View Full Version : why does stephen a smith hate jeremy lin?
Teanett
03-08-2012, 09:57 AM
roasting the the kid after a game in which his loverboy melo scores SIX points?
Stephen A loves the top level guys, the A Level stars and he reps them to the death. That's always been his deal.
Punpun
03-08-2012, 10:03 AM
Because he had to hate Tebow. That's his job.
SacJB Shady
03-08-2012, 10:04 AM
he likes to go against bayless. i love bayless
heyhey
03-08-2012, 10:04 AM
roasting the the kid after a game in which his loverboy melo scores SIX points?
what show is he on? gotta check out wut SAS is saying
lets be real about something. If lin was black, SAS be preaching and waxing poetics about how great it is a black harvard graduate is doing it in the NBA, smart and ballin. He be talking about what a TRAVESTy it was that he wasn't drafted how it has be rooted in some racism against the intellectual black man
but lin aint black tho
Sarcastic
03-08-2012, 10:05 AM
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7658489
Teanett
03-08-2012, 10:07 AM
Stephen A loves the top level guys, the A Level stars and he reps them to the death. That's always been his deal.
i know, but you can't rip somebody like lin for not being an a-level star if your supposed a-level stars don't show up (melo) or play the worst basketball of their life (amar'e.... AND melo).
Punpun
03-08-2012, 10:08 AM
That's his job. He has to do it. Because that's what he was hired to do.
Teanett
03-08-2012, 10:09 AM
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7658489
listen to that! i'm almost shocked how he disses the kid. isn't he a knicks fan?
SilkkTheShocker
03-08-2012, 10:11 AM
I miss hearing Stephen A. rip Marbury apart. Now that was some funny sh1t
Nick Young
03-08-2012, 10:13 AM
because he's not black.
swi7ch
03-08-2012, 10:13 AM
it's his job
Bigsmoke
03-08-2012, 10:14 AM
he's a critical judger
Teanett
03-08-2012, 10:23 AM
he's a critical judger
he also said amare looked "fantastic".:facepalm
what show is he on? gotta check out wut SAS is saying
lets be real about something. If lin was black, SAS be preaching and waxing poetics about how great it is a black harvard graduate is doing it in the NBA, smart and ballin. He be talking about what a TRAVESTy it was that he wasn't drafted how it has be rooted in some racism against the intellectual black man
but lin aint black tho
Pretty much my sentiments throughout the whole Linsanity mania. From Floyd Mayweather to random haters on this forum to now SAS.
hawkfan
03-08-2012, 10:30 AM
Part of it is racial against Lin, but another part of it is the "Stockholm syndrome".
The Knicks have been bad for so long, for the last decade, and an embarassment and a joke at times that he has gotten used to that being normal. And so his brain can't handle the change to Lin performing well, and the Knicks performing well for that matter.
This is the same guy who destroyed Iman Shumpert, who has turned out to be a very solid NBA player.
AAckley1
03-08-2012, 10:40 AM
It's because ESPN is owned by Disney.
Shepseskaf
03-08-2012, 10:42 AM
I don't like SAS. I think he's a walking minstrel show, but to say that he criticizes based solely on race is idiotic. He has ripped AI, Kwame, and many others relentlessly.
hawkfan
03-08-2012, 10:45 AM
I don't like SAS. I think he's a walking minstrel show, but to say that he criticizes based solely on race is idiotic. He has ripped AI, Kwame, and many others relentlessly.
Ripping Kwame just proves that he is an Uncle Tom.
Ripping Kwame just proves that he is an Uncle Tom.
How does that make any sense at all? You never cease to say stupid shit.
he likes to go against bayless. i love bayless
I hate them both. They're idiots. Shouty idiots. IDK if they believe what they say or the just have their shtick/character that they have to keep to. But I know that I dislike them and can only damage the iq of those who listen to them.
InfiniteBaskets
03-08-2012, 10:55 AM
Smith just saying what he says to get a reaction. I don't think he's being overly criticial because Lin's asian, you never see him ripping Yi Jianlian and Yi's been a huge bust considering he was a lottery pick and he had all this hype surrounding him coming in from China.
Go Getter
03-08-2012, 10:58 AM
what show is he on? gotta check out wut SAS is saying
lets be real about something. If lin was black, SAS be preaching and waxing poetics about how great it is a black harvard graduate is doing it in the NBA, smart and ballin. He be talking about what a TRAVESTy it was that he wasn't drafted how it has be rooted in some racism against the intellectual black man
but lin aint black tho
:oldlol:
You crazy
Go Getter
03-08-2012, 11:00 AM
Part of it is racial against Lin, but another part of it is the "Stockholm syndrome".
The Knicks have been bad for so long, for the last decade, and an embarassment and a joke at times that he has gotten used to that being normal. And so his brain can't handle the change to Lin performing well, and the Knicks performing well for that matter.
This is the same guy who destroyed Iman Shumpert, who has turned out to be a very solid NBA player.
Since when has Lin performed well (7-37 vs the last two good teams)? He had a few good games but his last few were pretty bad. I'd say he's played average to good but saying someone is racist for not liking Lin's game is absurd.
What exactly did he say? I've seen him support Lin during the whole "Linsanity" craze. If he is ripping him? Maybe, maybe its because Lin isnt performing as magnificent as people were screaming earlier? Hard to comment without any quotes, soundbites because I've heard SAS on First Take talk about Lin. Never got the feeling he hated Jeremy Lin. :confusedshrug:
He doesnt care much for Tebow because as a QB he's inaccurate and yet people dont care and believe some divine intervention happens to make everyone play better.
plUto or bUst
03-08-2012, 11:19 AM
Since when has Lin performed well (7-37 vs the last two good teams)? He had a few good games but his last few were pretty bad. I'd say he's played average to good but saying someone is racist for not liking Lin's game is absurd.
I saw a 1-11 (Miami) and a 6-16 (Boston). That's a 7-27. In other words, a typical Kobe shooting night against two really good defensive teams on the road.
plUto or bUst
03-08-2012, 11:23 AM
You should have seen the glee on Stephen A Smith's face when Lin went 1-11 against the Heat. I swear he was about to have an orgasm.
Go Getter
03-08-2012, 11:31 AM
I saw a 1-11 (Miami) and a 6-16 (Boston). That's a 7-27. In other words, a typical Kobe shooting night against two really good defensive teams on the road.
What does Kobe have to do with this conversation? We are talking about Lin.
Go Getter
03-08-2012, 11:31 AM
You should have seen the glee on Stephen A Smith's face when Lin went 1-11 against the Heat. I swear he was about to have an orgasm.
STFU, GTFOH and take your lame sock account with you.:facepalm
Sarcastic
03-08-2012, 11:35 AM
Have you seen how bad the other team's point guards have been doing lately?
Tony Parker 32 points/6 assists
Jason Kidd 15 points/6 assists Season high points for Kidd
Rondo 18/17/20
Kyrie Irving 22/3/7
Teague 18 points
D-Will 38/4/6
Go Getter
03-08-2012, 11:35 AM
Have you seen how bad the other team's point guards have been doing lately?
Tony Parker 32 points/6 assists
Jason Kidd 15 points/6 assists Season high points for Kidd
Rondo 18/17/20
Kyrie Irving 22/3/7
Teague 18 points
D-Will 38/4/6
:lol
And this is from a Knick's fan.
I appreciate you, despite being on the wrong side of the tracks.
SAS is a bigtime NYK fan. Why would he hate Lin who made them relevant again?
Still waiting for some quotes, soundbites and such
Go Getter
03-08-2012, 11:44 AM
SAS is a bigtime NYK fan. Why would he hate Lin who made them relevant again?
Still waiting for some quotes, soundbites and such
There are none. He just stated the truth. He reads the scouting reports and Lin has obvious wholes in his game. He was playing above his head for a few games and he surprised many people put him on too high a pedestal too soon. The new thing I guess is to call a black guy racist for not liking what a non-black person does even though the comments are not racial at all. SAS mentions this in the clip. 98% of the players in the NBA are black and he criticizes black players all the time but because he's "raining on Lin's parade" he's gotta be a bigot.
hawkfan
03-08-2012, 11:46 AM
SAS is a bigtime NYK fan. Why would he hate Lin who made them relevant again?
Because SAS doesn't want the face of the Knicks' franchise to be an Asian.
Pure and simple.
It's Lin's team now and Melo and Amare are the sidekicks.
Melo is declining in athleticism due to being out of shape and just age.
Same thing with Amare.
They still think they have the same athleticism they had when they first entered the league, but that isn't the case now. The wear and tear of years of play have slowed them down.
How about if Melo actually helped Lin run the offense when Lin gets double teamed? Is that too much to ask for a superstar to do, someone getting paid 19 million?
Go Getter
03-08-2012, 11:49 AM
Because SAS doesn't want the face of the Knicks' franchise to be an Asian.
Pure and simple.
It's Lin's team now and Melo and Amare are the sidekicks.
Melo is declining in athleticism due to being out of shape and just age.
Same thing with Amare.
They still think they have the same athleticism they had when they first entered the league, but that isn't the case now. The wear and tear of years of play have slowed them down.
How about if Melo actually helped Lin run the offense when Lin gets double teamed? Is that too much to ask for a superstar to do, someone getting paid 19 million?
Omg:roll:
This post is comically absurd:oldlol:
Melo isn't on top of his game (he was 12-24 last night though) but to say that he needs to (at SF) help Lin when he's trapped is just silly.
hawkfan
03-08-2012, 11:52 AM
Omg:roll:
This post is comically absurd:oldlol:
It's racial jealousy by Carmlo and Amare.
It's pure and simple.
2 for 12 from a future Hall of Famer, which Carmelo is? That's tanking it. Carmelo is way, way too good to have a night like that except his brain wasn't focused.
blablabla
03-08-2012, 11:54 AM
SAS is an idiot he always was
Go Getter
03-08-2012, 11:57 AM
It's racial jealousy by Carmlo and Amare.
It's pure and simple.
2 for 12 from a future Hall of Famer, which Carmelo is? That's tanking it. Carmelo is way, way too good to have a night like that except his brain wasn't focused.
First of all you have no proof whatsoever of what you speak on and you sound dumb as hell. Know that.
Carmelo was cheering his ass off for Lin on the bench. Amare played hard with Lin and was supporting him as well. The whole city of NY was behind Lin it seemed so how is it now that everyone is jealous that an Asian kid is getting some shine?
Tanking it? DO you actually feel like a poor shooting night is tanking it? Did he tank it last night when he went 12-24 in a loss. Matter of fact everyone on the team shot about 50% damn near except Lin and Harrelson.
People just love to pull the racist card on blacks these days. Scourge relativism.
If they were indeed behaving like you described does that make Lin get ripped by Norris Cole and Mario Chalmers in the back court? Does that make Rondo impossible to box out en route to 17-20 boards? Does that make him less effective now than he was in his first 6 or 7 starts (assists way down after the scouting reports and tapes were developed)?
I think not. Seems like you're mad and grasping at straws so you can hold onto this Lin fantasy.
First of all you have no proof whatsoever of what you speak on and you sound dumb as hell. Know that.
Carmelo was cheering his ass off for Lin on the bench. Amare played hard with Lin and was supporting him as well. The whole city of NY was behind Lin it seemed so how is it now that everyone is jealous that an Asian kid is getting some shine?
Tanking it? DO you actually feel like a poor shooting night is tanking it? Did he tank it last night when he went 12-24 in a loss. Matter of fact everyone on the team shot about 50% damn near except Lin and Harrelson.
People just love to pull the racist card on blacks these days. Scourge relativism.
If they were indeed behaving like you described does that make Lin get ripped by Norris Cole and Mario Chalmers in the back court? Does that make Rondo impossible to box out en route to 17-20 boards? Does that make him less effective now than he was in his first 6 or 7 starts (assists way down after the scouting reports and tapes were developed)?
I think not. Seems like you're mad and grasping at straws so you can hold onto this Lin fantasy.
Hawkfan isn't even a lin fan, he makes fun of him subtly. Never mind him.
Steven A is not a Lin hater, not is he racist. He's just overly dramatic when he does not like something. It's why when he hates on your team, your player, etc. it comes across so badly IF you are only listening at that time, but if you listen all the time, you get it.
Go Getter
03-08-2012, 12:14 PM
Hawkfan isn't even a lin fan, he makes fun of him subtly. Never mind him.
Steven A is not a Lin hater, not is he racist. He's just overly dramatic when he does not like something. It's why when he hates on your team, your player, etc. it comes across so badly IF you are only listening at that time, but if you listen all the time, you get it.
It didn't really come off that bad or racist at all to me, he was spot on....Lin is a good player, he played like a mad man for awhile when teams weren't prepared for him, but it's not going to be that easy going forward.
I don't see how that's not logical (but I do think you are right in your assessment).
It didn't really come off that bad or racist at all to me, he was spot on....Lin is a good player, he played like a mad man for awhile when teams weren't prepared for him, but it's not going to be that easy going forward.
I don't see how that's not logical (but I do think you are right in your assessment).
Our coach ****ed Lin up. He made it a priority to lower turnovers over all else. He also has Carmelo scared to look like he is taking too many shots. All this PC crap, Lin plays to not do turnovers first above all else and he is so tentative. And Melo is ridiculously out of rhythm, trying to play in this totally illogical way (Smith was for awhile too, can't look selfish, got to pass up open shots.)
our coach sucks. The offensive master has no gameplan.
305Baller
03-08-2012, 12:29 PM
sas is just a mess of a human being
SpecialQue
03-08-2012, 12:56 PM
I listened to part of it before he goes to phone calls. He said Lin looked "exposed" against Kidd, and that "he's alright, nothing that special." Also that teams reading scouting reports notice "too many turnovers, he can't go left, he can be trapped by two defenders." He also says that Lin has something to prove, that he has to prove legitimacy to Linsanity.
The strangest part though was that he said Carmelo looked bad, but that it's ridiculous to say that he's responsible for how bad the team is. That responsibility lies with "the point guard and the coach."
Smith kinda reminds me of Rush Limbaugh.
SpecialQue
03-08-2012, 12:59 PM
As for the racial thing, it just seems more like Smith is a Melo dickrider and has some absurd expectations for Lin. It didn't seem racial at all, the guy's just an idiot. The weird thing is that, for someone who's paid to talk and know about sports, his ignorance on how unique this situation is is surprising. Unless, of course, he knew he'd get attention for this and did it intentionally, which worked.
All three of them pathetic last night. They didn't get their "star numbers" until late in the 4th quarter after being down 15 or so points. And defensively, they looked like amateurs.
Yet he says Amare looked great? The dude who refuses to put his body in the lane to block off opposing PG's penetrations. Yeah, he was great. :oldlol:
Go Getter
03-08-2012, 01:16 PM
As for the racial thing, it just seems more like Smith is a Melo dickrider and has some absurd expectations for Lin. It didn't seem racial at all, the guy's just an idiot. The weird thing is that, for someone who's paid to talk and know about sports, his ignorance on how unique this situation is is surprising. Unless, of course, he knew he'd get attention for this and did it intentionally, which worked.
SAS said Melo isn't in shape, he needs to step up, and he didn't look like he was in the game and needed to be benched.
How is that dick riding?
How is it unfair to expect Lin to be able to hold his own against tough defense if he is the starting PG?
It shows Lin respect to hold him to the same expectations as every other starting PG. After all the hype surrounding him being undrafted and cut (which has happened to many other ball players) it is on Lin to be proficient in his craft.
SpecialQue
03-08-2012, 01:44 PM
I think one of the things that he's not taking into consideration is that the Knicks were garbage BEFORE Linsanity. Then that happened and they got some impressive wins...now they're back to garbage. The problem is much deeper than just Lin needing to step up.
I listened to part of it before he goes to phone calls. He said Lin looked "exposed" against Kidd, and that "he's alright, nothing that special." Also that teams reading scouting reports notice "too many turnovers, he can't go left, he can be trapped by two defenders." He also says that Lin has something to prove, that he has to prove legitimacy to Linsanity.
The strangest part though was that he said Carmelo looked bad, but that it's ridiculous to say that he's responsible for how bad the team is. That responsibility lies with "the point guard and the coach."
Smith kinda reminds me of Rush Limbaugh.
Before Lin arrived the key to the NYK success was backcourt, most notably PG play (as they went out and signed Baron Davis, Mike Bibby and attempted to force Tony Douglas into a PG). Lets be real, D'Antoni has been criticized and bashed before Lin showed up am I right? PG is an extension of your HC, he is your floor general. The system screams for PG play. And to be fair, Lin hasnt been playing much PG until he reached the NBA and is learning on the job with the NYK.
Responsbility of the NYK team is with HC and PG. If Lin disappeared? That comment doesnt change.
Teanett
03-08-2012, 01:58 PM
he's basically saying the knicks are a mediocre team because their point guard is not on an elite level...:facepalm
he blasts lin for being "just okay", which is a fair statement but fails to point out that an "okay" point guard is a major upgrade over douglas and bibby.
so now, isn't it on melo and amar'e to take them above mediocricy? but he criticses lin for not outplaying d-will, rondo, kidd and parker? when the superstars dont defend for shit? when baron plays even worse?
it's no wonder some people think his agenda seems race-inluenced.
SpecialQue
03-08-2012, 01:59 PM
Before Lin arrived the key to the NYK success was backcourt, most notably PG play (as they went out and signed Baron Davis, Mike Bibby and attempted to force Tony Douglas into a PG). Lets be real, D'Antoni has been criticized and bashed before Lin showed up am I right? PG is an extension of your HC, he is your floor general. The system screams for PG play. And to be fair, Lin hasnt been playing much PG until he reached the NBA and is learning on the job with the NYK.
Responsbility of the NYK team is with HC and PG. If Lin disappeared? That comment doesnt change.
Linsanity was fun, but I think most fans would agree that if Baron's healthy, there's absolutely no reason to even think about starting Lin. What he did was incredible, but right now, for this system, they need a vet running the show.
If that's the point that Smith was getting at, I agree. However, I'd like to think that most fans knew about Lin's weaknesses and were just hoping that he'd somehow keep the team rejuvenated and pull out some new tricks. Since that ain't happening, people need to face up to the reality of the situation.
But there's some deep rot in this Knicks team, and at this point I don't even know who to point the finger at.
ballashotcalla
03-08-2012, 02:06 PM
SAS is not a racist, but he sucks major c#ck of the stars that give him interviews.
Melo gives SAS exclusive interviews, so SAS bends over for Melo and doesn't really blast him ever.
I think one of the things that he's not taking into consideration is that the Knicks were garbage BEFORE Linsanity. Then that happened and they got some impressive wins...now they're back to garbage. The problem is much deeper than just Lin needing to step up.
They were 8-15 before Lin got his minutes. 10-6 since Lin got his minutes.
You can say Lin got most of his wins against scrub teams but the 8-15 teams were getting beat by scrub teams like the Bobcats, Raptors, Bucks, Cavs, etc.
But of course Lin will get all the blame now since he was christened as the new D'Antoni system point guard.
Godzuki
03-08-2012, 02:10 PM
stephenA-is-like-SpikeLee-to-me...both-very-partial-to-black-people-over-other-races-by-and-large.
plUto or bUst
03-08-2012, 02:20 PM
Of course I can't prove it, but I personally think SAS is a racist douchebag, not just because of what he has to say about Lin. He never has anything good to say about any white players either. He may grudgingly admit someone like Nowitzki is a top player though, or else he'll just sound dumb.
Blue&Orange
03-08-2012, 02:24 PM
Linsanity was fun, but I think most fans would agree that if Baron's healthy, there's absolutely no reason to even think about starting Lin. What he did was incredible, but right now, for this system, they need a vet running the show.
Linsanity was way more then just fun, it was epic. And no, Lin should be the starting PG, he is the knicks future PG, Baron is not. But seeing the rotation in final minutes of the spurs game, i'm pretty sure Pringles is clearly thinking about benching Lin.
Linsanity was fun, but I think most fans would agree that if Baron's healthy, there's absolutely no reason to even think about starting Lin. What he did was incredible, but right now, for this system, they need a vet running the show.
If that's the point that Smith was getting at, I agree. However, I'd like to think that most fans knew about Lin's weaknesses and were just hoping that he'd somehow keep the team rejuvenated and pull out some new tricks. Since that ain't happening, people need to face up to the reality of the situation.
But there's some deep rot in this Knicks team, and at this point I don't even know who to point the finger at.
People like to ignore this for reasons i don't understand, but Baron is not physically able to play more than about 15 minutes a game. He said it's possible at most he can raise it to 25 a game by season's end, but not a few games in a row. HE CANNOT START.
BTW, the person who said this was "Baron Davis" so it's not second hand.
Teanett
03-08-2012, 02:38 PM
People like to ignore this for reasons i don't understand, but Baron is not physically able to play more than about 15 minutes a game. He said it's possible at most he can raise it to 25 a game by season's end, but not a few games in a row. HE CANNOT START.
BTW, the person who said this was "Baron Davis" so it's not second hand.
and even if he could play more, he's not playing better than lin.
both have turnovers and rely on who's on the court with them to get assists.
anyways, the point guard position isn't the knicks problem any longer.
plUto or bUst
03-08-2012, 02:39 PM
People like to ignore this for reasons i don't understand, but Baron is not physically able to play more than about 15 minutes a game. He said it's possible at most he can raise it to 25 a game by season's end, but not a few games in a row. HE CANNOT START.
BTW, the person who said this was "Baron Davis" so it's not second hand.
Why can't Davis start and still play around 20 minutes? Lin and Melo doesn't really work so let Davis play the majority of the minutes with Melo and let Lin wheel and deal with the second unit.
SpecialQue
03-08-2012, 02:43 PM
People like to ignore this for reasons i don't understand, but Baron is not physically able to play more than about 15 minutes a game. He said it's possible at most he can raise it to 25 a game by season's end, but not a few games in a row. HE CANNOT START.
BTW, the person who said this was "Baron Davis" so it's not second hand.
I haven't seen that many Knicks games since Baron came back, so I didn't know he was still in that bad of shape. It's really odd how the Knicks are still in this "wait a little bit longer" phase, where first they needed Melo/Amare/Chandler to gel, and now they're waiting for Lin to get more experience and Baron to fully recover.
truhooper
03-08-2012, 02:45 PM
SAS said Melo isn't in shape, he needs to step up, and he didn't look like he was in the game and needed to be benched.
How is that dick riding?
How is it unfair to expect Lin to be able to hold his own against tough defense if he is the starting PG?
It shows Lin respect to hold him to the same expectations as every other starting PG. After all the hype surrounding him being undrafted and cut (which has happened to many other ball players) it is on Lin to be proficient in his craft.
this
Teanett
03-08-2012, 02:46 PM
Why can't Davis start and still play around 20 minutes? Lin and Melo doesn't really work so let Davis play the majority of the minutes with Melo and let Lin wheel and deal with the second unit.
this would be worth trying.
keep the linning unit together but that would mean heavy minutes for chandler,
unless amare plays center with baron like in the dallas game:
starters:
chandler
amare
melo
shump/smith
baron
jeffries or novak 1st off the bench for chandler
2nd unit:
chandler
jeffries/novak
landry
smith/shump
lin
ace23
03-08-2012, 02:47 PM
I miss hearing Stephen A. rip Marbury apart. Now that was some funny sh1t
:oldlol: Whatever happened to his show Quite Frankly?
Linsanity was fun, but I think most fans would agree that if Baron's healthy, there's absolutely no reason to even think about starting Lin. What he did was incredible, but right now, for this system, they need a vet running the show.
If that's the point that Smith was getting at, I agree. However, I'd like to think that most fans knew about Lin's weaknesses and were just hoping that he'd somehow keep the team rejuvenated and pull out some new tricks. Since that ain't happening, people need to face up to the reality of the situation.
But there's some deep rot in this Knicks team, and at this point I don't even know who to point the finger at.
If Baron Davis was healthy, in shape, in the mood to play distributor, in the mood not to jack up lots of awful shots, in the mood to play consistant hard D (not just laze around and gamble on steals) and basically had a time machine to 5 years ago then there would be "absolutely no reason to even think about starting Lin".
Have just read someone posted that Baron isn't in shape, and SQ accepting this, so this rant was irrelevant. Oh well.
P.S. I don't like Baron Davis (I hope you couldn't tell).
Why can't Davis start and still play around 20 minutes? Lin and Melo doesn't really work so let Davis play the majority of the minutes with Melo and let Lin wheel and deal with the second unit.
because it's stupid and creates rotations that make no sense.
wang4three
03-08-2012, 03:20 PM
Stephen A Smith loves to say phrases like, "With all due respect," "he can play," "I love the things he has done," to start out his argument, but the rest of his argument is ripping the player or person. Essentially disregard all of his prefaces. He doesn't mean them. He clearly hates certain players. Jeremy is one of them. Also think he also is ignorant and bullish and his opinions on non-sports topics: religion, politics, and race should NEVER be broadcasted.
plUto or bUst
03-08-2012, 03:33 PM
because it's stupid and creates rotations that make no sense.
Actually it makes perfect sense.
Baron is on his last legs and can't really do anything other than feed Melo and Amare. Let him do that for 9 minutes at the start of the game. Then Lin comes in and creates havoc with the second unit. He'll obviously get a little tired so let Lin close out the second half just feeding the ball to Amare and Melo.
Rinse and repeat in the second half. Lin runs wild at the end of the third and and start of the fourth. Have Amare and Melo come in to close out the game like superstars are supposed to, with Lin feeding them the ball. If Lin looks tired, then Davis can close it out.
Actually it makes perfect sense.
Baron is on his last legs and can't really do anything other than feed Melo and Amare. Let him do that for 9 minutes at the start of the game. Then Lin comes in and creates havoc with the second unit. He'll obviously get a little tired so let Lin close out the second half just feeding the ball to Amare and Melo.
Rinse and repeat in the second half. Lin runs wild at the end of the third and and start of the fourth. Have Amare and Melo come in to close out the game like superstars are supposed to, with Lin feeding them the ball. If Lin looks tired, then Davis can close it out.
Hmm...that's actually very interesting.
ballashotcalla
03-08-2012, 03:38 PM
Actually it makes perfect sense.
Baron is on his last legs and can't really do anything other than feed Melo and Amare. Let him do that for 9 minutes at the start of the game. Then Lin comes in and creates havoc with the second unit. He'll obviously get a little tired so let Lin close out the second half just feeding the ball to Amare and Melo.
Rinse and repeat in the second half. Lin runs wild at the end of the third and and start of the fourth. Have Amare and Melo come in to close out the game like superstars are supposed to, with Lin feeding them the ball. If Lin looks tired, then Davis can close it out.
That's terrible. You're asking Lin to play through 1 and a third straight quarters.
And that puts Baron out of the game. He only plays in 2 quarters and that does not make a slight impact on the game.
plUto or bUst
03-08-2012, 03:48 PM
That's terrible. You're asking Lin to play through 1 and a third straight quarters.
And that puts Baron out of the game. He only plays in 2 quarters and that does not make a slight impact on the game.
Lin is young I think he can handle 15 straight minutes of basketball. :oldlol:
With this scheme Lin still gets around 30 and Davis gets around 18. They also don't have to sit around and get cold. Minutes are minutes, who cares what quarters it happens.
Teanett
03-08-2012, 04:03 PM
for all the effort he made distancing himself from floyd mayweather's comments, this lin-bashing is uncalled for.
Shepseskaf
03-08-2012, 04:36 PM
I don't think SAS hates Lin. His comments about Linsanity have to be taken in the context of the battles he went through with Skip on Tebow. In both cases, a player judged to be of marginal talent was consistently "proving the critics wrong".
SAS had to eat it week after week as Skip taunted him with Tebow's success. I'm guessing that SAS saw in Lin another Tebow, and felt that Miami had finally restored sanity to Linsanity -- something that he probably thought should have happened much sooner with Tebow.
I really don't care if he does or not.
ballashotcalla
03-08-2012, 05:12 PM
Lin is young I think he can handle 15 straight minutes of basketball. :oldlol:
With this scheme Lin still gets around 30 and Davis gets around 18. They also don't have to sit around and get cold. Minutes are minutes, who cares what quarters it happens.
You must not notice when Baron or Lin gets gassed. 15 straight minutes each game in the shortened season is asking a lot.
To make matters worse is that Baron is absent in the 2nd and 4th quarter. You need your starting PG playing at least 30 minutes otherwise whats the point.
Eat Like A Bosh
03-08-2012, 05:15 PM
Because it's his job, he has to hate on somebody.
BlueandGold
03-08-2012, 05:17 PM
Why on earth anyone would take him seriously I have no idea. He's obviously a niche pundit who attracts more than usual amount of african-american viewers. His entire shtick is him screaming at the top of his lungs saying one-liners like "are you kidding me" or him facepalming for 5 secs while belittling the person he's arguing with (skip bayless).
If Skip Bayless is the kid at the back of the bus everyone picks on then Stephen A is the retard who got sent to remedial school because he couldn't cut it at the "regular" school. Hence why his terrible show got abruptly cancelled.
Also it's pretty obvious that Stephen A. seems to stick up for african-american plaeyrs that he feels like doesn't get enough due credit, while at the same time bashing white players who he feels like gets too much credit just fo rbeing white.
Euroleague
03-08-2012, 05:22 PM
Stephen A. Smith is a RACIST. He hates all non-black people.
Euroleague
03-08-2012, 05:25 PM
I don't like SAS. I think he's a walking minstrel show, but to say that he criticizes based solely on race is idiotic. He has ripped AI, Kwame, and many others relentlessly.
He has NEVER ripped a black player for something not related to playing, or personal actions.
He ALWAYS rips non-black players for ANYTHING he can think of.
Google Steven A. Smith and RASHOOOOO Nesterovic.
Smith is freaking racist.
Shepseskaf
03-08-2012, 05:27 PM
Stephen A. Smith is a RACIST. He hates all non-black people.
Seriously, STFU. If you actually listened to him, you'd find out that he hates many black people as well.
Euroleague
03-08-2012, 05:29 PM
:oldlol: Whatever happened to his show Quite Frankly?
There were so many complaints about his racism that it was cancelled.
Euroleague
03-08-2012, 05:34 PM
Seriously, STFU. If you actually listened to him, you'd find out that he hates many black people as well.
He's racist as hell.
Shepseskaf
03-08-2012, 05:46 PM
He's racist as hell.
Your opinion, not the truth.
Teanett
03-09-2012, 03:54 AM
Your opinion, not the truth.
he has a point.
i am apalled that someone like him gets air time on the leading sports network.
but then again, they did the "***** in the armour" thing.
SAS does hate on black players but only those whom he thinks make Blacks look bad.
He hates on Starbury and Allen Iverson for their selfish and/or thuggish attitudes.
He loves Kobe because he is a Black guy who is intelligent.
MeLO MvP 15
03-09-2012, 01:28 PM
I feel like ESPN gives bonuses to Skip and Stephen A to pick one side and be completely stubborn about it. We saw it with Tebow and LeBron (not comparing Lin to either!!! just the media coverage)
ace23
03-09-2012, 01:48 PM
He has NEVER ripped a black player for something not related to playing, or personal actions.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpCKg9mYMWM
ballashotcalla
03-09-2012, 02:51 PM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpCKg9mYMWM
He doesn't really rip the black athletes.
Really listen to what he says. He lists off facts about past black athletes deeds and at 1:46, his point is that, "black athletes don't get the benefit of the doubt and get a presumption of guilt."
FKAri
03-09-2012, 03:08 PM
Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless (all of ESPN really) are like Fox News personalities. They are characters who exist to create sensationalism.
Unlike the real news, sports don't really matter. So ESPN has no real responsibility to be factual or present an accurate perspective. Sports is show business guys. Otherwise there would be very little money in it.
wang4three
03-09-2012, 03:56 PM
I don't think Stephen A is racist, but he clearly shows preferential treatment to his own race. Which I normally would empathize with, but he dismisses and disregards whenever another minority group is getting a spotlight or fighting their own battles of equality. It's incredibly insensitive and degrading. If you listened to his comments on First Take after the Jeremy Lin "*****" article and you heard what he said about the Asian American community or Hispanic community, it's very dismissive and comes off as paranoid.
Bottom line: his opinions on anything outside of sports should never be broadcasted. He abuses his position of voice. Indirect racism is the new way of discrimination and Stephen A is guilty of it.
I don't think Stephen A is racist, but he clearly shows preferential treatment to his own race. Which I normally would empathize with, but he dismisses and disregards whenever another minority group is getting a spotlight or fighting their own battles of equality. It's incredibly insensitive and degrading. If you listened to his comments on First Take after the Jeremy Lin "*****" article and you heard what he said about the Asian American community or Hispanic community, it's very dismissive and comes off as paranoid.
Bottom line: his opinions on anything outside of sports should never be broadcasted. He abuses his position of voice. Indirect racism is the new way of discrimination and Stephen A is guilty of it.
I think the thing that has bothered me about the Jeremy Lin coverage is that there has been so many, if not racist just insensitive comments as if he's not a person. Chandler said in an interview speaking after Lin said he's not bothered by the ESPN "***** in the Armor" headline that it was "disconcerting how the news agencies are treating Jeremy like he's a thing and not an actual human being". I agree 100%.
ace23
03-09-2012, 05:09 PM
I think the thing that has bothered me about the Jeremy Lin coverage is that there has been so many, if not racist just insensitive comments as if he's not a person. Chandler said in an interview speaking after Lin said he's not bothered by the ESPN "***** in the Armor" headline that it was "disconcerting how the news agencies are treating Jeremy like he's a thing and not an actual human being". I agree 100%.
Never understood the ***** in the Armor" backlash. It was completely unintentional.
Go Getter
03-09-2012, 05:12 PM
I don't think Stephen A is racist, but he clearly shows preferential treatment to his own race. Which I normally would empathize with, but he dismisses and disregards whenever another minority group is getting a spotlight or fighting their own battles of equality. It's incredibly insensitive and degrading. If you listened to his comments on First Take after the Jeremy Lin "*****" article and you heard what he said about the Asian American community or Hispanic community, it's very dismissive and comes off as paranoid.
Bottom line: his opinions on anything outside of sports should never be broadcasted. He abuses his position of voice. Indirect racism is the new way of discrimination and Stephen A is guilty of it.
You need to look up the definition of racism and be a little less sensitive.
Godzuki
03-09-2012, 05:17 PM
You need to look up the definition of racism and be a little less sensitive.
i-hope-you're-not-a-ISH-black-guy-saying-that...
Go Getter
03-09-2012, 05:19 PM
i-hope-you're-not-a-ISH-black-guy-saying-that...
I hope that one day your nuts drop and you are able to sit at the table with grown men. Until then, get-away-from-me-son, ya-bother-me.
Godzuki
03-09-2012, 05:21 PM
I hope that one day your nuts drop and you are able to sit at the table with grown men. Until then, get-away-from-me-son, ya-bother-me.
just-calliing-you-out-hypocrite:confusedshrug:
now-go-cry-about-whitie-holding-you-down...
and-lol-@-grown-men...you-probably-have-the-knowledge-of-a-12yr-old-OTC-kid.
Shepseskaf
03-09-2012, 06:03 PM
i-hope-you're-not-a-ISH-black-guy-saying-that...
Again, with the hyphens, on a different account? What the f is wrong with you?
Get a GD keyboard, or don't post!
eazyduzzit10
03-09-2012, 06:08 PM
he likes to go against bayless. i love bayless
This. It's his job to go against Bayless. First take is like WWE, fake ass beef
eazyduzzit10
03-09-2012, 06:16 PM
There are none. He just stated the truth. He reads the scouting reports and Lin has obvious wholes in his game. He was playing above his head for a few games and he surprised many people put him on too high a pedestal too soon. The new thing I guess is to call a black guy racist for not liking what a non-black person does even though the comments are not racial at all. SAS mentions this in the clip. 98% of the players in the NBA are black and he criticizes black players all the time but because he's "raining on Lin's parade" he's gotta be a bigot.
:applause: :bowdown:
Smh at idiotic people calling SAS a racist because he's not all over Lin's nuts..if that's the case, then wtf would Skip Bayless be? Racist would be an understatement
Godzuki
03-09-2012, 06:30 PM
its-obvious-SAS-is-partially-racist...he's-got-that-same-SpikeLee-mentality.
you-can't-call-them-definitive-racists-but-they-obviously-favor-people-of-their-race-over-others-more-than-most-people-do.
Never understood the ***** in the Armor" backlash. It was completely unintentional.
Bullshit. It got taken down then put back up somewhere else and then it was said on the radio. People in ESPN thought it was cute and they could play the plausible deniability card. They were wrong.
You need to look up the definition of racism and be a little less sensitive.
I think you need to read and respect what others say a bit more. What did he say that was so outrageous that you dismissed it like you did?
Teanett
03-10-2012, 09:03 AM
i wonder what smith will say about today's game when it's clear that the knicks are losing their matchups to ilyasova and dunleavy.
Shepseskaf
03-10-2012, 09:16 AM
i wonder what smith will say about today's game when it's clear that the knicks are losing their matchups to ilyasova and dunleavy.
Give it a rest, why don't you?
Go Getter
03-10-2012, 10:43 AM
I think you need to read and respect what others say a bit more. What did he say that was so outrageous that you dismissed it like you did?
He said that SAS shows preference to blacks and undermines the plight of others. Those are serious accusations to put out there without ONE quote or statement to back them up.
Go Getter
03-10-2012, 10:45 AM
its-obvious-SAS-is-partially-racist...he's-got-that-same-SpikeLee-mentality.
you-can't-call-them-definitive-racists-but-they-obviously-favor-people-of-their-race-over-others-more-than-most-people-do.
You have no proof of this. How about supporting your claims with an example?
Spike Lee has put a lot of actors in the film game. Not all of them were black.
plUto or bUst
03-10-2012, 10:54 AM
You have no proof of this. How about supporting your claims with an example?
Spike Lee has put a lot of actors in the film game. Not all of them were black.
It is hard to prove racism, short of quoting someone blatantly declaring it. How about trying to decipher someone's actions and words at something a little higher than a first order level? For example, everyone knows Glenn Beck is a racist prick based on his actions and words but no one's going to be able to prove it.
Spike is cool in my book. He promotes a black agenda but he is also cognizant and appreciative of the struggles of other minority groups. On the other hand, SAS probably would have been a high ranking black panther militant if he had grown up in the 50s.
Go Getter
03-10-2012, 11:18 AM
It is hard to prove racism, short of quoting someone blatantly declaring it. How about trying to decipher someone's actions and words at something a little higher than a first order level? For example, everyone knows Glenn Beck is a racist prick based on his actions and words but no one's going to be able to prove it.
Spike is cool in my book. He promotes a black agenda but he is also cognizant and appreciative of the struggles of other minority groups. On the other hand, SAS probably would have been a high ranking black panther militant if he had grown up in the 50s.
So asking someone to back up a claim isn't reasonable?
I know Beck is a pundit, but other than that you telling me he is a racist does nothing to further the conversation. Why not point to examples of where you got the sentiment from?
Point to where SAS and Spike have said racist remarks or done racist acts.
Seems logical to me.
Go Getter
03-10-2012, 03:12 PM
just-calliing-you-out-hypocrite:confusedshrug:
now-go-cry-about-whitie-holding-you-down...
and-lol-@-grown-men...you-probably-have-the-knowledge-of-a-12yr-old-OTC-kid.
I am an Air Force veteran that has received several scholarships and grants. I've gotten along with all my teachers, coaches, and drill instructors for the most part and I've never been to jail. You won't catch me blaming my life situations on anyone but myself.
Lame attempt, lame angle to your trollong son.
Teanett
03-10-2012, 03:19 PM
I am an Air Force veteran that has received several scholarships and grants. I've gotten along with all my teachers, coaches, and drill instructors for the most part and I've never been to jail. You won't catch me blaming my life situations on anyone but myself.
Lame attempt, lame angle to your trollong son.
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