Knicks should trade Carmelo Anthony.

[nathanjizzle]

he refuses to inbound the ball to Lin. He deliberately leaves lin hanging at the end of the first half when lin reaches out to give him dap. He doesnt celebrate lins game winning 3 in toronto. He gives a smug look at allstar break when hes giving an interview and asked about jeremy lin. Knicks have better chemistry when hes off the floor. He has a small dick. He does not respect lin. He does not have any chemistry with any player on this team, especially stat and Lin. He thinks this team is a joke.



Trade him.

[ballashotcalla]

Marion is getting to his head.

[WhySoInsecure?]

Amare/Melo for Turkoglu/Dwight

[nathanjizzle]

Amare/Melo for Turkoglu/Dwight

fiya

[Whoah10115]

You've made this thread before.

[iDefend5]

Agreed. Melo has clearly made this team worse.

[Chaddai]

This just in, the Knicks have kicked Carmelo back to Denver for Chris Anderson

:D

[Jotaro Durant]

not his fault hes just facing another sf thats better than him:cheers:

[Whoah10115]

^^ I see what you did there. I shall see it no more.




I would do Amare and Melo for LMA and Crash. I've been on that tip for a while. I love both those guys and I think LMA could end up the best PF in the game.



And that Melo play makes me wanna kick him in the face. But if I were to trade him, it wouldn't be a reaction to any of this. I'd use my brain and stuff.

[midatlantic09]

I agree. He's not much of a team player.

[bagelred]

The real problem is we didn't trade enough assets for Melo......if we kicked in Landry Fields, and 2 more 1st rounders, I think Melo would be playing better.


Danilo Gallinari
Wilson Chandler
Ray Felton
Timofey Mozgov
Anthony Randolph
2014 1st Rounder
Two 2nd Rounders
$3 million
Taking on Renaldo Balkman
2015 Switch of Draft Picks
Landry Fields
Toney Douglas
2016 1st rounder
2018 1st rounder

THAT'S what we should have done.

[Scoooter]

The real problem is we didn't trade enough assets for Melo......if we kicked in Landry Fields, and 2 more 1st rounders, I think Melo would be playing better.
:lol

[TheStarting5ive]

The real problem is we didn't trade enough assets for Melo......if we kicked in Landry Fields, and 2 more 1st rounders, I think Melo would be playing better.


Danilo Gallinari
Wilson Chandler
Ray Felton
Timofey Mozgov
Anthony Randolph
2014 1st Rounder
Two 2nd Rounders
$3 million
Taking on Renaldo Balkman
2015 Switch of Draft Picks
Landry Fields
Toney Douglas
2016 1st rounder
2018 1st rounder

THAT'S what we should have done.
:roll:

[Kingwillball]

The Sickening Part is Listening to guys Like Barkley calling Melo the best Scorer in the League even last week he stuck with it.. Charles, Durant is the best Pure scorer in the league along with Kobe. Also Morons like Skip Bayless saying he Much rather have ball in Melo's hands in closing Moments of game than Lebron, Again taking last shot or Not Lebron is Separated himself from Melo more than ever this year as an Overall Player and would rather have Lebron with the ball any day of the week( if only he would take last shot)...

[ClutchOver9000]

The Sickening Part is Listening to guys Like Barkley calling Melo the best Scorer in the League even last week he stuck with it.. Charles, Durant is the best Pure scorer in the league along with Kobe. Also Morons like Skip Bayless saying he Much rather have ball in Melo's hands in closing Moments of game than Lebron, Again taking last shot or Not Lebron is Separated himself from Melo more than ever this year as an Overall Player and would rather have Lebron with the ball any day of the week( if only he would take last shot)...

Well, Chuck is clearly smoking something but I agree with Skip in the 'last shot" thing unless you mean final 5 minutes or something... :confusedshrug:

[IGOTGAME]

I just wish that he played for a coach that actually wanted maximize his talents. Karl didn't, D'Antoni can't. He needs a guy that is gonna run the ball through him at the mid post etc. He made a bad choice coming to NYK because of D'Antoni can't coach.

No reason that the team shouldn't be built around there best players. Doesn't make sense.

[Kingwillball]

Well, Chuck is clearly smoking something but I agree with Skip in the 'last shot" thing unless you mean final 5 minutes or something... :confusedshrug:


No Lebron is So much better Beginning, middle or end of games..

[ClutchOver9000]

No Lebron is So much better Beginning, middle or end of games..

:no:

[lilgodfather1]

The real problem is we didn't trade enough assets for Melo......if we kicked in Landry Fields, and 2 more 1st rounders, I think Melo would be playing better.


Danilo Gallinari
Wilson Chandler
Ray Felton
Timofey Mozgov
Anthony Randolph
2014 1st Rounder
Two 2nd Rounders
$3 million
Taking on Renaldo Balkman
2015 Switch of Draft Picks
Landry Fields
Toney Douglas
2016 1st rounder
2018 1st rounder

THAT'S what we should have done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_cjTjBsysc

Mirrors the Melo trade lol.

[Micku]

The Sickening Part is Listening to guys Like Barkley calling Melo the best Scorer in the League even last week he stuck with it.. Charles, Durant is the best Pure scorer in the league along with Kobe. Also Morons like Skip Bayless saying he Much rather have ball in Melo's hands in closing Moments of game than Lebron, Again taking last shot or Not Lebron is Separated himself from Melo more than ever this year as an Overall Player and would rather have Lebron with the ball any day of the week( if only he would take last shot)...

A bunch of ppl say that. It's probably because he could score in many ways like Kobe. But he isn't the most efficient scorer. And he is struggling so much this year. He is out of the whole best scorer deal. He isn't a better scorer than LBJ, Kobe, Durant or Wade. Westbrook is averaging more points than Melo this season. Kevin Love too.

[Kingwillball]

:no:


Yes..

[qrich]

Ryan Gomes + Caron Butler + Brian Cook for Melo + First :bowdown:

[Sarcastic]

They'll fire the coach before they trade Melo.

[Scoooter]

Melo and Lin for Goran Dragic or Kyle Lowry, Chandler Parsons, Chase Budinger and however many of our draft picks they have.

[tontoz]

Too bad. i don't like the Knicks but Linsanity was fun. I knew once Melo came back it would be over.

[Rekindled]

melo for kobe

[NuggetsFan]

The real problem is we didn't trade enough assets for Melo......if we kicked in Landry Fields, and 2 more 1st rounders, I think Melo would be playing better.


Danilo Gallinari
Wilson Chandler
Ray Felton
Timofey Mozgov
Anthony Randolph
2014 1st Rounder
Two 2nd Rounders
$3 million
Taking on Renaldo Balkman
2015 Switch of Draft Picks
Landry Fields
Toney Douglas
2016 1st rounder
2018 1st rounder

THAT'S what we should have done.

Agreed. You don't win by committee in this league so forget the Landry Fields of the NBA :lol

[hawkfan]

Amare/Melo for Turkoglu/Dwight

This is actually a good deal for both teams.

Turk's skills mesh with Lin, Howard won't have any problems playing the pick and roll with Lin.

Amare and Melo would be the main players in Orlando.

[Nickel06]

melo for kobe

DONE DONE DONE DONE DONE AND DONE!!! Did i say DONE!!!! I carry Melo across the country on my back to make this happen!!!:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Whoah10115]

Unless Nash is the PG, Melo and Amare are not a good combination.

[Xover]

Trade Jeremy Lin to Utah and let his status rise so he won't be left with the burden that is Melo/Knicks who contribute to his decline.

[Sarcastic]

melo for kobe

No thanks. Have you seen Kobe's contract and his age?

[Funnyfuka]

it s obvious that so far he s not worth the trade that happened to get him. He s not mixing with the team, he s a self centered narcistic prima donna and ball hog, always been always will be. All the talent in the wolrd but no heart nor faith in his teammates.

[RazorBaLade]

No thanks. Have you seen Kobe's contract and his age?

Lmao theres no way NY wouldn't do kobe for melo

you are a joker

[Sarcastic]

Lmao theres no way NY wouldn't do kobe for melo

you are a joker

LMAO @ thinking we want his contract.

[mark]

I agree. He's not much of a team player.

Melo is a self centered jerk. He did an interview, downplaying the city of Denver, vs NY City, and talked about how much better his life is in NY. Is this the purpose of getting traded, and moving to a different city? I think that no team in their right mind would want Melo. He does nothing for team chemistry, only KMart defended him publicly, and look at KMarts situation. Pitiful.

[Whoah10115]

LMAO @ thinking we want his contract.



We as in You.



This is too unrealistic to discuss, but how would you not take Kobe Bryant? On basketball terms? His contract is two years long. And, at worst, he's better than Melo now. That makes no sense.



...just like the idea, because the Lakers are not trading Kobe Bryant.

[tpols]

LMAO @ thinking we want his contract.
You guys only have 2-3 years to realistically compete for a title. Amare and Tyson are getting older and they are your backbone. Melo and Lin aren't winning shit. You trade for Kobe and he gives you that 2-3 years of great basketball.. the Knicks would be locks to make the ECF this year and next and they would have a great shot at beating the Heat one year. Kobe has been 10x better than Melo this year.

[mark]

We as in You.



This is too unrealistic to discuss, but how would you not take Kobe Bryant? On basketball terms? His contract is two years long. And, at worst, he's better than Melo now. That makes no sense.



Just like the idea, because the Lakers are not trading Kobe Bryant.

Will bet money that the Lakers would LOVE to move him instead of having to pay him 30 million plus per season coming up.

[Pra]

Just messed around in on the trade machine, not a serious trade, but I have no doubt that the nets would take melo they need ticket sales of course!


Net's could try to get Devin Harris back! Fill their point guard hole ya dig? :D
Call up Minnesota... and Utah! Send Ridnour to Utah and Harris to Jersey and Minne get's a 2nd round pick & Deshawnstevenson?

:roll: :roll:



http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6ljfx6v

[Whoah10115]

Will bet money that the Lakers would LOVE to move him instead of having to pay him 30 million plus per season coming up.



Maybe with the new Buss.

[mark]

Maybe with the new Buss.


That'd be insane, your right! there is already drama between those two, but then again who in the world would take Kobe and 30 mil per year though? Would be crazy......

[Eric Cartman]

Kobe will not play for another team in his NBA career other than the Lakers. Stop it with the hypothetical crap.

[Pra]

Amensty MWP....

Make an offer to Wilson Chandler maybe? (or is that too late... not following him)

Trade for Beasley, Amenesty Luke or MWP and try to sign Nash, when he becomes a free agent.

[mark]

Amensty MWP....

Make an offer to Wilson Chandler maybe? (or is that too late... not following him)

Trade for Beasley, Amenesty Luke or MWP and try to sign Nash, when he becomes a free agent.

Nash would be phenomenal with Kobe and Bynum, and then the trade bait would be Gasol.

[Pra]

Nash would be phenomenal with Kobe and Bynum, and then the trade bait would be Gasol.

Indeed, I posted this in the wrong thread though.

I'd love to see a Nash / Bynum pick and roll fosho!

[Dictator]

he refuses to inbound the ball to Lin. He deliberately leaves lin hanging at the end of the first half when lin reaches out to give him dap. He doesnt celebrate lins game winning 3 in toronto. He gives a smug look at allstar break when hes giving an interview and asked about jeremy lin. Knicks have better chemistry when hes off the floor. He has a small dick. He does not respect lin. He does not have any chemistry with any player on this team, especially stat and Lin. He thinks this team is a joke.



Trade him.

:oldlol:

[mark]

:oldlol:


Melo is a true hater. He hates anyone that gathers any sort of attention, other than himself. I am glad that coach Karl talked about him publicly. And KMart needs to develop his skills further in China.

[mark]

Indeed, I posted this in the wrong thread though.

I'd love to see a Nash / Bynum pick and roll fosho!

That'd be phenomenal, I bet that they could do even better if they could get rid of Metta somehow, the main benefit that comes along with getting rid of Metta is financial.

[Pra]

That'd be phenomenal, I bet that they could do even better if they could get rid of Metta somehow, the main benefit that comes along with getting rid of Metta is financial.


Yea, I bet Bynum could put up great #'s although I doubt Kobe will allow himself to be a 2nd option.

[mark]

Yea, I bet Bynum could put up great #'s although I doubt Kobe will allow himself to be a 2nd option.

That is exactly the hindrance to D Howard going to LA, putting up with Kobe and his rules. I think Buss needs to step in to save the team. Nash would be phenomenal, but Kobe's ego probably would never allow it to happen.

[Pra]

That is exactly the hindrance to D Howard going to LA, putting up with Kobe and his rules. I think Buss needs to step in to save the team. Nash would be phenomenal, but Kobe's ego probably would never allow it to happen.

:cheers:

Agreed. Kobe has 2 season's left on his contract after this season. If the Lakers don't succeed this season I could see him open to change. I know he wants ring #6 lol.

[mark]

:cheers:

Agreed. Kobe has 2 season's left on his contract after this season. If the Lakers don't succeed this season I could see him open to change. I know he wants ring #6 lol.

I hope that they can move him. I dont think that they have the guts to, esp watching Magic Johnson ride his nuts nightly on television. Kobe equals hindrance to winning. Any smart team knows that. He hindered Bynum's production and productivity. Playing while you are hurt hurts the team.

[Pushxx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_cjTjBsysc

Mirrors the Melo trade lol.

Hahahaha that video was hilaaaaarious

[Pra]

I hope that they can move him. I dont think that they have the guts to, esp watching Magic Johnson ride his nuts nightly on television. Kobe equals hindrance to winning. Any smart team knows that. He hindered Bynum's production and productivity. Playing while you are hurt hurts the team.

Would be impossible w/ the trade veto, and I could never see that happening in LA unless he force's a trade, which at his age the organization would consider letting him go maybe...

It's funny as as a person who isn't a lakers fan... the best games to watch are

NYK
LAL
MIA

[mark]

Would be impossible w/ the trade veto, and I could never see that happening in LA unless he force's a trade, which at his age the organization would consider letting him go maybe...

It's funny as as a person who isn't a lakers fan... the best games to watch are

NYK
LAL
MIA

It'd be crazy if the Lakers could get rid of Kobe. I think that it would change the Lakers completely, great players would flood the gates, starting with D Howard. Lakers CANNOT POSSIBLY be happy about D Howard not wanting to go to LA because of Kobe. Kobe will never force the organization to trade him, he made this clear on an interview. He knows his trade value is down, and Lakers cannot get much for him in return.

[LABean]

The most sense I've seen a Bulls fan make. :applause:
They should do it soon. Trade value is going down each day.

[Draz]

how old is turk?

[Haymaker]

I just wish that he played for a coach that actually wanted maximize his talents. Karl didn't, D'Antoni can't. He needs a guy that is gonna run the ball through him at the mid post etc. He made a bad choice coming to NYK because of D'Antoni can't coach.

No reason that the team shouldn't be built around there best players. Doesn't make sense.

Melo went to NY thinking he was going to play with CP3, his buddy.Now he's stuck with Stat and a mediocre coach. He ain't a bad player, he's just not in the right system.

[Clutch]

When a 2nd unit that consists of a guy who couldn't even move a month ago (Baron Davis),a chucker who can't hit his shots anymore (J.R.Smith),a rookie (Iman Shumpert),a guy who can only shoot three pointers (Steve Novak) and Jared freaking Jeffries every night outplays your 1st unit with two so called "superstars" then you have a problem.

[SacJB Shady]

When a 2nd unit that consists of a guy who couldn't even move a month ago (Baron Davis),a chucker who can't hit his shots anymore (J.R.Smith),a rookie (Iman Shumpert),a guy who can only shoot three pointers (Steve Novak) and Jared freaking Jeffries every night outplays your 1st unit with two so called "superstars" then you have a problem.



Trade Carmelo for Battier. Would work for both teams.

[drizzy0503]

Trade Carmelo for Battier. Would work for both teams.

aw hell naw

[SacJB Shady]

Baron, Staudaumire, for Gasol. would work for both NY and LA. Knicks gain a little rebounding, LA gains a better guard.


Baron Davis
Kobe Bryant
Matt Barnes/ Ron Artest
Amare Stoudemire
Andrew Bynum

Jeremy Lin
Laundry Fields
Carmelo Anthony
Pau Gasol
Tyson Chandler

[knickswin]

I just wish that he played for a coach that actually wanted maximize his talents. Karl didn't, D'Antoni can't. He needs a guy that is gonna run the ball through him at the mid post etc. He made a bad choice coming to NYK because of D'Antoni can't coach.

No reason that the team shouldn't be built around there best players. Doesn't make sense.

yes, a lot of knicks fans have pointed this out, and it's a valid point that I don't think a lot of people consider when they bash Carmelo.

stoudemire is an interesting case. D'Antoni made Stoudemire. Stoudemire has no back to the basket game, and cannot function well in the half court. The only role he has really thrived in is the D'Antoni center where he gets to play with four shooters and play a lot of pick and roll. To be honest, until tonight I forgot how dynamic that version of Stoudemire is. Tonight was the first night Amar'e looked like a real star all season. he got to play center with harrellson and novak and was just a completely different player. was crafty and finished strong in the paint. effectively isolated from the left elbow. oddly enough, he is even a better defender at center than power forward.

Melo is not a D'Antoni guy. He would best be served on a half court team where he got the ball in the post and had the offense at least partially run around his post game. even this season, he still does extremely well in post-up situations.

a lot of players on the knicks don't play well together. amar'e doesn't play well with tyson. landry doesn't play well with melo. melo tends to be marginalized when playing with lin. to me the easiest solution is to just not have these guys play together too much. knicks run 11 deep. this is a huge advantage and should be utilized. amar'e can see 30+ minutes a game and have very few of them be with Tyson and none of them be with both carmelo and tyson.

I am starting to doubt whether D'Antoni is the coach for this team. coaches like popovich or carlisle would be much better fits. they know how to use rotations better and how to cater an offense around a half court star.

[SacJB Shady]

Carmelo would do well maybe in San Antonio. Maybe they should go for Jefferson, since he wouldn't ball hog it as much...

Spurs would add some one on one offense to their team

Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
Carmelo Anthony
Tim Duncan
Dejuan Blaire

[wagexslave]

Nash to NYK for Jeremy Lin and cash/throw-ins/picks to make it work salary wise.

Nash instantly makes NYK a much better team and serious contenders, having experience winning many games under D'Antoni and destroying teams with the Nash+Amare pick and roll. This shows they're ready to try to make a playoff push and win a championship ASAP.

Lin+Picks gives Phoenix a good young PG and draft picks to help start the rebuilding process.

[Shepseskaf]

Melo is not a D'Antoni guy. He would best be served on a half court team where he got the ball in the post and had the offense at least partially run around his post game. even this season, he still does extremely well in post-up situations.

I am starting to doubt whether D'Antoni is the coach for this team. coaches like popovich or carlisle would be much better fits. they know how to use rotations better and how to cater an offense around a half court star.
I knew that Pringles was wrong for the Knicks before he signed his contract. What took you so long to figure out that a coach who doesn't think that defense is important, can't guide a team to contend for championships?

Not only that, but Pringles is a petty tyrant who doesn't have the communication skills to bring out the best in his players. He knows the game, yes, but can he teach it effectively? I say no.

As far as Melo goes, talent can only take you so far. I'm moving more and more to the point of view that says he's a self-centered cancer. If he was producing at a high level, then his personality flaws can be forgiven. But for what he's giving the Knicks now, for all they're paying him, he should be humbling himself to do whatever the team needs to win.

Of course, that's never going to happen. I predict that its going to get ugly in Gotham very soon. Melo will be blamed, and I really can't see how that's wrong. His attitude sucks, and is helping to bring down the team.

All knowledgeable fans understood that Lin didn't have the ability to carry a team on his back for very long. But that incredible spark he brought could definitely have been extended and used as a benefit by a coach who knew what he was doing.

Pringles needs to go, and I'd recommend looking to see what the team can get for Melo.

[Nash]

Trade him and Chandler for Dwight and Turk. I've been saying that for a long time now.

Lin
JR/Fields
Turko
Amare
Dwight

[bagelred]

Nash to NYK for Jeremy Lin and cash/throw-ins/picks to make it work salary wise.

Nash instantly makes NYK a much better team and serious contenders, having experience winning many games under D'Antoni and destroying teams with the Nash+Amare pick and roll. This shows they're ready to try to make a playoff push and win a championship ASAP.

Lin+Picks gives Phoenix a good young PG and draft picks to help start the rebuilding process.

:roll: Like the Knicks would ever do that. Trading for a guy 15 years older than the guy we have. Nice.

[creepingdeath]

http://nsa20.casimages.com/img/2010/11/08/101108093053175662.gif
Every Melo thread should include this gif.

[BoNafidde]

Trade him and Amare for Lebron and Wade.

[swi7ch]

This is Lin's team now and Melo has no place in it.

[guy]

Paul Pierce for Carmelo Anthony? Pierce is arguably having a better season and IMO is probably a better fit with Amare and Lin.

[dunksby]

http://nsa20.casimages.com/img/2010/11/08/101108093053175662.gif
Every Melo thread should include this gif.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[guy]

Baron, Staudaumire, for Gasol. would work for both NY and LA. Knicks gain a little rebounding, LA gains a better guard.


Baron Davis
Kobe Bryant
Matt Barnes/ Ron Artest
Amare Stoudemire
Andrew Bynum

Jeremy Lin
Laundry Fields
Carmelo Anthony
Pau Gasol
Tyson Chandler

Thats actually not bad.

[dunksby]

The only team who can use Melo's services is Charlotte.

[Bigsmoke]

shiiiiit

u better hold on to Melo.

[wagexslave]

:roll: Like the Knicks would ever do that. Trading for a guy 15 years older than the guy we have. Nice.
lol You really overvalue Lin. Nash is a 2x MVP future HOFer who could turn the Knicks into an instant championship contender and make everyone on the team, especially Amare and Carmelo(the 2 most important pieces) better. Lin is an undrafted unproven kid who's has a couple of good games and gained some hype and playtime due to his story. He could continue to be good, or he could be just another flash in the pan and fade away as soon as he appeared.

Either way he's just not on the same level as Nash. Nash is both one of the best passers and shooters of all time. We'll have to wait to see 20 years from now if anyone even remembers who Jeremy Lin is.

Declining a trade like this shows me that the Knicks and Knicks fans aren't serious about being contenders right now. I don't see how this doesn't make them a better team.

[Optimus Prime]

So people are finally realizing what I have been saying for years now. Melo is a ballhog chucker who plays no D and actually makes his teams worse.

[Nick Young]

Pau Gasol for Carmelo Anthony OMFG:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Sarcastic]

So people are finally realizing what I have been saying for years now. Melo is a ballhog chucker who plays no D and actually makes his teams worse.

He's shooting fewer shots than he has in the last 4 years.

Well, there goes your theory.

[niko]

lol You really overvalue Lin. Nash is a 2x MVP future HOFer who could turn the Knicks into an instant championship contender and make everyone on the team, especially Amare and Carmelo(the 2 most important pieces) better. Lin is an undrafted unproven kid who's has a couple of good games and gained some hype and playtime due to his story. He could continue to be good, or he could be just another flash in the pan and fade away as soon as he appeared.

Either way he's just not on the same level as Nash. Nash is both one of the best passers and shooters of all time. We'll have to wait to see 20 years from now if anyone even remembers who Jeremy Lin is.

Declining a trade like this shows me that the Knicks and Knicks fans aren't serious about being contenders right now. I don't see how this doesn't make them a better team.

We aren't ready to win right now even with Nash. Plus we don't know if MDA is our coach longterm. To trade young players for Nash at this point, where hs is old enough that you don't even know if you get a good year out of him much less multiple years is not a move i want to make.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Umm you cant really blame Melo for Lin's recent struggling, Baron Davis is playing well and has been stealing his minutes anyway.

[Nick Young]

Umm you cant really blame Melo for Lin's recent struggling, Baron Davis is playing well and has been stealing his minutes anyway.
Lin is the cause of Melo's struggles, 6TO a game low percentage chucker:facepalm

[Optimus Prime]

He's shooting fewer shots than he has in the last 4 years.

Well, there goes your theory.

How is the Melo trade working out for you? How is it working out for Denver?

Well, there goes your theory. Keep on believing that Melo is a premier scorer and an elite superstar.

Ballhog chucker that makes his team worse. Facts do not lie. Poor Knicks fans are delusional at this point. They had a great thing going then Melo came back and messed it all up by just being Melo.

[Sarcastic]

How is the Melo trade working out for you? How is it working out for Denver?

Well, there goes your theory. Keep on believing that Melo is a premier scorer and an elite superstar.

Ballhog chucker that makes his team worse. Facts do not lie. Poor Knicks fans are delusional at this point. They had a great thing going then Melo came back and messed it all up by just being Melo.

I merely disproved your factually incorrect statement.

And Denver is trending down, and likely won't make the playoffs.

[Optimus Prime]

I merely disproved your factually incorrect statement.

And Denver is trending down, and likely won't make the playoffs.

Don't stop...BELIEVIN'..!

PS my statement was factually correct you are just a Melo fan in denial.

[Sarcastic]

Don't stop...BELIEVIN'..!

PS my statement was factually correct you are just a Melo fan in denial.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01.html

Averaging 18.2 FGA this year. Hasn't been that low since 2004-5. The Knicks aren't losing because Melo is chucking. They just have a bad coach.

[Optimus Prime]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01.html

Averaging 18.2 FGA this year. Hasn't been that low since 2004-5. The Knicks aren't losing because Melo is chucking. They just have a bad coach.

There it is. The true mark of a blind Melo fan.

"All coach's fault"

Same old story same old song and dance.

[wagexslave]

We aren't ready to win right now even with Nash. Plus we don't know if MDA is our coach longterm. To trade young players for Nash at this point, where hs is old enough that you don't even know if you get a good year out of him much less multiple years is not a move i want to make.

I'm not a Knicks fan, but I honestly believe you guys might actually be ready to win right now though if Nash could help to actually get the BEST out of Amare and Melo, instead of the worst(which is what you guys are dealing with right now). Am I the only one that sees this? The Knicks have the talent to win, they're just underperforming and need that true leader/playmaker to get the best out of them.

Nash to Amare was one of the deadliest combos in the league. To revive that would be huge. And since so many teams get caught up double teaming it, it consistently draws defenders away to frees up guys like Melo to get a lot more wide open shots. That could be huge for the Knicks.

I could see Nash going for 3-4 more years for sure, especially if he has a chance to win. And even more so if it's with the Knicks, supposedly he loves the city of New York and goes there every offseason, so it would be a perfect fit. And to top it off his game doesn't really rely on athleticism and youth, he's almost purely skill-based passing, shooting, and leadership, so he wont really regress all too much.

I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see how he's not the perfect fit for the Knicks.

[Sarcastic]

There it is. The true mark of a blind Melo fan.

"All coach's fault"

Same old story same old song and dance.

You trying to say the coach doesn't matter?

[kurple]

I'm starting to feel sorry for Melo..

I admit that I wanted him to "suffer" after leaving Denver. But I actually want him to succeed now. But not with the Knicks, some (most) of their fans deserve to suffer forever

[Scoooter]

Nash to NYK for Jeremy Lin and cash/throw-ins/picks to make it work salary wise.

Nash instantly makes NYK a much better team and serious contenders, having experience winning many games under D'Antoni and destroying teams with the Nash+Amare pick and roll. This shows they're ready to try to make a playoff push and win a championship ASAP.

Lin+Picks gives Phoenix a good young PG and draft picks to help start the rebuilding process.


:roll: Like the Knicks would ever do that. Trading for a guy 15 years older than the guy we have. Nice.
I would do that in a heartbeat. Nash is still Nash. I would also trade for Goran Dragic. He played with Nash and I really like his game.

I doubt the Knicks would ever go for it though. Dolan isn't trading his surprise cash cow.

[niko]

I'm starting to feel sorry for Melo..

I admit that I wanted him to "suffer" after leaving Denver. But I actually want him to succeed now. But not with the Knicks, some (most) of their fans deserve to suffer forever
Denver fans have been obnoxious as **** since the trade. They comment on everything the knicks do. We get a backup PG and they have a comment. Should i hope you all "suffer forever"? Because i kind of think that sounds retarded.

[Scoooter]

You trying to say the coach doesn't matter?
Last year under the same coach he averaged 24 points a game on 46/42/87. Melo's game is on Melo. He's getting his chances.

[kurple]

Denver fans have been obnoxious as **** since the trade. They comment on everything the knicks do. We get a backup PG and they have a comment. Should i hope you all "suffer forever"? Because i kind of think that sounds retarded.
Thats because every time the Knicks do anything ISH explodes with Knicks morons

I did the same thing with Clippersstan86 when he overrated his team like crazy without thinking rationally. And the Knicks DO have more of these morons than any other team, and I just didnt think the Knicks would be THAT good.

you're not even one of those that annoy me, because you actually think and reflect before you post

and suffer forever wasnt 100% serious ofc

[kurple]

And we cant forget the way Knicks fans acted during the Melo trade rumors. They deserve all the burn they get

[niko]

And we cant forget the way Knicks fans acted during the Melo trade rumors. They deserve all the burn they get
they acted the way the net fans are acting now, and anyone acts when they expect a player to come their way. The only difference is there are less Nugget fans, if you had the same large fanbase, you'd be more annoying, because sheer numbers dictate you'd have more trolls. Net fans take any thought that Dwight Howard is not theres as a personal insult that shows you are a moron. It's just there are 10 net fans and 5 bazillion knick fans.

Watch, if the nuggets get good and are an upper echelon team, there will be you, and then there will be the new nugget fans who troll, make stupid statements, and call other teams names. And everyone will say "Damn obnoxious nugget fans".

[Sarcastic]

And we cant forget the way Knicks fans acted during the Melo trade rumors. They deserve all the burn they get

I think we were much more obnoxious towards Nets fans during last year, as we kept insisting that Melo would not sign with NJ.

You're just still butthurt that your player did not want to play in Denver anymore.

[kurple]

they acted the way the net fans are acting now, and anyone acts when they expect a player to come their way. The only difference is there are less Nugget fans, if you had the same large fanbase, you'd be more annoying, because sheer numbers dictate you'd have more trolls. Net fans take any thought that Dwight Howard is not theres as a personal insult that shows you are a moron. It's just there are 10 net fans and 5 bazillion knick fans.

Watch, if the nuggets get good and are an upper echelon team, there will be you, and then there will be the new nugget fans who troll, make stupid statements, and call other teams names. And everyone will say "Damn obnoxious nugget fans".
that is all true..

[kurple]

You're just still butthurt that your player did not want to play in Denver anymore.
thank you for proving my point

[Sarcastic]

thank you for proving my point

And thank you for proving mine.

[kurple]

weak

[Scoooter]

Everybody love everybody. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0spFY1I2NQ&feature=related)

[hawkfan]

Can't wait until Sunday when the Knicks return to the Garden to play the Sexers.

Can't wait to hear the Garden crowd go off on Marsh-Melo.

[bagelred]

lol You really overvalue Lin. Nash is a 2x MVP future HOFer who could turn the Knicks into an instant championship contender and make everyone on the team, especially Amare and Carmelo(the 2 most important pieces) better.

I don't overvalue Lin. I value him. He's a good player, with potential to be a very good and possibly great player who's just starting out in his career and who's also a fan favorite and fun to watch. He's only going to get better.

Nash isn't a "2X MVP". He's 37 year old Steve Nash who still is a great player but getting older by the day. How many years does he have left? 2?

Hey, if we got Nash "for free" in free agency, I'm all for it. But for Lin? :oldlol: uh, no.........

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Melo and Chandler
for
Bynum, Metta, Devin Ebanks, Josh McRoberts, picks

[knickswin]

I'm not a Knicks fan, but I honestly believe you guys might actually be ready to win right now though if Nash could help to actually get the BEST out of Amare and Melo, instead of the worst(which is what you guys are dealing with right now). Am I the only one that sees this? The Knicks have the talent to win, they're just underperforming and need that true leader/playmaker to get the best out of them.

Nash to Amare was one of the deadliest combos in the league. To revive that would be huge. And since so many teams get caught up double teaming it, it consistently draws defenders away to frees up guys like Melo to get a lot more wide open shots. That could be huge for the Knicks.

I could see Nash going for 3-4 more years for sure, especially if he has a chance to win. And even more so if it's with the Knicks, supposedly he loves the city of New York and goes there every offseason, so it would be a perfect fit. And to top it off his game doesn't really rely on athleticism and youth, he's almost purely skill-based passing, shooting, and leadership, so he wont really regress all too much.

I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see how he's not the perfect fit for the Knicks.

I think Nash would be a considerable improvement over Lin . . . Lin is really struggling with traps now. He won't even attempt to thread the needle, so instead every trap just involves him backing up and spending more of the shot clock dribbling around. Nash is the master at threading the needle. he's much better at playing pick and roll with amar'e than Lin. they're both horrible defenders, so that aspect's more or less a wash.

[ballashotcalla]

I think Nash would be a considerable improvement over Lin . . . Lin is really struggling with traps now. He won't even attempt to thread the needle, so instead every trap just involves him backing up and spending more of the shot clock dribbling around. Nash is the master at threading the needle. he's much better at playing pick and roll with amar'e than Lin. they're both horrible defenders, so that aspect's more or less a wash.

In fairness to Lin, this is the gameplan. Their PnR are set really high. Draw the double team, dribble out to half court to draw defenders away from the hoop and pass to the wings for a quick 4 on 3 before the rotations happen.

He's gotta be quicker on the pass and Melo's gotta come out further to receive the pass.

[kNIOKAS]

So the Knicks get a player and everyone's buzzing how awesome the player is, and how much of a good team Knicks just got. Year or half a year later, everybody's talking how Knicks should get rid of that certain player and how much of a culprit he is.
Been on since early 2000's.

[knickswin]

In fairness to Lin, this is the gameplan. Their PnR are set really high. Draw the double team, dribble out to half court to draw defenders away from the hoop and pass to the wings for a quick 4 on 3 before the rotations happen.

He's gotta be quicker on the pass and Melo's gotta come out further to receive the pass.

yeah, but instead of passing to the wing he's been dribbling dribbling dribbling or turning the ball over. really baron davis has been doing a better job lately of using the pick and roll to create for his teammates. baron will actually thread the needle from time to time and he makes quicker decisions to move it to the wing.

this sounds blasphemous, but if baron davis and steve nash were our point guards next year, I wouldn't be too upset.

[NuggetsFan]

Denver fans have been obnoxious as **** since the trade. They comment on everything the knicks do. We get a backup PG and they have a comment. Should i hope you all "suffer forever"? Because i kind of think that sounds retarded.


I merely disproved your factually incorrect statement.

And Denver is trending down, and likely won't make the playoffs.

This is why Niko. Denver's won their last 4 games. 7th seed, half a game behind Dallas, 1 game behind Memphis. Nene\Gallo been out for like a month, Lawson was down before the All-Star break. Yet Denver isn't likely to make the playoffs? Trending down maybe a week ago when everybody was out. I consider 4 wins in a row the opposite tho :oldlol:

I'd get it if it was just Denver fans. Everybody seems to take a run at Knick fans tho, on ISH anyways. Philly fans, Cavs, Miami, Chicago :oldlol: .

[NuggetsFan]

You're just still butthurt that your player did not want to play in Denver anymore.

I'm starting to actually feel sorry for you because starting to realize you just might be really stupid. I'll help you out tho. Probably want to wait until the Knicks are doing better than Denver or Melo's atleast shooting above 40% before you call Denver fans butthurt. Than you might actually have a point. Right now? It just doesn't make sense, there's no logical reason for him to be butthurt.

Not sure if you understand that, since you seem to have that comeback on repeat :lol

[swi7ch]

8-0 without melo
2-4 with melo

says it all

[SacJB Shady]

8-0 without melo
2-4 with melo

says it all


exactly.......... plus all the losing before lin

[niko]

This is why Niko. Denver's won their last 4 games. 7th seed, half a game behind Dallas, 1 game behind Memphis. Nene\Gallo been out for like a month, Lawson was down before the All-Star break. Yet Denver isn't likely to make the playoffs? Trending down maybe a week ago when everybody was out. I consider 4 wins in a row the opposite tho :oldlol:

I'd get it if it was just Denver fans. Everybody seems to take a run at Knick fans tho, on ISH anyways. Philly fans, Cavs, Miami, Chicago :oldlol: .
you said Miami fans, which everyone knows there are none of.

And i don't take it back, if for some reason Denver becomes trendy, you'll get all the bandwagon jumpers who are by definition annoying. And that wouldn't make you a jerk for being a Nugget fan.

When did i say denver is doing bad? I didn't mean that if i did, i meant more if you became the flavor of the month by taking a huge leap up to a top 2 or 3 team. If you think you are already there, i can't help that, unless with medication.

[Human Error]

When a 2nd unit that consists of a guy who couldn't even move a month ago (Baron Davis),a chucker who can't hit his shots anymore (J.R.Smith),a rookie (Iman Shumpert),a guy who can only shoot three pointers (Steve Novak) and Jared freaking Jeffries every night outplays your 1st unit with two so called "superstars" then you have a problem.
This dude thinks Carmelo and Amare are superstars? :oldlol:

Only Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Durant, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Dirk are the only reigning superstars. At this point even Blake Griffin and Kevin Love are ahead of Carmelo and Amare on a race to superstar legitimacy. If you are to include has beens Garnett, Tim Duncan and Nash are superstars as well. Amare and Carmelo are all star caliber players who do not play D. Not superstars.

[NuggetsFan]

you said Miami fans, which everyone knows there are none of.

And i don't take it back, if for some reason Denver becomes trendy, you'll get all the bandwagon jumpers who are by definition annoying. And that wouldn't make you a jerk for being a Nugget fan.

When did i say denver is doing bad? I didn't mean that if i did, i meant more if you became the flavor of the month by taking a huge leap up to a top 2 or 3 team. If you think you are already there, i can't help that, unless with medication.

Denver made the WCF and had Melo, Iverson etc. who had tons of "player" fans. Heck half our ISH fanbase jumped to NY after the trade.

You called Denver fans obnoxious, complaining about us. Knicks fans deserve it. You guy's(not you specifically) have commented on Denver just as much if not more than we have on NY. I got :facepalm by a NY fan when I said I wouldn't trade Lawson for Lin right now. After the trade no matter how shitty your team was it was always Denver's nothing more than average, Knicks are building a contender. Need a reality check.

I never said you did. I used a post in this very thread to show you why Denver fans comment on shit NY related. Sarcastic talking about how Denver isn't likely to make the playoffs, on the downward trend etc. That's why Denver fans pop up. Just like when the trade first happened, Denver never gave Melo enough talent etc.

Knicks fans just suck. Period. It's obviously because there fanbase is so large and if any team was located in NY and had that many fans it'd the exact same. Clearly don't think all Knick fans suck btw, like you seem to be pretty logical. Just so many of the "u mad your team has been better than my team since the trade" lol fans out there.

Sarcastic pretty much sums up any post I make about NY.

[knickswin]

8-0 without melo
2-4 with melo

says it all

except they lost to new orleans without melo . . .

[nathanjizzle]

why is melo even in the league right now.

[Micku]

Melo is having a bad year.

He's doing 21.0 ppg on 40% shooting, and not really playing good defense.

Amare is having a bad year too.

Lin was great during the Linsanity run, but he hasn't been shooting well either since Melo came back and the defense started to scout him. You can tell by watching the games that Lin is still ok, good shot selection and everything, but not executing on his shots.

But the Knicks suck. The bench is better than the starters.

In a way, Melo is stopping Lin from being Linsanity because he isn't as aggressive or creating for himself. But Lin missed a lot of layups and open shots and that's on him.

Melo is missing his shots too. He is missing layups and open shots as well. And Amare can't hold on to the ball. If they ever get back to playing well, then they are dangerous. But it's going to take a while. If time does not work, then they have to make some trades or get rid of the coach or something. They shouldn't suck this bad.

[Undisputed]

Melo is such a joke. Wherever he is, that's where you find the fail. How the hell are the Knicks this damn bad?

[Eat Like A Bosh]

I guess we can make a case now that Lin has a bigger impact on the team than Melo.

[Eric Cartman]

Tony Parker 12-19 on field goals. This is a trend against the Knicks point guard having amazing games. My main issue with them would be defense against opposing point guards.

[Undisputed]

Tony Parker 12-19 on field goals. This is a trend against the Knicks point guard having amazing games. My main issue with them would be defense against opposing point guards.
Yeah, it's no secret Lin gets walked on. It was only a matter of time before "Linsanity(LOL)" got scouted and figured out. Dude was just hot when he came in and teams weren't familiar with his tendencies on both ends of the floor. He better add and polish a lot of things in his game in the off-season, or it's back to the D-League or rotting on the bench in the NBA.

[June1026]

um yea it doesn't help when you have Amare defending pick n roll, parker was lighting even shumpert up tonight.

[ballashotcalla]

Yeah, it's no secret Lin gets walked on. It was only a matter of time before "Linsanity(LOL)" got scouted and figured out. Dude was just hot when he came in and teams weren't familiar with his tendencies on both ends of the floor. He better add and polish a lot of things in his game in the off-season, or it's back to the D-League or rotting on the bench in the NBA.

Do you even watch the Knicks games?

[Micku]

Either Melo or the coach are going after this year if they don't fix it up. It's probably going to be the coach. They have this sort of talent and not being able to win games.

[Celtic_Pride]

he refuses to inbound the ball to Lin. He deliberately leaves lin hanging at the end of the first half when lin reaches out to give him dap. He doesnt celebrate lins game winning 3 in toronto. He gives a smug look at allstar break when hes giving an interview and asked about jeremy lin. Knicks have better chemistry when hes off the floor. He has a small dick. He does not respect lin. He does not have any chemistry with any player on this team, especially stat and Lin. He thinks this team is a joke.



Trade him.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Micku]

Melo was 8-21 today against the ball and with only 21 points. Kind'a inflated because he shot a lot in the end, trying to get them back in it. But the whole Melo isos haven't been working all season. It works a few times, but he is just having a bad year.

Lin didn't do much either in the second half. He should've passed it to Amare more when he was hot. Lin did ok though.

But talk about disappointment with the Knicks. They need a different coach, players need to know their roles, and they might have to trade ppl around.

[PHaYze]

Melo was 8-21 today against the ball and with only 21 points. Kind'a inflated because he shot a lot in the end, trying to get them back in it. But the whole Melo isos haven't been working all season. It works a few times, but he is just having a bad year.

Lin didn't do much either in the second half. He should've passed it to Amare more when he was hot. Lin did ok though.

But talk about disappointment with the Knicks. They need a different coach, players need to know their roles, and they might have to trade ppl around.
First they have to get a coach who knows what he's doing and let him make whatever changes necessary to the roster. Build around Melo and Lin can't go anywhere.

[christian1923]

YO IM FUKKKING SICK OF THIS PIECE OF SHIITTT MARSHMELLOO, HE DOES ABSOLUTLY NOTHING FOR OUR TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF YOURE GONNA HOG THE BALL ATLEAST SCORE 30

DOESNT BOX OUT

DOESNT GET ASSIST.

WE ALL KNOW HE DOESNT PLAY DEFENSE VERY HARD.

MAKES NOBODY BETTER

AND WE JUST LOSE WHEN HE IS IN THE LINEUP FOR WHATEVER REASON!

I WOULD TRADE HIM FOR METTA WORLD PEACE. JUST TO GET RID OF MELO.:rant :rant :rant :rant :rant #PISSED :rant :rant :rant

[Micku]

First they have to get a coach who knows what he's doing and let him make whatever changes necessary to the roster. Build around Melo and Lin can't go anywhere.

Lin is going to be a free agent next season I think. Regardless whatever if the Knicks go to the playoffs or not, Lin proved that he is a solid player. He could leave. It could be a lost for the Knicks, but they'll still have Davis.

But yeah, they need to do something. Melo isn't executing and that shouldn't be happening. It is Melo and Amare's team. Amare is doing okish now, but Melo isn't playing up to his standards all year. The Knicks are dying for a break right now.

[TheBigVeto]

They should just trade Melo + Amare for Kobe + Gasol.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

they should trade Amare....but no one will take him.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

They should just trade Melo + Amare for Kobe + Gasol.
:roll:

[LosBulls]

bump

[D-Wade316]

:lol @ OP

[Clutch]

bump
Bulls fans bumping Melo threads.

I thought it was airchibundo :lol