durant is an athletic dirk

[inclinerator]

thats scary

[Cowboy Thunder]

scary that

[MavsPoke]

scary that be

[no pun intended]

scary that be crazy

[Real Men Wear Green]

I've been wondering why they aren't compared more often for a while now. They aren't completely the same but no one else at the height of seven feet has been a dominant scorer through perimeter scoring. KD can't rebound as well while Nowitzki doesn't show the ballhandling but overall neither guy has a better comparison.

[FindingTim]

man I was SO wrong about Durant. I liked him a lot at Texas, but after his first season with Seattle I was convinced he would become a glorified Jerry Stackhouse chucker. Now he makes a good case for best player in the league.

BEAST

[SwooshReturns]

He's either a poor man's Tracy McGrady (2003, 2004)

Or a rich man's Dirk Nowtizki

Unlike Dirk he does other things besides shoot. He handles the ball much better, and last night as an example can at times make nice passes getting the other guy involved.

[gengiskhan]

long arms: check

insane wingspan: check

good jumpshot: check

non-german race: check

big hands & uncircumcized big *****: check :coleman:

dorky disproportionate lanky figure: check

insane pull-up jumper anywhere inside half court: check

takes way too many 3-pt attempts for front court player: check

Kills or sweeps kobe everytime in LA match ups: check:biggums:


Yep: Durant is Black Dirk in disguise.

[OKCThunderUP]

He can put the ball on the floor better than Dirk ever could and plays better defense than Dirk ever did as well. If he stays healthy he's going to be one of the all-time greats.

[OneBadUsername]

He can put the ball on the floor better than Dirk ever could and plays better defense than Dirk ever did as well. If he stays healthy he's going to be one of the all-time greats.

I agree and he is still getting entirely better every year.

[SwooshReturns]

Kills or sweeps kobe everytime in LA match ups
They lost to the Lakers in 2010, and Durant played like booty.

:facepalm

[miles berg]

He's either a poor man's Tracy McGrady (2003, 2004)

Or a rich man's Dirk Nowtizki

Unlike Dirk he does other things besides shoot. He handles the ball much better, and last night as an example can at times make nice passes getting the other guy involved.

LOL Dirk is better than TMac ever was at any point in his career.

Silliest thing I've ever read.

Durant, also, is better than TMac ever was.

[SwooshReturns]

LOL Dirk is better than TMac ever was at any point in his career.
Not really ...

[FindingTim]

LOL Dirk is better than TMac ever was at any point in his career.

Silliest thing I've ever read.

Durant, also, is better than TMac ever was.

I LOVE Dirk, but you're sleeping on prime T-Mac. At his peak, VERY few can compare. dude was amazing.
Tracy McGrady 02-03': 32, 6 and 5 on 46% shooting, 38% from 3

all while being the prime focus of every opposing defense. and his teammates:

Darrell Armstrong, Pat Burke, Andrew DeClercq, Pat Garrity, Gordan Giricek, Drew Gooden
Horace Grant (corpse), Grant Hill (human cast), Ryan Humphrey
Steven Hunter, Shawn Kemp (corpse), Mike Miller, Olumide Oyedeji
Jeryl Sasser, Jacque Vaughn, Chris Whitney

[28renyoy]

I LOVE Dirk, but you're sleeping on prime T-Mac. At his peak, VERY few can compare. dude was amazing.

The guy was a flat out chucker

[blablabla]

The guy was a flat out chucker
you're a flat out idiot if you think that

[highwhey]

The guy was a flat out chucker
how stupid do you have to be to make an alternate account and attempt to lie about it despite using basically the same name but backwards? :roll:

28renyoy=joyner82

your stupidity is astronomical.

do you list the drawing of "paris on a wall" on your resume?

[FindingTim]

The guy was a flat out chucker
look at the Magic roster on page 1-- he NEEDED to be selfish. Was he supposed to create a McGrady/DeClerq dynamic duo?

[28renyoy]

how stupid do you have to be to make an alternate account and attempt to lie about it despite using basically the same name but backwards? :roll:

28renyoy=joyner82

your stupidity is astronomical.

do you list the drawing of "paris on a wall" on your resume?

joyner82 account was banned you imbecile. this isn't a "sock" or dummy account, it's the only one I use

McGrady is a career 43 FG% 52 TS% shooter. He had 1 "grand" season where his team won 44 games and lost in the 1st round of the playoffs. Other than that the guy was never a top flight(~5) player in the league.

[X] chucker

[R.I.P.]

thats scary

Dirk was a great athlete, when he was younger. Dude is just old now. It

[IamRAMBO24]

Durant is overrated.

[Shade8780]

very scary

[highwhey]

joyner82 account was banned you imbecile. this isn't a "sock" or dummy account, it's the only one I use

McGrady is a career 43 FG% 52 TS% shooter. He had 1 "grand" season where his team won 44 games and lost in the 1st round of the playoffs. Other than that the guy was never a top flight(~5) player in the league.

[X] chucker
"I can make any girl fall in love with me"

i have more money than you, this is totally my picture.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J-pmnvSehtY/TiCecPiJ52I/AAAAAAAAAFg/9df-Yh_KKY8/s1600/money.jpg

can you draw paris on my wall too?

[StateOfMind12]

Kevin Durant's game resembles Larry Bird closer to any other player mentioned in this thread.

Kevin Durant is better than Tracy McGrady ever was. lol at at that comparison.

[creepingdeath]

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Dirk was a great athlete, when he was younger. Dude is just old now. It

[SwooshReturns]

Kevin Durant is better than Tracy McGrady ever was.
You and your ridiculously stupid disdain for T-Mac clouds any sense of objective judgement.

[Stern]

Lol at RG comparing Durant to Bird.

[StateOfMind12]

You and your ridiculously stupid disdain for T-Mac clouds any sense of objective judgement.
Durant was better than Tmac ever was.

I would like for you to even attempt to prove me otherwise.

Durant was far more accomplished than Tmac ever was, a far better scorer than Tmac ever was, a far better rebounder and defender than Tmac ever was.

So what does Tmac have over Durant again? Playmaking/passing which Durant is also really good at himself? So Tmac is better than Durant even though Tmac is only better than Durant at one thing and that one thing isn't even that important? :oldlol:

I guess Tmac is also better at losing. I don't think Durant is bad enough to lose with an elite big man and the best Center in the league so props to Tmac.

[28renyoy]

If b4 T-Mac>Durant because he averaged 32 ppg in 1 season...where he took 24 shots per game and was less efficient than Durant was at 20 years old

Give Durant 24 shots per game and he's at ~35 ppg

[Jotaro Durant]

i can see some similarities. i always hate nowitzki because im a lifelong garnett fan but always respect his game.

both clutch, similar offense styles, but durant already better defender than nowitzki was

:roll: :roll: :roll: ppl still compare durant to mcgrady in 2012:roll:
get over it this season he clearly surpassed him not even debate anymore.

[chazzy]

If b4 T-Mac>Durant because he averaged 32 ppg in 1 season...where he took 24 shots per game and was less efficient than Durant was at 20 years old

Give Durant 24 shots per game and he's at ~35 ppg
Perimeter defenses were tougher back then though

[StateOfMind12]

Perimeter defenses were tougher back then though
If we were to compare who was better relative to their league averages, Durant is still better. Face it, Tmac has no argument over Durant at like anything.

[DMAVS41]

Healthy T-Mac is being hugely under-rated if people think that Durant and Dirk are on a different level.

The guy was a stud....he was basically a bigger version of Kobe back in his prime.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Healthy T-Mac is being hugely under-rated if people think that Durant and Dirk are on a different level.

The guy was a stud....he was basically a bigger version of Kobe back in his prime.

From 2001-2003/04, his peak (more so the 2002-03 season which was unreal), I agree. People overrate the shit out of his prime though.

[28renyoy]

Perimeter defenses were tougher back then though
WRONG

2003
average FG% 44.2

2012
average FG% 44.6

Virtually the exact same

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Except Dirk is the better shooter, the better rebounder, plays better in the post. Except for those things, they are just alike.

[StateOfMind12]

Dirk use to get comparisons to Bird too so I do think it is a fair to compare Durant to Bird. I just think Durant plays more similar to Bird than he does to Dirk.

It is going to be scary for the league when Durant starts going to the post more and his improves his post-game more. Durant's post game is already pretty good and better than LeBron's post game ever was but it is just that Durant doesn't go to to the post that often. Durant had a terrific post-game in College, he was one of the few players I actually followed in College. I'm not a big College basketball fan but he was one of the few I followed along with John Wall.

[SwooshReturns]

Dirk use to get comparisons to Bird too
Just because of the skin tone.

[28renyoy]

Except Dirk is the better shooter, the better rebounder, plays better in the post. Except for those things, they are just alike.

Ya...about that

In his MVP year Dirk averaged 24.6/8.9/3.4/.7/.8 on 52.9 eFG%

this year Durant is averaging 27.9/8.1/3.6/1.5/1.2 on 55.2 eFG%

[DMAVS41]

WRONG

2003
average FG% 44.2

2012
average FG% 44.6

Virtually the exact same

The game was played more inside out back then. The fg% comparison isn't logical because teams now play far more perimeter oriented because of the new rules.

[DMAVS41]

Ya...about that

In his MVP year Dirk averaged 24.6/8.9/3.4/.7/.8 on 52.9 eFG%

this year Durant is averaging 27.9/8.1/3.6/1.5/1.2 on 55.2 eFG%

And Dirk led a far less talented team to 67 wins....that was mainly why Dirk won MVP...not his numbers

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

a...about that

In his MVP year Dirk averaged 24.6/8.9/3.4/.7/.8 on 52.9 eFG%

this year Durant is averaging 27.9/8.1/3.6/1.5/1.2 on 55.2 eFG%

Um, I said shooter. Dirk is better at mid range, from the 3 point line (and is basicvally the same at the free throw line on a lot more volume)....... Dirk is the superior shooter.

And yeah, let's base it on one year. **eye roll**

[28renyoy]

The game was played more inside out back then. The fg% comparison isn't logical because teams now play far more perimeter oriented because of the new rules.

2003 DRT-103.6
2012 DRT-104.4

Ya HUGE difference there :bowdown:

And there wasn't a Miami or OKC team shitting all over the league with a 52 eFG% skewing the stats in 2003

[midatlantic09]

How you compare Durant to Dirk? Durant is far better than Dirk.

Durant can shoot, has excellent handles, can see the floor, and plays decent defense. He's a far superior player compared to Dirk (who is just a jumpshooter).

[MavAlbert]

Not really ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NbKLaXUDH0

[DMAVS41]

2003 DRT-103.6
2012 DRT-104.4

Ya HUGE difference there :bowdown:

And there wasn't a Miami or OKC team shitting all over the league with a 52 eFG% skewing the stats in 2003

How many times must we learn why defensive rating compared across years isn't logical.

If you aren't willing to concede that its easier to score from the perimeter now then that is fine. But it shouldn't be a debate. How much easier should be the debate.

But its definitely easier....anyone without a huge bias could tell you that.

[Celtics4ever]

Healthy T-Mac is being hugely under-rated if people think that Durant and Dirk are on a different level.

The guy was a stud....he was basically a bigger version of Kobe back in his prime.

Dirk had one great season. He has been a choker for the most of his career. Seems like he lost all motivation after that one ring.

[chazzy]

WRONG

2003
average FG% 44.2

2012
average FG% 44.6

Virtually the exact same

2003 DRT-103.6
2012 DRT-104.4

Ya HUGE difference there :bowdown:

And there wasn't a Miami or OKC team shitting all over the league with a 52 eFG% skewing the stats in 2003
LOL at this. Everyone knows league-wide OFFENSES are down because of the compressed schedule/lockout.

Avg offensive rating 2011 - 107.2
Avg offensive rating 2012 - 104.2

You think defenses suddenly got better this year??

[creepingdeath]

How you compare Durant to Dirk? Durant is far better than Dirk.

Durant can shoot, has excellent handles, can see the floor, and plays decent defense. He's a far superior player compared to Dirk (who is just a jumpshooter).
People still say that? Almost gets as old as the Irk remarks. :sleeping

[28renyoy]

2003 TS% 51.9
2012 TS% 52.4

:bowdown:

[chips93]

i dont see the comparison tbh

dirk is far more of a traditional post player than people say. few of his touches come outside the 3pt line, and few of his touches come off of curls and screens, unlike durant

durant is a pretty traditional sf, just that hes huge, and more of a jump shooter than most sfs, more like a sg

two pretty unique players

[ballinhun8]

A thread full of numbers that dont even show up in the box score.



Only on ISH........and John Hollinger articles.

[chazzy]

2003 TS% 51.9
2012 TS% 52.4

:bowdown:
Keep trying with this Foxnews-esque spin, no one's stupid enough to believe league defenses suddenly improved to pre-2005 levels in one season :oldlol:

[chips93]

How many times must we learn why defensive rating compared across years isn't logical.


i get why there are problems comparing teams from different years, using this criteria, but if we are comparing the league at a whole from now to then i dont see why there is an issue

:confusedshrug:

[chips93]

A thread full of numbers that dont even show up in the box score.



Only on ISH........and John Hollinger articles.

id love to hear your argument against TS%, or basic points per 100 possession stats

im all ears

[SwooshReturns]

id love to hear your argument against TS%
True shooting percentage is remedial. Hey, let me combine shots where there are no defenders, with actual game shots with defenders and make them into one "true shooting" percentage.

[iDefend5]

True shooting percentage is remedial. Hey, let me combine shots where there are no defenders, with actual game shots with defenders and make them into one "true shooting" percentage.
It's a skill to be better at making shots with no defenders than others though.

[SwooshReturns]

It's a skill to be better at making shots with no defenders than others though.
Where did I say otherwise. It certainly takes less skill and ability at the professional level to make baskets with no defenders. And it is so different that combining the two forms of shooting is absolutely pointless, and stupid. Seperate entities, completely.

[iDefend5]

Where did I say otherwise. It certainly takes less skill and ability at the professional level to make baskets with no defenders. And it is so different that combining the two forms of shooting is absolutely pointless, and stupid. Seperate entities, completely.
Because you still get points off of it. If you want to take a look at skill and shit then look at FG% and EFG% which is probably what you already do.

[pauk]

He is more closer to something like a 6'11 Reggie Miller.... (yes thats a compliment, Reggie was my favorite player of all time)

[chazzy]

He is more closer to something like a 6'11 Reggie Miller.... (yes thats a compliment, Reggie was my favorite player of all time)
"Skeletor" a little better than you thought eh? :lol

[Inactive]

Where did I say otherwise. It certainly takes less skill and ability at the professional level to make baskets with no defenders. And it is so different that combining the two forms of shooting is absolutely pointless, and stupid. Seperate entities, completely.No, it's not. Combining the two enables you to more accurately asses how efficiently a player scored.

The two forms of scoring are not "so different". Points are points, possessions are possessions. The team with the higher TS% wins(all else being equal), even if they have a lower EFG%. The players that had a higher TS% scored more efficiently, even if they had a lower EFG%.

[Jotaro Durant]

He is more closer to something like a 6'11 Reggie Miller.... (yes thats a compliment, Reggie was my favorite player of all time)
except reggie was only good for offball altho prolly greatest offball scorer ever.

[rodman91]

He's either a poor man's Tracy McGrady (2003, 2004)

Or a rich man's Dirk Nowtizki

Unlike Dirk he does other things besides shoot. He handles the ball much better, and last night as an example can at times make nice passes getting the other guy involved.

Nowitzki is top 2-5 powerforward of all time. Rich man's Nowitzki would be Larry Bird probably.

[fos]

I think people underrate young Dirk's athleticism... He was super quick and took guys off the dribble a lot when he was younger.

[pauk]

"Skeletor" a little better than you thought eh? :lol

what? reggie was a skeletor... so is durant... skin on bones..
im just joking... even tho its somewhat true.. :D

and no... Durant is not better than i thought, he is exactly what i thought he was since last year and that is according to me probably the 2nd best player in the NBA... a great shooter... and i have always loved the guy

Im preparing to even call him the "best player in the NBA" depending on how he (and respectively lebron does) where it matters.... playoffs....

[pauk]

except reggie was only good for offball altho prolly greatest offball scorer ever.

Watch him in the late 80s to early 90s.... he was taking people of the dribble, dunking, creating shots, dropping 57 points, with ease... besides, imagine that Reggie being 6'11... i think this is exactly how he would have played, like Durant... but personality wise they are completely different imo :D Reggie was one of the best trashtalkers ever

[tontoz]

Durant is a small forward version of Dirk, quicker with better ball handling skills.

Durant is not very athletic. He is very weak, not very fast and his vertical of 33.5" is the same as Shelden Williams.

[MavAlbert]

Durant is a small forward version of Dirk, quicker with better ball handling skills.

Durant is not very athletic. He is very weak, not very fast and his vertical of 33.5" is the same as Shelden Williams.

wizards fans shouldnt be allowed to talk about basketball

[inclinerator]

Durant is a small forward version of Dirk, quicker with better ball handling skills.

Durant is not very athletic. He is very weak, not very fast and his vertical of 33.5" is the same as Shelden Williams.
he is very fast, and he's quicker than i thought

[maybeshewill13]

what? reggie was a skeletor... so is durant... skin on bones..
im just joking... even tho its somewhat true.. :D

and no... Durant is not better than i thought, he is exactly what i thought he was since last year and that is according to me probably the 2nd best player in the NBA... a great shooter... and i have always loved the guy

Im preparing to even call him the "best player in the NBA" depending on how he (and respectively lebron does) where it matters.... playoffs....


Common man.. we all know you'd never admit that. :oldlol:

[MASH Transit]

Durant is a small forward version of Dirk, quicker with better ball handling skills.

Durant is not very athletic. He is very weak, not very fast and his vertical of 33.5" is the same as Shelden Williams.

Yes, most 6'11 people with 7'5 wing spans possess the athletic ability to play on the perimeter. That athletic freak, Blake Griffin is it? I imagine he possesses the ability to play the perimeter and run the floor as Durant does. Now that I think about it, he could play the 3 spot with relative ease.

[SwooshReturns]

Nowitzki is top 2-5 powerforward of all time. Rich man's Nowitzki would be Larry Bird probably.
Cause they're both white? They played nothing alike. Bird could do it all, Dirk is limited as hell. And he's still Shook Ones #41, to me. Bird was the master of clutch.

[SwooshReturns]

(yes thats a compliment, Reggie was my favorite player of all time)
Stop it ... LeBron is quite clearly your favorite player.

How could someone with your basketball sensibilities and what you enjoy out of LeBron, and can't shut up about, really ... reflect onto Reggie Miller?

Reggie could move w/o the ball, and shoot. That's it.

He was also clutch. LeBron is the anti-clutch.

[iDefend5]

Stop it ... LeBron is quite clearly your favorite player.

How could someone with your basketball sensibilities and what you enjoy out of LeBron, and can't shut up about, really ... reflect onto Reggie Miller?

Reggie could move w/o the ball, and shoot. That's it.

He was also clutch. LeBron is the anti-clutch.
in b4 pauk posts charts and stats about how Lebron is clutch.

[SwooshReturns]

he was taking people of the dribble
Reggie Miller never took people off the dribble, that wasn't his game.

Poor Mitch Richmond. Easily the 90's 2nd or 3rd greatest SG / Combo Guard behind MJ and Penny Hardaway.

You replace prime Mitch Richmond for Reggie Miller and the Pacers probably get to the Finals in 1994.

[iDefend5]

Reggie Miller never took people off the dribble, that wasn't his game.

Poor Mitch Richmond. Easily the 90's 2nd or 3rd greatest SG / Combo Guard behind MJ and Penny Hardaway.

You replace prime Mitch Richmond for Reggie Miller and the Pacers probably get to the Finals in 1994.
So how was he the 2nd or 3rd greatest SG if Richmond was better?

[SwooshReturns]

So how was he the 2nd or 3rd greatest SG if Richmond was better?
I'm saying Mitch was probably the 2nd or 3rd greatest SG of his era. Depending on how you classify Penny Hardaway. I personally thought and viewed him as a combo guard. So I rank Mitch 3rd ... I rank Reggie Miller behind him.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Durant is a small forward version of Dirk, quicker with better ball handling skills.

Durant is not very athletic. He is very weak, not very fast and his vertical of 33.5" is the same as Shelden Williams.
He would lose a footrace to most pgs but for a seven footer he's very fast and also agile. A 33 inch vert on a 7 footer that moves the way KD can is a weapon. When he gets older and slower he may want to add some weight to play the 4 but for now he's almost perfectly suited to be a 3.

[Balla_Status]

How you compare Durant to Dirk? Durant is far better than Dirk.

Durant can shoot, has excellent handles, can see the floor, and plays decent defense. He's a far superior player compared to Dirk (who is just a jumpshooter).

Where was Durant to lead his team last WCF?

[MASH Transit]

Where was Durant to lead his team last WCF?

Where was Dirk when he was 22? Certainly wasn't the WCF's.

[maybeshewill13]

Where was Dirk when he was 22? Certainly wasn't the WCF's.

Lol this. People completely forget Durant is 22 years old and has only been in the league a few years.

[SwooshReturns]

The age argument is garbage. This Durant's 5th year in the league.

[MASH Transit]

The age argument is garbage. This Durant's 5th year in the league.

Why wasn't Dirk drafted when he was 18? Moreover, where was Dirk in his 5th season? Certainly wasn't the Western Conference Finals.

[ralph_i_el]

How you compare Durant to Dirk? Durant is far better than Dirk.

Durant can shoot, has excellent handles, can see the floor, and plays decent defense. He's a far superior player compared to Dirk (who is just a jumpshooter).

:facepalm
Go watch some young dirk. young dirk=white durant.

[SwooshReturns]

Why wasn't Dirk drafted when he was 18?
Because he chose not to enter the NBA draft ...


Moreover, where was Dirk in his 5th season? Certainly wasn't the Western Conference Finals.
Nah, cause he was busy battling it out w/ the Shaq / Kobe Lakers, the Duncan / Robinson / Parker Spurs, and the Webber Kings.

Whose Durant's WCF competition again?

[MASH Transit]

Because he chose not to enter the NBA draft ...

Because he wasn't projected #2.



Nah, cause he was busy battling it out w/ the Shaq / Kobe Lakers, the Duncan / Robinson / Parker Spurs, and the Webber Kings.

Whose Durant's WCF competition again?

Duncan/Parker/Gino

Kobe/Pau/Bynum

Dirk/Marion/Kidd

Paul/Griffin/Butler

Z-Bo/Gasol/Gay

[TheBigVeto]

He's either a poor man's Tracy McGrady (2003, 2004)

Or a rich man's Dirk Nowtizki

Unlike Dirk he does other things besides shoot. He handles the ball much better, and last night as an example can at times make nice passes getting the other guy involved.

LOL @ this hater.

Dirk >> Durant (this may change in the future) >> any version of T-Mac.

[kentatm]

Why wasn't Dirk drafted when he was 18? Moreover, where was Dirk in his 5th season? Certainly wasn't the Western Conference Finals.

:lol

actually, he did make it to the WCFs in his 5th year but he went down in game 3 with a knee injury vs the Spurs.

[MASH Transit]

:lol

actually, he did make it to the WCFs in his 5th year but he went down in game 3 with a knee injury vs the Spurs.

That was his 6th year.

[Collie]

Dirk is primarily a high post player, and is a more accurate midrange shooter. Aside from the fact that they are tall and can shoot, I don't see the similarities.

If anything, Dirk plays offense more like 96-98 MJ.

[MavAlbert]

Why wasn't Dirk drafted when he was 18? Moreover, where was Dirk in his 5th season? Certainly wasn't the Western Conference Finals.


might want to check your fact there chief..

dirk was in the WCF against the spurs in his 5th year

[MavAlbert]

That was his 6th year.


WRONG

02-03 season was Dirks 5th

[Celtics4ever]

He is more closer to something like a 6'11 Reggie Miller.... (yes thats a compliment, Reggie was my favorite player of all time)

LeBron is on the decline. You better choose another favorite player now. I feel sorry for LeBron. Diude couldnt do shlt in his prime. Nothing to prove, but empty stat padding his whole career.

[knightfall88]

7ft Kobe

[knickswin]

Andrea Bargnani is most similar to Dirk. Durant isn't that similar, although I do think he should take some leaves out of Dirk's book about developing a post-up game.

Durant to me is an overgrown shooting guard. Dirk can shoot the trey, but he is much more post based than durant. dirk's slower and can't create his own shot as easily, but he's also smarter and more fundamental.

[MASH Transit]

Andrea Bargnani is most similar to Dirk. Durant isn't that similar, although I do think he should take some leaves out of Dirk's book about developing a post-up game.

Durant to me is an overgrown shooting guard. Dirk can shoot the trey, but he is much more post based than durant. dirk's slower and can't create his own shot as easily, but he's also smarter and more fundamental.

How's he smarter? More fundamental?


Also, Durant has the 30th ranked post game in the league.(ranks determined by percentage of possessions scored in post situations)

[knickswin]

How's he smarter? More fundamental?


Also, Durant has the 30th ranked post game in the league.(ranks determined by percentage of possessions scored in post situations)


durant has posted up a lot this year, but it's a little different than being a post guy like dirk. durant posts up more in the mid range area than in the post, plus he mostly just does it when he has a mismatch guarding him and looks almost exclusively to score. thunder don't run anything through durant in the post.

durant is a good bad shot maker. so is dirk, but he doesn't start doing that ish until the fourth quarter when games are tight. for the most part he posts up and triple threats if he's isolating and plays a lot of pick and pop. durant likes to use crossover and jukes to create his shots, and a lot of his game is unconventional looking.

[STATUTORY]

He's either a poor man's Tracy McGrady (2003, 2004)

Or a rich man's Dirk Nowtizki


:coleman: luke walton is a poor man's tracy mcgrady not durant

[BlackVVaves]

Cause they're both white? They played nothing alike. Bird could do it all, Dirk is limited as hell. And he's still Shook Ones #41, to me. Bird was the master of clutch.

He took Lebron, Durant, Wade, and Kobe out in the SAME post season.

Let that sit for a while.

He earned that ring, and shed all the "soft" antics people like you threw at him. Most free throws in a game without missing, which GREATLY aided in a playoff game where Durant dropped 40+ and was prepared to win the game.

Enough with the bullshit.

[vinsanity2756]

nowitzki is a better shooter than durant c'mon now. in fact dirk posts up more than durant also. they are both great scorers though.

[RRR3]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: @ people comparing Durant to peak T-Mac. T-Mac at 100% would be the best player in the NBA today. Durant's bitch ass wishes he could go hard like T-Mac did, he just shoots jumpers all day:facepalm T-Mac>>>Durant the fake tough guy

[28renyoy]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: @ people comparing Durant to peak T-Mac. T-Mac at 100% would be the best player in the NBA today. Durant's bitch ass wishes he could go hard like T-Mac did, he just shoots jumpers all day:facepalm T-Mac>>>Durant the fake tough guy

During T-Macs 3 year peak he averaged 28/6/5 on 44 FG% 54 TS%

You're an idiot

[28renyoy]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm gross

Wonderful rebuttal

[bizil]

See I think Dirk is more like a Bob McAdoo type guy. Which is a PF who has the shooting ability and skillset of a SF. I do think McAdoo was a better defender and rebounder than Dirk though. Both men revolutionized the PF (and in Mac's case the center spot when played it in those Buffalo years) and Dirk brought that style to another level being 7 foot.

KD in my book has to be around 6'11 and is really redefining the SF spot. He has the agility, athletic ability, and handles of a guard or swingman. So while Dirk had the scoring skillset of a swing guy, he doesn't have the athletic ability, handle, etc or a swingman. If anything, KD is a mix of T Mac and the Iceman in my book. Dirk is more a guy u want playing PF, even though he played lots of SF early in his career. KD is a guy u want playing SF. But KD is such a beast he can swing to SG and even some PF.