucy

brucblitz doesn't have the heart to post with his main account after
what happened in the Finals last 3 seasons

suck it brucy .. SUCK IT

[Draz]

people really think the three faces of the league don't like each other in person?

[AlphaWolf24]

LOL no. Who has ever thought that? Since when did "Nique should've won that dunk contest over Jordan" become "Nique was better then Jordan"?


up until about age 26 - 27 years old...Nique was definatley on par with MJ...many even thought Nique>MJ

[donald_trump]

I think they all respect each other, and deservedly so. But I always get the feeling that Wade is a bit jealous of Kobe, probably because of his accomplishments and popularity.

thats because he gets them undeservedly over him.

why was kobe on the 1st last year over wade? name. not because he was better.

it was hilarious at the start of the season when jeff van gundy was shocked that wade wasn't on the 1st team last season.

[DMAVS41]

Its a jealousy thing.

Wade and Lebron probably feel slighted when everyone still refers to Kobe as the best player in the game...or at least has for a few years prior to this.

They also thought that Kobe only won because he had a very good supporting cast and coach. Lebron especially still hasn't learned (or maybe he finally has) how hard winning a NBA title is.

So I think its just jealousy and insecurity. Part of it is validated because they have been as good or better than Kobe for years now...and especially Wade gets no credit. But they failed to win a title together last year and that would have changed the narrative....they didn't and that is on them...not Kobe or the media.

[LBJ 23]

Whose legacy kept getting bigger while theirs were completely stagnant? While they were all chasing MJ, LeBron and Wade couldn't even catch up with Kobe.

As for disliking Kobe, I only get that vibe from Wade. He's been bitter and taking jabs at Kobe for a while now.

Bolded part is irrelevant...

You said


Kobe was standing in the way of their own legacy.


All I'm saying is that that's not true cuz Kobe never directly or even indirectly prevented them getting a ring.

[DirtySanchez]

I think they all have respect and want to compete. All that is.
Kobe is in a place in his career where LeBron and Wade want to be so of course they both want to go after him each time.

[DMAVS41]

Bolded part is irrelevant...

You said




All I'm saying is that that's not true cuz Kobe never directly or even indirectly prevented them getting a ring.

Kobe actually enhanced Wade's legacy. If Kobe doesn't run Shaq/Phil out of La...the 06 playoff run simply never happens.

[Da_Realist]

up until about age 26 - 27 years old...Nique was definatley on par with MJ...many even thought Nique>MJ

:oldlol:

I'd love to see quotes, articles or some other kind of evidence.

[caliman]

I don't know if you guys remember but when USC played Oregon Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Melo, & CP3 were at the game. Everyone but Kobe was hanging out together. I think Kobe is really cool with Melo but everyone else he doesn't really care about. One of the reasons I didn't really want CP3 on the Lakers. One of Lebron's BFFs playing with a person he is jealous of.

http://balljunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/50170_NpAdvSinglePhoto.jpg


It was confirmed that Kobe WAS NOT at that game.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

I don't know about DWade, but Lebron and Kobe have very deep respect for each other.
Well documented what Lebron has said about Kobe over the years.
Kobe now regularly refers to Lebron as a modern-day Big O... which is very high praise indeed.

[caliman]

Um, the spoiled douche is Mr. Kobe Bryant, who had championship players around him in all his runs that basically carried his ass. Wade got his by going into beast mode by himself and to this day has the best finals performance EVER. Yet noone really cares.


:facepalm

[TheMan]

LBJ and Wade together sometimes act like immature douchebags, like the way they made fun of Dirk during the Finals...that one came back and bit them in the ass hard.

[TheMan]

so why is it nearly every star basketball player wants to play with Kobe?...

TMAC , Vince , Dirk , Dwight , Bird , MJ , Melo, Lamar , all wanted to play with Kobe and think he is the best....

Nearly every observer thinks Kobe is and has been better then Lebron....Kobe was voted player of the decade by a huge Margin.

this past year Lebron is viewed as the best player in the NBA ....just wait till June.

and MJ never kept anyone from winning titles.....Magic and Bird won many titles....Bird owned MJ Bull's every year in the postseason...Drexler played many years in Portland and lost to L.A. and DET before Losing again to Chi.

Barkley ruined his team in PHI (who won a Title the year before) before he lost to Chi....John Stockton and Malone played nearly 2 decades....who beat them the other 15 years???..it wasn't MJ...


Jordan won titles in a waterd down league....many observers also thought Dominique was better then MJ too...


your logic is a Fail
This is a dumb post...an d that's saying something here at ISH:facepalm

[AlphaWolf24]

:oldlol:

I'd love to see quotes, articles or some other kind of evidence.


will the biggest sports media outletat the time suffice???

http://sportscasm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Dominique-Wilkins-Sorts-Illustrated-Cover-1986.jpg

Well, wonder of wonders, deep into April the name of Dominique Wilkins is still on everyone's lips. After winning the NBA's regular-season scoring championship with a 30.3 average,


Back in early February, after Wilkins had been named to the Eastern Conference All-Star team for the first time, Bird said that Wilkins would have been the league's MVP if the vote had been taken then. And Wilkins did nothing to lower anyone's opinion of him during the rest of the season. He was Atlanta's leading scorer in 26 of its final 28 games (he sat out one of the two in which he wasn't) and his lowest point total during that stretch was 21. He edged Utah's Adrian Dantley (29.83) and Denver's Alex English (29.80) in the scoring race by averaging 39.2 points over the last six games. Even with Wilkins gunning for the title

[AlphaWolf24]

This is a dumb post...an d that's saying something here at ISH:facepalm


go away kid....you aint on my level....nor were you watching hoops then to even know what i'm talkin bout.



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[Da_Realist]

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]will the biggest sports media outletat the time suffice???

http://sportscasm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Dominique-Wilkins-Sorts-Illustrated-Cover-1986.jpg

Well, wonder of wonders, deep into April the name of Dominique Wilkins is still on everyone's lips. After winning the NBA's regular-season scoring championship with a 30.3 average,


Back in early February, after Wilkins had been named to the Eastern Conference All-Star team for the first time, Bird said that Wilkins would have been the league's MVP if the vote had been taken then. And Wilkins did nothing to lower anyone's opinion of him during the rest of the season. He was Atlanta's leading scorer in 26 of its final 28 games (he sat out one of the two in which he wasn't) and his lowest point total during that stretch was 21. He edged Utah's Adrian Dantley (29.83) and Denver's Alex English (29.80) in the scoring race by averaging 39.2 points over the last six games. Even with Wilkins gunning for the title

[AlphaWolf24]

Does that say April 1986? The same year MJ was out with a leg injury? :rolleyes: And it still didn't say Dominique was better than MJ. It just said Dominique was playing well.


he led the league in scoring and the leagues best player called him the MVP....

and his teams were actually playing better and getting further in the playoff's then Jordan's teams through 1988....

so the leagues scoring Champion and MVP candidate is not on par with MJ???....if you watched basketball then you would understand how good Nique was and how it was debated who was better Nique or MJ....MJ by 1990 was widely viewed as the better player...but before that it was a toss up.

[FindingTim]

go away kid....you aint on my level....nor were you watching hoops then to even know what i'm talkin bout.



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just so you know, calling everyone "kid" makes you seem really insecure and immature.

and even if he "isn't on your level" does that preclude him from trying to have a discussion? you are taking narcissism to a whole new level. it's gross.

[Da_Realist]

he led the league in scoring and the leagues best player called him the MVP....

Bird calling him MVP in a season where MJ was hurt just means he's playing well. Doesn't mean he thought he was better than MJ. Dominique didn't even win the MVP that year. And even then...MJ only played one full season at that point.


and his teams were actually playing better and getting further in the playoff's then Jordan's teams through 1988....

so the leagues scoring Champion and MVP candidate is not on par with MJ???....if you watched basketball then you would understand how good Nique was and how it was debated who was better Nique or MJ....MJ by 1990 was widely viewed as the better player...but before that it was a toss up.

No, it wasn't. Dominique was good but no one thought he was better than MJ.

86 -- MJ was injured

87 -- maybe a few people thought Dominique belonged in the conversation

88 -- forget about it. the only people that were put in front of MJ that was playing at the time were Bird and Magic (and by default, Kareem), and that was because they won titles, not ability.

89 -- :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

90 -- :roll: :roll: :roll:

I know you can do better than this. Or can't you? Still waiting on proof to the contrary...

[rodman91]

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2011/11/e867d00cdebd568de58f2ad3d8ee6927.jpg

Kobe owns Lebron in this pic.

[bwink23]

just so you know, calling everyone "kid" makes you seem really insecure and immature.

and even if he "isn't on your level" does that preclude him from trying to have a discussion? you are taking narcissism to a whole new level. it's gross.


Kobe is his favorite player of all time, that should tell you how old he really is. And the narcissism?? Well, Kobe is his favorite player. He's like KB42PAH's ex-boyfriend....:pimp:

[bwink23]

Kobe owns Lebron in this pic.


Lebron's woman wouldn't be bad if she took about 25 pounds out of the trunk.

[TheMan]

go away kid....you aint on my level....nor were you watching hoops then to even know what i'm talkin bout.



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You are right, I'm not on your level of stupidity,(you get mentioned a bunch of times on the Worst Poster Thread, exactly for this) I started watching basketball in the mid 80s and I don't recall people saying Nique was on Bird's, Magic or MJ's level, the 3 players most sports writers were saying were the best players of that decade.

Just because you are a MVP candidate doesn't mean you're the BEST player that year, case in point, you gonna tell me Nash was better than Shaq when he won MVP, was Barkley better than Jordan when he won his?How bout last year, LBJ was the best player yet Rose was MVP because he was the most valuable player on a team that came from nowhere and won 62 games:facepalm

Nique being considered MVP caliber player does not mean he was better than Magic, Bird or Jordan during the 80's:no:

[Tenchi Ryu]

Lebron's woman wouldn't be bad if she took about 25 pounds out of the trunk.
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
Hell no...you keep that phat ass, you don't get rid of it.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I used to like Wade.

When he was with Shaq during their championship, he seemed like a humble person. Seemed down to earth.

Now, his ego is out of control. He just looks jealous of anyone with a sportscenter spot.

2004-2006 with Shaq is when Wade became the favorite player of many of my friends.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

it's the oedipal complex, Lebron and Wade both spent their adolescent years watching Kobe tearing up the league. So Kobe's their metaphorical father and they get to the league wanting to tear him down. But they realize they can't so they band together.

For Lebron, the hatred is even deeper because his real father left him. So that displaced anger is transferred onto Kobe.

These Kobetards are something else :roll:

[ImKobe]

if you already haven't y'all need to watch this shit and realize these ****** are friends while they making hundreds of millions, while y'all be choosing sides and acting like they enemies & shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTcvtN2ej50

[stalkerforlife]

it's the oedipal complex, Lebron and Wade both spent their adolescent years watching Kobe tearing up the league. So Kobe's their metaphorical father and they get to the league wanting to tear him down. But they realize they can't so they band together.

For Lebron, the hatred is even deeper because his real father left him. So that displaced anger is transferred onto Kobe.

Deep. :applause: