Who is the best player on the Lakers?

[StateOfMind12]

This is a legitimate question these days whether people specifically Kobe fans want to believe or not.

Who do you guys honestly think is the best player on the Lakers?

For me, I would honestly say Andrew Bynum is the best player on the Lakers. As much as I love and respect Kobe, his time is done and he is no longer the best player in the league nor is he even the best player on his own team anymore.

Bynum is practically better than Kobe at like everything these days. The only real advantage I would give Kobe is that he is the better passer/playmaker and can handle double teams better. Kobe is an inconsistent and inefficient scorer these days while Bynum is the opposite. Bynum is incredibly consistent and incredibly efficient with his scoring.

[RazorBaLade]

whats the time table on this bad boy?

We talking entire season? Last month? Last game?

Entire season - kobe
month - bynum
last game - sessions

[talkingconch]

Bynum or Kobe.

Kobe had a streak of 30 point games, 40's this season, hes been efficient and inefficient.

Bynum is emerging...Has emerged. Picking up where he left off before that 2008 injury

[DevilsAssassin]

We have to wait and see what Bynum can do in the postseason.

[WeGetRing2012]

Lakers future is bright. Obviously I would say Kobe but Gasol & Bynum are great players and Session just adds something great to the team. Mitch gets a shout out too..... :rockon:

[chazzy]

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[lakerspng]

this is a joke right? Andrew's made amazing strides this year thanks to his health and confidence but seriously?

[RazorBaLade]

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brb printing picture and fapping

[Bladers]

this is a joke right? Andrew's made amazing strides this year thanks to his health and confidence but seriously?

His haters need something else to talk about.
First it was gasol now its bynum...

lol nothing new, move along.

[Cowboy Thunder]

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who the hell is that feather

[LoneyROY7]

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Kobe WISHES he could trim his facial hair that tight.

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

Anyone that honestly thinks its Kobe Bryant knows NOTHING about basketball.

It isn't even close, Bynum controls the paint defensively and when given the ball in the post there is noone that can stop him. He gets much better looks at the basket compared to Kobe. Kobe lives off of tough shots these days and though he can make them sometimes it is not going to be consistant aside from his hot streaks. He doesn't get enough easy points for him to be a superstar anymore. He is just a shot chucker at this stage and a slow unathletic Allen Iverson. Defensively Kobe has fallen big time, while Bynum is impossible to post up and his length ****s up anyone that tries penetrating.

Bynums weaknesses are durability and the ability to handle double teams. Thus far he has been healthy all year. He still needs to handle double teams better, but, it is enough to overlook for him in favor of Kobe who is incredibly inefficient and really just costs his team possessions with all of his retarded shots rather than let go of his ego and give the ball to the superior players on his team that live in the post.

When healthy Bynum is EASILY better than Kobe. It isn't even debatable unless your a Kobe nutrider or someone who takes everything ESPN forces down their throats as fact.

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[Flagrant 2]

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Thanks for the new avatar. Fapping right now.

[RazorBaLade]

Anyone that honestly thinks its Kobe Bryant knows NOTHING about basketball.

It isn't even close, Bynum controls the paint defensively and when given the ball in the post there is noone that can stop him. He gets much better looks at the basket compared to Kobe. Kobe lives off of tough shots these days and though he can make them sometimes it is not going to be consistant aside from his hot streaks. He doesn't get enough easy points for him to be a superstar anymore. He is just a shot chucker at this stage and a slow unathletic Allen Iverson. Defensively Kobe has fallen big time, while Bynum is impossible to post up and his length ****s up anyone that tries penetrating.

Bynums weaknesses are durability and the ability to handle double teams. Thus far he has been healthy all year. He still needs to handle double teams better, but, it is enough to overlook for him in favor of Kobe who is incredibly inefficient and really just costs his team possessions with all of his retarded shots rather than let go of his ego and give the ball to the superior players on his team that live in the post.

When healthy Bynum is EASILY better than Kobe. It isn't even debatable unless your a Kobe nutrider or someone who takes everything ESPN forces down their throats as fact.

it is you that knows nothing about basketball nor strong trolling

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

it is you that knows nothing about basketball nor strong trolling

Solid counter-argument bro. Feel free to re-visit the thread when you take Kobes **** out of your mouth. Remember to swallow too, Mr. Bryant doesn't like stains on his new rugs.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Anyone that honestly thinks its Kobe Bryant knows NOTHING about basketball.

It isn't even close, Bynum controls the paint defensively and when given the ball in the post there is noone that can stop him. He gets much better looks at the basket compared to Kobe. Kobe lives off of tough shots these days and though he can make them sometimes it is not going to be consistant aside from his hot streaks. He doesn't get enough easy points for him to be a superstar anymore. He is just a shot chucker at this stage and a slow unathletic Allen Iverson. Defensively Kobe has fallen big time, while Bynum is impossible to post up and his length ****s up anyone that tries penetrating.

Bynums weaknesses are durability and the ability to handle double teams. Thus far he has been healthy all year. He still needs to handle double teams better, but, it is enough to overlook for him in favor of Kobe who is incredibly inefficient and really just costs his team possessions with all of his retarded shots rather than let go of his ego and give the ball to the superior players on his team that live in the post.

When healthy Bynum is EASILY better than Kobe. It isn't even debatable unless your a Kobe nutrider or someone who takes everything ESPN forces down their throats as fact.
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[Flagrant 2]

Anyone that honestly thinks its Kobe Bryant knows NOTHING about basketball.

It isn't even close, Bynum controls the paint defensively and when given the ball in the post there is noone that can stop him. He gets much better looks at the basket compared to Kobe. Kobe lives off of tough shots these days and though he can make them sometimes it is not going to be consistant aside from his hot streaks. He doesn't get enough easy points for him to be a superstar anymore. He is just a shot chucker at this stage and a slow unathletic Allen Iverson. Defensively Kobe has fallen big time, while Bynum is impossible to post up and his length ****s up anyone that tries penetrating.

Bynums weaknesses are durability and the ability to handle double teams. Thus far he has been healthy all year. He still needs to handle double teams better, but, it is enough to overlook for him in favor of Kobe who is incredibly inefficient and really just costs his team possessions with all of his retarded shots rather than let go of his ego and give the ball to the superior players on his team that live in the post.

When healthy Bynum is EASILY better than Kobe. It isn't even debatable unless your a Kobe nutrider or someone who takes everything ESPN forces down their throats as fact.http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-q/PauSad.jpg

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-q/PauSad.jpg

Thats a nice picture of the 2010 Finals MVP.


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Age: 17

[Flagrant 2]

Thats a nice picture of the 2010 Finals MVP.

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[Deuce Bigalow]

Thats a nice picture of the 2010 Finals MVP.

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[G-Funk]

Lol Now Bynum is top 5? Yeah okay

[RazorBaLade]

Solid counter-argument bro. Feel free to re-visit the thread when you take Kobes **** out of your mouth. Remember to swallow too, Mr. Bryant doesn't like stains on his new rugs.

u dont believe the garbage u said why would i spend time pooping on your face?

and ok i will take your advice in swallowing, after all, youve mastered it

[thelucifer69]

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[lakerfreak]

Kobe

Bynum's performance as of late has been stellar. Kobe has had some bad shooting games. But if we're going into the playoffs and we had to pick one player to move on with while benching one, its Kobe.

[HurricaneKid]

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For truth.

The argument for Kobe is essentially "he shoots a lot".

[Punpun]

This is a legitimate question these days whether people specifically Kobe fans want to believe or not.



You know, it's not because you write something that it becomes true. "Who is the best president between Bush and Obama ? This is a legitimate question these days wether people specifically obama fans want to believe or not".

Do you see how ridiculous your claim is ? You gotta back it up.

[Godzuki]

best as in invaluable i'd agree its Bynum. if he weren't so injury prone, or had to play secondary to Kobe's chucking, he'd be recognized as one of the biggest beasts in the league. there isn't a bigger mismatch in the league than Bynum vs everyone else. its as close to having a Shaq in the league today imo. its just such a waste sometimes tho with Kobe jacking up so many shots or dominating it, and i wouldn't mind so much if he weren't constantly taking bad ones or making them harder. that kills me more about Kobe than Bynum/Pau not being used so much.

[NumberSix]

In the regular season It's been Bynum. It's not really close. However, when the playoffs come, I believe Kobe will be. With no more back-2-backs and hectic travelling schedules, Kobe will be able to play at a higher level in the slower paced half court game.

[Godzuki]

In the regular season It's been Bynum. It's not really close. However, when the playoffs come, I believe Kobe will be. With no more back-2-backs and hectic travelling schedules, Kobe will be able to play at a higher level in the slower paced half court game.


jump shooters are always going to be much more wishy washy than bigs in the post. playoffs or not, i don't think Kobe's inconsistency will change because no player is very hot every game from perimeter. look at Joe Johnson and the sea saw games he has, but that goes for EVERY mid to long range shooter.

[Punpun]

It's pretty hilarious how you guys are focusing on kobe 'incosistency" when Bynum and Gasol have been inconsistent all season long.

[PJR]

Big Bynum

The Spaniard









Kobrick

[Godzuki]

It's pretty hilarious how you guys are focusing on kobe 'incosistency" when Bynum and Gasol have been inconsistent all season long.


more like they have less margin of error before they get pulled or get less looks than Kobe when they do bad. Bynum losing the ball in the post a few times, and he will barely get it back the rest of the game. still doesn't mean he's not a much better high% option than Kobe's mid range J's in general offensively.

you put Bynum on a lot of other teams and they're force feeding him regardless of how many TO's he has in the post.

[DaHeezy]

Sorry but Lakers without Kobe would be far worse off than Lakers without Bynum.
Let's see what Bynum could do with no kobe there to open the floor.

[Punpun]

ANother thing once again. You guys are focusing on the fact Kobe had the ball on his hands all the time. But that was because he was the ONLY guy able to create shot of others. Now that Session is in things will change.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Can't go wrong with either. Bynum gives you the points, rebounds, efficiency, and defense. Kobe gives you the scoring and playmaking.

[wally_world]

It seems like Bynum is, and i'd love to say he is, but i'll hold that thought till the postseason

[PickernRoller]

OP checking his state of mind,

check done,..............result: OP is a f@g00t

[MMM]

Bynum has been great and there can be a solid argument made for him but are we going to ignore all the defensive attention Kobe gets and how that impacts the game????? Once again people are far to prone to losing their mind when it comes to discussing Kobe.

[DMAVS41]

Easily Kobe.

:wtf:

[Godzuki]

Bynum has been great and there can be a solid argument made for him but are we going to ignore all the defensive attention Kobe gets and how that impacts the game????? Once again people are far to prone to losing their mind when it comes to discussing Kobe.


you can throw it into Bynum even with 3 people draped on him if he's positioned right. he makes everyone including some other Centers look like midgets.

[Stern]

First Gadol now Bynum.

Fact is Bynum gets most of his points from kobe or gasol throwings lobs for him. When he has to make his osn shot its always a turnover or a brick.

[Zedja]

First Gadol now Bynum.

Fact is Bynum gets most of his points from kobe or gasol throwings lobs for him. When he has to make his osn shot its always a turnover or a brick.
:cheers:

[MMM]

you can throw it into Bynum even with 3 people draped on him if he's positioned right. he makes everyone including some other Centers look like midgets.

This is true, but from my perspective just look at how a great defense like the Celtics play the lakers. They place all their attention on Kobe and they don't even have a legitimate center on the roster. I think that shows just how much attention/respect that Kobe gets which does have a huge impact on the games. When Bynum can refine his other skills to the point where he can help other then the discussion can become more legitimate. Right now Bynum can dominate a game physically while Kobe has the edge mentally. So I would prefer the vet who's game is refined, knows what it takes in the playoffs, and has been in every situation.

[Heavincent]

Easily Kobe.

:wtf:

Good to see you have maintained some sense of logic.

The obvious answer is Kobe.

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

First Gadol now Bynum.

Fact is Bynum gets most of his points from kobe or gasol throwings lobs for him. When he has to make his osn shot its always a turnover or a brick.

Gadol? Only a Kobe fanboy would create a nickname that bad/unfunny.

18 PPG on strictly lobs? Not bad, considering Dwight Howard averages 21 PPG while touching the ball and posting up nearly every possession imagine what Bynum would get. And regarding the Bricks, you must be thinking of Kobe.

Kobes Turnovers per game: 3.8
Bynum Turnovers per game: 2.6

Kobes FG%: 42%
Bynums FG%: 58%

Kobe is shooting 23.5 shot attempts per game from the field which is the highest amount of FGA he shot since his 81 point gameseason in 2006. And this is with two allstar bigmen in the post that create mismatches against EVERY team in the league. Bynum only getting 12.5 FGA per game and Gasol only getting 13.5 FGA per game. Two guys that have shown to be superior options to Kobe fadaway jumpshots that never go in. Especially Bynum.


Sorry but Lakers without Kobe would be far worse off than Lakers without Bynum.
Let's see what Bynum could do with no kobe there to open the floor.

Cool story bro, thats more about the Lakers lack of shooters than anything though. With Sessions, Bynum immediately becomes more valuable.

[Ronaldinho]

I really would like to see Bynum playing alone.Playing alongside with Gasol and Kobe is easy as hell.

[LakersReign]

Gadol? Only a Kobe fanboy would create a nickname that bad/unfunny.

18 PPG on strictly lobs? Not bad, considering Dwight Howard averages 21 PPG while touching the ball and posting up nearly every possession imagine what Bynum would get. And regarding the Bricks, you must be thinking of Kobe.

Kobes Turnovers per game: 3.8
Bynum Turnovers per game: 2.6

Kobes FG%: 42%
Bynums FG%: 58%

Kobe is shooting 23.5 shot attempts per game from the field which is the highest amount of FGA he shot since his 81 point gameseason in 2006. And this is with two allstar bigmen in the post that create mismatches against EVERY team in the league. Bynum only getting 12.5 FGA per game and Gasol only getting 13.5 FGA per game. Two guys that have shown to be superior options to Kobe fadaway jumpshots that never go in. Especially Bynum.



Cool story bro, thats more about the Lakers lack of shooters than anything though. With Sessions, Bynum immediately becomes more valuable.

Yet another OBVIOUS know nothing about basketball clown(fuhrer hubbs) INSISTING that the Lakers are supposedly better without Kobe....huh?:rolleyes:

(yawn):sleeping

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

Yet another OBVIOUS know nothing about basketball clown(fuhrer hobbs) INSISTING that the Lakers are supposedly better without Kobe.:rolleyes:

(yawn):sleeping

Just like the rest of the Kobe semen slurpers you bring nothing to the table. Prove me wrong or continue slurping.

The Lakers arn't better without Kobe, but if Kobe deferred to Bynum and picked his shots better they'd be the best team in the West easily.

[DMAVS41]

Good to see you have maintained some sense of logic.

The obvious answer is Kobe.

Its you and your fellow morons that have no sense of logic. You want others to be "haters" whenever Kobe isn't praised no matter what.

Logic and balance is exactly what "haters" use here most of the time. Its you and your band of crazies that try to prop up 3-20 games routinely on here.

[DaHeezy]

Gadol? Only a Kobe fanboy would create a nickname that bad/unfunny.

18 PPG on strictly lobs? Not bad, considering Dwight Howard averages 21 PPG while touching the ball and posting up nearly every possession imagine what Bynum would get. And regarding the Bricks, you must be thinking of Kobe.

Kobes Turnovers per game: 3.8
Bynum Turnovers per game: 2.6

Kobes FG%: 42%
Bynums FG%: 58%

Kobe is shooting 23.5 shot attempts per game from the field which is the highest amount of FGA he shot since his 81 point gameseason in 2006. And this is with two allstar bigmen in the post that create mismatches against EVERY team in the league. Bynum only getting 12.5 FGA per game and Gasol only getting 13.5 FGA per game. Two guys that have shown to be superior options to Kobe fadaway jumpshots that never go in. Especially Bynum.



Cool story bro, thats more about the Lakers lack of shooters than anything though. With Sessions, Bynum immediately becomes more valuable.

1- Gadol is an obvious typo. Only a Kobe hater would come up with the conclusion it's a nickname

2- "Cool story bro" has got to be the weakest messageboard comeback in history

3- Your Bynum assessment is all in theory. Kobe has proven to win without Bynum, or a player like him.

[MMM]

Are we really comparing an all time great to a player who has played up to his potential for almost a month????

[Heavincent]

Its you and your fellow morons that have no sense of logic. You want others to be "haters" whenever Kobe isn't praised no matter what.

Logic and balance is exactly what "haters" use here most of the time. Its you and your band of crazies that try to prop up 3-20 games routinely on here.

The **** you talking about? I complimented you. Re-read my post pal.

[EnoughSaid]

Who's been more consistent? ANDREW DA MAN BYNUMMM. Now we see what Shaq has been talking about. :bowdown:

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

1- Gadol is an obvious typo. Only a Kobe hater would come up with the conclusion it's a nickname

2- "Cool story bro" has got to be the weakest messageboard comeback in history

3- Your Bynum assessment is all in theory. Kobe has proven to win without Bynum, or a player like him.

Cool story bro is a quality response to a post consisting of little substance and just a biased statement.

Regarding your third point I guess any assessment of Kevin Love is all in theory as well, since he has JJ Barea on his team since Love has proven never to have won while Barea is a NBA Champion.

Kobe has proven to win without Bynum or a player like him? Really because as far as I can see Kobe has failed to win without one of the best post players in the league which Bynum is at this time. First, Shaq whose prime is top 3 all-time among players in NBA History, not just centers. Gasol was a top 3 bigman in the league with Dwight/Dirk when LA won in 2009 and 2010. Now Kobe will attempt to ride Bynum. Kobe gets a reputation for being a "winner" but in reality its because his front office has put together stacked teams for him. Kobe has never won as the underdog.


Are we really comparing an all time great to a player who has played up to his potential for almost a month????

Yeah your right man, wonder why no team is going to sign all time great Charles Barkley from the TNT studios to replace their PF.

Kobe is old, and no longer as effective as he used to be. What he did years ago has no bearing on his game TODAY. He still has the hype of Kobe, but no longer has the efficiency. 5-20 shooting games have become the norm.

[DMAVS41]

The **** you talking about? I complimented you. Re-read my post pal.

Backhanded mate. LOL...implying I have little logic left.

Which is not true. I don't say anything that isn't backed up by objective data and what my eyes see.

And I certainly don't go around just "hating" on Kobe. I hate his fans like you that act like Kobe has to play basketball with 10 pound shoes, one hand, drugged, and with 5th grader teammates against NBA competition night in night out.

I "hate" hearing Kobe fans complain about teammates when he's had by far the best teammates of this era. That is what I "hate"....I don't hate Kobe at all.

And I would never say he isn't clearly the best player on the Lakers this year. Although he better pick it up or Bynum will have start to have an argument.

[DaHeezy]

Cool story bro is a quality response to a post consisting of little substance and just a biased statement.

No, cool story bro is a lead off for people that are condescending and bias.


Regarding your third point I guess any assessment of Kevin Love is all in theory as well, since he has JJ Barea on his team since Love has proven never to have won while Barea is a NBA Champion.

No, that's called an exaggeration and completely off based.


Kobe has proven to win without Bynum or a player like him? Really because as far as I can see Kobe has failed to win without one of the best post players in the league which Bynum is at this time. First, Shaq whose prime is top 3 all-time among players in NBA History, not just centers. Gasol was a top 3 bigman in the league with Dwight/Dirk when LA won in 2009 and 2010. Now Kobe will attempt to ride Bynum. Kobe gets a reputation for being a "winner" but in reality its because his front office has put together stacked teams for him. Kobe has never won as the underdog.



Shaq is irrelevant to that statement, and I'm not descrediting the big man at all. I'm saying that Kobe HAS proven to win without a guy with his skillset.

And I said "like" players. You honestly think Gasol is like Shaq or even Bynum in skillset? Being a top post player doesn't neccessarily having a asset that makes you comparable.

You argument has many holes.

[June1026]

if Gasol is used properly, then Gasol, too bad nothing is running through him these days.

[LakersReign]

Just like the rest of the Kobe semen slurpers you bring nothing to the table. Prove me wrong or continue slurping.

The Lakers arn't better without Kobe, but if Kobe deferred to Bynum and picked his shots better they'd be the best team in the West easily.

Moron(fuhrer hubbs) please. Without Kobe, Bynum would get double teamed each and every single time he touched the ball. Which would result in stupid turnovers, as we have seen. Bynum gets easy baskets cuz Kobe commands the defense....simple as that. Anybody who tries to say Bynum is a legit #1 option on offense, when he still has yet to learn how to read the defense and pass before the double team comes, CLEARLY knows nothing about basketball. So, once again, please continue to sit there making yourself look stupid.:hammerhead:

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

No, cool story bro is a lead off for people that are condescending and bias.



No, that's called an exaggeration and completely off based.



Shaq is irrelevant to that statement, and I'm not descrediting the big man at all. I'm saying that Kobe HAS proven to win without a guy with his skillset.

And I said "like" players. You honestly think Gasol is like Shaq or even Bynum in skillset? Being a top post player doesn't neccessarily having a asset that makes you comparable.

You argument has many holes.

Before I respond to this, I want to ask you how exactly Kobe is better than Bynum TODAY? After scrolling your posts the only thing I have seen is "Kobe has proven he can win without Bynum" which is a statement that holds no basketball bearing on their ability today, just some bullshit that is an attempt to glorify Kobes past accomplishments even though he is not the same player today.

And yes Shaq/Bynum/Gasol all elite post players. They may get it done differently, but they all get it done which is what it comes down to.


Moron(fuhrer hubbs) please. Without Kobe, Bynum would get double teamed each and every single time he touched the ball. Which would result in stupid turnovers, as we have seen. Bynum gets easy baskets cuz Kobe commands the defense....simple as that. Anybody who tries to say Bynum is a legit #1 option on offense, when he still has yet to learn how to read the defense and pass before the double team comes, CLEARLY knows nothing about basketball. So, once again, please continue to sit there making yourself look stupid.:hammerhead:

Without Kobe the Lakers would have 30 million in cap to surround Gasol/Bynum. Sounds good to me. Part of Bynums struggles with double teams is because the Lakers generally have very poor spacing as thier team contains not many respectable shooters. Should you see Bynum have an offense such as the one Dwight Howard has in Orlando you would see a BIG improvement in his post-up oppurtunties. Noone can stop him 1 on 1, he is a matchup nightmare, moreso than Dwight Howard because he is even bigger, longer and has a better touch around the rim. The spacing is the problem in Lakerland. Kobe shoots like 29% on threes(LOL) and noone else is really respectable at all. Maybe Sessions will fix this, who knows.

[824]

Stop arguing the same old shit.

People are going to hate on kobe, this message board is filled with teens and young 20s, there's going to be lots of stupidity and crazy hate and the dumbest opinions imagineable.

If you watch basketball and you watch the Lakers you know how good Kobe is, just let idiots be idiots. The same can be said for many others players, and just people in general. Opinions with no value are just that.

[MMM]

Cool story bro is a quality response to a post consisting of little substance and just a biased statement.

Regarding your third point I guess any assessment of Kevin Love is all in theory as well, since he has JJ Barea on his team since Love has proven never to have won while Barea is a NBA Champion.

Kobe has proven to win without Bynum or a player like him? Really because as far as I can see Kobe has failed to win without one of the best post players in the league which Bynum is at this time. First, Shaq whose prime is top 3 all-time among players in NBA History, not just centers. Gasol was a top 3 bigman in the league with Dwight/Dirk when LA won in 2009 and 2010. Now Kobe will attempt to ride Bynum. Kobe gets a reputation for being a "winner" but in reality its because his front office has put together stacked teams for him. Kobe has never won as the underdog.



Yeah your right man, wonder why no team is going to sign all time great Charles Barkley from the TNT studios to replace their PF.

Kobe is old, and no longer as effective as he used to be. What he did years ago has no bearing on his game TODAY. He still has the hype of Kobe, but no longer has the efficiency. 5-20 shooting games have become the norm.

Kobe is still playing at an all-star level while Charles Barkley has been retired for a decade+, so that is a really terrible comparison to make your point. As a celtic fan I've witness great players decline over the years and while he Kobe has decline it has not been a steep one.

[Doctor Rivers]

Before I respond to this, I want to ask you how exactly Kobe is better than Bynum TODAY? After scrolling your posts the only thing I have seen is "Kobe has proven he can win without Bynum" which is a statement that holds no basketball bearing on their ability today, just some bullshit that is an attempt to glorify Kobes past accomplishments even though he is not the same player today.

And yes Shaq/Bynum/Gasol all elite post players. They may get it done differently, but they all get it done which is what it comes down to.



Without Kobe the Lakers would have 30 million in cap to surround Gasol/Bynum. Sounds good to me. Part of Bynums struggles with double teams is because the Lakers generally have very poor spacing as thier team contains not many respectable shooters. Should you see Bynum have an offense such as the one Dwight Howard has in Orlando you would see a BIG improvement in his post-up oppurtunties. Noone can stop him 1 on 1, he is a matchup nightmare, moreso than Dwight Howard because he is even bigger, longer and has a better touch around the rim. The spacing is the problem in Lakerland. Kobe shoots like 29% on threes(LOL) and noone else is really respectable at all. Maybe Sessions will fix this, who knows.

Kobe

[RidonKs]

kobe's still the more valuable piece in the short run. bynum isn't ready to be a legitimate number one option on a championship team, whereas kobe can still play that role... albeit not as effectively as in his prime. every game bynum looks more and more comfortable creating his own shot in the middle of the paint, facing up and driving baseline, and finding lanes to go to the hoop for oops. but he isn't there quite yet and bryant hasn't faded that much... or at the absolute least, the attention opposing defenses pay to bryant certainly hasn't faded.


at the same time as i say that, for the lakers to have any chance at all in the postseason, kobe is going to have to stop iso-ing midway through possessions and throwing the whole offense out of wack. point blank, he can't get to the spots on the floor with the ease he used to be able to. the vast majority of his points come on ft's and difficult off-balance jumpers after 5+ seconds of stagnating dribble moves on the perimeter. it's just disgusting to watch.

there is enough offense on that team, enough threats at least, to let him play off ball a lot more... attract attention once the offense is already in motion, as opposed to high posting on either wing or iso's at the top of the key. the twilight of his career will look much much better, and his efficiency will drastically improve as will the lakers chances, if he uses curls and movement off the ball to attract the attention he still obviously warrants. hopefully the addition of another legit slasher will make the transition to facilitator/spot up shooter/decoy a little easier.

then again, a lot of that depends on mike brown... lol

[gengiskhan]

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most efficient player on the team is the best player on the team 100% of the time.

Bynum is that.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

most efficient player on the team is the best player on the team 100% of the time.
wow. not even close to accurate.

[Deuce Bigalow]

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most efficient player on the team is the best player on the team 100% of the time.

Bynum is that.
Damn Jordan Jocker, you ****ed up in the head

[RazorBaLade]

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most efficient player on the team is the best player on the team 100% of the time.

Bynum is that.

best post ever

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

best post ever
I hope you are joking.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

I can't believe people are actually debating this... :facepalm

[LA_Showtime]

It does appear as though the torch is slowly passing to Bynum, although Kobe is still obviously our most dangerous player and we'll only go as far as he leads us.

[Bladers]

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most efficient player on the team is the best player on the team 100% of the time.

Bynum is that.

Tyson Chandler, shooting 70%... Knicks best player, Best player in the NBA infact! :bowdown: :bowdown:

[RazorBaLade]

I hope you are joking.

His post means that bron isn't the best player on the heat.

I'll take that all day. Kobes legacy is cemented as top 10 but this fool just admitted lebron isnt even the best player on his team in the middle of his prime lmao.

[gengiskhan]

Damn Jordan Jocker, you ****ed up in the head

damb retarded ****

how do you justify kobe shooting 30% FG or 25% FG every other game or 2-3 games in a row.

kobe'tards are the most retarded bastards

Bynum is clearly the most efficient Laker on the floor. not just FG% but also tons of rebounds game in game out.

[gengiskhan]

His post means that bron isn't the best player on the heat.

I'll take that all day. Kobes legacy is cemented as top 10 but this fool just admitted lebron isnt even the best player on his team in the middle of his prime lmao.

only in kobe'tards wet dream is that cemented.

Kobe after everything said & done. will be on 12 to 15 position all time. His impact & efficiency will always be questioned after he is long gone.

[Legends66NBA7]

only in kobe'tards wet dream is that cemented.

Kobe after everything said & done. will be on 12 to 15 position all time. His impact & efficiency will always be questioned after he is long gone.

http://nbalegacy.blogspot.ca/2011/06/nba-legacy-all-time-25-june-2011.html

If were talking straight up legacy, then ya... Don't think that website is full of "Kobetards".

[gengiskhan]

I can't believe people are actually debating this... :facepalm

go check bynum's efficiency & stats.

Kobe clearly looses to Bynum. If offense is run through Bynum Laker's would'nt have such a poor "away" record.

[gengiskhan]

http://nbalegacy.blogspot.ca/2011/06/nba-legacy-all-time-25-june-2011.html

If were talking straight up legacy, then ya... Don't think that website is full of "Kobetards".

wait till he is long gone

Kobe is no way Top 10 GOATs.

stats against him. PO stats against him. efficiency against him. impact against him. eventually His first 3 rings with Shaq FMVPs will go against him.

Its too much ESPN NBA kobe publicity that he is pushed to 7th spot.

Kobe above hakeem is a joke. :roll: :roll:

Hakeem only player in history to win Season MVP + DPOY + FMVP in 1994.

[DMAVS41]

only in kobe'tards wet dream is that cemented.

Kobe after everything said & done. will be on 12 to 15 position all time. His impact & efficiency will always be questioned after he is long gone.


LOL at Kobe being only top 15 the way people rank players. Maybe in 100 years or something.

Kobe is locked into the top 10 or 11 and will be for a long long time.

[Legends66NBA7]

LOL at Kobe being only top 15 the way people rank players. Maybe in 100 years or something.

This guy must have done something different:

http://blitzsportsnetwork.com/2011/10/top-50-nba-players-of-all-time/

Already claims that Kobe won't be in the Top 20 or even 30 in 20 years.

[Legends66NBA7]

wait till he is long gone

Kobe is no way Top 10 GOATs.

stats against him. PO stats against him. efficiency against him. impact against him. eventually His first 3 rings with Shaq FMVPs will go against him.

Its too much ESPN NBA kobe publicity that he is pushed to 7th spot.

Kobe above hakeem is a joke.

Hakeem only player in history to win Season MVP + DPOY + FMVP in 1994.

Well off course, we still need to see how his legacy stands the test of time.

I think he will be fine and it will take a lot of great players to knock him out, where ever he truely is...

[Thorn]

This guy must have done something different:

http://blitzsportsnetwork.com/2011/10/top-50-nba-players-of-all-time/

Already claims that Kobe won't be in the Top 20 or even 30 in 20 years.

That's Bruce Blitz. He sort of doesn't like Kobe. As in, he makes unintentionally hilarious videos about how much Jordan is awesome and could do anything and how much Kobe sucks, removes comments that disagree with him, etc. There's a lot of his entertaining videos on Youtube.

[gengiskhan]

LOL at Kobe being only top 15 the way people rank players. Maybe in 100 years or something.

Kobe is locked into the top 10 or 11 and will be for a long long time.

Not for long.

Lebron is knocking on the doors of Top 10 GOATs & will get there by 30.

Lebron got Multiple season MVPs, dominance & impact. Kobe lacked all.

Lebron is FMVP & ring away & DPOY away from Top 12.

Kobe will actually be knocked out of Top 12 once Durant & Lebron cement their legacy.

He will be mentioned along side Barkley & Malone which is not a bad place. Top 12 to 15.

[gengiskhan]

Durrant will clearly effect Kobe's all time legacy.

If OKL wins their first ring ever. & Durrant can maintain his efficiency till age 30, Kobe will be pushed further down clearly.

Durrant is due MVP this year looks like.

Lebron is due MVP as Heat in next 3 yrs till age 30.

Thats 3 for Lebron, 1 legit MVP for durrant & 1 MVP for 16 yrs of Kobe career.

Durrant barring injuries will finish his career with 2+ reg sea MVPs.

[LamarOdom]

Goudelock.

[Doranku]

Durrant will clearly effect Kobe's all time legacy.

If OKL wins their first ring ever. & Durrant can maintain his efficiency till age 30, Kobe will be pushed further down clearly.

Durrant is due MVP this year looks like.

Lebron is due MVP as Heat in next 3 yrs till age 30.

Thats 3 for Lebron, 1 legit MVP for durrant & 1 MVP for 16 yrs of Kobe career.

Durrant barring injuries will finish his career with 2+ reg sea MVPs.

durrant

[PickernRoller]

Lebron, Dirk, Durant and Rose are the best players in a Laker uniform...

Define failure........

[RazorBaLade]

only in kobe'tards wet dream is that cemented.

Kobe after everything said & done. will be on 12 to 15 position all time. His impact & efficiency will always be questioned after he is long gone.

not really. Your opinion is just as in the minority as someone that thinks jordan isnt t1.

just some cranky ass old guys making up 1% of the population who sit there and say jordan wasn't better than bill or wilt or kareem... Thats gonna be you in a number of years saying kobe isnt top 8-10. People like hakeem and oscar are going to fall out of peoples top 10 if durant or bron get there, not kobe.

Your second argument is akin to saying someone isn't a top 10 player because at some point in the future there will be players better than him. Thats pointless. The first argument was just moronic and then you went and surpassed it. Props

[I<3NBA]

we all know that in a game 7, Artest is the best player on the Lakers.

[Eric Cartman]

Kobe. Bynum distant second. Pau close third. No one else deserved to be mentioned.

[FatComputerNerd]

Kobe is not a top 10 all-time player.

[chips93]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2543/4238743571_479e57f2d7.jpg

razor ramon

aka

GAWDmon

aka

the gravel

[BallsOut]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2543/4238743571_479e57f2d7.jpg

razor ramon

aka

GAWDmon

aka

the gravel

da GAWD :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Every list I've seen Kobe is top 10

SLAM
ESPN fan vote
PSD forum
RealGM forum
ESPN NBA forum
ISH forum
ect.

You can't keep a 5 time champ and 2 time finals mvp outside the top 10
West and Oscar have 0 rings as the best player and only 1 ring as the 2nd best player, no case over Kobe. If you want to know Jerry's opinion on Kobe it's that he is the greatest Laker of all-time.
Kobe is top 5 on the scoring list in the season and playoffs, and #1 scorer in Lakers history.

[NumberSix]

not really. Your opinion is just as in the minority as someone that thinks jordan isnt t1.

just some cranky ass old guys making up 1% of the population who sit there and say jordan wasn't better than bill or wilt or kareem... Thats gonna be you in a number of years saying kobe isnt top 8-10. People like hakeem and oscar are going to fall out of peoples top 10 if durant or bron get there, not kobe.

Your second argument is akin to saying someone isn't a top 10 player because at some point in the future there will be players better than him. Thats pointless. The first argument was just moronic and then you went and surpassed it. Props
Wait. Are there actually people that think Kobe is better than Hakeem? Like, really?

If you think Kobe is top 10, I got no problem with that. I don't, but it's certainly arguable. You can definitely make a case. But there's no fcking way on earth you can make a case for him being better than Hakeem. That's just laughably ridiculous.

[Deuce Bigalow]

5

[Heavincent]

laughably ridiculous

That describes your posts pretty well.

[Flagrant 2]

That describes your posts pretty well.
http://static.tumblr.com/mty0jas/HSklo3m51/burnnn.gif

[gengiskhan]

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]5

[gengiskhan]

Wait. Are there actually people that think Kobe is better than Hakeem? Like, really?

If you think Kobe is top 10, I got no problem with that. I don't, but it's certainly arguable. You can definitely make a case. But there's no fcking way on earth you can make a case for him being better than Hakeem. That's just laughably ridiculous.

well said.

Hakeem: NBA MVP + DPOY + FMVP in same year. Kobe Who??:coleman:
Hakeem: Back-2-Back DPOY. Kobe who???:coleman:

Hakeem is Top 8 GOATs guaranteed.
Kobe needed to be squized into Top 12 with that consolidation MVP in 16 yrs career.

you right. It is a laughable joke.

[NumberSix]

Kobe is not a top 10 all-time player.
It's at least debatable.

[LakersFan626]

Wait. Are there actually people that think Kobe is better than Hakeem? Like, really?

If you think Kobe is top 10, I got no problem with that. I don't, but it's certainly arguable. You can definitely make a case. But there's no fcking way on earth you can make a case for him being better than Hakeem. That's just laughably ridiculous.

Kobe is in the top 10.

Jordan
Bird
Magic
Kareem
Shaq
West
Russell
Hakeem
Duncan
Kobe

5 rings, 7 NBA Finals, 81 point game, beating an NBA finals team by himself after three quarters, 2008 MVP, two time finals MVP, numerous all NBA first team selections, numerous all-defensive first team selections, all star every year from his sophomore year to now, started all star game in his sophomore year despite being the Lakers' 6th man that year, two scoring titles, etc... way too many accolades to put him below the top 10.

Kobe's still the Lakers' best player as he's the best at creating his own shot, scores the most points, is the most clutch, and is the toughest mentally on the team despite having the shooting percentage of a volume scorer this year. Bynum's clearly the second best player on the team though.

[rodman91]

Kobe is in the top 10.

Jordan
Bird
Magic
Kareem
Shaq
West
Russell
Hakeem
Duncan
Kobe


Where is Wilt? And how come West is there while Wilt is not?

[Mr. Jabbar]

Now that Walton is gone it could be anyone really...

[White Mamba]

Now that Walton is gone it could be anyone really...
:roll: :roll: really sad thread:roll:

[DaHeezy]

If you think Kobe is top 10, I got no problem with that. I don't, but it's certainly arguable. You can definitely make a case. But there's no fcking way on earth you can make a case for him being better than Hakeem. That's just laughably ridiculous.


Dude, that's YOUR opinion. There are many valid reasons to think so. I'm going neither way, but it's laughable that you don't think it's debatable. To say it's laughable only exposes your disdain towards Kobe.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Is this seriously a thread? Who's the best player on the lakers, hmm let's see maybe the guy who has won the last 2 out of 3 FMVPS? Oh yeah.. that guy :kobe:

[Jotaro Durant]

bryant
bynum
gasol
sessions

[Dave3]

Is this seriously a thread? Who's the best player on the lakers, hmm let's see maybe the guy who has won the last 2 out of 3 FMVPS? Oh yeah.. that guy :kobe:
Look at OP. Same guy who's obsessively made Tmac, Yao, Dwight, Carter, Hedo, LeBron, Wade, and Dirk threads since 2008. He loves trolling people. He probably believes about 25% of his own posts.

[NBASTATMAN]

Dude, that's YOUR opinion. There are many valid reasons to think so. I'm going neither way, but it's laughable that you don't think it's debatable. To say it's laughable only exposes your disdain towards Kobe.


I don't believe kobe is as good as Hakeem either but it is debatable. Anyone who doesn't consider Kobe a top11 all time player is crazy. I project him finishing anywhere from 5-7.. Dude is just a baller even with all his faults... Gotta give him props:banghead:

[StateOfMind12]

Is this seriously a thread? Who's the best player on the lakers, hmm let's see maybe the guy who has won the last 2 out of 3 FMVPS? Oh yeah.. that guy :kobe:
:oldlol: What does Finals MVPs from 2010 and 2009 have anything to do with who is the best player in 2012? When will you Kobe fans stop living in the past and understand that Kobe is not even close to the same player he use to be. Kobe is not even the best player on his own team anymore.

I love how all the people who say Kobe is the best player on the Lakers have done absolutely nothing to back up their case. They just post a one-liner consisting of "LOL" or "What a Joke" and don't even post how or why the question in this thread is lol or joke worthy.

The truth is that there is no case for Kobe being the best player on his own team these days.

[Heavincent]

The truth is that there is no case for Kobe being the best player on his own team these days.

:oldlol: You're a lunatic.

[Fuhrer Hubbs]

:oldlol: You're a lunatic.

Want to list some reasons Kobe is better than Bynum TODAY?

Inb4 no evidence and just a "LOL" or a picture.

[bwink23]

If you want to say Kobe is still the best player, then whatever....but there's no doubt Bynum is the most integral part of this team.

[FatComputerNerd]

I don't look at accomplishments like number of titles when judging who is "top ten".

If basing it off how many rings people have, then I guess guys like Fisher and Horry are top 10 players of all time.

These guys were or are all more talented than Kobe, IMO.

Duncan, Shaq, Kareem, Hakeem, Bird, Magic, Wilt, Russel, Michael, Oscar, Julius

That's 11 guys who I consider to have been more talented than Kobe, and there are a few more names I could also add, including at least 1 more active player whose name I won't mention.

[LoneyROY7]

Razor Ramon.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I don't look at accomplishments like number of titles when judging who is "top ten".

If basing it off how many rings people have, then I guess guys like Fisher and Horry are top 10 players of all time.
retard

[FatComputerNerd]

retard

Homer

[LA_Showtime]

Sorry guys, it's still Kobe. He's not the player he used to be, that's for damn sure, but we'll only go as far as he takes us. It's obvious that Bynum's time is coming soon, though.

[Swaggin916]

its tough to say i think u could flip a coin between all of them. when kobe is on he is obv. the best but when he is off he is a detriment to the team. bynum is never a detriment to the team so would go with bynum. gasol just flys under the radar and continues to produce.

[rodman91]

http://hoopeduponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/andrew_bynum_playboy_mansion.jpg

Hail to the new king.

[WockaVodka]

Kobe

Bynum's performance as of late has been stellar. Kobe has had some bad shooting games. But if we're going into the playoffs and we had to pick one player to move on with while benching one, its Kobe.
It looks like Mike Brown disagreed with your call.

[TheBigVeto]

Pau Gasol.

[Soundwave]

Kobe for now, but not by much.

Next year I think he's going to have to probably learn to be the no.2 option more and more often.

[vinsanity2756]

bryant, even though he takes too much forced shots sometimes

[Rysio]

Retarded thread.

Kobe is easily the best player on the lakers. bynum has been the most consistent player but not the best.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Anyone that honestly thinks its Kobe Bryant knows NOTHING about basketball.

It isn't even close, Bynum controls the paint defensively and when given the ball in the post there is noone that can stop him. He gets much better looks at the basket compared to Kobe. Kobe lives off of tough shots these days and though he can make them sometimes it is not going to be consistant aside from his hot streaks. He doesn't get enough easy points for him to be a superstar anymore. He is just a shot chucker at this stage and a slow unathletic Allen Iverson. Defensively Kobe has fallen big time, while Bynum is impossible to post up and his length ****s up anyone that tries penetrating.

Bynums weaknesses are durability and the ability to handle double teams. Thus far he has been healthy all year. He still needs to handle double teams better, but, it is enough to overlook for him in favor of Kobe who is incredibly inefficient and really just costs his team possessions with all of his retarded shots rather than let go of his ego and give the ball to the superior players on his team that live in the post.

When healthy Bynum is EASILY better than Kobe. It isn't even debatable unless your a Kobe nutrider or someone who takes everything ESPN forces down their throats as fact.

Truth. 18.3 pts/12.3 reb/2.0 blk/59% FG/61+% TS on just 12.5 FGA/gm. Higher PER than Kobe. And these numbers don't even capture his full impact - he deters a ton of drives and alters a lot of shots with his presence and length alone. Bynum has had a greater impact on games than Kobe this season imo. You can tell that teams have no answer for him many times; he gets quality shots a result.

[tpols]

If you put Tyson Chandler on this Laker team he would put up 12/11 on 60+%FG with great defense all around the court.. slightly less rim protection but better perimeter/PnR D. Bynum is a top 10 player in the league but his play and stats come way too much off of everyone else's work to consider him the best on the team. How many of his points are scored off putbacks and alley oops where other people basically create his opportunities? How good is he at creating for himself and his teammates in the post? The past month or so he just started to get better at working from the post with help coming. Bynum isnt the type to get you points when you need them on a given possesion. He cant flip the switch and just takeover like we see Chris Paul do all the time.. or Dirk.. or Kobe. His production comes in the normal flow of the game when opportunities pop up randomly. Until he can deal with doubles better thats just how it will be.

[b4uc.23]

http://hoopeduponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/andrew_bynum_playboy_mansion.jpg

Hail to the new king.

This. :rockon:

[DMAVS41]

If you put Tyson Chandler on this Laker team he would put up 12/11 on 60+%FG with great defense all around the court.. slightly less rim protection but better perimeter/PnR D. Bynum is a top 10 player in the league but his play and stats come way too much off of everyone else's work to consider him the best on the team. How many of his points are scored off putbacks and alley oops where other people basically create his opportunities? How good is he at creating for himself and his teammates in the post? The past month or so he just started to get better at working from the post with help coming. Bynum isnt the type to get you points when you need them on a given possesion. He cant flip the switch and just takeover like we see Chris Paul do all the time.. or Dirk.. or Kobe. His production comes in the normal flow of the game when opportunities pop up randomly. Until he can deal with doubles better thats just how it will be.

This. Bynum is very good. Maybe top 10 or top 15...but he's not Kobe. He can't be the best player on a title winning team. That alone precludes him from it being even debatable.

But this might be a great sight for Lakers fans. Not only can you contend for a title this year, but you have a potential future franchise player in Bynum.

****ing Lakers...they always find a way.

[LABean]

:facepalm


Kobe.

/thread

Bunch of trolls trolling. :coleman:

[SlayerEnraged]

I'm not even gonna argue with how idiotic fans are. Idiots and their fg% theory muumbo jumbo. Bynum without all star Kobe and Gasol= a NOBODY.

[iDefend5]

Bynum without all star Kobe and Gasol= a NOBODY.
Link?

[SlayerEnraged]

Link?

Bynum isn't shit without Kobe. Kobe=08 Finals appearence without Bynum, 09 Finals victory with minor contributions from Bynum. 2010 Finals Bynum was completely injured and useless and still a title. Every1 always overrates and trys to make Kobe's teammates seem better than they really are. Hell I remember Gasol back in 07 getting man handled by Kg,Duncan, Nowitzki, etc and then ever since 08 he's the most skilled Pf in the game..LMAO! The idiocity of people now days. :facepalm :facepalm

[Godzuki]

If you put Tyson Chandler on this Laker team he would put up 12/11 on 60+%FG with great defense all around the court.. slightly less rim protection but better perimeter/PnR D. Bynum is a top 10 player in the league but his play and stats come way too much off of everyone else's work to consider him the best on the team. How many of his points are scored off putbacks and alley oops where other people basically create his opportunities? How good is he at creating for himself and his teammates in the post? The past month or so he just started to get better at working from the post with help coming. Bynum isnt the type to get you points when you need them on a given possesion. He cant flip the switch and just takeover like we see Chris Paul do all the time.. or Dirk.. or Kobe. His production comes in the normal flow of the game when opportunities pop up randomly. Until he can deal with doubles better thats just how it will be.


most players wouldn't even get those put backs or oops. do you realize how much Bynum towers over everyone where they just need to lob it near the basket and he'll get it? there is NOBODY in the league remotely capable of out jumping Bynum's reach with a decent pass into the post....

[Godzuki]

I'm not even gonna argue with how idiotic fans are. Idiots and their fg% theory muumbo jumbo. Bynum without all star Kobe and Gasol= a NOBODY.


lol he'd be hands down top Center in the league on any other team. yeah better than Dwight....

[StateOfMind12]

I'll take the guy that gets more points than FGA in games. If you are wondering who that player is that is Andrew Bynum. Kobe on the other hand has had about 9 games this season where he had more FGA than points and 11 games where he didn't have more points than FGA.

There is nothing Kobe does that separates himself from Bynum except volume scoring.

[MMM]

http://hoopeduponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/andrew_bynum_playboy_mansion.jpg

Hail to the new king.


hmm didn't he get injured after that pic??? I remember the same thing happening to Kenny Britt and this one;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_296w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/early-lead/StandingArt/Kenny-Britt.jpg

[Lebron23]

I'll take the guy that gets more points than FGA in games. If you are wondering who that player is that is Andrew Bynum. Kobe on the other hand has had about 9 games this season where he had more FGA than points and 11 games where he didn't have more points than FGA.

There is nothing Kobe does that separates himself from Bynum except volume scoring.


http://i44.tinypic.com/2uos0p3.gif

[Bladers]

Bynum 17-44 as First Option!

[game3524]

Bynum 17-44 as First Option!

:oldlol:

This thread is almost as bad as the "Gasol is best player on the Lakers!" after the 2010 NBA Finals.

[rodman91]

20.5 ppg 14.5 rpg but %FG sucks though.

[SpecialQue]

Kobe ain't even my favorite Laker, and he chucks waaaaaaaay too much, but you've got to be a complete fvcking retard not to see that there's a CLEAR difference in the team when he's on the court and when he's not.

[Bladers]

This is a legitimate question these days whether people specifically Kobe fans want to believe or not.

Who do you guys honestly think is the best player on the Lakers?

For me, I would honestly say Andrew Bynum is the best player on the Lakers. As much as I love and respect Kobe, his time is done and he is no longer the best player in the league nor is he even the best player on his own team anymore.

Bynum is practically better than Kobe at like everything these days. The only real advantage I would give Kobe is that he is the better passer/playmaker and can handle double teams better. Kobe is an inconsistent and inefficient scorer these days while Bynum is the opposite. Bynum is incredibly consistent and incredibly efficient with his scoring.

how is this guy not banned?

[RazorBaLade]

i broke out laughing

[talkingconch]

this guy is comparing a big man's FG% to a guards

Not sure why he isnt banned yet

[Dave3]

this guy is comparing a big man's FG% to a guards

Not sure why he isnt banned yet
What's the point? He's been banned maybe 40 times over and is relentless in making alternate accounts and coming back. Is there even a point? Best medicine is to ignore.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Looks like Bynum to me, although Kobe still takes twice as many shots as he does.