Rick Santorum wants to ban pornography

[bagelred]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rick-santorum-wants-ban-hardcore-pornography-222833811.html

Rick Santorum wants to put an end to the distribution of pornography in the United States.

"America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography," Santorum's official website reads. "Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking."

The former Pennsylvania senator states that, "as a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture."

Santorum criticized the Obama administration for turning "a blind eye ... to the scourge of pornography" and for refusing to enforce obscenity laws.

"If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so," Santorum writes. "While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration."

:roll: I hate religious, nutjob conservatives so much.

[Derka]

Supreme Court will have little trouble telling him and his Attorney General to go f**k himself, thank you very much.

[Godzuki]

thats only the tip of the iceberg with him. he's as religious wacky as a candidate gets, and its amazing how he continues to be successful in the race against Romney :facepalm

so many retards in our country....

[bagelred]

I favor porn over children and families, guess I'm voting for Obama again.

You are being silly. You integrate families and children WITH the porn. Win, win.......

[Godzuki]

I favor porn over children and families, guess I'm voting for Obama again.


what a dumb statement from a dumbass :facepalm

[Jailblazers7]

I still can't belive Santorum is considered anything other than a joke.

[DropStep]

One thing history has shown us repeatedly is politicians that go after problem such as this, tend to be suffering from a related addiction.

I cant wait till Santorum gets caught with 8TB of Scat Porn on his hard drive.

The fact Rick Santorum is even getting votes proves to me either the NWO is involved or the people in this country still have a long way to go.

[G-train]

The thing is he is right, and you American tards are too stupid to see it.
Porn screws peoples lives. Maybe not yours yet, or ever. But it does effect lives.
Ask a rapist/pedo/serial killer what they got up to in their spare time and warped their brains. Ask the husband leaving his devoted wife for a younger woman. Ask the men with guilt related mental disease. The elimination of porn would only do good for the USA.
I dont know who this man is or what else he stands for but he is right in the above quote.

[miller-time]

The thing is he is right, and you American tards are too stupid to see it.
Porn screws peoples lives. Maybe not yours yet, or ever. But it does effect lives.
Ask a rapist/pedo/serial killer what they got up to in their spare time and warped their brains. Ask the husband leaving his devoted wife for a younger woman. Ask the men with guilt related mental disease. The elimination of porn would only do good for the USA.
I dont know who this man is or what else he stands for but he is right in the above quote.

the counter argument to that is that porn actually stops people from going out and raping because it provides an outlet for pent up sexual frustration.

[heyhey]

the counter argument to that is that porn actually stops people from going out and raping because it provides an outlet for pent up sexual frustration.

I hAve heard from psychologists that that argument really isn't valid, getting accustomed to porn and violence makes one desensitized to it and almost internalize it to b the norm. Ppl who watch porn often find certain things less objectionable. Will try and find a source

[Jailblazers7]

The thing is he is right, and you American tards are too stupid to see it.
Porn screws peoples lives. Maybe not yours yet, or ever. But it does effect lives.
Ask a rapist/pedo/serial killer what they got up to in their spare time and warped their brains. Ask the husband leaving his devoted wife for a younger woman. Ask the men with guilt related mental disease. The elimination of porn would only do good for the USA.
I dont know who this man is or what else he stands for but he is right in the above quote.

Banning people from watching something because "it is in their best interest" is a slippery slope.

[Godzuki]

The thing is he is right, and you American tards are too stupid to see it.
Porn screws peoples lives. Maybe not yours yet, or ever. But it does effect lives.
Ask a rapist/pedo/serial killer what they got up to in their spare time and warped their brains. Ask the husband leaving his devoted wife for a younger woman. Ask the men with guilt related mental disease. The elimination of porn would only do good for the USA.
I dont know who this man is or what else he stands for but he is right in the above quote.


fast food is bad too... it makes people fat with health problems. should they ban it?

how about being in front of a computer leisurely surfing or gaming? its a waste of time where they could be doing something more productive, should they ban it?

there are so many bad things in life, pron is one of them, but its optional. too bad Santorum and a lot of right wing ideals don't understand that.

[Jackass18]

I want to ban Rick Santorum

[Jackass18]

The thing is he is right, and you American tards are too stupid to see it.
Porn screws peoples lives. Maybe not yours yet, or ever. But it does effect lives.
Ask a rapist/pedo/serial killer what they got up to in their spare time and warped their brains. Ask the husband leaving his devoted wife for a younger woman. Ask the men with guilt related mental disease. The elimination of porn would only do good for the USA.
I dont know who this man is or what else he stands for but he is right in the above quote.

2/10 on the troll job

[Velocirap31]

If a guy like Santorum is elected, he'll probably continue to ban things that he sees as immoral or corrupt. I could see prohibition 2.0 happening.

[Legend of Josh]

I hAve heard from psychologists that that argument really isn't valid, getting accustomed to porn and violence makes one desensitized to it and almost internalize it to b the norm. Ppl who watch porn often find certain things less objectionable. Will try and find a source

Exactly... once they graduate from porn, it's on to RL things for those nutjobs. Well said G-Train.

[Legend of Josh]

I have a love/hate relationship with the beast (and I'm of course speaking of porn, not the actual beast who'z to blame for the entire mess itself). I recall Dooms making a statement once that I can relate with; saying something to the effect of "that shit doesn't sit well with my soul" ... but wait a minute, there's no such thing!

:hammerhead:

[Legend of Josh]

Oh yeah! That's right, there was no rape or sex crimes before porn. Thanks for the enlightenment guys!

Alcohol and cigarettes alone are exponentially worse than porn.

No one said they were?

Sexual immorality is serious business. I'm talking about in the mental imagery aspect more than the actual rape / sex crime element. It's a bigger ideology behind all of it.

I'm not going to lie, to some degree I am addicted to porn; I think all us males can say the same thing. Over the years, it's evolved into more than just some extreme group sex or orgy thing; now you see sites that offer/promote vicious and sick animation of beasts having sex with what looks to be little girls, etc. I can only imagine, but I'm sure some people gets their rocks off to that shit.

Is that hurting anyone else?

:confusedshrug:

In our limited minds and understanding, no. Looking at the bigger picture, if there is a Creator, is that hurting Him? Yes. Very much so. God made us (especially males, but more and more females too; widely due to porn) into very sexual creatures - however - it was not God who perverted sex, it was us, man.

Sex is supposed to be a wonderful and beautiful thing, with the right person (notice I didn't say persons).

It seems we're entering a modern era of Sodom and Gomorrah. Extreme sexual acts, homosexuals, etc. (sexual immorality) is something we know our Father HIGHLY frowns upon. If you were God, and you created your most prized creation (us) to enjoy sex, but in the right manner, however if we turned our backs on you, I would imagine your feelings would be hurt too.

[Hazard]

Breathing oxygen for an extended amount of time kills you. I think we should ban oxygen. I also hear gravity can be a real bitch as well.

[Jailblazers7]

No one said they were?

Sexual immorality is serious business. I'm talking about in the mental imagery aspect more than the actual rape / sex crime element. It's a bigger ideology behind all of it.

I'm not going to lie, to some degree I am addicted to porn; I think all us males can say the same thing. Over the years, it's evolved into more than just some extreme group sex or orgy thing; now you see sites that offer/promote vicious and sick animation of beasts having sex with what looks to be little girls, etc. I can only imagine, but I'm sure some people gets their rocks off to that shit.

Is that hurting anyone else?

:confusedshrug:

In our limited minds and understanding, no. Looking at the bigger picture, if there is a Creator, is that hurting Him? Yes. Very much so. God made us (especially males, but more and more females too; widely due to porn) into very sexual creatures - however - it was not God who perverted sex, it was us, man.

Sex is supposed to be a wonderful and beautiful thing, with the right person (notice I didn't say persons).

It seems we're entering a modern era of Sodom and Gomorrah. Extreme sexual acts, homosexuals, etc. (sexual immorality) is something we know our Father HIGHLY frowns upon. If you were God, and you created your most prized creation (us) to enjoy sex, but in the right manner, however if we turned our backs on you, I would imagine your feelings would be hurt too.

So we should ban porn and homosexuality (and please no one bring up beastiality, rape, child molestation, or something and make this convo totally worthless) because it doesn't fall into a certain religions system of sexual morality?

[Legend of Josh]

So we should ban porn and homosexuality (and please no one bring up beastiality, rape, child molestation, or something and make this convo totally worthless) because it doesn't fall into a certain religions system of sexual morality?

I realize my views and opinions are in the minority, but I try and imagine " IF " I were our ultimate Creator (which I'm obviously certainly not) how would I view something such as porn in our soceity today?

Let's even put it out there like this: imagine there is no God. There is no Creator. It's just us, and always was us. All the 'sexual immorality' stuff, is it any less negative to our minds and well being as humans on this planet?

[Jailblazers7]

I realize my views and opinions are in the minority, but I try and imagine " IF " I were our ultimate Creator (which I'm obviously certainly not) how would I view something such as porn in our soceity today?

Let's even put it out there like this: imagine there is no God. There is no Creator. It's just us, and always was us. All the 'sexual immorality' stuff, is it any less negative to our minds and well being as humans on this planet?

Exactly, you and Santorum are in the minority which is why it should never be forced upon the majority. The effect of porn is irrelevant because people choose to watch or not to watch it. If we start telling people what they can and can't watch, then at what point do we stop?

And honestly, this whole thing is a total non-issue in the grand scheme of things and the fact that this is a major pillar of his campaign makes him laughable to me as a candidate.

[Legend of Josh]

So we should ban porn and homosexuality (and please no one bring up beastiality, rape, child molestation, or something and make this convo totally worthless) because it doesn't fall into a certain religions system of sexual morality?

Let's see, we're the only creatures on the entire planet who engage in orgies, DPs LOL, etc... as far as I know we are. There's really no other purpose besides heightened sexual arousal, and even at that, I'm sure we can enjoy sex just as much if not more with just a single partner.

There is no place for homosexuality in a world created by God. Homosexuality has no business in a world that was NOT created by God. If we're going to be ignorant and say it's all just mother nature, no 'Father' figure in all this, then OK, but that obviously contradicts the advancement of the human race.

So you asked me the ? ... should they be banned? Yes, especially homosexuality.

[Bosnian Sajo]

No porn...whats there to live for?

[L.Kizzle]

There are more important things he should be worrying about, besides porn.

[$LakerGold]

brb bout to download a shit load of porn videos..

[Hazard]

Let's see, we're the only creatures on the entire planet who engage in orgies, DPs LOL, etc... as far as I know we are. There's really no other purpose besides heightened sexual arousal, and even at that, I'm sure we can enjoy sex just as much if not more with just a single partner.

There is no place for homosexuality in a world created by God. Homosexuality has no business in a world that was NOT created by God. If we're going to be ignorant and say it's all just mother nature, no 'Father' figure in all this, then OK, but that obviously contradicts the advancement of the human race.

So you asked me the ? ... should they be banned? Yes, especially homosexuality.
Achieving heightened sexual arousal and homosexuality don't belong in the same sentence.

[Jailblazers7]

Let's see, we're the only creatures on the entire planet who engage in orgies, DPs LOL, etc... as far as I know we are. There's really no other purpose besides heightened sexual arousal, and even at that, I'm sure we can enjoy sex just as much if not more with just a single partner.

There is no place for homosexuality in a world created by God. Homosexuality has no business in a world that was NOT created by God. If we're going to be ignorant and say it's all just mother nature, no 'Father' figure in all this, then OK, but that obviously contradicts the advancement of the human race.

So you asked me the ? ... should they be banned? Yes, especially homosexuality.

I just don't see anything in this post that is a legitimate reason why homosexuality should be banned by LAW in the US. Ban it within your church but noot the country. We just have totally different viewpoints here.

[Smoke117]

Let's see, we're the only creatures on the entire planet who engage in orgies, DPs LOL, etc... as far as I know we are. There's really no other purpose besides heightened sexual arousal, and even at that, I'm sure we can enjoy sex just as much if not more with just a single partner.

There is no place for homosexuality in a world created by God. Homosexuality has no business in a world that was NOT created by God. If we're going to be ignorant and say it's all just mother nature, no 'Father' figure in all this, then OK, but that obviously contradicts the advancement of the human race.

So you asked me the ? ... should they be banned? Yes, especially homosexuality.

Is this a troll job? If not, **** you and your god because he's not mine.

[Legend of Josh]

Exactly, you and Santorum are in the minority which is why it should never be forced upon the majority. The effect of porn is irrelevant because people choose to watch or not to watch it. If we start telling people what they can and can't watch, then at what point do we stop?

And honestly, this whole thing is a total non-issue in the grand scheme of things and the fact that this is a major pillar of his campaign makes him laughable to me as a candidate.

He is in the minority, which is why he will not be elected. Keep in mind that Romney is a turd, and if HE IS ELECTED how does that make things any different. IMO, between Obama (who will likely win), Romney and Santorum it's a lose-lose-somewhat win-lose situation all around.

I like Santorum's views on some things, but I also feel he's playing the religious card beyond how he personally feels about it. I believe he feels that's his only shot at this, is to go after what they call 'Middle America' ... I mean, if Bush can do it, why can't Santorum?

[joe]

Banning people from watching something because "it is in their best interest" is a slippery slope.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis

[Crystallas]

We need to stop electing powergrabbers into office.

[RidonKs]

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis
that is beautifully put

[Legend of Josh]

I just don't see anything in this post that is a legitimate reason why homosexuality should be banned by LAW in the US. Ban it within your church but noot the country. We just have totally different viewpoints here.

Well, it's not just 'my' church, it's pretty much the entire church in general. I realize this is a very sensitive issue, and I personally have nothing against someone if they choose to be a homosexual. It's their life, not mine. I believe in union laws, however I do not believe marriage should be conducted between a man and a man or a woman and a woman.

I am also against homosexuals adopting children. Two fathers raising a child is not the same as a father and a mother.

I for the most part do believe in separation of church and state. HOWEVER, to completely remove God is foolish IMO. This is just me talking (I don't want posters getting all butt hurt saying "OMG! THAT IS JUST YOUR OPINION! LIKE OMG! YOU DONT REPRESENT US, LIKE OMG!"), but it becomes a slippery slope when you 100% eradicate God from how this country is driven.

People are actually offeneded if someone says "God bless America" ... that is just, well, sad.

Back to the issue of homosexuality... I'm personally an independent; I believe both red and blue have their issues, and the whole Electoral College is a joke, and all it does is deadlock our nation into one of two colors, and it's pick your poison.

The point I'm getting at is that even some extreme liberals still strongly believe marriage is reserved for a man and woman. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it takes pee pee + cooter to reproduce, and furthermore, the ideal household to raise children is with a mother and father.

You feel differently. You feel two grown men, kissing each other in the presence of their 4 year old adopted son is acceptable. Not everyone agrees with you and thinks that shit is alright. Thank God.

[RidonKs]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it takes pee pee + cooter to reproduce, and furthermore, the ideal household to raise children is with a mother and father.
it sure as hell doesn't

[Legend of Josh]

Is this a troll job? If not, **** you and your god because he's not mine.

What exactly does your post represent? Besides the fact it appears you have an issue with people who believe in a God? You're saying "fu*k me" and "fu*k my god" ... and what does that accomplish, exactly?

:confusedshrug:

He's not your god. OK, did you actually have anything productive to add besides you're just another person who hates God?

[joe]

Well, it's not just 'my' church, it's pretty much the entire church in general. I realize this is a very sensitive issue, and I personally have nothing against someone if they choose to be a homosexual. It's their life, not mine. I believe in union laws, however I do not believe marriage should be conducted between a man and a man or a woman and a woman.

I am also against homosexuals adopting children. Two fathers raising a child is not the same as a father and a mother.

I for the most part do believe in separation of church and state. HOWEVER, to completely remove God is foolish IMO. This is just me talking (I don't want posters getting all butt hurt saying "OMG! THAT IS JUST YOUR OPINION! LIKE OMG! YOU DONT REPRESENT US, LIKE OMG!"), but it becomes a slippery slope when you 100% eradicate God from how this country is driven.

People are actually offeneded if someone says "God bless America" ... that is just, well, sad.

Back to the issue of homosexuality... I'm personally an independent; I believe both red and blue have their issues, and the whole Electoral College is a joke, and all it does is deadlock our nation into one of two colors, and it's pick your poison.

The point I'm getting at is that even some extreme liberals still strongly believe marriage is reserved for a man and woman. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it takes pee pee + cooter to reproduce, and furthermore, the ideal household to raise children is with a mother and father.

You feel differently. You feel two grown men, kissing each other in the presence of their 4 year old adopted son is acceptable. Not everyone agrees with you and thinks that shit is alright. Thank God.

Would you want it to be illegal for a gay couple to adopt?

[Legend of Josh]

If God cares so much about two dudes ****ing, then why didn't he make it impossible to get a boner when looking at a sweet, sweet man asshole?

Why didn't God make it impossible for man to lie? How about steal, or murder another human being?

:confusedshrug:

Oh, that's right, God gave us free will. Oh snap! Maybe we'd all be much happier if we were just robots and couldn't think or act on our own!

:applause:

...

:rolleyes:

[Legend of Josh]

Would you want it to be illegal for a gay couple to adopt?

How can you have read what I posted, and ask that ?

[Jailblazers7]

Well, it's not just 'my' church, it's pretty much the entire church in general. I realize this is a very sensitive issue, and I personally have nothing against someone if they choose to be a homosexual. It's their life, not mine. I believe in union laws, however I do not believe marriage should be conducted between a man and a man or a woman and a woman.

I am also against homosexuals adopting children. Two fathers raising a child is not the same as a father and a mother.

I for the most part do believe in separation of church and state. HOWEVER, to completely remove God is foolish IMO. This is just me talking (I don't want posters getting all butt hurt saying "OMG! THAT IS JUST YOUR OPINION! LIKE OMG! YOU DONT REPRESENT US, LIKE OMG!"), but it becomes a slippery slope when you 100% eradicate God from how this country is driven.

People are actually offeneded if someone says "God bless America" ... that is just, well, sad.

Back to the issue of homosexuality... I'm personally an independent; I believe both red and blue have their issues, and the whole Electoral College is a joke, and all it does is deadlock our nation into one of two colors, and it's pick your poison.

The point I'm getting at is that even some extreme liberals still strongly believe marriage is reserved for a man and woman. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it takes pee pee + cooter to reproduce, and furthermore, the ideal household to raise children is with a mother and father.

You feel differently. You feel two grown men, kissing each other in the presence of their 4 year old adopted son is acceptable. Not everyone agrees with you and thinks that shit is alright. Thank God.

The point is that people don't agree and that is why one viewpoint shouldn't be written into law as the way everyone should live. It just doesn't make sense to me and it never will.

[Legend of Josh]

The point is that people don't agree and that is why one viewpoint shouldn't be written into law as the way everyone should live. It just doesn't make sense to me and it never will.

I'm just giving my own personal $0.02. You're doing the same. Your views are your views. My views are my views. Each of us can say the same.

You're basing your views and opinions on how YOU feel personally. I'm basing my views on:

A) God's Word tells us it is against His will for man to sleep with man

B) that is how I personally feel, with or without a god or Creator

C) two dudes humping can't create life, and two dudes (or women) raising children isn't the same as a mother + father combo or father + mother combo.

I'm just trying to keep things logical here... you want to think you're being progressive, ahead of the curve and open minded. Who's to say who's right and who's wrong?

Well, that isn't up for me to decide. Perhaps one day, at some point in time, we'll all know the truth.

[Jailblazers7]

Why didn't God make it impossible for man to lie? How about steal, or murder another human being?

:confusedshrug:

Oh, that's right, God gave us free will. Oh snap! Maybe we'd all be much happier if we were just robots and couldn't think or act on our own!

:applause:

...

:rolleyes:

And maybe we would all be happier if we were all forced to live our lives based on the inclinations of one portion of the population!

[Jailblazers7]

I'm just giving my own personal $0.02. You're doing the same. Your views are your views. My views are my views. Each of us can say the same.

You're basing your views and opinions on how YOU feel personally. I'm basing my views on:

A) God's Word tells us it is against His will for man to sleep with man

B) that is how I personally feel, with or without a god or Creator

C) two dudes humping can't create life, and two dudes (or women) raising children isn't the same and a mother + father combo or father + mother combo.

I'm just trying to keep things logical here... you want to think you're being progressive, ahead of the curve and open minded. Who's to say who's right and who's wrong?

Well, that isn't up for me to decide. Perhaps one day, at some point in time, we'll all know the truth.

I'm basing my views on the belief that everyone should be treated fairly under the law. That's a hell of a lot more logical than our differing opinions.

[Legend of Josh]

And maybe we would all be happier if we were all forced to live our lives based on the inclinations of one portion of the population!

That's how it begins. We look up to our leaders to make change and lead us in the right direction. Just because 85% of the population feels porn should just be left alone, doesn't entirely mean it should be. If we elect officials who want it banned, they WE ELECTED those officials. It's on us. That's democracy.

[Legend of Josh]

You don't have any proof of free will, let alone a God. If we really have free will then why can't two dudes that choose to, freely bang?

If God made man able to do something that he deems reprehensible, then doesn't that make God fallible? Which is literally something that an all powerful God can't be. The ability to sin is a flaw inherent in us, so God done goofed.

A person can have faith if there is no sinning allowed by God. It testing humanity is a petty ass thing to worry about when there's literally billions of things to worry about.

What are you talking about there's no free will? Two dudes CAN bang each other. What's stopping them? Even if you make it illegal, it'll still go on.

There is both good and bad in the world. Light and dark. It's not just black and white and again, all of us are robots. If God created us all to be robots, you could make the argument God is NOT the perfect God.

Because God gave us the ability to make our own choices and decisions, wouldn't that bring Him closer to being a perfect being rather than making us slaves?

:hammerhead:

[Hazard]

Goddamn there's so many flaws in your shitty opinion I don't even know where to begin breaking it apart.

So god created all life, and gave only humans the free will to choose right? So with that thought, you go ahead and say that homosexuality is a choice. Yet there are countless species documented to exhibit homosexual behavior, there are even species without a gender. So explain that for me please, did god **** up or did the devil create them. God just forgot to add that part to the bible? Kinda like the whole dinosaurs not being mentioned a single time in the bible, yet the earth is only 5000 years old. I think you need to do some more thinking about your beliefs.

Here's my opinion, Christianity along with all other religion is a ****ing parasitic creation that eats away at common sense and any human progression to breed hateful, moronic trolls.

[Rake2204]

I am often stumped with one of the reasonings against homosexuality being that two people of the same gender cannot procreate. What is the point to such a reasoning? It seems as if we're overpopulated as a planet as it is. As such, why would it be necessary for gay people to instead find an opposite sex mate and pro-create?

Further, such an obvious and probably re-used opinion, but regarding the adoption of children, I'm betting there's a lot of single-sex couples out there who are 10 times better fit to raise children than certain mother and father couples. I just don't see what the issue there would be. Again, to go the viral route, I think Zach Wahls summed it up quite well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLZO-sObzQ

[Legend of Josh]

Goddamn there's so many flaws in your shitty opinion I don't even know where to begin breaking it apart.

So god created all life, and gave only humans the free will to choose right? So with that thought, you go ahead and say that homosexuality is a choice. Yet there are countless species documented to exhibit homosexual behavior, there are even species without a gender. So explain that for me please, did god **** up or did the devil create them. God just forgot to add that part to the bible? Kinda like the whole dinosaurs not being mentioned a single time in the bible, yet the earth is only 5000 years old. I think you need to do some more thinking about your beliefs.

Here's my opinion, Christianity along with all other religion is a ****ing parasitic creation that eats away at common sense and any human progression to breed hateful, moronic trolls.

You sound ill. We already know your personal stance on how you view God, etc. You beginning your post with GD says as much. That's one thing that seperates your posts from others here who do not believe in God, etc. is that YOU always bash God.

I can respect someone like Jailblazers' opinion much more b/c in a sense, he's not entirely biased, whereas you are, entirely biased. Adding to that, you didn't 'breakdown' any of my the points I made. All of this is entirely opinion. I was just pointing out logic, whereas you make the argument it's OK to be gay, it's God's fault anyway!

BTW... to call me a 'moronic troll' is bit extreme. You have no idea what 'thinking' I have done to arrive where I have, etc. I've been (was) an atheist most of my life. That's besides the point, the main point here is that you're rather highly upset in your post, and you havent even been in this thread until now... LOL.

It's OK man. You can calm down.

[joe]

Further, such an obvious and probably re-used opinion, but regarding the adoption of children, I'm betting there's a lot of single-sex couples out there who are 10 times better fit to raise children than certain mother and father couples. I just don't see what the issue there would be. Again, to go the viral route, I think Zach Wahls summed it up quite well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLZO-sObzQ

Let alone, how many kids in this world are in need of adoption? Kids in war torn, third world nations. Kids without homes, family, or any sort of hope. Even if you think gay-parent homes are worse than straight-parent homes, the alternatives for these kids are horrendous.

[ConanRulesNBC]

This guy is an idiot. But he's sucking up to the south. All of the stupid rednecks/white trash from down south love this guy.

[Hazard]

You sound ill. We already know your personal stance on how you view God, etc. You beginning your post with GD says as much. That's one thing that seperates your posts from others here who do not believe in God, etc. is that YOU always bash God.

I can respect someone like Jailblazers' opinion much more b/c in a sense, he's not entirely biased, whereas you are, entirely biased. Adding to that, you didn't 'breakdown' any of my the points I made. All of this is entirely opinion. I was just pointing out logic, whereas you make the argument it's OK to be gay, it's God's fault anyway!

BTW... to call me a 'moronic troll' is bit extreme. You have no idea what 'thinking' I have done to arrive where I have, etc. I've been (was) an atheist most of my life. That's besides the point, the main point here is that you're rather highly upset in your post, and you havent even been in this thread until now... LOL.

It's OK man. You can calm down.
Your version of God deserves to be bashed. Sorry if ignorance pisses me off and my not being afraid to show it. Besides that all you did in that post was backtrack. As always you address none of my points and make a sad attempt to take the high road and point out my aggression.

Didn't some guy say love thy neighbor unconditionally or some nonsense like that? I guess there's a disclaimer if the dude next door happens to suck dick. One of the many contradictions in the bible. Yet somehow you got people basing their whole belief system off that fairy tale nonsense and it even got into politics somehow. Holy shit America.

[Jackass18]

How can you in one breath give people free will and in another tell them that they'll go to hell if they do or don't do certain things? Free will with scare tactics...

We should ban religion since some people have used it as justification for killing others.

[Legend of Josh]

Jude (there's only a single chapter) 22: "Be merciful to those who doubt; (23) snatch others from the fire and save them."

[Legend of Josh]

Yo Josh what do you think about a single woman or man adopting a child and raising it on their own? (I think people are allowed to do this, I'm basing it on 30 Rock) If children should be raised by a mother and father, should single parent adoption be allowed?

Many children in this world are raised by a single mother or father, 85% of the time, a single mother b/c us men can be sumbags who leave their children high and dry. Yes, I believe that is acceptable, but not ideal.

[Hazard]

Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Protesting a lifestyle is a hell of a way of showing love.

[Legend of Josh]

Your version of God deserves to be bashed. Sorry if ignorance pisses me off and my not being afraid to show it. Besides that all you did in that post was backtrack. As always you address none of my points and make a sad attempt to take the high road and point out my aggression.

Didn't some guy say love thy neighbor unconditionally or some nonsense like that? I guess there's a disclaimer if the dude next door happens to suck dick. One of the many contradictions in the bible. Yet somehow you got people basing their whole belief system off that fairy tale nonsense and it even got into politics somehow. Holy shit America.

Wait, what? Where in anything I posted illustrate that I HATE homosexuals? Homosexuals are people, just like you and I. You're trying to add something to the discussion that I never stated.

People are people, but that doesn't mean I'm going to say anything and everything goes just b/c we all bleed the same color blood.

Get your head together man... don't try and make points as if I made a specific statement like "OMG I HATE GAY PEOPLE!!!" ... "LET THEM ALL BURN IN HELL!" ... that isn't right man.

There you go again, with the whole so played out 'fairy tale' verbage.

:sleeping

All this back and forth is getting none of us anywhere. You want to compare Christ and God to the flyin 'Getti Monster and I say there's more to us than just us creating ourselves. You believe what you do, and vice verse.

You don't have to go calling me a moron and troll b/c I believe what I do. That's rather shallow.

[Hazard]

Not calling you a moron or troll personally, just people that share your rhetoric. I never said you hate gay people, you simply wish them to not exist anymore. Oh but if they must then they shouldn't have any rights. Definitely no hate there.

[Legend of Josh]

Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Protesting a lifestyle is a hell of a way of showing love.

I disagree with homosexuality... so that means I hate homosexuals?

:facepalm

If you want to read the posts in this thread, I think it's fair to say the legit HATING is you hating people and those who believe in a higher power, God, Creator, or whatever.

Your posts simply scream "you're a moron if you believe in God and fairy tales!" ...

I'm not trying to spread hate... I'm just saying I don't agree with homosexuality.

[Hazard]

I disagree with homosexuality... so that means I hate homosexuals?

:facepalm

If you want to read the posts in this thread, I think it's fair to say the legit HATING is you hating people and those who believe in a higher power, God, Creator, or whatever.

Your posts simply scream "you're a moron if you believe in God and fairy tales!" ...

I'm not trying to spread hate... I'm just saying I don't agree with homosexuality.
Disagreeing with a lifestyle and wishing them out of existence are two different things. You seem to go back and forth on your stance whenever you get called out.

[Legend of Josh]

Not calling you a moron or troll personally, just people that share your rhetoric. I never said you hate gay people, you simply wish them to not exist anymore. Oh but if they must then they shouldn't have any rights. Definitely no hate there.

I said I agree with union laws... and it's clear as day who's doing the HATING in this thread.

[Hazard]

I said I agree with union laws... and it's clear as day who's doing the HATING in this thread.
Ok, I HATE ignorance. Happy?

[Legend of Josh]

Disagreeing with a lifestyle and wishing them out of existence are two different things. You seem to go back and forth on your stance whenever you get called out.

I disagree with a homosexual lifestyle, but that doesn't mean they do not exist. Therefore, that's why I said I agree with common union laws, bc people are people. I've pointed this out. I'm not taking a back and forth stance. Not at all.

[Hazard]

I disagree with a homosexual lifestyle, but that doesn't mean they do not exist. Therefore, that's why I said I agree with common union laws, bc people are people. I've pointed this out. I'm not taking a back and forth stance. Not at all.
Ok, so disagree. Live and let live. But here you are harping about how they shouldn't be allowed to marry, adopt kids etc. Having no predisposition to anyone in that situation comes off as somewhat ignorant wouldn't you agree?

[Legend of Josh]

Ok, I HATE ignorance. Happy?

You hate ignorance. See, I could simply turn the tables around and ask you if you've looked in the mirror lately, but by me donig that, I'm just playing the Hazard card... and well, I'm above that.

Your post right here, again, clearly illustrates who's doing the hating in this thread.

Good night mate.

God loves you. Real talk. (and please, do not respond with another "GD THIS! GD YOU! GD YOUR GOD! YOU MORON! YOU TROLL! YOU ARE IGNORANT! I DONT HATE YOU, YOU'RE JUST A MORON, YOU'RE A TROLL, AND YOU'RE IGNORANT!"

:rolleyes:

[Hazard]

You hate ignorance. See, I could simply turn the tables around and ask you if you've looked in the mirror lately, but by me donig that, I'm just playing the Hazard card... and well, I'm above that.

Your post right here, again, clearly illustrates who's doing the hating in this thread.

Good night mate.

God loves you. Real talk. (and please, do not respond with another "GD THIS! GD YOU! GD YOUR GOD! YOU MORON! YOU TROLL! YOU ARE IGNORANT! I DONT HATE YOU, YOU'RE JUST A MORON, YOU'RE A TROLL, AND YOU'RE IGNORANT!"

:rolleyes:
Then don't say ignorant shit... You're a good dude, I have nothing against you on a personal level, but your beliefs are definitely on the ignorant side. Simply because you know nothing about that lifestyle outside of your own personal opinion. Yet you still choose a side. That to me is as ignorant as it gets. No offense.

[LA_Showtime]

Santorum is such a joke. He's the type of candidate who's going to be caught paying a hooker to **** him in the ass.

[flipogb]

I read the title as " Rick Santorum wants to guarantee he loses"

[blablabla]

ban porn and the mafia will regain its old strength
porn prohibation up in this bitch

[brantonli]

I am also against homosexuals adopting children. Two fathers raising a child is not the same as a father and a mother.


I think it used to be said that it takes a village to raise a child, and now it's been whittled down to parents (sometimes even just a single mum/dad). Interesting how times have changed. Just my personal belief that 2 loving parents >>>>>> no parents at all.

[No.45]

I think it used to be said that it takes a village to raise a child, and now it's been whittled down to parents (sometimes even just a single mum/dad). Interesting how times have changed. Just my personal belief that 2 loving parents >>>>>> no parents at all.

It might do more harm than good. If you believe in "absolute truth", then it's easy to see why mother's and father's are important for stable family life. However, if you are a relativist, i.e., you hold no absolute truths such as, killing innocent children is morally wrong everywhere, in any time and place, then there is no such thing as right and wrong, and for you, homosexual marriages are right.
But the facts are...homosexual marriages do not last. They are simply not made for families. Families require stability and the complementarity of a mother and a father.


Here are some stats
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02#edn19

homosexuals are not monogamous...they have multiple partners, and if they are "monogamous" they mutually agree to see other people i.e., "open relationships"

Fidelity for homosexually oriented people is practically impossible. And we're talking about marriage? It would cause even more broken homes!

This is not religious based, it is fact based!

[QUIZZLE]

Where's the guy who told me Santorum had a better chance at this election than Obama? Get out of your hole.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Wow. Everyone should be against a person that bans something just because they don't necessarily agree with it. It's not even about porn.

[Jailblazers7]

It might do more harm than good. If you believe in "absolute truth", then it's easy to see why mother's and father's are important for stable family life. However, if you are a relativist, i.e., you hold no absolute truths such as, killing innocent children is morally wrong everywhere, in any time and place, then there is no such thing as right and wrong, and for you, homosexual marriages are right.
But the facts are...homosexual marriages do not last. They are simply not made for families. Families require stability and the complementarity of a mother and a father.


Here are some stats
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02#edn19

homosexuals are not monogamous...they have multiple partners, and if they are "monogamous" they mutually agree to see other people i.e., "open relationships"

Fidelity for homosexually oriented people is practically impossible. And we're talking about marriage? It would cause even more broken homes!

This is not religious based, it is fact based!

This post is so full of shit. :oldlol:

:oldlol: @ using a source whose mission statement is:


Family Research Council (FRC) champions marriage and family as the foundation of civilization, the seedbed of virtue, and the wellspring of society. FRC shapes public debate and formulates public policy that values human life and upholds the institutions of marriage and the family. Believing that God is the author of life, liberty, and the family, FRC promotes the Judeo-Christian worldview as the basis for a just, free, and stable society.

...as if it is some impartial third party. Yep, not religious based but fact based. :oldlol:

[No.45]

put your ignorance aside and look at the actual facts they used based on empirical research.

[chips93]

any messed up gay parents are better than living in any foster home

[Take Your Lumps]

put your ignorance aside and look at the actual facts they used based on empirical research.

:biggums:

[IcanzIIravor]

It might do more harm than good. If you believe in "absolute truth", then it's easy to see why mother's and father's are important for stable family life. However, if you are a relativist, i.e., you hold no absolute truths such as, killing innocent children is morally wrong everywhere, in any time and place, then there is no such thing as right and wrong, and for you, homosexual marriages are right.
But the facts are...homosexual marriages do not last. They are simply not made for families. Families require stability and the complementarity of a mother and a father.


Here are some stats
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02#edn19

homosexuals are not monogamous...they have multiple partners, and if they are "monogamous" they mutually agree to see other people i.e., "open relationships"

Fidelity for homosexually oriented people is practically impossible. And we're talking about marriage? It would cause even more broken homes!

This is not religious based, it is fact based!

That has a mix of studies from the 1970's to only 2003 from what I've seen and even a number of the studies leave a lot to be desired. It also is a mixed bag taking a study from Canada, a few online survey's and some studies from Europe. The internet one asking how many partners someone has had that had a few ask about thousands made me chuckle. Having been around the foster care system in this country and seeing how broken it is I have no problem if a loving gay couple wants to adopt a kid who would only get lost in our foster care system.

That site is decidedly anti homosexual as well as they are very conservative Christians. Do you have anything more recent as far as studies? Interesting perusing I must say.

[Dictator]

any messed up gay parents are better than living in any foster home

:coleman: :biggums:

[johndeeregreen]

What a knob.

You'll have to excuse me, I thought this was America, and that if consenting adults want to make videos of them banging and share them, that they should be free to do so. Just because YOU don't like something doesn't mean it needs to be illegal. Criminalizing things you don't agree with? GTFO.

[IcanzIIravor]

What a knob.

You'll have to excuse me, I thought this was America, and that if consenting adults want to make videos of them banging and share them, that they should be free to do so. Just because YOU don't like something doesn't mean it needs to be illegal. Criminalizing things you don't agree with? GTFO.

I think he is trying to get as far to the right as possible and collect enough delegates that it forces Romney to have to pick him as the VP candidate. I also would not be surprised if he is hoping to damage Romney enough to hand the Presidency to Obama and set things up for a run in 2016 as most likely a second Obama turn would all but insure the GOP takes the White House in 2016 if the GOP plays it smart. This is Romney's last rodeo and they all know it.

[Dictator]

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! If you guys have read the bible...you should know what will happen if obama 's still running things......NOOOOOOO!!! :( :eek: :cry:

[oh the horror]

There are members in this very thread that make me not surprised that Santorum is getting votes.

[50inchvertical]

What a knob.

You'll have to excuse me, I thought this was America, and that if consenting adults want to make videos of them banging and share them, that they should be free to do so. Just because YOU don't like something doesn't mean it needs to be illegal. Criminalizing things you don't agree with? GTFO.
That's pretty typical of the Republican Party actually. And ironically, one of their man complaints about Obama is that "Big Government" is imposing too much into people's lives where it shouldn't be and they want to make it smaller.

[Nanners]

Here are some stats
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02#edn19

homosexuals are not monogamous...they have multiple partners, and if they are "monogamous" they mutually agree to see other people i.e., "open relationships"

Fidelity for homosexually oriented people is practically impossible. And we're talking about marriage? It would cause even more broken homes!

This is not religious based, it is fact based!

One of the most absolutely retarded posts i have read in a while. Im suprised that i dont recognize the poster, usually nonsense propaganda like this comes from known trolls like Bladers or Nick Young. You are actually claiming that fidelity for homosexuals is impossible? :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

Rick must be gay


http://www.glamdolls.com/galleries/mariah_milano_bikini_pics/mariah_milano_bikini_pics_001.jpg

[Dictator]

No point considering all the othersituations going on in America now.

[LBJMVP]

you can take anything you want from me.... but dont you dare take me porn.

[bluechox2]

he wants it all for himself

[DevilsAssassin]

:coleman: :biggums: :yaohappy: :kobe: :lebroncry: :lebron: :crazysam: :cletus:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Porn is only the biggest f#cking industry in the world and Santorum (a supposedly big business Republican) wants to shut it down? More proof you have to be stupid to vote GOP.