Knicks will make run. A more offensive 2008 Celtics.

[fubu05]

They're playing top 5 defense past three games. Just smothering teams from beginning to start. They're balancing out scoring, VERY balanced scoring. And personally, I can't help but see the Celtics. The defense isn't as good as those Celtics, but the offense is better.

You've got Chandler, the defensive anchor(KG).

You've got JR Smith, Novak guys that stretch the floor with the 3 (Ray Allen).

You've got a big that stretches the floor with a jumper, KG/STAT.

You've got your primary scorer, Melo. And these past few games, he's been very Paul-Pierce like. He's picking his spots, he's passing more, taking less shots, getting things in the flow of the offense. Like those transition/pull-up threes that Pierce hits, Melo has been doing more of.

They've got a dynamic PG with Lin/Baron (Rondo).

A very deep bench.

And now, you've got this whole collectiveness on defense. Guys who before weren't known for defending, are now putting in the work. Amar'e is hedging out on PnRs, Melo is bodying up his man and showing great footwork on D. Kind of like when you saw Pierce change that year with the arrival of KG.

I just see more and more of the Celtics with this Knicks squad. And I think what people underestimate about those Celtics is their offense. They were an incredibly efficient offensive team. Sure their defense was amazing, but their offense was pretty darn good. Why? Because they spread it around, on any given night you didn't know who would hurt you. Could be Melo(Pierce), Amar'e(KG), Novak/JR(Ray), Lin(Rondo). They had too many weapons.

Thoughts? Anyways these are just my 2 cents.

[blablabla]

easy fella

[stallionaire]

Talent isn't enough to win games.

If the Knicks make it to the playoffs they will not pass the first round. Period.

[teddytwelvetoes]

:biggums:

[FindingTim]

I think NY is capable of a deep playoff run. the pieces are there. just gotta gel and get rollin.

[Kews1]

.

You've got Chandler, the defensive anchor(KG).

They've got a dynamic PG with Lin/Baron (Rondo).

Could be Melo(Pierce), Amar'e(KG), Novak/JR(Ray), Lin(Rondo). They had too many weapons.

.

:biggums:

All of the knicks are budget versions.

[RRR3]

They're offensive all right

[sipitri]

IMHO they lack the most important thing: defense. I don't know if Stoudemire and Anthony can be a succesfull tandem, they are really lazy on D..

[Sarcastic]

Talent isn't enough to win games.

If the Knicks make it to the playoffs they will not pass the first round. Period.

Wow, you still salty from that game earlier this year?

[asdf1990]

Lol knicks and lol at melo making it out of the first round

[iDunk]

These fools aren't worth our words of truth, they'll see soon enough.

[Owl]

They're playing top 5 defense past three games. Just smothering teams from beginning to start. They're balancing out scoring, VERY balanced scoring. And personally, I can't help but see the Celtics. The defense isn't as good as those Celtics, but the offense is better.

You've got Chandler, the defensive anchor(KG).

You've got JR Smith, Novak guys that stretch the floor with the 3 (Ray Allen).

You've got a big that stretches the floor with a jumper, KG/STAT.

You've got your primary scorer, Melo. And these past few games, he's been very Paul-Pierce like. He's picking his spots, he's passing more, taking less shots, getting things in the flow of the offense. Like those transition/pull-up threes that Pierce hits, Melo has been doing more of.

They've got a dynamic PG with Lin/Baron (Rondo).

A very deep bench.

And now, you've got this whole collectiveness on defense. Guys who before weren't known for defending, are now putting in the work. Amar'e is hedging out on PnRs, Melo is bodying up his man and showing great footwork on D. Kind of like when you saw Pierce change that year with the arrival of KG.

I just see more and more of the Celtics with this Knicks squad. And I think what people underestimate about those Celtics is their offense. They were an incredibly efficient offensive team. Sure their defense was amazing, but their offense was pretty darn good. Why? Because they spread it around, on any given night you didn't know who would hurt you. Could be Melo(Pierce), Amar'e(KG), Novak/JR(Ray), Lin(Rondo). They had too many weapons.

Thoughts? Anyways these are just my 2 cents.
The 2008 Boston Celtics had one of the great 1 year runs there ever was. 3 perrenial all-stars and Hall of Famers (one top 20 all-time the other 2 usually somewhere in the top 60) albeit just coming off their primes, epic defense, 13th on all time regular season SRS rankings (margin of victory, adjusted for schedule).
And you're comparing these Knicks to them!?!

[LABean]

I hate the Celtics, especially the 08 Celtics, but comparing the Knicks to them is stupid. :lol :lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

Lin and Rondo is an atrocious comparison. Stat and KG are also different in the extreme. Other than that, I have no idea why the hell you think the Knicks have the Celtics' Championship D.

[AMISTILLILL]

Bookmarked for future LOL's.

[niko]

Great premise aside from the fact it's based on only 3 games, and even if these 3 games were telling our team isn't anything like the Celtics in the team makeup, talent level, type of players or how we play.

Other than that, fantastic.

[strifed169]

Seeing Amare hedging out on screens to help Lin was amazing

[FKAri]

This thread....why? Why?


Lin and Rondo is an atrocious comparison. Stat and KG are also different in the extreme. Other than that, I have no idea why the hell you think the Knicks have the Celtics' Championship D.

Lin and Rondo-07/08 is the best comparison.

Rondo was so doubted and people didnt think he was worthy of starting on the team and the Celtics needed to get a PG. Like Lin, he blew away people's expectations. Both the same age. Both with eerily similar stats.

[Real Men Wear Green]

This thread....why? Why?



Lin and Rondo-07/08 is the best comparison.

Rondo was so doubted and people didnt think he was worthy of starting on the team and the Celtics needed to get a PG. Like Lin, he blew away people's expectations. Both the same age. Both with eerily similar stats.
Lin is a scorer. Rondo is/was not. Lin is a turnover machine. Rondo is/was not. Rondo is/was a great defender. Lin is average. The only area where Lin is Rondo's match is shooting ability, where he blows away Rondo but so does everyone.

[FKAri]

Lin is a scorer. Rondo is/was not. Lin is a turnover machine. Rondo is/was not. Rondo is/was a great defender. Lin is average. The only area where Lin is Rondo's match is shooting ability, where he blows away Rondo but so does everyone.

I guess I'm comparing their situations. Rondo's certainly more of a pass-first PG but Lin can make great plays/passes. In the last few games some teams have forced him to score and cut off passing lanes (smart plan) and he's just taken those shots. Woodson (with a smart adjustment) got Melo to bring the ball up on several possessions because you want to avoid doing what an opponent's defense wants you to do.

[ralph_i_el]

yup, they're just like the 2008 celtics, but with inferior players and less chemistry.
:facepalm

[outbreak]

Horrible comparison. Nothing alike at all. Every player on the knicks roster is a step down from their celtics comparison. First round knock out if they make it

[Bigsmoke]

i dont know man.

Amare isnt looking like Amare...let alone a hungry KG :lol

The Knicks aren't going anywhere unless they get that 6th spot.

[TonyD]

I actually like the Knicks, but this thread makes me want to see them get swept in the first round, or better yet get pushed out of the playoffs by the Bucks.

[iggy>]

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm

[Celtic_Pride]

3 straight wins and here we go..

[zay_24]

:lol :lol

[Doranku]

...the f*ck?

Celtics were one of the best defensive teams in the last 20+ years who had three star players sacrifice their own personal stats for the sake of building a championship team.

The Knicks play no defense, best player is cancer Melo who is a blackhole, Amare who is allergic to anything having to do with defense or rebounding, and have PGs who make better passes to the other team than they do to their own players.


What an awful comparison.

[Nash]

"Top 5 defense last 3 games"

Yep, that seals the deal then.

[Smoke117]

Three straight wins towards the latter half of the season and now they're the 08 Celtics in terms of defense huh? :facepalm :roll:

You hear the dumbest god damn shit about the Knicks I swear.

[SwooshReturns]

You hear the dumbest god damn shit about the Knicks I swear.
I know ... New York fans

:facepalm

[embersyc]

Knicks fans never give up, most dedicated out there clearly. It doesn't matter how bad the Knicks get they are always a short win-streak away from their delusional fans anointing themselves championship-contenders.

Reality-check Knicks fans, the Knicks are not a .500 team as currently constructed.

They will struggle to beat the Bucks for the 8th seed and the privilege to get tossed by Chicago in the first round.

The Knicks play about as good as 2008 Celtics doodoo stains.

[EnoughSaid]

Are you kidding me?! This team is full of people who can't play with eachother, and when they face a good time like the Heat or Bulls, they'll get wrecked.

[knicksman]

...the f*ck?

Celtics were one of the best defensive teams in the last 20+ years who had three star players sacrifice their own personal stats for the sake of building a championship team.

The Knicks play no defense, best player is cancer Melo who is a blackhole, Amare who is allergic to anything having to do with defense or rebounding, and have PGs who make better passes to the other team than they do to their own players.


What an awful comparison.

melo and amare are sacrificing stats too. The reason why melo is attempting so much because of dantoni not holding his players accountable. Melo wasnt attempting 30+ shot attempts until he got tired of douglas, shumpert and other players attempting 20+ shooting only 25%. And most of them are jumpers. Now that the coach is fired, hes back to being a team player. He doesnt care about touches as long as anyone who wants to score wouldnt settle for 3s.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It took a while but my brain has just processed that someone compared Novak and JR Smith to Ray Allen.

[kNIOKAS]

They're playing top 5 defense past three games. Just smothering teams from beginning to start. They're balancing out scoring, VERY balanced scoring. And personally, I can't help but see the Celtics. The defense isn't as good as those Celtics, but the offense is better.

You've got Chandler, the defensive anchor(KG).

You've got JR Smith, Novak guys that stretch the floor with the 3 (Ray Allen).

You've got a big that stretches the floor with a jumper, KG/STAT.

You've got your primary scorer, Melo. And these past few games, he's been very Paul-Pierce like. He's picking his spots, he's passing more, taking less shots, getting things in the flow of the offense. Like those transition/pull-up threes that Pierce hits, Melo has been doing more of.

They've got a dynamic PG with Lin/Baron (Rondo).

A very deep bench.

And now, you've got this whole collectiveness on defense. Guys who before weren't known for defending, are now putting in the work. Amar'e is hedging out on PnRs, Melo is bodying up his man and showing great footwork on D. Kind of like when you saw Pierce change that year with the arrival of KG.

I just see more and more of the Celtics with this Knicks squad. And I think what people underestimate about those Celtics is their offense. They were an incredibly efficient offensive team. Sure their defense was amazing, but their offense was pretty darn good. Why? Because they spread it around, on any given night you didn't know who would hurt you. Could be Melo(Pierce), Amar'e(KG), Novak/JR(Ray), Lin(Rondo). They had too many weapons.

Thoughts? Anyways these are just my 2 cents.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc489/niokulis/j92gev.gif

[Stern]

Atleast make the playoffs first.

Stupid Knick fans never learn :lol

[MeLO MvP 15]

Yes. But only if everyone is willing to sacrifice to allow for the betterment of the team like we saw Boston's vets do and have seen in the last 3 games.

The team is constructed a little differently with more youth and an actual center, but worse individual defenders. Chandler is much better than Perkins/PJ. Lin right now is better than Rondo was then. Garnett was better than Amar'e right now. Pierce and Melo are about the same but Pierce went crazy in the playoffs. NY has more talent on the bench too. Boston had Cassel, House, Powe, Posey and Brown... good vets but didn't have much left. NY's bench is much more explosive but less consistent.

[JGXEN]

If the Knicks win another 3 games, ya'll gonna hear comparisons of the team to the 86' Celtics, 87' Lakers or even 96' Bulls. There ya go folks, dumbest fanbase in the NBA, the New York Knicks fans

[Real Men Wear Green]

Yes. But only if everyone is willing to sacrifice to allow for the betterment of the team like we saw Boston's vets do and have seen in the last 3 games.

The team is constructed a little differently with more youth and an actual center, but worse individual defenders. Chandler is much better than Perkins/PJ. Lin right now is better than Rondo was then. Garnett was better than Amar'e right now. Pierce and Melo are about the same but Pierce went crazy in the playoffs. NY has more talent on the bench too. Boston had Cassel, House, Powe, Posey and Brown... good vets but didn't have much left. NY's bench is much more explosive but less consistent.How the hell do Knick fans think they're at all close to an NBA Champion?

[KingBeasley08]

HOW'D I MISS THIS THREAD?

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:facepalm

[LoneyROY7]

I honestly hope you're right...I want to see 'Melo shake off these haters. I like Lin, JR, Chandler, etc.

But it still remains to be seen...let them get over .500 first.

[bagelred]

The OP forgot our defensive stoppers: Shumpert and Jeffries. :no:

[knickscity]

I get where the OP is coming from, but it's only been three games.

[airchibundo507]

3rd or 4th best team in the conference with the potential to be even better. if the Knicks escape the 7th and 8th seeds they will make a deep postseason run and present Miami more of a challenge than Chicago can.

[MeLO MvP 15]

3rd or 4th best team in the conference with the potential to be even better. if the Knicks escape the 7th and 8th seeds they will make a deep postseason run and present Miami more of a challenge than Chicago can.
This is what I've been saying.

It'll be hard or near impossible to beat Chicago or Miami in the first round, but I love our chances against every other team (Indiana, Atlanta, Orlando, Philly and Boston/Milwaukee). And I know we'd most likely have to run into at least one of Chicago/Miami but I think facing them in the 2nd round would be much better for this team considering we've seen how much momentum ways on them. When they're good, they're great and when they're bad, they're horrendous. Coming off a first round win would give us a lot of momentum against every other team. Add that to our immense talent and new found chemistry and I like our odds.

[iggy>]

Bucks>knicks

If the Knicks are lucky enough to make the playoffs they will be swept out of the first round, again.

[iDunk]

If the Knicks beat the Bulls in the 1st round, they're a lock for the conference finals. No way will they lose to the Pacers or 76ers in the 2nd round after beating the best in the 1st with all that momentum.

[tmacattack33]

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[D-Wade316]

They're playing top 5 defense past three games. Just smothering teams from beginning to start. They're balancing out scoring, VERY balanced scoring. And personally, I can't help but see the Celtics. The defense isn't as good as those Celtics, but the offense is better.

You've got Chandler, the defensive anchor(KG).

You've got JR Smith, Novak guys that stretch the floor with the 3 (Ray Allen).

You've got a big that stretches the floor with a jumper, KG/STAT.

You've got your primary scorer, Melo. And these past few games, he's been very Paul-Pierce like. He's picking his spots, he's passing more, taking less shots, getting things in the flow of the offense. Like those transition/pull-up threes that Pierce hits, Melo has been doing more of.

They've got a dynamic PG with Lin/Baron (Rondo).

A very deep bench.

And now, you've got this whole collectiveness on defense. Guys who before weren't known for defending, are now putting in the work. Amar'e is hedging out on PnRs, Melo is bodying up his man and showing great footwork on D. Kind of like when you saw Pierce change that year with the arrival of KG.

I just see more and more of the Celtics with this Knicks squad. And I think what people underestimate about those Celtics is their offense. They were an incredibly efficient offensive team. Sure their defense was amazing, but their offense was pretty darn good. Why? Because they spread it around, on any given night you didn't know who would hurt you. Could be Melo(Pierce), Amar'e(KG), Novak/JR(Ray), Lin(Rondo). They had too many weapons.

Thoughts? Anyways these are just my 2 cents.
Comparing the '08 Celtics to the '12 Knicks :yaohappy:

[sodap]

lol man, you are talking about one of the greatest teams of the last 20 years, you cant even compare knicks to such an excellent team as '08 celtics. one of the greatest players of all time, kobe, couldnt beat them with an excellent supporting cast if not because of injuries in '09

[Dwade305]

:yaohappy: Knicks fans drop to much knowledge on ISH

[rfoster24]

i came in here simply to look at all the commenys making fun of the op.:lol

[chips93]

3 wins in a row, and knick fans are thinking championship

:kobe:

[RRR3]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: @ Knicks fans thinking they have a chance against the Heat or the Bulls. They don't even have a chance against the Magic.

[Jameerthefear]

"Knicks will make run. A more offensive 2008 Celtics."
http://i.imgur.com/4g1me.gif

[SevereUpInHere]

Sigh...

No wonder everyone hates us :(

We've still got huge issues, losing D'antoni is a huge win, but we have a hell of a lot of improvement to make. 08 Celtics is a terrible comparison.

We need to get up above 6th seed to even have a shot at even making it out of the 1st round.

[Smoove&Melo]

What people dont understand is this is a new knick team without dan****** holdin us back.


But you'll see soon enuff.

[imdaman99]

the mighty celtics, the same team that only won 1 championship with 3 superstars?

obviously i would trade that 1 championship for what i have seen as a knicks fan, but lets calm down on talking about how great the celtics have been. let me repeat, 1 championship. lakers have since won 2. so get over yourselves talking about how mighty and unbeatable the celtics have been. clearly i know the 2008 celtics > this knicks team or likely any recent knicks team, but calm down with your 1 championship. dynasty it is not.

[BlackVVaves]

The Knicks play defense well for 4 days in 3 games against 2 teams, and all of a sudden they are the Champion 08 Celtics, better offensively?

Sigh. Just like the Knicks were the 3rd best team in the East, capable of beating the Bulls in a 7 game series, and were ECF bound, before Melo returned and they fell back into the average team they are right now.

Knicks have the potential to do big things. Guess what? So does about 5 teams every year before reality sits in, history drags on and years later we realize how truly mediocre those teams were, with no rings, no finals, no conference finals appearances.

Can we wait and see which side of the fence this Knicks team falls on before we pretend they've done shit? For ****s sake it's been three games, their record clearly indicates they have been less than average this year.

[PHaYze]

More similar to the 06-07 Celtics

[Celtic_Pride]

the mighty celtics, the same team that only won 1 championship with 3 superstars?

so get over yourselves talking about how mighty and unbeatable the celtics have been.

Rondo-Allen-Pierce-KG-Perkins lineup never lost a playoff series. So obviously health was a huge issue preventing that team to win multiple 'ships

The problem with this thread is OP compared a 66 win and a championship team to a scrub team that lost to teams like Bobcats, Hornets which is apparently the reason why people are mocking !

[imdaman99]

Rondo-Allen-Pierce-KG-Perkins lineup never lost a playoff series. So obviously health was a huge issue preventing that team to win multiple 'ships

The problem with this thread is OP compared a 66 win and a championship team to a scrub team that lost to teams like Bobcats, Hornets which is apparently the reason why people are mocking !
lol so i guess the celtics have not lost to the hornets this year?

[chips93]

lol so i guess the celtics have not lost to the hornets this year?

thread title says '2008 celtics'

[BlackVVaves]

lol so i guess the celtics have not lost to the hornets this year?

Can you read? We're all curious.

[chips93]

What people dont understand is this is a new knick team without dan****** holdin us back.


But you'll see soon enuff.


yup first amare was the savior, then melo, the lin, now mike woodson

the knicks are always right on the cusp of greatness arent they? funny how they never actually get there though . . .

[bluechox2]

yup first amare was the savior, then melo, the lin, now mike woodson

the knicks are always right on the cusp of greatness arent they? funny how they never actually get there though . . .

our ball boy is next, dude has good dribble:coleman:

[Fiasco]

ISH: Where 3 games means you're in contention for the title.

[SwooshReturns]

ISH: Where 3 games means you're in contention for the title.
Sidenote: ... your avatar, Chris Paul's suit game is so classy.

Love that tie.

:(

[winnnaz]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/252/262/89e.gif

[winnnaz]

http://i42.tinypic.com/2hz32g6.jpg

[Smoove&Melo]

yup first amare was the savior, then melo, the lin, now mike woodson

the knicks are always right on the cusp of greatness arent they? funny how they never actually get there though . . .
Stfu like the cavs ever had greatness no championships EVER

:yaohappy:

[chips93]

Stfu like the cavs ever had greatness no championships EVER

:yaohappy:

great point

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:facepalm
typical retard knick fan
:facepalm

[Smoove&Melo]

great point

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:facepalm
typical retard knick fan
:facepalm
0 championships tho :yaohappy:

[Fiasco]

Sidenote: ... your avatar, Chris Paul's suit game is so classy.

Love that tie.

:(

Thanks bro. CP3 = Classy Paul 3.

[chips93]

0 championships tho :yaohappy:

:rolleyes:

like thats of any relevance whatsoever

[Shepseskaf]

Comparing the current Knicks team to the 2008 Celtics is a sick joke.

I hate to tell NY fans this (being one myself), but this team isn't going anywhere, even if they somehow make the playoffs.

To even suggest a chance to win a championship.... I mean, seriously....

[Real Men Wear Green]

the mighty celtics, the same team that only won 1 championship with 3 superstars?

obviously i would trade that 1 championship for what i have seen as a knicks fan, but lets calm down on talking about how great the celtics have been. let me repeat, 1 championship. lakers have since won 2. so get over yourselves talking about how mighty and unbeatable the celtics have been. clearly i know the 2008 celtics > this knicks team or likely any recent knicks team, but calm down with your 1 championship. dynasty it is not.
We're not talking about Champion Lakers Vs. Champion Celtics, we're talking about the idiocy of comparing a team that's lost more games than it's won to one of the great defensive teams of the last 20 years. Knicks are far more likely to miss the postseason entirely than they are to win the title this year. You guys seriously think you're looking at the 2008 Champions? Only thing you Knick fans are proving is that you don't know what a Champion looks like.

[Real Men Wear Green]

What people dont understand is this is a new knick team without dan****** holdin us back.


But you'll see soon enuff.
What coach in NBA history would have had that Celtic squad at 21-24? "But, but, he and Melo were fighting! They didn't play defense and now they do! :cry:" Bunch of bullshit excuses. Under no circumstances does Paul Pierce fail to perform for a whole season. When Pitino was here, Pierce still played hard. Under no scheme will KG, Perk or Rondo fail to defend. And under no circumstance is Novak the equal of Ray Allen in any way, don't even go there. 3 All-Stars that absolutely deserved to make the ASG. Linsanity? Drop the L and the Knick fans pushing this crap are described to a Tebow.

This thread has pushed the idiot Knick fan contingent over the top (to be fair, it's not all of them). Officially ISH's dumbest fans.

[Smoove&Melo]

What coach in NBA history would have had that Celtic squad at 21-24? "But, but, he and Melo were fighting! They didn't play defense and now they do! :cry:" Bunch of bullshit excuses. Under no circumstances does Paul Pierce fail to perform for a whole season. When Pitino was here, Pierce still played hard. Under no scheme will KG, Perk or Rondo fail to defend. And under no circumstance is Novak the equal of Ray Allen in any way, don't even go there. 3 All-Stars that absolutely deserved to make the ASG. Linsanity? Drop the L and the Knick fans pushing this crap are described to a Tebow.

This thread has pushed the idiot Knick fan contingent over the top (to be fair, it's not all of them). Officially ISH's dumbest fans.
Didnt read :yaohappy: celtics are done by the way :yaohappy:

[D-Wade316]

And some Knick fan made a thread complaining how most Heat fans are bandwagoners. :oldlol:

[Smoove&Melo]

And some Knick fan made a thread complaining how most Heat fans are bandwagoners. :oldlol:
We gonna act like they not tho ? :yaohappy:

[D-Wade316]

We gonna act like they not tho ? :yaohappy:
Generalization.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Didnt read :yaohappy: celtics are done by the way :yaohappy:
Of course you don't read. Reading would mean facing reality and starting to second-guess your delusions.

[Clutch]

And some Knick fan made a thread complaining how most Heat fans are bandwagoners. :oldlol:
They are. Most of them.

[D-Wade316]

They are. Most of them.
:rolleyes:

[3peated]

stopped reading after you compared anyone in this league to ray allen you dumb nerd

[Clutch]

:rolleyes:
LeBron has a huge fan base. Also there are many people (especially outside of the USA) who cheer for the best team.

There you have it.

[GreenChampion]

Didnt read :yaohappy: celtics are done by the way :yaohappy:

Still mad about last years playoffs bro??!

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/775pv.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/775pv)

[Smoove&Melo]

Still mad about last years playoffs bro??!

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/775pv.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/775pv)

Yea refs gave yall game 1&2 after that it was over :yaohappy:

But i aint mad because guess what ?

We getting deeper in the playoffs this year than the celdicks :yaohappy:

[GreenChampion]

Yea refs gave yall game 1&2 after that it was over :yaohappy:

But i aint mad because guess what ?

We getting deeper in the playoffs this year than the celdicks :yaohappy:

http://www.dallasdancemusic.com/attachments/useless-blabber/3644d1310863487-girls-hands-vs-boys-hands-freeman_he_mad.jpg

[D-Wade316]

LeBron has a huge fan base. Also there are many people (especially outside of the USA) who cheer for the best team.

There you have it.
Many have admitted they're just Lebron fans. RRR3 has admitted he's only a Lebron fan. pauk is clearly not a Heat fan. Lebron23... nah.

[niko]

:rolleyes:
They are. MOST of them. Reality Check.

BTW, why is this thread still going? The topic is stupid, we don't play like that team, nor are we close to a title.

[D-Wade316]

They are. MOST of them. Reality Check.

BTW, why is this thread still going? The topic is stupid, we don't play like that team, nor are we close to a title.
Stupid. You've got nothing to back up your claim.

[niko]

Stupid. You've got nothing to back up your claim.
:lol common sense, eyes, ears, and the amazing ability to note that all heat fans seem to be either Wade Groupies or Lebron groupies, and that prior to Lebron coming, there was about 4 of you, and now there are about 9 billion. Is this a coincidence? Did Miami just get wired for the internet the day after Lebron signed?

Are you repping your team? Did the heat pass out a sheet teaching you to do that?

[D-Wade316]

:lol common sense, eyes, ears, and the amazing ability to note that all heat fans seem to be either Wade Groupies or Lebron groupies, and that prior to Lebron coming, there was about 4 of you, and now there are about 9 billion. Is this a coincidence? Did Miami just get wired for the internet the day after Lebron signed?

Are you repping your team? Did the heat pass out a sheet teaching you to do that?
Media attention, of course.

[niko]

Media attention, of course.
No, the majority of you fanbase appeared out of thin air the day lebron signed. and heat fans don't get to argue fans with Knick fans, you have a potential title winning team, and if we play you in the playoffs, half that crowd will be knick fan.:applause:

Don't worry, the Lebron era will end someday and you and all the others can go back to being Cav fans, etc.

[D-Wade316]

No, the majority of you fanbase appeared out of thin air the day lebron signed. and heat fans don't get to argue fans with Knick fans, you have a potential title winning team, and if we play you in the playoffs, half that crowd will be knick fan.:applause:

Don't worry, the Lebron era will end someday and you and all the others can go back to being Cav fans, etc.
Oh really? Nothing left to discuss here.

[niko]

Oh really? Nothing left to discuss here.
:coleman:

[Shade8780]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbhn2anOHI1qam94g.png
Bookmarked for future neg and laugh :roll:

[Droid101]

We getting deeper in the playoffs this year than the celdicks
Ready to bump when the Knicks don't even make the playoffs.

[SwooshReturns]

Knicks fans crack me up ...

Only thing worse are those whordes of mexican L.A. Laker fans who clearly don't know about the sport in its entirety, and the current Heat fan base on ISH

:oldlol:

[niko]

Why do people keep saying "Knick Fans" and arguing this thread. I don't think any Knick fan has posted in like 5 pages unless you count the trolls like slimshady i love lin poster and such who clearly are trolling.

i love my knicks but title run? :coleman:

[fubu05]

Came back to see the thread. Clearly overtaken by trolls.

Never did I say they were going to win a title. All I said is they will make a run. How deep? Who knows. Never did I say they were going to win a title though.

I was simply comparing this new Knicks identity (with Mike Woodson as coach) to the one of the Celtics in '08. A very balanced team offensively, no one is out there scoring 25+ppg, and a team that plays great TEAM defense. One anchor (KG/Tyson) that brings a bunch of players who before were not known as great defenders to play great TEAM defense. Like coach Woody has been saying, "Playing defense like everyone is on a string. If there is a breakdown somewhere, a guy goes to help, and so forth"

Even when you look at the composition of the teams, the players on the team, they are very comparable.

Will bump in future so you can all see your ignorance. :cheers:

[fubu05]

Bump...

Sup haters! :lol :cheers:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Never did I say they were going to win a title. If you mean that then stop trying to compare them to a Champion.

I was simply comparing this new Knicks identity (with Mike Woodson as coach) to the one of the Celtics in '08. A very balanced team offensively, no one is out there scoring 25+ppg, and a team that plays great TEAM defense. One anchor (KG/Tyson) that brings a bunch of players who before were not known as great defenders to play great TEAM defense. Like coach Woody has been saying, "Playing defense like everyone is on a string. If there is a breakdown somewhere, a guy goes to help, and so forth"

Even when you look at the composition of the teams, the players on the team, they are very comparable.
The comparison is terrible. If Melo is trying on D he and Pierce are similar players. All other comparisons are terrible. There is no equivalent to Ray Allen in NY, the Celts had 2 defensive anchors not just one (Perk was/is one of the best interior defenders), the actual pf of the Knicks does not have Garnett's defensive intensity and impact or anything even close to it. The only Knicks playing better than their Celtic '08 counterparts would be Lin and Chandler, but Lin is an inferior defender to the younger Rondo.

Your team starting to care about D does not make them the equal of a Champion. Doesn't work that way.

[iDunk]

“I guarantee you that Miami and Chicago sure don’t want to see the Knicks at 7 or 8 [in the playoff race],” Philadelphia coach Doug Collins said, a few hours before he got an up-close look at this Knicks team that is so radically different from the old one they should have a new nickname. “I can tell you that.”

New excuse:

"Doug Collins is an idiot!!!! HE DOESNTZ KNOWZ ANYTHINGZZZZZ!11!!1111!!! **** THE KNICKZZZzzzzss"

[Real Men Wear Green]

Is this the first time you've heard a coach compliment an opponent?

[iDunk]

Is this the first time you've heard a coach compliment an opponent?
Yes.

[Clutch]

I know it's been only 5 games but still:

KNICKS DEFENSIVE STATS SINCE MIKE WOODSON TOOK OVER
(league ranking in that period,more precisely in the last 5 games)

Points allowed: 86.6 (2nd)
Opponent FG%: .406 (1st)
Opponent 3-pt%: .318 (4th)
Assists allowed: 15.8 (1st)
Rebounds: 45 (5th)
Rebound differential: +7.4 (3rd)

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Don't take this wrong,I'm not saying "Knicks will win the championship" or something like that.
Just stating the facts.

[bluechox2]

I know it's been only 5 games but still:

KNICKS DEFENSIVE STATS SINCE MIKE WOODSON TOOK OVER
(league ranking in that period,more precisely in the last 5 games)

Points allowed: 86.6 (2nd)
Opponent FG%: .406 (1st)
Opponent 3-pt%: .318 (4th)
Assists allowed: 15.8 (1st)
Rebounds: 45 (5th)
Rebound differential: +7.4 (3rd)

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Don't take this wrong,I'm not saying "Knicks will win the championship" or something like that.
Just stating the facts.

thats championship caliber, but im just stating the fact also:rockon:

[knickscity]

Still way too soon to compare.

Let's see what happens in the playoffs, then bump this shit then.:D

[airchibundo507]

Still way too soon to compare.

Let's see what happens in the playoffs, then bump this shit then.:D
oh we'll bump enough Knicks hate threads to fill up the whole first page. Half of them from that ******* fourthtenor

[chips93]

knicks fans getting carried away again :rolleyes:

[RRR3]

Amar'e DA Gawd, representin' the Jewish terror from the Israeli era, my Hebrew n*ggah holdin' it down, playin' defense like a gee, nahmisaynin?


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http://500motivators.com/plog-content/thumbs/motivate/me/large/212-jew-jitsu-they-will-win.jpg

[airchibundo507]

knicks fans getting carried away again :rolleyes:
how many wins will it take to convince you? looking at the schedule, if the Knicks maintain their intensity and momentum, we could potentially win 10 straight

[chips93]

how many wins will it take to convince you? looking at the schedule, if the Knicks maintain their intensity and momentum, we could potentially win 10 straight

:roll:

oh the irony

i point out that you are losing the run of yourself, and then you go and predict a ten game win streak, from a team that is sub .500

:roll:

honestly though, i wouldnt be impressed by any sample size much smaller than 15 games, and i will need to see them beat some good teams, before i am convinced that they will even be a factor in the post-season, let alone a contender.

[RRR3]

:roll:

oh the irony

i point out that you are losing the run of yourself, and then you go and predict a ten game win streak, from a team that is sub .500

:roll:

honestly though, i wouldnt be impressed by any sample size much smaller than 15 games, and i will need to see them beat some good teams, before i am convinced that they will even be a factor in the post-season, let alone a contender.
Airchibundo isn't even a Knicks fan, he's a Melo stan. :oldlol: He's mad that the beast known as Amar'e "The Hebrew Hammer" Stoudemire has awoken and Melo is now no longer the best player on the Knicks (he never was, really, people just underrate Amar'e when he's 100%).

[airchibundo507]

:roll:

oh the irony

i point out that you are losing the run of yourself, and then you go and predict a ten game win streak, from a team that is sub .500

:roll:

honestly though, i wouldnt be impressed by any sample size much smaller than 15 games, and i will need to see them beat some good teams, before i am convinced that they will even be a factor in the post-season, let alone a contender.

the Knicks right now are playing at a level far above their record, and it'd be best for you to grasp this simple concept early

we beat Philly (we were on end of back2back) and Indiana on the road and Indiana again in NY. we've played more upperseeded playoff teams than lottery teams in this five game stretch

[chips93]

we beat Philly (we were on end of back2back) and Indiana on the road and Indiana again in NY. we've played more upperseeded teams than lottery teams in this five game stretch

beating indiana and philly doesnt make me consider the knicks a contender

if they could consistently beat teams of philly and indianas calibre then i would probably have to re-consider how i see the knicks

[Sarcastic]

beating indiana and philly doesnt make me consider the knicks a contender

if they could consistently beat teams of philly and indianas calibre then i would probably have to re-consider how i see the knicks

Well they've only had 5 games with Woodson, so they will get more chances later on to play the better teams.

Do you really think that Knicks under Woodson are the same as under D'Antoni?

[chips93]

Well they've only had 5 games with Woodson, so they will get more chances later on to play the better teams.

Do you really think that Knicks under Woodson are the same as under D'Antoni?

i think that the knick roster is very flawed, and that a coaching change alone isnt enough

and that typically knick fans are some of the most fickle in the entire league

[iDefend5]

http://i.imgur.com/4NNmo.gif

[IGOTGAME]

Heat aren't just going to buckle under the pressure of the Knicks almost overwhelming talent like most other teams in the horrible easter conference.


But, I do agree that they can beat every team in the East besides Miami.

[Sarcastic]

i think that the knick roster is very flawed, and that a coaching change alone isnt enough

and that typically knick fans are some of the most fickle in the entire league

They have great players in the starting line up and a deep bench. Most teams would die to have flaws like that.


What does Knick fans being fickle have to do with anything?

[francesco totti]

they need to do it in a more consistnent manner.They had this win streak before, with the lin hype at one moment.Then it faded.Now the hype is back.

Utah is on 5 game win streak, bucks were on 6 game win streak before losing to boston..

i can find for other sides too.... they dont make those teams contenders...just passing thru good phase...

championships teams, are teams that can win games when playing bad..

[chips93]

They have great players in the starting line up and a deep bench. Most teams would die to have flaws like that.

or you could look at it like, they are a team led by two players, who over their careers have rarely played a lick of defense


What does Knick fans being fickle have to do with anything


you're right about this, it has nothing to do with what we are talking about, i got mixed up, with what i was saying to that melo dude.

[Sarcastic]

they need to do it in a more consistnent manner.They had this win streak before, with the lin hype at one moment.Then it faded.Now the hype is back.

Utah is on 5 game win streak, bucks were on 6 game win streak before losing to boston..

i can find for other sides too.... they dont make those teams contenders...just passing thru good phase...

championships teams, are teams that can win games when playing bad..

Did those other teams go on those winning streaks after changing coaches?

The Knicks completely underachieved under Dumbtoni. Now with Woodson they are playing as they should have all year.

[francesco totti]

Did those other teams go on those winning streaks after changing coaches?

The Knicks completely underachieved under Dumbtoni. Now with Woodson they are playing as they should have all year.


5 game sample is nthg to go by.


I would wait many games before Writing things ur saying..

[Clutch]

they need to do it in a more consistnent manner.They had this win streak before, with the lin hype at one moment.Then it faded.Now the hype is back.
To be fair this run is way more sustainable. During the Linsanity the Knicks played very good defense but they won games because Lin was playing out of his mind,averaging something like 27/8.
We all knew he couldn't play like that for the whole season.

Right now nobody is playing exceptionally well on offense and we're still winning games. That's because of excellent defense and it's much easier to sustain good defense than having 27/8 every game.
During the 5 game winning streak Amare is our leading scorer and he averaged less than 17 points in the last 5 games.

My point is that this isn't a winning streak when somebody goes off for a few games (Amare's 30+ point games last season,Linsanity this season...).
This winning streak is a result of defense and team play and there's no reason why should that stop.

[AMISTILLILL]

OOF. :facepalm

[CelticBaller]

op...:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Celtic_Pride]

:biggums:

[Kobe 4 The Win]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/IpreferKeaton/Haha.jpg

A more offensive 2008 Celtics? :biggums:

Another Knick fan talking nonsense based on a 3 game sample of decent Knicks performance. I know you guys are starved for some good news but don't hold your breath. This mess is gonna get worse before it gets better.

[Celtics 1825]

I can't believe you even compared the two :facepalm Nowhere close to each other.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

:wtf:

[Kiddlovesnets]

lol this...
:roll:

[AMISTILLILL]

Bookmarked for future LOL's.

:D

[CelticBaller]

:oldlol:

[Smoke117]

:D

I was waiting for it. I knew you had it bookmarked. This was the absolute most hilarious ****ing ever. You know what melo, amare, lin, when you all out fishing, why dont you take that shit heel idunk with you, tie an anvil around his ankles (securely, you don't want him getting free) and drown that clown.

[Shade8780]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbhn2anOHI1qam94g.png
Bookmarked for future neg and laugh :roll:
:pimp:

[LBJDW305]

These fools aren't worth our words of truth, they'll see soon enough.

Biggest fool on this forum...