2012 Trade Deadline Deal: Gerald Wallace to the Nets

[AirTupac]

Trade completed:

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=9443

[ZHAKIDD532]

Depending on the price that's not a bad deal at all. I like Gerald Wallace.

[zac]

Maybe for like Farmar and Morrow or something? Portland still needs a PG but Wallace has to get them more than just Farmar and no way he gets them Deron.

[AirTupac]

Jamal Crawford better not be involved... for Lakers sake

[ZHAKIDD532]

Why would the Nets want Jamal Crawford? I don't understand where that's coming from. Makes no sense. Gerald Wallace does.

[AirTupac]

Why would the Nets want Jamal Crawford? I don't understand where that's coming from. Makes no sense. Gerald Wallace does.

Just reading all these twitter updates of other teams supposedly interested in Jamal now.


ALSO

The Nets and Blazers are "close" on a deal for Gerald Wallace, two league sources tell Y!

[Sarcastic]

Nets should go for Paul Pierce.

[dbugz]

Deron's request? hmmm

[ZHAKIDD532]

It's sounding like this deal is a go. I still haven't heard what Nets would be giving up though.

[D-Rose]

It's sounding like this deal is a go. I still haven't heard what Nets would be giving up though.
Most likely decent draft picks and filler players.

[ZHAKIDD532]

I'd rather hold on to the picks in this draft quite frankly. I guess we'll see.

[Myth]

Two 1st round picks to Portland please.

[AirTupac]

Nets are close to sending Mehmet Okur, Shawne Williams and a protected 1st round pick to Portland for Gerald Wallace, league sources tell Y!

[ZHAKIDD532]

So basically, it's Gerald Wallace for a protected 1st rounder. I can live with that.

[tpols]

Whats the point? This isnt convincing Deron to stay at all. This better not be this years pick:facepalm

[Whoah10115]

One of the better players in the league. A terrific defender, who blocks shots like a 4 and gets steals like a guard. He can rebound like a PF.



This is not a a little trade. Gerald Wallace is a great player. Gerald Green has been looking very good tho. Either way, it's Gerald Wallace.


They have Brooks and they have that Deron guy right now. They also have Lopez. Lopez is gonna get more than 6 or even 7RPG. He's gonna score.


The Nets have a legitimately good team. And it's not worth waiting around on a draft pick. Wallace makes you wanna stay. Because he's a great player.

[InspiredLebowski]

This thing official yet?

[niko]

This thing official yet?
No. I'd think it would not be because Blazers?nets may want to make it bigger to include Crawford if Blazers can't get LA deal done.

[christian1923]

Thats all the blazers are getting?

Im sure another team can offer someething better. just throwing this guy away :facepalm

[AirTupac]

I think it's official

Confirmed: NJ would send expiring contract of injured center Mehmet Okur, Shawne Williamd and a first-round pick to Portland for Wallace.

[alenleomessi]

wtf are the blazers thinking :facepalm

[niko]

I think it's official

Confirmed: NJ would send expiring contract of injured center Mehmet Okur, Shawne Williamd and a first-round pick to Portland for Wallace.

i think he means it's confirmed that is what NJ is giving up. Yes, it's stupid he wrote "confirmed".

[AirTupac]

i think he means it's confirmed that is what NJ is giving up. Yes, it's stupid he wrote "confirmed".

I think you may be right.

[Myth]

Where does the pick land?

And this opens up cap space for Portland and lands them a pick, so it is not terrible for Portland.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Nets get Gerald Wallace!

http://www.netsdaily.com/

They gave up scrubs:cheers:

[AirTupac]

Can a mod update title then

[chazzy]

When did Gerald Wallace's trade value plummet like this? His past two trades involved expirings and late picks

[Kingwillball]

No Big get as Gerald Green has been Balling.. Nothing that is going to change balance of Power in East or Convince Dwill to stay.. Hopefully NEts have more up there sleeve than this..

[Black Joker]

The proposed 2012 draft pick the Nets would send to Blazers in Wallace deal would be protected only through the top 3 spots, sources tell Y!

[MeLO MvP 15]

Damn. That's a steal for New Jersey. It also puts them in position for 2013 cap space, right? Heeeeeeey Dwight!

[MeLO MvP 15]

The proposed 2012 draft pick the Nets would send to Blazers in Wallace deal would be protected only through the top 3 spots, sources tell Y!
Oh it's NJ's pick?

Then it's not too bad for Portland. That could be pretty high.

[ZHAKIDD532]

It's the 2012 Pick, protected only for Top 3. I'm sorry that's just idiotic...

[Droid101]

It's the 2012 Pick, protected only for Top 3. I'm sorry that's just idiotic...
I don't think picks should be allowed to be protected. You should have to roll the dice.

[niko]

WTF are the Nets thinking?

[GatorKid117]

Panic move.

[Reverend Hoops]

WTF are the Nets thinking?

Last ditch to keep Deron.

[Pursuer]

So much for a quiet deadline.

[niko]

Last ditch to keep Deron.
If that picks up 4 to 8 in this draft you can get a bigger impact player than Gerald Wallace. I love Wallace's game (everyone does) but he's not a star player, and the way he plays, he's ten seconds away from his year being over at all times.

The pickup if the pick is protected through maybe 10, or the Nets other pick made sense. This does not. Sorry...

[It's A VC3!!!]

You dumbass Billy King. The Nets are currently the 6th worst team, leaving them with an overall 6th pick possibly. That will go to the Blazers. :banghead: With a great draft class this is the perfect example of making a trade JUST to make a trade.

[goldenryan]

Kiddlovenet and duderonomy must both be suicide watch:roll:

[LockoutOver11]

ew

[Whoah10115]

The only concern I have was that Gerald Green looks like a legit player (good job Lakers, if you had first dibs).


Who were they gonna land in the draft? They don't need anyone in the backcourt. They're unlikely to net Barnes. They have little chance of netting Anthony Davis. Maybe a 4, and let Humphries go?


Honest question. If you're the Nets, who are you looking at in the draft?

[niko]

if you wanted an indication they are not sure Deron is staying, here you go.

[PHaYze]

What a putrid trade for the Nets.

I thought they weren't gonna make any more stupid deals.

[Reverend Hoops]

If that picks up 4 to 8 in this draft you can get a bigger impact player than Gerald Wallace. I love Wallace's game (everyone does) but he's not a star player, and the way he plays, he's ten seconds away from his year being over at all times.

The pickup if the pick is protected through maybe 10, or the Nets other pick made sense. This does not. Sorry...

Completely agree. I think it is a horrible move.

[chazzy]

Wait it's only top 3 protected?? Wow this is a great draft class...

[Optimus Prime]

This trade doesn't make a whole lot of sense...Wallace doesn't get the Nets out of the toilet.

[Clutch]

Nets desperate to keep D-Will.

At the end they will lose both D-Will and young talent (1st round pick).

Do your really think Deron will stay because of Gerald Wallace. Are you kidding me ? GERALD ****ING WALLACE

He's a good player but he's not a player you bring in to make your superstar stay.

[It's A VC3!!!]

The Nets pick will either be 4-8. Please David Stern out of all the years you have rigged the draft, rig it again in favor of the Nets.

[ZHAKIDD532]

Deron Williams
MarShon Brooks
Gerald Wallace
Kris Humphries
Brook Lopez

When healthy that's actually a really nice lineup. The problem is 4 of those 5 guys can/will be free agents at the end of the year...

[R.I.P.]

Doesn

[PHaYze]

Getting Crash only makes the chances that it's not 1-3 go up and up.

Stupid new jersey.

[Lebron23]

The Nets pick will either be 4-8. Please David Stern out of all the years you have rigged the draft, rig it again in favor of the Nets.


Thomas Robinson will be a solid first round pick in the 2012 NBA Draft.

[ZHAKIDD532]

The Nets pick will either be 4-8. Please David Stern out of all the years you have rigged the draft, rig it again in favor of the Nets.
Help us out like you helped out the Bulls. Chicago just so happens to jump from #9 to #1 the same year Derrick Rose comes out? Yeah OK...

[BlackVVaves]

The proposed 2012 draft pick the Nets would send to Blazers in Wallace deal would be protected only through the top 3 spots, sources tell Y!

WHAT ARE THE NETS THINKING???:facepalm

You tank this season, you get a top pic, you build through the draft a la OKC, with or without Deron. You don't mortgage your future on a player that is gonna help you NOT get a top pick, who is not nearly enough to keep Deron. :facepalm

[It's A VC3!!!]

Help us out like you helped out the Bulls. Chicago just so happens to jump from #9 to #1 the same year Derrick Rose comes out? Yeah OK...

The 3rd to 6th worst teams in the NBA will virtually have the same amount of ping pong balls. It's up for grabs for anyone. I am deeply hoping the Nets get a top 3 pick, or this horendous season will be a complete failure if we give up our pick.

[BlackVVaves]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Whoah10115]

Edit:



I thought the Nets had gotten better, but they're apparently still one of the 6 worst...should have realized that. Then it makes you wonder how smart a trade this is.



It all depends on which pick they give up. Is it official?

[Qwyjibo]

This trade is great news for Toronto and every single other team that's tanking for a draft pick.

Unless there are other big moves ahead, this doesn't make too much sense for New Jersey though.

[KingJames99]

LOL really nets? this is retarded they aren't going to make the playoffs over the bucks/knicks and there pick is gonna be like 4-10 in a stacked draft ****ing dumb. Alot of good players that could be taken from 4-10 like Lamb or Robinson and they are giving it up for Wallace who turns 30 this year.

[tpols]

:facepalm

So NJ gets no picks this year? Fvcking terrible management. Anyone watching Dwill's body language this year knows hes out.

[Kingwillball]

This is why I said with D12 Signing the Nets Would be set back another Decade cause they will Lose Dwill and there incompetent GM and Owner will F@ck up and Lose all there Assets they had.. The Nets are a Fricken Joke and in all truth I rather have Gerald Green than Wallace right now anyway..

[KingJames99]

This is why I said with D12 Signing the Nets Would be set back another Decade cause they will Lose Dwill and there incompetent GM and Owner will F@ck up and Lose all there Assets they had.. The Nets are a Fricken Joke and in all truth I rather have Gerald Green than Wallace right now anyway..

Good call lol can't believe they are potentially giving up Kidd Gilchrist/Robinson/Lamb for Gerald ****ing Wallace :facepalm

[AMISTILLILL]

Why can't this dude stay with a team? I've loved his energy since he was a rook in Sacramento and would kill to have him in Boston. I don't understand why he's now been shipped out of town for peanuts twice in one year.

[KingJames99]

Why can't this dude stay with a team? I've loved his energy since he was a rook in Sacramento and would kill to have him in Boston. I don't understand why he's now been shipped out of town for peanuts twice in one year.

Peanuts are you fcking kidding? they are raping the nets, getting a pick which is going to be 4-10 in this stacked draft for Wallace.

Hopefully it's top 14 protected and not just top 3 but the nets are dumb.

[R.I.P.]

Why can't this dude stay with a team? I've loved his energy since he was a rook in Sacramento and would kill to have him in Boston. I don't understand why he's now been shipped out of town for peanuts twice in one year.

Portland wants to build around Aldridge and Batum, so they were unlikely to resign Wallace in the summer (he probably gave indications that he

[AMISTILLILL]

Peanuts are you fcking kidding? they are raping the nets, getting a pick which is going to be 4-10 in this stacked draft for Wallace.

Hopefully it's top 14 protected and not just top 3 but the nets are dumb.

They got a pick and filler garbage, one guy who was contemplating retirement last spring. I know everybody fawns over picks but they're not a sure thing, even in a draft stacked with talent. You could wind up with a Kyrie Irving or you could be stuck with a Jonny Flynn.

[BlackVVaves]

Nets looked like the geniuses of the league, instead they are the retarded kid in the corner of your younger brother's 3rd grade class room with a dunce cap of the league.

[AMISTILLILL]

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Portland wants to build around Aldridge and Batum, so they were unlikely to resign Wallace in the summer (he probably gave indications that he

[kidd2dwill]

i still cant believe im rooting for Nets:(

[KingJames99]

They got a pick and filler garbage, one guy who was contemplating retirement last spring. I know everybody fawns over picks but they're not a sure thing, even in a draft stacked with talent. You could wind up with a Kyrie Irving or you could be stuck with a Jonny Flynn.

You kidding? lol so you would give up Kidd-Gilchrist for Gerrald Wallace?

Anyway i agree with you about shipping him around like he is a scrub but they aren't getting peanuts for him, Charlotte did tho when they traded him last year.

[RaininTwos]

It's the 2012 Pick, protected only for Top 3. I'm sorry that's just idiotic...

omg wtf kinda trade is that!!!!????!!!????

Are you shitting me? You guys could have had so much more for that shit.

[irondarts]

This is a really good deal for the Blazers.

I love Wallace but getting a first rounder is good.

The fact that it's only top 3 protected is incredibly dumb by the Nets, they're probably going to end up with the 5th or 6th pick, therefore the Blazers get a top 10 pick for Gerald, great move.

[KingJames99]

Yeah it's a great move by the blazers if they pull it off this should give them 2 lottery picks in a stacked draft.

[ProfessorMurder]

Ugh, Gerald Wallace just can't be on a good team :facepalm

[AMISTILLILL]

You kidding? lol so you would give up Kidd-Gilchrist for Gerrald Wallace?

Anyway i agree with you about shipping him around like he is a scrub but they aren't getting peanuts for him, Charlotte did tho when they traded him last year.

Again, you don't know if they'll end up with those players and, again, you don't know if they'll pan out at an NBA level. With Portland's luck in the draft I'd be extremely leery about building through picks if I was them.

[niko]

The thing the Nets shouldn't do is panic deals to appease deron, and only protecting through 3 for someone they could have signed outright in a few months strikes me as a panic move.

[AMISTILLILL]

By the way, if Orlando wasn't so busy trying to square away the Dwight situation, they should have done everything they could to trade for Wallace. Dwight and Crash together... that would be a ridiculously fun duo to watch.

[BlackVVaves]

Again, you don't know if they'll end up with those players and, again, you don't know if they'll pan out at an NBA level. With Portland's luck in the draft I'd be extremely leery about building through picks if I was them.

You realize Gerald Wallace will probably bolt this off season right? Thats why the Blazers were shopping him, because he's gonna peace out for a huge pay day.

[KingJames99]

Again, you don't know if they'll end up with those players and, again, you don't know if they'll pan out at an NBA level. With Portland's luck in the draft I'd be extremely leery about building through picks if I was them.

Lol portland will probably pick a player that will be crippled in 3 years but that doesn't mean they nets would do the same. It's still very dumb on the nets part.

So is this confirmed or are talks still going?

[R.I.P.]

Again, you don't know if they'll end up with those players and, again, you don't know if they'll pan out at an NBA level. With Portland's luck in the draft I'd be extremely leery about building through picks if I was them.

But Wallace will leave in the summer unless the Nets pay him big dollars. So they are basically committed to make a run at the Bulls and Heat with Deron, Wallace, Lopez and a few rookies with absolutely NO cap flexibility. On the other hand you have the Mavs with their current roster (minus Terry) plus Deron in 2012/2013, plus a real owner that will have the capspace to sign Dwight Howard or any other free agent next summer.

The fact is they gave up a top pick for a 20 game rental in a season, where their only goal should be the lottery. That is beyond terrible. It

[AMISTILLILL]

You realize Gerald Wallace will probably bolt this off season right? Thats why the Blazers were shopping him, because he's gonna peace out for a huge pay day.

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]But Wallace will leave in the summer unless the Nets pay him big dollars. So they are basically committed to make a run at the Bulls and Heat with Deron, Wallace, Lopez and a few rookies with absolutely NO cap flexibility. On the other hand you have the Mavs with their current roster (minus Terry) plus Deron in 2012/2013, plus a real owner that will have the capspace to sign Dwight Howard or any other free agent next summer.

The fact is they gave up a top pick for a 20 game rental in a season, where their only goal should be the lottery. That is beyond terrible. It

[BlackVVaves]

Like I said not even two posts ago, they could have got a better deal with tangible pieces and picks. These are just panic deals from both teams; Nets seeing that Dwight's staying in ORL and the Blazers getting trounced by 42 last night to an inferior Knicks squad in Woodson's coaching debut. Both teams had to do something or risk alienating their fanbase by standing pat.

True that, true that.

[Whoah10115]

You kidding? lol so you would give up Kidd-Gilchrist for Gerrald Wallace?

Anyway i agree with you about shipping him around like he is a scrub but they aren't getting peanuts for him, Charlotte did tho when they traded him last year.



If MKG comes out, he then has to show he's a better player than Gerald Wallace. Gerald Wallace is great. And they have Marshon Brooks. Even if MKG is better than Brooks, even if he's better than Wallace, he's not better than both. And it's a question of whether or not he plays the 3 or the 2 in the NBA. If it's the 2, I'm trusting that Brooks is gonna be an all-star (because that's my impression watching him).



Wallace is also immediate and even if MKG is better he's not gonna be better this season.




But it's still a bit risky...especially if the Nets remain this bad. But they've won games without Deron and they should be better than their current record, with their current roster. Add Lopez and they might not suck.



Tho if they give up this year's 1st round draft pick I would want Portland's...but that's obviously not gonna happen.

[OG LeeTSkeeT]

damn that draft pick is worth way more than the players they gave up. I was hoping the Lakers get wallace instead but Blazers did well if they get a lottery pick which they probably will.

[KingJames99]

If MKG comes out, he then has to show he's a better player than Gerald Wallace. Gerald Wallace is great. And they have Marshon Brooks. Even if MKG is better than Brooks, even if he's better than Wallace, he's not better than both. And it's a question of whether or not he plays the 3 or the 2 in the NBA. If it's the 2, I'm trusting that Brooks is gonna be an all-star (because that's my impression watching him).



Wallace is also immediate and even if MKG is better he's not gonna be better this season.




But it's still a bit risky...especially if the Nets remain this bad. But they've won games without Deron and they should be better than their current record, with their current roster. Add Lopez and they might not suck.



Tho if they give up this year's 1st round draft pick I would want Portland's...but that's obviously not gonna happen.

Lol what if he's not better than both? wtf does that have to do with anything id rather have kidd/brooks than wallace/brooks. And Wallace is 30 and has already had a long career while kidd is 20

Not a good deal for the nets they are now going to lose Deron and a potential star in this draft and be left with nothing.

[Kingwillball]

Kidd Gilchrist > Wallace.. 10 years Younger Will be a Better Version of Wallace at very least.

[KingJames99]

Kidd Gilchrist > Wallace.. 10 years Younger Will be a Better Version of Wallace at very least.

Yeah exaclty.

So is this a 100% done deal? please someone tell me the nets made that pick top 14 protected and not just top 3 lol.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Yeah exaclty.

So is this a 100% done deal? please someone tell me the nets made that pick top 14 protected and not just top 3 lol.

It's only a top 3 protected pick. Although I firmly believe that David Stern will rigg the draft and give the Nets the first overall pick. (crosses fingers).

And yeah it's a done deal. I think the league has even approved it by now.

[Whoah10115]

Lol what if he's not better than both? wtf does that have to do with anything id rather have kidd/brooks than wallace/brooks. And Wallace is 30 and has already had a long career while kidd is 20

Not a good deal for the nets they are now going to lose Deron and a potential star in this draft and be left with nothing.



I'm asking in that post you quoted is he gonna play the 3 or the 2. If he plays the 3, then I understand the Nets could have gone after him (for example, if he's available at their spot) and played him with Brooks. If he's more suited to being a 2guard (and I don't know his game enough to decide that) then I already have Brooks and I make another move. That's my point.


And if you're Deron, you have no interest in having a guy like Wallace? Deron Williams is a basketball player. He's not just waiting for names to show up. He wants a team. Gerald Wallace is an all-star caliber player.

[BlackVVaves]

Yeah exaclty.

So is this a 100% done deal? please someone tell me the nets made that pick top 14 protected and not just top 3 lol.

Just top 3 :no:

[Owl]

Nets have 6th worst record (half a game in front of tied 4-5th) and they hand over a top 3 protected pick in the most hyped draft in years for a rental of an injury prone guy reliant on athleticism already on the downswing and approaching his 30th birthday.
Awesome





for Portland

[KingJames99]

I'm asking in that post you quoted is he gonna play the 3 or the 2. If he plays the 3, then I understand the Nets could have gone after him (for example, if he's available at their spot) and played him with Brooks. If he's more suited to being a 2guard (and I don't know his game enough to decide that) then I already have Brooks and I make another move. That's my point.


And if you're Deron, you have no interest in having a guy like Wallace? Deron Williams is a basketball player. He's not just waiting for names to show up. He wants a team. Gerald Wallace is an all-star caliber player.

From what i can see it looks like he will play the 3 and even then Gilchrist isn't the only player they could have taken Robinson, Lamb, Sullinger and Barnes who in alot of drafts is gonna fall just outside the top 3.

As for Wallace you are right he is great but guess what he is leaving Portland after this season and he isn't going to really make a huge difference this year so why not just sign him then and draft Robinson at the pf.

Williams
Brooks
Wallace
Robinson
Lopez

Looks like a sold team to me but the nets are to dumb to do that here's hoping that pick has more protection that just top 3.

[Owl]

I'm asking in that post you quoted is he gonna play the 3 or the 2. If he plays the 3, then I understand the Nets could have gone after him (for example, if he's available at their spot) and played him with Brooks. If he's more suited to being a 2guard (and I don't know his game enough to decide that) then I already have Brooks and I make another move. That's my point.


And if you're Deron, you have no interest in having a guy like Wallace? Deron Williams is a basketball player. He's not just waiting for names to show up. He wants a team. Gerald Wallace is an all-star caliber player.
Gerald Wallace was a borderline all-star. And as I posted above he's in a second consecutive down year, has suffered a lot of injuries throughout his career, has been dependent on athleticism and turns 30 in the summer.

[KingJames99]

Nets should just send williams, Wallace and Brooks to d league and tank to get a top 3 pick :D

[Whoah10115]

From what i can see it looks like he will play the 3 and even then Gilchrist isn't the only player they could have taken Robinson, Lamb, Sullinger and Barnes who in alot of drafts is gonna fall just outside the top 3.

As for Wallace you are right he is great but guess what he is leaving Portland after this season and he isn't going to really make a huge difference this year so why not just sign him then and draft Robinson at the pf.

Williams
Brooks
Wallace
Robinson
Lopez

Looks like a sold team to me but the nets are to dumb to do that here's hoping that pick has more protection that just top 3.




Does he have a player option or an ETO? I ask because rotoworld is usually very good for contract details, but it doesn't say that he has an option for next year. What exactly is his option?




Gerald Wallace was a borderline all-star. And as I posted above he's in a second consecutive down year, has suffered a lot of injuries throughout his career, has been dependent on athleticism and turns 30 in the summer.



He was the best player on the Bobcats and that means something, because he actually got them into the playoffs. And he's all-star caliber. I'd take him over Deng of Iguodala, at least right now. I'd take him over Granger as well and for now Rudy Gay. But that is my opinion. Either way, he's a great player.

[Owl]

Does he have a player option or an ETO? I ask because rotoworld is usually very good for contract details, but it doesn't say that he has an option for next year. What exactly is his option?







He was the best player on the Bobcats and that means something, because he actually got them into the playoffs. And he's all-star caliber. I'd take him over Deng of Iguodala, at least right now. I'd take him over Granger as well and for now Rudy Gay. But that is my opinion. Either way, he's a great player.
9.5 mil player option.
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/blazers.jsp

[KingJames99]

Does he have a player option or an ETO? I ask because rotoworld is usually very good for contract details, but it doesn't say that he has an option for next year. What exactly is his option?







He was the best player on the Bobcats and that means something, because he actually got them into the playoffs. And he's all-star caliber. I'd take him over Deng of Iguodala, at least right now. I'd take him over Granger as well and for now Rudy Gay. But that is my opinion. Either way, he's a great player.

He has a player option but from what i have heard Wallace will not exercise it and will become a unrestricted free agent this of course was when he was with Portland but i expect he will still test free agency and try to get a new deal.

So as i said not smart on the Nets part should have kept the pick and got him in the summer.

[KingJames99]

I think they have a chance it getting into the bottom 3 the only 3 teams that are worse than them are Washington, Bobcats and Hornets.

They don't have a chance at being worse than the Bobcats but with Washington making a deal for Nene and if Gordon returns to the hornets (any news on him?) they have a legit shot at getting into the bottom 3.

This trade might just work out for the nets.

[Owl]

He was the best player on the Bobcats and that means something, because he actually got them into the playoffs. And he's all-star caliber. I'd take him over Deng of Iguodala, at least right now. I'd take him over Granger as well and for now Rudy Gay. But that is my opinion. Either way, he's a great player.
He was the best player on the Bobcats the entire time he was there. And his all out balls to the wall, crazy all energy game was fun to watch and an awesome boost for his team.
But that style has taken it's toll. To reiterate the "he's not what he used to be theme" I'll post his peak year in the main boxscore stat and then what he's giving this year.
ppg 19.4 - 13.3
rpg 10 - 6.6
apg 3.5 - 2.7
bpg 2.1 - 0.6
spg 2.5 - 1.5
and for what its worth
PER 21.3 - 15.5
If you'd take him over Deng or Iggy at this point you'd be alone in doing so.

[Owl]

I think they have a chance it getting into the bottom 3 the only 3 teams that are worse than them are Washington, Bobcats and Hornets.

They don't have a chance at being worse than the Bobcats but with Washington making a deal for Nene and if Gordon returns to the hornets (any news on him?) they have a legit shot at getting into the bottom 3.

This trade might just work out for the nets.
Even if they fall into the bottom 3 teams it doesn't mean that they won't necessarily end up with 4-6th pick (in fact if they're 3rd worst, off the top off my head I think they're worse than 50-50 of getting a top 3 pick). And even if the Nets luck out, I assume it just means Portland get's next years pick, presumably with weaker/no protection. And if the Nets aren't great this year, and are reportedly likely to lose Deron, well it might be even worse next year, so that pick could be even higher.

[KingJames99]

Even if they fall into the bottom 3 teams it doesn't mean that they won't necessarily end up with 4-6th pick (in fact if they're 3rd worst, off the top off my head I think they're worse than 50-50 of getting a top 3 pick). And even if the Nets luck out, I assume it just means Portland get's next years pick, presumably with weaker/no protection. And if the Nets aren't great this year, and are reportedly likely to lose Deron, well it might be even worse next year, so that pick could be even higher.

Nope just this year's pick i hope the nets do luck out would be great to see them open in brooklyn with this roster.

Williams
Brooks
Wallace
Robinson
Lopez

Stern needs to rig it for the Nets can goto Brooklyn without a star.

[Myth]

Love this trade for Portland. This trade gets us a high pick in the draft most likely, and it puts Portland in tank mode, so they should have 2 lottery picks in the 2012 draft. :rockon:

If the Nets end up getting a top 3 pick, what does the protection become for next year?

[Whoah10115]

I think his drop in stats is more to do with where he plays.



But either way...if he has that player option...just makes no sense...I can't begin to understand that.

[Owl]

I think his drop in stats is more to do with where he plays.



But either way...if he has that player option...just makes no sense...I can't begin to understand that.
Partially yes (but mainly insofar as that his Bobcat's stats were inflated by their awfulness). But I still think his game was about athleticism and it will age badly (and has already started doing so)


Love this trade for Portland. This trade gets us a high pick in the draft most likely, and it puts Portland in tank mode, so they should have 2 lottery picks in the 2012 draft. :rockon:

If the Nets end up getting a top 3 pick, what does the protection become for next year?
I wondered this, couldn't find definite confirmation but if I read the post quoted below right (it was in response to my post so in that context it seems to mean that) the pick doesn't roll over (which is pretty unusual I know, maybe they misunderstood my prior post, but maybe not)

Nope just this year's pick i hope the nets do luck out would be great to see them open in brooklyn with this roster.

Williams
Brooks
Wallace
Robinson
Lopez

Stern needs to rig it for the Nets can goto Brooklyn without a star.

[Whoah10115]

I didn't see the player option mentioned in that link but I'll take your word for it. I think Wallace is huge for a team that has Lopez at center (and maybe Humprhies at PF). Just a waste if they could have taken that shot in the Summer.


If Wallace can't opt out, I feel much differently about all this, even if others disagree.



And they should keep Lopez long-term...Brook and Brooks...too good a duo nickname.

[ODEN>DURANT]

Blazers are only 1-2 wins ahead of the Warriors, Knicks and Bucks. TANK, TANK, TANK! Nice trade!

[Myth]

I didn't see the player option mentioned in that link but I'll take your word for it. I think Wallace is huge for a team that has Lopez at center (and maybe Humprhies at PF). Just a waste if they could have taken that shot in the Summer.


If Wallace can't opt out, I feel much differently about all this, even if others disagree.


And they should keep Lopez long-term...Brook and Brooks...too good a duo nickname.

Wallace definitely has a player option. Last we heard here in Portland was that he was leaning towards opting in because it is over $10M and his play this season doesn't warrant him getting a bigger contract. If Wallace plays really well for the Nets, then maybe he'll opt out in hopes of getting a decent multi-year contract.

[Nets fan 93]

Gerald may have been a panic trade. But it's exactly what the nets needed. They needed that slasher/defender. Nets have also not done so well rebounding and definitely didn't get any from Stevenson. That pick will most likely not even be a good lotto pick if it is at all. Let's not forget deron is still on this team. Also takes a lot of pressure off brooks. So it's good for now. The summer.... Well see. Nice little trio of Williams Wallace Lopez to go along with hump and marshon for the meantime.

[Zenji]

What a joke.

[BrooklynZoo]

this trade sounds horrible to me if im the nets. a first rounder, a 10 mill expirer + williams for wallace? the heck is that? the nets have the 6th worst record in the league and this draft is deep. and on a day where nick young and leandro barbosa were had for almost nothing, this trade makes even less sense

[BrooklynZoo]

this trade might have made sense to the nets had the pick not been involved. but now this is just a head scratcher. in a desperation attempt to keep deron, the nets went out and got... gerald wallace..

[Whoah10115]

Wallace definitely has a player option. Last we heard here in Portland was that he was leaning towards opting in because it is over $10M and his play this season doesn't warrant him getting a bigger contract. If Wallace plays really well for the Nets, then maybe he'll opt out in hopes of getting a decent multi-year contract.




Which would be the reason for the Nets not to trade such a high draft pick. But now that it's happened, the Nets better hope you guys don't have a chance to draft Anthony Davis...that would suck so hard for them.


Maybe MKG cuz he's supposed to be good and he's from right around the corner, in Elizabeth. Anyone else, I really don't think it matters for the Nets. It's huge for you guys tho.

[hawkfan]

The Nets could have had Favors, Kanter, Lopez at the bigs.

Instead they have Lopez, Humphries, Wallace.

Long term the first one is far better.

[niko]

Gerald may have been a panic trade. But it's exactly what the nets needed. They needed that slasher/defender. Nets have also not done so well rebounding and definitely didn't get any from Stevenson. That pick will most likely not even be a good lotto pick if it is at all. Let's not forget deron is still on this team. Also takes a lot of pressure off brooks. So it's good for now. The summer.... Well see. Nice little trio of Williams Wallace Lopez to go along with hump and marshon for the meantime.
Or you tossed away your pick with deron.

[Nets fan 93]

Or you tossed away your pick with deron.
Oh well. It's what Deron wanted. He wanted a move. He didn't want to wait for a rookie to develop. Billy did his job. The players involved don't matter. Shawne was horrible and Okur was out. Nets are 6th worst for now. Williams got his help while keeping Brook, Marshon and Humphries.

[Myth]

Which would be the reason for the Nets not to trade such a high draft pick. But now that it's happened, the Nets better hope you guys don't have a chance to draft Anthony Davis...that would suck so hard for them.


Yeah, I don't understand it for the Nets, but I'm happy the Blazers may have a chance to rebuild.

[Kingwillball]

Oh well. It's what Deron wanted. He wanted a move. He didn't want to wait for a rookie to develop. Billy did his job. The players involved don't matter. Shawne was horrible and Okur was out. Nets are 6th worst for now. Williams got his help while keeping Brook, Marshon and Humphries.


oh Yeah, Than Derron's A$$ better not be going anywhere after the season if that is what he wanted or Prokov should send Russian Mob out to break his Kneecaps..

[GOBB]

Too bad Dwight wasnt on his period and decided he wanted to be traded to NJN ala Melo like demands last season. That way Orlando could have dealt him there for Brook Lopez and whatever.

Dwight
Kardashian
G.Wallace
Brooks
DWill

That is a very solid lineup on paper.

[BlueCrayon]

Wtf?? The draft pick was the only thing I was looking forward to this year so we could have a solid back up plan if Deron leaves.

[ZHAKIDD532]

I want Billy King to explain to me why he did this. Like right now.

[D12"Magic"]

Sad day for us Net Fans :(

[Whoah10115]

Yeah, I don't understand it for the Nets, but I'm happy the Blazers may have a chance to rebuild.



Aldridge, Batum, Matthews. Aldridge has to improve the rebounding, but I love him. And not only is he a 1st option, but you can go thru him. That's a great trio. They have to draft a center. Either that or they can sign Chris Kaman, who I think would do so well next to Aldridge.



Their push next year will be serious if it's handled right and they have the right coach.

[Nets fan 93]

Wtf?? The draft pick was the only thing I was looking forward to this year so we could have a solid back up plan if Deron leaves.
Keeping that pick and keeping the roster the way it was without a significant improvement(Wallace) garuantees Williams leaving. This gives him a solid team to work with now and hopefully in the future.

[insidehoops]

Trade official, confirmed by Nets now: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=9443

[BlueCrayon]

Keeping that pick and keeping the roster the way it was without a significant improvement(Wallace) garuantees Williams leaving. This gives him a solid team to work with now and hopefully in the future.

There is a really strong draft class this year so I really hope you're right and the pick doesn't come back to haunt us.

[GOBB]

There is a really strong draft class this year so I really hope you're right and the pick doesn't come back to haunt us.

Huge risk by NJN. If Deron stays? I'd say whatever to the draft pick and assume by getting Gerald Wallace as one of many things it kept Deron in town. If Deron bolts? I laugh until my sides hurt.

[Whoah10115]

Kentucky Boys, Unibrow and MKG are the only guys that are worth it for the Nets.



So, for ya'll sakes, hope that Portland doesn't end up with one of them lol. Other than that, I think Wallace is the better choice...and the only reason I'd like MKG so much is cuz he's from Elizabeth. Cuz Anthony Davis alongside Brook Lopez is so perfect it can't be explained...



BUT...if your record nets a top 3 pick, Portland can't use it...if not, you obviously can't get Davis. So...unless you want the hometown boy that bad, this is good.



The only real bad is that Wallace could have opted out and you could have offered him the same contract in the Summer, without losing the pick. But having Wallace is more likely than not better than the pick...I feel.



For Portland, the absolute opposite.

[GOBB]

Wait this pick is lottery protected? Explain. I havent read any news on the deal. Just going by sticky headers.

[D12"Magic"]

Wait this pick is lottery protected? Explain. I havent read any news on the deal. Just going by sticky headers.
If it falls into the top 3, it remain's our's. After the top 3, which mean's 4 and up it will be there's if the pick is not a top 3 pick.

Proky just pay a couple Mills for a top 3 pick :pimp:

[GOBB]

If it falls into the top 3, it remain's our's. After the top 3, which mean's 4 and up it will be there's if the pick is not a top 3 pick.

Proky just pay a couple Mills for a top 3 pick :pimp:

Thats cool. I dont care for the Nets but I'd rather them land a top 3 pick than Charlotte, Wash, Sacremento.

[D12"Magic"]

We still have Houston's protected pick, if we can land Q-Miller and some that may be sleeper's, I wouldn't feel as bad.

[Whoah10115]

We still have Houston's protected pick, if we can land Q-Miller and some that may be sleeper's, I wouldn't feel as bad.


You need to get a PF. Preferably one who can rebound.



If Houston doesn't make the playoffs, that means they have a top 14 pick tho. Isn't that as far as it's protected? Just warning ahead of time, because I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs.

[Blue&Orange]

Nets better start to pray for a top3 pick... just like they have been praying that D-Will doesn't bolt.

[Blue&Orange]

Proky just pay a couple Mills for a top 3 pick :pimp:
I don't get it. :confusedshrug:

[D12"Magic"]

You need to get a PF. Preferably one who can rebound.



If Houston doesn't make the playoffs, that means they have a top 14 pick tho. Isn't that as far as it's protected? Just warning ahead of time, because I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs.
Miller has length, it'd be nice if we could resign Hump which is what im assuming but it may not happen, he is gonna want a big contract. So yeah we would need a PF. I think Rocket's could make it. They need Lowry as soon as possible though.

And Blue it means Prokhorov can pay Stern to rig the Lottery. :pimp:

PS: Im joking by the way, doubt that will happen

[Blue&Orange]

And Blue it means Prokhorov can pay Stern to rig the Lottery. :pimp:

:oldlol:

[longtime lurker]

Man Nets making panic move after panic move. I don't see Gerald Wallace enticing Deron to stay, he's as good as gone to Dallas. Maybe Dwight dodged a bullet because this organization can't tell their head from their asshole.

[Whoah10115]

Miller has length, it'd be nice if we could resign Hump which is what im assuming but it may not happen, he is gonna want a big contract. So yeah we would need a PF. I think Rocket's could make it. They need Lowry as soon as possible though.

And Blue it means Prokhorov can pay Stern to rig the Lottery. :pimp:

PS: Im joking by the way, doubt that will happen



Keeping Brook, bringing in Wallace, I think it's important the Nets make attempt to make a big move. I don't know who. Unless the Knicks decide they hate Amare and need rid of him...I'm sure there is someone available thru trade, free agency, or thru the draft. This team can be a lot better than people realize.

[longtime lurker]

Why didn't the Nets make a move for Josh Smith? You'd have to think a lottery pick+fillers would entice Atlanta. They'd basically be a playoff team with a high chance of adding another allstar to their roster. As for the Nets a trio of Smith, Brooks and Lopez has to be more enticing to Deron than Lopez, Wallace, Brooks

[Ghostfacethrill]

Why didn't the Nets make a move for Josh Smith? You'd have to think a lottery pick+fillers would entice Atlanta. They'd basically be a playoff team with a high chance of adding another allstar to their roster. As for the Nets a trio of Smith, Brooks and Lopez has to be more enticing to Deron than Lopez, Wallace, Brooks

the nets aint keepin dwill. easy as that.

[Whoah10115]

Why didn't the Nets make a move for Josh Smith? You'd have to think a lottery pick+fillers would entice Atlanta. They'd basically be a playoff team with a high chance of adding another allstar to their roster. As for the Nets a trio of Smith, Brooks and Lopez has to be more enticing to Deron than Lopez, Wallace, Brooks



The Nets could have attempted to trade the now Portland pick and future 1st round picks to Atlanta, for Josh Smith...and then maybe trade the Houston pick for Gerald Wallace. I know Portland would have done it.


If anything, trade both 1st round picks for Josh Smith and look for Wallace in the offseason...would have been interesting then.



But I don't think Atlanta would have traded Josh Smith.

[k-vil]

The Nets could have attempted to trade the now Portland pick and future 1st round picks to Atlanta, for Josh Smith...and then maybe trade the Houston pick for Gerald Wallace. I know Portland would have done it.


If anything, trade both 1st round picks for Josh Smith and look for Wallace in the offseason...would have been interesting then.



But I don't think Atlanta would have traded Josh Smith.
If that's the case, why they didnt go big time during the deadline and try to get Aldridge from Portland not that he is on the block. Wallace is a find player but if the Nets can get Aldridge, that may decide Dwill to resign.

[Whoah10115]

If that's the case, why they didnt go big time during the deadline and try to get Aldridge from Portland not that he is on the block. Wallace is a find player but if the Nets can get Aldridge, that may decide Dwill to resign.



The Trail Blazers aren't stupid enough to trade the guy they have to build around. Add to that he's worth max money and he doesn't make it, and is signed for 4 more years. LMA, Blake, Love...the 3 PF's I want over the next 5 years.



If the Nets got LMA there'd be no concern over Deron going anywhere. If you thought Boozer did well with Deron...Aldridge would be in Malone Land.

[Kiddlovesnets]

We will see for this then, for now its difficult to tell if it is a good or a bad move. It is a move though, you have to agree. We could've had our chance in 2010 draft class, but we were rigged and only got Derrick Favors.

Draft lottery is about luck, we may as well just get top 3 or we end up getting only the 10th. If we have a 8-14 pick, its definitely not going to be better than Gerald Wallace.

Truth be told, the Nets management is making too many gambling moves. As a Nets fan I appreciate that they are making moves, after all this was unheard of in Bruce Ratner's era.

[Myth]

Partially yes (but mainly insofar as that his Bobcat's stats were inflated by their awfulness). But I still think his game was about athleticism and it will age badly (and has already started doing so)


I wondered this, couldn't find definite confirmation but if I read the post quoted below right (it was in response to my post so in that context it seems to mean that) the pick doesn't roll over (which is pretty unusual I know, maybe they misunderstood my prior post, but maybe not)

I read that the pick becomes top 2 protected in 2013, top 1 protected in 2014, and unprotected in 2015. So Blazers should be good as long as the Nets don't win top 3 in the lottery this year and then suddenly trade for Howard before next season.

[niko]

I don't like the trade for two reasons, neither of which involves Gerald Wallace, who i really like as a player.
1) He's not a game changer. If Deron was not staying (and im not saying he is not) he's not changing his mind because they acquired Gerald Wallace.
2) For the price the Nets gave up, they could have gotten Paul Pierce, or thrown in another pick and went after J Smith or Aldrige actually. It felt like they had a good idea, but overpaid.

It may work out good but i still think they overpaid and they upped the risk level if they lose Deron. The Nets were all in, and they pushed more chips to the center of the table.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Now that I've had time to reflect on the trade here are my thoughts:

This trade is stupid because it's implying that Billy King wants to make a playoff push by acquiring Gerald Wallace. Forget the playoff push and settle for our top 4-6 pick in the draft which would have been a great player in a few years.

If we do somehow manage to get the 3rd overall pick or better, next year is a top 2 lottery protected pick, the year after top 1, and in 2015 non-protected.

So pretty stupid going foward especially considering that Wallace is on the decline and will be 8-10 years older then anybody we pick in the draft now and later.

And finally this trade was a "satisfy Dwill trade" when in reality he is probably more upset because this wasted season of mediocrity is going down the drain and Portland walks away winners.

[niko]

Now that I've had time to reflect on the trade here are my thoughts:

This trade is stupid because it's implying that Billy King wants to make a playoff push by acquiring Gerald Wallace. Forget the playoff push and settle for our top 4-6 pick in the draft which would have been a great player in a few years.

If we do somehow manage to get the 3rd overall pick or better, next year is a top 2 lottery protected pick, the year after top 1, and in 2015 non-protected.

So pretty stupid going foward especially considering that Wallace is on the decline and will be 8-10 years older then anybody we pick in the draft now and later.

And finally this trade was a "satisfy Dwill trade" when in reality he is probably more upset because this wasted season of mediocrity is going down the drain and Portland walks away winners.
Look at the ESPN article on the trade, Billy King says the reason they don't need the draft pick is they are in WIN NOW mode.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Look at the ESPN article on the trade, Billy King says the reason they don't need the draft pick is they are in WIN NOW mode.


I read it on Netsdaily as well. That's hilarious, with 20 something games left he wants to make the playoffs? They would need to lose 4 games at max just to think about qualifying. Dwight ****ed the Nets up badly. He could have easily been a Net last night and instantly they would have been a great team. Hopefully the Magic get a first round exit and Howard forces a trade this Summer.

[Whoah10115]

I don't like the trade for two reasons, neither of which involves Gerald Wallace, who i really like as a player.
1) He's not a game changer. If Deron was not staying (and im not saying he is not) he's not changing his mind because they acquired Gerald Wallace.
2) For the price the Nets gave up, they could have gotten Paul Pierce, or thrown in another pick and went after J Smith or Aldrige actually. It felt like they had a good idea, but overpaid.

It may work out good but i still think they overpaid and they upped the risk level if they lose Deron. The Nets were all in, and they pushed more chips to the center of the table.



I disagree. I think that Gerald Wallace is an all-star caliber player and while he may not be a franchise changer, all-star caliber is what it is. He's one of the best defenders in the league, a great shot-blocker who gets lots of steals. And he's one of the best rebounding SF's in the league. Stats never look on the Blazers. But he took that Bobcats team to the playoffs and he's still got a few years left.


Deron is a basketball player. He should want to play with great players. Wallace is a better player than Boozer ever was. He has Brook and Brooks. They need a big-time player. He gets that in Dallas, but he has his team in Brooklyn that is better on paper than what Dwight has in Orlando. Avery might be a problem tho. They still have Houston's pick if Houston somehow makes the playoffs. They're gonna be playing in the City.



And they had no shot at LaMarcus Aldridge. Portland cannot be stupid enough to trade a 26 year old max player who makes less than $13Million a year. He's one of the 3 PF's in the NBA that will stand above the rest for the next 7-8 years. Porltand just can't be that stupid. Josh Smith is a maybe, but Wallace isn't far behind Smith.


Lastly, it's all about giving up a pick when you could have signed him as a free agent. In fact, they could have offered a lot of money Batum. If they offered Batum some Wallace money, Portland would likely not match...at least you'd think. They're not making the playoffs this year.


May as well have offered that pick that was signed thru next season.

[niko]

I disagree. I think that Gerald Wallace is an all-star caliber player and while he may not be a franchise changer, all-star caliber is what it is. He's one of the best defenders in the league, a great shot-blocker who gets lots of steals. And he's one of the best rebounding SF's in the league. Stats never look on the Blazers. But he took that Bobcats team to the playoffs and he's still got a few years left.


Deron is a basketball player. He should want to play with great players. Wallace is a better player than Boozer ever was. He has Brook and Brooks. They need a big-time player. He gets that in Dallas, but he has his team in Brooklyn that is better on paper than what Dwight has in Orlando. Avery might be a problem tho. They still have Houston's pick if Houston somehow makes the playoffs. They're gonna be playing in the City.



And they had no shot at LaMarcus Aldridge. Portland cannot be stupid enough to trade a 26 year old max player who makes less than $13Million a year. He's one of the 3 PF's in the NBA that will stand above the rest for the next 7-8 years. Porltand just can't be that stupid. Josh Smith is a maybe, but Wallace isn't far behind Smith.


Lastly, it's all about giving up a pick when you could have signed him as a free agent. In fact, they could have offered a lot of money Batum. If they offered Batum some Wallace money, Portland would likely not match...at least you'd think. They're not making the playoffs this year.


May as well have offered that pick that was signed thru next season.
i still don't get it, i don't disagree with any point you said but seriously, i don't get people arguing Deron would stay because they got Dwight, and now changing that to "its ok, they got Gerald Wallace". That's not logicial.

Basically i think risk outweights reward here AND that they could have got him cheaper.

[Kiddlovesnets]

I don't like the trade for two reasons, neither of which involves Gerald Wallace, who i really like as a player.
1) He's not a game changer. If Deron was not staying (and im not saying he is not) he's not changing his mind because they acquired Gerald Wallace.
2) For the price the Nets gave up, they could have gotten Paul Pierce, or thrown in another pick and went after J Smith or Aldrige actually. It felt like they had a good idea, but overpaid.

It may work out good but i still think they overpaid and they upped the risk level if they lose Deron. The Nets were all in, and they pushed more chips to the center of the table.

Why dont you like this trade as a Knicks fan?
:lol

[Eat Like A Bosh]

The Nets panicked once they realized Dwight is opting in.

[Whoah10115]

i still don't get it, i don't disagree with any point you said but seriously, i don't get people arguing Deron would stay because they got Dwight, and now changing that to "its ok, they got Gerald Wallace". That's not logicial.

Basically i think risk outweights reward here AND that they could have got him cheaper.



It's clear the Nets are not well-run. And that, more than not having Dwight and settling for Wallace, is what could scare Williams away.

[Nets fan 93]

It's clear the Nets are not well-run. And that, more than not having Dwight and settling for Wallace, is what could scare Williams away.
Nets had no control in making Dwight opt in or out. The magic on fact were going to deal Howard to the nets for Lopez and Wallace in a 3 team trade. And Wallace was signed off by Williams. Management asked him and Williams approved saying he doesn't want to wait around for a rookie to develop.

[Whoah10115]

Nets had no control in making Dwight opt in or out. The magic on fact were going to deal Howard to the nets for Lopez and Wallace in a 3 team trade. And Wallace was signed off by Williams. Management asked him and Williams approved saying he doesn't want to wait around for a rookie to develop.



I hadn't heard about that...if that's accurate then Deron better not be leaving.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Billy King is the worst GM in the league

[Lebron23]

The Blazers wins in this trade. I hope they draft Thomas Robinson in the first round.

[UtahJazzFan88]

If Gerald Wallace was an All-Star Caliber player, the Blazers wouldn't have been a less than .500 team like they were and are. Don't get me wrong, I like him as a player and he still can contribute, but I think it's pretty hilarious that Billy King gave up a top 10 pick for him, could have had better offers with that IMO.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Well right now the Nets are the 4th worst team in the league. Adding Gerald Wallace will get us a few wins, but I hope to remain around that 4-6 spot. I think there's also a statistic that the worst team in the league rarely gets the first overall pick, so hopefully it holds true again this year and we can sneak into the top 3.

[Whoah10115]

If Gerald Wallace was an All-Star Caliber player, the Blazers wouldn't have been a less than .500 team like they were and are. Don't get me wrong, I like him as a player and he still can contribute, but I think it's pretty hilarious that Billy King gave up a top 10 pick for him, could have had better offers with that IMO.



He was one of the few guys playing hard. And playing too hard. Like niko said, he throws his body around even when up by 20...he was throwing his body around the night before, against the Knicks, down by 35.



He's still an all-star caliber player. One of the best SF's in the league. But the Nets aren't close, so if they're gonna give up a top 10 pick they should have gone after someone else or they should have offered the Rockets pick. I'm sure the Blazers would have taken that.




But I still wanna hear about Williams wanting the Wallace trade.

[Duderonomy]

Terrible, we will have nothing to build around next season. Lopez will get overpaid and deron will join the mavs. Wallace isnt gonna get us into the playoffs. Pierce would of atleast make this team interesting. you can't tell me ainge wouldn't of made that deal.