Durant is 37 points behind Kobe now... [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

All Net

03-31-2012, 06:41 PM

Obviously talking about the present..you drop out of school in the last two years?

How is last year any different to this year? Westbrook and Durant are playing the same way they always have done but better. So your statement was pretty odd to say the least. Durant not leading the league in scoring has nothing to do with Westbrook playing the wrong way.

He is scoring more and Harden is alot better this year scoring the ball so why should Durant need to average 30+?

guy

03-31-2012, 07:01 PM

I think its pretty much a given that he'll surpass Kobe. Best record in West+second best record in league+scoring title+better record then Lebron's team+Rose injured = almost a guaranteed MVP.

kileer7

03-31-2012, 07:16 PM

Interesting very interesting.

LABean

03-31-2012, 07:18 PM

He is also 5 rings behind Kobe. :confusedshrug:

Westbrook0

03-31-2012, 07:24 PM

How is last year any different to this year? Westbrook and Durant are playing the same way they always have done but better. So your statement was pretty odd to say the least. Durant not leading the league in scoring has nothing to do with Westbrook playing the wrong way.

He is scoring more and Harden is alot better this year scoring the ball so why should Durant need to average 30+?

Wrong. Westbrook's FGA have been going up each year and Durant's have been going down because of it. They now average the same amount of shots per game, despite the fact that KD is the two-time reigning scoring champ, averages more points and shoots a better percentage.

All Net

03-31-2012, 07:33 PM

Wrong. Westbrook's FGA have been going up each year and Durant's have been going down because of it. They now average the same amount of shots per game, despite the fact that KD is the two-time reigning scoring champ, averages more points and shoots a better percentage.

As I said Westbrook is improving and therefore taking more shots. Should he be taking the same or more shots than Durant? no but it's no surprise for him to be taking close to the amount. Afterall he is playing like a top 10 player this season. Him attacking is the Thunder's best interest. Thunder are one of the clear favourites if Westbrook keeps this level of play up.

My point was Westbrook playing like this is not hurting Durant or the Thunder.

MeLO MvP 15

03-31-2012, 07:36 PM

He is also 5 rings behind Kobe. :confusedshrug:
Because Durant has been in the league as long as Kobe.

:yaohappy: :kobe:

liquidrage

03-31-2012, 07:44 PM

Wrong. Westbrook's FGA have been going up each year and Durant's have been going down because of it. They now average the same amount of shots per game, despite the fact that KD is the two-time reigning scoring champ, averages more points and shoots a better percentage.

I would think Westbrook has taken more of the shots Jeff Green used to take more then away from KD considering the biggest reason Westbrook has to take a lot of shots is in the starting lineup there's only 2 scorers now. Which means 1 less person you want taking shots, and 1 less person you really worry about defending.

KD's FG attempts have been pretty static the last 4 years, including this one.

KD is also avg 1 more TO a game then last year, and that almost equals a shot attempt since 80% of the time happens on a drive from him.

LABean

03-31-2012, 07:44 PM

Because Durant has been in the league as long as Kobe.

:yaohappy: :kobe:

I'll leave it to you to bump this thread once "Durant gets more rings." :kobe:

Btw, what's Melo's excuse for not having a ring? :yaohappy:

livingby3's

03-31-2012, 07:47 PM

He is also 5 rings behind Kobe. :confusedshrug:

why does every kobe comparison thread have to end with kobe's 5 rings again?

LABean

03-31-2012, 07:49 PM

why does every kobe comparison thread have to end with kobe's 5 rings again?
Why does every comparison (any player) have to start with Kobe? :confusedshrug:

livingby3's

03-31-2012, 07:57 PM

Why does every comparison (any player) have to start with Kobe? :confusedshrug:

because for the simple rationale they're both the leading scorers in the nba right now and Kobe's the only guy for Durant to catch?

Durant probably going to top the scoring list by the end of the season though if Kobe continue to shoot this terrible.

Lebron23

03-31-2012, 08:01 PM

With one fewer game under his belt.

In other words, if he scored 37 against the Bulls tomorrow, they would have the exact same averages with the exact same amounts of games.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2uos0p3.jpg

alanLA92

03-31-2012, 08:09 PM

And your point is? Seriously what's the point of this stupid thread other than the obvious fact that Durant would lead over Bryant. One less game? :coleman:

Westbrook0

03-31-2012, 08:16 PM

And your point is? Seriously what's the point of this stupid thread other than the obvious fact that Durant would lead over Bryant. One less game? :coleman:

My point is, jackass, that Kobe was ahead of Durant by a comfortable margin, but after his terrible game today Durant is still within reach.

Now get the f*ck out of my topic.

rodman91

03-31-2012, 08:17 PM

Durant is going to be in a race with Wilt & Jordan if it goes like this.

Jordan 10
Wilt 7
Iverson 4
Gervin 4
Kobe 2
Durant 2 (23 years old)

alanLA92

03-31-2012, 11:56 PM

My point is, jackass, that Kobe was ahead of Durant by a comfortable margin, but after his terrible game today Durant is still within reach.

Now get the f*ck out of my topic.

Not trying to be a jackass just don't see the point of this thread. Make it when he passes him, not when he's a few points away. That's like making a thread about a team being 11 wins away from the title, what's the point?

And no you can't make me get out of this topic. :lol

Note: If my comment made you mad, I didn't mean to. Maybe I shouldn't of stated the word "stupid" because some people take it as a bad word.

Kiddlovesnets

04-01-2012, 12:56 AM

Well to some extent Kobe does not need to score that much like he had to early in the season nowadays, his teammates are stepping up.

The Iron Fist

04-01-2012, 01:19 AM

Because Durant has been in the league as long as Kobe.

:yaohappy: :kobe:
Kobe earned a ring by year four.

Dave3

04-01-2012, 01:25 AM

Kobe earned a ring by year four.
He also played with Shaq from year 1. What's the point of comparing the outcomes of two completely different situations? You really think year 4 Kobe was better than Durant? If not then what does it matter if he had a ring by then or not? The point is to wait until a player has ample opportunity to match the accomplishments, not compare year to year, because if you are comparing year to year, Durant wins each of years 1 to 4.

andgar923

04-01-2012, 01:31 AM

He also played with Shaq from year 1. What's the point of comparing the outcomes of two completely different situations? You really think year 4 Kobe was better than Durant? If not then what does it matter if he had a ring by then or not? The point is to wait until a player has ample opportunity to match the accomplishments, not compare year to year, because if you are comparing year to year, Durant wins each of years 1 to 4.

Of course they do.

That's Kobe stan logic.

Hittin_Shots

04-01-2012, 01:52 AM

He is also 5 rings behind Kobe. :confusedshrug:

Horry>Kobe

NumberSix

04-01-2012, 02:17 AM

Horry>Kobe
http://i.usatoday.net/Wires2Web/20120331/3591335936_Saudi_Arabia_Clinton_Mideastx-large.jpg

maybeshewill13

04-01-2012, 03:23 AM

Kobe earned a ring by year four.

But Durant doesn't have prime Shaq to carry him? :confusedshrug:

SyRyanYang

04-01-2012, 03:29 AM

Sadly no one noticed OP failed at maths. :(

spiegel

04-01-2012, 03:51 AM

Because Durant has been in the league as long as Kobe.

:yaohappy: :kobe:
Or had a prime Shaq

Westbrook0

04-01-2012, 01:05 PM

Sadly no one noticed OP failed at maths. :(

Uh, no? I was spot on.

Westbrook0

04-01-2012, 01:07 PM

Not trying to be a jackass just don't see the point of this thread. Make it when he passes him, not when he's a few points away. That's like making a thread about a team being 11 wins away from the title, what's the point?

People like you are one of my biggest internet pet peeves.

"Let's only discuss things AFTER they actually happen. There's no point trying to speculate what COULD happen."

So in your opinion, we shouldn't try to speculate on which teams will be in the Finals or which team has a good chance to win it all.

Let's make a topic when they actually win it all, right? Not when they simply look like they could.

That's kind of the whole point of a sports message board and talking sports in general, buddy. Talking about what is happening or could happen in those sports.

GOBB

04-01-2012, 01:26 PM

The funny thing about this will be if Durant passes Kobe? People rejoice, sing praises and give props. If he Durant doesnt pass Kobe? Its because Kobe was out to win this from the jump, he noticed how close Durant was and intentionally scored x amount of pts the rest of the season. :oldlol:

jstern

04-01-2012, 03:26 PM

Sadly no one noticed OP failed at maths. :(
I noticed it.

Westbrook0

04-01-2012, 03:46 PM

I noticed it.

I'm open to hearing where I went wrong, but no one seems to want to point it out.

jstern

04-01-2012, 04:55 PM

I'm open to hearing where I went wrong, but no one seems to want to point it out.

I think it was 43 points that he had to score. I'm going by memory, but yeah, 43 or 44.

Edit:

Kobe is averaging 27.9
Durant 27.7
So Durant needs to average 28. So the next game is game number 52, so 52 x 28 = 1,456.
So 1,456 – 1,412 (What he had through 51 games) = 44 Points
To tie Kobe he needed 39 Points

That's not counting today's games of course.

Westbrook0

04-01-2012, 05:00 PM

I think it was 43 points that he had to score. I'm going by memory, but yeah, 43 or 44.

Nope. 37 to tie and 38 to take the lead. Mike Tirico even clearly said that during the game today.

jstern

04-01-2012, 05:04 PM

Nope. 37 to tie and 38 to take the lead. Mike Tirico even clearly said that during the game today.

I edited my post, and wrote this

Kobe is averaging 27.9
Durant 27.7
So Durant needs to average 28. So the next game is game number 52, so 52 x 28 = 1,456.
So 1,456

Dave3

04-01-2012, 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=jstern]I edited my post, and wrote this

Kobe is averaging 27.9
Durant 27.7
So Durant needs to average 28. So the next game is game number 52, so 52 x 28 = 1,456.
So 1,456

jstern

04-01-2012, 05:36 PM

Durant needs to score 44 to average 28/game. Thing is though, he doesn't need to average 28 to be above Kobe. Kobe is averaging exactly 27.865. Durant would technically only need to average just above that (27.88 with 38) to be above Kobe, even though it wouldn't show up on NBA.com just because they only use one decimal place. In reality though, his scoring average would be higher.

Now you have me doing math.

Well at the time that this thread was started Kobe was averaging 28.19607

So Durant would to tie him would have needed 28.1907 x 52 = 1,465.9164 - 1,412 = 53.91 points yesterday to tie him.

The whole thing is giving me a headache. But yeah, I originally did the calculations including Kobe's game last night. But taking that game out, it turns out that Durant needed to score 54 points.

Ok, so far they have both played the same ammount of games, as right now. Kobe has 1,449 and Durant has 1,438. So Durant needs to out score Kobe by 11 points in their next games.

Dave3

04-01-2012, 05:42 PM

Now you have me doing math.

Well at the time that this thread was started Kobe was averaging 28.19607

So Durant would to tie him would have needed 28.1907 x 52 = 1,465.9164 - 1,412 = 53.91 points yesterday to tie him.

The whole thing is giving me a headache. But yeah, I originally did the calculations including Kobe's game last night. But taking that game out, it turns out that Durant needed to score 54 points.

Ok, so far they have both played the same ammount of games, as right now. Kobe has 1,449 and Durant has 1,438. So Durant needs to out score Kobe by 11 points in their next games.
No, it was made after Kobe's game (hence saying "and one game less than him") so you'd have to include Kobe's 3-21 game in there after which his average was 27.9 (or 27.865). His math was correct.

jstern

04-01-2012, 06:19 PM

No, it was made after Kobe's game (hence saying "and one game less than him") so you'd have to include Kobe's 3-21 game in there after which his average was 27.9 (or 27.865). His math was correct.

The original post has the time of 4:32pm my time, and the Laker's game was schedule for 3:30pm my time. But yeah, if it was started before the game, than 37 simply to technically pass Kobe.

LABean

04-01-2012, 11:45 PM

:kobe:

Scholar

04-01-2012, 11:50 PM

Durant will most likely end up surpassing Kobe, unless Kobe stops playing like complete sht and has some 40 pts games like earlier in the season.

40 so far tonight.

50inchvertical

04-02-2012, 12:04 AM

Not going to happen because we keep blowing teams out and he sits the whole 4th

alanLA92

04-02-2012, 12:40 AM

People like you are one of my biggest internet pet peeves.

"Let's only discuss things AFTER they actually happen. There's no point trying to speculate what COULD happen."

So in your opinion, we shouldn't try to speculate on which teams will be in the Finals or which team has a good chance to win it all.

Let's make a topic when they actually win it all, right? Not when they simply look like they could.

That's kind of the whole point of a sports message board and talking sports in general, buddy. Talking about what is happening or could happen in those sports.

I understand that but this isn't a thread about who has had the better career, who has the best chance at winning a ring this year, no this is a thread about how many points Durant needed to tie Kobe in ppg and games this yr . Which imo is a stat that doesn't really matter. Once he does it, fine make the thread since it would have a legit discussion. But I'm not going to say anything else otherwise. There's more things that can be talked about this yr and this isn't really one of them.

You can talk about a team's chances at a title but don't name it "Thunder need 16 more wins till title". Just name it "Thunder's chances at winning title".

rodman91

04-02-2012, 06:28 AM

Kobe : 28 FGA
Durant : 16 FGA

Last night. Almost twice as many shots. It will be interesting race between two though.

White Mamba

04-02-2012, 08:02 AM

Kobe : 28 FGA
Durant : 16 FGA

Last night. Almost twice as many shots. It will be interesting race between two though.

kobe shoot 28 for the first time in a long time, and it had to do with bynum out with injury also he shoot 57%.