Austin Rivers leaving Duke, going for NBA draft

[tomtucker]

no fukking way man :facepalm ....i can

[heyhey]

why is it so hard to believe? not an incredibly strong or top heavy draft, i think the whole staying in college longer for development is overblown, you get better training facilities and coaches on the pro level and learn the pro game

[christian1923]

why is it so hard to believe? not an incredibly strong or top heavy draft, i think the whole staying in college longer for development is overblown, you get better training facilities and coaches on the pro level and learn the pro game
:coleman: are you serious?

[Jotaro Durant]

he gonna be a bust watch

[InspiredLebowski]

So the Celtics are on the clock, Rivers hasn't been picked, what do you do?

[christian1923]

So the Celtics are on the clock, Rivers hasn't been picked, what do you do?

Pick him unless there is a better Sg on the board

[Tenchi Ryu]

Pick him unless there is a better Sg on the board
I know this is pro ball and everything, but that's gonna be so damn chessy....son playing on his fathers team....

That's some disney shit
:lol :lol :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

No way he's ready

[FlawlessVictory]

meh, If he is entering the draft then he has got the blessing of Doc imo; with that in mind, he must be ready. He probably wont be a top 10 pick, so the pressure on him to be a big success in his first year wont be huge.

I actually think it would be far more beneficial for him not to get drafted by the Celtics - That will just put huge pressure on his back, especially in the immediate aftermath of the KG and Allen era.

[Nash]

If Austin Rivers is still available when Boston has their pick they'll get him easily. And I hope they do, would be awesome to see son play for dad.

[Grinder]

So the Celtics are on the clock, Rivers hasn't been picked, what do you do?

Draft the best big man available. Mason Plumlee, Meyers Leonard, Arnett Moultrie, Festus Ezeli, etc.

I think some team will take a chance on him in the 12-15 range.

[chips93]

No way he's ready

im sure hes ready to get paid

[alwaysunny]

I know this is pro ball and everything, but that's gonna be so damn chessy....son playing on his fathers team....

That's some disney shit
:lol :lol :lol

He should grow back that Jonas Brothers hair

[Whoah10115]

meh, If he is entering the draft then he has got the blessing of Doc imo; with that in mind, he must be ready. He probably wont be a top 10 pick, so the pressure on him to be a big success in his first year wont be huge.

I actually think it would be far more beneficial for him not to get drafted by the Celtics - That will just put huge pressure on his back, especially in the immediate aftermath of the KG and Allen era.



I would be good, I think. Either the older guys will still be there, which would bring down the pressure and he'd have them in his ear...and if they're gone, they're rebuilding, but with Pierce and Rondo as the other perimeter players, so he's surrounded by great players.




Unless he just prefers to not be on his Dad's team, as the guy stuff could be awkward.

[bdreason]

Tweener guard that will end up as a quality 6th man.

[BlazersDozen]

why is it so hard to believe? not an incredibly strong or top heavy draft, i think the whole staying in college longer for development is overblown, you get better training facilities and coaches on the pro level and learn the pro game

In college, you learn how to dominate the basics of the game & do more than just rely on your natural talent. Why do you think guys with potemtial and stay shoot up to the top of the nba so quick like Wade & Roy did?

Theres obviously guys who don't need to stay but Rivers does need to stay. Hes still to raw.

[alenleomessi]

he will be a star imo

[chocolatethunder]

why is it so hard to believe? not an incredibly strong or top heavy draft,

IDIOT ALERT:biggums:

[(e)]

No surprise at all.

[midatlantic09]

He's probably just testing the waters. If it looks like he'll go in the top 10, he'll probably leave. If not, he'll pull his name out of the draft before the deadline.

In any event, i think he's ready for the NBA. He needs to get a bit stronger, but by his 2nd/3rd season in the NBA, I envision him being an 18 pts, 5 rebs, 6 ast type player.

[Derka]

We can't get rebounds to save our lives, so let's draft a shooting guard who, to my eyes, needs another year or two in college?

I like the kid, don't get me wrong. But one season in college isn't enough for Austin. His game needs a lot of work still.

[Kevin_Gamble]

In college, you learn how to dominate the basics of the game & do more than just rely on your natural talent. Why do you think guys with potemtial and stay shoot up to the top of the nba so quick like Wade & Roy did?

Theres obviously guys who don't need to stay but Rivers does need to stay. Hes still to raw.

Because Wade and Roy are good players. For every Wade, there are hundreds of players who come out of college after 4 years and continue to suck.

[Mr. Incredible]

dumb move

[RedBlackAttack]

why is it so hard to believe? not an incredibly strong or top heavy draft, i think the whole staying in college longer for development is overblown, you get better training facilities and coaches on the pro level and learn the pro game
He will be a mid-first round pick. There are SEVERAL wings in this strong draft way ahead of him. I think this is a mistake and I'm a bit surprised. Then again, he probably made this one-and-done decision a long time ago (as in, before he even chose Duke).

He was supposed to be a phenom coming out of high school. While he had a pretty nice first season, suffice to say he didn't quite live up to his billing.

I'm going to guess he goes in the 15-20 range.

[Kevin_Gamble]

He's probably just testing the waters. If it looks like he'll go in the top 10, he'll probably leave. If not, he'll pull his name out of the draft before the deadline.

In any event, i think he's ready for the NBA. He needs to get a bit stronger, but by his 2nd/3rd season in the NBA, I envision him being an 18 pts, 5 rebs, 6 ast type player.

Why would going in the top 10 make a difference to an NBA draftee? Difference between #10 pick's salary and #20's is $1.5 mil. over 3 years (or something like that). If it was the NFL, and millions could be made or lost depending on your draft slot, maybe it's a big deal, but there's not much to gain from delaying your FA for one year for that $1.5 mil. more.

[FlawlessVictory]

We can't get rebounds to save our lives, so let's draft a shooting guard who, to my eyes, needs another year or two in college?

I like the kid, don't get me wrong. But one season in college isn't enough for Austin. His game needs a lot of work still.
I agree with your point about Bostons need to get a few big men... but, remember they will likely have two picks in the mid teens... With that in mind, they wont be able to get any of the elite big men (Davis, Robinson etc). So they will most likely draft the best player available first (could be Rivers) and then use the second highest pick for the best available big man... Plumlee maybe?

Rondo, Bradley
Rivers
Pierce
Jeff Green
Plumlee

Re-sign Garnett and/or Allen on much cheaper deals.

Then they would have have lots of cap space to throw at people.

Decent base upon which to rebuild imo. Although, from the Celtics perspective, I really wish they had a few more first round picks for the draft this year (by trading Garnett, Allen or maybe even Pierce at the deadline).

[jb220]

How would he fit on the Cavs? Maybe they can somehow acquire a mid 1st.

[el gringos]

He will get picked 5/6 to about 16/18, you think he gets past 2 portland picks6-10 ish? UtAh could take him, a lot of teams will take them and hope he can defend the pg position or both gaurd spots.




Just don't work out with or against Jared Cunningham. This years gaurd prospects is an interesting thing, both of the 2 best played in the pac 12 which is always totally missed out on being scouted well. Wroten is considered in the middle of the 1st but Cunningham is nowhere to be found- he was the best player in half of the country and has a game that fits the nba even better than ncaa. With Gary Payton training him into an nba pg he will be the next roycE white as a guy to jump into the mix

[Lebron23]

He needs to improve his shooting. Rivers is a good athlete. He was measured at 6'5" with shoes, and weighed at 203 lbs.

[PP34Deuce]

Looking at the most likely lotto picks who I think will come out...

KY's Davis and Gilchrist
NC's Harrison Barnes and Kendall Marshall
OS Sullinger....

As far as Sg I have him after Lamb who is a bit more polished.

Rivers does have very good athletiscm, potential to be a more consistent shooter. I do think he will be automate 18-20ppg 5 and 4 player.

Certainly great pick 8-15. He won't be there if the Celtics draft later.

[jb220]

Rivers reminds me of a young MJ, unproven, with a chip on his shoulder, ****y, if he get's drafted into the right situation I can see him average 28/6/5 on 52% fg 38% 3pt, he has an unstoppable offensive game. Coach K has been known to misuse players

[RedBlackAttack]

Rivers reminds me of a young MJ
:coleman:

[jb220]

Kyrie reminds me a of a young Wilt
:coleman:

[Shepseskaf]

Rivers reminds me of a young MJ, unproven, with a chip on his shoulder, ****y, if he get's drafted into the right situation I can see him average 28/6/5 on 52% fg 38% 3pt, he has an unstoppable offensive game. Coach K has been known to misuse players
:facepalm

Troll alert.

[RedBlackAttack]

:facepalm

Troll alert.
:cheers:

I didn't even read the rest of his post after the first line. Clear trolling.

I was so easily duped. :facepalm

*walks away in shame*

[BlazersDozen]

Because Wade and Roy are good players. For every Wade, there are hundreds of players who come out of college after 4 years and continue to suck.

Key word in my post was potential. Players who continue to suck, don't have potential.

[midatlantic09]

Why would going in the top 10 make a difference to an NBA draftee? Difference between #10 pick's salary and #20's is $1.5 mil. over 3 years (or something like that). If it was the NFL, and millions could be made or lost depending on your draft slot, maybe it's a big deal, but there's not much to gain from delaying your FA for one year for that $1.5 mil. more.

*Usually more opportunities early on coming in as a top 10 pick vs a top 20 or top 25 pick (a top 10 pick is usually expected to start).

*As an NBA rookie, why piss away an extra 500k a yr?

[irondarts]

There's tons of good guards ahead of him in this draft.

Regardless, he will probably go between 15-25, with the possibility of slipping lower if he has weak workouts.

[BlazersDozen]

He wants to come out early so he can face LeBron.

[Celtic_Pride]

I'm going to guess he goes in the 15-20 range.

That would be perfect for him and his father as Celtics can draft him

[Timmy D for MVP]

why is it so hard to believe? not an incredibly strong or top heavy draft, i think the whole staying in college longer for development is overblown, you get better training facilities and coaches on the pro level and learn the pro game

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/015/orly.jpg

[GOBB]

He will be a mid-first round pick. There are SEVERAL wings in this strong draft way ahead of him. I think this is a mistake and I'm a bit surprised. Then again, he probably made this one-and-done decision a long time ago (as in, before he even chose Duke).

He was supposed to be a phenom coming out of high school. While he had a pretty nice first season, suffice to say he didn't quite live up to his billing.

I'm going to guess he goes in the 15-20 range.

He didnt fit Dukes system. Handcuffed. His game fits the NBA better because he can create his own offense with his handles and quickness. I think he's mid first rd as well. Late lottery-just outside of it. But workouts could dictate how high he could go. We also cant rule out a team liking him for his pedigree and he going higher than some expect. So while a guy like Beal may be a nice shooting prospect, he doesnt have nearly as good handles as Austin to create his own shot/offense. Should be interesting to see where he gets drafted.

[talkingconch]

Rivers reminds me of a young MJ
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/62302d94eca88c46722f3f4f29353177.gif

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I'd only want him on the Celtics if we got a good big man with our other pick. My perfect scenario is to package both our picks (#18 and #20 or something) with Avery to get a #9 or something, but I don't see anyone being dumb enough to do that in this draft.

As for his career? Jason Terry wouldn't be too far off what I see him doing.

[50inchvertical]

Why are you all surprised? Have you ever seen or read an interview of the kid? Arrogant would be a massive understatement. If it were allowed, he would go straight from high school, probably even do a Jeremy Tyler if his parents would let him.

[RedBlackAttack]

He didnt fit Dukes system. Handcuffed. His game fits the NBA better because he can create his own offense with his handles and quickness. I think he's mid first rd as well. Late lottery-just outside of it. But workouts could dictate how high he could go. We also cant rule out a team liking him for his pedigree and he going higher than some expect. So while a guy like Beal may be a nice shooting prospect, he doesnt have nearly as good handles as Austin to create his own shot/offense. Should be interesting to see where he gets drafted.
Well, he is also listed as 6-4 (I'm not so sure about that) and he doesn't make up for it with a massive wingspan like Brad Beal. He is a little slight for the 2 in the NBA. You are right in that he didn't fit Duke's system at all (terrible pick of college in terms of his game), but I'm not sure he will ever live up to his high school billing.

Once again, if I'm taking a wing in the mid-first round, I go Terrence Ross over him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. He is built for the NBA. I'm not sure Rivers is.

[RedBlackAttack]

Why are you all surprised? Have you ever seen or read an interview of the kid? Arrogant would be a massive understatement. If it were allowed, he would go straight from high school, probably even do a Jeremy Tyler if his parents would let him.
Never seen him interviewed, I don't think... And, if I did, I wasn't pay much attention. This make sense, though, since he is essentially the first "name" player to announce and he clearly had no intentions of staying in school.

A lot of guys will put on a front for a while just out of respect to their college programs and coaches. Not Rivers.

If what you say is true (and I don't doubt it), hopefully the Cavs don't even glance at him.

[PleezeBelieve]

Cavs fans hyping Beal but slighting Rivers??

Oh okay, I sense another 'I told you moment' coming real soon.

[PleezeBelieve]

Some of you dudes are putting Beal in the top 5 yet can't understand Rivers is coming out??

He's the better player, that's why.

[LoneyROY7]

Cavs fans hyping Beal but slighting Rivers??

Oh okay, I sense another 'I told you moment' coming real soon.

Beal fits the Cavs' needs much better then Rivers.

[JellyBean]

The guy is ready. Will he come in and dominate off the bat? Maybe. It depends on the team and the coach who he plays for. But he is ready. Some draft boards have him going #11 to Portland. Now I don't see him fitting in with Portland, they are guard heavy. But it depends on where he goes in the draft and the coach.

[hawkfan]

why is it so hard to believe? not an incredibly strong or top heavy draft, i think the whole staying in college longer for development is overblown, you get better training facilities and coaches on the pro level and learn the pro game

:coleman:

[Marv_Albert]

Celtics with his old man??:biggums:

[LosBulls]

He will get picked 5/6 to about 16/18, you think he gets past 2 portland picks6-10 ish? UtAh could take him, a lot of teams will take them and hope he can defend the pg position or both gaurd spots.




Just don't work out with or against Jared Cunningham. This years gaurd prospects is an interesting thing, both of the 2 best played in the pac 12 which is always totally missed out on being scouted well. Wroten is considered in the middle of the 1st but Cunningham is nowhere to be found- he was the best player in half of the country and has a game that fits the nba even better than ncaa. With Gary Payton training him into an nba pg he will be the next roycE white as a guy to jump into the mix
Funny how Terrance Williams was also considered to be very NBA-ready and trained by Gary Payton :roll:

[ILLsmak]

How can people say it's a bad move when he's going to get picked in the first round and get minutes for his new team?

It's not like he's somehow going to play out his rookie contract and fall into the D-League.

The whole 'being ready' thing is pretty stupid; what can he possibly gain from staying another year?

If he doesn't want college success and wants to be a millionaire then he should go in the draft.

-Smak

[tomtucker]

Why are you all surprised? Have you ever seen or read an interview of the kid? Arrogant would be a massive understatement. If it were allowed, he would go straight from high school, probably even do a Jeremy Tyler if his parents would let him.


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0LC3LJZWhYs/Te2Yek1g_9I/AAAAAAAAAno/_1hzt9UxM9M/s1600/Austin%2BRivers%2BTweet%2B2.jpg



you think ?

[ILLsmak]

Funny how Terrance Williams was also considered to be very NBA-ready and trained by Gary Payton :roll:

T-Will goes hard he just needs the right team. I dunno why people always want to talk shit about players then they act like they are surprised when they come through.

Just like people are still trying to talk shit about Cousins...

Edit: also lol at calling people arrogant. The truly arrogant people are the ones that pretend to be humble. Calling himself Sub Zero might be kind of lame but it's not like OMG HE'S SUCH AN ARROGANT PRICK.

-Smak

[ProfessorMurder]

Should stay another year.

[Shepseskaf]

How can people say it's a bad move when he's going to get picked in the first round and get minutes for his new team?

It's not like he's somehow going to play out his rookie contract and fall into the D-League.

The whole 'being ready' thing is pretty stupid; what can he possibly gain from staying another year?

If he doesn't want college success and wants to be a millionaire then he should go in the draft.

-Smak
:applause:

[dbk123]

Well, he is also listed as 6-4 (I'm not so sure about that) and he doesn't make up for it with a massive wingspan like Brad Beal. He is a little slight for the 2 in the NBA. You are right in that he didn't fit Duke's system at all (terrible pick of college in terms of his game), but I'm not sure he will ever live up to his high school billing.

Once again, if I'm taking a wing in the mid-first round, I go Terrence Ross over him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. He is built for the NBA. I'm not sure Rivers is.


hes 6'5 in shoes and has a longer wingspan than beal.

[veilside23]

i dont know why people takes into account wingspan .. really to be honest wingspan is sH!t if the one who possess it is dumb...

beal maybe the better shooter but rivers can create his own shot..

i guess there is nothing wrong in going pro... monta ellis jump straight out of highschool .... not saying rivers is like monta but kinda like it somehow but if
this kid is a workhorse wont be surprise if he can be a superstar... Its really hard to see the "natural SG" with 6"6 these days.... last one that i can think of is Dwade .. he isnt even 6"6 ...

[LosBulls]

T-Will goes hard he just needs the right team. I dunno why people always want to talk shit about players then they act like they are surprised when they come through.

Just like people are still trying to talk shit about Cousins...

Edit: also lol at calling people arrogant. The truly arrogant people are the ones that pretend to be humble. Calling himself Sub Zero might be kind of lame but it's not like OMG HE'S SUCH AN ARROGANT PRICK.

-Smak
Man calm that shit. Terrance Williams is a beast but u tryna deny the fact that he ****ed himself and now he struggling to be in the NBA.

All I meant was that it don't matter if Gary Payton train u, u can still end up like Terrance Williams. And ain't nobody talking shit, I'm stating facts.

[Kevin_Gamble]

*Usually more opportunities early on coming in as a top 10 pick vs a top 20 or top 25 pick (a top 10 pick is usually expected to start).


Yeah but that's because a top 10 pick is usually going to a really bad team. Rivers probably will be better off coming off the bench, getting in the NBA game slowly, for a good team.



*As an NBA rookie, why piss away an extra 500k a yr?
[/quote]

Because you can become FA one year earlier by coming out now, instead of wasting a year in college under Coach K., who is, by the way, not really famous for developing NBA level players.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

tweener, until he proves otherwise.
For a SG, its one thing to be 6'4".... its another to be 6'4" and scrawny....i.e. he ain't DWade.
He's gonna need to get much stronger if he is going to defend legit SGs

[Fiasco]

tweener, until he proves otherwise.
For a SG, its one thing to be 6'4".... its another to be 6'4" and scrawny....i.e. he ain't DWade.
He's gonna need to get much stronger if he is going to defend legit SGs

The only thing separating Austin Rivers and Dwyane Wade is a daily dose of HGH, my friend.

[Lebron23]

i dont know why people takes into account wingspan .. really to be honest wingspan is sH!t if the one who possess it is dumb...

beal maybe the better shooter but rivers can create his own shot..

i guess there is nothing wrong in going pro... monta ellis jump straight out of highschool .... not saying rivers is like monta but kinda like it somehow but if
this kid is a workhorse wont be surprise if he can be a superstar... Its really hard to see the "natural SG" with 6"6 these days.... last one that i can think of is Dwade .. he isnt even 6"6 ...


Wade is 6'5" in shoes. He's only an inch shorter than Kobe. Wade is not an undersized SG.

[CelticBaller]

So the Celtics are on the clock, Rivers hasn't been picked, what do you do?
get a big man. having him being coached by his dad would get one of them out of boston

[50inchvertical]

hes 6'5 in shoes and has a longer wingspan than beal.
He's more 6'2 than 6'5.

[Qwyjibo]

Surprising move. I really thought Rivers would stay one more year then leave.

Being the son of an NBA coach, I'm sure he has good sources to go with to get a feel for where he is projected. I can't see him slipping past the late lottery (11-14) and with good workouts, he can definitely work his way into the top 10. Can't argue with the decision if it ends up being that way regardless of who well off his family is.

His shooting %'s weren't anything great across the board but I watched a ton of Duke games and Rivers was basically always the "oh shit, shot clock is counting down, do something!" guy for the team. Curry and Dawkins are very good spot-up shooters but don't expect them to be creating much for themselves or their teammates. Plumlee is also very robotic when it comes to creating for himself in the post. He was the one good playmaker on the team and he'd benefit from playing with an actual PG.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Lakers should snag him some how and send him to the D-league for 3 years.

[heyhey]

:coleman: are you serious?

My point was that most of the players don't seem nba ready, I only watch duke games and the tournament so maybe I'm wrong. But I don't see how Barnes, Drummond, sullinger are suppose to make impact right away. Davis is the only sure thing IMO

[KobeRules24]

he's gonna be better than his dad at best. this kid is not ready for the NBA just yet. bad bad decision

[PP34Deuce]

he's gonna be better than his dad at best. this kid is not ready for the NBA just yet. bad bad decision

He is ready. He has an NBA game.

I look at his frame and I see a guy that can put on 10-15 more pounds of muscle and still be more than athletic enough. He's a natural scorer who as a rookie will easily score 14-17ppg with maybe 4 rebounds and 4 assists.

Hes not a game changer, but I think he will b another very good combo guard in the league

[Stern]

I dont like his jumper, he needs to put a lot of work on it.

[JMT]

Because you can become FA one year earlier by coming out now, instead of wasting a year in college under Coach K., who is, by the way, not really famous for developing NBA level players.

Duke has either the most players currently in the NBA of any school or the second most.

[50inchvertical]

His form on his jumper is nasty and his release is kind of slow really. I expect him to have a Jimmer like rookie yr, where he comes in high pick and more heralded but gets beat out by someone who works harder and is better along with being more humble.

[midatlantic09]

His form on his jumper is nasty and his release is kind of slow really. I expect him to have a Jimmer like rookie yr, where he comes in high pick and more heralded but gets beat out by someone who works harder and is better along with being more humble.

That's what YOU want to happen, but I highly doubt that will happen. Jimmer hasn't done well in the NBA because he's really a 2G in a PG's body, can't create his own shot, has very limited ball handling skills, and lacks athleticism. None of the aforementioned pertain to Rivers.

[JustinJDW]

Kid should have stayed in school for at least one more year. He's not NBA ready. Needs to bulk up too. What does Coach K tell these kids? He may just be testing the waters now to see where he'll get picked, but if he really does come out, I really don't see him doing much for three or four years.

[senelcoolidge]

future NBA scrub. He's either going to flop fast or suck for a few years and than become a decent guard.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

another JJ Redick?

[Meticode]

Coach K is probably happy about this because Rivers doesn't play within the offense anyway. He plays too much one-on-one which isn't Duke's flow of the offense anyway.

[wakencdukest]

another JJ Redick?


Naw, he can't shoot like Redick. What he can do is create off the dribble which Redick can't, but he might have trouble doing that at the next level against more athletic 2 guards that will be guarding him.

[Meticode]

another JJ Redick?
Serious? Redick was a shooter and nothing else. :D

[GOBB]

Naw, he can't shoot like Redick. What he can do is create off the dribble which Redick can't, but he might have trouble doing that at the next level against more athletic 2 guards that will be guarding him.

No he wont.

[wakencdukest]

No he wont.

I said might. It remains to be seen.

[TeamLAC]

No he wont.
:facepalm :oldlol:

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Not the best idea. He doesn't really need the money that bad, and the lottery teams going for him aren't great franchises. Stay in Duke.

[TAZORAC]

Anybody who's never seen Rivers play, he's like Derrick Rose without the strength, but a better jump shot.

He's better then Marquise Daniels

[irondarts]

Cavs fans hyping Beal but slighting Rivers??

Oh okay, I sense another 'I told you moment' coming real soon.
Like you told us how Kyrie Irving was going to be a bust ? ?

[Whoah10115]

Oh okay, I sense another 'I told you moment' coming real soon.





From you? :roll:

[Kujo]

Not the best idea. He doesn't really need the money that bad, and the lottery teams going for him aren't great franchises. Stay in Duke.

His fam's got millions. I could have benefited from staying another, but like many have said, he didn't fit Duke's system at all. He probably should have gone to Kentucky.

I'm not surprised he's one, and done at all. I expected it. You do kinda hope Doc encouraged him to stay in school, but there was probably no changing his mind.

He might have the quickest first step of any player in the draft. I don't think he'll fall out of the 10-13 range. He could end up in the top 10.

[EnoughSaid]

Why? It's not like he needs to make money for his family right away. It's not like he doesn't have a family involved with basketball. STAY FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE YEAR. :(

[dbk123]

sorta off topic but is michael kidd gilchrist even eligible for this years draft? he'll still be 18 by the time of the draft and if i recall, you have to be 19 to be drafted.

[ralph_i_el]

In college, you learn how to dominate the basics of the game & do more than just rely on your natural talent. Why do you think guys with potemtial and stay shoot up to the top of the nba so quick like Wade & Roy did?

Theres obviously guys who don't need to stay but Rivers does need to stay. Hes still to raw.

They shoot up so quick because they're older :facepalm

it's not fair to compare a 19 year old rookie to a 22 year old rookie.

[bdreason]

sorta off topic but is michael kidd gilchrist even eligible for this years draft? he'll still be 18 by the time of the draft and if i recall, you have to be 19 to be drafted.


I think you only need to turn 19 in the same calender year as the draft. I could be wrong on that though.

[(e)]

I think you only need to turn 19 in the same calender year as the draft. I could be wrong on that though.
This.

Have to turn 19 the same calendar year.
Have to be 1 year removed from HS.

[Lebron23]

another JJ Redick?


Redick was a better scorer, and shooter than Rivers in College.

[ralph_i_el]

Redick was a better scorer, and shooter than Rivers in College.
as a freshman?
They look pretty comparable to me at that age in terms of production.

plus rivers has better handles and is more athletic

[Punpun]

He is intelligent. He won't be drafted by the Hornets or some shitty team because he won't be a huge prospect. So he will prolly be drafted ina okay team that will help him develop and play more enjoyable Bball.

[SwooshReturns]

Anybody who's never seen Rivers play, he's like Derrick Rose without the strength, but a better jump shot.
:biggums:

We are talking about Austin Rivers, right?

Guy's jumper is hideously deformed.

D. Rose has been a good shooter since his sophmore year.

[FlawlessVictory]

He is intelligent. He won't be drafted by the Hornets or some shitty team because he won't be a huge prospect. So he will prolly be drafted ina okay team that will help him develop and play more enjoyable Bball.

This point really doesn't get as much focus as it should...

I seriously think Doc and those close to him probably looked at the draft this year and realized he wasn't going to go top 12 or so and then advised him it would be a good time to declare .. He will almost certainly be picked up by a team with a lot of talent already on the roster and could be going deep in the playoffs come this time next year instead of playing out 3-4 years with a garbage organisation like the Hornets or Sac Kings.

Whether he will be a success in the NBA; no clue to be honest, it is practically impossible to predict how he will fare imo. He has the talent to be a big success, but there are also enough question marks surrounding him to make it understandable that he will most likely not go top 12 in this years draft.

[ProfessorMurder]

D. Rose has been a good shooter since his sophmore year.

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