JJ Hickson and Kings agree on buyout!

[novocaine]

The Sacramento Kings today waived forward J.J. Hickson, according to Kings’ President of Basketball Operations Geoff Petrie. It was reportedly a contract buyout.

Read more: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=9479#ixzz1pbCdy1si

[dbugz]

If the rumor is true, dude's going to be a Celtic

[blablabla]

tulsa shock is getting a new sf/pf combo

[Eric Cartman]

Here we go.

[2LeTTeRS]

Good for him. If he's trying to up his value the Bobcats could be a good stop for him. I know all the State fans up here wouldn't mind seeing Hickson come back to NC and this has to be one a very few teams where he'd get a lot of burn and be asked to provide major scoring.

[All Net]

No way... Why?

[HylianNightmare]

huge pickup for allot of teams

[InspiredLebowski]

No way... Why?Because he's a pretty bad basketball player I assume

[AMISTILLILL]

If the rumor is true, dude's going to be a Celtic

http://rumorsontheinternets.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/wee-bey-oh-shit.gif

[All Net]

Because he's a pretty bad basketball player I assume

Surprising considering his age... Did he fall off when lebron left or something?

[Reverend Hoops]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4913305

[R.I.P.]

huge pickup for allot of teams

Agreed. That is shocking.

[Droid101]

Get it done Mitch?

[CelticBaller]

If the rumor is true, dude's going to be a Celtic
:banana:

[dbugz]

http://rumorsontheinternets.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/wee-bey-oh-shit.gif


http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/3/14/2873129/rumor-celts-interested-in-j-j-hickson

[Clutch]

Woj via twitter:

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA
JJ Hickson has completed a buyout with the Kings, league source tells Y!
http://i.imgur.com/eSX5q.gif

[bagelred]

"Boy, I sure hope my Insert Favorite Team pick up JJ Hickson for the minimum. Get it done, Insert Favorite Team GM!"

[Rowe]

Good for him. If he's trying to up his value the Bobcats could be a good stop for him. I know all the State fans up here wouldn't mind seeing Hickson come back to NC and this has to be one a very few teams where he'd get a lot of burn and be asked to provide major scoring.
Thats not a bad fit at all.

Espescially when Boris Diaw gets bought out.

[Eric Cartman]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4913305

"Cleveland believes the addition of Stoudemire would all but seal LeBron James' re-signing with the team when he becomes a free agent this summer."

:roll: :roll:

[DuMa]

Cs could use another big. hell any big would be okay. Rasheed come back!

[dbugz]

http://rumorsontheinternets.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/wee-bey-oh-shit.gif

????

http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/3/14/2873129/rumor-celts-interested-in-j-j-hickson

[Rowe]

http://i.imgur.com/eSX5q.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6xizIJh2kw



:applause: :applause:

[AMISTILLILL]

http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/3/14/2873129/rumor-celts-interested-in-j-j-hickson

Yeah, I knew they were interested but I wasn't sure how realistic it was.

It would definitely make sense... didn't I just read last week that Boston was looking to waive Marquis?

[bagelred]

If the rumor is true, dude's going to be a Celtic


"Boy, I sure hope my Boston Celtics pick up JJ Hickson for the minimum. Get it done, Danny Ainge!"

[bagelred]

Get it done Mitch?

"Boy, I sure hope my Los Angeles Lakers pick up JJ Hickson for the minimum. Get it done, Mitch Kupchak!"

[wally_world]

He should sign with Phoenix if he hopes to boost his value, Nash will make him a BEAST

[bagelred]

He should sign with Phoenix if he hopes to boost his value, Nash will make him a BEAST

"Boy, I sure hope my Phoenix Suns pick up JJ Hickson for the minimum. Get it done, Lance Blanks!"

[StateOfMind12]

He should sign with Phoenix if he hopes to boost his value, Nash will make him a BEAST
I thought about that but then I realized that he is probably just like Hakim Warrick which is a player the Suns already have. A player with tons of potential due to great athleticism but lacks skill, brain, and everything else that matters in basketball.

He should just go to the Celtics since that is the best team out there that needs him.

[33teeth]

Wow. Anyone who wants this guy on their team clearly hasn't watched him play. He's been REALLY bad this year. The Kings don't exactly use him ideally, but that doesn't excuse his performance. It's been just absolutely horrid.

He has a low bball IQ.
He can't catch
He can't pass
He can't dribble
He takes jump shots from like 18' that have NO chance of going in.

I'm only sad that the Kings wasted a protected 1st getting him. No sadness in seeing him leave. At all. Worst big the Kings had on the roster. The Kings, mind you.

Maybe in very specific systems he can work, but I wouldn't get too excited.

[LA_Showtime]

... We could use another low IQ, disappointing power forward. Get er done Mitch.

[CelticBaller]

Wow. Anyone who wants this guy on their team clearly hasn't watched him play. He's been REALLY bad this year. The Kings don't exactly use him ideally, but that doesn't excuse his performance. It's been just absolutely horrid.

He has a low bball IQ.
He can't catch
He can't pass
He can't dribble
He takes jump shots from like 18' that have NO chance of going in.

I'm only sad that the Kings wasted a protected 1st getting him. No sadness in seeing him leave. At all. Worst big the Kings had on the roster. The Kings, mind you.

Maybe in very specific systems he can work, but I wouldn't get too excited.
its your loss(both the 1st round pick and JJ) :banana:

[zac]

I definitely think the Celtics make the most sense.

[bagelred]

CLEVELAND, Ohio - In a move to clear out the logjam at power forward and address the void at small forward, the Cavaliers traded power forward J.J. Hickson to the Sacramento Kings today for small forward Omri Casspi and a 2012 first-round draft choice.

:oldlol: :hammerhead:

[CelticBaller]

:oldlol: :hammerhead:
Sucks for the kings

[bagelred]

... We could use another low IQ, disappointing power forward. Get er done Mitch.

"Boy, I sure hope my Los Angeles Lakers pick up JJ Hickson for the minimum. Get it done, Mitch Kupchak!"

[33teeth]

:oldlol: :hammerhead:

So protected it's not going to be an issue - at least not anytime soon.

Bad move to ever pick this guy up though. Shot 37% for the Kings.

Horrid.

[RazorBaLade]

bagelred will be making that joke until someone acknowledges it i guess


good one bagelred

[bagelred]

This is shocking because if the Kings simply keep him, they can then make him a Qualifying Offer in the summer and maybe do a sign and trade with a team that wants him. Maybe get an asset or player they need.

WTF was the point of waiving him NOW?:hammerhead: There's only 20 games left....they're not making playoffs anyway.

[CelticBaller]

This is shocking because if the Kings simply keep him, they can then make him a Qualifying Offer in the summer and maybe do a sign and trade with a team that wants him. Maybe get an asset or player they need.

WTF was the point of waiving him NOW?:hammerhead: There's only 20 games left....they're not making playoffs anyway.
It's the same team that trade its first round top 10 pick for him the first place? :confusedshrug:

[33teeth]

This is shocking because if the Kings simply keep him, they can then make him a Qualifying Offer in the summer and maybe do a sign and trade with a team that wants him. Maybe get an asset or player they need.

WTF was the point of waiving him NOW?:hammerhead: There's only 20 games left....they're not making playoffs anyway.

They shopped him hard. Nobody would even give up a 2nd round pick for him because, and I repeat, he is horrible.

Hickson < 2nd round pick according to GM's around the league.

I imagine he was going to be trouble or at least a malcontent around the team so better to just let him go. Buried on the bench is worthless anyway.

Here's how the 1st round pick is protected: Lottery protected this year, top 13 in 2013, top 12 in 2014, and top 10 in 2015 - 2017. After that it's a 2nd round pick. I wish the trade had never happened, but it's not like they gave up their pick this year.

[33teeth]

It's the same team that trade its first round top 10 pick for him the first place? :confusedshrug:

? What are you talking about?

[blablabla]

This is shocking because if the Kings simply keep him, they can then make him a Qualifying Offer in the summer and maybe do a sign and trade with a team that wants him. Maybe get an asset or player they need.

WTF was the point of waiving him NOW?:hammerhead: There's only 20 games left....they're not making playoffs anyway.
maybe they have tried to trade him before the deadline but nobody wanted him

[thelucifer69]

Go Spurs if he want Championships:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[pegasus]

Boston should snatch him and Turiaf.

[CelticBaller]

? What are you talking about?

trading a top 10 pick of a draft that has been gifted with tons of bigmen for a PF who mainly relies in his athleticism, Don't you guys have enough in that department?
Or you guys seriously though JJ was going to help you guys make the playoffs? :lol

[33teeth]

trading a top 10 pick of a draft that has been gifted with tons of bigmen for a PF who mainly relies in his athleticism, Don't you guys have enough in that department?
Or you guys seriously though JJ was going to help you guys make the playoffs? :lol

Cool Story. But they didn't trade a top 10 pick in this OR ANY draft in the Hickson trade. See my post above.

:biggums:

[Wonder Bread Kid]

Supposedly, via Spurstalk, the Spurs are front runners to land him. Not a bad signing I guess.

[The Choken One]

Damn...wonder why.

Good backup PF for anyone who signs him.

[33teeth]

I now realize people read thread titles and just come in and post. No point reading what other people post I guess. :confusedshrug:

[The Choken One]

I now realize people read thread titles and just come in and post. No point reading what other people post I guess. :confusedshrug:
Guilty. Way to lazy unless I'm truly interested in the topic. Which...this one I'm not.

[Eric Cartman]

I now realize people read thread titles and just come in and post. No point reading what other people post I guess. :confusedshrug:

Of course most people do. But unless it's a really good post (Kblaze) or something totally moronic & outrageous u won't get quoted. Must be new here little man.

[CelticBaller]

Cool Story. But they didn't trade a top 10 pick in this OR ANY draft in the Hickson trade. See my post above.

:biggums:
they did (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6722764)
:coleman:

[Droid101]

they did (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6722764)
:coleman:
:facepalm


The Cleveland Cavaliers have traded power forward J.J. Hickson to the Sacramento Kings for swingman Omri Casspi and Sacramento's protected first-round pick in the 2012 NBA draft.

[jbryan1984]

If I am Danny Ainge, I am all over this. Could not had come at a better time with Green and now Wilcox out also.

[33teeth]

they did (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6722764)
:coleman:

NO. They didn't. I spelled it out earlier. Here's a link if maybe that'll help. I don't know. I feel like I'm communicating with a collection of cinder blocks.

http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2012/02/19/sports/nh5116387.txt

The pick is protected from Nos. 1 through 13 in this year's draft and in 2013. It's protected 1-12 in 2014 and 1-10 in 2015 and 2016. If it's not sent to the Cavs by 2017, it becomes a second-round pick.

:biggums:

Still a horrible trade though.

[knickballer]

If I am Danny Ainge, I am all over this. Could not had come at a better time with Green and now Wilcox out also.

"Boy, I sure hope my Boston Celtics pick up JJ Hickson for the minimum. Get it done, Danny Ainge!"

[iDunk]

JJ Hickson changed NBA history.

[irondarts]

This isn't a surprise, he's been an epic fail in Sac town and has been out played by Jason Thompson, they tried to trade him but couldn't.

The guy is completely clueless on the court, He's a good athlete he just has no idea how to play the game.

[All Net]

If he makes it thru waivers, Heat would likely have interest in Hickson. Tho he's just another PF & they need a C. Very close w/LeBron.

Bet he gets taken off waivers...

[InspiredLebowski]

maybe they have tried to trade him before the deadline but nobody wanted himThey did. No one wanted him.

[bagelred]

Bet he gets taken off waivers...

There is no waivers. He was bought out. There's a difference. He'll be a free agent unrestricted.

[LBJMVP]

dont know what happened to him.

i was one of those cavs fans last year that fully expected him to average like 18 and 10 and win MIP.

he did average 14 and 9 in 28 minutes though, but he would always shoot stupid jumpshots and sometimes looked like he didnt even want to be playing.

also we pretty much traded him for casspi and a 2nd round pick because i don't see sacremento goin to the playoffs anytime soon.

[33teeth]

There is no waivers. He was bought out. There's a difference. He'll be a free agent unrestricted.

Press release says he was waived. Other info has it as a buyout. I don't know what's true - doesn't affect the Kings much so....

http://www.nba.com/kings/news/kings_press_release_32012.html

[blacknapalm]

remember when part of the reason the amare trade talks fell apart was because the cavs thought hickson was their future? trololololol

[LBJMVP]

remember when part of the reason the amare trade talks fell apart was because the cavs thought hickson was their future? trololololol


that wasnt the reason at all....

the suns GM said didnt want to do the trade and it ended. cavs were 100% ok with trading hickson :facepalm
i dont know how many times this has been said on this website.

[Rose]

Always liked Hickson, sucks he's so immature.

[alenleomessi]

the guy who wasnt getting traded for prime amare few years ago is now getting waived by the freaking kings :oldlol:

[LBJMVP]

the guy who wasnt getting traded for prime amare few years ago is now getting waived by the freaking kings :oldlol:


see the post that is two above yours.

[JohnnySic]

Please come to Boston.....all the playing time you can handle. :oldlol:

[RedBlackAttack]

the guy who wasnt getting traded for prime amare few years ago is now getting waived by the freaking kings :oldlol:
The story that people pull out of thin air as if it actually happened when it is nowhere near the truth?

Yes, that one.

[Maniak]

I thought the Cavs were crazy on draft night when they traded a more proven young player who was developing very well to hand it over to another PF who seemingly had similar game.

Maybe they had something right. I mean, I think Hickson can still be a great PF in the league if he sorts out some maturity issues and whatnot that I've heard of, but seeing him being bought out makes the Cavs trading him away seem better.

[Lebron23]

I hope Miami signs JJ Hickson. He's a legit 6'9".

[DukeDelonte13]

I thought the Cavs were crazy on draft night when they traded a more proven young player who was developing very well to hand it over to another PF who seemingly had similar game.

Maybe they had something right. I mean, I think Hickson can still be a great PF in the league if he sorts out some maturity issues and whatnot that I've heard of, but seeing him being bought out makes the Cavs trading him away seem better.


Byron and Hickson didn't get along. Supposedly Byron wanted him off. :biggums:

[GOBB]

Shouldnt be a bad pickup for a team.

[FatComputerNerd]

Shocking.

I knew he had some glaring weaknesses; the low bball IQ, and the small hands. I was still pretty sure he was worth much more than Casspi, and was a little bummed out when we traded him.

I haven't watched a single Kings game this year so I have no clue how he did, but he must have done pretty terrible to get bought out like this.

[Godzuki]

JJ is MUCH better than the media and general NBA fans will have you believe. He barely got opportunity in Sacramento, but those idiots have like 4 PF's between Cousin's, Hayes, Greene, and JJ...and JJ had just come off injury where he was out for like a few weeks.

JJ's smart going to where he will get playing time...too bad Nate ruined his career because he's a dumbass with a idiot agent chasing a ring before he ever became a somebody, and now he's stigmatized as a only off the bench spark plug type... sad :facepalm

i can see JJ putting up 15+pts, 8rebs average on GS, if not better. he's SOOOO much better than everything i read said about him, and its laughable to me how so many people are clueless.

[B-Easy8]

I hope Miami signs JJ Hickson. He's a legit 6'9".

Since when does being a legit 6'9 make you good?

He couldn't get playing time on the Kings, with Thompson, Outlaw and Greene rotating at his position, aside from Thompson. He isn't that good.

[B-Easy8]

JJ is MUCH better than the media and general NBA fans will have you believe. He barely got opportunity in Sacramento, but those idiots have like 4 PF's between Cousin's, Hayes, Greene, and JJ...and JJ had just come off injury where he was out for like a few weeks.

JJ's smart going to where he will get playing time...too bad Nate ruined his career because he's a dumbass with a idiot agent chasing a ring before he ever became a somebody, and now he's stigmatized as a only off the bench spark plug type... sad :facepalm

i can see JJ putting up 15+pts, 8rebs average on GS, if not better. he's SOOOO much better than everything i read said about him, and its laughable to me how so many people are clueless.

You are clueless. The Kings play Cousins and Hayes strictly at C so all he had to do was beat out Thompson and Greene, he couldn't even do that so Greene took over him in the rotation also.

Hickson also started a bunch of games this season but he was playing terribly so he got benched, he has nothing aside from athleticism.

[33teeth]

JJ is MUCH better than the media and general NBA fans will have you believe. He barely got opportunity in Sacramento, but those idiots have like 4 PF's between Cousin's, Hayes, Greene, and JJ...and JJ had just come off injury where he was out for like a few weeks.

JJ's smart going to where he will get playing time...too bad Nate ruined his career because he's a dumbass with a idiot agent chasing a ring before he ever became a somebody, and now he's stigmatized as a only off the bench spark plug type... sad :facepalm

i can see JJ putting up 15+pts, 8rebs average on GS, if not better. he's SOOOO much better than everything i read said about him, and its laughable to me how so many people are clueless.

He started off the year as a starter.

He held that role until it was clear he wasn't starter material.

Slowly his minutes became less and less because he is HORRIBLE.

Did the media make him shoot 37%. Did the "general NBA fans" make him attempt jump shots way outside his range and fumble seemingly every other pass out of bounds?

Add to that being a negative presence and there's nothing really to like there.

But, we'll see.

[trig]

wow what happened to this guy. Can't even get a 2nd rnd pick for him?

[irondarts]

JJ is MUCH better than the media and general NBA fans will have you believe. He barely got opportunity in Sacramento, but those idiots have like 4 PF's between Cousin's, Hayes, Greene, and JJ...and JJ had just come off injury where he was out for like a few weeks.

JJ's smart going to where he will get playing time...too bad Nate ruined his career because he's a dumbass with a idiot agent chasing a ring before he ever became a somebody, and now he's stigmatized as a only off the bench spark plug type... sad :facepalm

i can see JJ putting up 15+pts, 8rebs average on GS, if not better. he's SOOOO much better than everything i read said about him, and its laughable to me how so many people are clueless.
We're clueless but you named 3 players who aren't even stealing his PT, Cousins and Hayes play at center and Greene is mainly at the 3. Jason Thompson is the PF there and he's outplayed JJ since he got into the rotation.

Have you watched JJ play this year? He's been absolutely terrible. The fact that the Kings don't want him anywhere near their team to the point of buying him out speaks volumes.

[Godzuki]

You are clueless. The Kings play Cousins and Hayes strictly at C so all he had to do was beat out Thompson and Greene, he couldn't even do that so Greene took over him in the rotation also.

Hickson also started a bunch of games this season but he was playing terribly so he got benched, he has nothing aside from athleticism.

no they don't...they play J.Thompson at Center altho if they go small they may put any of their PF's in there at Center. you have no idea wtf you're talking about.

None of those players i mentioned are true Centers, they're ALL PF's. the only Centers the Kings have on their roster are Jason Thompson and Whitewall....

he barely got time, and earlier in the season the whole team was awful. some of the worst chemistry in the league so nobody played well.

man i wish we could bet RL money....

[Godzuki]

We're clueless but you named 3 players who aren't even stealing his PT, Cousins and Hayes play at center and Greene is mainly at the 3. Jason Thompson is the PF there and he's outplayed JJ since he got into the rotation.

Have you watched JJ play this year? He's been absolutely terrible. The fact that the Kings don't want him anywhere near their team to the point of buying him out speaks volumes.


Ugghhh do you all even watch the Kings? :facepalm

lol Thompson is their tallest/biggest player other than Whitewall, how is he their PF? :wtf:

All of those 4 players i mentioned ARE PF's....sorry but you all are wrong.

[Figlo]

JJ Hickson = Just another LeBron product

[Godzuki]

He started off the year as a starter.

He held that role until it was clear he wasn't starter material.

Slowly his minutes became less and less because he is HORRIBLE.

Did the media make him shoot 37%. Did the "general NBA fans" make him attempt jump shots way outside his range and fumble seemingly every other pass out of bounds?

Add to that being a negative presence and there's nothing really to like there.

But, we'll see.

like i said i'm VERY confident that JJ is MUCH better than most of you and the general media portray. too bad nobody watched the worst team in the league last year but me it seems.

just wish ISH had some broker program where we could put money down on poster bets....

[Lebron23]

Since when does being a legit 6'9 make you good?

He couldn't get playing time on the Kings, with Thompson, Outlaw and Greene rotating at his position, aside from Thompson. He isn't that good.


LeBron and Hickson had a good team chemistry back in Cleveland. Haslem is getting older, and he missed that jumper againts the Jazz. JJ will be a solid backup PF. He's only 23 yrs.old. The Miami Heat signed a past his prime Eddy Curry. I am sure LeBron wants JJ Hickson to play for the Miami Heat.

[Lebron23]

JJ Hickson = Just another LeBron product

http://rotoexperts.com/wp-content/uploads/article_images/stories/newroto/gxvz656_lebron_hickson_iconsmi.jpg

LeBron to Hicksonnnnnnnnn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJQstoeBmc

JJ Hickson blocked Dwight Howard. Good defensive effort.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUmWp43FIVk&feature=relmfu

[Lebron23]

Miami needs to waive 100 yrs.old Juwan Howard. Hickson >>> Howard.

[B-Easy8]

no they don't...they play J.Thompson at Center altho if they go small they may put any of their PF's in there at Center. you have no idea wtf you're talking about.

None of those players i mentioned are true Centers, they're ALL PF's. the only Centers the Kings have on their roster are Jason Thompson and Whitewall....

he barely got time, and earlier in the season the whole team was awful. some of the worst chemistry in the league so nobody played well.

man i wish we could bet RL money....

You have no idea what your talking about, watch a Kings game before you talk nonsense. Thompson plays strictly at the 4 and his name is Whiteside not Whitewall.

[Kingwillball]

Hickson Would Thrive on Heat with his athleticism feeding off of Wade and Lebron he would be Lethal on Pick and Rolls getting to Rim, Lobs and Drive and Dumps.. Take him over Pittman or Howard in Rotation in a Hot second..

[33teeth]

Ugghhh do you all even watch the Kings? :facepalm

lol Thompson is their tallest/biggest player other than Whitewall, how is he their PF? :wtf:

All of those 4 players i mentioned ARE PF's....sorry but you all are wrong.

Thompson is not the tallest or biggest. They play him at PF and center.

I dunno. I haven't missed a Kings game in many years. It seems you've never actually watched them.

Hickson averaged over 18 mins a game with the Kings despite his atrocious play. Look at his game logs. He started off getting solid minutes, then they dwindled. He only scored in double figures THREE times! He only got double digit rebounds 4 times. 2 double doubles. 37% shooting. He had as many games with 3 turnovers as he did double doubles. He made it clear EARLY in the year that he wasn't happy and didn't want to be in SAC.

Dude was trash for the Kings.

Jason Thompson, who was his competition for minutes (despite your thoughts), is shooting 53%. Played his way into (Hickson's) minutes. Has 9 double doubles including back to back 21 point, 15 rebound games. He's hard working and professional.

Kings didn't need Hickson and if he doesn't show a lot more to his next team, he'll be in the D-League or China for the next stop after that.

[Godzuki]

Thompson is not the tallest or biggest. They play him at PF and center.

I dunno. I haven't missed a Kings game in many years. It seems you've never actually watched them.

Hickson averaged over 18 mins a game with the Kings despite his atrocious play. Look at his game logs. He started off getting solid minutes, then they dwindled. He only scored in double figures THREE times! He only got double digit rebounds 4 times. 2 double doubles. 37% shooting. He had as many games with 3 turnovers as he did double doubles. He made it clear EARLY in the year that he wasn't happy and didn't want to be in SAC.

Dude was trash for the Kings.

Jason Thompson, who was his competition for minutes (despite your thoughts), is shooting 53%. Played his way into (Hickson's) minutes. Has 9 double doubles including back to back 21 point, 15 rebound games. He's hard working and professional.

Kings didn't need Hickson and if he doesn't show a lot more to his next team, he'll be in the D-League or China for the next stop after that.


JT IS their starting Center. He does not play PF. This has been every Kings game this year. Maybe he has if they've gone small, but to say i don't waqtch Kings games and then to say JT is a PF is ridiculous. Watch the game tonight, JT WILL start at Center AND play at Center the whole game. Cousin's starts at PF....

or just look at their sizes. JT is taller/bigger than Cousins/JJ/Greene/Hayes...noticeably so.

and like i said the only backup they have at Center is Whitewall. in terms of being a true Center that is....
i've watched about 3/4's of the Kings games this year.

and as for JJ, we'll see....i KNOW he hasn't had the opportunities to prove himself there. when you don't get shots or many minutes, on a ball hog team, its hard to prove yourself. either way i'm VERY confident he's MUCH better than most people talk...

[El Kabong]

I had high hopes for him coming into the season, so much so that I made a point to grab him in my fantasy league. He wasn't that great, but that is not an uncommon thing on the current Kings team, who have a few players who are pretty atrocious.

[Whoah10115]

Thompson starts at the power forward position.



Cousins STARTS AT CENTER.



Evans has been starting at the 3, with Thornton at the 2 and Thomas at the 1.

[Godzuki]

well i'll admit if i'm wrong but i'm 99.9% sure JT is their Center. he's their main/only big that has true Center size other than Whitewall, and plays the Center role. i know team rosters show Cousins as the Center and JT as the PF, but i'm 99.9% sure JT is/plays Center for them :confusedshrug:

i'll make a double check tonight....

[Whoah10115]

well i'll admit if i'm wrong but i'm 99.9% sure JT is their Center. he's their main/only big that has true Center size other than Whitewall, and plays the Center role. i know team rosters show Cousins as the Center and JT as the PF, but i'm 99.9% sure JT is/plays Center for them :confusedshrug:

i'll make a double check tonight....



Cousins is 6'11.

[33teeth]

well i'll admit if i'm wrong but i'm 99.9% sure JT is their Center. he's their main/only big that has true Center size other than Whitewall, and plays the Center role. i know team rosters show Cousins as the Center and JT as the PF, but i'm 99.9% sure JT is/plays Center for them :confusedshrug:

i'll make a double check tonight....

Sometimes JT has played center, but not usually.

You may be confused because JT often does the Jumpball to start the game even when DMC is center. Or, you may just be confused.

Regardless of the situation, Hickson was worthless on this team. Maybe he'll play better elsewhere.

[FatComputerNerd]

Not buying the whole "product of Lebron" argument.

People said the same thing about Varejao, and prior to his injury he was having the best season of his career, and there was serious talk about him being an all-star.

[CLE[216]]

Hickson Would Thrive on Heat with his athleticism feeding off of Wade and Lebron he would be Lethal on Pick and Rolls getting to Rim, Lobs and Drive and Dumps.. Take him over Pittman or Howard in Rotation in a Hot second..

Yeah...too bad almost the entire heat payroll goes to three players so it's never gonna happen.

[Kingwillball]

']Yeah...too bad almost the entire heat payroll goes to three players so it's never gonna happen.


If the HEat can Pick up Fisher or are Looking to obtain another Big for Playoff Run I sure they can Squeeze him under the Cap.. Talk in Miami of Picking Up Kaman or Camby if Available so I am Sure they can Snag Hickson.

[Godzuki]

Cousins is 6'11.


look at them on the court. JT is easily bigger....

[33teeth]

look at them on the court. JT is easily bigger....

Ugh. Even if he were 3" taller (and he's not), JT is in NO WAY bigger than DMC. He weighs less and doesn't play as "big."

[irondarts]

Ugghhh do you all even watch the Kings? :facepalm

lol Thompson is their tallest/biggest player other than Whitewall, how is he their PF? :wtf:

All of those 4 players i mentioned ARE PF's....sorry but you all are wrong.
Do you? Thompson is their starting PF and Cousins is their starting Center.

Also, it's Whiteside, not Whitewall. And Donte Greene is a 3.

[Godzuki]

Ugh. Even if he were 3" taller (and he's not), JT is in NO WAY bigger than DMC. He weighs less and doesn't play as "big."

he's easily bigger...and JT is generally guarding the opposing teams Center while Cousin's is generally matched up against the opponents PF.

[33teeth]

he's easily bigger...and JT is generally guarding the opposing teams Center while Cousin's is generally matched up against the opponents PF.

OK. You clearly have not watched many (or any) Kings games in the past two years.

:biggums:

Edit to add: Or you're just trolling.

[Godzuki]

Do you? Thompson is their starting PF and Cousins is their starting Center.

Also, it's Whiteside, not Whitewall. And Donte Greene is a 3.


yeah i knew it was White-something.

i am 99.9% sure JT plays Center for the Kings. As in guards the opponents Center and is in the game as a Center. i'd be shocked if that weren't a fact. donh't care what roster lists might say, more than in game positional play.

if i'm wrong i'd feel like i was in a parallel universe watching games :confusedshrug:

[Godzuki]

OK. You clearly have not watched many (or any) Kings games in the past two years.

:biggums:

Edit to add: Or you're just trolling.


ask me any question about the Kings....

like i said lets see tonight. Cousin's isn't bigger than JT. its crazy to me how sure i am, but its almost like you all have created doubt in me even tho i'm borderline 100% sure....99.9% to be more specific :confusedshrug:

[33teeth]

ask me any question about the Kings....

like i said lets see tonight. Cousin's isn't bigger than JT. its crazy to me how sure i am, but its almost like you all have created doubt in me even tho i'm borderline 100% sure....99.9% to be more specific :confusedshrug:

Funny thing is that it wouldn't surprise me to see JT defend Gasol and Cousins on Randolph tonight - in which you could claim to be right - but I'd argue that you're not.

They'll switch things up depending on match-ups (speed vs size), but generally speaking, JT is a PF and Cousins is a C. Big powerful centers are defended by Cousins.

[Godzuki]

Funny thing is that it wouldn't surprise me to see JT defend Gasol and Cousins on Randolph tonight - in which you could claim to be right - but I'd argue that you're not.

They'll switch things up depending on match-ups (speed vs size), but generally speaking, JT is a PF and Cousins is a C. Big powerful centers are defended by Cousins.


i just don't agree with that. JT is bigger than Cousin's and defends bigger Centers in general. he's their biggest post presence easy. Cousin's is more skillful and they iso him more often, but JT is their Center for all intents and purposes....

and not just tonight, every game i've watched :confusedshrug:

[33teeth]

i just don't agree with that. JT is bigger than Cousin's and defends bigger Centers in general. he's their biggest post presence easy. Cousin's is more skillful and they iso him more often, but JT is their Center for all intents and purposes....

and not just tonight, every game i've watched :confusedshrug:

:confusedshrug: I guess I, and virtually all Kings fans, have been watching a different team than you. There's also the fact that JT is listed as a PF and Cousins as a center to add to what I see on court. I'm not sure what else to say. :confusedshrug:

Anyway, JT is not bigger. If you want to disregard stated measurements and say he's taller, I'm not going to agree or disagree, but dude is NOT "bigger" than Cousins in any other relevant metric. He's narrower and lighter, probably not as strong.

Not going to argue with you on this anymore. Just. Not.

[veilside23]

on with the topic.... not who starts at the C for the kings... :D

JJ hickson will thrive with teams who has a pass first point guard...

boston
Indiana
ofcourse cp3 ...
PHX
Wash

just a few teams where he can get a 15-8 night in night out ;)..

Hickson is also the guy who floored blake griffin

http://tophatal.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/griffin-and-hickson.jpg

love this poster :D

[Lebron23]

on with the topic.... not who starts at the C for the kings... :D

JJ hickson will thrive with teams who has a pass first point guard...

boston
Indiana
ofcourse cp3 ...
PHX
Wash

just a few teams where he can get a 15-8 night in night out ;)..

Hickson is also the guy who floored blake griffin

http://tophatal.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/griffin-and-hickson.jpg

love this poster :D


JJ is a very good athlete.

[Godzuki]

:confusedshrug: I guess I, and virtually all Kings fans, have been watching a different team than you. There's also the fact that JT is listed as a PF and Cousins as a center to add to what I see on court. I'm not sure what else to say. :confusedshrug:

Anyway, JT is not bigger. If you want to disregard stated measurements and say he's taller, I'm not going to agree or disagree, but dude is NOT "bigger" than Cousins in any other relevant metric. He's narrower and lighter, probably not as strong.

Not going to argue with you on this anymore. Just. Not.


well i wasn't really arguing more than telling you what i'm 99.9% sure of. i figure the game tonight will prove a lot of what either of us are saying....especially in regards to their heights.

like i said i don't care about the official roster positions lists or heights. i'm talking about what you see when you're watching them in the game....

[33teeth]

JJ is a very good athlete.

Who puts it to little use... so far.

0.8 blocks per game per 36 mins. And he's never earned 36 mins consistently.

[irondarts]

well i wasn't really arguing more than telling you what i'm 99.9% sure of. i figure the game tonight will prove a lot of what either of us are saying....especially in regards to their heights.

like i said i don't care about the official roster positions lists or heights. i'm talking about what you see when you're watching them in the game....
JT guarding Z-Bo tonight, Cousins guarding Gasol.

[Godzuki]

JT guarding Z-Bo tonight, Cousins guarding Gasol.


i can't watch it right now, i'll try to catch the late night one...