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PullupJay
03-07-2012, 10:43 AM
http://musicfeeds.com.au/culture/watch-what-is-kony-2012/
please watch it and spread the news..
LuppersGB
03-07-2012, 02:42 PM
Learn about the world outside of facebook....
There are far more pressing issues at hand not least stopping corrupt organisations trying to profit from an anti-child slavery campaigns
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 03:36 PM
was just about to post this here....
very great video.
to the poster above :facepalm
simcjt
03-07-2012, 04:36 PM
to the poster above :facepalm
When did you learn about the issue? :facepalm
The country has been in a dictatorship for like 30 years and this problem isn't new. Though donating money to bring awareness to the issue is an amazing gesture that will not stop a dictator who does not give a shit. In order to solve the problem military action from a country is a must.
Read about the organization that you know nothing about besides whatever youtube or status you saw while on facebook during class.
http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/1320/18249/Barry-from-Look-What-I-Did-responds-to-Invisible-Children-Organization.html
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 04:41 PM
When did you learn about the issue? :facepalm
The country has been in a dictatorship for like 30 years and this problem isn't new. Though donating money to bring awareness to the issue is an amazing gesture that will not stop a dictator who does not give a shit. In order to solve the problem military action from a country is a must.
Read about the organization that you know nothing about besides whatever youtube or status you saw while on facebook during class.
http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/1320/18249/Barry-from-Look-What-I-Did-responds-to-Invisible-Children-Organization.html
i've known about the issue since for about 4 years.... the point of the video is to get more people to find out about who kony is. the government won't do anything for the issue unless tons of people complain about it. the video is tryin to get people who never heard of the issue to find out about it.
doesnt matter how people find out about it, whether it be youtube or facebook. the more people that know the better. people like you are just ignorant... you feel higher or better than everyone else because you knew about an issue before them. who cares how long you've known about it as long as you find out.
you, my friends are an ignorant douchebag.
simcjt
03-07-2012, 04:49 PM
i've known about the issue since for about 4 years.... the point of the video is to get more people to find out about who kony is. the government won't do anything for the issue unless tons of people complain about it. the video is tryin to get people who never heard of the issue to find out about it.
doesnt matter how people find out about it, whether it be youtube or facebook. the more people that know the better. people like you are just ignorant... you feel higher or better than everyone else because you knew about an issue before them. who cares how long you've known about it as long as you find out.
you, my friends are an ignorant douchebag.
:oldlol: No i'm someone who realizes its not enough to have 5k likes on facebook because that is not actual support when trying to mobilize.
This type of treatment isn't new in regards to sex slaves and 3rd wave feminist have been fighting for protection of women not just in Africa but thinking globally. To think that our government doesn't know what is going on and will step in when enough people tweet about it is insane.
I said it was a nice gesture to try and raise awareness but they have stated themselves military intervention is needed. Are you willing to enlist to not just serve your country but put yourself in danger for those being taken advantage of abroad?
I don't believe that's the type of support this movement will get and if the push is focused on monetary gain it will go waist side just like Haiti's relief.
linZoMourning
03-07-2012, 05:12 PM
that was a well made video but what about that company that is making it?? I hear they are making profits off of our money and not using it for the campaign shame shame
Stuckey
03-07-2012, 05:12 PM
theres dozens if not hundreds of Konys out there
kill one and another will spring up
Randy
03-07-2012, 05:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/khtOV.jpg
simcjt
03-07-2012, 05:25 PM
that was a well made video but what about that company that is making it?? I hear they are making profits off of our money and not using it for the campaign shame shame
In all fairness it is an awareness group.
Spending money on lobbyist and advertising is the purpose of their goal. I'm pretty sure i've read before that their co-founder or something makes less than 200k so its not like they are living lavishly off the back of contributions.
3mil does not buy you an army that could fight in the Congo and protect the children without clearly circumventing a nations sovereignty.
But i'm an ignorant douchebag so what do i know.
Flagrant 2
03-07-2012, 05:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/khtOV.jpg
:roll: :applause:
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 05:34 PM
In all fairness it is an awareness group.
Spending money on lobbyist and advertising is the purpose of their goal. I'm pretty sure i've read before that their co-founder or something makes less than 200k so its not like they are living lavishly off the back of contributions.
3mil does not buy you an army that could fight in the Congo and protect the children without clearly circumventing a nations sovereignty.
But i'm an ignorant douchebag so what do i know.
invisible childrens goal is to make people realize what is going on... i guess where the easiest place is to get alot of attention... facebook and youtube.
sure, some people are just hearing about it today. thats the point of the video if you even watched it! there aren't trying to raise money to go to war; they are trying to get enough people to recognize the problem so that the government will do something about it.
simcjt
03-07-2012, 05:38 PM
invisible childrens goal is to make people realize what is going on... i guess where the easiest place is to get alot of attention... facebook and youtube.
sure, some people are just hearing about it today. thats the point of the video if you even watched it! there aren't trying to raise money to go to war; they are trying to get enough people to recognize the problem so that the government will do something about it.
That is all I ever stated and mentioned in all 3 post that is the goal they are shooting for.
Because I stated that is not going to solve the problem you proceeded to call me an ignorant douchbag. Do you want people to be aware of the issue or do you want people to be proactive about it and actually step up?
Not once have I contradicted myself and merely stated that this goal will probably fail without military interference from a major power. That will not be influenced in America by tweets and likes the same way universal health care was defeated.
Edit: Did you even read my link above where they state they are for military intervention? That is the only way this gets stopped.
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 05:43 PM
That is all I ever stated and mentioned in all 3 post that is the goal they are shooting for.
Because I stated that is not going to solve the problem you proceeded to call me an ignorant douchbag. Do you want people to be aware of the issue or do you want people to be proactive about it and actually step up?
Not once have I contradicted myself and merely stated that this goal will probably fail without military interference from a major power. That will not be influenced in America by tweets and likes the same way universal health care was defeated.
but the group has been proactive... and they aren't trying to get people to join to army to go fight in uganda. they want donation and they want the government to do something about it. the more people that notice what is happening and complain about it then the more likely our government will do somthing about it.
you comment implied that just because people are just learning about it now on facebook and youtube that they won't help.
simcjt
03-07-2012, 05:46 PM
but the group has been proactive... and they aren't trying to get people to join to army to go fight in uganda. they want donation and they want the government to do something about it. the more people that notice what is happening and complain about it then the more likely our government will do somthing about it.
you comment implied that just because people are just learning about it now on facebook and youtube that they won't help.
The purpose of fundraising is to lobby governments in to making military action worth while.
Do you believe sanctions or limiting food or money donated will solve the issue of kids used for gorilla warfare or sex trafficking? How do you stop someone who has all the resources they could possibly need?
Asking those in charge nicely to stop raping children isn't exactly going to work.
Flagrant 2
03-07-2012, 05:48 PM
The purpose of fundraising is to lobby governments in to making military action worth while.
Do you believe sanctions or limiting food or money donated will solve the issue of kids used for gorilla warfare or sex trafficking? How do you stop someone who has all the resources they could possibly need?
Asking those in charge nicely to stop raping children isn't exactly going to work.
:applause:
yobore
03-07-2012, 05:51 PM
Congratulations to my fellow news hipster simcjt he knew about this before it was cool and now it's just not cool anymore. My advice: if you don't like other people not paying attention to the world, get out of the way when they actually do instead of getting haughty and picky.
It's one thing if they're wrong about something or jump on the first side of a story they hear about but this story is one of those unique ones when there is no other side to this story. Kony doesn't even try to justify himself and recognizes himself as an evil person.
And congress listens to loud people.
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 05:52 PM
The purpose of fundraising is to lobby governments in to making military action worth while.
Do you believe sanctions or limiting food or money donated will solve the issue of kids used for gorilla warfare or sex trafficking? How do you stop someone who has all the resources they could possibly need?
Asking those in charge nicely to stop raping children isn't exactly going to work.
there are trying to ask the guy in charge to nicely stop... there are trying to arrest him.
it won't solve the issue, but money donated will always help...
Flagrant 2
03-07-2012, 05:53 PM
And congress listens to loud people.
:roll:
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 05:53 PM
Congratulations to my fellow news hipster simcjt he knew about this before it was cool and now it's just not cool anymore. My advice: if you don't like other people not paying attention to the world, get out of the way when they actually do instead of getting haughty and picky.
It's one thing if they're wrong about something or jump on the first side of a story they hear about but this story is one of those unique ones when there is no other side to this story. Kony doesn't even try to justify himself and recognizes himself as an evil person.
And congress listens to loud people.
:applause:
fiddy
03-07-2012, 05:53 PM
wtf the world is on the edge of nuke and hes worried about africa
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 05:54 PM
:roll:
Vietnam was essentially stopped because of all the how "loud"people were gettin about apposing it.
Flagrant 2
03-07-2012, 05:56 PM
Vietnam was essentially stopped because of all the how "loud"people were gettin about apposing it.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
I wish real life worked like a movie too, but sometimes it's not so black and white.
BlackWhiteGreen
03-07-2012, 06:08 PM
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/263/931/afa.jpg
BlackWhiteGreen
03-07-2012, 06:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/khtOV.jpg
This is about 6 of my uni friends today. :facepalm
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 06:10 PM
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/263/931/afa.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll:
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 06:16 PM
anyway... i will admit that the video is basically a good way to make us feel better about ourselves without really doing anything.
but the point is just to make kony a household name and to make more people recognize what he does.
millwad
03-07-2012, 06:17 PM
I am still a little suspect when I think about these guys, if anyone saw the first documentary they'll see some fresh american kids with no knowledge about anything at all about Africa and suddenly they became activists..
In the same documentary these geniuses spent time burning ants and stabbing and killing a snake...just for fun while laughing and jumping up and down out of excitement while seeing the soon to become slaughtered snake trying to escape. Didn't really get a great impression..
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 06:20 PM
with that being said....
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/263/980/8d6.jpg
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/263/838/c0f.jpg
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/264/083/db8.jpg
http://t.qkme.me/36hciq.jpg
simcjt
03-07-2012, 06:58 PM
with that being said....
:oldlol: These mother****ers going to call me hipsters and then post this shit after pretending to be hurt by the conflict.
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 06:59 PM
:oldlol: These mother****ers going to call me hipsters and then post this shit after pretending to be hurt by the conflict.
im seriously felt bad about posting those... but i have a sick sense of humor.
Flagrant 2
03-07-2012, 07:00 PM
:oldlol: These mother****ers going to call me hipsters and then post this shit after pretending to be hurt by the conflict.
:lol
simcjt
03-07-2012, 07:03 PM
im seriously felt bad about posting those... but i have a sick sense of humor.
Are you for the U.S. sending in troops to kill him, and the child soldiers he would be using to defend himself or not.
At the end of the day that's the only way to solve the issue. Also, you don't feel bad you are a ****ing hypocrite :oldlol:
Memes is the type of awareness that will come from this. Not the action these women and children need as direct relief.
millwad
03-07-2012, 07:08 PM
Read this and you'll probably change your mind about these white american fgts trying to act like Jesus:
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/post/18890947431/we-got-trouble
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 07:14 PM
Are you for the U.S. sending in troops to kill him, and the child soldiers he would be using to defend himself or not.
At the end of the day that's the only way to solve the issue. Also, you don't feel bad you are a ****ing hypocrite :oldlol:
Memes is the type of awareness that will come from this. Not the action these women and children need as direct relief.
i dont know... osama that bitch.
Mex-Laker
03-07-2012, 07:31 PM
with that being said....
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/263/980/8d6.jpg
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/263/838/c0f.jpg
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/264/083/db8.jpg
http://t.qkme.me/36hciq.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll:
:applause: :applause:
Not even 1:00 in and I can tell that their documentary is nothing more than hipster propaganda trash aimed at call of duty-facebook lovers.
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 08:23 PM
http://t.qkme.me/36ha3q.jpg
Mamba
03-07-2012, 08:28 PM
i've been following the situation closely and decided to actually do something rather than sit behind my desk and do nothing
here are 2 t-shirts i've come up with
they are $35(aud) each including postage and handling and all profits go to the invisible childrens charity
please like on your facebook as this will help exposure guys
thankyou
and fk kony
www.facebook.com/fkkony
No Name
03-07-2012, 08:30 PM
http://t.qkme.me/36ha3q.jpg
:oldlol:
Mamba
03-07-2012, 08:32 PM
Nice, what did you decide to do?
:roll:
all profits go to charity, don't laugh what are you doing u fat american prick sitting behind a desk?
vinsane01
03-07-2012, 08:37 PM
Read this and you'll probably change your mind about these white american fgts trying to act like Jesus:
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/post/18890947431/we-got-trouble
Fully agree with this. Awareness is the best thing to come out of these videos but doing something isnt always better than doing nothing. The Ugandan government is not oblivious to the action of these guerrilla groups. If they want to change something about their country, their collective consciousness and consequent actions would allow them to. Being pressured by outsiders might actually bring about subtle changes but it wont be enough. This particular Guerilla leader is just one man out of thousands who are advocates a similar philosophy. Stopping him and locking him behind bars would no doubt bring justice upon those whom he mistreated. But what of the others? Not to mention their own government and other guerilla factions who mistreats their people but of differing cause.
Sometimes one cant help being a cynic. But the truth is, REAL change would and should only occur from within and from their own people.
And yeah i watched the video yesterday. Manly tears were almost shed.
LBJMVP
03-07-2012, 08:38 PM
im sorry... i just have to post, it's perfect.
http://t.qkme.me/36hk7h.jpg
http://t.qkme.me/36hn3e.jpg
simcjt
03-08-2012, 11:05 AM
bump, no reason to have three of these on ish
Nanners
03-08-2012, 01:18 PM
invisible children has a 2/4 star rating on charity navigator. when you google invisible children, you will see that google autofill will try to add scam or controversy. the charity refuses to open up their books to an audit, but it is suspected that only ~30% of donations actually end up in Uganda. Compare that with something like Unicef where 90% or more of donations make it back out the door. also consider that the three creators of invisible children (the three friends mentioned in the movie) are each making a healthy 100k/year to make videos and design bracelets. invisible children also gives money to the ugandan millitary, and president museveni is no stranger to war crimes himself.
kony is definitely a bad guy, but i dont like this movement. this video in paticular is essentially 30 minute propaganda piece put together by a guy who exploits his own son to evoke an emotional response in the viewer. a lot of the language used in the video is kind of scary too"TODAY KONY, TOMORROW THE WORLD". what the hell is that supposed to mean? they are going to make more youtube videos calling for the execution of other bad guys?
Godzuki
03-08-2012, 01:24 PM
my-girl-Rihanna-getting-involved:applause:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/08/rihanna-joseph-kony-video/#.T1jqyVFXeCk
TMZ has learned ... Rihanna has reached out to the Invisible Children organization and has expressed an interest in creating a video to help raise awareness about an evil S.O.B. named Joseph Kony.
Kony is quickly becoming a household name ... thanks to a viral YouTube video that exposes the Ugandan warlord as the bloodthirsty leader of a child army and child prostitution ring.
In the YouTube video, producers beg for celebrity support to raise awareness and showed a picture of Rihanna, in an effort to get her involved.
TMZ has learned ... Rihanna saw the video and was so moved by the story ... that she called the organization this week and set up a meeting, hoping to create another video to keep the momentum alive.
We're told both sides are hoping to complete the project ASAP.
Stay tuned.
kNIOKAS
03-08-2012, 02:26 PM
Don't know if posted already or you've seen it already, but my boy Skweezy Jibbs just covered it pretty much:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdkI-PoVo64
InspiredLebowski
03-08-2012, 02:29 PM
Don't know if posted already or you've seen it already, but my boy Skweezy Jibbs just covered it pretty much:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdkI-PoVo64 :oldlol: who is this dude?
LBJMVP
03-08-2012, 02:41 PM
Don't know if posted already or you've seen it already, but my boy Skweezy Jibbs just covered it pretty much:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdkI-PoVo64
:applause:
the orginal video was just meant to make people aware of what was happening, and it did work
butt....
i hate to say it... but it is definetely one of those things that after this week you will never hear of again.
RidonKs
03-08-2012, 02:47 PM
Don't know if posted already or you've seen it already, but my boy Skweezy Jibbs just covered it pretty much:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdkI-PoVo64
:roll:
best, or at least funniest, critical article i've read so far (http://africasacountry.com/2012/03/07/phony-2012-risible-children/)
The boy had lost his brother, and as he wept before Jason Russell’s camera, Jason Russell brushed back the loose strands of his magnificent blond coiffure (who will play him in the movie version?) and told the boy in hushed tones: “It’s okay. It’s okay.” Jason Russell promised the boy that he, Jason Russell, would do everything he could, would stop at nothing, would move mountains if need be, just to make sure that everybody in the world would finally come to know the name of Jason Russell.
Wait! Sorry! The name of Joseph Kony. This is all about Joseph Kony after all. Not Jason Russell. Nope, nothing at all to do with him.
It must be because “Kony 2012” is about Joseph Kony and not about Jason Russell that there is so much footage of Jason Russell’s young son, Gavin, worshipping Jason Russell atop trampolines and on beaches and at kitchen tables, and professing his hope that one day he might grow up to be just like Jason Russell.
Obviously! I mean how the hell else do you make a movie about the Lord’s Resistance Army?
And so it was that Jason Russell came to make a film (well, the eleventh version) in which the heroic Jason Russell makes a film in order that everyone in the world should finally know the name of the internationally-renowned, globally notorious, definitely already world-famous warlord, Joseph Kony. It was to be the untold story of a much-chronicled man.
If this challenge were not daunting enough, Jason Russell also took it upon himself finally to convince the world that Kony, the man who had hitherto been merely the very first name on the International Criminal Court’s most wanted list (indicted on 33 counts including war crimes and crimes against humanity seven years ago), should in fact be arrested.
Great Scott! Why didn’t anyone think of that before?
The “Kony 2012” show is here, and the whole thing is a miserable fraud.
InspiredLebowski
03-08-2012, 02:53 PM
I think that Skweezy Jibbs dude is Michael Shannon
Kungfro
03-08-2012, 02:59 PM
:oldlol: who is this dude?
I first saw him was with his reply to the reply girl vids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJHzbXEc2so&list=PLCEE27FBF7BA5E84F&index=2&feature=plcp
tomtucker
03-08-2012, 03:05 PM
all profits go to charity, don't laugh what are you doing u fat american prick sitting behind a desk?
where u from ?
kNIOKAS
03-08-2012, 03:18 PM
:oldlol: who is this dude?
You really don't know him? Posted on ISH few times for sure. Personally I had subbed since like 08 or whatever. He's known for some amazing sketches, but that's off topic. Still, if you want to check out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvNRH6OoDPk\
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew9kX1IjL78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XczUp-nMKM4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChVlmgagwjw
Yet back to point, what Skweezy wanted to say is that just don't take things so simple. We over here have a saying "road to hell is built by good intentions" or something. I see that this movement going one could be starting a new age (just like the anonymous movements, btw) where internet and publicity is used to really change a world. Yet, it sounds like a very untrusty medium to do that. You never know what is and who is behind it, you never know where it's going to lead and what the other side has to say (maybe not in KONY's case though). To me, technically it's just a few differences away from terrorism.
creepingdeath
03-08-2012, 07:51 PM
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/kony-meme-putting-the-infant-back-in-infantry.jpg
These photos made me laugh and then suddenly I felt bad for laughing. :facepalm
creepingdeath
03-08-2012, 08:16 PM
These photos made me laugh and then suddenly I felt bad for laughing. :facepalm
Don't feel bad. Just take a look at these, maybe they will cheer you up:
http://i.imgur.com/gD992.png
Derka
03-08-2012, 08:36 PM
These Invisible Children folks are more or less a group of scam artists. And the people spamming this endlessly on Facebook, Twitter and every single internet forum they can get themselves registered on are helping these shitheads make money for no good reason at all.
Joseph Kony's a bad guy, no doubt about it. But the sad truth is he's absolutely no worse than any other ethnic and/or tribal leader in that region. Child soldiers have been fighting in tribal and ethnic conflicts in sub-Saharan Africa for centuries now. The NRM, current controlling party of what passes as a government in Uganda, used child soldiers and committed widespread war crimes including mass rape and summary civilian executions in order to take power away from the Obote regime. There isn't a single clean set of hands in the region and there never will be...these people were fighting wars centuries before white people showed up and started pretending to feel sorry for them.
Sending money to a bunch of idiots are essentially keeping all of it for themselves is about the stupidest thing you can do. You're not making a difference. You're not helping to "spread awareness."
Meticode
03-08-2012, 10:52 PM
I'm not sure about Invisible Children, but those kids shouldn't live a life like that. It makes me sad to see all the conveniences I have and I take them from granted.
Cowboy Thunder
03-08-2012, 11:51 PM
Don't know if posted already or you've seen it already, but my boy Skweezy Jibbs just covered it pretty much:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdkI-PoVo64
haha isn't that guy off of OT
Riddler
03-09-2012, 12:18 AM
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread817164/pg1
ONE IMAGE to sum up Kony
:oldlol:
SCREWstonRockets
03-09-2012, 12:46 AM
These Invisible Children folks are more or less a group of scam artists. And the people spamming this endlessly on Facebook, Twitter and every single internet forum they can get themselves registered on are helping these shitheads make money for no good reason at all.
Joseph Kony's a bad guy, no doubt about it. But the sad truth is he's absolutely no worse than any other ethnic and/or tribal leader in that region. Child soldiers have been fighting in tribal and ethnic conflicts in sub-Saharan Africa for centuries now. The NRM, current controlling party of what passes as a government in Uganda, used child soldiers and committed widespread war crimes including mass rape and summary civilian executions in order to take power away from the Obote regime. There isn't a single clean set of hands in the region and there never will be...these people were fighting wars centuries before white people showed up and started pretending to feel sorry for them.
Sending money to a bunch of idiots are essentially keeping all of it for themselves is about the stupidest thing you can do. You're not making a difference. You're not helping to "spread awareness."
The fact that millions know more about Kony now than they did last week, means the video served it's purpose. Looking at the bigger picture, it shows the power of social networking with the younger crowd. That could be harnessed into something far greater. All most young people do is worship celebrities so if something like this gets them more aware of more important issues in the world, what's the problem?
Obviously, sharing a video isn't going to save Uganda. But the response from everyone, from negative to positive, is very telling. That video gave a reality check to many Americans that don't realize how good we have it here. If that's all this video does, then a 30 min video was worth it.
talkingconch
03-09-2012, 01:01 AM
with that being said....
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/263/980/8d6.jpg
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/263/838/c0f.jpg
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/264/083/db8.jpg
http://t.qkme.me/36hciq.jpg
the last 3 are sorta sad
Have you ever stepped outside?
Go Getter
03-09-2012, 03:19 AM
invisible children has a 2/4 star rating on charity navigator. when you google invisible children, you will see that google autofill will try to add scam or controversy. the charity refuses to open up their books to an audit, but it is suspected that only ~30% of donations actually end up in Uganda. Compare that with something like Unicef where 90% or more of donations make it back out the door. also consider that the three creators of invisible children (the three friends mentioned in the movie) are each making a healthy 100k/year to make videos and design bracelets. invisible children also gives money to the ugandan millitary, and president museveni is no stranger to war crimes himself.
kony is definitely a bad guy, but i dont like this movement. this video in paticular is essentially 30 minute propaganda piece put together by a guy who exploits his own son to evoke an emotional response in the viewer. a lot of the language used in the video is kind of scary too"TODAY KONY, TOMORROW THE WORLD". what the hell is that supposed to mean? they are going to make more youtube videos calling for the execution of other bad guys?
I'm stealing this.
DonDadda59
03-09-2012, 03:24 AM
Let's all grease our legs up, put on our skinny jeans and head down to occupy Kony. I'll bring the bongo drum and we can all sit in a circle and sing kumbaya. That'll show that old meanie Kony, and it should kill some time before the new Ipad hits the stores :cheers:
Meticode
03-09-2012, 03:31 AM
The negativity in this thread saddens me.
Legend of Josh
03-09-2012, 03:31 AM
invisible children has a 2/4 star rating on charity navigator. when you google invisible children, you will see that google autofill will try to add scam or controversy. the charity refuses to open up their books to an audit, but it is suspected that only ~30% of donations actually end up in Uganda. Compare that with something like Unicef where 90% or more of donations make it back out the door. also consider that the three creators of invisible children (the three friends mentioned in the movie) are each making a healthy 100k/year to make videos and design bracelets. invisible children also gives money to the ugandan millitary, and president museveni is no stranger to war crimes himself.
kony is definitely a bad guy, but i dont like this movement. this video in paticular is essentially 30 minute propaganda piece put together by a guy who exploits his own son to evoke an emotional response in the viewer. a lot of the language used in the video is kind of scary too"TODAY KONY, TOMORROW THE WORLD". what the hell is that supposed to mean? they are going to make more youtube videos calling for the execution of other bad guys?
I don't think much of you as a poster. At times you come off as a one-sided close-minded POS as if you actually you know a thing or two, but you are spot-on in what you said there.
Do I think the creator of the video (cant recall his name) actually cares about Kony being caught/captured and put out of business - sure, I have no problem saying that. I'm sure to some degree he does actually care, but it just seems like dude is more about this being "hey look what * I * did" making it more about himself, and not the actual children.
Also yes, I'm sure one of the major objectives behind all this is getting paid.
Nanners
03-09-2012, 03:45 AM
I don't think much of you as a poster. At times you come off as a one-sided close-minded POS as if you actually you know a thing or two, but you are spot-on in what you said there.
Do I think the creator of the video (cant recall his name) actually cares about Kony being caught/captured and put out of business - sure, I have no problem saying that. I'm sure to some degree he does actually care, but it just seems like dude is more about this being "hey look what * I * did" making it more about himself, and not the actual children.
Also yes, I'm sure one of the major objectives behind all this is getting paid.
Cool story bro. I dont think much of you as a poster either. I would probably put you in the same category with idiots and trolls like Nick Young, Bladers, Starface... etc.
I'm stealing this.
go for it.
DonDadda59
03-09-2012, 03:50 AM
I don't think much of you as a poster. At times you come off as a one-sided close-minded POS as if you actually you know a thing or two, but you are spot-on in what you said there.
Do I think the creator of the video (cant recall his name) actually cares about Kony being caught/captured and put out of business - sure, I have no problem saying that. I'm sure to some degree he does actually care, but it just seems like dude is more about this being "hey look what * I * did" making it more about himself, and not the actual children.
Also yes, I'm sure one of the major objectives behind all this is getting paid.
Just saw a Piers Morgan interview with the guys who actually made the video and the above bolded couldn't be any truer. One of them went on air wearing a 'Kony 2012' t-shirt (that he'll probably make available for $19.95 plus shipping and handling). And when Morgan brought up the fact that only about 30% of the organization's not-for-profit profits go to charities/causes/etc, t-shirt douchebag said that the movie cost so much because it had to be 'awesome and powerful' and that's why so much of their funds went towards making it :facepalm
Nothing but self-promotion and self-aggrandizement by the self righteous smug hipster social media fairies. I bet they just picked Kony's name out of a hat, guy's not a unique phenomena in the world, so why is he getting so much press? A 30 minute youtube video isn't going to do shit about anything, just a way for the skinny jean crowd to feel like they're doing something other than reposting or liking the vid on facebook or twitter.
They'll lose interest as soon as the new Ipad hits stores...
InspiredLebowski
03-09-2012, 03:58 AM
Yahoo has an interview (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/interviewing-invisible-children-ceo-kony-2012-film-goes-224212065.html) with the guys behind it. Haven't watched it because I just don't really care all that much, but figured I'd pass it along.
bdreason
03-09-2012, 04:09 AM
I'm more interested in the successfulness of this 'movement' than actually arresting Kony. The Internet, and social networking is changing the world, and the people in power can't be too happy about it.
I honestly think that the internet and social networking could eventually lead to pandemic chaos. Those in power, all across the world, have used isolation and an 'iron fist' to rule the people. Now, these people are being exposed to the reality of how other people live all across the globe, and are also able to communicate their injustices.
bdreason
03-09-2012, 04:14 AM
I'd be the first to call someone out for just trying to get paid, but I don't see it here. This guy and his cause are legit, and he's making shit happen. I'm sure he also making a lot of money, but so what? At least he's making money doing something positive. The CEO of Phillip Morris probably clears 20 million a year, and all he does is help kill 5 million people every year, well.
DonDadda59
03-09-2012, 04:20 AM
I'm more interested in the successfulness of this 'movement' than actually arresting Kony. The Internet, and social networking is changing the world, and the people in power can't be too happy about it.
Eh, the people in power (in America at least) know they have nothing to fear really. Americans' attentions spans aren't strong enough to follow through on anything. Whatever happened to the Occupy 'Enter City/Area Here' movement? Seems like a bunch of hipsters got together to smoke weed in tents and play bongos, and then nothing really came of it. Did they 'end corporate greed' like they set out to do?
We won't see anything even remotely resembling the Arab Spring here. The new season of Jersey Shore is coming out soon and we're on the verge of crowning a new American Idol.
I honestly think that the internet and social networking could eventually lead to pandemic chaos. Those in power, all across the world, have used isolation and an 'iron fist' to rule the people. Now, these people are being exposed to the reality of how other people all across the globe, and are also able to communicate their injustices.
Revolutions predate social networking. Hashtags on twitter and likes on facebook won't change the cyclic nature of society. There are despots, tyrants, people living in poverty, social unrest and occasional upheaval just as there always has been. Social networking might shine more of a light on them now than in the past, but I doubt it'll lead to 'pandemic chaos'.
kNIOKAS
03-09-2012, 04:28 AM
Revolutions predate social networking. Hashtags on twitter and likes on facebook won't change the cyclic nature of society. There are despots, tyrants, people living in poverty, social unrest and occasional upheaval just as there always has been. Social networking might shine more of a light on them now than in the past, but I doubt it'll lead to 'pandemic chaos'.
Thing is the moves anonymous are making are no different from a lynch mod. Just so many times bigger. If properly manipulated, it could lead to some real messed up shit.
DonDadda59
03-09-2012, 04:41 AM
I'd be the first to call someone out for just trying to get paid, but I don't see it here. This guy and his cause are legit, and he's making shit happen. I'm sure he also making a lot of money, but so what? At least he's making money doing something positive. The CEO of Phillip Morris probably clears 20 million a year, and all he does is help kill 5 million people every year, well.
The CEO of Phillip Morris doesn't make believe he's something he's not though. The makers of the vid/heads of Invisible Children are on record that only 1/3 of people's donations will go towards helping the youth of Uganda (If you even believe that). 1/3 will go towards 'the movement', whatever that means. The last 1/3 will go towards film production, ie they will pocket that cash and make more 30 min vids on your dime. So basically they spend 2x as much on t-shirts and digital cameras as they do on actually helping children financially. Kind of odd for a not-for-profit organization, no?
It's a nice money-making scheme, and the skinny jean crowd is eating out of their hands, as usual.
OhNoTimNoSho
03-09-2012, 10:18 AM
Shit like this is why everyone thinks America is a bunch of head-up-ass dumbassess.. Most people here have a great amount of resources and power and could do anything.. and all anyone ever does is some stupid ass shit thats poorly thought through. Country made up of morons run by morons.
Go Getter
03-09-2012, 12:56 PM
I'd be the first to call someone out for just trying to get paid, but I don't see it here. This guy and his cause are legit, and he's making shit happen. I'm sure he also making a lot of money, but so what? At least he's making money doing something positive. The CEO of Phillip Morris probably clears 20 million a year, and all he does is help kill 5 million people every year, well.
Guy used his son and a little African boy to peddle t-shirts, kits, and bracelets.
Ain't nobody going into to hot ass Africa to find this cat until he messes with American interest$.
millwad
03-09-2012, 02:02 PM
People are so naive, if anyone actually saw the first documentary these guys made, then you'd be skeptical towards these guys already before watching the new one.
So we're supposed to believe that a bunch of american youngsters who never stepped a foot outside of the US suddenly gets an idea to leave for Africa for the sake of the poor africans..:facepalm
In the first film they even spent time burning up ants and chopping a snake into pieces just because they were bored, they jumped up and down of excitement while laughing when the snake tried to get away before it got slaughtered for no reason at all. So from no where they suddenly want to save african kids.. Yeah, right.
And now they want to get Kony, the same Kony who hasn't been active in Uganda for plenty of years and they support the ugandan military who themselves have tortured their own people..
This is a hoax and so is the fact that only 30% of the collected money goes to Uganda and unfortunate kids.. They've made plenty of money on this crap already, time for the media to expose these sucker.
tomtucker
03-09-2012, 02:09 PM
People are so naive, if anyone actually saw the first documentary these guys made, then you'd be skeptical towards these guys already before watching the new one.
So we're supposed to believe that a bunch of american youngsters who never stepped a foot outside of the US suddenly gets an idea to leave for Africa for the sake of the poor africans..:facepalm
In the first film they even spent time burning up ants and chopping a snake into pieces just because they were bored, they jumped up and down of excitement while laughing when the snake tried to get away before it got slaughtered for no reason at all. So from no where they suddenly want to save african kids.. Yeah, right.
And now they want to get Kony, the same Kony who hasn't been active in Uganda for plenty of years and they support the ugandan military who themselves have tortured their own people..
This is a hoax and so is the fact that only 30% of the collected money goes to Uganda and unfortunate kids.. They've made plenty of money on this crap already, time for the media to expose these sucker.
sounds fukked.....:mad: ....and this crap is everywhere.....youtube , newspapers :facepalm
CelticBaller
03-09-2012, 04:28 PM
Save Kony!
LBJMVP
03-09-2012, 04:37 PM
this thread needs to end... if you havent noticed, it's been two days and no one on facebook is talking about it anymore.
kony has been forgotten already.
OhNoTimNoSho
03-09-2012, 04:37 PM
[QUOTE]Invisible Children, Inc., who have been criticized by the Better Business Bureau for refusing to provide necessary information in the Bureau
blablabla
03-09-2012, 07:02 PM
i saw it today this shit was horrible how he explained all this to his son:facepalm
and of course donate some money and you get this box for free:facepalm
Cowboy Thunder
03-09-2012, 07:03 PM
http://www.orangepower.com/attachments/kony-jpg.10415/
Balla_Status
03-09-2012, 07:08 PM
I could really eat a cheese coney right now.
Kobe Jnr
03-10-2012, 04:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFAL3NIxVz4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
tomtucker
03-10-2012, 04:30 AM
no, the millitary has nothing to do with this.............that is bullshit....it
ballerz
03-10-2012, 07:11 AM
this thread needs to end... if you havent noticed, it's been two days and no one on facebook is talking about it anymore.
kony has been forgotten already.
Just because people on facebook aren't posting about kony doesn't mean people have forgotten. Moron
sundizz
03-10-2012, 10:44 AM
Just because people on facebook aren't posting about kony doesn't mean people have forgotten. Moron
Na, it does mean they are forgotten. This new world of activism is nonsense. There is some 'new' story every few days. These situations are resolved by governments not random internet posts that take the attention of the generation now public for a week. Rebecca Black > Kony. Yeah I said it.
LBJMVP
03-10-2012, 02:09 PM
Just because people on facebook aren't posting about kony doesn't mean people have forgotten. Moron
i did some research on the subject after i watched it.... some people are saying kony is dead and hasnt been active in uganda since 2005
Legend of Josh
03-10-2012, 06:06 PM
i did some research on the subject after i watched it.... some people are saying kony is dead and hasnt been active in uganda since 2005
pics or it didn't happen. No really, who really knows? The bottom-line is that this 'movie' that the world is raving about isn't going to jumpstart some US or UN campaign to find and destroy Kony.
It's a means to get paid, and 95% of the world isn't reading between the lines.
LBJMVP
03-10-2012, 11:24 PM
pics or it didn't happen. No really, who really knows? The bottom-line is that this 'movie' that the world is raving about isn't going to jumpstart some US or UN campaign to find and destroy Kony.
It's a means to get paid, and 95% of the world isn't reading between the lines.
http://t.qkme.me/36hdmc.jpg :confusedshrug:
CelticBaller
03-11-2012, 01:09 AM
http://t.qkme.me/36hdmc.jpg :confusedshrug:
Wow i laughed at this
I feel like an asshole
bdreason
03-11-2012, 04:49 AM
It's a means to get paid, and 95% of the world isn't reading between the lines.
So their plan was to hang out in dangerous parts of Africa for years. Develop relationships with the locals, raise money to build homes, and schools.... so that one day they MIGHT get paid selling pins and t-shirts to raise money?
Sounds easy, why don't you head over there and get paid too homie?
iDefend5
03-11-2012, 04:58 AM
I laughed at the memes and I feel bad about it. :(
SevereUpInHere
03-12-2012, 08:42 PM
Check out this list of other wanted figurtes from the ICC.
http://www.news.com.au/world/yeah-kony-but-what-about-all-the-other-bad-guys/story-e6frfkyi-1226297210271
Somehow Dwayne Wade made the list! :oldlol:
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/03/12/1226297/215288-dominic-ongwen.jpg
LBJMVP
03-12-2012, 08:57 PM
Check out this list of other wanted figurtes from the ICC.
http://www.news.com.au/world/yeah-kony-but-what-about-all-the-other-bad-guys/story-e6frfkyi-1226297210271
lmao at that list. most of africa is one f*cked up place.
G-train
03-12-2012, 09:39 PM
When is next USA election? He will be caught a little before that.
"Jesus"
03-12-2012, 09:41 PM
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3293939_460s.jpg
CelticBaller
03-12-2012, 10:07 PM
lmao at that list. most of africa is one f*cked up place.
and AIDS wild animals and deserts don't make it better
Seriously. if ever end up being stranded in the wild side of africa (jungle,desert,ect) I would commit suicide. the place is like a living hell.
ace23
03-12-2012, 11:07 PM
http://t.qkme.me/36hdmc.jpg :confusedshrug:
:roll: :roll: :roll:
That's fcked up, though. Damn.
Hazard
03-13-2012, 01:16 AM
Lets not act like this whole Kony thing is not some bullshit propaganda to hide the administrations ulterior motives.
It's certainly understandable that a campaign against child soldiers and sex trafficking would gain widespread attention. But the Kony 2012 campaign is leaving out a lot of facts that every opponent of violence and injustice needs to know.
Not only does the video dangerously oversimplify the history of Kony and the LRA in Uganda, but it bolsters the position of U.S. imperialism on this question--particularly in its support for the repressive Ugandan government. And this comes at a time when the U.S. military is intervening more aggressively in Africa, including basing troops on the continent.
In October, the Obama administration announced it was sending 100 soldiers to Uganda to act as military "advisers" to Ugandan and African Union forces fighting the LRA. "I have authorized a small number of combat-equipped U.S. forces to deploy to central Africa to provide assistance to regional forces that are working toward the removal of Joseph Kony from the battlefield," Obama wrote in a letter to Congress.
But the administration isn't motivated to extend military help to the Ugandan government out of altruism. U.S. involvement comes in the context of what SocialistWorker.org contributor Lee Wengraf called "a new African land grab"--with Saudi Arabia, Japan, China, India and South Korea, as well as agribusiness and private equity firms from Europe and the U.S., buying up large tracts in a competition for farmland and biofuel sources.
Lets also not forget the fact that Kony and the LRA has not been operating in Uganda since 2006. Funny how the video conveniently left that part out. Oh and one more thing, the fact that the central government that Kony is waging war against has matched if not outdone him with every atrocity he has committed.
Good old USA, always helping out:
In fact, U.S. forces participated in a disastrous operation in 2008 that failed to capture Kony in his base in Congo--but which succeeded in provoking the LRA to launch a ferocious counteroffensive. The rebels abducted an estimated 700 people and killed almost 1,000.
This is just ****ing sad right here:
The Invisible Children video likewise ignores the brutality of the Ugandan military. On the contrary, it is portrayed as "the only force" capable of stopping Kony.
The military's campaign against the LRA has been corrupt, brutal and deadly. In the hunt for Kony, the regime's forces have been accused of looting the Central African Republic and forcing women into prostitution.
The Kony 2012 campaign will not only reinforce this brutality by giving it a "humanitarian" justification, but it serves to strengthen an authoritarian state that last made global headlines for its attempts to pass a law to punish homosexuality with death.
Bottom line:
We might also question the commitment of the U.S. government to ending the use of child soldiers--when it funds the armies of four countries that continue to use them, including Yemen and Congo.
But beyond these questions, it's important to remember that U.S. military interventions never have and never will be carried out for humanitarian motivations. U.S. military involvement in Uganda isn't about concern for ordinary people, but Washington's desire to strengthen its imperial foothold in Africa. The Pentagon's Africa Command is aiming to expand its presence in the region--and in Uganda, where new oil and natural gas reserves have been discovered.
Fun facts:
Despite Invisible Children's claim to speak on behalf of Kony's child soldiers, only one such soldier appears in the video. The only other Ugandans interviewed are politicians--representatives of a U.S.-aligned government that has repressed the Acholi people. In fact, the camera spends more time on the video's white director and his child, and the white activists working with Invisible Children.
Source (http://socialistworker.org/2012/03/12/left-out-of-the-kony-2012-video)
BoogieWoogieMan
03-13-2012, 01:23 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/423539_340847392633376_293713434013439_69532272_18 7227081_n.jpg
Noob Saibot
03-13-2012, 01:42 AM
Lets not act like this whole Kony thing is not some bullshit propaganda to hide the administrations ulterior motives.
Lets also not forget the fact that Kony and the LRA has not been operating in Uganda since 2006. Funny how the video conveniently left that part out. Oh and one more thing, the fact that the central government that Kony is waging war against has matched if not outdone him with every atrocity he has committed.
Good old USA, always helping out:
This is just ****ing sad right here:
Bottom line:
Fun facts:
Source (http://socialistworker.org/2012/03/12/left-out-of-the-kony-2012-video)
^good post. If this doesnt convince people, I dunno what does.
CeltsGarlic
07-26-2012, 01:57 PM
Lol, this died fast.
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