Wade is not the 2nd best player in the NBA

[G-Funk]

Bron, Kobe, Durant, Dwight, Paul & Rose are all better this season. This dude has been too inconsistent through out his career. He has only scored over 30pts 5x this season(31,33,30,33,34), Is averaging 22.5/4.4/4.9 and 3 turnovers per game...and is shooting 15% from the 3pt line

[sirkeelma]

Bron, Kobe, Durant, Dwight, Rose are all better this season. This dude has been too inconsistent through out his career. He has only scored over 30pts 5x this season(31,33,30,33,34), Is averaging 22.5/4.4/4.9 and 3 turnovers per game...and is shooting 15% from the 3pt line
Ok

[LABean]

Who said he was? I'd take LeBron or Bosh over him easily.

[(e)]

Who's calling him the second best player? Second best SG? Sure.

[ganja0710]

1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Rose
4. Dwight
5. Kobe

/endthread

[305Baller]

fine.

[Bladers]

His decline is so obvious.

[RidonKs]

hell he's not even the second best Dwyane Wade in the NBA

[305Baller]

hell he's not even the second best Dwyane Wade in the NBA

this

[PJR]

Op is fa99ot. And so are all Kobrick stans.

Wade is avg 22-5-4 on 50% shooting and 80% from the line. Beautiful efficiency. Playing exceptionally well. :bowdown:

[ThatsGame]

Op is fa99ot. And so are all Kobrick stans.

Wade is avg 22-5-4 on 50% shooting and 80% from the line. Beautiful efficiency. Playing exceptionally well. :bowdown:

This.

[Tenchi Ryu]

The nikka ain't even top 5 anymore.

[ganja0710]

Op is fa99ot. And so are all Kobrick stans.

Wade is avg 22-5-4 on 50% shooting and 80% from the line. Beautiful efficiency. Playing exceptionally well. :bowdown:
:roll: And that makes him the 2nd best player in the league? He's probably having one of his worst seasons of his career. At his best, he wasn't even the 2nd best player in the league. :oldlol:

[G-Funk]

Who said he was? I'd take LeBron or Bosh over him easily.



Who's calling him the second best player? Second best SG? Sure.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253843

[ThatsGame]

:roll: And that makes him the 2nd best player in the league? He's probably having one of his worst seasons of his career. At his best, he wasn't even the 2nd best player in the league. :oldlol:

Straight up trolling. At his best he put up the greatest finals performance of all time.

[lbj23clutch]

He's played through injuries throughout the season, which has affected his game. A healthy Wade is still a top 5 player.

[G-Funk]

Straight up trolling. At his best he put up the greatest finals performance of all time with a lot of help from the refs.
i agree

[ganja0710]

i agree
Me too.

[G-Funk]

He's played through injuries throughout the season, which has affected his game. A healthy Wade is still a top 5 player.
His injuries are part of the package. theres plenty players playing with injuries.

[lbj23clutch]

:roll: And that makes him the 2nd best player in the league? He's probably having one of his worst seasons of his career. At his best, he wasn't even the 2nd best player in the league. :oldlol:
:facepalm


06' and 09' Wade was arguably the best in the game during those years.

2006- REG SEASON=27/7/6/2 on 50% shooting.
Playoffs: 29/6/6/2/1 on 50% shooting and 38% from 3. Also had one of the most dominant finals in history coming back from down 0-2 and averaging 35/8/4/2 on 47% shooting.

2009- REG SEASON=30.2/5/7.5/2.2/1.3 on 49% shooting. This was Wade's peak year and easily his most dominant season from an individual standpoint. I had him slightly over LeBron that year during the regular season as the best player in the L. He was also just as deserving as LeBron to win the MVP that year carrying one of the worst teams in the league to the playoffs. This season was very similar to Kobe in the 05-06 season.

[ganja0710]

:facepalm


06' and 09' Wade was arguably the best in the game during those years.

2006- REG SEASON=27/7/6/2 on 50% shooting.
Playoffs: 29/6/6/2/1 on 50% shooting and 38% from 3. Also had one of the most dominant finals in history coming back from down 0-2 and averaging 35/8/4/2 on 47% shooting.

2009- REG SEASON=30.2/5/7.5/2.2/1.3 on 49% shooting. This was Wade's peak year and easily his most dominant season from an individual standpoint. I had him slightly over LeBron that year during the regular season as the best player in the L. He was also just as deserving as LeBron to win the MVP that year carrying one of the worst teams in the league to the playoffs.
No.

Kobe and LeBron were better players in both 2006 and 09. Wade was 3rd at best. Hell even Iverson in '06 may have a case over Wade too.

[Bladers]

Straight up trolling. At his best he put up the greatest finals performance of all time.
wade's last great performance was at the free throw line in 2006 the finals MVP should read worlds most valuable free throw shooter

[lbj23clutch]

No.

Kobe and LeBron were better players in both 2006 and 09. Wade was 3rd at best. Hell even Iverson in '06 may have a case over Wade too.
:oldlol:

How so? Wade in 06' put up great numbers in the regular season and post season and also came up when it mattered most, leading one of the most historical comebacks in finals history and posting some of the most dominant numbers in the finals. Sure Kobe had some historical scoring binges and led the league in scoring with 35 PPG, but he was a first round exit in the PO and also gave up a 3-1 lead in a series during the 06 playoffs. LeBron also put up unreal numbers in the regular season putting up 31/7/6, but he was eliminated in the 2nd round. It's close but I have to give the edge to Wade over these guys because he won a ring and won a finals MVP

2009 Wade was at worst tied with LeBron, just look at the numbers and look what he did with that sorry ass team. Give the man his due and stop underrating this guy. It's unbelievable how this guy has been continually underrated since coming into the league. He's had plenty of season where he's been every bit as good as LeBron and Kobe.

[Micku]

He is around top 5. I think 2-5 is arguable especially since Wade is healthy and all. I wouldn't get confuse by the stats, even though his stats are good. Wade could be the 2nd best player in the league when he is healthy. He has been kind'a healthy since his injury, so he is definitely playing great so far.

[RazorBaLade]

:oldlol:

How so? Wade in 06' put up great numbers in the regular season and post season and also came up when it mattered most, leading one of the most historical comebacks in finals history and posting some of the most dominant numbers in the finals. Sure Kobe had some historical scoring binges and led the league in scoring with 35 PPG, but he was a first round exit in the PO and also gave up a 3-1 lead in a series during the 06 playoffs. LeBron also put up unreal numbers in the regular season putting up 31/7/6, but he was eliminated in the 2nd round. It's close but I have to give the edge to Wade over these guys because he won a ring and won a finals MVP

2009 Wade was at worst tied with LeBron, just look at the numbers and look what he did with that sorry ass team. Give the man his due and stop underrating this guy. It's unbelievable how this guy has been continually underrated since coming into the league. He's had plenty of season where he's been every bit as good as LeBron and Kobe.

So, 06 wade > 06 kobe because he was a first round exit in the PO while wade won a ring. And 09 wade > 09 kobe because of what wade was able to do with his crappy team and it doesn't matter that kobe won a ring.

boy...

Actually, this might be one of the worst posts I've ever seen. How did you not realize what you were typing? Seriously one of the worst posts ever made on here. The hypocrisy is ASTOUNDING.

[PHaYze]

wade > rose

[blablabla]

most overrated player in the game

[Eric Cartman]

http://gifsoup.com/view/809918/austin-powers-mole-o.gif

[Tenchi Ryu]

wade > rose
Nope, he hasn't done ANYTHING this year to be better than Rose or Durant.

[madmax]

yes, he is - 2nd best after Lebron:cheers:

1. Bron Bron
2. DWade
3. Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Ginobili

[Tenchi Ryu]

yes, he is - 2nd best after Lebron:cheers:

1. Bron Bron
2. DWade
3. Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Ginobili
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[LosBulls]

Straight up trolling. At his best he put up the greatest finals performance of all time.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/mca8690/imma_let_you_finish20.jpg

[Nash-tastic]

yes, he is - 2nd best after Lebron:cheers:

1. Bron Bron
2. DWade
3. Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Ginobili
:wtf:

[chairman]

Wade would be top 5, lebron is top 5 though. He jus straight up chokes

[LEFT4DEAD]

Give me efficient Wade over chucking Kobe any day. He is playing only 32 minutes per game and has played big amount of games under ankle injury. He will be easily the best player in the playoff if healthy this year. Just watch. And LOL at CP3 being top 5 player in the league.

[MJ(Mean John)]

He needs to re-up on his roids

Real shit.

[Eric Cartman]

yes, he is - 2nd best after Lebron:cheers:

1. Bron Bron
2. DWade
3. Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Ginobili

This brings stupidity to a whole nother level.

[SpaceJammeR]

well he got injured so many times this season. lmao. he will show up in the playoffs that's for sure!:hammerhead:

[Doctor Rivers]

Straight up trolling. At his best he put up the greatest finals performance of all time.

So much truth to this statement.

[jrong]

1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Rose
4. Dwight
5. Kobe


Durant is the only other one who has an argument for the #2 spot due to the combination of his dominant and efficient scoring/shooting. I still say Wade takes it, however, because he adds the dimension of playmaking as well as superior defense.

Howard doesn't have Wade's offensive talents or playmaking. CP3 isn't as dominant. Rose?? Kobe?? Um yeah, not with those shooting percentages; 51% shooters >....

Last night, Rose went 12/29 for 32 pts. Wade hasn't taken close to 29 shots in a game in the last two years. Saturday Wade went 10/16 (8/9 FTs) for 28 pts. That's an example of the kind of efficiency Wade routinely provides; he does more with fewer possessions-- only averages 17 shots. And you certainly can't say Rose doesn't get calls anymore. The same type of shot Wade had to hit to win the game on Saturday while being fouled got Rose a whistle, and he actually blatantly jumped into into Jeremy Lin.

And as for Kobe.... 24 shots/game, 43% FGs-- need I say more?

And then of course, there's the whole Wade averages 22.5 pts (on 50.5%), 4.4 rebs, 4.9 asts, 1.7 stls and 1.3 blks in 32 minutes which translates to an easy #2 rank in PER-- despite having his first month wrecked by physical problems.

And finally, the coup de gras-- Per 36 minutes:

Wade: 25.3 pts (50.5% FGs), 4.9 rebs, 5.5 asts
Rose: 23.1 pts (45% FGs), 3.5 rebs, 8.1 asts
Bryant: 27.1 pts (43.5% FGs), 5.3 rebs, 4.5 asts
Durant: 26.4 pts (50.2% FGs), 7.4 rebs, 3.2 asts

Rose out-assists Wade/ Kobe outscores Wade (must be nice not to have to share an offense), but he destroys their FG%. And, again, these are the numbers with Wade sitting nine games and playing another nine at far less than 100%. As I said, Durant is the only one who has an argument (but, once more, the above numbers don't factor in defensive stats or defense in general, so even he really doesn't.)

[LEFT4DEAD]

Durant is the only other one who has an argument for the #2 spot due to the combination of his dominant and sfficient scoring/shooting. I still say Wade takes it, however, because he adds the dimension of playmaking as well as superior defense.

Rose? Kobe? Um yeah, not with those shooting percentages; 51% shooters >....

Last night, Rose went 12/29 for 32 pts. Wade hasn't taken close to 29 shots in a game in the last to years. Saturday Wade went 10/16 (8/9 FTs) for 28 pts. That's an exampe of the kind of efficiency Wade routinely provides-- he does more with fewer possessions; he only averages 17 shots. And you certainly can't say Rose doesn't get calls anymore. The same shot type of Wade had to hit Saturday while being fouled, got Rose a whistle, and he blatantly jumped into into Jeremy Lin.

And as for Kobe.... 24 shots/game, 43% FGs-- need I say more? Dwight Howard? Not as offensively talented nor can he make plays for teammates. Chris Paul? Not as dominant.

And then of course, there's the whole Wade averages 22.5 pts (on 50.5%), 4.4 rebs, 4.9 asts, 1.7 stls and 1.3 blks in 32 minutes which translates to an easy #2 rank in PER-- despite having his first month wrecked by physical problems.

And finally the coup de gras:

Per 36 minutes:

Wade: 25.3 pts (50.5% FGs), 4.9 rebs, 5.5 asts
Rose: 23.1 pts (45% FGs), 3.5 rebs, 8.1 asts
Bryant: 27.1 pts (43.5% FGs), 5.3 rebs, 4.5 asts
Durant: 26.4 pts (50.2% FGs), 7.4 rebs, 3.2 asts

Rose still out-assists Wade and Kobe outscores Wade, but he destroys their FG%. And, again, this is with Wade sitting nine games and playing another nine at far less than 100%. As I said, Durant is the only who has an argument (but, once more, the above numbers don't factor in defensive stats or defense in general, so even he really doesn't.)
:cheers:
thread/

[Yung D-Will]

If you're talking about strictly this season then no? But it's also hard to judge because of the injuries this season. But at this point Rose, Durant and Kobe have all been better ( and of course Dwight)

But the past three seasons he's been the second best player.

[derb2k2]

this is a blatant bait thread. The OP might be right that Wade is not second overall, but this thread just invites hate and bs.

[D-Wade316]

Durant is the only other one who has an argument for the #2 spot due to the combination of his dominant and efficient scoring/shooting. I still say Wade takes it, however, because he adds the dimension of playmaking as well as superior defense.

Howard doesn't have Wade's offensive talents or playmaking. CP3 isn't as dominant. Rose?? Kobe?? Um yeah, not with those shooting percentages; 51% shooters >....

Last night, Rose went 12/29 for 32 pts. Wade hasn't taken close to 29 shots in a game in the last two years. Saturday Wade went 10/16 (8/9 FTs) for 28 pts. That's an example of the kind of efficiency Wade routinely provides; he does more with fewer possessions-- only averages 17 shots. And you certainly can't say Rose doesn't get calls anymore. The same shot type of Wade had to hit to win the game on Saturday while being fouled got Rose a whistle, and he actually blatantly jumped into into Jeremy Lin.

And as for Kobe.... 24 shots/game, 43% FGs-- need I say more?

And then of course, there's the whole Wade averages 22.5 pts (on 50.5%), 4.4 rebs, 4.9 asts, 1.7 stls and 1.3 blks in 32 minutes which translates to an easy #2 rank in PER-- despite having his first month wrecked by physical problems.

And finally, the coup de gras-- Per 36 minutes:

Wade: 25.3 pts (50.5% FGs), 4.9 rebs, 5.5 asts
Rose: 23.1 pts (45% FGs), 3.5 rebs, 8.1 asts
Bryant: 27.1 pts (43.5% FGs), 5.3 rebs, 4.5 asts
Durant: 26.4 pts (50.2% FGs), 7.4 rebs, 3.2 asts

Rose out-assists Wade/ Kobe outscores Wade (must be nice not to have to share an offense), but he destroys their FG%. And, again, these are the numbers with Wade sitting nine games and playing another nine at far less than 100%. As I said, Durant is the only who has an argument (but, once more, the above numbers don't factor in defensive stats or defense in general, so even he really doesn't.)
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

2nd best player in the league. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[jrong]

If you're talking about strictly this season then no? But it's also hard to judge because of the injuries this season. But at this point Rose, Durant and Kobe have all been better ( and of course Dwight)

But the past three seasons he's been the second best player.

No, none of the above have been better than Wade, even in spite of his injury-wrecked December and January. Read my post above. I shut this argument down. Numbers are stubborn entities.

And, of course, all we have to do is see James or Wade traded, and the very notion that Wade isn't the 2nd best becomes utterly preposterous.

[donald_trump]

Nope, he hasn't done ANYTHING this year to be better than Rose or Durant.

what exactly has rose done this season to be better than wade?

[Lebron23]

Wade is putting up good numbers latery. He just needs to be more consistent and healthy. Wade > Kobe. Kobe is a very inefficient scorer despite playing with 2 talented big men.

[donald_trump]

and calling him inconsistent, then citing his 5 games over 30 points is a complete contradiction of itself. that means hes ultra consistent in producing the numbers you see as his averages. it'd make him one of the most consistent players in the league.

not to mention he's been the clutchest in the league.

[jrong]

what exactly has rose done this season to be better than wade?

Absolutely nothing. He's the same player he was last year, only marginally more efficient (when stats on-their-face tilted even more heavily in favor of Wade). Both Rose and Westbrook remind me of what Wade would be like if he had suffered head trauma as a child. They just aren't remotely as smart as him on the basketball court, and Wade's basketball intelligence is one of the keys to his metronomic efficiency.

[D-Wade316]

Absolutely nothing. He's the same player he was last year, only marginally more efficient (when stats on-their-face tilted even more heavily in favor of Wade). Both Rose and Westbrook remind me of what Wade would be like if he had suffered head trauma as a child. They just aren't remotely as smart as him on the basketball court, and Wade's basketball intelligence is one of the keys to his metronomic efficiency.
Haha lol so true. Rose and Westbrook at this point are marginally better or equal to Wade in 07-08.

[G-Funk]

bump

[LEFT4DEAD]

bump
Go back to your cave. Nothing new here.

[Whoah10115]

Another case of one season deciding a player's place in the game.



I hold out for Kobe because he has games where he looks close enough to still warrant me considering taking him for the win.



But in all probability, Lebron (who has never played this well before) and Wade are the two best players in basketball.



If I have to win a game I want the best player. I will take Wade over Rose very easily and Wade is still clearly a better player. I'll take him over Durant and I'll take him over Dirk (who no one is talking about) and I'll take him over Howard and I'll pee on the guy who takes Bosh and then Kobe will make me think twice cuz I just don't know about him...and Lebron and Wade...I could pick Wade over Lebron and live with it.

[chauzer]

who said he was

[Legends66NBA7]

Yes, I agree he isn't. He's Top 5 though...

2nd best is Durant. How is this even being debated right now ?

Howard's also ahead of him. And then there is the arguement for both Rose and Westbrook. And I don't think I can put him over Kobe just yet...

Wade's, while he's been on a tear, hasn't been fully consisntent as I would like him to be, regardless of high fg%.

[Dengness9]

Absolutely nothing. He's the same player he was last year, only marginally more efficient (when stats on-their-face tilted even more heavily in favor of Wade). Both Rose and Westbrook remind me of what Wade would be like if he had suffered head trauma as a child. They just aren't remotely as smart as him on the basketball court, and Wade's basketball intelligence is one of the keys to his metronomic efficiency.


All i know is if Derrick Rose had the best player on the planet on his team to go w/ another all-star stud PF, he wouldn't of lost in the finals.

D-wade's basketball intelligence really helped him when he and Lebron celebrated in front of the Mavs bench and when he and Lebron made fun of Dirk with the coughing BS in the finals.

Wade will be irrelevant within 4-5 years so whatever.

Derrick Rose will go down as the best baller out of Chicago ever most likely, and is only 1 title behind Wade, so remember that. And if Shaq wasn't in Miami, Wade would have no titles, i don't care if he was the FMVP, everyone knows dude got the most calls ever in a finals series.

And lastly, before anyone tries to go there, i'll do it......Lebron and Bosh are the main reason the Heat beat the Bulls last year, not Wade.

[I.R.Beast]

He's 3rd best behing LeBron/Durant however you order the 2....


Wade has been just as good as anybody since becoming healthy tearing in up in limited minutes..... he and james have been equaling each other in output since his return despite james logging a significant amount more minutes.

[oolalaa]

Yes he is...

1. Durant
2. Wade
3. James
4. Bryant
5. Nowitzki
6. Paul
7. Rose
8. Howard
9. Love
10. Williams

- Can you imagine the numbers Durant would be putting up if he didn't have that shot jacking turnover machine playing next to him? He has taken 'the leap' this year. I'm just not sure anyone has noticed :confusedshrug:

- Until Lebron sorts his crunch time woes out, Wade gets the nod over him.

- Kobe's first step has completely disappeared. He has lost a lot of lift on his jumper (especially noticeable when he's taking fadeaways). It looks like he's playing in slow motion nowadays. But I can't write off someone who is that competitive and dedicated to winning. :no:

- Dirk was the best player in the league for a solid month last year. Playoffs month. Don't forget that people. :pimp:

- Who is the best point in the league, Paul or Rose? Apples and Oranges.

- Howard will never, ever be the best player on a championship team.

- Love is a spot up shooter who happens to be an insane rebounder. Can he consistently create his own shot? Is he someone you can give the ball to in crunch time and say "go get us a bucket"? I'm not sure.

- He doesn't get talked about. Ever. That's part and parcel of playing on a shitty team I guess. He is playing at a high level though, and that eight 3 pointer game against the Knicks showed me a little something - that he didn't appreciate what happened in their previous meeting, and he wanted to teach Lin and NY a lesson. I like that. I like that a lot.

[zizozain]

The nikka ain't even top 5 anymore.
not even top 10 this season

players better than Wade:

Chris Paul
Kevin Durant
Derrick Rose
Dwight Howard
Kevin Love
Kobe Bryant
LeBron James
LaMarcus Aldridge
Blake Griffin
Russell Westbrook
D. Williams
Dirk Nowitzki

[RRR3]

Yes he is...

1. Durant
2. Wade
3. James
4. Bryant
5. Nowitzki
6. Paul
7. Rose
8. Howard
9. Love
10. Williams

- Can you imagine the numbers Durant would be putting up if he didn't have that shot jacking turnover machine playing next to him? He has taken 'the leap' this year. I'm just not sure anyone has noticed :confusedshrug:

- Until Lebron sorts his crunch time woes out, Wade gets the nod over him.

- Kobe's first step has completely disappeared. He has lost a lot of lift on his jumper (especially noticeable when he's taking fadeaways). It looks like he's playing in slow motion nowadays. But I can't write off someone who is that competitive and dedicated to winning. :no:

- Dirk was the best player in the league for a solid month last year. Playoffs month. Don't forget that people. :pimp:

- Who is the best point in the league, Paul or Rose? Apples and Oranges.

- Howard will never, ever be the best player on a championship team.

- Love is a spot up shooter who happens to be an insane rebounder. Can he consistently create his own shot? Is he someone you can give the ball to in crunch time and say "go get us a bucket"? I'm not sure.

- He doesn't get talked about. Ever. That's part and parcel of playing on a shitty team I guess. He is playing at a high level though, and that eight 3 pointer game against the Knicks showed me a little something - that he didn't appreciate what happened in their previous meeting, and he wanted to teach Lin and NY a lesson. I like that. I like that a lot.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Didn't see LeBron be "clutch" against the Pacers the other day, eh? :facepalm Worst. List. Ever.

[ganja0710]

yes, he is - 2nd best after Lebron:cheers:

1. Bron Bron
2. DWade
3. Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Ginobili
:oldlol:

UDUMBBRO?

[EnoughSaid]

Wade DOESN'T need to score ****ing 30 points a game for his team to win. He's been the most clutch player this season, and has also played incredibly defense. He's also doing everything on 30mpg people. :facepalm

[StateOfMind12]

Based on this season alone I wouldn't even say Wade is top 5.

(in no order)
Durant
Lebron
Howard
Rose
Kobe

have all been better than him. I would still say Wade is a top 5 overall player though. I would simply replace Wade with Kobe on that list.

He is not the 2nd best player in the league though. That is clearly Durant who actually has an argument for the best player in the league. It's not an argument I agree with as of now but it is an argument that I can understand. I would just say it is premature to say Durant is the best player in the league. I think he will be though and it can be as soon as the end of this season.

[All Net]

Injures is the big reason why Wade struggled early on. I still consider Wade a top 3 player regardless of his struggles early. I can still why others don

[dunksby]

If you actually watch NBA regularly you would not even debate this. The best two players in the league are Lebron and Durant no question.

[All Net]

If you actually watch NBA regularly you would not even debate this. The best two players in the league are Lebron and Durant no question.

And they will be for quite a few years to come too...

[Heavincent]

Probably not even top 5 this season. Durant, Kobe, Lebron, Rose, and Dwight are all better than Wade. That's pretty clear to most people that aren't Wade/Heat homers.

[TheMan]

Wade is top 5-7.

[CavaliersFTW]

No argument here... who here suggested he was the 2nd best player? I mean, you might as well start a thread to let everyone know that Pau Gasol is also not the 2nd best player in the league. Just in case people didn't know :confusedshrug:

[Legends66NBA7]

Yes he is...

1. Durant
2. Wade
3. James
4. Bryant
5. Nowitzki
6. Paul
7. Rose
8. Howard
9. Love
10. Williams

Come on oolala, I thought you were a better poster than that.

James 3rd is ridiculous.

Dirk at 5 ? Where's Westbrook ? What's Paul doing over Rose ?

Howard 8 ?

Come on now..

[oolalaa]

Come on oolala, I thought you were a better poster than that.

James 3rd is ridiculous.

Dirk at 5 ? Where's Westbrook ? What's Paul doing over Rose ?

Howard 8 ?

Come on now..



I gave you a couple of reasons for my rankings. They are not based on form as such, but rather who I would choose to start a team, with the goal of winning a championship in a couple of months.



1. James at 3 is ridiculous?? I assume you mean he should be number 1. To that I say....

DID YOU NOT WATCH THE NBA FINALS LAST YEAR???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: :confusedshrug: :banghead:

Clearly you didn't, because no one can be ****ing stupid enough to rank a player who chocked an entire series away at number 1. In fact, he could, and maybe should, be lower. He could be below Kobe, who at least is a proven winner.

2. Dirk at 5 is too high?? To that I say....

DID YOU NOT WATCH THE PLAYOFFS LAST YEAR?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :oldlol: :rockon: :bowdown:

3. Westbrook? Is Westbrook better than Williams? Maybe, maybe not. He certainly has a higher upside but he's turning the ball over 4 times a game! And taking shots away from the leagues best scorer. It's slightly farcical that he's shooting the ball just as much as Durant.

4. Paul over Rose is dumb? Are you trolling?

5. Howard is O V E R R A T E D. I'll say this again....you are never winning a championship if he is your best player. He's not good enough offensively and he sucks in crunch time. He also has screwed up priorities- he is not highly competitive and is a questionable leader. O V E R R A T E D

[Kiddlovesnets]

When was he the 2nd best player in NBA?

[oolalaa]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Didn't see LeBron be "clutch" against the Pacers the other day, eh? :facepalm Worst. List. Ever.

Didn't see Lebron choke an entire series away last year huh?

Maybe you were up his asscrack the entire time? Maybe that's why he played like a bum in the finals? :confusedshrug:

[RRR3]

Didn't see Lebron choke an entire series away last year huh?

Maybe you were up his asscrack the entire time? Maybe that's why he played like a bum in the finals? :confusedshrug:
What an idiot. :facepalm So why'd you rank Dirk below LeBron? You don't even follow your own "logic" :lol
:roll: :roll: :roll:
LeBron below Kobe, LOLOLOLOLOL

[TheNaturalWR]

All i know is if Derrick Rose had the best player on the planet on his team to go w/ another all-star stud PF, he wouldn't of lost in the finals.

D-wade's basketball intelligence really helped him when he and Lebron celebrated in front of the Mavs bench and when he and Lebron made fun of Dirk with the coughing BS in the finals.

Wade will be irrelevant within 4-5 years so whatever.

Derrick Rose will go down as the best baller out of Chicago ever most likely, and is only 1 title behind Wade, so remember that. And if Shaq wasn't in Miami, Wade would have no titles, i don't care if he was the FMVP, everyone knows dude got the most calls ever in a finals series.

And lastly, before anyone tries to go there, i'll do it......Lebron and Bosh are the main reason the Heat beat the Bulls last year, not Wade.

No way Rose would of won in fact they would've gotten swept if you replaced Wade with Rose. You have the best player in basketball playing like a scrub and you expect a bonafide chucker point guard to help you out? Nope it doesn't work like that buddy. There's no one in the league that would of played better than Wade did in the Finals. He won them games and got them to stay in games so just shut up.

Wade is the better all-around player by far and it's not even a debate. If I need to win a game best believe I'm putting Wade and LeBron before Rose. I agree with LeBron and Bosh being the bigger factors in the series but Rose could've been the MVP of that series with the way he was stinking up the joint in the 4th quarters but hey nobody talks about that :confusedshrug:

Better scorer: Wade by a considerable margin
Passer: Even if you ask me
Rebounder: Wade
Defender: Wade
Shooter: both are mediocre but I'll give the 3 ball to Rose
And there biggest strengths, slashing and finishing: Still Wade at age 30. :roll:
So all in all better all-around player? Wade by a god damn mile.

[Tenchi Ryu]

what exactly has rose done this season to be better than wade?
Has contributed more to his team than Wade has to Miami, has been more consistent than Wade when it comes to being dependable, Has been one of the clutchest players in the league with Durant, has closed out, dominated, or led back comebacks FAAR more, has a 46% FG based of heavily contested shots compared to Wade who pretty much gets ALL his points on easy transition layups/Dunks or FTs, has his team as the number one team in the league.

Wade is not even top 5.

1.Lebron
2.Kobe
3.Durant/Rose
4.Howard
5.CP3

[Tenchi Ryu]

No way Rose would of won in fact they would've gotten swept if you replaced Wade with Rose.
Stopped reading, guaranteed to be a dumbass post. Miami GMs would trade Wade for Rose in a fukkin heartbeak.

[TheNaturalWR]

Stopped reading, guaranteed to be a dumbass post. Miami GMs would trade Wade for Rose in a fukkin heartbeak.

Nice comprehension. :facepalm

[SwooshReturns]

Has contributed more to his team than Wade has to Miami, has been more consistent than Wade when it comes to being dependable, Has been one of the clutchest players in the league with Durant, has closed out, dominated, or led back comebacks FAAR more, has a 46% FG based of heavily contested shots compared to Wade who pretty much gets ALL his points on easy transition layups/Dunks or FTs, has his team as the number one team in the league.

Wade is not even top 5.

1.Lebron
2.Kobe
3.Durant/Rose
4.Howard
5.CP3
Bro .... easy there. :roll: :roll: :roll:

I love D. Rose as much as my next fellow Chicago product ... but c'mon.

D. Wade is going to go down as the best player to ever come out of Chicago.

He's already 4th on the all-time SG list, and he can easily surpass West in the next few years given he wins multiple rings w/ LeBron and Bosh. And then at the end he's right there in discussion w/ Kobe in terms of legacy, career ranking.

Rose has never been the all around player, or hell even versatile scoring threat Wade has been at his best.

Even now with an injury plagued season, I still would rather have Wade than Rose.

If you swapped the two players evenly ... the Bulls get even better.

Watson
Wade
Deng
Boozer
Noah

is a team with no flaws, no holes, and even BETTER defensively (Rose is at times suspect, he only plays d against quality opponents) than our current team.

Rose being out so many games and them still winning is proof positive he isn't the player Dwyane Wade is ...

Wade's best seasons

2006
2007 (pre-shoulder injury)
2009
2010
2011

Are all better than Rose's MVP season, and better than his current season.

Don't be a homer in this regard. Wade is clearly the better player than Rose.

[oolalaa]

What an idiot. :facepalm So why'd you rank Dirk below LeBron? You don't even follow your own "logic" :lol
:roll: :roll: :roll:
LeBron below Kobe, LOLOLOLOLOL

1. It will be hard for Dirk to replicate what he did last year again this year. He had one of the 'clutchest' post seasons runs of all time. I wouldn't bet against him doing something similar again, but I think it's unlikely.

2. Likewise, It will be just as hard, if not harder, for Lebron to choke as badly as he did last year. It's almost impossible.

The fact that Lebron is so much more talented than Dirk, and the fact that he's having one of the best statistical regular seasons ever, makes up for Lebron's inferior 'clutchness'.

YOU RETARD :hammerhead:

[Tenchi Ryu]

That's the problem, Wade is not the same player he was, hell he's not even the same player he was last year. Wade has been gone, and a Lebron carried Heat team arguably was BETTER. Was Wade the better player last year? Absolutely. Does he have the better career? Absolutely. But Wade has done NOTHING THIS season to suggest to me he's better than Rose, Durant, Howard, or even Kobe at times. Rose's FG% would easily be in the 50's if he had the same fast break transition opportunities as Wade.

Watson
Wade
Deng
Boozer
Noah

Of course they get better, but thats only because that's a LEGIT complete roster. With Rose, we all know we have SG issues. Place in a legit SG like Aaron Affalo...

Rose
Affalo
Deng
Boozer
Noah

I'd take that team over the first. Now if this was 06, of course I'd take Wade over Rose, but this ain't 06 anymore.

[RRR3]

1. It will be hard for Dirk to replicate what he did last year again this year. He had one of the 'clutchest' post seasons runs of all time. I wouldn't bet against him doing something similar again, but I think it's unlikely.

2. Likewise, It will be just as hard, if not harder, for Lebron to choke as badly as he did last year. It's almost impossible.

The fact that Lebron is so much more talented than Dirk, and the fact that he's having one of the best statistical regular seasons ever, makes up for Lebron's inferior 'clutchness'.

YOU RETARD :hammerhead:
So why is LeBron third? :rolleyes: I must have missed it when Durant was super clutch i the playoffs last year.

[TheNaturalWR]

That's the problem, Wade is not the same player he was, hell he's not even the same player he was last year. Wade has been gone, and a Lebron carried Heat team arguably was BETTER. Was Wade the better player last year? Absolutely. Does he have the better career? Absolutely. But Wade has done NOTHING THIS season to suggest to me he's better than Rose, Durant, Howard, or even Kobe at times. Rose's FG% would easily be in the 50's if he had the same fast break transition opportunities as Wade.

Watson
Wade
Deng
Boozer
Noah

Of course they get better, but thats only because that's a LEGIT complete roster. With Rose, we all know we have SG issues. Place in a legit SG like Aaron Affalo...

Rose
Affalo
Deng
Boozer
Noah

I'd take that team over the first. Now if this was 06, of course I'd take Wade over Rose, but this ain't 06 anymore.

oh lawddd :facepalm

[SwooshReturns]

Of course they get better, but thats only because that's a LEGIT complete roster. With Rose, we all know we have SG issues. Place in a legit SG like Aaron Affalo...

Rose
Affalo
Deng
Boozer
Noah

I'd take that team over the first. Now if this was 06, of course I'd take Wade over Rose, but this ain't 06 anymore.
That team isn't better than the Bulls w/ Wade in place of Rose.

And you're going to hate to hear this ... but Wade was still the better player as recently as last year.

You can't rank him top five right now given context. He's been hurt for much of the year, but you're smoking that good ish if you think Rose is a better player than Wade.

I was DYING for us to have a completely native Chicago backcourt after the summer of 2010. I wanted Wade more than LeBron.

Rose
Wade
Deng
Boozer
Noah

:facepalm

Multiple rings.

[Legends66NBA7]

Couple of things...

1) No need for the bigger font size isn't needed. Just make a simple point and less smilies, please.

2) I'm entitled to my own opinion, I just thought you came of as trolling on a couple of things.


1. James at 3 is ridiculous?? I assume you mean he should be number 1. To that I say....

DID YOU NOT WATCH THE NBA FINALS LAST YEAR???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clearly you didn't, because no one can be ****ing stupid enough to rank a player who chocked an entire series away at number 1. In fact, he could, and maybe should, be lower. He could be below Kobe, who at least is a proven winner.

Right now, sir.

What is James doing right now... what happened last year is what it is... Last year.

This 2012, it's a new season and James is destroying this league right now. Are you missing out on that ?

I don't mind if you have Durant over James, but James not in the Top 2 ? I smell B.S.

And isn't that a flaw in your logic ? Durant didn't even get to the finals... so how's he number 1 ?


2. Dirk at 5 is too high?? To that I say....

DID YOU NOT WATCH THE PLAYOFFS LAST YEAR?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again, relevant to this year ?

Dirk is getting back to form, but Top 5 ? He isn't.


3. Westbrook? Is Westbrook better than Williams? Maybe, maybe not. He certainly has a higher upside but he's turning the ball over 4 times a game! And taking shots away from the leagues best scorer. It's slightly farcical that he's shooting the ball just as much as Durant.

Perhaps, but I think Westbrook has been more consistent and is the better two player so far this season.

Again, this season.


4. Paul over Rose is dumb? Are you trolling?

I didn't say it was dumb, but I think Paul over him is overrating him a bit... people overrate his defense and the Bulls offensively need Rose to do more than Paul does for him.

Not trolling, I feel you are.


5. Howard is O V E R R A T E D. I'll say this again....you are never winning a championship if he is your best player. He's not good enough offensively and he sucks in crunch time. He also has screwed up priorities- he is not highly competitive and is a questionable leader. O V E R R A T E D

While I do feel he is overrated, he has to be in Top 3-5 range. He's still an important anchor to Orlando's defense... and again.. this year.

And by going by what your saying, if he's the second option on a team he gets traded on... championship, yes ?

Anyways, you're big fonts shocked me there. :oldlol:

I don't mind if we disagree though. :cheers:

[Tenchi Ryu]

That team isn't better than the Bulls w/ Wade in place of Rose.

And you're going to hate to hear this ... but Wade was still the better player as recently as last year.

You can't rank him top five right now given context. He's been hurt for much of the year, but you're smoking that good ish if you think Rose is a better player than Wade.

But that's exactly what I'm going off of bro, what we've seen. And so far, Rose has had a better season and been a more valuable player. Now if Wade is the better player, he's gonna have to show me that. But based off of what I've seen and not what if's, I've yet to see it.



I was DYING for us to have a completely native Chicago backcourt after the summer of 2010. I wanted Wade more than LeBron.

Rose
Wade
Deng
Boozer
Noah

:facepalm

Multiple rings.
He just doesn't want to play here, and he's rubbed some Chicago fans the wrong way because of it. That with the fact he has proclaimed Miami has his town, he probably ain't going no where.

[Glide2keva]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/LadyVoldything/sayitwithagif/batgif.gif

[Chaddai]

Has contributed more to his team than Wade has to Miami, has been more consistent than Wade when it comes to being dependable, Has been one of the clutchest players in the league with Durant, has closed out, dominated, or led back comebacks FAAR more, has a 46% FG based of heavily contested shots compared to Wade who pretty much gets ALL his points on easy transition layups/Dunks or FTs, has his team as the number one team in the league.

Wade is not even top 5.

1.Lebron
2.Kobe
3.Durant/Rose
4.Howard
5.CP3

Im sorry, but NO WAY KOBE is the 2nd best player in the league. Durant IS BY FAR the second best player in the league.

[oolalaa]

So why is LeBron third? :rolleyes: I must have missed it when Durant was super clutch i the playoffs last year.

What do you mean "why is Lebron third?"

He is behind Durant because I think Durant is the best player in the league. Is that a good enough reason? :oldlol: Yeh, Durant could have been better 'in the clutch' in last years playoffs but he also didn't choke an entire series away!!!!! I trust Durant down the stretch much more than I do Lebron. And just like DRose, I love his competitiveness and single minded obsession about basketball. He has also become a very good leader.

He is behind Wade because Wade is a better crunch time scorer and the leader of that Heat team. He also happens to be one of the best all round players in the league and one of the few who can keep up with Bron in the scoring department.

He is ahead of Kobe partly because of age. Kobe has slipped a lot in the last couple years - like I said, it looks like he's playing in slow motion. Lebron on the other hand is in his absolute prime and enjoying one of the best statistical regular seasons ever.

He is ahead of Paul and Rose simply because those two can't compete with his all round game.

[RRR3]

What do you mean "why is Lebron third?"

He is behind Durant because I think Durant is the best player in the league. Is that a good enough reason? :oldlol: Yeh, Durant could have been better 'in the clutch' in last years playoffs but he also didn't choke an entire series away!!!!! I trust Durant down the stretch much more than I do Lebron. And just like DRose, I love his competitiveness and single minded obsession about basketball. He has also become a very good leader.

He is behind Wade because Wade is a better crunch time scorer and the leader of that Heat team. He also happens to be one of the best all round players in the league and one of the few who can keep up with Bron in the scoring department.

He is ahead of Kobe partly because of age. Kobe has slipped a lot in the last couple years - like I said, it looks like he's playing in slow motion. Lebron on the other hand is in his absolute prime and enjoying one of the best statistical regular seasons ever.

He is ahead of Paul and Rose simply because those two can't compete with his all round game.
So you're on of those people, eh? :facepalm I'll stop taking you seriously.

[SwooshReturns]

He just doesn't want to play here, and he's rubbed some Chicago fans the wrong way because of it. That with the fact he has proclaimed Miami has his town, he probably ain't going no where.
Naw, he definitely wanted to play here. He had like 2 or 3 meetings with management that summer. His home town roots were calling to him. His son's favorite player is LeBron, he said he didn't want to uproot his son in Miami, and his son mentioning the opportunity playing alongside LeBron was a reason he stayed ... as well as the fact Wade can easily go down as that franchise's greatest player ever. He was the only in house project superstar that stayed for the duration of his career. Miami is a tough situation to leave. And I also think he wanted to remain distance from his psycho ex who resides in Chicago.

[RRR3]

Naw, he definitely wanted to play here. His home was calling. His son's favorite player is LeBron, he said he didn't want to uproot his son in Miami, and him mentioning playing alongside LeBron was a reason he stayed ... as well as the fact Wade can easily go down as that franchise's greatest player ever. He was the only in house project superstar that stayed for the duration of his career. Miami is a tough situation to leave. And I also think he wanted to remain distance from his psycho ex who resides in Chicago.
Just curious, because I keep hearing it, but how exactly is Gabrielle Union psycho?

[SwooshReturns]

Just curious, because I keep hearing it, but how exactly is Gabrielle Union psycho?
Where did I say Gabrielle Union was psycho?

I said Wade's EX WIFE ... the mother of his children who he was in a vicious custody battle with.

She was reporting to news stations that Wade gave her STDs and it was proven in court he didn't?

She was jelly he moved on to bigger, better things and she got salty and wanted to drag his name through the mud?

There is other stories I hear about her too on occassion.

[RRR3]

She was reporting to news stations that Wade gave her STDs and it was proven in court he didn't?

She was jelly he moved on to bigger, better, things and she got salty and wanted to drag his name through the mud?

There is other stories I hear about her too on occassion.
LOL she sounds like a lunatic

[SwooshReturns]

LOL she sounds like a lunatic
I'm talking about Wade's ex wife, not his current girlfriend Gabriel Union.

[Tenchi Ryu]

I'm talking about Wade's ex wife, not his current girlfriend Gabriel Union.
Yea, I heard about her crazy ass too. That court battle they had was just nasty. I heard his kids even call Gabrielle mom, don't want to dig to deep, but maybe even the kids don't feel comfortable with their mother.

[RRR3]

I'm talking about Wade's ex wife, not his current girlfriend Gabriel Union.
Oh, whoops. Sorry man LOL @ me, I'm trying to watch the game and post at the same time. :lol

[SwooshReturns]

Yea, I heard about her crazy ass too. That court battle they had was just nasty. I heard his kids even call Gabrielle mom, don't want to dig to deep, but maybe even the kids don't feel comfortable with their mother.
Yea, she's crazy. Which lets you know another reason why Wade might not have been comfortable living here full time with her around. She's nuts. I know for a fact Wade adores the Bulls organization, and he really was smitten and contimplating coming here in 2010. If he did ... would've been EPIC. Maybe best back court since Isiah and Dumars in their primes ... maybe better.

But dude ... have you ever been to South Beach?

Go to Miami sometime ... and tell me how difficult it would be coming back to these winters and these women out here.

:oldlol:

[305Baller]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/LadyVoldything/sayitwithagif/batgif.gif

"I threw a rock at him."

[SwooshReturns]

"I threw a rock at him."
EPIC B:TAS episode.

:oldlol:

[oolalaa]

Couple of things...

1) No need for the bigger font size isn't needed. Just make a simple point and less smilies, please.

2) I'm entitled to my own opinion, I just thought you came of as trolling on a couple of things.



Right now, sir.

What is James doing right now... what happened last year is what it is... Last year.

This 2012, it's a new season and James is destroying this league right now. Are you missing out on that ?

I don't mind if you have Durant over James, but James not in the Top 2 ? I smell B.S.

And isn't that a flaw in your logic ? Durant didn't even get to the finals... so how's he number 1 ?



Again, relevant to this year ?

Dirk is getting back to form, but Top 5 ? He isn't.



Perhaps, but I think Westbrook has been more consistent and is the better two player so far this season.

Again, this season.



I didn't say it was dumb, but I think Paul over him is overrating him a bit... people overrate his defense and the Bulls offensively need Rose to do more than Paul does for him.

Not trolling, I feel you are.



While I do feel he is overrated, he has to be in Top 3-5 range. He's still an important anchor to Orlando's defense... and again.. this year.

And by going by what your saying, if he's the second option on a team he gets traded on... championship, yes ?

Anyways, you're big fonts shocked me there. :oldlol:

I don't mind if we disagree though. :cheers:

Why would you think I'm trolling when you know I'm not a troll? :confusedshrug:


It's completely farcical to ignore the past when projecting the future. This is two post seasons in a row now where he has essentially GIVEN UP. Why would I ignore this? What if he choked in the next 3 playoffs too, and then had the greatest regular season of all time in the season after? How could you possible call him the best player in the league? One choke job could very well be an anomaly. Two choke jobs? A pattern is emerging.

Durant wasn't amazingly clutch in last years playoffs but he also didn't choke an entire series away!! :lol And like I've said, he has improved from last year. I think he has taken 'the leap'. His all round game has improved, he's stepped up his defense and has become the best crunch time scorer in the league. Lebron is still uncomfortable down the stretch of tight games. This is a big issue that has yet to be resolved.

Again, why would I ignore the past when projecting the future? Dirk had one of the all time great post season runs, just last year!!

Chris Paul will go down as a borderline top 5 point guard of all time when it's all said and done (barring his knees breaking down). He could be as high as number 3. That's how good I think he is. He is the evolutionary Isiah - make everyone happy for 3 quarters and then, if needed, take over in the 4th (he is a top 5 crunch time player). He is a truly GREAT leader and insanely competitive.

Now, you will struggle to find anyone on this forum who loves Rose more than me, but I have to be objective. Paul is more composed and experienced. He is more of a pure point guard. He is more efficient form the floor. He is a little better in crunch time. These things give him the edge over Rose. It's very close. Very, very close. They have separated themselves form the point guard pack.

Yes, if Howard is your second best player you are almost guaranteed a championship.

[Legends66NBA7]

Why would you think I'm trolling when you know I'm not a troll? :confusedshrug:


It's completely farcical to ignore the past when projecting the future. This is two post seasons in a row now where he has essentially GIVEN UP. Why would I ignore this? What if he choked in the next 3 playoffs too, and then had the greatest regular season of all time in the season after? How could you possible call him the best player in the league? One choke job could very well be an anomaly. Two choke jobs? A pattern is emerging.

Durant wasn't amazingly clutch in last years playoffs but he also didn't choke an entire series away!! :lol And like I've said, he has improved from last year. I think he has taken 'the leap'. His all round game has improved, he's stepped up his defense and has become the best crunch time scorer in the league. Lebron is still uncomfortable down the stretch of tight games. This is a big issue that has yet to be resolved.

Again, why would I ignore the past when projecting the future? Dirk had one of the all time great post season runs, just last year!!

Chris Paul will go down as a borderline top 5 point guard of all time when it's all said and done (barring his knees breaking down). He could be as high as number 3. That's how good I think he is. He is the evolutionary Isiah - make everyone happy for 3 quarters and then, if needed, take over in the 4th (he is a top 5 crunch time player). He is a truly GREAT leader and insanely competitive.

Now, you will struggle to find anyone on this forum who loves Rose more than me, but I have to be objective. Paul is more composed and experienced. He is more of a pure point guard. He is more efficient form the floor. He is a little better in crunch time. These things give him the edge over Rose. It's very close. Very, very close. They have separated themselves form the point guard pack.

Yes, if Howard is your second best player you are almost guaranteed a championship.

Alright cool man, fair enough.

:cheers:

[oolalaa]

So you're on of those people, eh? :facepalm I'll stop taking you seriously.

You're completely clueless. Congratulations, that's no easy feat.

[Legends66NBA7]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/LadyVoldything/sayitwithagif/batgif.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEdg4glpCkg

:pimp:

[Tenchi Ryu]

Now I know yall ain't trying to get into that Batman TAS.....don't start nothing you ain't ready for :lol :lol :lol

[SwooshReturns]

Now I know yall ain't trying to get into that Batman TAS.....don't start nothing you ain't ready for :lol :lol :lol
Best episode ... go

[Legends66NBA7]

Best episode ... go

The episode "Two-Face" for me.

Always liked the character and that episode was pretty dark. Really good animation in that one.

The one with gif is also up there.

[SwooshReturns]

The episode "Two-Face" for me.

Always liked the character and that episode was pretty dark. Really good animation in that one.

The one with gif is also up there.
I like the image of Two-Face, and the origins of the character. But him sticking around as a re-occuring villain never made sense to me.

"Let me rob the 2nd bank of Gotham, on Febuary 2nd" type stuff ... I though the movie The Dark Knight had a much better fitting conclusion and story arc for the character that psychologically was more realistic and believable.

I too however think that is the best BTAS episode.

[Legends66NBA7]

I like the image of Two-Face, and the origins of the character. But him sticking around as a re-occuring villain never made sense to me.

"Let me rob the 2nd bank of Gotham, on Febuary 2nd" type stuff ... I though the movie The Dark Knight had a much better fitting conclusion and story arc for the character that psychologically was more realistic and believable.

I too however think that is the best BTAS episode.

Nice. :cheers:

Still waiting to see if other people got a favourite episode or even a list.

:oldlol: