So is the Blake Griffin being a once in a generation player fad over?

[28renyoy]

It seems like it. This guy was so overrated it wasn't even funny.

[liquidrage]

No one ever thought that. He's a Kevin Love level player but more flashy.

He was never ever considered a Top 5 player by anyone that matters at any time.

[28renyoy]

No one ever thought that. He's a Kevin Love level player but more flashy.

He was never ever considered a Top 5 player by anyone that matters at any time.

There were serious debates on whether or not he would be a better player than Durant

[liquidrage]

There were serious debates on whether or not he would be a better player than Durant



No. There were threads. Not serious debates.

There's a dude here that thinks OJ Mayo is a Top 10 player in the league. Doesn't warrant the rest of us starting threads about it.

[linZoMourning]

but but he can jump real high officah!!!

[klee]

Not to mention the debates of Griffin > Dirk.
:roll:

[linZoMourning]

Not to mention the debates of Griffin > Dirk.
:roll:

dont forget duncan to

[StroShow4]

He's not a once in a generation player, but he's a once in a generation ATHLETE, which is what I think most people are/were saying.

[TheMarkMadsen]

No one ever thought that. He's a Kevin Love level player but more flashy.

He was never ever considered a Top 5 player by anyone that matters at any time.

Lol @ the Kevin Love comparison.

Love can shoot better pass better, and the dude averages something like 25 &15. Was doing it big last year too.

Griffins a good player, 20 & 10 guy but isn't nearly as special as some people like to believe. He's flashy, that's his appeal. Well that and being a ginger & black at the same time. GOAT black ginger

[Whoah10115]

You all are very stupid and talk too much shit. Grow up, or at least don't spam up the first page.

[liquidrage]

Lol @ the Kevin Love comparison.

Love can shoot better pass better, and the dude averages something like 25 &15. Was doing it big last year too.

Griffins a good player, 20 & 10 guy but isn't nearly as special as some people like to believe. He's flashy, that's his appeal. Well that and being a ginger & black at the same time. GOAT black ginger

Love and Griffin are very comparable with how good they are. Love is not 25 and 15 on a better team. He's 18 and 10. Same with Griffin. But they'll score different ways.

For a big guy Love takes a LOT of shots. He's scoring 25 a game, but shooting just under .450 which for a big guy isn't special.

Blake gets 21 on .535 shooting but gets/takes 3 less shots a game.

Really, I don't see any issue with the comparison as far as how "good" they are.

[PrimeJohnnyDepp]

He'll figure it out.

[stallionaire]

There were serious debates on whether or not he would be a better player than Durant

Yeah.

I heard a lot of "Next LeBron" talk.

[Clippersfan86]

You all are very stupid and talk too much shit. Grow up, or at least don't spam up the first page.

:oldlol: . Griffin has the worst game of his career and Joyner comes out along with other trolls. They did it with Westbrook this year too though... so nothing new.

[TheBigVeto]

Not to mention the debates of Griffin > Dirk.
:roll:

Definitely one of the stupidest.

[Living Being]

OP is right, he's just a big black dude who can jump over the front of a Kia.:confusedshrug:

[Fiasco]

Joyner still makes me laugh.

[NuggetsFan]

I actually agree. People were hanging off his nuts. Remember saying that went he Clippers took that next step it wouldn't be with Blake averaging 25 points a game like some would have liked. It'd be with the team as a whole becoming more competitive.

Doesn't have the defensive potential to be the All-Time great PF. His offensive isn't Karl Malone like where he's going to average 28+ a game. Great rebounder, All-Star level scorer, average defender IMO.

[Scoooter]

I actually agree. People were hanging off his nuts. Remember saying that went he Clippers took that next step it wouldn't be with Blake averaging 25 points a game like some would have liked. It'd be with the team as a whole becoming more competitive.

Doesn't have the defensive potential to be the All-Time great PF. His offensive isn't Karl Malone like where he's going to average 28+ a game. Great rebounder, All-Star level scorer, average defender IMO.
In fairness...

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/files/2011/10/The-Chuckster-1011.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/DirkNowitzki.jpg/220px-DirkNowitzki.jpg

Not every great PF is Duncan or Garnett on that end of the court.

[stallionaire]

The poster 'BGriffinsDad' would adamently claim that Blake Griffin was the best PF in basketball. He would get upset at others Clippers fans who would slightly disagree with that (but they'd put him at #2 or #3 LOL).

Blake was grossly overrated, he's coming back down to earth now.

[imdaman99]

good, i was so sick and tired of his hype and his crappy dunk contest win

[IGOTGAME]

who said Griffin was once in a generation? Guys effect on the game is limited.

[SpecialQue]

He's the next Lebron, in terms of his athleticism.

He won't have Lebron's career, though.

[LoneyROY7]

This is what happens when you no longer have the luxury of playing alongside Eric Gordon...

[RRR3]

He's the next Lebron, in terms of his athleticism.

He won't have Lebron's career, though.
Eh....LeBron is the best athlete in NBA history (in b4 jlauber). I've seen better athletes than Blake

[mjokc]

Griffin is Amare's red headed step brother.

[Legends66NBA7]

Eh....LeBron is the best athlete in NBA history (in b4 jlauber).

I'd say he's one of the best, Top 3 too.

[NuggetsFan]

In fairness...

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/files/2011/10/The-Chuckster-1011.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/DirkNowitzki.jpg/220px-DirkNowitzki.jpg

Not every great PF is Duncan or Garnett on that end of the court.

Ya that's why I followed it up with All-Star level offense. Dirk and Barkley weren't the All-Time great defenders, but they were offensively. Blake shows the same weakness with defense but doesn't have their offensive game.

IMO anyways.

[SpecialQue]

Eh....LeBron is the best athlete in NBA history (in b4 jlauber). I've seen better athletes than Blake

Wilt was probably the greatest athlete to ever play in the NBA. Honestly though, Lebron's probably #2.

[RRR3]

Wilt was probably the greatest athlete to ever play in the NBA. Honestly though, Lebron's probably #2.
I'll take LeBron, but Wilt has a case for sure. Then again, there are probably some super athletic scrubs we never heard about.

[imdaman99]

Ya that's why I followed it up with All-Star level offense. Dirk and Barkley weren't the All-Time great defenders, but they were offensively. Blake shows the same weakness with defense but doesn't have their offensive game.

IMO anyways.
i really dont like griffin either, but its a little too early in his career to fairly judge his offensive prowess. maybe he will develop some offensive moves in the post eventually or have a hook shot or something. inconclusive evidence.

[SpecialQue]

I'll take LeBron, but Wilt has a case for sure. Then again, there are probably some super athletic scrubs we never heard about.

Randy Smith from the Braves/Clippers comes to mind.

[RRR3]

Randy Smith from the Braves/Clippers comes to mind.
HE was an all-star tho

[NuggetsFan]

i really dont like griffin either, but its a little too early in his career to fairly judge his offensive prowess. maybe he will develop some offensive moves in the post eventually or have a hook shot or something. inconclusive evidence.

Yeah didn't mean that he couldn't improve. I just don't think personally that he'll be an All-Time great PF as some have billed him as.

[qrich]

I'll take LeBron, but Wilt has a case for sure. Then again, there are probably some super athletic scrubs we never heard about.

James Singleton was pretty damn athletic.

[Clippersfan86]

I have a challenge for you guys. Tell me how Barkley's or Malone's offensive game was more expansive or superior in their 2nd season. Since you guys all want revise history.

Those are two of the top three all time PF's who both came in without great offensive games and didn't develop them till their 3rd and 4th seasons while largely relying on athleticism. Yet Griffin is being held at an even higher expectation despite none of you thinking he has all time great potential? GO FIGURE.

Stop holding him at all time great PF expectations if you don't think he has a shot to be an all time great PF. Logic.

[Clippersfan86]

Yeah didn't mean that he couldn't improve. I just don't think personally that he'll be an All-Time great PF as some have billed him as.

I still disagree. He's in a TERRIBLE offensive system with bad coaching and players who aren't going to him when they should. Not to mention most stars make a 3rd year leap, not 2nd. Get him a great coach and some bigman help and you'll see it.

[Gotterdammerung]

Wilt was probably the greatest athlete to ever play in the NBA. Honestly though, Lebron's probably #2.
Agreed.

Wilt averaged what 45 minutes per game? During the highest scoring era?

LeBron, Jordan, Doctor J & Kemp are in the top five though. Carter deserves a mention somewhere too.

Griffin is closer to Stoudemire in my book.

ETA forgot Carter.

[FKAri]

Agreed.

Wilt averaged what 45 minutes per game? During the highest scoring era?

LeBron, Jordan, Doctor J & Kemp are in the top five though. Carter deserves a mention somewhere too.

Griffin is closer to Stoudemire in my book.

ETA forgot Carter.

Shaq? :confusedshrug:

Size, strength, quickness, mobility.

[SpecialQue]

Shaq? :confusedshrug:

Size, strength, quickness, mobility.

Let's see Shaq play entire games without sitting on the bench at any point in the game, in an era when you were expect to play hurt and not take games off to "heal on company time."

[Gotterdammerung]

Damn. I knew I forgot someone. Also forgot Rodman and Olajuwon. :facepalm

I'm not impressed with Shaq's overall athleticism because Robinson was faster, quicker at the same height.

Shaquille weighed more and was stronger, he was never more than a two space rebounder. Didn't lead the league in blocks either. Didn't have that world class stamina as well.

[Thechosen1]

dudes average....hes the tyreke evans of power forwards...only reason their numbers looked remotely good was because they are athletic....they both suck at the game of basketball

[bdreason]

It's those alligator arms. Looks great for dunks, but doesn't help much with defending.

[AAckley1]

The thing about Blake & Kevin Love is...Blake can learn how to do some of the things Love can do. Theoretically, he COULD be able to become a 35%+ 3pt shooter. He COULD become a better passer.

Kevin Love can never add the ability to viciously boom over top of 99% of the league. Kevin Love will never be able to spin-move into dunk in transition.

Kevin Love is the better player. Blake Griffin COULD be way better than Kevin Love, all depending on how much work he wants to put in at the gym.

[Fiasco]

In reality, Griffin is in his sophomore year playing with an almost unrecognizable roster from his first year. He shares touches with arguably the best point guard in the league, playing under a coach that has no offensive/defensive system to speak of. I told people Griffin's numbers would take a hit after the Clippers added talent. Anyone with Griffin's athleticism and basketball IQ has the chance to be a generational player as far as I'm concerned. Games like tonight make it convenient for some posters to start threads like this and disparage his game, though, which actually makes me laugh. I will say that if Griffin was in his fifth year, the OP might have a point.

[Clippersfan86]

In reality, Griffin is in his sophomore year playing with an almost unrecognizable roster from his first year. He shares touches with arguably the best point guard in the league, playing under a coach that has no offensive/defensive system to speak of. I told people Griffin's numbers would take a hit after the Clippers added talent. Anyone with Griffin's athleticism and basketball IQ has the chance to be a generational player as far as I'm concerned. Games like tonight make it convenient for some posters to start threads like this and disparage his game, though, which actually makes me laugh. I will say that if Griffin was in his fifth year, the OP might have a point.

:applause:. Clippers now have their 8th or 9th new player of the season after Nick Young trade.

[Whoah10115]

Griffin is one of the best rookie PF's ever. And he's now adjusting to doing it on a good team. And he's fine. So someone close this thread, because it doesn't make any sense.

[ballinhun8]

There's no denying that he's not having as big a jump as he should have.



You can blame the system but great players become great no matter what. Playing with a top 5 PG should give him no excuse. He has looked disinterested and lost more then I thought he would. I assumed he woulda got better on D and I can't remember when I seen a player become a terrible FT shooter. He was good at it last year.



The only thing i could think of is he and Paul not knowing who the true leader of the team is, or if any of them truly are one.

[Fiasco]

There's no denying that he's not having as big a jump as he should have.

It's his sophomore year, a year where most players traditionally play worse than their rookie years. Coupled with a new roster and a "coach" (I have no idea what he is anymore) that only plans motivational speeches, it's a miracle he's not doing worse.



You can blame the system but great players become great no matter what.

This is patently false. Derrick Rose didn't make a gigantic leap in his second year under Del Negro, and he's the defending MVP. Griffin has to share the ball with Chris Paul, and it's obvious at this point whose touches are more important to this team.


Playing with a top 5 PG should give him no excuse. He has looked disinterested and lost more then I thought he would. I assumed he woulda got better on D and I can't remember when I seen a player become a terrible FT shooter. He was good at it last year.

And playing with a top 10 power forward should hypothetically give Chris Paul more than 8 assists a game, but reality prevents these notions from ever fulfilling themselves. He was not a "good" free throw shooter last year: Griffin was decidedly average. Griffin's man defense is passable but his help defense is atrocious... but what would you expect with a coach like Del Negro?


The only thing i could think of is he and Paul not knowing who the true leader of the team is, or if any of them truly are one.

.........or it could be something more obvious, like the team having no direction whatsoever.

[Droid101]

So is the OP being a f*ggot fad over?

My guess is no.

[FKAri]

The thing about Blake & Kevin Love is...Blake can learn how to do some of the things Love can do. Theoretically, he COULD be able to become a 35%+ 3pt shooter. He COULD become a better passer.

Kevin Love can never add the ability to viciously boom over top of 99% of the league. Kevin Love will never be able to spin-move into dunk in transition.

Kevin Love is the better player. Blake Griffin COULD be way better than Kevin Love, all depending on how much work he wants to put in at the gym.

And this right here is one of the biggest misconceptions people have. That an athletic guy can be taught everything. Theoretically Kevin Love can hit the gym and do nothing but box squats, etc and bring his vertical up. Doesn't mean it's going to be a drastic change.

Good thing is that Griffin isn't nearly as offensively inept as some people on this board believe so I do believe he has a lot of potential in those areas.

[ballinhun8]

It's his sophomore year, a year where most players traditionally play worse than their rookie years. Coupled with a new roster and a "coach" (I have no idea what he is anymore) that only plans motivational speeches, it's a miracle he's not doing worse.




This is patently false. Derrick Rose didn't make a gigantic leap in his second year under Del Negro, and he's the defending MVP. Griffin has to share the ball with Chris Paul, and it's obvious at this point whose touches are more important to this team.



And playing with a top 10 power forward should hypothetically give Chris Paul more than 8 assists a game, but reality prevents these notions from ever fulfilling themselves. He was not a "good" free throw shooter last year: Griffin was decidedly average. Griffin's man defense is passable but his help defense is atrocious... but what would you expect with a coach like Del Negro?



.........or it could be something more obvious, like the team having no direction whatsoever.


Everything you just said described Rose. Except playing wig a top PG. Although he shared handling duties with Hinrich and Gordon. Rose actually became an All Star his second year and improved his numbers acrossed the board excerpt apg. And his first two seasons saw as much roster change as Blake's did so that argument can't work all the time.



And we can't blame the coach all the time like I said. Griffin was and still is being held to a higher standard. Great players improve in their young years. James, Wade, Kobe, Rose, Dirk, Durant, Melo, Paul, Deron, guys who are franchise players which is what Griffin is and the bar he has to reach.

[Clippersfan86]

So nobody wants to give me footage or proof that Malone or Barkley in their 2nd years were better PF's or had more refined games? Or hell even played better D? I'll be waiting.

[Gotterdammerung]

So nobody wants to give me footage or proof that Malone or Barkley in their 2nd years were better PF's or had more refined games? Or hell even played better D? I'll be waiting.

They were better players in their 2nd seasons than they were in their rookie campaigns.

Barkley: from 14 ppg & 8.6 rpg & 1.9 ast in 28.6 minutes to 20 ppg & 12.8 rpg & 3.9 ast in 36.9 minutes. His team already had Moses Malone and Doctor J, and Moses was the leading scorer in 86, but the torch was being passed to him.

Malone: 14.9 ppg & 8.9 rpg & 2.9 apg in 30.6 minutes to 21.7 ppg & 10.4 & 1.9 apg in 34.8 mpg. Stockton was averaging only 22 minutes a game in his 2nd year, and the next best player was Darrell Griffith. :facepalm

[AAckley1]

And this right here is one of the biggest misconceptions people have. That an athletic guy can be taught everything. Theoretically Kevin Love can hit the gym and do nothing but box squats, etc and bring his vertical up. Doesn't mean it's going to be a drastic change.

Good thing is that Griffin isn't nearly as offensively inept as some people on this board believe so I do believe he has a lot of potential in those areas.

Griffin & Tyler Hansborough had the exact same measureables in almost ever category at the combine. TH50 isn't smashing his head into the backboard on a dunk at any point in his career.

The point is Blake could become a 40% 3pt shooter. Is he going to? Probably not. Considering FT % improvement is almost a direct correlation to time spent in the gym and Blake's has stayed pretty consistent since Oklahoma. Blake could never leave the gym and become a Top 5 PF ala Dirk. However he seems quite content to continue just dunking, drawing fouls & flopping to put up 20/10, when he could be putting up 28/10 by working tirelessly on his jumper & improving his FT %

[Clippersfan86]

They were better players in their 2nd seasons than they were in their rookie campaigns.

Barkley: from 14 ppg & 8.6 rpg & 1.9 ast in 28.6 minutes to 20 ppg & 12.8 rpg & 3.9 ast in 36.9 minutes. His team already had Moses Malone and Doctor J, and Moses was the leading scorer in 86, but the torch was being passed to him.

Malone: 14.9 ppg & 8.9 rpg & 2.9 apg in 30.6 minutes to 21.7 ppg & 10.4 & 1.9 apg in 34.8 mpg. Stockton was averaging only 22 minutes a game in his 2nd year, and the next best player was Darrell Griffith. :facepalm

Malone has worse stats, Barkley slightly better. Regardless.. if nobody acknowledges that he has all time great PF potential.. why hold him to that standard? It's illogical. Neither were good defenders either in their second year. Neither had expansive post games or a huge offensive arsenal.

[CardiacKemba]

So is the OP being a f*ggot fad over?

My guess is no.

:yaohappy:

[SacJB Shady]

I think Griffin has been overrated and I think David Lee has been underrated. Nobody talks about all the 20/10 games Lee gets because he's on GSW and because of his ''high'' contract.

[Quizno]

jesus people it's his second year, stop acting like you can predict the future :oldlol:

he needs more time, relax

[bizil]

Blake is redefining that freak athletic ability at the PF. It seemed Amare was the last guy to kinda do it. But Blake is stronger and more physical. Blake doesn't have Amare's scoring skillset, even though Blake puts just as many points in the hoop. Hell even more, but I feel Amare is simply splitting the pie with Melo and trying to find that chemistry in NY.

[LakersReign]

It seems like it. This guy was so overrated it wasn't even funny.

Most of the people talking the loudest trash were the pathetic Clippers bandwagoners, who jumped on the bandwagon the minute they signed Paul. And as predicted, the minute the Clippers started to lose games, they quickly jumped the bandwagon and hauled a**. Which is exactly why you can now count the number of Clippers/Griffin threads on here on one hand.:rolleyes:

[PrimeJohnnyDepp]

good, i was so sick and tired of his hype and his crappy dunk contest win

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLJY-N9QSD8

[SpecialQue]

Troll logic is fvcking hilarious. As last season went on Blake was clearly given the role of leader of the franchise by Baron, who was more than happy to take a backseat. The second best player on the team was Eric Gordon, who was out a good chunk of the season. In fact, if I remember correctly Baron, Gordon and Kaman were all out for a substantial amount of time because of injuries. This means that much of what was happening with that team was through Blake, so of course he was more productive. Plus, for the most part, they were a young team without much veteran experience.

Now he has a top point guard starting, who has CLEARLY taken over as the leader of the team. The roster is filled with vet players, and how much of that young team from last season is still there? DJ? Bledsoe? There are waaaaaaay more scoring options on the team this season than last, so Blake's not going to get nearly as many touches as he did last season.

[LoneyROY7]

Troll logic is fvcking hilarious. As last season went on Blake was clearly given the role of leader of the franchise by Baron, who was more than happy to take a backseat. The second best player on the team was Eric Gordon, who was out a good chunk of the season. In fact, if I remember correctly Baron, Gordon and Kaman were all out for a substantial amount of time because of injuries. This means that much of what was happening with that team was through Blake, so of course he was more productive. Plus, for the most part, they were a young team without much veteran experience.

Now he has a top point guard starting, who has CLEARLY taken over as the leader of the team. The roster is filled with vet players, and how much of that young team from last season is still there? DJ? Bledsoe? There are waaaaaaay more scoring options on the team this season than last, so Blake's not going to get nearly as many touches as he did last season.

Blake averaged 23.5 ppg WITH Gordon on the floor for 55 games last season. Blake and Gordon were perfect compliments to one another.

[Unstop]

i like blake and its normal that fans overrating their own players.

its true that the clippers are not that great at the moment, but billupps is still missing, so maybe they need a good shooter to play more effective.

anyway. u cant judge people for a season or for a few games.
its always like that on this forum.
i mean... most of the people who start threads are pretty stupid or have too much time thinking about a guy who can still improove his game.

on the other hand... i hated this bandwagon with the clippers...so normally u get what u deserve crying like ur the best team in the league.
maybe everyone is comin down to earth.
but i guess its starting again when blake is making a deep run in the playoffs...then clip fans comin out and sayin "yeah like i said!!" next year blake is not even comin into the playoffs...and blake haters comin out...its a cicle :wtf:
have fun^^ :lol i see the future!! :bowdown:

[B-Easy8]

No one ever thought that. He's a Kevin Love level player but more flashy.

He was never ever considered a Top 5 player by anyone that matters at any time.

Love is far better than Griffin in every aspect aside from dunking.

How can you be that athletic and average such a small amount of blocks?

[SacJB Shady]

Love is far better than Griffin in every aspect aside from dunking.

How can you be that athletic and average such a small amount of blocks?


Loves lay hasn't led to wins

[B-Easy8]

Loves lay hasn't led to wins

The Wolves last season were horrendous so there was nothing he could have done.

This year we were on a roll before Rubio got injured. Our guard and wing play is terrible and we won't make the playoffs until we fix it, in my opinion our best wing (Beasley) is still riding bench for the scrub duo of Wes and Webster.

I still think if we were in the East we could make the playoffs.

[NumberSix]

Once in a lifetime flopper

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Damn. I knew I forgot someone. Also forgot Rodman and Olajuwon. :facepalm

I'm not impressed with Shaq's overall athleticism because Robinson was faster, quicker at the same height.

Shaquille weighed more and was stronger, he was never more than a two space rebounder. Didn't lead the league in blocks either. Didn't have that world class stamina as well.
So the most dominant player of all time doesn't impress you? You're a smart guy.

[VeeCee15]

blake griffin is once in a generation....for having the shortest arms in proportion to his height.

Freaking t rex.

[SpecialQue]

So the most dominant player of all time doesn't impress you? You're a smart guy.

I love how you bolded the first part of his sentence and completely ignored the rest, which clearly explains WHY he's not impressed by Shaq's athleticism.

[Artillery]

It's because the stat nerds and player fans overrate players like Griffin and Love who put up guady numbers on weak teams.

[Gotterdammerung]

Malone has worse stats, Barkley slightly better. Regardless.. if nobody acknowledges that he has all time great PF potential.. why hold him to that standard? It's illogical. Neither were good defenders either in their second year. Neither had expansive post games or a huge offensive arsenal.

Ah you were comparing their second seasons to Blake's, not the rate of improvement from the rookie to the sophomore campaign.

Well, then it's not true that rookies get worse in their second year (someone said this). :biggums:

We should be comparing Blake Griffin to Tim Duncan, who dominated from day 1, instead of Barkley or Malone, who weren't dominant as rookies. :no:

[Gotterdammerung]

So the most dominant player of all time doesn't impress you? You're a smart guy.
:kobe:
Correct. I don't subscribe to either media logic, nor Shaq's own tattoo.

Shaq's dominance is clearly overrated:
no rebounding titles. 1 scoring titles. No defensive player of the year awards.
Only 1 MVP in 17 seasons... Need I go on?
:yaohappy:

[Gotterdammerung]

I love how you bolded the first part of his sentence and completely ignored the rest, which clearly explains WHY he's not impressed by Shaq's athleticism.

Ditto.

Neither evidence nor logic affect them - only homer/troll logic will. :oldlol:

[Droid101]

Seriously, this is the worst overreaction thread of the week. He has one bad game against a team that is clearly better and somehow this means he's a garbage player?

[Soundwave]

They should move him for Dwight Howard. Blake is a good player, but Dwight is simply another couple of tiers above and if you have a chance to land a player like that, you move on it IMO.

[kingBynum]

he's a bum with no heart, whiny, plays no D, and can't shoot:oldlol:

[bsyde82]

Without commenting on his game, my observations of his on court demeanor lead me to conclude that he's an entitled douchebag, which will hinder his development as a player, because entitled douchebags just don't work as hard.

Lebron would fall in this class, but he's just so so so much more talented and physically dominant at his position that it didn't really matter as much. But he still has shortcomings in his game, or did until this season, a lot of which I attribute to that entitled mindset.

Seriously though, that glare he always gives after something doesn't go his way is probably the most irritating sight in the NBA for me right now.

[tmacattack33]

Seriously, this is the worst overreaction thread of the week. He has one bad game against a team that is clearly better and somehow this means he's a garbage player?

One bad game?

:biggums:

[AAckley1]

Without commenting on his game, my observations of his on court demeanor lead me to conclude that he's an entitled douchebag, which will hinder his development as a player, because entitled douchebags just don't work as hard.

Lebron would fall in this class, but he's just so so so much more talented and physically dominant at his position that it didn't really matter as much. But he still has shortcomings in his game, or did until this season, a lot of which I attribute to that entitled mindset.

Seriously though, that glare he always gives after something doesn't go his way is probably the most irritating sight in the NBA for me right now.

This is almost the exact same thing I said in my post. Blake COULD be the GOAT PF. Yet, it doesn't seem like he wants to do the extra work necessary because he'd rather just dunk on someone and be on Top 10 every night

[Droid101]

One bad game?

:biggums:
Yeah... this was posted right after his 7pts/7reb game.

Per 36 minutes his stats are almost identical to last season, just a little bit lower across the board but with HIGHER shooting percentage and PER this season.

Exactly what happens when you pick up a bunch of effective veterans. Remember when Kobe and Shaq took on Payton and Malone? All four of their stats dropped dramatically that season. Did that mean they suddenly became garbage? :facepalm

[tmacattack33]

Yeah... this was posted right after his 7pts/7reb game.

Per 36 minutes his stats are almost identical to last season, just a little bit lower across the board but with HIGHER shooting percentage and PER this season.

Exactly what happens when you pick up a bunch of effective veterans. Remember when Kobe and Shaq took on Payton and Malone? All four of their stats dropped dramatically that season. Did that mean they suddenly became garbage? :facepalm


So you are saying we should be impressed that he hasn't gone down since last year?

Should we give him a cookie for that? :biggums: <-- I'd use a Chris Rock smiley here, but we don't have one.



Shouldn't he be getting BETTER?