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Faptastrophe
03-29-2012, 05:48 PM
Full article. (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/7752775/steve-nash-listen-miami-heat-free-agent)


Phoenix Suns point guard Steve Nash, one of the top free agents this summer (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7695876/nba-early-look-top-free-agents-2012), joined the Dan Patrick Show (http://www.danpatrick.com/2012/03/29/steve-nash-talks-about-free-agency-kentucky-vs-nba-team/) this afternoon and made some comments that probably made ripples around the league.

"I'm not coming back to the Suns if there isn't improvement," Nash told Patrick.

Nash explained he's expecting the Suns to try to make those improvements, but that he's looking forward to becoming a free agent and deciding where to continue his career.


The hypothetical of LeBron James asking Nash to join up in Miami for one last push at a championship was brought up.

"I would listen," Nash said. "He's phenomenal. I love what they're doing there. A lot of people don't like them because they put all that talent there. But they're professional, they play hard, they play together. Their coaching staff has done a great job, so I have a tremendous amount of respect for them.

"I would definitely listen."



The Heat won't have any salary-cap space next summer, so Nash would have to settle for the mid-level exception if he wanted to join the club.

Plenty of teams, including the Suns, could offer much more money than the Heat.

But for someone who has earned about $120 million during his career, sacrificing some money for winning a title might be palatable to Nash.

Dude deserves to go out with a chance at ring. http://i.imgur.com/NKaWC.png

I<3NBA
03-29-2012, 05:50 PM
fk is this? Nash would not help the Heat. he would give the Heat problems with his defense.

dirkdiggler41
03-29-2012, 05:57 PM
Me and most people belive that the last thing the Heat need is a domaint pointguard. What the Heat need is a pointguard who can defend and make 3 pointers. I belive that is what they are getting with Chalmers. Nash needs the ball in his hands to be Nash. I also notice that he is not such a good shooter when he spots up and shoots. He needs his dribble. I'm not saying Nash with the Heat would suck, they would improve, but it is not like we are playing a video game.

DuMa
03-29-2012, 05:59 PM
Heat need a 7'0" or bigger center to compliment bosh's inablity to bang and get rebounds more so than Nash's talents.

BlackVVaves
03-29-2012, 06:07 PM
For the sake of hypothetical assumptions...

As a true, true fan of Steve Nash, I am somewhat torn at the possiblity of him going to the Heat. I admire Nash's character that he has exemplified throughout his ENTIRE, not just second half of his, career, and feel nauseas thinking about that type of player joining such a cocky, arrogant set of players (Wade, Lebron, Chalmers, Battier at times in his career, Haslem).

Getting back to the hypothetical; I WOULD however endorse this transaction if Miami were to say miss another chance to become champions this year, and ultimately won the proceeding year after adding Nash as their starting point guard (don't try to tell me that Chalmers and Nole are better than Steve Nash. Even with his defensive liablities, a 39 year old Steve Nash is still a miracle worker the likes that Chalmers and Nole could only dream of evolving into.)

Such a win in the 2013 Finals, considering their failed attempts (hypothetically, again I must stress) would, in my eyes, help cement Nash as one of the greatest point guards to ever play in the Association with little to no doubt whatsoever. You wouldn't be able to discredit him from that ring, citing him joining such a talented roster, because that same talented roster were 0 for 2 in their championship voyages. Meaning, Steve Nash was, and maybe always was, the "missing piece." And though he wouldn't be the FMVP as he would have undoubtedly been had he won a ring in PHX, I think the fact that he came to a team that experienced continued failure in terms of their ultimate goal and helped transcend them, shoving them over the proverbial fence, would speak volumes to his abilities, and his character.

So, maybe he should consider joining the Heat this summer. One thing is for sure. It's time Nash got selfish: players much, MUCH less talented and deserving as you have sought out championships, ring chasing into retirement. There's no shame in cutting your ties with the Suns, a franchise you single handedly revitalized in every and any possible way, to achieve that one thing that is missing from your Hall of Fame resume.

Faptastrophe
03-29-2012, 06:08 PM
Nash on the Heat is scary to contemplate. Seeing Nash win a title is something even the staunchest Lebron-haters would celebrate. He'd bring some class to the operation down there on south beach.


Heat need a 7'0" or bigger center to compliment bosh's inablity to bang and get rebounds more so than Nash's talents.
Yeah they need a big rebounder guy, but I'd take Nash over something that improves my team any time. But that's just me.

RazorBaLade
03-29-2012, 06:09 PM
why does he deserve it? he wasnt good enough to win with a few contending teams, got unlucky, whatever. You can't go ring chase like a loser because you want a ring, he deserves better than a ring as a 4th option and if not at least the pride would be there. cmon

Real Men Wear Green
03-29-2012, 06:12 PM
why does he deserve it? he wasnt good enough to win with a few contending teams, got unlucky, whatever. You can't go ring chase like a loser because you want a ring, he deserves better than a ring as a 4th option and if not at least the pride would be there. cmon
He'll be a free agent, so yes, he can.

InfiniteBaskets
03-29-2012, 06:15 PM
At 39 years old, has there been any other NBA players that have received offers as high as Nash is projected to get (MLE + a few extra million per year)? And I'm talking about entering free agency as a 39 year old, not signing a 5 year deal at 35 and getting paid the latter half at 39.

AlphaWolf24
03-29-2012, 06:18 PM
HEAT are getting even more stacked???


cot diggity ..

SacJB Shady
03-29-2012, 06:20 PM
maybe put him on the bench for balance?

mr beast
03-29-2012, 06:20 PM
i feel what Nash is saying

im not a fan of the super team but you got to admit , at least they are doing it to increase their chances of winning, they want to win period. how would you feel if they just remain super stars in their 1 man army teams and never win a ring. a couple years down the road, they will become role players and go ring chase anyways

BlackVVaves
03-29-2012, 06:25 PM
why does he deserve it? he wasnt good enough to win with a few contending teams, got unlucky, whatever. You can't go ring chase like a loser because you want a ring, he deserves better than a ring as a 4th option and if not at least the pride would be there. cmon

Like I said, less talented players have gone "ring chasing," so why does he NOT deserve it? It's alright for players who joined the Celtics of the 2000s, the Rockets of the 90s, and so many other players prior, after, and between to run after their coveted championship before they hang their shorts up, but its not for a two time MVP?

A two time MVP who got utterly ****ED in his best years as a title contender, by the Spurs and Robert Horry who blatantly leveled Nash with a foul that would gotten him fined today all to incite confrontation that ultimately ended in Amare's suspension, the Suns second best player, but second in impact by no means as he was dominating that postseason?

What about the year the Suns had to fend for themselves as that same player, Amare, was out close to the entire season minus three games, the year Steve Nash turned Diaw into the MIP of the league?

Unlucky is exactly what has dampered Nash's title hopes in the past, not incompetence, not lack of effort like Lebron (as an example of a player who had all the tools but did not work hard enough when his goal was 2 wins away.)

Yes Steve Nash deserves a real chance at a ring. Yes, he does.

DirtySanchez
03-29-2012, 06:25 PM
The Heat need a real bigman.

Some kids never learn.

RRR3
03-29-2012, 06:28 PM
The Heat need a real bigman.

Some kids never learn.
The Heat don't need shit. The only thing the Heat need is for LeBron to be LeBron, 100%, every minute of every game in the playoffs.

Orlando Magic
03-29-2012, 06:29 PM
Two words... Orlando Magic.

No other team would improve quite like they would if a competent point guard were running the offense. Period.

AlphaWolf24
03-29-2012, 06:29 PM
serious question...what is so special about winning if you have to leave your team and go join someone else's contending team??...

especially as a 2X MVP???

have some pride Nash..

macpierce
03-29-2012, 06:30 PM
The Heat don't need shit. The only thing the Heat need is for LeBron to be LeBron, 100%, every minute of every game in the playoffs.

Keep dreaming :biggums:

RRR3
03-29-2012, 06:32 PM
Btw Nash is talking about next year right? Cuz the suns are in a playoff push. Id like Nash to either stay with suns or maybe go back to the mavs, or the magic

RRR3
03-29-2012, 06:32 PM
Keep dreaming :biggums:
The heat would have won last year if lebron didn't choke. I don't see how me saying they'll win if he comes through is crazy

Faptastrophe
03-29-2012, 06:33 PM
serious question...what is so special about winning if you have to leave your team and go join someone else's contending team??...

especially as a 2X MVP???

have some pride Nash..
I was beginning to question his competitiveness for staying with Phoenix. Loyalty doesn't mean jack when the owner (Staver) isn't being loyal to him by surrounding him with quality NBA players. Steve deserves one last shot at a title before he retires.

miller-time
03-29-2012, 06:36 PM
serious question...what is so special about winning if you have to leave your team and go join someone else's contending team??...

especially as a 2X MVP???

have some pride Nash..

look at that team? what are they doing? they seem to be content selling tickets solely on nash. basketball is a team game and management is part of that team. if they are just floundering then why stick around? in any other job don't wouldn't you prefer to work in a place that has good management?

niko
03-29-2012, 06:38 PM
Nash immediately gives their defense, the best part arguably of that team a huge weakness.

RazorBaLade
03-29-2012, 06:39 PM
Like I said, less talented players have gone "ring chasing," so why does he NOT deserve it? It's alright for players who joined the Celtics of the 2000s, the Rockets of the 90s, and so many other players prior, after, and between to run after their coveted championship before they hang their shorts up, but its not for a two time MVP?

A two time MVP who got utterly ****ED in his best years as a title contender, by the Spurs and Robert Horry who blatantly leveled Nash with a foul that would gotten him fined today all to incite confrontation that ultimately ended in Amare's suspension, the Suns second best player, but second in impact by no means as he was dominating that postseason?

What about the year the Suns had to fend for themselves as that same player, Amare, was out close to the entire season minus three games, the year Steve Nash turned Diaw into the MIP of the league?

Unlucky is exactly what has dampered Nash's title hopes in the past, not incompetence, not lack of effort like Lebron (as an example of a player who had all the tools but did not work hard enough when his goal was 2 wins away.)

Yes Steve Nash deserves a real chance at a ring. Yes, he does.

Yeah but a real chance is going to a team that he won't be the 4th best damn player on. How about NY or LA or DAL or something? Pacers? Is everyone just going to join the heat? When kobes contract is up is he gonna go over there for a "real chance" at a ring? He deserves a 6th?! Cmon.

Cmon. You can't all just go to one team and keep stacking star players. Whats next, howard needs a REAL CHANCE at a ring so he goes there and they have 5 all star starters? Cmon. Its a ****in joke.

Thers a difference between say playing a game of 21 and "taking a chance" with staying on 18 (like say, joining dallas) instead of just hitting knowing theres only 1's left and getting up to 20 or 21. This is just stacking the odds and its legal sure but this should be frowned upon especially by a 2x MVP.

Scholar
03-29-2012, 06:39 PM
fk is this? Nash would not help the Heat. he would give the Heat problems with his defense.

If the Heat made it to the Finals with Mike Bibby, they'll win a title with Nash. No questions asked.

niko
03-29-2012, 06:40 PM
i'm so glad MDA is gone because i don't want Nash. I don't like the fact the team has to be a bad defensive team just because he is on the court.

Owl
03-29-2012, 06:40 PM
I can't believe anyone thinks Nash doesn't help (or indeed "give them problems")
I'm amazed that people think that there's a dominant big man defender waiting to be signed on the cheap. The closest thing there is to that is Oden and I suspect if he wanted to join the Heat he'd take the minimum to have the Heat rehab him and then join an all-star line up with Nash, Wade, James and Bosh. I'm particularly puzzled by the notion that Nash doesn't help with his floor spacing, and his unselfishness. I think he'd be a good option late in games and could generally give the heat offense more structure. I'd also suggest that the Heat are an athletic team who could help cover any mistakes or defensive errors he might make.

There's huge overreactions anyway because this is by no means a fait acompli, and I find the moral grandstanding about ring chasing being evil or undignified, well, odd frankly, up until recently we didn't look at free agency as a moral decision.

Inactive
03-29-2012, 06:40 PM
I'm not sure why the Heat would want Nash, unless he's willing to sign for nothing. They already have 2 stars, who like to play PG offensively. I'm sure Nash could help their offense a little bit, but a 3 point shooting, defensive minded pg is a better fit. Chalmers is good enough in that role.

dee-rose
03-29-2012, 06:41 PM
i'm so glad MDA is gone because i don't want Nash. I don't like the fact the team has to be a bad defensive team just because he is on the court.
As if a point guard can actually effect a defense to that extent. :roll:

dee-rose
03-29-2012, 06:41 PM
Two words... Orlando Magic.

No other team would improve quite like they would if a competent point guard were running the offense. Period.
Agreed. Keep Dwight in Orlando, get Nash a ring and still keep a good amount of competitive balance in the league. I'd love to see Nash on the Magic.

iDunk
03-29-2012, 06:43 PM
He's gotta come to the Knicks.

Lin/Nash

Nash/Baron

Would be a sick PG tandem.

dunksby
03-29-2012, 06:45 PM
i'm so glad MDA is gone because i don't want Nash. I don't like the fact the team has to be a bad defensive team just because he is on the court.
You dunno shit about Basketball why do you insist on giving your useless and baseless input on every topic?

BlackVVaves
03-29-2012, 06:50 PM
Yeah but a real chance is going to a team that he won't be the 4th best damn player on. How about NY or LA or DAL or something? Pacers? Is everyone just going to join the heat? When kobes contract is up is he gonna go over there for a "real chance" at a ring? He deserves a 6th?! Cmon.

Cmon. You can't all just go to one team and keep stacking star players. Whats next, howard needs a REAL CHANCE at a ring so he goes there and they have 5 all star starters? Cmon. Its a ****in joke.

Thers a difference between say playing a game of 21 and "taking a chance" with staying on 18 (like say, joining dallas) instead of just hitting knowing theres only 1's left and getting up to 20 or 21. This is just stacking the odds and its legal sure but this should be frowned upon especially by a 2x MVP.

My post was referring to why Nash deserves a ring period, not why he deserves one with the Heat. As my post before that stated, as a fan of Nash, I would prefer him NOT go to the Heat, considering the level of arrogance their players maintain. My only point was, if he were to go to the Heat, after another FAIL this year, then I could understand and support him joining the team, as at that point it would be clear that the team is not good enough to win a championship, despite having 3 of the top 10-15 players in the league.

At which point it wouldn't matter if he's the 4th best player on a contending team, because that team with those three great players still couldn't win a championship, further highlighting Nash's importance as an All Time great point guard.

Do you follow me?

niko
03-29-2012, 06:51 PM
You dunno shit about Basketball why do you insist on giving your useless and baseless input on every topic?
The Knicks spent years trying to play phoenix sun ball. Nash, at this age is not what we need.

Nash
03-29-2012, 06:53 PM
My god, Nash and Lebron on the same team? Thats shit I dream about. And Bosh would love Nash, dude would play for him. And I think Ronny Turiaf would benefit a lot from Nash like Gortat did. Turiaf has great hands and could catch a few of those Nash passes.

dunksby
03-29-2012, 06:54 PM
The Knicks spent years trying to play phoenix sun ball. Nash, at this age is not what we need.
What's this got to do with anything? It aint like Nash is gonna give your misshapen team a second of thought anyway.

G-train
03-29-2012, 06:57 PM
As a Heat fan it's a sad fact that the Heat sometimes lose close games.
I would feel very comfortable with Nash playing 28 mpg for the heat next season, and controlling the ball/making decisions in pressure situations.
Heat would definitely need more motion in their offence, although that has improved at times this season.

jbryan1984
03-29-2012, 07:00 PM
They really are trying to be 04 Lakers. I'm telling you right now, Miami needs to trade Wade out while he still has great value and get a ton of players to make a great team. Either that or Dwight for Wade straight up. LeBron and Wade are just too much the same player. If you look at the other teams recently who have had 2 real superstars in their prime on the same team........ Its been Kobe and Shaq, its been T-Mac and Yao. Amar'e and Nash. Notice anything? One of those players plays with their backs to the basket. Its not two guys playing the same game and because there is a salary cap in this league, there will never be a team that has 3 top 10 players. Bosh is not a superstar. Bosh is one of the best second option players the game has to offer. He is a perfect fit for a sidekick star like Pau Gasol, 33 year old Shaq, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, etc. So yeah...... if Miami fails this year, I would be shopping D. Wade.

PickernRoller
03-29-2012, 07:00 PM
The Heat don't need shit. The only thing the Heat need is for LeBron to be LeBron, 100%, every minute of every game in the playoffs.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: keep dreaming......

So Nash to the Heat huh? I seen it all now.


My god, Nash and Lebron on the same team? Thats shit I dream about. And Bosh would love Nash, dude would play for him. And I think Ronny Turiaf would benefit a lot from Nash like Gortat did. Turiaf has great hands and could catch a few of those Nash passes.

Ohhh I get it now....I get it, no wonder.......talk about homers......no respect, no respect.

InfiniteBaskets
03-29-2012, 07:04 PM
By the way, Nash only sasid he would listen. We don't need to act like he already joined Miami. I'd still think this is him putting pressure on Phoenic to bring some talent together this off season.

Whoah10115
03-29-2012, 07:05 PM
He's not going to Miami. If they traded Bosh and Nash went there and they ran 111MPH, that could be cool, but that's not gonna happen. And he's not the type.



He's telling Phoenix what's up. Improve.

dunksby
03-29-2012, 07:05 PM
They really are trying to be 04 Lakers. I'm telling you right now, Miami needs to trade Wade out while he still has great value and get a ton of players to make a great team. Either that or Dwight for Wade straight up. LeBron and Wade are just too much the same player. If you look at the other teams recently who have had 2 real superstars in their prime on the same team........ Its been Kobe and Shaq, its been T-Mac and Yao. Amar'e and Nash. Notice anything? One of those players plays with their backs to the basket. Its not two guys playing the same game and because there is a salary cap in this league, there will never be a team that has 3 top 10 players. Bosh is not a superstar. Bosh is one of the best second option players the game has to offer. He is a perfect fit for a sidekick star like Pau Gasol, 33 year old Shaq, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, etc. So yeah...... if Miami fails this year, I would be shopping D. Wade.
Miami is not gonna trade Wade, you must be out of your damn mind!

CavaliersFTW
03-29-2012, 07:06 PM
fk is this? Nash would not help the Heat. he would give the Heat problems with his defense.
:facepalm

PickernRoller
03-29-2012, 07:07 PM
Miami is not gonna trade Wade, you must be out of your damn mind!

right on brah.....more like Bron for Dwight......Dwight takes care of his shit in the 4th....

BlackVVaves
03-29-2012, 07:08 PM
They really are trying to be 04 Lakers. I'm telling you right now, Miami needs to trade Wade out while he still has great value and get a ton of players to make a great team. Either that or Dwight for Wade straight up. LeBron and Wade are just too much the same player. If you look at the other teams recently who have had 2 real superstars in their prime on the same team........ Its been Kobe and Shaq, its been T-Mac and Yao. Amar'e and Nash. Notice anything? One of those players plays with their backs to the basket. Its not two guys playing the same game and because there is a salary cap in this league, there will never be a team that has 3 top 10 players. Bosh is not a superstar. Bosh is one of the best second option players the game has to offer. He is a perfect fit for a sidekick star like Pau Gasol, 33 year old Shaq, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, etc. So yeah...... if Miami fails this year, I would be shopping D. Wade.

Considering that if the Heat lose again this year it will more likely than not be because of Lebron's shortcoming, just the same as if they win it will because of his greatness, I think Wade would be the wrong player to trade.

RazorBaLade
03-29-2012, 07:11 PM
My post was referring to why Nash deserves a ring period, not why he deserves one with the Heat. As my post before that stated, as a fan of Nash, I would prefer him NOT go to the Heat, considering the level of arrogance their players maintain. My only point was, if he were to go to the Heat, after another FAIL this year, then I could understand and support him joining the team, as at that point it would be clear that the team is not good enough to win a championship, despite having 3 of the top 10-15 players in the league.

At which point it wouldn't matter if he's the 4th best player on a contending team, because that team with those three great players still couldn't win a championship, further highlighting Nash's importance as an All Time great point guard.

Do you follow me?

Oh my apologies.

Yes i see your point.

Nash
03-29-2012, 07:12 PM
Ohhh I get it now....I get it, no wonder.......talk about homers......no respect, no respect.
Get off your high horse man, who the hell are you to judge how you should be a fan and not?

Faptastrophe
03-29-2012, 07:30 PM
If not the HEAT.. I'd love to see Nash back with Nowitzki. (http://www.pardisparker.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Steve-Nash-and-Dirk-Nowitzki-755x547.jpg)

Also if Sessions doesn't put up fantastic numbers from here on out, then I could see the Lakers making a hard push at acquiring Nash.

PJR
03-29-2012, 07:32 PM
Man that LeBron guy is such a douche. Nobody wants to play with him! :oldlol:

305Baller
03-29-2012, 07:32 PM
Nash could be a great addition... when Cole was distributing the Heat were more potent.

Move Cole to SG while Nash gets the backup 1 role...

Celtic_Pride
03-29-2012, 07:34 PM
Heat this year have a 60% probability of winning it all

If they add Nash, it will probably raise upto 70-75% next year.

But the problem is Lebron, Wade and Nash all need ball in their hands to succeed since none of them are catch and shoot players. Bosh will get all the open looks in the world and will benefit the most.

Lets see

305Baller
03-29-2012, 07:41 PM
Heat this year have a 60% probability of winning it all

If they add Nash, it will probably raise upto 70-75% next year.

But the problem is Lebron, Wade and Nash all need ball in their hands to succeed since none of them are catch and shoot players. Bosh will get all the open looks in the world and will benefit the most.

Lets see

They are catch and dunk players.

niko
03-29-2012, 07:42 PM
What's this got to do with anything? It aint like Nash is gonna give your misshapen team a second of thought anyway.
He would have he we not dumped our coach.

swi7ch
03-29-2012, 07:46 PM
yesssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

all we need now is d12 for my dream 82-0 and 16-0 perfect season! :bowdown:

wagexslave
03-29-2012, 07:50 PM
That's fine, because any improvement the Suns are going to have next year is going to involve Nash getting off the roster and the Suns using his now freed-up cap space to sign big name free agents like Deron Williams and Eric Gordon.

It's been a nice run, Steve. It was fun watching you in your prime, but it's time to move on and find your replacement. If we can get D-Will, finally losing Nash wouldn't seem so bad after all. lol

guy
03-29-2012, 07:50 PM
I don't see him going to the Heat. Not necessarily because he's above joining up with a super stacked team that already made the Finals without him. But because he'd have to take a much lesser role playing in a way that he hasn't in a very long time. He's never played with 1 player like Lebron and Wade, much less. I highly doubt he would want to play on a team where he would have to play with 2 ball dominant players. Its not a knock on either of them. Its just it would probably be less enjoyable and I'm sure he does hold importance in what kind of role he plays in a championship.

The best fit would be Orlando. It would be more or less his best Phoenix but with elite defense because of Howard. He'd have a bunch of 3 point shooting around him and an elite defensive big men that he would turn into a 25 ppg scorer.

RRR3
03-29-2012, 07:56 PM
Nash could be a great addition... when Cole was distributing the Heat were more potent.

Move Cole to SG while Nash gets the backup 1 role...
Are you insane? Cole? COLE? Cole never passes, and if you actually are watching with your eyes open, the Heat almost always are in the negative when he is on the floor. He is a horrible player who ruins ball movement, he hasn't made a shot in about a month, and he is one of worst bball iq players in the NBA.


Cole:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

TeamLAC
03-29-2012, 08:09 PM
As a HUGE Nash fan I really don't want him to go to a team like the Heat. But I also want to see him get one last shot for a championship, and if he goes to the Heat then there is a good chance... #13 :bowdown:

Eat Like A Bosh
03-29-2012, 09:21 PM
Hope not, I would hate to root against Nash...

The idea scenario would've been Nash getting traded to Dallas last season, and he wins a ring with Dirk. Perfect happy ending.

305Baller
03-29-2012, 09:22 PM
Are you insane? Cole? COLE? Cole never passes, and if you actually are watching with your eyes open, the Heat almost always are in the negative when he is on the floor. He is a horrible player who ruins ball movement, he hasn't made a shot in about a month, and he is one of worst bball iq players in the NBA.


Cole:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

I think you may have some reading comprehension issues.
Read my thingy again.

Pra
03-29-2012, 09:24 PM
Heat could make major moves this off season.

Amenesty Mike Miller.... trade off Joel for a 2nd round pick? or an expirer.

Cut Curry...
Cut Howard.. (unless they keep him for locker room presence)
keep Turiaf (vet min)


Sign Kaman... to the full MLE (I bet he'd be willing if he's looking for chips)

Worst case scenario to make this work, you may have to get rid of Haslem or Battier :( I did not do the math at all
Nash for the Vet Min
Grant Hill for the Vet min

There are probably some other good vet's out there that would take the vet Min.

Nash/Chalmers
Wade/Jones
Lebron/Battier
Bosh/Haslem
Kaman/Turiaf

Bench players: Cole,Hill, Haslem, Battier, Turiaf,Chalmers

Would have a great star & veteran presence like the 2006 Miami heat.

Vet PG like Payton
Shaq was slowly exiting his Prime but was still a power house.
Zo,Walker,Williams, etc.

:biggums:

305Baller
03-29-2012, 09:27 PM
Heat could make major moves this off season.

Amenesty Mike Miller.... trade off Joel for a 2nd round pick? or an expirer.

Cut Curry...
Cut Howard.. (unless they keep him for locker room presence)
keep Turiaf (vet min)


Sign Kaman... to the full MLE (I bet he'd be willing if he's looking for chips)

Worst case scenario to make this work, you may have to get rid of Haslem or Battier :( I did not do the math at all
Nash for the Vet Min
Grant Hill for the Vet min

There are probably some other good vet's out there that would take the vet Min.

Chalmers/Nash
Wade/Jones
Lebron/Battier
Bosh/Haslem
Kaman/Turiaf

Bench players: Cole,Hill, Haslem, Battier, Turiaf,Chalmers

Would have a great star & veteran presence like the 2006 Miami heat.

Vet PG like Payton
Shaq was slowly exiting his Prime but was still a power house.
Zo,Walker,Williams, etc.



fixed.

:coleman:

BlackVVaves
03-29-2012, 09:27 PM
That's fine, because any improvement the Suns are going to have next year is going to involve Nash getting off the roster and the Suns using his now freed-up cap space to sign big name free agents like Deron Williams and Eric Gordon.

It's been a nice run, Steve. It was fun watching you in your prime, but it's time to move on and find your replacement. If we can get D-Will, finally losing Nash wouldn't seem so bad after all. lol

There's a better chance that the Nets win the championship this year than D Will signing with the Suns.

Pra
03-29-2012, 09:30 PM
fixed.

:coleman:
:hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime:

I like Chalmers a lot, and I am sure Nash would be okay coming off the bench and playing 20-25 mins (not like Fisher who believes he is still a starter in this league lol :facepalm )

NugzHeat3
03-29-2012, 09:35 PM
As a Heat fan it's a sad fact that the Heat sometimes lose close games.
I would feel very comfortable with Nash playing 28 mpg for the heat next season, and controlling the ball/making decisions in pressure situations.
Heat would definitely need more motion in their offence, although that has improved at times this season.
Agreed.

I love Steve Nash and wouldn't mind him at all. I don't feel his defensive shortcomings are going to matter all that much + you get a money shooter as well.

TeamLAC
03-29-2012, 09:38 PM
:hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime:

I like Chalmers a lot, and I am sure Nash would be okay coming off the bench and playing 20-25 mins (not like Fisher who believes he is still a starter in this league lol :facepalm )
WTF did I just read... :biggums:

Clocian-IGN
03-29-2012, 09:39 PM
how much more help does the cHeat need :lol

BlackVVaves
03-29-2012, 09:39 PM
Heat could make major moves this off season.

Amenesty Mike Miller.... trade off Joel for a 2nd round pick? or an expirer.

Cut Curry...
Cut Howard.. (unless they keep him for locker room presence)
keep Turiaf (vet min)


Sign Kaman... to the full MLE (I bet he'd be willing if he's looking for chips)

Worst case scenario to make this work, you may have to get rid of Haslem or Battier :( I did not do the math at all
Nash for the Vet Min
Grant Hill for the Vet min

There are probably some other good vet's out there that would take the vet Min.

Nash/Chalmers
Wade/Jones
Lebron/Battier
Bosh/Haslem
Kaman/Turiaf

Bench players: Cole,Hill, Haslem, Battier, Turiaf,Chalmers

Would have a great star & veteran presence like the 2006 Miami heat.

Vet PG like Payton
Shaq was slowly exiting his Prime but was still a power house.
Zo,Walker,Williams, etc.

:biggums:

If the Heat don't win the title this year, and it takes all those players for them to finally win...

Then it should never and CAN never be said that Lebron/Wade is as good as Kobe, both the Kobe that won three titles with Shaq and the Kobe that won two titles as the Alpha Alpha recently.

Kobe and Shaq won three straight titles with a bunch of average to below average role players. Kobe won two straight titles with one All Star, and a mix of slightly above average to below average role players.

Wade/Lebron is playing with another top 5 player in Lebron/Wade, and a top 12 player in Bosh. ALL in their prime. They have a solid bench, including above average individual defenders, above average shooters, and above average rebounders (Haslem leads the league with rebounds off the bench).

If it takes adding Steve Nash, Grant Hill, Chris ****ING Kaman who is a 20/10 machine, and whomever else they would look to add, to win a ring, then that tells me that those two players (Lebron and Wade) are not as godly as portrayed.

Is He Ill
03-29-2012, 09:45 PM
Sounds great, King James needs all the help that he can get. Nab Kaman while they're at it as well.

chips93
03-29-2012, 09:46 PM
how much more help does the cHeat need :lol

how exactly did they cheat?

Maneva
03-29-2012, 09:52 PM
I love Steve Nash and want him to win a ring more than anybody other than Grant Hill, and of course he's earned the right to do whatever the hell he wants at this point, but I'd still be sad if he went out like this. I also think it would hurt LeBron and Wade's legacies if it took the addition of Nash to win a title.

I mean there's stacked teams, and then there's the current Heat lineup, and then there's a starting lineup that includes LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and Steve Nash. Just imagine if they DIDN'T win it all? It would not only be incredibly embarrassing but it would be a horrible way for Nash to retire. But like I said, Nash has earned the right to do whatever he wants, and he most definitely deserves a good shot at a title.

305Baller
03-29-2012, 09:54 PM
I love Steve Nash and want him to win a ring more than anybody other than Grant Hill, and of course he's earned the right to do whatever the hell he wants at this point, but I'd still be sad if he went out like this. I also think it would hurt LeBron and Wade's legacies if it took the addition of Nash to win a title.

I mean there's stacked teams, and then there's the current Heat lineup, and then there's a starting lineup that includes LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and Steve Nash. Just imagine if they DIDN'T win it all? It would not only be incredibly embarrassing but it would be a horrible way for Nash to retire. But like I said, Nash has earned the right to do whatever he wants, and he most definitely deserves a good shot at a title.

see 2003 Lakers

Is He Ill
03-29-2012, 09:55 PM
see 2003 Lakers

Yeah, they already won 3.

The Iron Fist
03-29-2012, 09:58 PM
how much more help does the cHeat need :lol
8 all star rotation.

305Baller
03-29-2012, 09:58 PM
Yeah, they already won 3.

same questions your asking though... this time Malone and Payton reputations.

Nash
03-29-2012, 10:05 PM
Why do people think its Miami(Lebron needing help) who needs help? They don't need help, they're just showing interest like all the other teams are doing. Its not their fault if Nash is actually interested in joining them. And to be honest, why wouldn't he? Great city, huge championship potential and Nash has no time to wait. If a world class player wants to sign with your team for less money than he's worth, then why not? Should they tell him no to please the haters?

gilalizard
03-29-2012, 10:07 PM
Nash deserves a chance to ring chase. It's not like he's doing it during his prime, like the chickenhearted douchebags he'd be joining.

And if Nash is still playing at a high level, it just makes dwhistle's and tehchosen1's ring even more worthless. They couldn't get it done being already the most stacked team in the league. They needed to stack even more.

Micku
03-29-2012, 10:41 PM
It would be interesting if he did. The Heat really need a center than PG. Regardless, I wonder if he happen to join the Heat would it mess up his averages? LBJ and Wade are basically the PGs of the team. Nash could handle the ball and control the offense, that could mess up LBJ and Wade's game a little bit even though they did get better playing off the ball.

Nash would be good in NY, even though they probably won't win a title. Most of the title contenders already have a solid PG I think? But then most of them aren't Nash.

NoGunzJustSkillz
03-29-2012, 10:44 PM
If Nash is willing to sign with Miami, that means the Lakers can afford him as well, right?

Maneva
03-29-2012, 11:12 PM
same questions your asking though... this time Malone and Payton reputations.

Yeah it's a legit comparison. Definitely wasn't a fan of it then and I'm not a fan of it now.

Lebron23
03-29-2012, 11:15 PM
Nash needs to be the playing assistant coach for the Miami Heat. Steve is a better offensive coach than Spo.

Nash-tastic
03-29-2012, 11:44 PM
As a Nash fan, I rather see him on the Magic than the Heat

Nash-tastic
03-29-2012, 11:44 PM
Nash needs to be the playing assistant coach for the Miami Heat. Steve is a better offensive coach than Spo.
Orchestrating the offense on the court is completely different than off of it.

TMacsOneGoodEye
03-29-2012, 11:56 PM
Nash deserves a ring any way he can get it, but I don't see him helping the Heat too much. Nash is most effective when he has the ball in his hands and the ball is going to be in LeBron and Wade's hands. He would definitely provide leadership and bring the Heat closer together, but that team is already a roster of professional athletes who have been around awhile and don't really have a maturity problem.

Still, whatever Nash decides to do, I won't question him. He's earned it and deserves a ring.

SteveNashMVPcro
03-30-2012, 01:23 AM
As a Nash fan, I rather see him on the Magic than the Heat
This
Still I don't think Nash is going anywhere

I<3NBA
03-30-2012, 02:12 AM
If Nash is willing to sign with Miami, that means the Lakers can afford him as well, right?
yeah. But the article didn't say "Nash willing to listen to Lakers" now did it?

Spue
03-30-2012, 02:23 AM
This
Still I don't think Nash is going anywhere
I hope he does so we can finally rebuild

SteveNashMVPcro
03-30-2012, 02:31 AM
I hope does so we can finally rebuild
I don't think that Sarver has rebuilding in mind.He wants to make money and NAsh is the face of the whole team right now.Also we probably could sign a good FA this offseason and maybe become contenders

SunsCaptain
03-30-2012, 02:44 AM
As some1 stated earlier in where Nash can go?

He can pretty much go anywhere....If wants to chase down a ring...which i think we should have traded him personally but our front office...:facepalm

But anyways he will NOT go to LA i hope he doesnt go to miami...although if he did go to miami...im not going to lie that would make them fun to watch im sure they would be espns top 10 playseverytime they have a game...And it would most likely be his best chance at winning a championship...

Other than that idk where else he would go. NY?

wagexslave
03-30-2012, 03:41 AM
I don't think that Sarver has rebuilding in mind.He wants to make money and NAsh is the face of the whole team right now.Also we probably could sign a good FA this offseason and maybe become contenders

Yeah but we can sign TWO good FA's this offseason and be contenders once Steve Nash is out of here. Deron Williams + Eric Gordon anybody? If that doesn't sell tickets, I don't know what will. D-Will feeding Gordon and Gortat would be awesome.

It's time to let Steve go and we need to sign YOUNGER star players... Nashty is on his last legs. He's not someone we should be thinking about signing.

I<3NBA
03-30-2012, 04:20 AM
Other than that idk where else he would go. NY?
he could go to Minnesota. that team would be rocking with him. you saw how Rubio instantly made that team better. imagine them with Nash and Rubio as back up PG. that would be crazy.

SunsCaptain
03-30-2012, 04:44 AM
he could go to Minnesota. that team would be rocking with him. you saw how Rubio instantly made that team better. imagine them with Nash and Rubio as back up PG. that would be crazy.

Id be ok with this. My 2nd favorite team...What are the contract on ridnour? once again to lazy to look but i will check later...Or Barea?

I mean they got Rubio great passing PG Ridnour great shooting PG and then Barea as a great penitrator some1 who can run the fast break...Another PG would be overkill unless 1 of the contracts were expiring.

Faptastrophe
03-30-2012, 10:27 AM
Close your eyes for a second. Realize that LeBron hasn't ever had a player to create plays for him in the half court, he's almost always the guy distributing the ball in those
situations. Now imagine Nash on the Heat and LeBron not having to start slowwwwly at the top of the key, then try to run to the left or right, then stagger, then try again,
not make it, then try a jumper or kick it out for a reset.
Nash would make the Heat completely scary. I'm trying to think what other teams he'd be interested in realistically. The only one I can think of immediately is the Mavs
because of Dirk. But I think Nash is much more interested in getting the best chance to win at this point. He has to be eyeing the Wade, LeBron, Bosh feeds with ravenous
glee.
I can just see him jumping at the thought of that. He's made a ton of money, he just needs that ring.

d21221hk
03-30-2012, 10:39 AM
Please come to Toronto Nash

InfiniteBaskets
03-30-2012, 10:43 AM
Please come to Toronto Nash

Just to be in Canada? He's better off staying in Phoenix where everyone loves him.

highwhey
03-30-2012, 11:00 AM
As a Phx fan, I endorse this. Nash has given everything for this organization, the converse can't be said unfortunately. :facepalm Ride into the sun Steve!

finally we can tank :banana:

lottery picks here we come! son of a b1tches, you'll hear more about the suns in headlines in the next few years.

Bajanmale
03-30-2012, 11:22 AM
What's up with these players? Nash is one of my favorite players but I lost some respect for him with those comments. If we can't win the Championship with a clear advantage that are 3 top talented guys, we don't deserve it. stop this joining up crap! I hate that Lebron join my team and I would hate it more if Nash joined. Let's win the Championship with what we have, no more All star talent, it's getting ridiculous.

DirtySanchez
03-30-2012, 11:26 AM
Nash should go to TO to revive that fan base.

The Heat need a bigman if anything.
Of course having Nash would not hurt but they already got LeBron and Wade sharing control of the ball.

Pinkhearts
03-30-2012, 11:30 AM
What sort of Bigmen will be available next season?

If the heat can give a large part of the MLE for somelike like Przybilla they should do it instead of giving it to Nash

Whoah10115
03-30-2012, 12:50 PM
With Big V and Barganani, Toronto has two players that would be ideal in a Steve Nash system.



Add their high draft pick...I think Toronto is almost useless, but they really could do very well with Steve Nash. Add trading Calderon...



They could legitimately be a very good team next year. Very very good.




No chance of winning a title tho lol.

Crown&Coke
03-30-2012, 02:02 PM
Of course he will listen to the HEAT

but that being said, he already threw down what he thinks is his fair market value, he wants a multi-year deal (most likely 2 yrs) with the annual average close to what he gets now (10-11 mil per) when he spoke about wanting to come back to PHX and not ring changes earlier this year.

Miami can't offer that. Unless he settles for 3 mil per, he aint going to Miami.

Its actually more feasible he ends up back in Dallas with his buddy Dirk if they swing and miss on DWilliams.

nashwade
03-31-2012, 02:37 AM
as much as i would like to 2 my two fav players on the same team, Nash to Heat will fk up their defense

Nash should go to Dallas. No questions

Velocirap31
03-31-2012, 02:53 AM
As a Canuck and Raptors fan, I'd rather see Nash go somewhere that has a shot at the championship, not the Raptors. The Raptors won't be much better next year and Nash deserves another legit championship run. Plus, watching him on Miami would be pretty exciting.

Nash
03-31-2012, 03:39 AM
What's up with these players? Nash is one of my favorite players but I lost some respect for him with those comments. If we can't win the Championship with a clear advantage that are 3 top talented guys, we don't deserve it. stop this joining up crap! I hate that Lebron join my team and I would hate it more if Nash joined. Let's win the Championship with what we have, no more All star talent, it's getting ridiculous.
:lol What kind of fan hates that his team just got a lot better?

wagexslave
03-31-2012, 04:52 AM
As a Phx fan, I endorse this. Nash has given everything for this organization, the converse can't be said unfortunately. :facepalm Ride into the sun Steve!

finally we can tank :banana:

lottery picks here we come! son of a b1tches, you'll hear more about the suns in headlines in the next few years.
Imagine if we won the #1 pick in the lottery, AND signed D-Will and Eric Gordon and got rid of scrubs like Frye... would be the best offseason evar :bowdown:

Hey, I can dream right?

Bigsmoke
04-02-2012, 02:44 AM
lob city East at its finest

SunsCaptain
04-02-2012, 03:07 AM
I heard LeBron and Nash communicated?

LeBron is averaging a high number of assits and not taking as many shots in many peoples eyes...Maybe he wants the pressure of being the distributor lifted from his shoulders and become the main scorer with wade and let Nash control the offense. Nash if fine without shootign and only getting assists if gettign 20 assists a game and 0 points equals wins than nash if fine with that he only shotts win the team needs it.

This is a rare case where teams cant double nash or worry about him as much as they should.....Nash would be OP! with the heat... People would have to worry about Nash passing to LeBron or Wade? are you kidding me? Nash would have an insane number of assists and if they try to cover for the pass we know how easy he can score....

If this happens you would see the best team in the history of sports. Only problem is it wouldnt last long. Nash doesnt have to much time left.

People that dont think this work dont have in-depth basketball knowledge.