Ramon Sessions vs. Jeremy Lin: Who is the better player?

[IGOTGAME]

Both guys have spent time in the d-league.

Both guys have been handed the keys to one of the most talented teams in the league.

Both guys are very quick.

Who is the better player now?

[Teanett]

seriously?

15/6/45% vs 10/5/39%

are you stephen a smith?

[blablabla]

lin

[SacJB Shady]

Linsanity

[Deuce Bigalow]

I really like Top Ramon, but you can't go wrong with Linning games

[FKAri]

Jeremy Lin is the better overall player but I think Ramon's a more polished, solid player that can help more teams. Also, Ramon can really thrive on the Lakers. Sessions is EXACTLY what the Lakers need.

[niko]

Probably Lin at this point. I really like Sessions game but i feel like at this point Lin might be able to work through some of his limitations but i'm not sure Session can. Probably unfair a bit.

[SacJB Shady]

Jeremy Lin is the better overall player but I think Ramon's a more polished, solid player that can help more teams. Also, Ramon can really thrive on the Lakers. Sessions is EXACTLY what the Lakers need.



they just lost to utah

[DaHeezy]

Goran Dragic > both

[InfiniteBaskets]

I'd rather have Lin on the Heat than Sessions, but both would be rotational players only.

Overall I'd take Lin because I've seen what he can do in the best case scenario, and I've seen a few games where he's played poor to average. I'd still take that over what Sessions can provide.

[iDunk]

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Sessions

[TAZORAC]

Lin turns the ball over too much, I'll take Sessions

[RazorBaLade]

if the lakers had lin for linsanity he would have been rendered catatonic from all the ***** thrown at him in LA. wouldnt be able to play with no fluid in his body

for this reason I take sessions. he might not be a star like lin might be on some nights but he doesnt get turnovers and is a lot less rocky

[Chapallaz]

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[Smoove&Melo]

Lin > Rondo

Get mad

[Godzuki]

Lin of course...

Sessions does have better handles and better drive capability but Lin has better everything else.

[DMV2]

Lin is better right now and will still have a chance to be better. Sessions will just be a PG behind Kobe, Bynum and Gasol.

There's already been a few games where Lin has outplayed Amare, Melo and Chandler. Lin is supposed to be the 3rd or 4th best playmaker on the team but with Amare's & Melo's inconsistency it gives Lin more opportunity to shine.

Lin isn't and won't likely be in the Rose, Rondo, Westbrook, Deron, Nash, Paul, Parker class of elite PG's. But I do think Lin can be comparable with PG's like Conley, Holiday, Lou Williams, Lawson, Harris(when he was in NJ), Nelson, etc. Points guards who can, from time to time, be their team's best player on any given game.

[Tinseltime17]

Lin, he would be a better fit in LA as well.

[Jotaro Durant]

sessions

[Bigsmoke]

Jeremy Lin

[WeGetRing2012]

Sessions more control and less turnovers. He also knows how to get his teammates shots.

[bsyde82]

Why are people still acting like Lin is in the midst of his 8 game winning streak?

His play has drastically declined since then in terms of production, and some of his glaring weaknesses are now more visible than before.

And yes, I've seen many of his games and I see a pretty average player - borderline starter at this point. In fact, probably the one thing that'll keep him in the starting lineup despite his declining play is the marketing angle. That's it.

[pnyozzzoo]

Why are people still acting like Lin is in the midst of his 8 game winning streak?

His play has drastically declined since then in terms of production, and some of his glaring weaknesses are now more visible than before.

And yes, I've seen many of his games and I see a pretty average player - borderline starter at this point. In fact, probably the one thing that'll keep him in the starting lineup despite his declining play is the marketing angle. That's it.
Rofl, to summarize all the gibberish you just wrote, he is a MARGINAL PLAYER.

Ladies and gentlemen, we just found out Stephen A. Smith's ISH account!!!:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[bsyde82]

Rofl, to summarize all the gibberish you just wrote, he is a MARGINAL PLAYER.

Ladies and gentlemen, we just found out Stephen A. Smith's ISH account!!!:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Nice intelligent counter-post.

This forum is populated with fanboys. I get that. But there are many others in addition to Stephen A that don't buy Lin as anything beyond an average player. To be so convinced of your own opinion on Lin that you have to ROFL LOL at anything that contradicts your opinion is laughable.

[strifed169]

Sounds like everyone is forgetting Lin is still virtually a rookie learning on the fly in a condensed season at the most toughest position in the league. The Linsanity stretch showed what he is truly capable of at his full potential(allstar) if you think otherwise youre most likely just hating on him cause of the fanbase (like every other hater)

[SwooshReturns]

All of them are average PGs ... Brandon Jennings, Jermey Lin, Ramon Sessions ... blah, nothing special.

[clayton]

Both are on a team that gets them overrated.

[CelticBaller]

Lin > Rondo

Get mad
the only one mad here was lin after that whoopin rondo gave him
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Godzuki]

the only one mad here was lin after that whoopin rondo gave him
:roll: :roll: :roll:


you mean Rose after that block Lin gave him

he's still mad :oldlol:

[pnyozzzoo]

the only one mad here was lin after that whoopin rondo gave him
:roll: :roll: :roll:
lol, Rondo should be mad that his skill sets and ego makes him untradable and stuck in the sinking ship of a Celtics team.

Good luck living the the past memory for the rest of your lottery nba career.

[CelticBaller]

lol, Rondo should be mad that his skill sets and ego makes him untradable and stuck in the sinking ship of a Celtics team.

Good luck living the the past memory for the rest of your lottery nba career.
and your point is?
Celtics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Knicks
Rondo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lin

[toxicxr6]

Incredible! A month ago everything was linsanity... People saying top 3 pg.. Possible MVP...now he is being compared to sessions..

How the linsane world has completely caved in!

[Micku]

Well...as a starter Lin is averaging, not counting today:

19 ppg ,3.8 rpg, and 8.1 apg on 45% FG in 35 mpg in 21 games.

Post All Star Lin is averaging:

15.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, and 7.4 apg on 42.5% FG in 32.0 mpg in 10 games.


Sessions as a starter was averaging:

17.8 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 11.0 apg, on 45.5% FG in 36.7 mpg in 4 games.

Post All Star:

10.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 4.3 apg, on 42.6% FG in 22.0 mpg in 12 games.



Sessions is a more polish player. He is better at his ball handling and more polish at driving. Lin is more awkward at handling the ball and driving, but he is statistically a better shooter at the mid-range, but Sessions is the better 3pt. Lin seems the better offensively player though.

I would take Lin than Sessions, but Sessions need a start to show more what he could do.

[BrooklynZoo]

Why are people still acting like Lin is in the midst of his 8 game winning streak?

His play has drastically declined since then in terms of production, and some of his glaring weaknesses are now more visible than before.

And yes, I've seen many of his games and I see a pretty average player - borderline starter at this point. In fact, probably the one thing that'll keep him in the starting lineup despite his declining play is the marketing angle. That's it.


Theyre comparing his versus RAMON SESSIONS :hammerhead: :hammerhead: . If he was in the midst of the streak there's no way sessions gets ANY consideration

[qrich]

Give me Sessions 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.

[Kingwillball]

Lin is better.. Cmon now

[IGOTGAME]

both guys played pretty well tonight.

[FKAri]

Can we stop these Jeremy Lin comparison threads? For the love of MJ.

[IGOTGAME]

Lin is better.. Cmon now

c'mon man...

[Jailblazers7]

Without hesitation, Sessions is better. Not a tough choice at all.

[SMoKe0uT]

Without hesitation, Sessions is better. Not a tough choice at all.


I concur, more solid and refined. His J is improving too.

[Mr. Jabbar]

I don't want to sound racist but I'm picking any nig.ga over an assian

[StacksOnDeck]

Sessions is better at driving, penetrating, he's faster and he's less turnover prone than Lin. Lin probably has a better jumper and his defense is better. Give me Sessions. I don't think Lin could put up these numbers in LA.

[Stern]

Sessions

[LBJMVP]

sessions...

people forget this how good this guy can be.
multiple 20 assist game (i think) and we kyrie was out with a concussion and he got starter minutes, his stats were great.

[Jailblazers7]

I don't want to sound racist but I'm picking any nig.ga over an assian

:oldlol:

[yobore]

Sessions was linsanity before linsanity. He came out of nowhere and dominated a few games too but not for the Knicks.

[BrooklynZoo]

argument is almost irrelevant at this point. if lin had a couple good games and sessions had a couple bad ones, people would say lin n vice versa

[StacksOnDeck]

argument is almost irrelevant at this point. if lin had a couple good games and sessions had a couple bad ones, people would say lin n vice versa

Except Ramon has been doing this for a while now.

[Jailblazers7]

argument is almost irrelevant at this point. if lin had a couple good games and sessions had a couple bad ones, people would say lin n vice versa

Nope Sessions is just the better player right now.

[LoneyROY7]

I don't want to sound racist but I'm picking any nig.ga over an assian

http://gifs.gifbin.com/sw50sw8sw578.gif

[spiegel]

I'll take Dragic over both of them right now

[lakerfreak]

If you compare the pointguards and how they provide the team with what is needed, then you rank them both at the same.

Jeremy Lin however is a much better scorer and can explode when other teams are not careful. The problem with Lin is he turns it over way too much which can be due to his lack of NBA experience. I expect the TO numbers to go down over time.

Sessions has proven that he can be a starter in this league as he played in quite a few seasons with a few different teams, and came away successful with each team. He's grasping this opportunity and making the most of it.

Now, which of the two is a traditional and "true" point guard? I will say Sessions is.

[DirtySanchez]

I'll take Dragic over both of them right now

Yeah dude is balling

Any how I want to see Sessions against Westbrook D Will etc. we shall see.

[StacksOnDeck]

If you compare the pointguards and how they provide the team with what is needed, then you rank them both at the same.

Jeremy Lin however is a much better scorer and can explode when other teams are not careful. The problem with Lin is he turns it over way too much which can be due to his lack of NBA experience. I expect the TO numbers to go down over time.

Sessions has proven that he can be a starter in this league as he played in quite a few seasons with a few different teams, and came away successful with each team. He's grasping this opportunity and making the most of it.

Now, which of the two is a traditional and "true" point guard? I will say Sessions is.

How the f*ck is Lin a much better scorer? Sessions has been doing Lin numbers whenever he started on any teams he's been on. His career high is 44. A much better scorer? :biggums:

[1987_Lakers]

Sessions is much more craftier and careful with the ball, he so smooth when he has the ball in his hands. Lin is a better scorer (slightly), and both are comparable passers. And they both need to work on their defensive skills.

[BallsOut]

If you compare the pointguards and how they provide the team with what is needed, then you rank them both at the same.

Jeremy Lin however is a much better scorer and can explode when other teams are not careful. The problem with Lin is he turns it over way too much which can be due to his lack of NBA experience. I expect the TO numbers to go down over time.

Sessions has proven that he can be a starter in this league as he played in quite a few seasons with a few different teams, and came away successful with each team. He's grasping this opportunity and making the most of it.

Now, which of the two is a traditional and "true" point guard? I will say Sessions is.

So Lin is a good scorer now based on what 15 games? Sessions has proven himself to be a solid backup throughout his career and produces huge numbers when given minutes. He even had a 42pt game once. That's higher than Lin's career high, 38, against none other than Derek Fisher :rolleyes:

Sessions has done what Lin's done throughout his career minus the turnovers, with little to no fanfare. Lin has regressed and its no coincidence. I'll take Ramon any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

[PP34Deuce]

Sessions is much more craftier and careful with the ball, he so smooth when he has the ball in his hands. Lin is a better scorer (slightly), and both are comparable passers. And they both need to work on their defensive skills.

I think Jeremy Lin potentially will be a better shooter...Thats it.

Sessions is not 100% a true point, but he's very good at picking up his dribble to make the right play. Defensively he has more potential to me because he does have quicker lateral feet.

[midatlantic09]

Sessions

[inclinerator]

lin is basically a rookie, so sessions 4 now

[GOBB]

lin is basically a rookie, so sessions 4 now

No he's not. :oldlol:

[IGOTGAME]

No he's not. :oldlol:

apparently, training camps(learning NBA sets and defenses) and practices and an off season working on the weaknesses learned doing this things doesn't constitute a rookie year. I never new that rookies were guaranteed to play a lot there rookie year... guess those practices against Monta and Steph meant nothing.

[knickscity]

I think the real question is...why are these two even being compared?

A 5 year player vs a 2 year player that aren't remotely similar in playing style?

[knickscity]

No he's not. :oldlol:
I like that avy sir.

[IGOTGAME]

I think the real question is...why are these two even being compared?

A 5 year player vs a 2 year player that aren't remotely similar in playing style?

there are a lot of similarities.

although, such things are not necessary for a comparison.

[Alamo]

Sessions is better

[knickscity]

there are a lot of similarities.

although, such things are not necessary for a comparison.
How are they similar other than, both played in the D-league?

One is a converted scoring guard, while the other is more pass first.

Alot? Honestly there are virtually no similarities.

[IGOTGAME]

How are they similar other than, both played in the D-league?

One is a converted scoring guard, while the other is more pass first.

Alot? Honestly there are virtually no similarities.

they both have played in the D league.

Both are athletic and have the ability to finish at the rim. This is pretty rare for pgs.

Both are quick and have a good change of pace.

Both have somewhat questionable jumpers...or they were at least questionable in the past.

Both play the pick and roll well.

Both have been handed the keys to run a stacked team.

Both are tasked with navigating an offense that must utilize an elite isolation player.

Both in huge media markets.

[knickscity]

they both have played in the D league.

Both are athletic and have the ability to finish at the rim. This is pretty rare for pgs.

Both are quick and have a good change of pace.

Both have somewhat questionable jumpers...or they were at least questionable in the past.

Both play the pick and roll well.

Both have been handed the keys to run a stacked team.

Both are tasked with navigating an offense that must utilize an elite isolation player.

Both in huge media markets.

So they're similar basically because they have been put in similar situations?

Ok, I'll just pick my player Lin.

[jjayfive]

Sessions... Lin is nice, but he shoots a lot and he's a bit too streak..

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Who's better, Jeremy Lin or Derek Fisher?

[50inchvertical]

Sessions easily.

[boxclever]

Sessions quite comfortably tbh

[BrooklynZoo]

Nope Sessions is just the better player right now.

ok but now all the sessions lovers come out of the woodwork?

[BlitzForce]

I love my FAP sessions