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chairman
03-04-2012, 03:56 PM
It's clear Lin isn't good against defensive minded point guards. He is just a turnover machine. Start davis and bring Lin out with the bench. Lin isn't taking a team anywhere in the playoffs. Thank god they have Carmelo

stallionaire
03-04-2012, 03:56 PM
Lin needs to get less minutes. I agree.

mattvNJ
03-04-2012, 03:57 PM
i dont agree, kids still young. I mean maybe limit his minutes a little more. but the team generally plays better, more motivated with Lin running the point from the start. although baron is completely capable. Lin gets more comfortable, gets starter type stamina and mind set and he's gold for that team

Meticode
03-04-2012, 03:57 PM
Overreact, then underreact

chairman
03-04-2012, 03:58 PM
Lin needs to get less minutes. I agree.
It's funny cause most of the Knicks posters were acting like Davis was gonna save them before Lin emerged. Then Lin breaks out and all Knicks fans call Baron trash and will be injured all season :facepalm Lin won't win you games in the playoffs

millwad
03-04-2012, 04:13 PM
I think the Knicks should still give Lin his minutes, at least for now. His biggest problem seems to be that he rushes the game often and that he never does anything with his left hand.

IamRAMBO24
03-04-2012, 04:15 PM
Bench winning. Start losing.

Draz
03-04-2012, 04:16 PM
Overreact, then underreact

:roll:

IamRAMBO24
03-04-2012, 04:17 PM
It's clear Lin isn't good against defensive minded point guards. He is just a turnover machine. Start davis and bring Lin out with the bench. Lin isn't taking a team anywhere in the playoffs. Thank god they have Carmelo

Obvious you don't know sh*t about basketball. Come back with the same argument when Baron plays 1 on 5.

Teanett
03-04-2012, 04:17 PM
bullshit

Haymaker
03-04-2012, 04:24 PM
Bench Lin now? :D :D :D

HylianNightmare
03-04-2012, 04:25 PM
lin is still super young, needs time to get used to NBA defenses,but diddy did look solid

305Baller
03-04-2012, 04:26 PM
http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/dis%20gon%20be%20good/preview/dis%20gon%20be%20good.jpg

Sarcastic
03-04-2012, 04:26 PM
Landry Fields is a much weaker link in the starting 5 than Jeremy Lin. Putting Smith or Shumpert in the starting lineup would give the Knicks a better secondary dribbler too.

chairman
03-04-2012, 04:26 PM
Bench Lin now? :D :D :D
No where in my post did I say he couldn't play the 4th quarter. All I said was to limit his minutes cause he sucks. Just cause made open shots doesn't mean shit. He is the reason the Knicks were down with his scumbag turnovers

mattvNJ
03-04-2012, 04:32 PM
No where in my post did I say he couldn't play the 4th quarter. All I said was to limit his minutes cause he sucks. Just cause made open shots doesn't mean shit. He is the reason the Knicks were down with his scumbag turnovers
you do know baron and lin have the same amount of turnovers as of now.... baron has a few more ast's but less points. quit overreacting. kids only gonna get better

chairman
03-04-2012, 04:33 PM
you do know baron and lin have the same amount of turnovers as of now.... baron has a few more ast's but less points. quit overreacting. kids only gonna get better
U mad?

mattvNJ
03-04-2012, 04:33 PM
U mad?
at what? you overreacting haha, I'm not even a knicks fan. u mad?

LamarOdom
03-04-2012, 04:35 PM
i dont agree, kids still young. I mean maybe limit his minutes a little more. but the team generally plays better, more motivated with Lin running the point from the start. although baron is completely capable. Lin gets more comfortable, gets starter type stamina and mind set and he's gold for that team

Tonight -7 with Lin on the floor and +10 with Davis on the floor.

mattvNJ
03-04-2012, 04:36 PM
Tonight -7 with Lin on the floor and +10 with Davis on the floor.
touche, haha I'm just saying exaggeration threads are getting old. They should limit his minutes, let baron mentor him a little and they got them selves a great project in the making.

chairman
03-04-2012, 04:38 PM
touche, haha I'm just saying exaggeration threads are getting old. They should limit his minutes, let baron mentor him a little and they got them selves a great project in the making.
How is it an exaggeration thread? Do you really believe Lin plays good against defensive minded pg? :facepalm Stupid kid

LamarOdom
03-04-2012, 04:42 PM
touche, haha I'm just saying exaggeration threads are getting old. They should limit his minutes, let baron mentor him a little and they got them selves a great project in the making.

I do agree with you but Baron should start and Lin should play less minutes. In the summer he should train on his ball handling and maybe he could develop to a average PG maybe little better but he will never compete with the best.

mattvNJ
03-04-2012, 04:47 PM
How is it an exaggeration thread? Do you really believe Lin plays good against defensive minded pg? :facepalm Stupid kid

I don't believe he plays well and i also agreed with you on the minutes being limited... and kid? hahah some one disagrees with your "flawless" basketball knowledge and they're a kid. Your a joke and Lamarodom, i totally agree, he needs some training he's expected to do to much for his skill set at this point in his career. Some training and getting more comfortable without all that pressure will do him wonders.

ralph_i_el
03-04-2012, 04:47 PM
lin is still super young, needs time to get used to NBA defenses,but diddy did look solid

23 isn't super young.
a bunch of players are already finishing their rookie contract at that age

DStebb716
03-04-2012, 04:55 PM
Overreact, then underreact

This.

chairman
03-04-2012, 04:56 PM
stupid knicks:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
they won't do shit in the playoffs

bluechox2
03-04-2012, 05:01 PM
linsanity is ineffective vs defensive minded teams

Rekindled
03-04-2012, 05:02 PM
you guys realize that davis can only play at max 20 minutes a game right ?

chairman
03-04-2012, 05:03 PM
linsanity is ineffective vs defensive minded teams
which is why they won't get past the first round:cheers:

Poodle
03-04-2012, 05:04 PM
it sux they're so stacked at SG, or they could run double PG with Lin and Baron....

blablabla
03-04-2012, 05:05 PM
linsanity is ineffective vs defensive minded teams
reminds me off pokemon
linsanity is not very effictive

MeLO MvP 15
03-04-2012, 05:11 PM
Baron deserves like 18 minutes and Lin should be at like 30. Lin should remain the starter unless he really does poorly and Baron does well. Very simple. But Baron hasn't done enough this year to earn the starting spot over Lin (who has done a lot more).

Yanch856
03-04-2012, 05:13 PM
I get the feeling even if you put Davis in the starting position the Knicks first unit would still stink. The second unit is playing much much better.

Whoah10115
03-04-2012, 05:13 PM
Close account. Pee on own face.

chairman
03-04-2012, 05:13 PM
Baron deserves like 18 minutes and Lin should be at like 30. Lin should remain the starter unless he really does poorly and Baron does well. Very simple. But Baron hasn't done enough this year to earn the starting spot over Lin (who has done a lot more).
Lin can't even play D:facepalm IMO give Lin 22 Min and 8 Min to Shumpert

Real Men Wear Green
03-04-2012, 05:20 PM
Lin should be given a shot at SG. He's a good scorer but not a pg-level ballhandler. He's undoubtedly a spark and needs to be out there but the turnovers can potentially kill you. Let him just focus on scoring.

Dbrog
03-04-2012, 05:22 PM
23 isn't super young.
a bunch of players are already finishing their rookie contract at that age

:oldlol:

niko
03-04-2012, 05:24 PM
IF this made sense (which it doesn't) for performance reasons, let me point out Baron said he can play 10-15 minutes at most on average, and said it's "possible" he can get it up to 25 minutes by Season's End. He also implied he might never be able to play that many minutes again because of his back.

So no ,he's not starting unless the NBA shortens the game.

Note: For your own teams, when you have young players in their 20th or so start, do you decide after a bad game that they will never play again? Or is this just how the Knicks should behave?

DMV2
03-04-2012, 05:24 PM
Lin should be given a shot at SG. He's a good scorer but not a pg-level ballhandler. He's undoubtedly a spark and needs to be out there but the turnovers can potentially kill you. Let him just focus on scoring.
Lin is basically a shooting PG trying to be a facilitating PG. I think from high school to Harvard was more of a scorer than a "true PG."

chocolatethunder
03-04-2012, 05:28 PM
It's clear Lin isn't good against defensive minded point guards. He is just a turnover machine. Start davis and bring Lin out with the bench. Lin isn't taking a team anywhere in the playoffs. Thank god they have Carmelo
Yes of course. Baron Davis had the same amount of turnovers in less minutes.

Go Getter
03-04-2012, 05:29 PM
Lin is the best PG on the team. At this point in his career B. Davis turns the ball over as much as Lin and doesn't have his old explosiveness to compensate for it.

chairman
03-04-2012, 05:40 PM
Yes of course. Baron Davis had the same amount of turnovers in less minutes.
He hasn't played in a while he actually has legit excuse. He was injured Smh :facepalm

ballashotcalla
03-04-2012, 05:42 PM
Hard call to make.

They both have good games and bad games at the same time.

Whoah10115
03-04-2012, 06:09 PM
IF this made sense (which it doesn't) for performance reasons, let me point out Baron said he can play 10-15 minutes at most on average, and said it's "possible" he can get it up to 25 minutes by Season's End. He also implied he might never be able to play that many minutes again because of his back.

So no ,he's not starting unless the NBA shortens the game.

Note: For your own teams, when you have young players in their 20th or so start, do you decide after a bad game that they will never play again? Or is this just how the Knicks should behave?



The Knicks whenever we have hyped players.



Play Shumpert 8min a game. Sensible suggestion. Very.

niko
03-04-2012, 06:26 PM
The Knicks whenever we have hyped players.



Play Shumpert 8min a game. Sensible suggestion. Very.
NOt at PG, no it's not. He played PG earlier this year. He was beyond awful and it carried over to the otehr facets of his game. He's played ten times better since PG was taken away.

WATCH GAMES. THEN COMMENT. BE SENSIBLE>

chocolatethunder
03-04-2012, 06:45 PM
He hasn't played in a while he actually has legit excuse. He was injured Smh :facepalm
I'm no Lin fan but he has the same excuse. He came out of nowhere and now he's getting heavy minutes. You're acting like he's some seasoned vet who's been stinking it up. How many games has this guy started? Really. He's not the second coming but at this point who has more potential him or Davis? Jesus, if this kid was black you'd be making excuses for him. Give it a rest and relax. For the record I don't even like Lin.

chairman
03-10-2012, 06:04 AM
Davis with 9pts 9ast 5reb 2stl 1to :applause:

Teanett
03-10-2012, 07:10 AM
Davis with 9pts 9ast 5reb 2stl 1to :applause:
are you serious?
he had nothing left in the end even though he hardly played any defense.

chairman
03-10-2012, 07:29 AM
are you serious?
he had nothing left in the end even though he hardly played any defense.
Obviously you limit his minutes dumb kid :facepalm Smh

Teanett
03-10-2012, 07:33 AM
Obviously you limit his minutes dumb kid :facepalm Smh
so he would be 6/5/2 in 18 minutes.
i can live with that.

BlueCrayon
03-10-2012, 10:16 AM
How did Lin and Baron playing at the same time work out yesterday?

bballbball
03-10-2012, 10:26 AM
How did Lin and Baron playing at the same time work out yesterday?

It worked out real good as they were to overcome the double digit deficit with both on the court making big plays. Baron had to be taken out at the end though as he was gassed.

Godzuki
03-10-2012, 11:39 AM
Lin was awesome last night...and he played stellar defense. best defense i've seen him play. all his 3's were almost all swishhhhhh...just pretty :pimp:

Baron played well too, flashes of his old self, big problem with him is if he can't get a layup, he sux offensively. Barons got a horrible jumper.

sux that Shumpert didn't play more since he deserves more run than he got. he hasn't done anything that i've seen to lose playing time even tho DAntoni said his focus wasn't there...but after 5 minutes? :rolleyes:

Knicks should've won it, i don't know how they lost tbh.

Teanett
03-10-2012, 11:42 AM
It worked out real good as they were to overcome the double digit deficit with both on the court making big plays. Baron had to be taken out at the end though as he was gassed.
i would have went with jr smith in the 4th four a little while. baron was gassed when it mattered.

also, although they were on the floor together for a long time, lin was +14 and baron -2. that's how bad the knicks were with lin on the bench.

swi7ch
03-10-2012, 11:51 AM
Lin isn't the problem. It's Melo and Amare. How about bench Melo and Amare and start Shumpert and Novak???

strifed169
03-10-2012, 01:40 PM
Other PGs are torching Lin because you have 2 of the worst defending forwards in the league who constanty miss rotations and leave Lin on an island whenever he gets screened, he actually plays excellent 1on1 defense and is 1 of the better defending PGs in the league imo, he just needs better backup.

swi7ch
03-10-2012, 03:33 PM
Other PGs are torching Lin because you have 2 of the worst defending forwards in the league who constanty miss rotations and leave Lin on an island whenever he gets screened, he actually plays excellent 1on1 defense and is 1 of the better defending PGs in the league imo, he just needs better backup.

This ^^^

Nothing Lin can do when Amar'e lets the opposing PG get to the rim at will to make an easy layup.

Bigsmoke
03-10-2012, 03:34 PM
lol Baron Davis is way too fat to start.

IGOTGAME
03-10-2012, 03:35 PM
This ^^^

Nothing Lin can do when Amar'e lets the opposing PG get to the rim at will to make an easy layup.

exactly...thus Lin can't play bad defense on this team because it is ALWAYS Amare's fault. Lets forget about all the bad rotations and times he get beat 1 v. 1 or when he senselessly runs directly into screens instead of going over or under...

Go Getter
03-10-2012, 03:42 PM
1. No way you bench Lin for Davis. Cmon now.
2. It is Lins job to stop guard penetration, but it is his bigs job to help once they get into the lane. You can blame team d but Lin is also to blame.
3. When the Knicks were winning it was all due to Lin and now they are losing and he gets no blame. That's rather hypocritical.

rodman91
03-10-2012, 03:49 PM
Knicks have 8th spot thanks to Lin. **** that overrated Melo and Amare. They were suppose to be Knicks' answer to The Big Three.

Eat Like A Bosh
03-10-2012, 04:15 PM
And a week later vice versa

chairman
03-13-2012, 04:43 AM
Knicks have 8th spot thanks to Lin. **** that overrated Melo and Amare. They were suppose to be Knicks' answer to The Big Three.
Not anymore :no: 9th seed team