Dwight to "**** over" Magic, sign with Nets in offseason

[niko]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_dwight_howard_magic_nets_trade_031312

:lol My favorite part of the article is the thought that this is a big secret as Wojo prints it in an article in Yahoo. (Dwight is secretly going to the Nets. Shh...no one knows this fact i am printing IN YAHOO.)

Methinks a trade is coming to the Nets.....

[wang4three]

Very reminiscent of the Carmelo trade. Everyone knew he wanted NYC and he eventually got it. Here's to hoping the results are the same.

8th seed, here we come!!

[k-vil]

If Dwight really wants to go to Brooklyn, why would the Nets trade for him if they can sign him this off season plus retaining their assets

[2LeTTeRS]

I seriously don't get the mindset of sports media and most fans. So we now consider star players "bad guys" for wanting to move on when their contract is up? I don't get it.

If a player goes all out for you and gives you 8 years of dedication I can't view him in a negative way for wanting to leave. I guess that makes me weird.

[REACTION]

I seriously don't get the mindset of sports media and most fans. So we now consider star players "bad guys" for wanting to move on when their contract is up? I don't get it.

If a player goes all out for you and gives you 8 years of dedication I can't view him in a negative way for wanting to leave. I guess that makes me weird.

He should let Orlando know his intentions very clearly. He shouldn't leave it up in the air and make them think they can get him to stay if they go out and bring in some expensive names before the deadline.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I seriously don't get the mindset of sports media and most fans. So we now consider star players "bad guys" for wanting to move on when their contract is up? I don't get it.

If a player goes all out for you and gives you 8 years of dedication I can't view him in a negative way for wanting to leave. I guess that makes me weird.
this is the league's problem. you wanna make right? compensate the team that loses a superstar with a couple first rounders (from whatever team said player signs with) if said player walks for nothing. problem solved.

[irondarts]

If I'm the Nets I don't even trade for him, they're not contenders this season and they shouldn't trade half their team for him if they can just sign in in the offseason.

[ZenMaster]

He should let Orlando know his intentions very clearly. He shouldn't leave it up in the air and make them think they can get him to stay if they go out and bring in some expensive names before the deadline.

Did you not read the article? Everybody but one guy says Dwight is leaving. Unfortunately that one guy is the one who needs to believe it.

[k-vil]

If I'm the Nets I don't even trade for him, they're not contenders this season and they shouldn't trade half their team for him if they can just sign in in the offseason.
This.
They are low-balling the Magic because maybe they know something that most of us don't know.

[REACTION]

Did you not read the article? Everybody but one guy says Dwight is leaving. Unfortunately that one guy is the one who needs to believe it.

But has Dwight himself said it? That's my point. Until Dwight himself definitively says what he's going to do, it's all speculation and it's all up in the air. The Magic obviously think they can get Dwight to stay by bringing in players like Monta Ellis. But if Dwight knows that he's going to leave in the summer, he should let Orlando know.

[R.I.P.]

If the Magic don

[2LeTTeRS]

He should let Orlando know his intentions very clearly. He shouldn't leave it up in the air and make them think they can get him to stay if they go out and bring in some expensive names before the deadline.


I hear you but I just don't think thats fair to ask of a person. Most people seem to not realize (or simply not care) that most star players will only be an unrestricted free agent 1 time in their careers.

Deciding what team to join is a big decision personally as well as possibly the biggest professional decision a person can make. How can you expect him to know a year in a advance what he wants to do?

PS - Hasn't Dwight already said what he would do? He said he will test free agency and explore his options, what more do you want him to say?

[Dengness9]

I have really lost all respect for Dwight, not for leaving Orl, but for how he has handled the whole thing and because his choice looks to be the Nets. I guess it doesn't matter because him and Deron and spare parts in NJ/Brooklyn won't win a championship but its cute he thinks he is good enough to be the Man on whatever team he goes to and its gonna amount to Chips. Sorry, wrong.

[k-vil]

Let's not jinx it this time. Most of us believe that Dwight will be a Net. We just dont know if this season or the next.

[wang4three]

If I'm the Nets I don't even trade for him, they're not contenders this season and they shouldn't trade half their team for him if they can just sign in in the offseason.

Let's be honest, these guys are fickle. If you let him out on the open market you run the risk of him getting wooed by another team and then changing his heart last second. If you have a chance to get him now and lock him up now, you do it immediately.

Deron is also a moving part here. If the two of them on the open market decide that Dallas is the place to be, then you **** yourself.

[Kappy]

"The Decision II" :lol

[bmulls]

Dwight + Deron + trash isn't enough to win a championship, that team can't hang with the Bulls or Heat unless they make some moves. I could see them moving Brook Lopez for Ray Allen or something though.

[niko]

Nets should make the trade simply because the Dallas option is out there. Do i think he chooses Dallas over Brooklyn? NO. But I'm not 100%, and i really think Deron likes Dallas from the way he's acted. I don't think he likes the fact Dallas can't give him that extra year though.

If you can get Howard now, why not do it? If he gets to FA and for some reason he stays, or goes to Dallas, the Nets will not only lose 1 star they would lose two.

[Kingwillball]

I have really lost all respect for Dwight, not for leaving Orl, but for how he has handled the whole thing and because his choice looks to be the Nets. I guess it doesn't matter because him and Deron and spare parts in NJ/Brooklyn won't win a championship but its cute he thinks he is good enough to be the Man on whatever team he goes to and its gonna amount to Chips. Sorry, wrong.


Nets will be able to Sign ANOTHER all star caliber Player besides D12 or Fill out team with Solid Role Players..

[Kingwillball]

Nets should make the trade simply because the Dallas option is out there. Do i think he chooses Dallas over Brooklyn? NO. But I'm not 100%, and i really think Deron likes Dallas from the way he's acted. I don't think he likes the fact Dallas can't give him that extra year though.

If you can get Howard now, why not do it? If he gets to FA and for some reason he stays, or goes to Dallas, the Nets will not only lose 1 star they would lose two.


I agree, If U can get him get him now U never know if this dude will change his mind before the FA period with the way he acts..Although the Nets would be Favorites nothing is 100% if D12 gets past the Trade Deadline.

[k-vil]

Nets should make the trade simply because the Dallas option is out there. Do i think he chooses Dallas over Brooklyn? NO. But I'm not 100%, and i really think Deron likes Dallas from the way he's acted. I don't think he likes the fact Dallas can't give him that extra year though.

If you can get Howard now, why not do it? If he gets to FA and for some reason he stays, or goes to Dallas, the Nets will not only lose 1 star they would lose two.
This also can happen if they traded for Dwight. They would not only lose two but also their assets.

[jbryan1984]

If this is true, it could not come at a better time for the Nets. If I was the mad rich Russian, I would say basically, **** a trade. They are going to get a nice draft pick too don't forget. Lets just say they draft Harrison Barnes. Next year could look like this........ Williams/Brooks/Barnes/Lopez/Howard. Pretty nice to go along with their move.

[niko]

This also can happen if they traded for Dwight. They would not only lose two but also their assets.
Both him and Dwill are not going to give up an extra year and more money to run off to Dallas together. If you create the situation where HOward can control the move with his choice, it's a much easier sell. Deron has no roots here (he rents), Howard hasn't moved yet. But if they are both here and can start making plans together, they are not moving. They just aren't.

Play the pct's.

[Dengness9]

Nets will be able to Sign ANOTHER all star caliber Player besides D12 or Fill out team with Solid Role Players..



well if the yahoo report is true, The nets are planning to resign Deron, Dwight, and Lopez in the offseason?????

How you have both Dwight and Lopez on the same roster is beyond me because they both are Centers, end of discussion.

Deron, Dwight, and solid role players isn't going to be enough is all I'm saying. I don't think the Nets are gonna sign 3 all-star/superstars in one summer. They aren't the Miami Heat and beyond Deron and Dwight, is there a 3rd all-star/superstar to be signed?

I think it should be obvious to most hardcore NBA fans that Dwight is making a monumental mistake not going to Chicago to play w/ Rose and other quality hard nosed players plus the NBA's reigning coach of the year/top defensive guru in the L. Not trying to dwell on it, just saying.

[niko]

If this is true, it could not come at a better time for the Nets. If I was the mad rich Russian, I would say basically, **** a trade. They are going to get a nice draft pick too don't forget. Lets just say they draft Harrison Barnes. Next year could look like this........ Williams/Brooks/Barnes/Lopez/Howard. Pretty nice to go along with their move.
Or Howard goes to Dallas, Deron leaves, you open in Brooklyn with no players and the fanbase consists of ten people and it takes you years to establish yourself if ever.

And if you are Billy King, you get fired. If you are Billy King and you get HOward you get praise. If you wait till offseason you get praise. His motivation to wait is what?

[jbryan1984]

well if the yahoo report is true, The nets are planning to resign Deron, Dwight, and Lopez in the offseason?????

How you have both Dwight and Lopez on the same roster is beyond me because they both are Centers, end of discussion.

Deron, Dwight, and solid role players isn't going to be enough is all I'm saying. I don't think the Nets are gonna sign 3 all-star/superstars in one summer. They aren't the Miami Heat and beyond Deron and Dwight, is there a 3rd all-star/superstar to be signed?



Twin Towers has been done so many times in the NBA. Its nothing new and gives you a big advantage on boards.

[niko]

well if the yahoo report is true, The nets are planning to resign Deron, Dwight, and Lopez in the offseason?????

How you have both Dwight and Lopez on the same roster is beyond me because they both are Centers, end of discussion.

Deron, Dwight, and solid role players isn't going to be enough is all I'm saying. I don't think the Nets are gonna sign 3 all-star/superstars in one summer. They aren't the Miami Heat and beyond Deron and Dwight, is there a 3rd all-star/superstar to be signed?

I think it should be obvious to most hardcore NBA fans that Dwight is making a monumental mistake not going to Chicago to play w/ Rose and other quality hard nosed players plus the NBA's reigning coach of the year/top defensive guru in the L.
i don't like Lopez/Dwight at all. Lopez clogs the lane for Dwight, is slow and in the way, and there is still the chance he has a recurrance of the foot problems. I find it puzzling they want to keep him so bad, it's not like he will be cheap.

[Dengness9]

If this is true, it could not come at a better time for the Nets. If I was the mad rich Russian, I would say basically, **** a trade. They are going to get a nice draft pick too don't forget. Lets just say they draft Harrison Barnes. Next year could look like this........ Williams/Brooks/Barnes/Lopez/Howard. Pretty nice to go along with their move.


Brook Lopez can't play the PF position. He isn't anywhere mobile enough and he is a terrible rebounder for his size.

[EnoughSaid]

I think the Nets would be very dangerous. As long as they manage to keep Brooks and Humphries (VERY UNDERRATED PLAYER) they'll be fine. D-Will and Dwight would be nasty too :))

[niko]

Note: No one knows for sure what he's going to do. It's easy to say "Nets should wait" because you are not going to be fired like Billy King would, or be totally ****ed like the owner would if somehow Dwight doesn't come. You get to say "oh i was wrong" on a message board.

Nets are nuts if they don't make a deal if they are approached to do so.

[Dengness9]

Twin Towers has been done so many times in the NBA. Its nothing new and gives you a big advantage on boards.


If you want to compare other twin towers of the past to a possible Lopez/Dwight duo id love to hear it.

Brook Lopez didn't even average 7 rebounds per game last year. How will Brook fair trying to guard stretch 4's?

Exactly. It aint happenin' brah'

[jbryan1984]

utah has their first round pick from the d-will trade



Forgot about that.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Twin Towers has been done so many times in the NBA. Its nothing new and gives you a big advantage on boards.
Way to go out on a limb there.

[LBJMVP]

what if the NBA had a franchise tag?

[k-vil]

Both him and Dwill are not going to give up an extra year and more money to run off to Dallas together. If you create the situation where HOward can control the move with his choice, it's a much easier sell. Deron has no roots here (he rents), Howard hasn't moved yet. But if they are both here and can start making plans together, they are not moving. They just aren't.

Play the pct's.
Deron being in love with Dallas just make it more of a rental to Dwight, if they do traded for him. Dwight will not stay if he knows that Dwill will go to Dallas. Deron is not a 100% sure thing even if the Nets traded for Dwight or they guarantee that they will do whatever it takes to sign Dwight in the off season. But still a possibility that they will both plan to sign with Nets and move to Brooklyn.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

what if the NBA had a franchise tag?
you'd think they would have figured out something during the last cba.

[chips93]

Brook Lopez can't play the PF position. He isn't anywhere mobile enough and he is a terrible rebounder for his size.

dwight is mobile enough to guard either 4s or 5s, lopez could just guard whichever big he matches up best with.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Deron being in love with Dallas just make it more of a rental to Dwight, if they do traded for him. Dwight will not stay if he knows that Dwill will go to Dallas. Deron is not a 100% sure thing even if the Nets traded for Dwight or they guarantee that they will do whatever it takes to sign Dwight in the off season. But still a possibility that they will both plan to sign with Nets and move to Brooklyn.
Doubt they make the move if there is even a 1% chance of dwight bolting.

[niko]

Deron being in love with Dallas just make it more of a rental to Dwight, if they do traded for him. Dwight will not stay if he knows that Dwill will go to Dallas. Deron is not a 100% sure thing even if the Nets traded for Dwight or they guarantee that they will do whatever it takes to sign Dwight in the off season. But still a possibility that they will both plan to sign with Nets and move to Brooklyn.

There are no guarantees, but that doesn't mean every scenario has the same odds. You are basically saying a worst case scenario is still possible, thefore the Nets shouldn't do things that give them an advantage. That makes no sense at all.

[jbryan1984]

What can I say, I don't watch much Nets games but Brook has done a little better in the past. And like my Cavs buddy said, Dwight can play the 4 then. Its not like having two bigs in the starting lineup is a bad thing. You Nets fans always over praise Brook anyway, keep Kris then. Either way, if Dwight goes there, Brooklyn is going to be an awesome team.

[D12"Magic"]

Guy's Nets still have their first rounder for this year, we only gave up last year's pick and GSW. SO yes a lottery pick is what we have as of now.

And from what we are hearing , the plan is to form a set of Twin Tower's with Lopez and Howard. BK is trying his best to shed more salary and expect guy's like Farmar gone to shed salary.

Our starting Line-up could consist of Deron-Brooks-Barnes-Lopez-Howard which would be a dream come true.

I don't think Net Fans are mad at us possibly playing Lopez along D12, we know what Lopez can do and Howard can definitely cover Lopez's weaknesses.

Woj trying to expose our petential plan :no:

[k-vil]

If this is true, it could not come at a better time for the Nets. If I was the mad rich Russian, I would say basically, **** a trade. They are going to get a nice draft pick too don't forget. Lets just say they draft Harrison Barnes. Next year could look like this........ Williams/Brooks/Barnes/Lopez/Howard. Pretty nice to go along with their move.
If Dwight and Deron is a sure thing (and i'm assuming that they are 100% sure will sign D12 in the offseason) I will trade Brook Lopez for a SF and resign Humphries in the off season.

[Pra]

Call up GSW & NO...

Ship Howard + filler to GSW!

Get Kaman & Monta in ORL lol

NO can get some decent assets!

[niko]

Guy's Nets still have their first rounder for this year, we only gave up last year's pick and GSW. SO yes a lottery pick is what we have as of now.

And from what we are hearing , the plan is to form a set of Twin Tower's with Lopez and Howard. BK is trying his best to shed more salary and expect guy's like Farmar gone to shed salary.

Our starting Line-up could consist of Deron-Brooks-Barnes-Lopez-Howard which would be a dream come true.

I don't think Net Fans are mad at us possibly playing Lopez along D12, we know what Lopez can do and Howard can definitely cover Lopez's weaknesses.
i don't like the Lopez/Howard thing at all, it's going to be this big plodding guy in HOward's way. You need to spread the ball a bit. Brooks is not a standtill shooter guy, he's a move and shoot. More balance.

still think about this conversation i am starting with you and you should be very happy.

[Dengness9]

dwight is mobile enough to guard either 4s or 5s, lopez could just guard whichever big he matches up best with.


C'mon man, Dwight isnt gonna be roaming the perimeter guarding guys like(for example) Ryan Anderson, Kevin Love, etc.


Dwight is a 5 who needs to be down low at all times for off rebound opportunities, and of course on defense for boards and blks or to at least alter shots of players driving the lane.

Not trying to give you a hard time but I just strongly disagree with what you're saying my man.

[boozehound]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_dwight_howard_magic_nets_trade_031312

:lol My favorite part of the article is the thought that this is a big secret as Wojo prints it in an article in Yahoo. (Dwight is secretly going to the Nets. Shh...no one knows this fact i am printing IN YAHOO.)

Methinks a trade is coming to the Nets.....
I really dont understand how he is ****ing over the magic. They know hes gone (or should), so ****ing move him already. Sure, he may be denying Chi (idiot), but there is certainly a trade involving NJ and another team that is worth doing.

[D12"Magic"]

i don't like the Lopez/Howard thing at all, it's going to be this big plodding guy in HOward's way. You need to spread the ball a bit. Brooks is not a standtill shooter guy, he's a move and shoot. More balance.

still think about this conversation i am starting with you and you should be very happy.
I actually like it to be honest and i think it will make for a beastly combo, But I will trade Lopez for J-Smith why not, work's for the Hawks and the Nets.

[niko]

I really dont understand how he is ****ing over the magic. They know hes gone (or should), so ****ing move him already. Sure, he may be denying Chi (idiot), but there is certainly a trade involving NJ and another team that is worth doing.
I don't think he is but Wojo wrote it in the article so i wrote it. :D Not my opinion per se...

[novocaine]

If i was the Magic i would ****in ship him to the Pistons or some other crappy team, just to piss D12 off.

[GOBB]

Lame Dwight only wants to go to NJ. Ah well, go Sixers!


If Dwight and Deron is a sure thing (and i'm assuming that they are 100% sure will sign D12 in the offseason) I will trade Brook Lopez for a SF and resign Humphries in the off season.

This...if not resign Kris Kardashian I believe Ryan Anderson is a FA (have to check). Is so? Sign Ryan Anderson who compliments Dwight Howard well. If his price is too much for the NJN, then resign Kris Kardashian.

[niko]

Lame Dwight only wants to go to NJ. Ah well, go Sixers!



This...if not resign Kris Kardashian I believe Ryan Anderson is a FA (have to check). Is so? Sign Ryan Anderson who compliments Dwight Howard well. If his price is too much for the NJN, then resign Kris Kardashian.
The problem is the Nets will need to reject Hump's rights in almost any scenario to keep Dwight because his cap hold is high. Ryan Anderson is a FA but he has bird rights in ORlando and money talks.

There will be lots of complimentary options for the Nets, Lopez to me is a strange fit, big, slow and needs the ball in the post which is what Howard wants to do.

[k-vil]

There are no guarantees, but that doesn't mean every scenario has the same odds. You are basically saying a worst case scenario is still possible, thefore the Nets shouldn't do things that give them an advantage. That makes no sense at all.
Anything is possible and anything can happen at the very last minute. Remember last year that Melo to Nets was a sure thing and see what happened. Lets not jinx it this time

[niko]

Anything is possible and anything can happen at the very last minute. Remember last year that Melo to Nets was a sure thing and see what happened. Lets not jinx it this time
Howard will 100% definitely go to the Nets. 100% Definitely Definitely. :lol 100%. 100 FREAKING PERCENT! I swear it on Ric Bucher's immortal soul.

[chips93]

C'mon man, Dwight isnt gonna be roaming the perimeter guarding guys like(for example) Ryan Anderson, Kevin Love, etc.


Dwight is a 5 who needs to be down low at all times for off rebound opportunities, and of course on defense for boards and blks or to at least alter shots of players driving the lane.

well, most teams dont have 3pt gunners like anderson and love, so its not like every night, dwight will be forced into guarding 4s.

im not saying that its ideal, defensively, but sometimes getting the talent out onto the floor, trumps fit.


Not trying to give you a hard time but I just strongly disagree with what you're saying my man.

dont worry about it, im just happy to talk about actual basketball once in a while, rather than what lebron ate for breakfast.

[I<3NBA]

If i was the Magic i would ****in ship him to the Pistons or some other crappy team, just to piss D12 off.
what will that do? Dwight will just wait and re-sign somewhere else.

[D12"Magic"]

Hump is gonna get huge offer's, we aren't gonna try to match nothing, he is gone, get that cash fella.
We have a lottery pick in the draft, so a sf or PF would be nice. preferably Davis, Barnes or T-Rob. Stern better give us at least the 2nd pick after us missing out on J.Wall. :D

[niko]

well, most teams dont have 3pt gunners like anderson and love, so its not like every night, dwight will be forced into guarding 4s.

im not saying that its ideal, defensively, but sometimes getting the talent out onto the floor, trumps fit.



dont worry about it, im just happy to talk about actual basketball once in a while, rather than what lebron ate for breakfast.
cheerios, but once he got to the last one he got nervous and had wade finish the ball.

[k-vil]

Lame Dwight only wants to go to NJ. Ah well, go Sixers!



This...if not resign Kris Kardashian I believe Ryan Anderson is a FA (have to check). Is so? Sign Ryan Anderson who compliments Dwight Howard well. If his price is too much for the NJN, then resign Kris Kardashian.
And Lamar Odom is a free agent this off season, the Nets should sign him too...:rockon:

[niko]

Hump is gonna get huge offer's, we aren't gonna try to match nothing, he is gone, get that cash fella.
We have a lottery pick in the draft, so a sf or PF would be nice. preferably Davis, Barnes or T-Rob. Stern better give us at least the 2nd pick after us missing out on J.Wall. :D
you need to trade for Howard, he's a bit immature to assume he can't be swayed to change his mind in the next few months. I am very confident he'll be a net in the next two days, if you tell me he goes to FA, i don't think it's a lock anymore.

[Punpun]

So.. The Nets are one of the worst team in the league. Assured to have a great pick like I dunno davis. Add to him Williams, Brook lopez as backup and D12. Damn that's one beastly team.

[niko]

I actually like it to be honest and i think it will make for a beastly combo, But I will trade Lopez for J-Smith why not, work's for the Hawks and the Nets.
i'm rooting for you btw.
1) It doesn't affect me honestly.
2) I have a bunch of Net fan friends who will be distraught.
3) it puts shitloads of pressure on the Knicks to right the ship. Absolute shitloads. If we were good, and Nets would be better, that would bother me. But we SUCK. We need to do a culture rebuild, and the NEts getting front pages would force that. I'm at that point.

[k-vil]

i'm rooting for you btw.
1) It doesn't affect me honestly.
2) I have a bunch of Net fan friends who will be distraught.
3) it puts shitloads of pressure on the Knicks to right the ship. Absolute shitloads. If we were good, and Nets would be better, that would bother me. But we SUCK. We need to do a culture rebuild, and the NEts getting front pages would force that. I'm at that point.
:rockon:

[chips93]

iirc utah owns that pick


utah has their first round pick from the d-will trade

my bad

new jersey sent utah two picks; their own from the 2011 draft (kanter), and golden state's for this upcoming draft (top 7 protected)

sorry for the confusion

[D12"Magic"]

:facepalm WE STILL HAVE OUR OWN 2012 FIRST ROUNDER and the Rocket's Pick, WE ONLY GAVE UP LAST YEAR"S PICK AND GSW's 2012 pick
iirc utah owns that pick
Edit: I See you addressed the situation up top

And niko, the chances we land Howard in FA are high if he is a free agent. You never know though, he could still change his mind your right though.

If Net's are lowballing they must have gotten an answer from Howard. SVG and Otis want to trade Howard but Ownership doesn't. I hope Howard is traded here thursday.

[niko]

:facepalm Learn your fact's please, WE STILL HAVE OUR OWN 2012 FIRST ROUNDER and the Rocket's Pick, WE ONLY GAVE UP LAST YEAR"S PICK AND GSW's 2012 pick

And niko, the chances we land Howard in FA are high if he is a free agent. You never know though, he could still change his mind your right though.

If Net's are lowballing they must have gotten an answer from Howard. SVG and Otis want to trade Howard but Ownership doesn't. I hope Howard is traded here thursday.
i always take specific details (nets are lowballing etc.) with a grain of salt. No one has access to those details except very specific people. The specifics, like Howard wants Brooklyn i believe.

[Faberg]

I really hope he goes to the Nets.

[D12"Magic"]

i always take specific details (nets are lowballing etc.) with a grain of salt. No one has access to those details except very specific people. The specifics, like Howard wants Brooklyn i believe.
Im not gonna lie, I want the Knick's to suck. :lol Nothing personal though.

[swi7ch]

He should let Orlando know his intentions very clearly. He shouldn't leave it up in the air and make them think they can get him to stay if they go out and bring in some expensive names before the deadline.

he wears a "i heart derron" t shirts during practice. i think that is clear enough what his intentions are :facepalm

[ILLsmak]

Be interesting to see how he plays with an elite PG.

-Smak

[niko]

Im not gonna lie, I want the Knick's to suck. :lol Nothing personal though.
We do so there you go

[boozehound]

If i was the Magic i would ****in ship him to the Pistons or some other crappy team, just to piss D12 off.
sounds great to me! They can have BG and CV for him, straight up. Even if he walks at the end of the year, I am one happy camper.

[D12"Magic"]

The Nets' plan is to sign Dwight Howard outright this summer, re-sign Deron Williams and re-sign Brook Lopez on an annual salary of approximately $10 million, according to sources.
Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports
....

[gasolina]

I wish he goes to the Nets... so I can get those Adipower Howard 2's in Red White and Blue colors.

Seriously though, Lopez is one of the slowest big men out there. I'm not sold on how Howard/Lopez could work because none of them can really operate off the high post. But I'd still re-sign him as an asset to trade.

[chips93]

I wish he goes to the Nets... so I can get those Adipower Howard 2's in Red White and Blue colors.

Seriously though, Lopez is one of the slowest big men out there. I'm not sold on how Howard/Lopez could work because none of them can really operate off the high post. But I'd still re-sign him as an asset to trade.

i dont watch much nets games (who does?) but i thought that lopez was a nice mid range shooter, and could play in the high post.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I wish he goes to the Nets... so I can get those Adipower Howard 2's in Red White and Blue colors.

Seriously though, Lopez is one of the slowest big men out there. I'm not sold on how Howard/Lopez could work because none of them can really operate off the high post. But I'd still re-sign him as an asset to trade.
bingo

[D12"Magic"]

i dont watch much nets games (who does?) but i thought that lopez was a nice mid range shooter, and could play in the high post.
Bingo

[gasolina]

i dont watch much nets games (who does?) but i thought that lopez was a nice mid range shooter, and could play in the high post.
Yeah he can be a jump shooter, but do you want him to be that way?

The reason Pau/Bynum worked was that Pau had the skillset (passing, dribbling, jumpshot) to complement Andrew. Lopez doesn't have all that. In fact, I would even count on Lopez to score in the post more than Dwight.

But still, if the Nets had a chance, re-sign Lopez and flip him out for someone like Josh Smith.

[BlueandGold]

Eh, it's a business move, the best ones always involving ****ing over other people. Imagine how many times a player has gotten ****ed on his contract compared to something like this happening, which only happens to the highest level talent in the league (1% or less of the league).

[Smoke117]

what will that do? Dwight will just wait and re-sign somewhere else.

He obviously didn't think that one through.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Well Id like him to sign with us during offseason too, or we are in no better situation than the Knicks after trading for Melo while giving up half of their team.

[R.I.P.]

The Nets' plan is to sign Dwight Howard outright this summer, re-sign Deron Williams and re-sign Brook Lopez on an annual salary of approximately $10 million, according to sources.
Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports ....

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[D12"Magic"]

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[Kiddlovesnets]

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[Qwyjibo]

If this is going to happen regardless of how the Nets perform this season they should tank hard the rest of the way. Even if they lose Deron, adding a top 5 pick and Dwight Howard to your team would be an incredible off-season. Plus you'd already have a couple decent players on the roster in guys like Lopez, Brooks and Morrow.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Even if they lose Deron, adding a top 5 pick and Dwight Howard to your team would be an incredible off-season.

Well theres no way we add Dwight while losing Deron, these two are bounded together so its all or nothing for us. Though I completely agree that we can make use of the draft picks regardless of whether Deron stays or not.

[D12"Magic"]

If this is going to happen regardless of how the Nets perform this season they should tank hard the rest of the way. Even if they lose Deron, adding a top 5 pick and Dwight Howard to your team would be an incredible off-season. Plus you'd already have a couple decent players on the roster in guys like Lopez, Brooks and Morrow.
Deron may miss his 3rd game tomorrow with a minor injury, so that help's our pick

[Whoah10115]

Dwight + Deron + trash isn't enough to win a championship, that team can't hang with the Bulls or Heat unless they make some moves. I could see them moving Brook Lopez for Ray Allen or something though.



Maybe. Then again, you're saying something about Ray Allen and the Nets have Marshon Brooks, who is a beast. So they don't need Ray Allen.




A trade...I don't know...the thing for me is that he won't go to Dallas, period. I could legitimately see him end up in Philly, for whatever reason. I could see him realize how good a spot Houston would be and end up in Houston. I can see him in Brooklyn. I can see him staying in Orlando. And that last one is more serious than people want to acknowledge. He clearly would like to stay in Orlando and the issue is that they are tied up with moronic contracts (and when they start to get loose, they re-sign Jason Richardson for FIVE years?!).



But if Orlando pulled off something like Hedo, Jameer, Duhon for Joe Johnson and Jason Collins...maybe Atlanta gets out of Johnson's contract, knowing Jameer can opt out knowing that Turk will only have 2 years left on his, and Duhon can be solid again as a backup...maybe even get a 1st round pick. And Orlando, tho overpaying, will at least be overpaying for one guy who is a great 2nd or 3rd banana and whose contract is less than the combined 3 outgoing, while Collins is expiring.



Nelson can play alongside Teague as one of two combo guards, or he can be a spark off the bench. If he sucks, he doesn't play and opts out. If he's good, he's worth playing or a very tradeable expiring contract.

[longtime lurker]

So will the Nets trade for him? Only reason I ask is because Deron staying seems to be based on cause and effect. If they don't get him help in the form of Howard he might bolt to Dallas anyways, if he bolts to Dallas Howard will follow. Why not secure him now, just not give the farm for him ala the Knicks. Give up one of Brooks or Lopez and 1 of the picks.

[Mavsfan31]

Doesn't make sense. He said he didnt want to go to Chicago because it's cold? It's cold in Brooklyn too...They still wont win.

[longtime lurker]

Doesn't make sense. He said he didnt want to go to Chicago because it's cold? It's cold in Brooklyn too...They still wont win.

Dwight isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. I think he's scared of expectations if he goes to Chicago, Boston or the Lakers. That Chicago trade would have been epic, but I think he'd rather have low expectations on the Nets(no offense Nets fans)

[talkingconch]

If Howard is moved before Thursday, and Magic officials are putting it at 50-50, only the Nets and Lakers are factors because those are two of the three teams (Dallas the other) on Howard's list. Anyone else is merely renting him for two months, three if they're lucky.

The best trade is Howard to the Bulls for Luol Deng and Joakim Noah, or Howard to Oklahoma City for Russell Westbrook, because those deals help everyone involved and will put Howard with a potential championship winner. That's why he wants to leave Orlando, right? Well, those deals won't be made unless Howard signs long-term, and he's given no indication that he's dying to be teammates with Kevin Durant or Derrick Rose (imagine that).

Does Howard really want NJ? lmfao

[D12"Magic"]

Does Howard really want NJ? lmfao
What is so funny about wanting to play in the biggest market along with Deron Williams? I dont get the joke

[talkingconch]

What is so funny about wanting to play in the biggest market along with Deron Williams? I dont get the joke
Look at the description. If he really wanted to win he could have gone to Chicago or Oklahoma city and Orlando would be in a good situation as well.

[D12"Magic"]

Look at the description. If he really wanted to win he could have gone to Chicago or Oklahoma city and Orlando would be in a good situation as well.
Maybe he want's to be the man, he won't be the number 1 option on either of those team's. There is an apparent $400 Million Adidas deal waiting for him in NY.

I do think Bull's would be his best option as championship's go but as a Net fan I don't mind him picking the Nets :D

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

What is so funny about wanting to play in the biggest market along with Deron Williams? I dont get the joke
the real shows in NY are; Giants, Yanks, Knicks then you'll have your Jets, Mets and Nets. So this market you speak of is an exaggeration imo.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Maybe he want's to be the man, he won't be the number 1 option on either of those team's. There is an apparent $400 Million Adidas deal waiting for him in NY.

I do think Bull's would be his best option as championship's go but as a Net fan I don't mind him picking the Nets :D
probably a $400 million Nike deal waiting for him in LA. You know d!ck imo.

[bmulls]

The Nets will always be the Knicks' little brother. Knicks are the old money of New York, like the Celtics and Lakers. The franchise is pure NBA history.

[Kiddlovesnets]

The Nets will always be the Knicks' little brother. Knicks are the old money of New York, like the Celtics and Lakers. The franchise is pure NBA history.

lol, it is such an insult to compare Knicks to Celtics and LA Lakers...
:facepalm

[D12"Magic"]

probably a $400 million Nike deal waiting for him in LA. You know d!ck imo.
I never said I had any insider info it was posted by a Magic Beat writer don't be so butt-hurt

[Suckafree]

The Nets will always be the Knicks' little brother. Knicks are the old money of New York, like the Celtics and Lakers. The franchise is pure NBA history.

lolwut

[Zenji]

The Nets will always be the Knicks' little brother. Knicks are the old money of New York, like the Celtics and Lakers. The franchise is pure NBA history.


The Knicks are a joke. :facepalm

[blacknapalm]

dwight's been really fickle with this whole process. i think he doesn't want to offend anybody but that's just what happens. now, does orlando trade him or sink like the titanic and watch him walk off in the offseason? i think there's very little chance he stays with orlando so if they don't trade him, they're just being naive

[CLTHornets4eva]

I seriously don't get the mindset of sports media and most fans. So we now consider star players "bad guys" for wanting to move on when their contract is up? I don't get it.

If a player goes all out for you and gives you 8 years of dedication I can't view him in a negative way for wanting to leave. I guess that makes me weird.

Its because the NFL has a franchise tag, and MLB has arbitration. NBA is so star driven it allows players to go wherever they want.

[Qwyjibo]

Its because the NFL has a franchise tag, and MLB has arbitration. NBA is so star driven it allows players to go wherever they want.
Not really. Restricted free agency makes it VERY risky for star players to leave the team that drafted them. I can't think of a single high profile player that took the 1-year qualifying offer to become an unrestricted free agent afterwards. I think Tyson Chandler might have with Chicago? I can't remember. But he was hardly a star. It just doesn't happen.

In the NBA, if you draft a star player then you basically have a 6-7 year window to not **** up building a contender around them. You basically have the player for pretty much most of their "prime" years. If you can't get it done, then you can only blame yourself for the player leaving. Although Orlando is clearly a good team, it's still Dwight's decision and if he doesn't like the situation in Orlando, tough break. That's all you can say.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

What I'm hearing is Magic got left outside looking in on the Monta trade.....

Everything was set up for a 3 way but Magic FO wanted reassurances from Dwight before taking on LT salary. They held the trade over D12's head saying its a done deal if he commits.

Dwight felt painted in a corner and got angry. Had a shouting match on the phone w Otis. Magic tried to stall things and Lacob started posturing to the media. GSW and MIL got impatient and figured a way to work it out w/o ORL.

Bottom line--couldn't get D12 to commit past this year and the trade happened w/o them. Ladies and Gentlemen, we got screwed.....


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[niko]

The Knicks are a joke. :facepalm
The Knicks are still a huge story in the market. The Nets if good could be the backpage for a few years, but the Knicks will still sell out, and if decent, will be a bigger story. It's just the way it is.

And before Net fans call bullshit be real. It doesn't matter how good you are, the city loves the Knicks. We won 7 freaking games in a row and it was like the greatest thing ever, the whole freaking city embraced us. SEVEN GAMES.

[niko]

probably a $400 million Nike deal waiting for him in LA. You know d!ck imo.
or a $250M deal in Brooklyn, like i read. Just saying and all...

[Nelson14]

**** that

[GatorKid117]

David Baumann ‏ @DavidBaumann33
Dwight Howard told management to keep him here for the rest of the season and roll the dice on him.


Trade him.

[niko]

He can't dictate terms like that. Keep me and let me **** you over.

I don't get how he played all of this, ultimately he'd get his way anyway but he did it in a way that is making him look kind of dickish, and he's not.

[niko]

BTW, this is being misreported i think. Basically when asked by reporters he said "i want to stay the remainder of the year" as a question. Stein reports it like its a demand to Magic ownership.

[305Baller]

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one...last time... and I'm out.