Amare Stoudemire out indefinitely with bulging disk

[bagelred]

Barbara Barker ‏ @meanbarb


"Don't know" says Woodson when asked if Anar'e would be ready for playoffs #knicks
Barbara Barker ‏ @meanbarb


Knicks say as of now Amar'e won't have surgery.

2m Howard Beck Howard Beck ‏ @HowardBeckNYT

Of note: Amare has a bulging disk. Different from herniated disk, which is what Baron Davis had.

3m Barbara Barker Barbara Barker ‏ @meanbarb
No timetable for A'mare. #thisisnotgood


Oy.

[FlawlessVictory]

He was starting to play a lot better lately as well... On the plus side, their defense is going to get a lot better with Jefferies getting more minutes... on the other hand it probably means Melo taking a few more jumpers every game... hmm

[Haymaker]

Ouch

[guy]

He's had a really good career, but I think at this point he's done being an all-star. He's on the career trajectory of someone like Jermaine O'Neal i.e player out of high school that put up big numbers only for injuries to take him out from all-star level in his late 20s/early 30s.

[LABean]

"Boy, just what we needed. Because of this [Insert Excuse] the Knicks will not win [Insert Delusional Statement]!.

[iDunk]

What does that mean? Is he likely out for the rest of the season? What other players have had bulging discs?

[DuMa]

perfect time for melo to step up with his bulging gut

[Real Men Wear Green]

Who does NY start at PF now? Jeffries?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

"Boy, just what we needed. Because of this [Insert Excuse] the Knicks will not win [Insert Delusional Statement]!.
:roll:

[Scoooter]

Jeffries is hurt too I think. We could probably go small and start Melo at PF.

[SpecialQue]

At first I misread "disk" and was like :biggums:

[Heavincent]

perfect time for melo to step up with his bulging gut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

[Stern]

There goes another well spent $100 million by Dolan.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Jeffries is hurt too I think. We could probably go small and start Melo at PF.
If there's a plus side there isn't a smaller team out there than Milwaukee. Melo is about as big as Drew Gooden.

[niko]

Who does NY start at PF now? Jeffries?
I'd start melo or novak

[bagelred]

I'd start melo or novak

For some reason, Knicks felt the need to keep Bibby over Balkman when they added Smith to roster. Didn't make sense then, and it's obvious now. With Amare and Jeffries out, Knicks need size.

Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooo Jerome Jordan. This is YOUR TIME!!!!!...........gulp................

[highwhey]

:( noooooooooo
now i don't have any reason to watch the knicks. boooo.

[cteach111]

kind of a big blow to the Knicks and their playoff hopes

unless linsanity works against the legit teams in the league.

[ClutchOver9000]

god, I knew Amare wouldn't hold up...he was bound to get injured sooner or later, its the nature of the beast. Especially when the Suns let him go because they knew this.

Ever since he threw his back out on dunking in practice which subsequently led him to missing the Celtics playoff series last year, I was like: "well, thats 100 million dollars down the drain"...

[Celtic_Pride]

About time Carmelo does something special

[CelticBaller]

"Boy, just what we needed. Because of this [Insert Excuse] the Knicks will not win [Insert Delusional Statement]!.
:oldlol:

[ClutchOver9000]

its all on Melo's shoulders now

[iDunk]

http://i39.tinypic.com/2h85nw0.jpg

[Real Men Wear Green]

kind of a big blow to the Knicks and their playoff hopes
It certainly hurts but "out indefinitely" is not the same as done for the season. He may return after a few games, who knows? Plus as good as STAT is offensively he can be a minus on D and rebounding, and there is the possibility that Melo plays up to potential and Lin is now freer and more needed to score. But if they can waive Bibby and bring in a body they should.

[highwhey]

http://i39.tinypic.com/2h85nw0.jpg
:roll:

[BlazersDozen]

At first I misread "disk" and was like :biggums:
http://www.sugarslam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/amare-stoudemire-naked-ESPN-magazine-NSFW.jpg
:roll:

[Rnbizzle]

its all on Melo's shoulders now
He's gonna prove all the haters wrong too. :bowdown:

[iDunk]

I'm still confident though. Look at the Mavs, they lost Caron Butler who was their second leading scorer and they still won the championship. Knicks have the Mavs depth, they just need to believe, the Knicks can still be deadly.

I'm sure Chandler has already mentioned this to the team as an example.

[BlazersDozen]

I'm still confident though. Look at the Mavs, they lost Caron Butler who was their second leading scorer and they still won the championship. Knicks have the Mavs depth, they just need to believe, the Knicks can still be deadly.

I'm sure Chandler has already mentioned this to the team as an example.
Do you really believe that?

[ihatetimthomas]

I'm still confident though. Look at the Mavs, they lost Caron Butler who was their second leading scorer and they still won the championship. Knicks have the Mavs depth, they just need to believe, the Knicks can still be deadly.

I'm sure Chandler has already mentioned this to the team as an example.

But Knicks don't have the cohesiveness and team mentality that the Mavs had. I think that is the biggest reason the Mavs won. They had extremely good team chemistry. Cant say the same for Knicks.

[ClutchOver9000]

He's gonna prove all the haters wrong too. :bowdown:

he better or soon he'll end up like Marbury....crying over making it to the finals in effing China...

[AMISTILLILL]

I'm still confident though. Look at the Mavs, they lost Caron Butler who was their second leading scorer and they still won the championship. Knicks have the Mavs depth, they just need to believe, the Knicks can still be deadly.

I'm sure Chandler has already mentioned this to the team as an example.

You're absolutely out of your mind. First round exit if they even make it to the playoffs.

[mlh1981]

I read the title too quickly.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

This Is Why The Knicks Never Win!!!!

Theres Only One Fkn Way To Rebuild In This League....through The God Damn Draft!

We Will Never Win Because Dolan Does Everything In His Power To Avoid Drafting A Young Superstar That Will Carry Your Team For 10+ Years Like Derrick Rose.

God Damnit Im So Tired Of This Fkn Team!

[goldenryan]

"Boy, just what we needed. Because of this Bulging disk the Knicks will not win the Eastern Confence Finals!.

Only [Lin] can save the knicks now.

[ClutchOver9000]

This Is Why The Knicks Never Win!!!!

Theres Only One Fkn Way To Rebuild In This League....through The God Damn Draft!

We Will Never Win Because Dolan Does Everything In His Power To Avoid Drafting A Young Superstar That Will Carry Your Team For 10+ Years Like Derrick Rose.

God Damnit Im So Tired Of This Fkn Team!

Iman Shumpert the next big thing... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

I kid, I kid......

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Iman Shumpert the next big thing... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

I kid, I kid......

Shump in all honesty will be like JR Smith with lock down man to man defensive skills... Either that or Jamal Crawford with defensive skills. Either is fine for me coming from a late first rounder

[Tmuston Beltics]

"Boy, just what we needed. Because of this [Insert Excuse] the Knicks will not win [Insert Delusional Statement]!.

:biggums:

[ihatetimthomas]

This Is Why The Knicks Never Win!!!!

Theres Only One Fkn Way To Rebuild In This League....through The God Damn Draft!

We Will Never Win Because Dolan Does Everything In His Power To Avoid Drafting A Young Superstar That Will Carry Your Team For 10+ Years Like Derrick Rose.

God Damnit Im So Tired Of This Fkn Team!

Sorry to say it, but when he first signed his contract, I expected him to be one of the worst deals in the league at the very latest year 3 in the deal. A history of injuries, and leaving his physical prime is a recipe for this.

You kind of hit the nail on the head. When you give out huge or max deals to guys who are in the final year or their primes or even past it already, you are going to have a history like Knicks have had the past decade.

Also, Knicks seem to sign guys with no rhyme or reason other than the fact they are talented big names. You cant just go out and throw money at big FA's with no plan on how they will mesh or no idea of what your team identity will be.

[rodman91]

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lze6vnILFe1qm9rypo1_400.jpg

[LABean]

Only [Lin] can save the knicks now.
What are you talking about? Melo can save the Knicks too...











































































by not playing.
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[mlh1981]

What's sad is that, at his age (29), he should be at his peak right now, but he's an old 29, with a fair amount of mileage, and the well chronicled injury history.

[HAzE024]

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1319/5117169345_db62ac1955.jpg

[iDunk]

But Knicks don't have the cohesiveness and team mentality that the Mavs had. I think that is the biggest reason the Mavs won. They had extremely good team chemistry. Cant say the same for Knicks.
Be honest, you honestly thought the Mavs had that cohesiveness and potential to win a title last year during season play? NO ONE saw the Mavs winning a title last year, even Mavs fans.

I'm not saying the Knicks will even win a game in the playoffs let alone win a title, but lets not count this team out of anything.

[Whoah10115]

I'd start melo or novak



Please no. Harrellson please.




Come on Amare.

[iDunk]

What's sad is that, at his age (29), he should be at his peak right now, but he's an old 29, with a fair amount of mileage, and the well chronicled injury history.
STAT peaked last season IMO. He put a team on his back while putting up amazing numbers. He's far from done, Amare's the type of guy who won't let injuries slow him down.

[cteach111]

Be honest, you honestly thought the Mavs had that cohesiveness and potential to win a title last year during season play? NO ONE saw the Mavs winning a title last year, even Mavs fans.

I'm not saying the Knicks will even win a game in the playoffs let alone win a title, but lets not count this team out of anything.

i recall them tearing it up at the start of the season last year. Obviously, I didn't see them winning anything, but they returned to form that postseason.

The Knicks haven't displayed any sort of consistency like Dallas.

[BlazersDozen]

Be honest, you honestly thought the Mavs had that cohesiveness and potential to win a title last year during season play? NO ONE saw the Mavs winning a title last year, even Mavs fans.

I'm not saying the Knicks will even win a game in the playoffs let alone win a title, but lets not count this team out of anything.

The Mavs had proven depth. Nobody expected the other players outside Dirk to put up huge numbers but we all know they could get it done because we've seen them get it done before and if you didn't think the Mavs were contenders last season then you were nuts because that team was better than the one that went to the Finals & were picked by some to win the title because of their depth.

Knicks don't have the depth that your blue & orange glasses make you want to seem that they have.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Sorry to say it, but when he first signed his contract, I expected him to be one of the worst deals in the league at the very latest year 3 in the deal. A history of injuries, and leaving his physical prime is a recipe for this.

You kind of hit the nail on the head. When you give out huge or max deals to guys who are in the final year or their primes or even past it already, you are going to have a history like Knicks have had the past decade.

Also, Knicks seem to sign guys with no rhyme or reason other than the fact they are talented big names. You cant just go out and throw money at big FA's with no plan on how they will mesh or no idea of what your team identity will be.

Oh yeah I felt the same way as you. I figured Amare had 3 elite years left and then he was just going to drop exponentially. We overpaid but its something that had to be done. I figured we had a very small 2 to 3 year window where we could win a title. But if Amare is not the same player when he returns from this the Knicks will be a first round and out team for the next few years

[Godzuki]

DAAAMMNNNN Lins out too :facepalm

no point in even watching the Knicks game tonight :mad: :mad: :mad:

[OmniStrife]

Suns medical staff delivers again.

They knew he's broken

[IamRAMBO24]

Melo at PF would be a beast.

Good news for the Knicks. Melo has no business standing at the perimeter chucking up shots.

[Sarcastic]

DAAAMMNNNN Lins out too :facepalm

no point in even watching the Knicks game tonight :mad: :mad: :mad:

Unless you are a Knick fan.

[cteach111]

Melo gets a rare chance to light up the scoreboards tonight

[Whoah10115]

Yea, history of injuries...a knee injury and a scratched eye.



He's not injury prone and this guy looked the same athletic beast last year. People just like to say nothing.

[mlh1981]

Since we're on the subject of Stoudemire, someone educate me on this: I don't watch many Knicks games, so I was wondering why does Stoudemire only average 8 rebounds a game? That is a fairly low number for a big man.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Melo at PF would be a beast.

Good news for the Knicks. Melo has no business standing at the perimeter chucking up shots.

You obviously have never watched Carmelo Anthony play until this year then...

His midrange game was the best in the league prior to this season

[IamRAMBO24]

Melo gets a rare chance to light up the scoreboards tonight

This will be Melo's biggest game of his career: prove he is the real dog on the knicks.

Do or die Melo.

[Knicks101]

I like Chandler, but we should have saved that amnesty clause.

[The Ownage]

Since we're on the subject of Stoudemire, someone educate me on this: I don't watch many Knicks games, so I was wondering why does Stoudemire only average 8 rebounds a game? That is a fairly low number for a big man.
He just sucks at rebounding. Doesn't really put any effort in boxing out. 8 rebounds a game is also an inconsistent figure, he'll get 5, 6, 6 in 3 games and then beast the boards in the next two games with like 12 rebounds. That's when he wants to though.

[ClutchOver9000]

Shump in all honesty will be like JR Smith with lock down man to man defensive skills... Either that or Jamal Crawford with defensive skills. Either is fine for me coming from a late first rounder

:applause:

I was just ribbing ya on the homegrown superstar thing...sadly, that's not the case with the Knicks...

BUT...I love Shump...he needs to develop consistency w/ his shot and shot selection but I think he'll be a major piece to any future success in store for the Knicks...

+1 on the JR analogy, I've always said he reminded me of a better defending, worse shooting JR Smith...if he develops a consistent shot...watch out.

[IamRAMBO24]

You obviously have never watched Carmelo Anthony play until this year then...

His midrange game was the best in the league prior to this season

Who gives a f*ck what he did prior to this year? I know his game. I just don't care.

You can't use history as a legit argument over how well the player is playing. Players get better or worst; that's the nature of basketball. If we are using history, then why not proclaim Iverson and Mcgrady as 1st NBA all star team this year? The NBA only operates on the here and now, not what he did in the past.

So if Melo can't shoot worth a damn at the perimeter this year, then his fat a*s needs to take it inside. The PF position is perfect for this loser. Maybe he'll actually be of some use.

[StroShow4]

I'm still confident though. Look at the Mavs, they lost Caron Butler who was their second leading scorer and they still won the championship. Knicks have the Mavs depth, they just need to believe, the Knicks can still be deadly.

I'm sure Chandler has already mentioned this to the team as an example.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e371/StroShow4/4cwwew4.gif

[Scoooter]

Who gives a f*ck what he did prior to this year? I know his game. I just don't care.

You can't use history as a legit argument over how well the player is playing. Players get better or worst; that's the nature of basketball. If we are using history, then why not proclaim Iverson and Mcgrady as 1st NBA all star team this year? The NBA only operates on the here and now, not what he did in the past.

So if Melo can't shoot worth a damn at the perimeter this year, then his fat a*s needs to take it inside. The PF position is perfect for this loser. Maybe he'll actually be of some use.
He can't make layups anymore either. :cry:

[SpecialQue]

STAT peaked last season IMO. He put a team on his back while putting up amazing numbers. He's far from done, Amare's the type of guy who won't let injuries slow him down.

No wonder it's all fvcked up.

[ClutchOver9000]

:lol :roll: :lol Al Trautwig on Knicks pre-game

"Amare is out with a bulging d!ck...I mean disc"

i'm weak....:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[The Ownage]

:roll:

[talkingconch]

:lol :roll: :lol Al Trautwig on Knicks pre-game

"Amare is out with a bulging d!ck...I mean disc"

i'm weak....:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
:yaohappy:

[MeLO MvP 15]

It really hurts of course (and wouldn't have been as bad if the deadline pass already and guys like Diaw/Hickson got signed already), but when Jefferies get back the defense will really be a lot better. The offense might get really ugly at times, but a big man rotation of Tyson/ Jared/ Novak/ Jorts with Melo getting some minutes at PF is pretty solid still.

[knickswin]

Amar'e really has no business being on this team anymore anyway. he's still a good player, but this isn't the team for him. he and melo are a bad fit. tyson just makes it worst. jeffries and novak are both better fits at power forward. it bums me out more that jeffries will be gone for a while.

you can't build a team around amar'e and melo. spending $100 million on amar'e was never really a great investment, but it probably could have been okay if they had decided to build a real d'antoni team and go after either chris paul or deron williams as the second star.

[Suckafree]

Not good news at all.Ive had one before and it sucked, had to undergo surgery.

[MeLO MvP 15]

Berger said we'll know by tomorrow if he'll need season ending surgery.

[LoneyROY7]

Just means Melo's gonna start dominating again.

[knickswin]

Just means Melo's gonna start dominating again.

melo and amar'e definitely get in each other's ways, so I wouldn't be surprised if melo's number go up. this injury could give the knicks more focus and cohesiveness on offense.

[LoneyROY7]

melo and amar'e definitely get in each other's ways, so I wouldn't be surprised if melo's number go up. this injury could give the knicks more focus and cohesiveness on offense.

They just don't fit together. Offensively they do the same thing...post-ups and elbow isos (leading to either a mid-range jumper or a drive).

Melo's numbers will JUMP now.

[Undisputed]

"The Knicks are back...I mean, owww, my back!"

[ClutchOver9000]

"The Knicks are back...I mean, owww, my back!"

:coleman: :facepalm

[ballashotcalla]

You've got to start Jared when he comes back.

But knowing Woody, he'll probably start jr or shump.

[knickswin]

They just don't fit together. Offensively they do the same thing...post-ups and elbow isos (leading to either a mid-range jumper or a drive).

Melo's numbers will JUMP now.

yep. there is no chemistry with these guys let alone synergy. melo should be playing with a stretch/high post four. amar'e should be playing with mike d'antoni and steve nash back in phoenix. even though they've been winning, knicks have been a mess on offense. maybe with no amar'e they can get more focus on offense. you get melo and lin as the #1 and #2 guys with a fairly decent supporting cast of scorers.

[bdreason]

When Phoenix doesn't sign a guy because of injuries concerns, you know there's a problem.

[Day La Ghetto]

What's melos numbers without amare with the knicks?hopefully he goes back to being the guy he was before he came to the Knicks.if he did he'd make up for the medicore play of both of them on scoring..

[dunksby]

Is he 100% done for the season?

[miggyme1]

You've got to start Jared when he comes back.

But knowing Woody, he'll probably start jr or shump.

why would woody start jr smith when hes not a defensive player?lol thats something dantoni would have done.lol..jeffries will start trustme

[knickswin]

jared jeffries is sooooooo underrated. i honest to god think he is a flat-out good player. i don't even care if he sucks at lay-ups. this guy is an amazing defender, a great intangibles player, and has incredible basketball IQ. we're a better team with him on the floor.

[ihatetimthomas]

Oh yeah I felt the same way as you. I figured Amare had 3 elite years left and then he was just going to drop exponentially. We overpaid but its something that had to be done. I figured we had a very small 2 to 3 year window where we could win a title. But if Amare is not the same player when he returns from this the Knicks will be a first round and out team for the next few years

Yeah I kinda have to agree. Even though I thought it was going to turn into a bad deal, Amare was coming off a very good year, and Knicks were in need of someone who can score a lot. He was signed at age 28. Its hard to say it was a bad signing, bc this was the going rate for guys of his caliber.

[ihatetimthomas]

Be honest, you honestly thought the Mavs had that cohesiveness and potential to win a title last year during season play? NO ONE saw the Mavs winning a title last year, even Mavs fans.

I'm not saying the Knicks will even win a game in the playoffs let alone win a title, but lets not count this team out of anything.

Yeah, I admit I never saw it coming last year. But I can say with positivity that the Mavs were better than the Knicks this year during the reg season. Knicks have been so up and down, truly lack clear identity. Also, Mavs had a better coach and the players were committed.