Best Conditioned Athlete in the NBA

[SacJB Shady]

Out of all the players, who do you think is the best conditioned as far as stamina, durability, ect...?

[blablabla]

Rip Hamilton

[roffie]

grant hill

[wally_world]

Monta Ellis
Andre Iguodala
Andre Miller
Russell Westbrook

[Batz]

LeBron James. Playing 40 mpg his entire career, 44 in the playoffs at the highest intensity and I can't remember one notable injury he has had.

Except for the whole elbow fiasco.

[alenleomessi]

lebron and westbrook are never tired or injured

[ballerz]

Ray allen has to up there

[pauk]

Lebron

[CardiacKemba]

lebron and westbrook are never tired or injured

This. Plus Ray Allen.

[Rnbizzle]

You've gotta go with Lebron here. Guys like Ray Allen are in great shape and what they are doing at their age is amazing. But Lebron is on a whole nother level. Dude is virtually indestructible.

[DMV2]

Ray allen has to up there
First name came to my mind.

[SpecialQue]

Nash? how bout fisher? no seriously

Fish would get more credit for his durability if he wasn't such a slow, crappy player.

[NumberSix]

LeBron or Dwight

[I<3NBA]

i think Eddy Curry has a fighting chance.

[Nash-tastic]

http://www.thenational.ae/deployedfiles/Assets/Richmedia/Image/jan19-leBron.jpg
Love him or hate him, I don't think there's any debate he's probably the most well conditioned athlete in the league. Dude plays so many minutes, takes so much beating and hardly misses any games.

[Jasi]

Yup, LeBron takes this.

He's not tested yet in terms of longevity, but it looks like it won't be a problem for him.

I'll mention Ray Ray also, he deserves it.

[arifgokcen]

This is by a mile lebron james.I still dont understand how a guy his size moves around like that for 40mpg.Especially in cavs days every single position he had an impact whether its defensively or offensively.He really never had an injury besides that elbow thing! thats amazing thing some of the hard fouls he takes, falls down and bounces right back up.

[donald_trump]

lebron and westbrook.

i cant imagine how much wear and tear that is causing on the knees with the way they play, yet, maybe its not considering they are damn near indestructible.

[arifgokcen]

lebron and westbrook.

i cant imagine how much wear and tear that is causing on the knees with the way they play, yet, maybe its not considering they are damn near indestructible.

They are both indestructible but i dont think you can compare them both because lebron is 70 lbs heavier than westbrook and he jumps higher than westbrook.The wear and tear on lebron knees is much more than on westbrook knees.

BTW lebron joints are so big this is why he doesnt get hurt and moves the way like he does at almost 270lbs.Westbrook is only 190lbs.

[nathanjizzle]

russell westbrook. no one over 220 can be "best conditioned" for any sport, its impossible.

[Rnbizzle]

russell westbrook. no one over 220 can be "best conditioned" for any sport, its impossible.
http://www.everyjoe.com/nbaobsessed/files/2009/04/lebron-james-nc-krtphotoslive350819-sports-pistons.jpg

:coleman:

[nathanjizzle]

http://www.everyjoe.com/nbaobsessed/files/2009/04/lebron-james-nc-krtphotoslive350819-sports-pistons.jpg

:coleman:

thats my point, lebron isnt best conditioned due to his size, check his endurance and stamina.

[Jasi]

This thread is about stamina and durability, not only being ripped.

If that was the case, Iggy and Dwight deserve a mention.

[LJJ]

Andre Miller.

[theaussieguy]

it would have to be Fisher, he hasn't missed a game in some crazy number, in the hundreds if we were talking durability and stamina in a wider sense. Ahh the wonders of modern chemistry.

[donald_trump]

thats my point, lebron isnt best conditioned due to his size, check his endurance and stamina.

what are you on about?

his endurance and stamina is amazing. plays just about every game, and has the highest career average in mpg in the league at the moment.
what are you on about, or are you just hating for the fact its lebron? and since when does your arbitrary figure of 220lbs being the cut off matter? :oldlol:

[stallionaire]

Lebron

[KenneBell]

how bout kobe?
Nah, he's just a 33 year old closing in on 50,000 minutes played with one of the highest mpg averages in the league. Nothing special. :oldlol:

[nathanjizzle]

what are you on about?

his endurance and stamina is amazing. plays just about every game, and has the highest career average in mpg in the league at the moment.
what are you on about, or are you just hating for the fact its lebron? and since when does your arbitrary figure of 220lbs being the cut off matter? :oldlol:

name me some professional track stars from the Olympics that are above 220 pounds. you know, the sport that is all about endurance and stamina and condition?

no way lebron is lasting longer in stanima and endurance than smaller players in the nba.

[arifgokcen]

russell westbrook. no one over 220 can be "best conditioned" for any sport, its impossible.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Impossible really
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[arifgokcen]

name me some professional track stars from the Olympics that are above 220 pounds. you know, the sport that is all about endurance and stamina and condition?

no way lebron is lasting longer in stanima and endurance than smaller players in the nba.

Do you know anything about human body.This is one of the most ignorant posts i have seen in a while.BTW we are talking about nba players.

Just to hate this guy wow.

How old r u

[Bandito]

I think Kobe is the best athlete in terms of condition. Not that Lebron is bad but Kobe has average a lot of minutes for 16 years!

[arifgokcen]

name me some professional track stars from the Olympics that are above 220 pounds. you know, the sport that is all about endurance and stamina and condition?

no way lebron is lasting longer in stanima and endurance than smaller players in the nba.

Lebron is playing more minutes than everybody since he entered the league.He is taking the most beating because of his size we rarely notice.He probably jumps higher than anybody except green.He is probably the fastest player at sf in history.He is literally indestructible.Especially in playoffs he guards the best player almost plays the whole game and his energy level at the end of the games is amazing.Including most nba player agree he is the best athlete in nba.Probably the most athletic guy to ever play in modern era.He is doing all these while playing more than anybody on the floor.His offensive production and defensive effort is unheard of in modern era since MJ.Sorry but gtfo

[Jotaro Durant]

future best conditioned already making waves-westbrook
currant-james
longevity-bryant or ray allen

[arifgokcen]

I think Kobe is the best athlete in terms of condition. Not that Lebron is bad but Kobe has average a lot of minutes for 16 years!

Kobe has injured himself to many times to be even considered best conditioned.There is a reason guys like lebron howard and westbrook doesnt get injured.I dont think many of you knows what best conditioned means in this context

[swi7ch]

LBJ and D12 makes everyone look like a fatty.

[HylianNightmare]

http://thoughtsinpassingdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/andreiguodalagref5wuvibjm.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

Lebron is playing more minutes than everybody since he entered the league.He is taking the most beating because of his size we rarely notice.He probably jumps higher than anybody except green.He is probably the fastest player at sf in history.He is literally indestructible.Especially in playoffs he guards the best player almost plays the whole game and his energy level at the end of the games is amazing.Including most nba player agree he is the best athlete in nba.Probably the most athletic guy to ever play in modern era.He is doing all these while playing more than anybody on the floor.His offensive production and defensive effort is unheard of in modern era since MJ.Sorry but gtfo

what does that have to do with anything with the ops question

Out of all the players, who do you think is the best conditioned as far as stamina, durability, ect...?

yes lebron is the most athletic due to his size and his strength and descent basketball skills. But that doesnt mean hes the most conditioned for basketball. No one that understands the basic concept of conditioning for a sport will tell you that lebron at 240 pounds is in more conditioned than players like westbrook and rose at 180 pounds. Theres a reason why marathon runners and sprinters are skinny.

[Punpun]

Kobe has injured himself to many times to be even considered best conditioned.There is a reason guys like lebron howard and westbrook doesnt get injured.I dont think many of you knows what best conditioned means in this context

So that's why the top spot is Fisher. NOBODY is has conditioned as Fisher. NOBODY. He didn't miss ONE game in like 10 Years. He has the most consecutive games as a starter out of anyone in the NBA (all-time). Can't compete against that kind of conditioning.

Here proof. Look at his body. Dat conditioning.

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c506253ef01310fb1130e970c-320wi



He was 35 yo in that pic.

[get these NETS]

name me some professional track stars from the Olympics that are above 220 pounds. you know, the sport that is all about endurance and stamina and condition?

no way lebron is lasting longer in stanima and endurance than smaller players in the nba.

pro boxers....are among the best conditioned athletes in sports....

heavyweights are sometimes over 220

I also think you might find some decathletes who are above 200 and maybe 220 pounds and the decathlon is usually considered the measure of the BEST overall athletes in the world



amateur wrestlers have weight class above 220 I think...those guys are some of the best conditioned athletes in the world also




pippen and david robinson played above 220 and they were some of the most finely tuned athletes of any sports ever.....lebron is in their class.

[Punpun]

And yet in the NBA, Derek is in a class of his own. Pay respect where it's due.

[Quickening]

what does that have to do with anything with the ops question


yes lebron is the most athletic due to his size and his strength and descent basketball skills. But that doesnt mean hes the most conditioned for basketball. No one that understands the basic concept of conditioning for a sport will tell you that lebron at 240 pounds is in more conditioned than players like westbrook and rose at 180 pounds. Theres a reason why marathon runners and sprinters are skinny.

Sprinters are built like tanks... and why are you comparing basketball players to marathon runners.:lol :oldlol:

Best conditioned is specific to your sport, and what makes you effective in it... you saying a weightlifter with a marathon runners physique would be the best conditioned for that sport.

Lebron has the best mix of durablity and athletic ability in the NBA.

[Punpun]

That's not akin to best conditioning tho. Lebron is up ther eal l right. Tho Derek FIsher is so above everyone it's not even funny.

[Pointguard]

what does that have to do with anything with the ops question


yes lebron is the most athletic due to his size and his strength and descent basketball skills. But that doesnt mean hes the most conditioned for basketball. No one that understands the basic concept of conditioning for a sport will tell you that lebron at 240 pounds is in more conditioned than players like westbrook and rose at 180 pounds. Theres a reason why marathon runners and sprinters are skinny.

Wilt Chamberlain used to do 50 mile marathons when he was 50 years old and he was like 300 lbs. at the time.

[Nanners]

I am gonna go with westbrook or dwight. i put those two on top not only because they are amazing athletes, but also because neither of them have ever missed a game due to an injury. lebron and derrick rose are very close to dwight and westbrook, but since they are slightly more injury prone im going to use that to separate them on to a lower tier (and its only just barely below)

[Pointguard]

In Clevelend Lebron would handle every possession, get fouled like crazy, average 43 minutes, guard the hot defender, chase down fastbreak players, and this would be the playoffs. Not only that but making critical decisions tires you out as well.

[get these NETS]

That's not akin to best conditioning tho. Lebron is up ther eal l right. Tho Derek FIsher is so above everyone it's not even funny.


how is it Fish?


Jason Kidd is older..plays more minutes and draws tougher defensive assignments.....so does that make him better conditioned than Fish?

[get these NETS]

it's lebron by a mile

[Nanners]

how is it Fish?


Jason Kidd is older..plays more minutes and draws tougher defensive assignments.....so does that make him better conditioned than Fish?

kidd has excellent conditioning for his age. one of the most memorable moments from last years finals was watching kidd alternate between shutting down wade and lebron.

[JellyBean]

Ray Allen

[Eric Cartman]

Wilt Chamberlain right now.

[chairman]

Loul Deng easily, can play 45min a night with amazing defense and offense.

[Rnbizzle]

I am gonna go with westbrook or dwight. i put those two on top not only because they are amazing athletes, but also because neither of them have ever missed a game due to an injury. lebron and derrick rose are very close to dwight and westbrook, but since they are slightly more injury prone im going to use that to separate them on to a lower tier (and its only just barely below)
Lebron and injuries? Really? Where the hell did you pull that load of crap from?

[Nanners]

Lebron and injuries? Really? Where the hell did you pull that load of crap from?

nice reading comprehension dumb ass. i said "slightly more injury prone". lebron has never played 82 games in a season. westbrook has payed 82 games in every season.

[CavaliersFTW]

Ray Allen is in the top 10 for sure.

http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20110121/f71e17_ray_01212011.jpg

You aren't as old as he is and still able to move off the ball non-stop tiring all the young defenders unless you are extremely well conditioned. I'm always impressed by Ray Allen's mobility. He's got the potential to have a very extended career like KAJ, Parish, or Malone for all the same reasons. If you watch him he doesn't just shoot, you gotta watch him off the ball - he wears out younger guys all the time. Very well conditioned athlete - he's got potential for "40's" longevity with that kind of fitness.

[CLTHornets4eva]

Wilt Chamberlain used to do 50 mile marathons when he was 50 years old and he was like 300 lbs. at the time.

Really, dude. Do you really believe that? :coleman:

[Punpun]

how is it Fish?


Jason Kidd is older..plays more minutes and draws tougher defensive assignments.....so does that make him better conditioned than Fish?I explained why on an earlier post. Read it.

[RRR3]

Loul Deng easily, can play 45min a night with amazing defense and offense.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[CavaliersFTW]

Really, dude. Do you really believe that? :coleman:

Not saying it's true... but your talking about the guy who played 48.5mpg...

[get these NETS]

So that's why the top spot is Fisher. NOBODY is has conditioned as Fisher. NOBODY. He didn't miss ONE game in like 10 Years. He has the most consecutive games as a starter out of anyone in the NBA (all-time). Can't compete against that kind of conditioning.

Here proof. Look at his body. Dat conditioning.





He was 35 yo in that pic.

i did read this.....was wondering what your REAL reasoning was.

not missing a start in 10 years shows that he's durable and plays an on the ground game that lends itself to not getting hurt but how does that make him better conditioned than a guy who played same amount of seasons and 1.5 times the minutes and plays a more athletic style?


do you think brett favre was at ANY time of his career a better conditioned player than terrel owens ?


has all time consecutive starts record (i think)...he was tough and durable but chris carter was probably a better conditioned athlete than he was at ANY time of their careers.

[Punpun]

Lebron missed more games than Fisher. That's the difference in conditioning.

[Rnbizzle]

Lebron missed more games than Fisher. That's the difference in conditioning.
Has nothing to do with conditioning. Maybe Fisher has just been lucky avoiding injuries.

[get these NETS]

Lebron missed more games than Fisher. That's the difference in conditioning.
ok...you're either playing....which would be sad

or serious..which would be more sad

[Punpun]

Has nothing to do with conditioning. Maybe Fisher has just been lucky avoiding injuries.

Luck become a non factor after you played for such a LONG time without missing games. Face it, at 37 years old, FIsher is weighing 210 lbs. Lebron has like 6 inches on him yet only weighs 40 more lbs. Comparetively, Fisher is more fit than Lebron.

[Killbot]

I would say Ray, Lebron, and Dwight.


LBJ and D12 makes everyone look like a fatty.

Ray Allen hasn't eaten a cheeseburger in 19 or 20 years.

[Rnbizzle]

Luck become a non factor after you played for such a LONG time without missing games. Face it, at 37 years old, FIsher is weighing 210 lbs. Lebron has like 6 inches on him yet only weighs 40 more lbs. Comparetively, Fisher is more fit than Lebron.
Both of the things you're trying to prove here are ridiculous and your reasoning is far from perfect.

[Noob Saibot]

any player playing over 50000 minutes in their career.

[arifgokcen]

Luck become a non factor after you played for such a LONG time without missing games. Face it, at 37 years old, FIsher is weighing 210 lbs. Lebron has like 6 inches on him yet only weighs 40 more lbs. Comparetively, Fisher is more fit than Lebron.
Lebron is not 250 he was 266 lbs a the start of the season.Right now probably 270 lbs

[Tmuston Beltics]

Wilt Chamberlain used to do 50 mile marathons when he was 50 years old and he was like 300 lbs. at the time.



Hmm someone comes to my mind when I read all these rumours about Chamberlain.. Wonder who?? Oh yeah

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_j-aDvi8-upk/S2sZxzT4plI/AAAAAAAAAjM/XLg-YNGkBCw/s320/kim-jong-il.jpg

[SwooshReturns]

Easily LeBron. And it has nothing to do with working out and staying in shape. I'm pretty sure he really doesn't have to ... and last year was partying his ass off all the time on South Beach.

It's more so cause this guy was created in a lab with Captain America's super soldier serum.

:oldlol:

[D-Wade316]

russell westbrook. no one over 220 can be "best conditioned" for any sport, its impossible.
:facepalm

[Mr. Jabbar]

Lebron looks pretty tired in the 4ths :oldlol:

[LJJ]

I think a big reason for Fisher's superb record of games played over the past years has to do with the fact that he doesn't do that much.

He dribbles the ball up the court, he moves around on the perimeter and does a bit of the old catch-and-shoot. That's pretty much all he does. He doesn't penetrate that much, doesn't try to get rebounds, plays it safe on defense and generally doesn't exert himself.

And I wouldn't say well condition because he plays so many games with the style that he has, because what is his energy level when he is playing? He doesn't play with that much energy at all.

[LBJMVP]

what does that have to do with anything with the ops question


yes lebron is the most athletic due to his size and his strength and descent basketball skills. But that doesnt mean hes the most conditioned for basketball. No one that understands the basic concept of conditioning for a sport will tell you that lebron at 240 pounds is in more conditioned than players like westbrook and rose at 180 pounds. Theres a reason why marathon runners and sprinters are skinny.

look at how skinny usain bolt is.... god your stupd :facepalm

http://fitnessfreak24.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Usain-Bolt-olympic-champ.jpg

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Fisher does nothing.. thats why he never gets injured. He brings the ball up and shoots jumpers...

[Pointguard]

KG used to play with intensity for the whole game on both sides of the court and be about as productive as anybody in the game. Ray and RIP Hamilton used to be in perpetual motion.

[talkingconch]

Derek Fisher

[SwooshReturns]

Ray and RIP Hamilton used to be in perpetual motion.
Honestly ... when I play ball ... those guys are tougher to guard than what you consider your traditional star player, who catch the ball and ISO.

I can handle that, hell I get up for that. Moving in short bursts laterally, stopping dribble penetration, showing a guy he can't break me down.

But dudes who know how to v-cut, continue moving ALL THE TIME, use screens properly.

Jesus, they wear you out.

[Pointguard]

Really, dude. Do you really believe that? :coleman:

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/apr/11/sports/sp-26445

Its an Associated Press article - the premier authority of the media and only 12 years ago. Wilt, always ran cross country since high school. He did a lot of Marathon's. Heck, 48.5 minutes at the fastest pace of basketball while scoring 50ppg and gathering 25 rebounds is an 80 game marathon.

[Pointguard]

Derek Fisher
I heard Derek Fisher ran all the way to OKC - and it was the most run he got since being in the NBA. :lol

[Pointguard]

Honestly ... when I play ball ... those guys are tougher to guard than what you consider your traditional star player, who catch the ball and ISO.

I can handle that, hell I get up for that. Moving in short bursts laterally, stopping dribble penetration, showing a guy he can't break me down.

But dudes who know how to v-cut, continue moving ALL THE TIME, use screens properly.

Jesus, they wear you out.
Yeah, annoying too. Spend a lot of time hating them.

[SwooshReturns]

Yeah, annoying too. Spend a lot of time hating them.
Yea, seriously ... then I don't have my energy to do my thing on offense.

[DuMa]

no one mentioned corey maggette?

[Orlando Magic]

Dwight Howard. I don't care if it's the "homer" pick or not.

The dude is averaging almost 39 mpg and he takes a bigger beating in the post than any other player in the league on a nightly basis and yet he still is faster throughout the entire game than any other center up and down the court.

I am fairly certain he has only missed 3 games due to injury for his entire career.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Steve Nash, Ray Allen, Kobe Bryant.
And this

Easily LeBron. And it has nothing to do with working out and staying in shape. I'm pretty sure he really doesn't have to ... and last year was partying his ass off all the time on South Beach.

It's more so cause this guy was created in a lab with Captain America's super soldier serum.

[theaussieguy]

Steve Nash, Ray Allen, Kobe Bryant.
And this
ignorant as ***. All these stars are on something. I am not saying its a bad thing, its just a reality that if you want to maintain consistency at this level of pretty much any sport, youd be a fool not to use some substances to help you. So yes these guys can get away with partying and all that because they are on daily doses of hgh as well as amphetamines in some cases.

HGH, over a period of time gives a sort of fullness you see in players like Lebron, Wade, heck even Derek Fisher. I just find it so hilarious that players think Lebron is ALL genetic freak. Most of him is genetic freak, but his endurance is definately helped by the HGH/whatever else out there that is undetectable by drug testers of which there are many many choices.

[Styles p]

thad young, dude could run all day long.

[lilgodfather1]

i think Eddy Curry has a fighting chance.
Only if the question was who can eat 30 McDonald's cheesburgers the fastest.

[Droid101]

Dwight Howard never looks tired, has to play hard on offense and defense every possession, and never misses games. He gets my vote.

[Harison]

Lebron is insanely conditioned, epic stamina.

From vets - KG, playing his 17th season, every minute of every game like its the last, on both sides of the floor.

Kobe also logged insane minutes, epic work ethics - same as KG or Ray, always in great shape. While sometimes Kobe is cruising, what I admire about him is warrior spirit - plays through pain like its nothing.

All-time - Wilt, followed by MJ.

[zay_24]

Wilt Chamberlain used to do 50 mile marathons when he was 50 years old and he was like 300 lbs. at the time.
:coleman:

[RazorBaLade]

pau gets upset when he plays a lot and becomes soft but im pretty sure ive never ever seen the guy breathe hard or look tired at all.

unreal.

[Heavincent]

Kobe.

[gregboy55]

Ray Allen