10 years ago the Spurs, Mavs, Lakers were top 4 West Seeds

[eliteballer]

...and they are 10 years later too. Amazing:applause:

[Stern]

:applause:

[Legends66NBA7]

And in those 10 years, all 3 teams have combined to win 8 NBA Championships.

:applause:

[miles berg]

And in those 10 years, all 3 teams have combined to win 8 NBA Championships.

:applause:

Would have been 9 had the refs not been paid off in 2006...

[KOBEtherealKing]

And guess who were the champs 10 years ago. :D :rockon:

[Alamo]

The San Antonio Spurs are the definition of consistency.

[Scholar]

Lakers and Spurs have been the greatest dynasty since the Bulls' run ended in 1998. Nobody can **** with these guys.

[linZoMourning]

In the last 11 years spurs have the title of most winningest franchise in all sports. They have made playoffs every single one those years . Can you say the same about the other teams listed? I think not

[SpecialQue]

Spurs are the 3rd greatest NBA franchise of all time, behind the Lakers and Celtics. So good for so long, and I ain't even a fan.

[Alamo]

Spurs are the 3rd greatest NBA franchise of all time, behind the Lakers and Celtics. So good for so long, and I ain't even a fan.

And they aren't done yet :pimp:

[SpecialQue]

And they aren't done yet :pimp:

I'll admit that I'd like to see Duncan get another ring before retiring. Preferably by spanking Lebron & company again. Think your boys can pull off another sweep?

[RaininTwos]

Spurs are the 3rd greatest NBA franchise of all time, behind the Lakers and Celtics. So good for so long, and I ain't even a fan.
Why do people keep saying stuff like this?

[SpecialQue]

Why do people keep saying stuff like this?

Who's #3? The fvcking Bulls? Yeah, tell me how great that franchise was when Jordan wasn't on the team.

[eliteballer]

Sixers are the 3rd greatest

[RaininTwos]

Sixers are the 3rd greatest
This.

[Alamo]

I'll admit that I'd like to see Duncan get another ring before retiring. Preferably by spanking Lebron & company again. Think your boys can pull off another sweep?

Lol No one should count the spurs out in the playoffs this year.

[Alamo]

3rd greatest NBA franchise :cheers:


http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt342/Itsehu/big3.jpg

[Wonder Bread Kid]

Sixers are the 3rd greatest

Explain...

[Stern]

Agreed that sixers are third greatest franchise.

[jbryan1984]

And in those 10 years, all 3 teams have combined to win 8 NBA Championships.

:applause:



And 10 years later, all 3 of those teams still have their franchise player.

[Deuce Bigalow]

In the last 11 years spurs have the title of most winningest franchise in all sports. They have made playoffs every single one those years . Can you say the same about the other teams listed? I think not
'99 to present

Lakers - 5 Titles, 7 Finals
Spurs - 4 Titles, 4 Finals

[kenny817]

'99 to present

Lakers - 5 Titles, 7 Finals
Spurs - 4 Titles, 4 Finals

He means winning percentage...and he's right.

Lakers have more rings but Spurs have a higher win percentage. That's what he was referring to

[amfirst]

Winning Championships or the war is more important than winning useless battles.

[JustinJDW]

Winning Championships or the war is more important than winning useless battles.Agreed. But the consistency of those Championships, speak volumes, especially when its the difference of one.

This is why I completely understand when people say the Spurs are the team of the decade, and not the Lakers. Its incredibly difficult to call a club the team of the decade, when at one point in that decade, they didn't even make the Playoffs, while the Spurs never missed. Especially, when that season is right in the smacking middle of that said decade, 2005. And when you see that in that season that they didn't make the Playoffs, the San Antonio Spurs actually won the Championship, its almost like its all the confirmation you need. Talk about a King versus Peasant season. Right in the middle too. Right in the middle...

[G-Funk]

And they didn't have to built a super team to do it

[G-Funk]

And they didn't have to built a super team to do it:lebroncry:

[linZoMourning]

'99 to present

Lakers - 5 Titles, 7 Finals
Spurs - 4 Titles, 4 Finals

lakers also missed the playoffs and dont have a better winning percentage then the spurs.

[LBJMVP]

Who's #3? The fvcking Bulls? Yeah, tell me how great that franchise was when Jordan wasn't on the team.

weren't the spurs a joke of a team before this decade?

[ihatetimthomas]

Who's #3? The fvcking Bulls? Yeah, tell me how great that franchise was when Jordan wasn't on the team.

Same can be said about Timmy D

[DirtySanchez]

Lakers tries with Payton n Malone and failed......but those guy where past primes

[Deuce Bigalow]

lakers also missed the playoffs and dont have a better winning percentage then the spurs.
missed the playoffs once.
Won a dozen more playoff games, more titles, more western conference championships. Who cares about a couple of more regular season wins?

It's the Lakers ..gap.... Spurs ...gap.. everyone else

[chazzy]

http://www.nba.com/lakers/photos/110330kobe_dirk_duncan300.jpg

[G-Funk]

http://www.nba.com/lakers/photos/110330kobe_dirk_duncan300.jpg

:bowdown:
Imagine if this guys teamed up like bitches. they would have owned the NBA

[talkingconch]

Lemme get this straight. NOT to discredit the Spurs or anything, they've been one HELL of a franchise the past 13 years, but theres actually posters in this thread saying that because the Spurs have a better winning percentage, they are the team of the decade? So now teams should just start competing for winning percentages instead of championships?

[LoneyROY7]

http://www.nba.com/lakers/photos/110330kobe_dirk_duncan300.jpg

Ahhh, the days of baggy pants.

[Myth]

:bowdown:
Imagine if this guys teamed up like bitches. they would have owned the NBA

Not 2, Not 3, Not 4.....

[linZoMourning]

Lemme get this straight. NOT to discredit the Spurs or anything, they've been one HELL of a franchise the past 13 years, but theres actually posters in this thread saying that because the Spurs have a better winning percentage, they are the team of the decade? So now teams should just start competing for winning percentages instead of championships?

its common knowledge spurs are team of the decade. there was a big thread about it awhile back

[Odinn]

Lemme get this straight. NOT to discredit the Spurs or anything, they've been one HELL of a franchise the past 13 years, but theres actually posters in this thread saying that because the Spurs have a better winning percentage, they are the team of the decade? So now teams should just start competing for winning percentages instead of championships?
Let's see...

2000-09 span;
Spurs 576-244 in rs. (1st)
Lakers 530-290 in rs. (3rd)

Spurs went to the Finals 3 times and won all of them. Only one time had first-round exit.
Lakers went to the Finals 6 times and won 4 of them. Missed playoffs once and had first-round exit twice.

Both team have a serious cases to be called the team of 2000's.


Here are the records of Duncan('99-'07) and Kobe('01-'10) in their prime;

Spurs 481-183 .724 in rs.
Spurs 87-42 .674 in po.
Spurs 568-225 .716 combined.
Spurs went to the Finals 4 times.
Spurs won it all 4 times.

Lakers 484-271 .641 in rs.
Lakers 99-49 .669 in po.
Lakers 583-320 .646 combined.
Lakers went to the Finals 6 times.
Lakers won it all 4 times.

Duncan has the same amount of rings and final mvps with Shaq, one more mvp. Shaq has more mvp shares than TD with a small difference.
Duncan has one more fmvp and one mvp than Kobe, Kobe has one more ring.

Maybe you don't say Duncan is the best or greatest player of his generation but he is the most successful one. And also it can be said for his team.

[Deuce Bigalow]

its common knowledge spurs are team of the decade. there was a big thread about it awhile back
okay think that

4>3. Fact.

[SevereUpInHere]

Let's see...

2000-09 span;
Spurs 576-244 in rs. (1st)
Lakers 530-290 in rs. (3rd)

Spurs went to the Finals 3 times and won all of them. Only one time had first-round exit.
Lakers went to the Finals 6 times and won 4 of them. Missed playoffs once and had first-round exit twice.

Both team have a serious cases to be called the team of 2000's.


Here are the records of Duncan('99-'07) and Kobe('01-'10) in their prime;

Spurs 481-183 .724 in rs.
Spurs 87-42 .674 in po.
Spurs 568-225 .716 combined.
Spurs went to the Finals 4 times.
Spurs won it all 4 times.

Lakers 484-271 .641 in rs.
Lakers 99-49 .669 in po.
Lakers 583-320 .646 combined.
Lakers went to the Finals 6 times.
Lakers won it all 4 times.

Duncan has the same amount of rings and final mvps with Shaq, one more mvp. Shaq has more mvp shares than TD with a small difference.
Duncan has one more fmvp and one mvp than Kobe, Kobe has one more ring.

Maybe you don't say Duncan is the best or greatest player of his generation but he is the most successful one. And also it can be said for his team.


Good post, but the Lakers have beat the Spurs in series 01, 02, 04 and 08. Spurs only beat LA once in 03 (twice if we are including 99) I think for that reason you've gotta give the edge to LA.

[D-Wade316]

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Would have been 9 had the refs not been paid off in 2006...
Let's not get into this.

[R.I.P.]

:bowdown:
Imagine if this guys teamed up like bitches. they would have owned the NBA

Yeah they would have really won eight championships together. :oldlol:

I think people always underestimate how much more crafty and professional these guys are than this new bunch of superstars, who rely on athletism and the soft touchy feely rules. That

[Punpun]

:bowdown:
Imagine if this guys teamed up like bitches. they would have owned the NBA

Oh my. Forever peat. It'd be like the Lakers of now but with massive upgrade and being even more beastly. God this would have been beautiful to witness.

[Brunch@Five]

Duncan, Kobe + Dirk = Hakeem, Jordan, Malone of our generation.

[SacJB Shady]

It feels like Dejavu. Every single year for like the last 6 years I keep asking myself when are these guys gonna get old and just fall out? I have been telling myself every year this is it for the spurs. And there just always seems to be one more year. Same with Kobe. People were saying he's done and he just won't go away. Look at the Mavs, their old a$$es winning that title last year.

[JohnnySic]

Spurs would likely have won 5 straight titles '03 - '07 if not for a lucky Derek Fisher shot in '04 and silly phantom foul on Dirk in '06.

[R.I.P.]

Spurs would likely have won 5 straight titles '03 - '07 if not for a lucky Derek Fisher shot in '04 and silly phantom foul on Dirk in '06.

Yeah or one if Dirk doesn

[vegasbigshots]

Sixers are the 3rd greatest

:rolleyes: Number 3 - can be Spurs, Bulls, Sixers or Pistons

[Thorn]

Spurs would likely have won 5 straight titles '03 - '07 if not for a lucky Derek Fisher shot in '04 and silly phantom foul on Dirk in '06.

Or Duncan could have missed his own lucky shot after Kobe made his in 04 or the Mavs could not have blown a 3-1 lead earlier (Bowen blocks Dirk at the buzzer G5, Terry suspension G6) Aren't hypotheticals fun?

[vinsane01]

Spurs would likely have won 5 straight titles '03 - '07 if not for a lucky Derek Fisher shot in '04 and silly phantom foul on Dirk in '06.

Im still too upset over the 0.4 shot that i cant even force myself to review the shot's legitimacy. Some say what seem to be lot of shooting action compressed in a mere 0.4 second materialized because the clock started too late. Fact is the spurs lost that series 4 games to 2. Even if fisher's shot didnt count they still need another game to win the series, we wouldnt know otherwise. Plus the pistons won that year.

And if im not mistaken you are talking about ginobili fouling dirk in game 7 of 06. I seem to remember that being a foul, although a type of foul that in my opinion shouldnt have been called in a very important game where everyone is being physical. It's a ticky tack foul, but a foul nonetheless.

Your point still stand though. The spurs where thaaat close into winning 5 straight rings.

[Brunch@Five]

It was a stupid foul by Ginobili, not a phantom/ticky-tacky foul. He clearly hit him on the wrist. Simply a bone-headed move by Manu, being up 3.

[Balla_Status]

http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/0605/nba_a_nowitzki_430.jpg

Obviously a phantom foul.

[Flamboyant]

It's a 13 year domination actually. In this period no other team came out of West. 10 titles and 13 finals. :bowdown:

http://www.nba.com/lakers/photos/110330kobe_dirk_duncan300.jpg
Not surprisingly these 3 are the players with longest active streaks playing for a single team throughout their careers.

[Unstop]

true stars

[VishaltotheG]

Who's #3? The fvcking Bulls? Yeah, tell me how great that franchise was when Jordan wasn't on the team.

Tell me how great the Spurs franchise was when Duncan wasn't on the team. Yeah I thought so.

[Kblaze8855]

Who's #3? The fvcking Bulls? Yeah, tell me how great that franchise was when Jordan wasn't on the team.


The Spurs have done nothing without Duncan the Bulls didnt do without Jordan. At least 3 conference finals without Jordan(last year and a couple in the 70s when they were in the west). At least 4 55 win seasons(not counting this year during which they are on a 65 win pace for a regular year).

Gervins Spurs made the conference finals twice off the top of my head and Drob made it in 95. They never won that many games though. Id be surprised if they had an elite team(55 or more wins I think is fair) record wise before Drobs brief stretch.

End of the year the Bulls will have more great seasons without Jordan than the Spurs do without Duncan. Neither made the finals. Both had the best record in the league once I think(95 for the spurs last year for the Bulls). And considering the 6 rings?

Its not hard to see why one might put the Bulls over the Spurs. I dont think I would. The spurs have almost always been decent to great.

But the "What have they done without ____" argument isnt one the Spurs really have in their pocket. They were 20 years of playoff letdowns before Duncan.

[Odinn]

Spurs would likely have won 5 straight titles '03 - '07 if not for a lucky Derek Fisher shot in '04 and silly phantom foul on Dirk in '06.
That wasn't a phantom foul. It was all Ginobili's fault.

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Yeah or one if Dirk doesn

[DMAVS41]

That wasn't a phantom foul. It was all Ginobili's fault.


2007 highly debatable but in 2003 playoffs when Dirk healthy Spurs led the series 2-1 and Duncan owned Nowitzki.

Duncan was definitely the best player in that series, but if Dirk doesn't get hurt the Mavs would have had a great chance to win the series. It most likely would have gone 7 and it would have been a toss up.

Dirk was more than capable of going off on the Spurs and Duncan. As he did in game 1 with 38 points and 15 boards.

To act like the 03 series was a lock for the Spurs with a healthy Dirk is absurd.

[Balla_Status]

That wasn't a phantom foul. It was all Ginobili's fault.


2007 highly debatable but in 2003 playoffs when Dirk healthy Spurs led the series 2-1 and Duncan owned Nowitzki.

Heat led the mavs last year 2-1.

[Odinn]

Heat led the mavs last year 2-1.
35.3/18.0/6.0/3.3/1.0 on .617 fg. Duncan completely dominated the Mavs and Dirk. It wasn't like last finals. In 2003 playoffs, you can't bet against Duncan. If you want to talk what ifs, people should talk about 2003 Kings. Not Nowitzki's injury.

[DMAVS41]

35.3/18.0/6.0/3.3/1.0 on .617 fg. Duncan completely dominated the Mavs and Dirk. It wasn't like last finals. In 2003 playoffs, you can't bet against Duncan. If you want to talk what ifs, people should talk about 2003 Kings. Not Nowitzki's injury.

Who would ever debate Duncan not being clearly the best player in that series? But you are jumping to conclusions if you think that means the Spurs win for sure.

The Spurs won game 4 by 7 points against the Mavs without Dirk. The Mavs won game 5...and then the Spurs won game 6...Do you even remember game 6? The game in which the Mavs blew like a 20 point 2nd half lead or something.

It would have gone 7 almost for sure and the Spurs would have been slight favorites to win that game 7. If Dirk was healthy in game 7...I like the Mavs chances. Considering he's never lost a game 7...5-0 for his career.

[Odinn]

Who would ever debate Duncan not being clearly the best player in that series? But you are jumping to conclusions if you think that means the Spurs win for sure.

The Spurs won game 4 by 7 points against the Mavs without Dirk. The Mavs won game 5...and then the Spurs won game 6...Do you even remember game 6? The game in which the Mavs blew like a 20 point 2nd half lead or something.

It would have gone 7 almost for sure and the Spurs would have been slight favorites to win that game 7. If Dirk was healthy in game 7...I like the Mavs chances. Considering he's never lost a game 7...5-0 for his career.
I'm not completely saying if Dirk stayed healthy, Spurs still win for sure but playoffs not regular season. Injuries pretty interesting in the playoffs. In 2009 playoffs, the Rockets were 1-2 with Yao against the Lakers and were 2-2 without Yao. The Grizzlies defeated the Spurs without R. Gay in last playoffs.

Injuries shouldn't be talked imo. Because coaches change their entire plans when their best player injured and can keep wins. It's not like MVP race.

[TimmyDuncan]

weren't the spurs a joke of a team before this decade?

Spurs missed the playoff 4 times in 35 years.
Yeah a joke of a team before this decade :rolleyes:

[DMAVS41]

I'm not completely saying if Dirk stayed healthy, Spurs still win for sure but playoffs not regular season. Injuries pretty interesting in the playoffs. In 2009 playoffs, the Rockets were 1-2 with Yao against the Lakers and were 2-2 without Yao. The Grizzlies defeated the Spurs without R. Gay in last playoffs.

Injuries shouldn't be talked imo. Because coaches change their entire plans when their best player injured and can keep wins. It's not like MVP race.

Well, when your best player goes down in game 3 of a tight WCF....I think it deserves to be mentioned.

Its not like people (at least i'm not) that Spurs didn't deserve to win or something. I was just pointing out that even without Dirk the series still almost went 7 (damn you Kerr...damn you).

And while coaches do change things up obviously and a series takes on a different life so to speak....the difference between Dirk playing 40 mpg and Walt Williams playing his minutes is huge.

You know I love Duncan. Even as a Mavs fan watching him hurt us all these years...I love him. One of my favorite players ever and still to this day remains hugely under-rated both all time and right now.

However, I really do think the Mavs had a great chance to win that series. I think it goes 7 for sure with Dirk and its 50/50 who wins. But that is how some careers/franchises go...but make no mistake, the Mavs had a legit shot to win the title in 03.

[Dbrog]

Spurs missed the playoff 4 times in 35 years.
Yeah a joke of a team before this decade :rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure you just ended this thread. Still though, I find it hilarious how bad people think the Spurs were pre-Duncan. They had more deep playoff runs than almost every team in the NBA. Not to mention, as far as the Robinson years were concerned, it wasn't uncommon for them to win 55+ games (despite the playoff letdowns..but then again, who had success while Jordan was dominating?). Spurs are easily the 3rd best franchise in the NBA history and I don't even know how that is arguable. There were only four years, yes FOUR, in which the Spurs were awful. I mean, what other team can say that?