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RazorBaLade
02-29-2012, 06:41 PM
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7631141/source-los-angeles-lakers-reject-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-offer-michael-beasley

The Minnesota Timberwolves offered to trade Michael Beasley to the Los Angeles Lakers for a first-round draft pick, but the Lakers turned them down, according to a league source. Since there is a dollar-for-dollar penalty for tax-paying teams, taking on Beasley's $6.2 million contract would add another $6.2 million to their tax bill and cost the Lakers an extra $12.4 million.


I DO NOT WANT JIM BUSS ANY MORE

The_Yearning
02-29-2012, 06:42 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:






























:facepalm

qrich
02-29-2012, 06:42 PM
:hammerhead:

(e)
02-29-2012, 06:44 PM
Wow!

HurricaneKid
02-29-2012, 06:44 PM
Its far less than that as we are halfway through the season. Probably an extra 6.4M to have someone with the ability to score coming off the pine.

I didn't know Sterling bought the Lakers...

bagelred
02-29-2012, 06:45 PM
I've said this before with Barbosa. Taking on Beasley adds a HUGE tax cost for the year for what 30 games? And give up a 1st rounder? Not worth it..........

KOBEtherealKing
02-29-2012, 06:48 PM
I understand. Mitch probably said tpe or nothing. Lakers need cap space.

RazorBaLade
02-29-2012, 06:48 PM
I've said this before with Barbosa. Taking on Beasley adds a HUGE tax cost for the year for what 30 games? And give up a 1st rounder? Not worth it..........

Ya for every other team... But we've always spent money to win. Always. Suddenly we are cutting costs? Its really the only way TO win. This guy is a GAME CHANGER if he lives up to even half his potential. Also doesn't he have another yr on his contract?

So basically we can only use the TPE..... Which we have yet to use and may not use at all. Nice.

MeLO MvP 15
02-29-2012, 06:50 PM
I've said this before with Barbosa. Taking on Beasley adds a HUGE tax cost for the year for what 30 games? And give up a 1st rounder? Not worth it..........
BUT.... if a team actually wants Beasley (and LA should), getting his bird rights in the summer AND the extra 1/3-1/2 of a season with him, could be enough to warrant giving up a first and pay the extra money.

LABean
02-29-2012, 06:50 PM
I'm just wondering how we can get MarShon Brooks. :pimp:
Anyone have a good scenario for that? :hammerhead:

KeyNote
02-29-2012, 06:52 PM
So they're going to go into the playoff with the big 3 and a bunch of scrubs

this is UNBELIEVABLE

StacksOnDeck
02-29-2012, 06:53 PM
Way I see it is that they're not in a hurry to make a deal since March 15th is 2 weeks away. They probably want to see if the picks can be added in a Dwight package.

bmulls
02-29-2012, 06:54 PM
I almost feel bad for the Lakers. They thought they would have CP3 and Dwight this season, now they have nothing.


JK that's hilarious :lol

KeyNote
02-29-2012, 06:56 PM
Every time metta world peace bricks a lay up, air balls a 3, or dribbles like an old man into traffic for a turnover..kobe should pick the ball up and chuck it up at the jim buss' luxury box

RazorBaLade
02-29-2012, 06:58 PM
Every time metta world peace bricks a lay up, air balls a 3, or dribbles like an old man into traffic for a turnover..kobe should pick the ball up and chuck it up at the jim buss' luxury box

:roll: :applause:

RazorBaLade
02-29-2012, 06:59 PM
Way I see it is that they're not in a hurry to make a deal since March 15th is 2 weeks away. They probably want to see if the picks can be added in a Dwight package.

we dont need dwight we need a PG and a SF.

Its ridiculous. The only strength this team has they want to make it stronger instead of improving our weaknesses

chazzy
02-29-2012, 07:01 PM
we dont need dwight we need a PG and a SF.

Its ridiculous. The only strength this team has they want to make it stronger instead of improving our weaknesses
I think PG is the priority. They have 2 weeks to weigh their options, probably don't want to give up their assets right now when they may be used in a better deal.

KeyNote
02-29-2012, 07:02 PM
the lakers really F'd themselves after the CP3 veto by not using the amnesty on metta world peace man

AirTupac
02-29-2012, 07:03 PM
Wow, this really pissed me off but theres one explanation, they got something planned. If they don't pull something off before the deadline, I'm gonna finally explode.

RaininTwos
02-29-2012, 07:04 PM
Wow, this really pissed me off but theres one explanation, they got something planned. If they don't pull something off before the deadline, I'm gonna finally explode.
This makes sense but I really would like to see Beas on the lakers.

chazzy
02-29-2012, 07:05 PM
the lakers really F'd themselves after the CP3 veto by not using the amnesty on metta world peace man
He doesn't create any cap space for them to use and they would still have to pay him, so it would've been pointless.

flipogb
02-29-2012, 07:05 PM
Wow, this really pissed me off but theres one explanation, they got something planned. If they don't pull something off before the deadline, I'm gonna finally explode.
same here, has to be something

Whoah10115
02-29-2012, 07:06 PM
I really think they might have to trade Gasol.



Why? Kobe is gonna make a billion dollars the next few years. To have that much money on one guy, then to have another guy at a max level (Gasol) and then have another guy making $12Million+...and then people wonder why they can't go out and get so and so. Of course the Big 3 is all they have.



Which is what makes this passed up trade completely ridiculous. It's not like the Lakers have a lot of options, and you don't want Beasley? LOL. Alright then. So what does this idiot owner want to do then?


They should use their TPE and trade for Lamar Odom lol.

InspiredLebowski
02-29-2012, 07:06 PM
Welcome to NBA reality Laker fans

AirTupac
02-29-2012, 07:07 PM
Welcome to NBA reality Laker fans

NO FU DONT SAY THAT

CLTHornets4eva
02-29-2012, 07:08 PM
So they're going to go into the playoff with the big 3 and a bunch of scrubs

this is UNBELIEVABLE
:no:

Trade deadline is 16 days away. Chill.

I understand not losing your cap flexibility for Beasley. They need to package that first to get rid of Walton, Blake or Metta.

Phanatik
02-29-2012, 07:10 PM
There's gotta be something planned. Or else they would have taken Beasley.

flipogb
02-29-2012, 07:10 PM
if Fisher is not starting anymore after the trade deadline, I can forgive any stupid move they make including this one

AMISTILLILL
02-29-2012, 07:15 PM
Its far less than that as we are halfway through the season. Probably an extra 6.4M to have someone with the ability to score coming off the pine.

I didn't know Sterling bought the Lakers...

The bench? Beasley would almost certainly start over the terrible likes of Barnes and Artest.

stallionaire
02-29-2012, 07:16 PM
Wow Kahn is an idiot for not trying to get more. Great news for Laker haters like me. BEAT LA.

GOBB
02-29-2012, 07:18 PM
Why would the Lakers take on that kind of cap hit for Beasley? I'd turn it down too. I know I know its the Lakers, they spend whatever. $12mil bill for Beasley? If you think he impacts the Lakers that much, then ok. I just dont. He'd help but he wouldnt help $12mil ways thats for sure.

WeGetRing2012
02-29-2012, 07:19 PM
Senior writer Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.


Lakers aren't stupid wait until this all plays out. We can unload some players.

RaininTwos
02-29-2012, 07:20 PM
I dont think anyone is going to take any corpses from the lakers.

Droid101
02-29-2012, 07:21 PM
Why would the Lakers take on that kind of cap hit for Beasley? I'd turn it down too. I know I know its the Lakers, they spend whatever. $12mil bill for Beasley? If you think he impacts the Lakers that much, then ok. I just dont. He'd help but he wouldnt help $12mil ways thats for sure.
The prorated portion of the salary they'd have to pay (less than half a full season) is peanuts to take a flyer and see if it helps them make another run.

I agree with those that are saying another move must be happening if they turned this down.

stallionaire
02-29-2012, 07:25 PM
I'm happy the Wolves aren't pursuing Gasol. Hopefully we deal Beas to the Nets or Celtics before the deadline.

FlawlessVictory
02-29-2012, 07:25 PM
Why would the Lakers take on that kind of cap hit for Beasley? I'd turn it down too. I know I know its the Lakers, they spend whatever. $12mil bill for Beasley? If you think he impacts the Lakers that much, then ok. I just dont. He'd help but he wouldnt help $12mil ways thats for sure.
I agree he is not worth 12 million, but even if he improves their chances in the playoffs by 5%, surely its a risk worth taking IF the Lakers are being run like they were for years (i.e Pay whatever to win).

It seems pretty obvious now that with the Odom salary dump and stories like this that the Lakers are now tracking the pennies like never before.

bagelred
02-29-2012, 07:26 PM
Why would the Lakers take on that kind of cap hit for Beasley? I'd turn it down too. I know I know its the Lakers, they spend whatever. $12mil bill for Beasley? If you think he impacts the Lakers that much, then ok. I just dont. He'd help but he wouldnt help $12mil ways thats for sure.

It's not $12 million. More like $9 million but still........alot of cash and pick for rental of a inconsistent player.

Droid101
02-29-2012, 07:27 PM
It seems pretty obvious now that with the Odom salary dump and stories like this that the Lakers are now tracking the pennies like never before.
It started back when they dumped Sasha's salary for an expiring Joe Smith.

Downhill since then.

****.

Crown&Coke
02-29-2012, 07:27 PM
The prorated portion of the salary they'd have to pay (less than half a full season) is peanuts to take a flyer and see if it helps them make another run.

I agree with those that are saying another move must be happening if they turned this down.

but they pay all of the luxury tax on his deal, so half of what 6.2 on salary, plus his full salary in tax

I like Beas, but I understand why they declined at this time, although I wish they would just accept it

Whoah10115
02-29-2012, 07:30 PM
Doesn't the entirety of Kobe's contract count against the salary cap? So that's over $25Million this year, over $27Million next year, and over $30Million the last year. Does it all count against the salary cap? If not, then...



AGAIN, that much money on one guy, a max level for another, and over $12Million for the last guy...so if they're not willing to pay luxury tax in cases like this, then what do they expect to do? It's that or trade Pau Gasol for cheaper pieces, which might be the right move anyway.

UtahJazzFan88
02-29-2012, 07:32 PM
Why would the Lakers take on that kind of cap hit for Beasley? I'd turn it down too. I know I know its the Lakers, they spend whatever. $12mil bill for Beasley? If you think he impacts the Lakers that much, then ok. I just dont. He'd help but he wouldnt help $12mil ways thats for sure.

I think he could help for sure, and it's really shocking if the Lakers are doing this to save money (remains to be seen if they are or not), but back to the point. I think the Lakers could still be West contenders if they had Beasley + Sessions or Beasley + Felton like some have thrown around.

I don't think the Lakers are that far off really if they had those two pieces. Maybe it's due to the fact I like Beasley along side Kobe/Bynum/Gasol.

DirtySanchez
02-29-2012, 07:32 PM
Maybe they got to save that 1st rounder for another deal. Just my 2 cents.

B
02-29-2012, 07:32 PM
Wow, this really pissed me off but theres one explanation, they got something planned. A couple things first being the Lakers cannot get Beasley for just a draft pick. Draft picks have no value which would mean the TPE was in play for the Timberwolves and the Lakers don't want to give it up yet or at least they don't want to give it up to be stuck with a contract that would cost them 20 million plus the next 2 years.

arifgokcen
02-29-2012, 07:33 PM
I agree he is not worth 12 million, but even if he improves their chances in the playoffs by 5%, surely its a risk worth taking IF the Lakers are being run like they were for years (i.e Pay whatever to win).

It seems pretty obvious now that with the Odom salary dump and stories like this that the Lakers are now tracking the pennies like never before.

The implications of new CBA coming alive

We all know they would pay whatever to win however the new CBA even for lakers is too much.They have more than 87 million for next year.After that 61 million.Dont forget if they take on Beasley they would have 94 million.In 3-4 years the amount of tax they are gonna have to pay will be more cap itself.Probably they are not gonna have any chance of winning at all.I think signing kobe to that deal was a mistake.I know how valuable he is to the franchise however they are not gonna be able to contend for the next three years and probably they are gonna have to pay tax more than anyone

DirtySanchez
02-29-2012, 07:34 PM
Not getting to hot over this...The Laker can always change their minds and revisit the deal before the March 15 deadline.

Bosnian Sajo
02-29-2012, 07:36 PM
No way man....what the hell, you have a 5 billion dollar TV deal, and yet you can't afford Beasley's contract? Get out of here man, what has our organization come to....

BlackVVaves
02-29-2012, 07:37 PM
Luxury tax or not, you have a closing window to win a title, you're own superstar knows it's not happening with the utter garbage you have compiled on your roster, you get a chance to get a needed piece at the small forward position that can actually SCORE and you ****ing say no?

Lakers fans, whether you want to admit it now or not, welcome to the dark ages. Jim Buss will have this team in the lottery with a still productive Kobe Bryant in a year's time. Might as well buy your Clippers jersey's now.

MK2V1GP
02-29-2012, 07:37 PM
:lol :lol :lol

RazorBaLade
02-29-2012, 07:37 PM
Why is walton not ****ing amnestied? THATS the 12 million that we dont want to pay. Beasley would freaking earn it.


This team is paying walton 10 mil but passes on paying beasley 12.

Like someone else said tho, they will be judged AFTER the trade deadline not before.. but its not looking good

04mzwach
02-29-2012, 07:39 PM
I hope Kahn fools the Lakers into giving up too much.

LakersReign
02-29-2012, 07:39 PM
Well, at first I didn't really believe the rumor anyway. But if the Lakers don't do this deal, there has to be another reason. Hopefully they are working on something bigger. Doesn't make sense to jump into this for all that money over the cap, when they could get one or two players for the same kind of money. Let's see how this plays out

BlackVVaves
02-29-2012, 07:40 PM
Not getting to hot over this...The Laker can always change their minds and revisit the deal before the March 15 deadline.

Yea, because the Celtics and Nets aren't on the phone as I type this, working the kinks to a deal out.

B
02-29-2012, 07:40 PM
Why is walton not ****ing amnestied? THATS the 12 million that we dont want to pay. Beasley would freaking earn it.


This team is paying walton 10 mil but passes on paying beasley 12.

Like someone else said tho, they will be judged AFTER the trade deadline not before.. but its not looking goodAt the end of the season Wlatons contract becomes valuble in trade negotiations as an expiring contract. You don't waste the amnesty clause on a one year contract

HurricaneKid
02-29-2012, 07:42 PM
How long have Laker fans been saying "there must be something else going on"?

Lil' Buss done put Mitch in the corner for having a team salary so high. He is just going to cash those TV checks for the next 25 years.

HurricaneKid
02-29-2012, 07:44 PM
[QUOTE=B

Whoah10115
02-29-2012, 07:48 PM
[QUOTE=B

GOBB
02-29-2012, 07:49 PM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

How many times have you seen an expiring deal get traded since the new CBA was in force? Kaman has been an all-star and they can't get a sack of peanuts for him. Do you seriously think Walton's deal is an asset? You are off your meds.

The new CBA was just put together. How many trades have there been since the CBA was in force? OMG OMG not many, that means trading is so yesterday! :eek: :cry:

:rolleyes:

Walton packed in a trade is an asset a team on the recieving end wouldnt mind. It could be a 3 team deal that gets Walton in return. Saving money is never a bad thing. Kaman hasnt been dealt because the NOH have no plans to eat any bad contracts. They only want young talent in return or cap flexibility which Kaman is.

Smarten up.

HylianNightmare
02-29-2012, 07:52 PM
Stupid lakers

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
02-29-2012, 07:58 PM
Laker Fans need to calm the fcuk down...and forget about last nights game against clippers....

The new CBA would choke the lakers to death on paying luxury tax....Minny wants the TPE + 1st round pick....thats double plus for them..

They save move + get 1st rounder.....if they want they can have Walton(expirer next year) + 1st

stephanieg
02-29-2012, 08:04 PM
Why wouldn't the Lakers want an inefficient non-rebounding tweener? Basketball is so hard! Then again, he's probably better than Artest...

KeyNote
02-29-2012, 08:05 PM
Absolutely. And why would anyone bother to amnesty Luke Walton, when they can amnesty the worst player in the NBA right now? Artest has an extra year on his contract and actually makes more money. Walton could also still be a decent guy to have on the Lakers roster...and again, Ron Artest sucks on an altogether different level.

this

talkingconch
02-29-2012, 08:06 PM
Though the Lakers have turned down Minnesota, it is possible they could change their minds before the March 15 deadline. With the Lakers sputtering on offense, Beasley would have been a welcome addition.

not worried yet

bleedinpurpleTwo
02-29-2012, 08:06 PM
something is not right here.
It could not be MERELY a first round pick. There had to be other assets involved.
Also, other teams would have been approached under that scenario...and NO ONE gave up a first round pick?
c'mon...this story is grossly incomplete.

Human Error
02-29-2012, 08:10 PM
As a basketball fan who likes to get entertained, I want the Lakers find other way to get Beasley. I get the feeling that SuperCoolBeas would thrive in LA. I like Adelman as a coach better than Kurt Rambis but I don't understand the logic behind starting Wesley Johnson over Beasley, when you have your bench scoring 72 points, it doesn't mean that you have a great bench, it's more like you're staring the wrong guys.

KOBEtherealKing
02-29-2012, 08:15 PM
Maybe they got to save that 1st rounder for another deal. Just my 2 cents.

no one wants your 2 pennies


JUST KIDDING :D

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
02-29-2012, 08:25 PM
John Ireland is saying they wanted both 2 1st round picks...minny can go fcuk themselves if think they can get 2 1st rounders for Beas

RazorBaLade
02-29-2012, 08:27 PM
If this happens the Lakers can land Dwight and Rondo :eek:

stop it you mother****er dont do this to me

these rumors are KILLING ME

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
02-29-2012, 08:27 PM
If this happens the Lakers can land Dwight and Rondo :eek:

when was that written?

bleedinpurpleTwo
02-29-2012, 08:27 PM
If this happens the Lakers can land Dwight and Rondo :eek:
how so?
What are the Laker going to give Orlando other than Bynum?

RazorBaLade
02-29-2012, 08:27 PM
John Ireland is saying they wanted both 2 1st round picks...minny can go fcuk themselves if they can get 2 1st rounders for Beas

Wow seriously? the only way thats too much is if u want one of those picks for howard tho...

talkingconch
02-29-2012, 08:27 PM
According to Peter Vecsey of the New York Post, discussions have ensued between the Lakers and Celtics centering around a swap of Pau Gasol and Rajon Rondo. The extent of such negotiations are unknown, but the teams are said to be making preliminary moves to ready themselves for the potential trade.

:roll: do it Ainge

If this happens the Lakers can POTENTIALLY land Dwight and Rondo :eek:

talkingconch
02-29-2012, 08:30 PM
when was that written?


stop it you mother****er dont do this to me

these rumors are KILLING ME

lol I don't think that is a rumor. someone confirm? 3 days ago written.

ainge :roll: If we can get Rondo for Pau Gasol I'm not even opening my mouth on that one.


how so?
What are the Laker going to give Orlando other than Bynum?

Add another player, TPE, or get 3rd team involved. Point is, we still have bynum if that trade goes through :roll:

DirtySanchez
02-29-2012, 08:30 PM
Laker Fans need to calm the fcuk down...and forget about last nights game against clippers....

The new CBA would choke the lakers to death on paying luxury tax....Minny wants the TPE + 1st round pick....thats double plus for them..

They save move + get 1st rounder.....if they want they can have Walton(expirer next year) + 1st

Pick plus TPE? huh

WeGetRing2012
02-29-2012, 08:35 PM
:roll: do it Ainge

If this happens the Lakers can POTENTIALLY land Dwight and Rondo :eek:

It is crazy right now. SO MANY RUMORS!!! :violin: :violin:

WeGetRing2012
02-29-2012, 08:36 PM
And Chris Broussard is such a troll for the Nets.

FireDavidKahn
02-29-2012, 08:41 PM
John Ireland is saying they wanted both 2 1st round picks...minny can go fcuk themselves if think they can get 2 1st rounders for Beas
Link? Nothing about that on his twitter.

bdreason
02-29-2012, 08:43 PM
Obviously the trade was for the 9M TPE and a 1st round pick. The Lakers can't just absorb Beasley's salary.

RazorBaLade
02-29-2012, 08:56 PM
Obviously the trade was for the 9M TPE and a 1st round pick. The Lakers can't just absorb Beasley's salary.

You can't combine them so it would mean they had to have given us someone for the TPE (or beasley for the tpe, and someone else for the pick)

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
02-29-2012, 09:15 PM
Link? Nothing about that on his twitter.

ESPN 710 radio

Story Up
02-29-2012, 09:15 PM
You can't combine them so it would mean they had to have given us someone for the TPE (or beasley for the tpe, and someone else for the pick)
So how was Odom traded for TPE and pick?

stallionaire
02-29-2012, 09:17 PM
Why wouldn't the Lakers want an inefficient non-rebounding tweener? Basketball is so hard! Then again, he's probably better than Artest...
Kahn needs to keep stringing the Lakers along. I want a first round pick and tpe for Beas. Get it done Kahn.

FireDavidKahn
02-29-2012, 09:22 PM
So how was Odom traded for TPE and pick?
He never was traded for a TPE. The trade of Odom CREATED a TPE for the Lakers.

KeyNote
02-29-2012, 09:52 PM
Link? Nothing about that on his twitter.

he said it on 710 ESPN during his radio show

longtime lurker
02-29-2012, 10:04 PM
Nothing to be too concerned about yet, they can always revisit this during the deadline. Guess the Lakers still have visions of Dwight Howard in their head. Don't know how that will play out. And for the posters saying that Luke Walton will be valuable next season if the Lakers aren't willing to take on salary now, what makes you think they'd be willing to take on a longer contract next year?

Whoah10115
02-29-2012, 10:09 PM
He never was traded for a TPE. The trade of Odom CREATED a TPE for the Lakers.



So when they use the TPE to acquire someone, does that give the other team that TPE? Is there a specified amount of time they have to use it?

InspiredLebowski
02-29-2012, 10:12 PM
So when they use the TPE to acquire someone, does that give the other team that TPE? Is there a specified amount of time they have to use it?If they were to trade the TPE for Beasley, the TPE disappears. A team that has a TPE has 365 days from the date they acquired it to use it, or it disappears.

Whoah10115
02-29-2012, 10:22 PM
If they were to trade the TPE for Beasley, the TPE disappears. A team that has a TPE has 365 days from the date they acquired it to use it, or it disappears.



But that means the T'Wolves get it, right? They get the worth of whatever Beasley's contract is?

longtime lurker
02-29-2012, 10:25 PM
So when they use the TPE to acquire someone, does that give the other team that TPE? Is there a specified amount of time they have to use it?

Lakers get Beasley for the TPE. Wolves get a TPE worth whatever Beasley's salary is. The amount of time to use it is a year from the transaction. Not positive on that though.

Whoah10115
02-29-2012, 10:45 PM
Thank you both.

305Baller
02-29-2012, 11:07 PM
BUSS = NOT iN TITLE MODE

B
02-29-2012, 11:17 PM
So when they use the TPE to acquire someone, does that give the other team that TPE? Is there a specified amount of time they have to use it?
The Lakers have one year from trade date to use the TPE

The Timberwolves would not get a TPE in the trade because they are under the cap already and would be shedding even more with Beasley gone, there's no reason for it.

Whoah10115
03-01-2012, 12:04 AM
[QUOTE=B

bluechox2
03-01-2012, 12:53 AM
im sure the wolves can get real talent for beas

WeGetRing2012
03-01-2012, 12:57 AM
So all the T'Wolves would get is Beasley's contract off their books?

And a 1st round pick

hawkfan
03-01-2012, 01:28 AM
The Lakers could have amnestied Luke Walton at the beginning of the season, and then traded for Beasley and there would no difference financially for the Lakers.

Terrible.

hawkfan
03-01-2012, 01:29 AM
So all the T'Wolves would get is Beasley's contract off their books?

They would also get a trade exception they could use for a year.
So they could do a sign and trade with another team for another player.
That part of it is real helpful.

unbreakable
03-01-2012, 02:25 AM
lakers must have something in mind otherwise this is a no brainer.

im thinking picks+tpe+something are still in the works for dwight.

jjayfive
03-01-2012, 02:35 AM
that's a good deal for the lakers... damn salary cap...

All Net
03-01-2012, 06:58 AM
Ugh

So much for it being a pipe dream from laker fans thinking we could get him with a pick.

Artillery
03-01-2012, 07:38 AM
The Lakers could have amnestied Luke Walton at the beginning of the season, and then traded for Beasley and there would no difference financially for the Lakers.

Terrible.

Lakers have a lot of big contracts. Wouldn't be the wisest choice to waste the amnesty on Walton just to bring in someone like Beasley. Probably saving it for a more significant move.

Noof
03-01-2012, 07:54 AM
Wow, **** Jim! What a dumbass :facepalm

Luka27
03-01-2012, 08:00 AM
He never was traded for a TPE. The trade of Odom CREATED a TPE for the Lakers.
Wasnt he traded for trade exception, that Dallas got from Sign&trade of Chandler to Knicks? Dallas also wasnt under salary cap, so they couldnt just absorb Odom contract.

bluechox2
03-01-2012, 08:13 AM
why do we have stupid teams in this league?
the one for offering

teams sure as hell love to gift wrap talent to the lakers

bluechox2
03-01-2012, 08:15 AM
Wasnt he traded for trade exception, that Dallas got from Sign&trade of Chandler to Knicks? Dallas also wasnt under salary cap, so they couldnt just absorb Odom contract.

yup, dallas got the TPE from the knicks deal and then the lakers traded for that TPE

Funnyfuka
03-01-2012, 09:46 AM
everyone wants to get rid of beasley after a while spent with his sorry lazy immature pot smoking ass.

glidedrxlr22
03-01-2012, 11:34 AM
As a laker hater I'm glad the Lakers rejected this deal cause Beasley is exactly what LA needs right now. He'd step right into the starting SF spot. I'm surprised cause the lakers usually pony up the cash to improve. Perhaps they're waiting on something bigger....they could still revisit the Beasley offer though.

andgar923
03-01-2012, 11:48 AM
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7631141/source-los-angeles-lakers-reject-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-offer-michael-beasley

The Minnesota Timberwolves offered to trade Michael Beasley to the Los Angeles Lakers for a first-round draft pick, but the Lakers turned them down, according to a league source. Since there is a dollar-for-dollar penalty for tax-paying teams, taking on Beasley's $6.2 million contract would add another $6.2 million to their tax bill and cost the Lakers an extra $12.4 million.


I DO NOT WANT JIM BUSS ANY MORE

Good for them, I would never take Beasley.

liquidrage
03-01-2012, 12:19 PM
How would a ball-stopping F help them? Beasley isn't what they need. They need a freaking PG. Putting Beasley on their second unit would be a disaster as he heaved time and time again anytime he got the ball.
The dude sucks and isn't worth a 1st Rnd pick.


Yeah a .440% shooting big man avg's 12 a game who can't defend and rebound and chucks is worth a 1st Rnd pick. The guy is lucky he was the 2nd overall pick, otherwise he'd be in the d league by now.

RRR3
03-01-2012, 12:22 PM
How would a ball-stopping F help them? Beasley isn't what they need. They need a freaking PG. Putting Beasley on their second unit would be a disaster as he heaved time and time again anytime he got the ball.
The dude sucks and isn't worth a 1st Rnd pick.


Yeah a .440% shooting big man avg's 12 a game who can't defend and rebound and chucks is worth a 1st Rnd pick. The guy is lucky he was the 2nd overall pick, otherwise he'd be in the d league by now.
Beasley can definitely rebound WTF you talking about. He's not a beast rebounder or anything, but if he's playing the 3, he's definitely above average in that regard/ He's been injured and hasn't played as much this year, and yeah, he certainly has his issues, but you're underrating the **** out of him. He's not a bad player. He averaged 19/6/2 in only 32 minutes a game last season. For his career, he averages 20/7/2 per 36 minutes.

Droid101
03-01-2012, 12:33 PM
How would a ball-stopping F help them? Beasley isn't what they need. They need a freaking PG.
No. The Lakers need a PG and a SF.

Our starting PG is shooting 25% from three.

Our starting SF is shooting 20% from three.

The Lakers improve MASSIVELY if they upgrade one or both of those positions, period.

liquidrage
03-01-2012, 12:52 PM
Beasley can definitely rebound WTF you talking about. He's not a beast rebounder or anything, but if he's playing the 3, he's definitely above average in that regard/ He's been injured and hasn't played as much this year, and yeah, he certainly has his issues, but you're underrating the **** out of him. He's not a bad player. He averaged 19/6/2 in only 32 minutes a game last season. For his career, he averages 20/7/2 per 36 minutes.


He is a bad player. He was allowed to chuck. The league is full of guys that can score 19 a game when given minutes and the freedom to shoot a lot. He averaged 7 makes on 17 shots a game last year.

He was like the 80th ranked forward last year in PER. And he can't defend. There's a reason he's falling out of the MINNESOTA rotation and they want to move him while they're competing for a playoff spot.

liquidrage
03-01-2012, 12:55 PM
No. The Lakers need a PG and a SF.

Our starting PG is shooting 25% from three.

Our starting SF is shooting 20% from three.

The Lakers improve MASSIVELY if they upgrade one or both of those positions, period.

You have 3 scorers in the starting lineup already. Starting Beasley would add another defensive liability and he aint getting touches. Without touches what impact does he have except bad defense? When on Earth is he going to get touches over Kobe or Paul and Bynum?

The only impact Beasley would have is coming off the bench to add scoring to the second unit. And that's not worth a 1st round pick, especially when you combine blah shooting, flow stopping, no defense to that.