Lakers with another Pau Gasol-esque steal

[Flagrant 2]

Luke Walton for Ramon Sessions. :roll: :roll: :roll: Ramon's first start with the Lakers and gets a double double:



36 Minutes
20 Points (6-10 FG, 2-3 3P, 6-8 FT)
11 Assists
6 Rebounds
1 Steal
3 turnovers


http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2012/0317/los_120317_sessionssound.jpg


Class in Session! :bowdown:

[konex]

:bowdown:

[SMoKe0uT]

Say hello to the bad guy.

[KeyNote]

Kobe & Pau both with off shooting nights..still win

#SessionsEffect

[Godzuki]

top 5 PG in the league in a year

[BallsOut]

And Ramon's most impressive stat tonight? World Peace 6-8 shooting due in large part to Ramon's dribble penetration.

GAWDmon making World Peace look like Ron Artest :bowdown:

[LBJMVP]

that wasn't a steal at all. cleveland got exactly what we wanted? we have the lakers pick this year and pretty much the lakers pick next year....

two first round picks for a guy that wasn't signing with cleveland at the end of the season. lakers fans are really stupid.

[Mr. Jabbar]

I was gonna make the same thread :oldlol:

Anyway it was luke AND a 1st rnd pick if I'm not mistaken.

Sessions be ballin nonetheless, jack N had some talk with him after the game, wonder what he told him, we could caption that...

[BallsOut]

that wasn't a steal at all. cleveland got exactly what we wanted? we have the lakers pick this year and pretty much the lakers pick next year....

two first round picks for a guy that wasn't signing with cleveland at the end of the season. lakers fans are really stupid.

Lakers only gave the Cavs one 1st round pick dumbass.

[SMoKe0uT]

that wasn't a steal at all. cleveland got exactly what we wanted? we have the lakers pick this year and pretty much the lakers pick next year....

two first round picks for a guy that wasn't signing with cleveland at the end of the season. lakers fans are really stupid.

LoL @ 22-30th pick.

[LBJMVP]

Lakers only gave the Cavs one 1st round pick dumbass.


no, we have the option to switch our 2013 maimi pick with the lakers 2013 first round pick.... so we are practically getting the lakers first round pick next year dumbass.

should be a low 20 pick next season too with kobe another year older. hopefully he keeps chucking up next year

cleveland really got a steal with this trade. two first rounders for a guy that was leaving cleveland next year :bowdown:

[Whoah10115]

They traded a 1st round pick for him. Luke Walton was traded for the guy whose name I don't know. And that contract expires in a year and does good for Cleveland.




Ramon Sessions would have been available to anyone for a 1st round pick. But no one else was looking.

[RoseCity07]

You underestimate how bad Portland's defense is. Yet, this trade was a homrun either way. Anything for Walton is a win. Sessions is a good point guard.

[LBJMVP]

LoL @ 22-30th pick.

nice job editing out the bolded 1 pick you had in your orginal post after i proved your wrong

[Doctor Rivers]

cleveland really got a steal with this trade.

:roll:

[Mr. Jabbar]

You underestimate how bad Portland's defense is. Yet, this trade was a homrun either way. Anything for Walton is a win. Sessions is a good point guard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiyc0oPbBWg

[Flagrant 2]

that wasn't a steal at all. cleveland got exactly what we wanted? we have the lakers pick this year and pretty much the lakers pick next year....

two first round picks for a guy that wasn't signing with cleveland at the end of the season. lakers fans are really stupid.
Best time to use this picture:

http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/KOBE%20UMAD.jpg

[Doctor Rivers]

nice job editing out the bolded 1 pick you had in your orginal post after i proved your wrong

you're

[qrich]

Lakers only gave the Cavs one 1st round pick dumbass.

One pick + the option to swap picks next year (Cle also owns Miamis) so its essentially moving up a handful of spots next year along with this years pick.

Also to compare Sessions to Gasol is a joke, in any way.

[LBJMVP]

:roll:

2 first rounders for a guy we didnt really need on our team, who wasn't coming back next year?

i was being sarcastic because of the original title of the thread. but it was a great trade for cleveland and a great trade for LA

[SMoKe0uT]

nice job editing out the bolded 1 pick you had in your orginal post after i proved your wrong

u mad

[BallsOut]

no, we have the option to switch our 2013 maimi pick with the lakers 2013 first round pick.... so we are practically getting the lakers first round pick next year dumbass.

should be a low 20 pick next season too with kobe another year older. hopefully he keeps chucking up next year

cleveland really got a steal with this trade. two first rounders for a guy that was leaving cleveland next year :bowdown:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

That still leaves the Lakers with a 1st round pick. You'd be getting the pick from Miami, not the Lakers dumbass.

[RazorBaLade]

so does this mean luke walton is going to become as good as marc gasol?

[Flagrant 2]

so does this mean luke walton is going to become as good as marc gasol?
:lol

[LBJMVP]

you're

i seriously dont care. ISH isnt a grammar school and taking time to put apostophes in my post on an NBA forum isn't efficent. i save around 5 minutes a year by not putting apostrophes :D

[LBJMVP]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

That still leaves the Lakers with a 1st round pick. You'd be getting the pick from Miami, not the Lakers dumbass.

no we are gonna get the lakers pick next year.
LMAO if you think they will have a record even close to Miami's.

lakers could be 5th or 6th in the west next year

[Mr. Jabbar]

no we are gonna get the lakers pick next year.
LMAO if you think they will have a record even close to Miami's.

lakers could be 5th or 6th in the west next year

:kobe:

[BallsOut]

no we are gonna get the lakers pick next year.
LMAO if you think they will have a record even close to Miami's.

lakers could be 5th or 6th in the west next year

Didn't Gilbert say he'd do anything to stop Miami from winning a championship? Why would the Cavs help Miami? :facepalm

[LBJMVP]

:kobe:


OKC
memphis
dallas
clippers
utah
san antonio

who knows what could happen out west... i didn' say the will be 5th or 6th, but they very well could be. one thing is for sure, they will not have a better record then miami.

[nba_55]

Didn't Gilbert say he'd do anything to stop Miami from winning a championship? Why would the Cavs help Miami? :facepalm
:biggums:
Someone is lost!:hammerhead:

[LBJMVP]

Didn't Gilbert say he'd do anything to stop Miami from winning a championship? Why would the Cavs help Miami? :facepalm


you are a very very stupid person...

we have the right to miami's 2013 pick. so when the lakers record is not as good as maimi's and LA has a higher pick we will swap the picks. LA gets miami's 2013 pick and we get LA's.

[Mr. Jabbar]

OKC
memphis
dallas
clippers
utah
san antonio

who knows what could happen out west... i didn' say the will be 5th or 6th, but they very well could be. one thing is for sure, they will not have a better record then miami.

Lakers will be in a better position to win it all next year rather than thise one. true story.

[nba_55]

Lakers will be in a better position to win it all next year rather than thise one. true story.
Yeah right! with kobe and gasol getting older:coleman:

[LBJMVP]

Lakers will be in a better position to win it all next year rather than thise one. true story.

they very well could be, but draft picks are based on regular season records and i don't see them have an outstanding record.

[BallsOut]

you are a very very stupid person...

we have the right to miami's 2013 pick. so when the lakers record is not as good as maimi's and LA has a higher pick we will swap the picks. LA gets miami's 2013 pick and we get LA's.

Exactly. That means the Lakers still retain a 1st round pick, even if its a few spots lower. :oldlol:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Ramon is a beast :applause:

[LBJMVP]

Exactly. That means the Lakers still retain a 1st round pick, even if its a few spots lower. :oldlol:


so we got one free pick and pick that puts us in a better position then before for a player that we didn't really need and was leaving at the end of the season.

Great trade for both team.

[BallsOut]

so we got one free pick and pick that puts us in a better position then before for a player that we didn't really need and was leaving at the end of the season.

Great trade for both team.

Agree. But you did make it sound as though the Lakers traded 2 1st round picks for Sessions when they're really only losing just one.

[LBJMVP]

Agree. But you did make it sound as though the Lakers traded 2 1st round picks for Sessions when they're really only losing just one.


technically, yes they loose 1

but we pretty much got 2 of the lakers pick (the 2013 one will probly be 23-26 range. and if we kept the heat pick we could have been stuck with a 28-30. sometimes that makes a difference.

[G-Funk]

:oldlol: At fan bases that value late draft picks, that's why they always suck, while teams like the Lakers dump their trash with a pick that will never pan out for diamonds in the rough

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

that wasn't a steal at all. cleveland got exactly what we wanted? we have the lakers pick this year and pretty much the lakers pick next year....

two first round picks for a guy that wasn't signing with cleveland at the end of the season. lakers fans are really stupid.

how stupid are you? they got this year coming year draft but the lakers got rid of 6.2. so thats 12.4 in luxury tax.

The first rounder would cost them atleast 2-3million and in luxury tax they will pay 5mil so thats total of 17million savings.

They also got rid of kapono which is around 2mil of luxury tax.....

The 2nd 1st round is a trade with Miami heat......If lakers have a better record than Heat...Cavs get to keep the pick....so its 28-29th pick...either way

[LBJMVP]

how stupid are you? they got this year coming year draft but the lakers got rid of 6.2. so thats 12.4 in luxury tax.

The first rounder would cost them atleast 2-3million and in luxury tax they will pay 5mil so thats total of 17million savings.

They also got rid of kapono which is around 2mil of luxury tax.....

The 2nd 1st round is a trade with Miami heat......If lakers have a better record than Heat...Cavs get to keep the pick....so its 28-29th pick...either way


so we got 1 draft pick in one of the deepest drafts in history and another draft pick that will improve our position in the 2013 draft (be honest with yourselve and admit miami will have a better record then LA.

for a guy that we didnt really need and who was not signing back with us. so what, we took in walton and we still have 20 million in cap space for next season.

late draft picks could be used in trades, and who knows who we will up gettin. could be a great role player.

stupid lakers fans don't understand that sessions wasn't staying in cleveland. so, instead of losing him for nothing we got exactly what we wanted. the same trade that was being offered to every other team in the league.

[1987_Lakers]

OKC
memphis
dallas
clippers
utah
san antonio

who knows what could happen out west... i didn' say the will be 5th or 6th, but they very well could be. one thing is for sure, they will not have a better record then miami.
:roll:

[LBJMVP]

:roll:

can you remind what happened to the lakers in last years playoffs?

memphis is an up and coming talented team who was without there 2nd or arguably first best player most of the season (3 games behind LA right now)

utah is also a very talented young team that will only improve (4 games behind LA right now)

lakers will be a pretty old team next year.

[Meticode]

I'm not sure what the Lakers fans or whoever is boasting about. Sessions wasn't coming back next year for the Cavaliers, he was likely going to go to a contender. So the Cavaliers traded him and did everyone a favor. They got some draft picks, Sessions got to go to a contender and the Lakers got a decent point guard while getting rid of Walton and Kapano (who probably won't be on the Cavaliers roster next season).

[LBJMVP]

i forgot to mention, but hopefully this is a pau Gasol-esque trade because that would mean walton turns into an all star, plus we get the 1st rounders :lol

[ganja0710]

lakers will be a pretty old team next year.
Its people like you who say this year after year. :oldlol: When you have a top 2 Center, a top 10 PF, and the top shooting guard in the league this year, what's a year from now gonna do? Not much.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Its people like you who say this year after year. :oldlol: When you have a top 2 Center, a top 10 PF, and the top shooting guard in the league this year, what's a year from now gonna do? Not much.

bullseye

[ganja0710]

But keep living in your own little world, thinking you guys got the better of the deal, while we just laugh at you. :oldlol:

[LoneyROY7]

The Lakers are a dangerous team.

:lebroncry:

[Flagrant 2]

Jesus christ LBJMVP is still posting in this thread? How mad can one kid get? :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

can you remind what happened to the lakers in last years playoffs?

memphis is an up and coming talented team who was without there 2nd or arguably first best player most of the season (3 games behind LA right now)

utah is also a very talented young team that will only improve (4 games behind LA right now)

lakers will be a pretty old team next year.

Dallas is done. They are old, lack talent & scoring outside of Dirk. Memphis is talented, but they don't have a superstar, superstars usually get you over the top. Utah?? lmao, they have no shooters and play poor defense and lack talent to stay with LA.

Kobe & Gasol will be a year older, but do you see Kobe suddenly declining next year, he is leading the league in scoring. Gasol is still a legit All-Star who can get you 18/10 consistently, 32 isn't ancient and he relies more on his skill than his athletic ability. Bynum is a borderline superstar who will be even better next year, and we got a true point guard in Sessions now. We basically have 4 legit All-Star players. All We need is some scorer off the bench and we are set.

[Is He Ill]

He's a really solid player. I would take Sessions over two late 1st round picks, but both teams ended up getting a good deal imo. The Gasol trade was basically a robbery outside of Marc.

[LBJMVP]

Dallas is done. They are old, lack talent & scoring outside of Dirk. Memphis is talented, but they don't have a superstar, superstars usually get you over the top. Utah?? lmao, they have no shooters and play poor defense and lack talent to stay with LA.

Kobe & Gasol will be a year older, but do you see Kobe suddenly declining next year, he is leading the league in scoring. Gasol is still a legit All-Star who can get you 18/10 consistently, 32 isn't ancient and he relies more on his skill than his athletic ability. Bynum is a borderline superstar who will be even better next year, and we got a true point guard in Sessions now. We basically have 4 legit All-Star players. All We need is some scorer off the bench and we are set.

so why are those teams all 4 wins off from LA?

utah is very young
tony wroten/kendall marshall (assuming they take one of the two0
alec burks
gordon hayward
derrick favors
enes kanter

all those guys are very talented 20 years olds
very scary.

memphis is a very scary team

sure dallas is getting old, but that same old team swept LA last year and LA has the worst bench in the league and gasol and kobe aren't getting younger.

[StacksOnDeck]

He's a really solid player. I would take Sessions over two late 1st round picks, but both teams ended up getting a good deal imo. The Gasol trade was basically a robbery outside of Marc.

Not really. They got cap space which ended up being Zbo and Darrel Arthur.

[sagr32]

so why are those teams all 4 wins off from LA?

utah is very young
tony wroten/kendall marshall (assuming they take one of the two0
alec burks
gordon hayward
derrick favors
enes kanter

all those guys are very talented 20 years olds
very scary.

memphis is a very scary team

sure dallas is getting old, but that same old team swept LA last year and LA has the worst bench in the league and gasol and kobe aren't getting younger. Yeah Utah is young but that also comes withh inexperience and underachieving in the initial years. Memphis is a bit of a wild card in determining where they are gonna land they could stay right where they are as a top 3-6 team or they could grow to challenge OKC as the up and coming young team. And Dallas lost what let them beat LA in the first place in chandler. Without his inside presence they don't stand a chance at slowing down Bynum AND Gasol. Not to mention they don't have anyone with footspeed to guard sessions. They do have Marion who has been able to slow Kobe I'll give em that.

[LBJMVP]

Yeah Utah is young but that also comes withh inexperience and underachieving in the initial years. Memphis is a bit of a wild card in determining where they are gonna land they could stay right where they are as a top 3-6 team or they could grow to challenge OKC as the up and coming young team. And Dallas lost what let them beat LA in the first place in chandler. Without his inside presence they don't stand a chance at slowing down Bynum AND Gasol. Not to mention they don't have anyone with footspeed to guard sessions. They do have Marion who has been able to slow Kobe I'll give em that.

utah is already playing very well though...

i didnt say LA will be a 5 or 6 seed. they could still be top 2 or 3 (though i really hope they arent, hopefully they have a lotter pick :D )

[ganja0710]

so why are those teams all 4 wins off from LA?

utah is very young
tony wroten/kendall marshall (assuming they take one of the two0
alec burks
gordon hayward
derrick favors
enes kanter

all those guys are very talented 20 years olds
very scary.

memphis is a very scary team

sure dallas is getting old, but that same old team swept LA last year and LA has the worst bench in the league and gasol and kobe aren't getting younger.
Yeah but those young Jazz guys are riding the bench and they'll continue to be there until they show some star potential. Burks, Favors, and Kanter haven't really done anything this season that makes me think otherwise.

And why aren't all of those teams ahead of LA when you're picking out every negative against the Lakers. Being young and having fresh legs should do your team so much better in a condensed schedule this season right? Or how the Lakers bench is possibly the worst in the league? Lakers are just the better team, with better talent than any of those teams. That simple.

[LakersReign]

so why are those teams all 4 wins off from LA?

utah is very young
tony wroten/kendall marshall (assuming they take one of the two0
alec burks
gordon hayward
derrick favors
enes kanter

all those guys are very talented 20 years olds
very scary.

memphis is a very scary team

sure dallas is getting old, but that same old team swept LA last year and LA has the worst bench in the league and gasol and kobe aren't getting younger.


Dallas isn't anywhere close to being the same team this year like they were last year. So to try and bring that up, means you're reaching.:rolleyes:

[1987_Lakers]

so why are those teams all 4 wins off from LA?

Maybe because Fisher was our starting PG for 43 games this year.:oldlol:

Plus stuff like this happens in a lockout year, the Knicks made the Finals as an 8th seed during a lockout season.

Continue living in fantasy land if you really think Dallas (no talent outside Dirk), Utah(lmfao), & Memphis(young and no alpha dog) will be ahead of a STACKED lakers team next year.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

so we got 1 draft pick in one of the deepest drafts in history and another draft pick that will improve our position in the 2013 draft (be honest with yourselve and admit miami will have a better record then LA.

for a guy that we didnt really need and who was not signing back with us. so what, we took in walton and we still have 20 million in cap space for next season.

late draft picks could be used in trades, and who knows who we will up gettin. could be a great role player.

stupid lakers fans don't understand that sessions wasn't staying in cleveland. so, instead of losing him for nothing we got exactly what we wanted. the same trade that was being offered to every other team in the league.

a dumb fcuk like u needs to understand that Lakers with their cap space would never able to sign a guy like sessions....not even an average pg....

a dumb fcuk like you needs to understand that they had to trade Pau to get a pg like lowry...whom rockets even didnt wanted to trade

a fcuking retard like you needs to understand the lakers not only saved money on luxury tax for this year but also next year

& your fcuked up brain needs to understand you are talking about the LAKERS here...not a sh1tty Cavs team who is happy to get a 1st rounder...out of the deal

rot in misery...u a$$hole

[qrich]

But keep living in your own little world, thinking you guys got the better of the deal, while we just laugh at you. :oldlol:

I didn't see anyone posting that the Cavs got the better end of the deal? :whoknows:, but they did get a good deal as well. A first + moving up at least 3 spots in another draft for the salary difference of Ramon and Walton, basically paid $3 mil or w/e the difference is for a pick and the swap.



Maybe because Fisher was our starting PG for 43 games this year.:oldlol:

Plus stuff like this happens in a lockout year, the Knicks made the Finals as an 8th seed during a lockout season.

Continue living in fantasy land if you really think Dallas (no talent outside Dirk), Utah(lmfao), & Memphis(young and no alpha dog) will be ahead of a STACKED lakers team next year.

Dallas will have Dirk and a ton of cap space for next year, Utah is young and only improving, Memphis has Z-Bo who can be an alpha dog. To say none of them have a chance for next year is :wtf: as no one knows what changes will be made and how far young guys will improve.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

I didn't see anyone posting that the Cavs got the better end of the deal? :whoknows:, but they did get a good deal as well. A first + moving up at least 3 spots in another draft for the salary difference of Ramon and Walton, basically paid $3 mil or w/e the difference is for a pick and the swap.




Dallas will have Dirk and a ton of cap space for next year, Utah is young and only improving, Memphis has Z-Bo who can be an alpha dog. To say none of them have a chance for next year is :wtf: as no one knows what changes will be made and how far young guys will improve.

dallas has tons of cap space but if deron signs with the nets its totally useless....

[LBJMVP]

a dumb fcuk like u needs to understand that Lakers with their cap space would never able to sign a guy like sessions....not even an average pg....

a dumb fcuk like you needs to understand that they had to trade Pau to get a pg like lowry...whom rockets even didnt wanted to trade

a fcuking retard like you needs to understand the lakers not only saved money on luxury tax for this year but also next year

& your fcuked up brain needs to understand you are talking about the LAKERS here...not a sh1tty Cavs team who is happy to get a 1st rounder...out of the deal

rot in misery...u a$$hole



:roll: :roll: :roll:

did you read where i said that i thought this was a great trade for both teams?
i was just disputing the fact that this trade was even close to a comparison to the pau gasol trade.

a dumb f*ck like you need to understand that cleveland didnt need session
a dumb f*ck like you needs to understand sessions wasn't resigning in cleveland
a dumb f*ck like you needs to realize cleveland is in rebuilding mode
a dumb f*ck like you needs to realize cleveland has to utilize the draft in everyone possible way because signing free agents is hard, oh wait you would understand because you have been spoiled with talent from free agency since the beginning. :facepalm

you stupid boy?

[qrich]

dallas has tons of cap space but if deron signs with the nets its totally useless....

Not saying they will get Deron nor use the cap space properly, but to write them off for next year is as idiotic as saying they'll get Deron and dominate imo.

[LBJMVP]

Not saying they will get Deron nor use the cap space properly, but to write them off for next year is as idiotic as saying they'll get Deron and dominate imo.

most (not all) lakers fans only care about what happens in LA.
they are blinded by facts about all the other teams. they don't even know
how to properly read a thread for detail before posting such stupid comments.

[DirtySanchez]

Great trade for both teams....no need to argue.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

did you read where i said that i thought this was a great trade for both teams?
i was just disputing the fact that this trade was even close to a comparison to the pau gasol trade.

a dumb f*ck like you need to understand that cleveland didnt need session
a dumb f*ck like you needs to understand sessions wasn't resigning in cleveland
a dumb f*ck like you needs to realize cleveland is in rebuilding mode
a dumb f*ck like you needs to realize cleveland has to utilize the draft in everyone possible way because signing free agents is hard, oh wait you would understand because you have been spoiled with talent from free agency since the beginning. :facepalm

you stupid boy?

and then K Irving leaves Cavs just like that ....Stern will throw you a bone...you guys go in another rebuilding mode .....after 10 years you still crying about the lakers :lebroncry: :lebroncry: :lebroncry:

& I am like :kobe: :kobe: :kobe:

[LBJMVP]

and then K Irving leaves Cavs just like that ....Stern will throw you a bone...you guys go in another rebuilding mode .....after 10 years you still crying about the lakers :lebroncry: :lebroncry: :lebroncry:

& I am like :kobe: :kobe: :kobe:

what a great response :applause:

:facepalm

[ganja0710]

I didn't see anyone posting that the Cavs got the better end of the deal? :whoknows:, but they did get a good deal as well. A first + moving up at least 3 spots in another draft for the salary difference of Ramon and Walton, basically paid $3 mil or w/e the difference is for a pick and the swap.
What? This is how this argument started in the first place. Besides, that comment was directed to him only. The only person who thought this was a steal on the Cavs end.
Quoted right here:

cleveland really got a steal with this trade. two first rounders for a guy that was leaving cleveland next year :bowdown:

[LBJMVP]

What? This is how this argument started in the first place. Besides, that comment was directed to him only. The only person who thought this was a steal on the Cavs end.
Quoted right here:


are you stupid? i've said to times in this thread, maybe three times that i thought this trade was great for both teams.

i even posted earlier that the posted you are referring to was sarcastic because of the original title of this thread.

:facepalm

[lakerfreak]

so does this mean luke walton is going to become as good as marc gasol?

No, Luke Walton is Kwame, Jason Kapono is Marc Gasol :oldlol:

[qrich]

What? This is how this argument started in the first place. Besides, that comment was directed to him only. The only person who thought this was a steal on the Cavs end.
Quoted right here:


I thought Cleveland got a great deal, and with how people are saying they got hosed, I can see why some would think it was a steal for them.

Bottom line, it worked out for both sides. Lakers kept their TPEs, saved some $$$, but they did give up a chance to pick up a cheap, solid young guy. Cavaliers got an additional pick along with moving up by a handful of spots next year but had to swallow the extra couple of million on Walton's contract next year.

[ganja0710]

are you stupid? i've said to times in this thread, maybe three times that i thought this trade was great for both teams.

i even posted earlier that the posted you are referring to was sarcastic because of the original title of this thread.

:facepalm
Clearly not. :oldlol: Nice try though. And until you see how those draft picks pan out for Cleveland, the Lakers still get the better of this deal.

[LBJMVP]

Clearly not. :oldlol: Nice try though. And until you see how those draft picks pan out for Cleveland, the Lakers still get the better of this deal.

i guess we will see... i think it is an evenly great deal for both teams.
either we lose sessions for nothing or we get a draft pick and another draft pick that could move us up 3-6 spots from our other spot.

plus gilbert said he wanted to stop from miami winning however he can. so we give LA the pg they need. helps out everyone.

[1987_Lakers]

Dallas will have Dirk and a ton of cap space for next year, Utah is young and only improving, Memphis has Z-Bo who can be an alpha dog. To say none of them have a chance for next year is :wtf: as no one knows what changes will be made and how far young guys will improve.

Sorry, I don't see Dallas ahead of LA if they don't get D-Will next year, I don't even see Utah as a threat. I give Memphis a 30% chance of being ahead of the Lakers in the standings next year.

[All Net]

Amazing :cheers:

[WeGetRing2012]

so we got 1 draft pick in one of the deepest drafts in history and another draft pick that will improve our position in the 2013 draft (be honest with yourselve and admit miami will have a better record then LA.

for a guy that we didnt really need and who was not signing back with us. so what, we took in walton and we still have 20 million in cap space for next season.

late draft picks could be used in trades, and who knows who we will up gettin. could be a great role player.

stupid lakers fans don't understand that sessions wasn't staying in cleveland. so, instead of losing him for nothing we got exactly what we wanted. the same trade that was being offered to every other team in the league.

Obviously thats why the trade went through.....

[boxclever]

Both teams won in this trade.

LA got a MASSIVE upgrade at the point
The Cavs meanwhile got a 1st rd pick and further reduced their cap space, with a potential All Star in Irving they have no need for Sessions

Both teams should be really happy, this thread is lame

[webberz0044]

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[CeltsGarlic]

Amazing :cheers:


Thats what she said!

[SpanishACB]

i save around 5 minutes a year by not putting apostrophes :D
I like how whilst trying to defend yourself, you manage to look even worse.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Both teams won in this trade.

LA got a MASSIVE upgrade at the point
The Cavs meanwhile got a 1st rd pick and further reduced their cap space, with a potential All Star in Irving they have no need for Sessions

Both teams should be really happy, this thread is lame

This.

[rodman91]

Can we say they are stacked now? Kobe is best or 2nd best SG.Bynum is 2nd best Center.Gasol is still one of the best C/F.Now if Sessions is that good (seems legit) only problem might be Mike Brown's coaching & bench.

I'm asking to Lakers fans and rest of unbias posters. (Not to Kobesexuals who love to underrate his teammates to make him greater or Lakers haters)

[RazorBaLade]

Can we say they are stacked now? Kobe is best or 2nd best SG.Bynum is 2nd best Center.Gasol is still one of the best C/F.Now if Sessions is that good (which seems legit) only problem might be Mike Brown's coaching & bench.

I'm asking to Lakers fans and rest of unbias posters. (Not to Kobesexuals who love to underrate his teammates to make him greater or Lakers haters)

bench is really poor but starting 5 is amazing.

need a 6th man to be stacked imo.

[SacJB Shady]

bench is really poor but starting 5 is amazing.

need a 6th man to be stacked imo.


No 3 out of 5 of their players are amazing. You see, anything is amazing at the 1 in comparison to Fish. Their 3 spot is not so amazing. But they do have 3 great players and Sessions is just a good fit.

[sodap]

that wasn't a steal at all. cleveland got exactly what we wanted? we have the lakers pick this year and pretty much the lakers pick next year....

two first round picks for a guy that wasn't signing with cleveland at the end of the season. lakers fans are really stupid.


well, if you look back, the pau gasol trade gave memphis everything they needed in the long run

[returnofthemack]

sessions is good but not a pau gasol level player. sessions was not going to stay in cleveland to be the backup to kyrie. sure it would have been nice to have a good pg like sessions backing him up but there is no way he would have done that. why would he want to do that?

so he would have been gone in free agency anyway. cavs got a late 1st round pick. so this trade wasnt a steal.

is this deal was such a steal why didnt any other team in the NBA offer a first round pick for sessions? comparing sessions to a guy who has been one of the better bigs in NBA over the last few years is absurd.


in the end it was a good trade for both teams. sorry but your GM did not rape the cavs front office. i know why lakers fan would like to think that (because laker fan thinks their team is just soooo much smarter then the rest of the league). sorry laker fan your team isnt that smart and sly. your just in the biggest market. sorry laker fan but chris grant got exactly what he wanted from your team.

[PP34Deuce]

Trades like this and the BOSTON trade are similar to Fraternities.....

LA connection with Byron Scott. He has a future top 10 PG in Irving who's 5 years younger. all he needs is a 1st round pick to get a SG or legit Center. So he had no problem hooking his former Alma mater up.

Sessions is starting caliber PG. LA fans should not overrate him though. He's not going to be Chris Paul... Starting full time he instantly can give you 15ppg 5rebounds and 7-8 assists with added speed to your perimeter. Thats a win for you guys

[longtime lurker]

What's with the animosity in this thread? Why is it hard for people to admit that this was a great trade for both teams? Great trade for the Lakers for obvious reasons and the fact that the Cavs got anything for a guy that was going to leave at the end of the season made it a good trade for them. And no the 2013 pick is not going to be make a huge difference

[chips93]

im so conflicted right now

i want to sh*t on dumb laker fans, for thinking that they have a really good pg in ramon, when in reality hes a below average starter for his position.

but at the same time, i fvcking love razor ramon. hes the man

i dont know what to do

[DukeDelonte13]

:oldlol: at lakers fans acting like they ripped the cavs off or something. Cavs had absolutely NO intention of giving ramon a payday and had every intention of acquiring more draft picks. Both sides got what they wanted.

[konex]

im so conflicted right now

i want to sh*t on dumb laker fans, for thinking that they have a really good pg in ramon, when in reality hes a below average starter for his position.

but at the same time, i fvcking love razor ramon. hes the man

i dont know what to do

To be honest, any decent PG would be doing this with the talent we have and lack of any other creator off the dribble outside of Kobe. But how about you let us enjoy the best PG we've had since NVE? :no: :banana:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

im so conflicted right now

i want to sh*t on dumb laker fans, for thinking that they have a really good pg in ramon, when in reality hes a below average starter for his position.

but at the same time, i fvcking love razor ramon. hes the man

i dont know what to do

Below average PG? :oldlol: You better stick with the latter.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

:oldlol: at lakers fans acting like they ripped the cavs off or something. Cavs had absolutely NO intention of giving ramon a payday and had every intention of acquiring more draft picks. Both sides got what they wanted.

Wasn't that the same for the Grizzlies?

:confusedshrug:

[Eric Cartman]

Wasn't that the same for the Grizzlies?

:confusedshrug:

It was. Plus they got a Marc, who as of today is a beast.

[Godzuki]

im so conflicted right now

i want to sh*t on dumb laker fans, for thinking that they have a really good pg in ramon, when in reality hes a below average starter for his position.

but at the same time, i fvcking love razor ramon. hes the man

i dont know what to do


you have no idea what you're talking about. especially when most of you watched him in limited minutes. to say he's a below average starter is just :facepalm

but a lot of homers say this stuff about PT players they get on their rosters. Kings fans act like JJ is horrible, but they don't know wtf they're talking about either. and he was damn good last night in spot minutes for the Blazers... go figure.

game is game. you can't make handles, penetration, etc. up. or get lucky with that, shots maybe.... the other thing is circumstance with playing time, shots, support, which makes all of the difference in the world. tired of seeing people talk like they know when they're not really watching :facepalm

[Godzuki]

:oldlol: at lakers fans acting like they ripped the cavs off or something. Cavs had absolutely NO intention of giving ramon a payday and had every intention of acquiring more draft picks. Both sides got what they wanted.


they DID get a steal ONLY because the Cav's already have another very good PG of their future which made keeping him stupid. but from the Lakers PoV they got a steal which they did.....Cav's gave up a VERY talented player even if they don't know it or won't acknowledge it. its a FACT. and the Cav's are rebuilding so i guess they at least got something they wanted, so yeah both sides i guess got what they wanted. Session's would've wasted away on the Cav's bench if they kept him anyways, just like he was wasting away on Minny's bench....

Session's is in a perfect PG situation with those bigs the Lakers have, and his talent.

[Godzuki]

To be honest, any decent PG would be doing this with the talent we have and lack of any other creator off the dribble outside of Kobe. But how about you let us enjoy the best PG we've had since NVE? :no: :banana:


no they wouldn't. most decent PG's don't have the handles or penetration Session's has, or just his overall talent level. i mean someone like Barea may have done well starting with the Lakers but he's sort of underrated too, but he'd also have had more disadvantages than Session's. a lot of other PG's could probably dish to Pau and Bynum pretty well, but not the penetrate of Session's which gets Pau/Bynum and everyone else easier looks.

too bad the LAkers don't use Sess to break down D's enough.

[LBJMVP]

you have no idea what you're talking about. especially when most of you watched him in limited minutes. to say he's a below average starter is just :facepalm

but a lot of homers say this stuff about PT players they get on their rosters. Kings fans act like JJ is horrible, but they don't know wtf they're talking about either. and he was damn good last night in spot minutes for the Blazers... go figure.

game is game. you can't make handles, penetration, etc. up. or get lucky with that, shots maybe.... the other thing is circumstance with playing time, shots, support, which makes all of the difference in the world. tired of seeing people talk like they know when they're not really watching :facepalm


he is a great point guard, but he is't a great starting point guard.
he is a backup poing guard on a championship team.

[LBJMVP]

no they wouldn't. most decent PG's don't have the handles or penetration Session's has, or just his overall talent level. i mean someone like Barea may have done well starting with the Lakers but he's sort of underrated too, but he'd also have had more disadvantages than Session's. a lot of other PG's could probably dish to Pau and Bynum pretty well, but not the penetrate of Session's which gets Pau/Bynum and everyone else easier looks.

too bad the LAkers don't use Sess to break down D's enough.


paul
deron
nash
westbrook
rose
rondo
irving
lawson
curry
lowry
collison
conley
jennings
rubio
barea (hey, you said this one)
jrue holiday
wall
calderon

all of those guys are argueably better than sesssion. almost every startin pg in the league. maybe even some bench guys

he is a great pg and all, but there is no reason to hype him up as much as you've been. i watched most cleveland games so i have seen him play for two straight seasons. he has the penetration abilities of a good point guard.

that is what he is, a good point. nothing special

[Godzuki]

he is a great point guard, but he is't a great starting point guard.
he is a backup poing guard on a championship team.


that doesn't even make sense to me. game is game. he has it. he was only a backup due to circumstance. its silly how that becomes what he's best at somehow :confusedshrug:

i mean everyone who was yappin like he's a backup when he was traded are wrong right now and these were mostly his previous team homers. he's far from a backup talent for the Lakers thus far, if anything he's one of their best/key players right now. and i can't see that changing even if his shot goes to shit.

[LBJMVP]

that doesn't even make sense to me. game is game. he has it. he was only a backup due to circumstance. its silly how that becomes what he's best at somehow :confusedshrug:

he would still have been the backup in minnesota if we didnt trade for him. and if minnesota didnt get him from milwaukee he would have still been the backup.

[Godzuki]

paul
deron
nash
westbrook
rose
rondo
irving
lawson
curry
lowry
collison
conley
jennings
rubio
barea (hey, you said this one)
jrue holiday
wall
calderon

all of those guys are argueably better than sesssion. almost every startin pg in the league. maybe even some bench guys

he is a great pg and all, but there is no reason to hype him up as much as you've been. i watched most cleveland games so i have seen him play for two straight seasons. he has the penetration abilities of a good point guard.

that is what he is, a good point. nothing special


he called him 'average', and he's better than half that list(Collison, Jrue, Calderon, etc,), arguably 3/4's....

like i said give him a year to prove it and get integrated, and he'll be a top PG in the league, as long as he remains the starting PG with the Lakers. it takes a while for general fans to realize it, just like now doubting his early success. a year of it will make it sink in or prove it....

[Punpun]

p
rubio
all of those guys are argueably better than sesssion. almost every startin pg in the league. maybe even some bench guys

As if Rubio is better than Sessions. The day Rubio average more than 40% of his FG maybe you could have a case. But that's it. :oldlol:

[Godzuki]

he would still have been the backup in minnesota if we didnt trade for him.


Minnesota was stupid, especially when he was better than Flynn.... and everyone thats watched Session's has always known he's had talent. which is why some of us had been saying the Lakers should get him before the trade happened, while those teams homers(Minny/Cav's) were trying to trivialize him. i swear its the EXACT same thing with Kings homers regarding JJ Hickson. I'm sure there are a lot more examples of players who end up in backup roles with limited minutes/shots where those team fans think they're awful, but its not easy to really show yourself in those predicaments.

[LBJMVP]

he called him 'average', and he's better than half that list(Collison, Jrue, Calderon, etc,), arguably 3/4's....

like i said give him a year to prove it and get integrated, and he'll be a top PG in the league, as long as he remains the starting PG with the Lakers. it takes a while for general fans to realize it, just like now doubting his early success. a year of it will make it sink in or prove it....


it's possible. there are glimpses of him being a great point guard.
maybe he will play better as a starter and it will help his confidence.
he always seemed to play great when he started in cleveland.

if he breaks out i will be very excited because itll help the lakers beat the
heat if it comes down to that. :D

[Eat Like A Bosh]

that wasn't a steal at all. cleveland got exactly what we wanted? we have the lakers pick this year and pretty much the lakers pick next year....

two first round picks for a guy that wasn't signing with cleveland at the end of the season. lakers fans are really stupid.
Lmfao! :oldlol: The Lakers draft pick and Miami Draft pick are pretty much worthless. And you're acting like Luke Walton is the Pau Gasol of the trade! :oldlol:

[Pinkhearts]

Pau Gasol trade is the best trade in ages. Memphis loves it. They would do it again over a 100 times if they could.

Marc Gasol, Cap space, Z-bo? Wow.

[jjayfive]

paul
deron
nash
westbrook
rose
rondo
irving
lawson
curry
lowry
collison
conley
jennings
rubio
barea (hey, you said this one)
jrue holiday
wall
calderon

all of those guys are argueably better than sesssion. almost every startin pg in the league. maybe even some bench guys

he is a great pg and all, but there is no reason to hype him up as much as you've been. i watched most cleveland games so i have seen him play for two straight seasons. he has the penetration abilities of a good point guard.

that is what he is, a good point. nothing special

wall is overrated
barea is a nice spark off the bench and that's all
rubio makes nice plays but he is overrated..
conley is ok
jennings plays like a 2 guard better scorer than sessions..
curry is not a true point guard and he hasn't done anything but be injured.
haven't watched enough of jrue and collison..

these players are not better than sessions as a point guard..

[LBJMVP]

wall is overrated
barea is a nice spark off the bench and that's all
rubio makes nice plays but he is overrated..
conley is ok
jennings plays like a 2 guard better scorer than sessions..
curry is not a true point guard and he hasn't done anything but be injured.
haven't watched enough of jrue and collison..

these players are not better than sessions as a point guard..

opinion.

[cavsfanatic]

yea trading a player who was gonna opt out and leave was such a bad trade for Cleveland :facepalm You ppl really have no basketball knowledge. We have Kyrie Irving starting for next 10-15 years so why the **** would Sessions not opt out and leave? dumb ****s

[talkingconch]

Pau Gasol trade is the best trade in ages. Memphis loves it. They would do it again over a 100 times if they could.

Marc Gasol, Cap space, Z-bo? Wow.
and 0 championships wow! Do it again pls!:facepalm

[White Mamba]

yea trading a player who was gonna opt out and leave was such a bad trade for Cleveland :facepalm You ppl really have no basketball knowledge. We have Kyrie Irving starting for next 10-15 years so why the **** would Sessions not opt out and leave? dumb ****s

trade him was good move but why u need luke contract?

[cavsfanatic]

Lmfao! :oldlol: The Lakers draft pick and Miami Draft pick are pretty much worthless. And you're acting like Luke Walton is the Pau Gasol of the trade! :oldlol:
No picks are worthless. Boozer, Redd, Monta Ellis, Gilbert Arenas, Sessions etc etc where 2nd rd picks. so yeah a 1st rd pick is really worthless instead of losing him for nothing. foh

[Flagrant 2]

and 0 championships wow! Do it again pls!:facepalm
:oldlol:

[cavsfanatic]

trade him was good move but why u need luke contract?
to make money match I guess. We gave them Eyenga and Sessions thats about 6 million and Luke make 6. He only under one more year, it's not like dude got a 5 year deal remaining.

[cavsfanatic]

:oldlol:
um sir? please change you're avi

[Flagrant 2]

um sir? please change you're avi
:dancin

[wakencdukest]

paul
deron
nash
westbrook
rose
rondo
irving
lawson
curry
lowry
collison
conley
jennings
rubio
barea (hey, you said this one)
jrue holiday
wall
calderon

all of those guys are argueably better than sesssion. almost every startin pg in the league. maybe even some bench guys

he is a great pg and all, but there is no reason to hype him up as much as you've been. i watched most cleveland games so i have seen him play for two straight seasons. he has the penetration abilities of a good point guard.

that is what he is, a good point. nothing special


That's all we need. We got the big men, we got Kobe, all we needed was a decent point guard who could penetrate, which we haven't had in over a decade. The trade was also great because we got rid of puke Walton and Kapono. The trade was great for Cleveland because you guys get a first round pick in a deep draft. Bottom line, no one got ripped off in this trade, it's a win for both teams.

[Artillery]

paul
deron
nash
westbrook
rose
rondo
irving
lawson
curry
lowry
collison
conley
jennings
rubio
barea (hey, you said this one)
jrue holiday
wall
calderon

all of those guys are argueably better than sesssion. almost every startin pg in the league. maybe even some bench guys

he is a great pg and all, but there is no reason to hype him up as much as you've been. i watched most cleveland games so i have seen him play for two straight seasons. he has the penetration abilities of a good point guard.

that is what he is, a good point. nothing special

You know Tony Parker's underrated when people forget to put him in a top point guard list when he's averaging 20/8 on 47% and 1 spg and his team is 2nd in the West.

[Chapallaz]

So, now Laker fans are going to hype Sessions all of a sudden? He's a top pg now? :oldlol: