2012 NCAA Final Four: Kentucky vs Louisville game thread

[alenleomessi]

http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/116456/1/watch-(4)-louisville-vs-(1)-kentucky.html

[alenleomessi]

wtf people no one watching? the first and potentially second pick are playing...

[b1imtf]

I'm here! Kentucky's fast start :bowdown:

[Tmuston Beltics]

That's not NBA!

[Vienceslav]

Kentucky engaging rape mode early.

[Tmuston Beltics]

Kentucky engaging rape mode early.

Yh, they lead by 6pts already. The game is over.

[alenleomessi]

That's not NBA!
future nba players :confusedshrug:

[Vienceslav]

Yh, they lead by 6pts already. The game is over.
It was over before it started.

[b1imtf]

Davis truly is amazing :bowdown:

[Miserio]

Davis is the MAN

[Clippersfan86]

wtf people no one watching? the first and potentially second pick are playing...

As a Clippers fan why do you care? We don't even have a pick :oldlol: . I only start researching players in the days leading up to draft.

[alenleomessi]

As a Clippers fan why do you care? We don't even have a pick :oldlol: . I only start researching players in the days leading up to draft.
well i dont know i just like young players with big potential
and clips have 2nd round pick dont they?

[Clippersfan86]

well i dont know i just like young players with big potential
and clips have 2nd round pick dont they?

Yes but I doubt a 2nd round pick is going to be anything on a team like the Clippers who already have a pretty full rotation. I wasn't dissing you.. just saying that's why I don't watch personally.

[GOBB]

So basically throw the ball up in the air and Davis will finish it. :bowdown:

I hope he goes to a team with a PG. Wizards or Cavs.

[RoseCity07]

I have a feeling NJ is winning the lottery. The NBA is going to want Anthony Davis in a big market.

[blacknapalm]

i think davis' offensive game is already more polished than mcgee's :lol he's been so active on defense too. most importantly, it's not just crazy athleticism. he's taking smart angles and has good fundamentals. he's gonna be a monster and impact games from the beginning

[AznTacoLover]

if only if portland could land davis :durantunimpressed:

[alenleomessi]

i think davis' offensive game is already more polished than mcgee's :lol he's been so active on defense too. most importantly, it's not just crazy athleticism. he's taking smart angles and has good fundamentals. he's gonna be a monster and impact games from the beginning
wow dude are u sure? :biggums:

[blacknapalm]

wow dude are u sure? :biggums:

not that lofty, is it? mcgee is adept at finishing hook shots with both hands. i think davis can do that. he just isn't asked to do it that often but he's done it this game already. ball handling? i'm pretty sure davis has him beat there too. face up game? davis has shown flashes

[GOBB]

I wouldnt say more polished but it aint that damn far off thats for sure. Sure Davis back to the basket game needs work. But McGee's doesnt? I've seen him try to post up and most of the time I laugh at the result. How long has he been in the NBA? Davis is a freshman and the fact his offensive game (which needs work) isnt far from McGee? That says more about McGee. Davis can pretty much score in the same fashion as McGee to me. The only thing that could hold Davis back whereas not so much with McGee is strength. Davis has to get stronger. But ally oops, garbage buckets/put backs? Cmon, I dont see why Davis cant do that especially with a good PG (Cavs/Wizs cmon Stern!).

Heck I've seen Davis put it on the floor and pull up. Mcgee? I never seen it and I havent watched every game of his. So maybe he has.

Bottomline? F*ck McGee offensive game. His mama is rolling in her grave. And his aunt.

[blacknapalm]

I wouldnt say more polished but it aint that damn far off thats for sure. Sure Davis back to the basket game needs work. But McGee's doesnt? I've seen him try to post up and most of the time I laugh at the result. How long has he been in the NBA? Davis is a freshman and the fact his offensive game (which needs work) isnt far from McGee? That says more about McGee.

i agree more or less. i guess i was just looking for a baseline comparison. i really do see davis' floor as a prime camby. less rebounds, bit more offense

[alenleomessi]

i was f*cking with you for even comparing anyone's offensive game to mcgee
he has NO offensive game

[GOBB]

i agree more or less. i guess i was just looking for a baseline comparison. i really do see davis' floor as a prime camby. less rebounds, bit more offense

Thats better than anything McGee will ever be in the NBA.

[blacknapalm]

i was f*cking with you for even comparing anyone's offensive game to mcgee
he has NO offensive game

:lol i thought you may be going that route. hard to pick up on sarcasm on the net sometimes :cheers:

[blacknapalm]

louisville needs to play more uptempo. davis with a back to the basket, right hook shot from the baseline

[wang4three]

Anthony Davis loves spinning with that left shoulder, who is he? Brook Lopez?

[The Macho Man]

He's got a twin sister? Poor girl must be ugly as hell:(

[LockoutOver11]

if only if portland could land davis :durantunimpressed:


hell nooooooo, that franchise only murders players careers

[Profound]

Good lord does Teague shoot look horrible :oldlol:

[LamarOdom]

if only if portland could land davis :durantunimpressed:

Hello? Roy? Greg Oden? You really want mr unibrow to meet the sam destiny as them?

[alenleomessi]

this game might go down the wire after all

[InspiredLebowski]

Good lord does Teague shoot look horrible :oldlol:Kid's been insanely overrated since like 10th grade. He's probably going to leave and washout in a couple years. Hope not, but I'd expect it.

[Profound]

Kentucky had a chance to put out Louisville away but letting them get all these offensive rebounds :facepalm

[Real Men Wear Green]

Comparisons are rarely perfect but I still like the Davis/KG one.

[wang4three]

I really like Dieng.

[O_City_Thunder]

Losing the game at the free throw line :facepalm

[b1imtf]

Oh shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[b1imtf]

MKG :rockon:

[Profound]

Kid's been insanely overrated since like 10th grade. He's probably going to leave and washout in a couple years. Hope not, but I'd expect it.
I don't completely count him out but he needs to stay for at least another year, I think he could be like his brother a solid point guard who can compete with other Pgs because of his athleticism. Who knows maybe he'll develop that 3 point shot like his brother but he's been really subpar even though he isn't ask to do a lot besides ball handling.

[TMT]

What's Kidd-Gilchrist's ceiling in the NBA?

[NumberSix]

College ball would be much better with a proper 3 point line

[GOBB]

What's Kidd-Gilchrist's ceiling in the NBA?

K.Leonard on the Spurs, if you are aware of him. G.Wallace with better handles

[InspiredLebowski]

What's Kidd-Gilchrist's ceiling in the NBA?Andre Igoudala w/ all Iggy's problems fixed. Coaches are going to LOVE that kid.

[Profound]

:facepalm What the hell was that pass

[cteach111]

so many opportunities for Louisville, wat a shame

[Profound]

Jones coming alive finally?

[blacknapalm]

damn, louisvile is missing everything around the cup

[alenleomessi]

dang game over

[TMT]

Louisville can't catch a break. Kentucky is too loaded.

[alenleomessi]

robinson vs sullinger next

[leopoldstotch]

louisville gave it their all today. they couldn't find a bucket at the end.

[Profound]

louisville gave it their all today. they couldn't find a bucket at the end.
They made the game closer than it should have been, I thought Kentucky was going to run away with it when they were up like 12 earlier.

[GOBB]

Advice, if you are driving to the rim? Go right into the chest of Davis. Otherwise? BLOCK.


robinson vs sullinger next

No way! Is it?!!! :eek:

[dbk123]

weird.... im actually more excited to see robinson vs sullinger than this game.

[TMT]

Damn Jones! :lebronamazed: That's the ballgame.

[GOBB]

That scrub T.Jones finally did something.

[leopoldstotch]

ruh roh ....

[TMT]

And Louisville potentially cutting it to 4? Damn, Kentucky cannot put them away.

[Profound]

:oldlol: Kentucky doing their best to keep Louisville around

[leopoldstotch]

that's game.

[Profound]

:applause: At breaking the press

[RoseCity07]

Anthony Davis is a beast.

[leopoldstotch]

for a 19 year old kid, anthony davis sure does have steady hands.

[TMT]

Anthony Davis is a man among boys!

[alenleomessi]

this is the first time this year i watched college bball and i have to say this unibrow guy is pretty damn good :lol

[GOBB]

Anthony Davis is a beast.

Davis >>>> Oden

[jamal99]

Jones was projected top 5 last year? Looks more like late 1st rounder to me...

Davis looked great ot there.

[GOBB]

this is the first time this year i watched college bball and i have to say this unibrow guy is pretty damn good :lol

:coleman:

He's only the player of the year.

[Profound]

**** I love MKG knows how to go up strong

[GOBB]

Anthony Davis needs braces. Looks like a vampire in True Blood

[RoseCity07]

Davis >>>> Oden

Oden would destroy Davis in a college game. Just saying.

[dbk123]

dam AD got some jacked up teef. dont matter hes still a beast though

[leopoldstotch]

out of the current top 3 lottery teams where is the best fit for anthony davis? bobcats? hornets? wizards?

[dbk123]

Oden would destroy Davis in a college game. Just saying.


strong avi to post content ratio

[GOBB]

out of the current top 3 lottery teams where is the best fit for anthony davis? bobcats? hornets? wizards?

Easily Wizards. Not even up for debate.

[irondarts]

Anthony Davis is dominant, he possesses so many skills, he even handled the ball up court on the last drive leading the MKG's dunk. He's the best NBA prospect in a while, just sayin'

I also love how strong MKG and Terrence Jones go up with the ball. Kentucky is the best college team I've seen in a while.

[Scoooter]

Oden would destroy Davis in a college game. Just saying.
I agree with this. Ohio State Oden would have just brushed him aside. Too skinny.

[Kujo]

Davis, and MGK are men amongst boys out there. They don't play like freshmen.

[alenleomessi]

:coleman:

He's only the player of the year.
well that doesnt say much... wasnt turner player of the year too? kemba last year too i think

[irondarts]

Easily Wizards. Not even up for debate.
How?

Bobcats are the better fit IMO. Davis and Bizmack :bowdown:

Wizards have a lot better front court talent than Cats.

Nene, Seraphin, Booker > Biyombo, Tyrus and Byron Mullens/Diop

Bobcats need Davis badly.

[alenleomessi]

How?

Bobcats are the better fit IMO. Davis and Bizmack :bowdown:

Wizards have a lot better front court talent than Cats.

Nene, Seraphin, Booker > Biyombo, Tyrus and Byron Mullens/Diop

Bobcats need Davis badly.
Wall> whatever PG plays for the bobcats

[GOBB]

well that doesnt say much... wasnt turner player of the year too? kemba last year too i think

Those players were BEASTS in college. Sorry it does say much. In fact it says a ton. :confusedshrug:

Did you see the performance Kemba put on the month of March last season? If not, perhaps youtube had them. Kid was amazing.

[GOBB]

How?

Bobcats are the better fit IMO. Davis and Bizmack :bowdown:

Wizards have a lot better front court talent than Cats.

Nene, Seraphin, Booker > Biyombo, Tyrus and Byron Mullens/Diop

Bobcats need Davis badly.

How? Wall and Davis. What more do you need? :confusedshrug:

Davis/Biyombo is meh. Wizards is a much better fit and destination for Davis.

[alenleomessi]

Those players were BEASTS in college. Sorry it does say much. In fact it says a ton. :confusedshrug:

Did you see the performance Kemba put on the month of March last season? If not, perhaps youtube had them. Kid was amazing.
im saying right now in nba.. they arent anything special... and even back in college they werent really expected to be big time players in nba... there might have been some believers in turner to be the next brandon roy but thats it...

davis is expected to be a BEAST in nba too... so that award doesnt do him justice

[leopoldstotch]

Easily Wizards. Not even up for debate.

I agree. Hopefully Nene wants to stay with Washington. A Nene, Davis, and Wall combination isn't too shabby in the Eastern Conference.

[irondarts]

How? Wall and Davis. What more do you need? :confusedshrug:

Davis/Biyombo is meh. Wizards is a much better fit and destination for Davis.
The Wizards would be better fitted for MKG

Wall and Davis would be nice, but the Bobcats need Davis more IMO.

Kemba
Gerald Henderson
Maggette
Anthony Davis
Bismack Biyombo


John Wall
Jordan Crawford
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Kevin Seraphin
Nene





Any team would love to have Davis, but I think the Bobcats need him more and the Wizards need a wing like MKG more than a big man.

[GOBB]

Wizards drafted Vesely/Singleton last draft. No way you pass up Davis for Seraphin. Bobcat may need him more because they flat out suck. This is about fit, and he fits like a glove with Washington as you give John Wall another basketball player with a clue. Wall/Davis is a duo you cant ignore.

You can find MGK easier than you can find Davis. Lets be real here.

[midatlantic09]

I honestly don't see what the big deal is about Davis and Gilchrist. Both will probably be decent NBA players, but I don't envision either of them being superstars.

If I had to guess, I'd go with Austin Rivers, Jeremy Lamb, and Thomas Robinson as three players from this upcoming draft that will end up being true superstars in the league.

[The Macho Man]

Based on the like 2 and a half Kentucky games I've seen I want Gilchrist on the Wizards. I'm also biased because of how much I hate Davis' unibrow.

[irondarts]

Wizards drafted Vesely/Singleton last draft. No way you pass up Davis for Seraphin. Bobcat may need him more because they flat out suck. This is about fit, and he fits like a glove with Washington as you give John Wall another basketball player with a clue. Wall/Davis is a duo you cant ignore.

You can find MGK easier than you can find Davis. Lets be real here.
True true. He'd fit in on both teams. Obviously Wiz will take Davis if they get the first pick, just saying the Bobcats need his presence tons, but then again, they need a lot of new players.

[irondarts]

I honestly don't see what the big deal is about Davis and Gilchrist. Both will probably be decent NBA players, but I don't envision either of them being superstars.

If I had to guess, I'd go with Austin Rivers, Jeremy Lamb, and Thomas Robinson as three players from this upcoming draft that will end up being true superstars in the league.
If you just watched this game, and you still don't think Davis is special, then well..I don't know.

He's one of the most dominant defensive forces in a while, he has an underrated offensive game and he plays really hard. Not to mention he's a really good ball handler and he runs the floor incredibly well and can score without needing plays run for him.

Once he gets stronger, he will be even more dominant and will be able to do more on the offensive end.

Also has unbelievable timing as a shot blocker, he has some of the best timing I've seen and possesses a huge wingspan which allows him to grab tons of rebounds.

[GOBB]

True true. He'd fit in on both teams. Obviously Wiz will take Davis if they get the first pick, just saying the Bobcats need his presence tons, but then again, they need a lot of new players.

Nah I totally agree with you that the Bobcats definately need him. I'm just a Davis fan and would rather him go to a team with a PG than some place like Charlotte. I'm just really sour on Charlotte as a bball franchise. From owner, mgmt.

[aj242]

Oden would destroy Davis in a college game. Just saying.

Destroy is a tad much but he would get the edge. Davis is still terrific though. Stating the obvious. He has to get stronger to truly be elite at the next level. Before anyone says a thing about Durant in the same situation.

It's apples & oranges. Durant is a wing & Davis is a true frontcourt player.

[irondarts]

Nah I totally agree with you that the Bobcats definately need him. I'm just a Davis fan and would rather him go to a team with a PG than some place like Charlotte. I'm just really sour on Charlotte as a bball franchise. From owner, mgmt.
The only team I could see passing on Davis First overall is Charlotte, MJ would probably take Harrison Barnes instead. Honestly I could see it happening which is why that franchise is doomed.

[GOBB]

If you just watched this game, and you still don't think Davis is special, then well..I don't know.

He's one of the most dominant defensive forces in a while, he has an underrated offensive game and he plays really hard. Not to mention he's a really good ball handler and he runs the floor incredibly well and can score without needing plays run for him.

Once he gets stronger, he will be even more dominant and will be able to do more on the offensive end.

Also has unbelievable timing as a shot blocker, he has some of the best timing I've seen and possesses a huge wingspan which allows him to grab tons of rebounds.

Agreed, and man imagine when he fills out his frame. If anything he'll be a DPOY candidate for years challenging Dwight Howard and whoever else is around when he pans out.

[irondarts]

One more thing about this game I wanted to say, and am wondering how others feel about this:

I really dislike Peyton Siva's game, he's a great athlete but he plays out of control, he's really fast but he penetrates and dribbles too much and is often out of control, he also makes a lot of bad decisions and dumb turnovers.

Wondering how others feel about him?

[GOBB]

im saying right now in nba.. they arent anything special... and even back in college they werent really expected to be big time players in nba... there might have been some believers in turner to be the next brandon roy but thats it...

davis is expected to be a BEAST in nba too... so that award doesnt do him justice

You said this was your first time watching Davis play and was impressed. So I mentioned he's only the player of the year meaning he dominated college all season long for the most part. And made his mark as one of if not the best shotblockers in college bball history. My point is if you were impressed with this game, you missed some other impressive moments in his freshman season. Thats all.

So winning that award means something in this regard.

[GOBB]

One more thing about this game I wanted to say, and am wondering how others feel about this:

I really dislike Peyton Siva's game, he's a great athlete but he plays out of control, he's really fast but he penetrates and dribbles too much and is often out of control, he also makes a lot of bad decisions and dumb turnovers.

Wondering how others feel about him?

Strictly a college player in my eyes. Good for Lville, but as far as future at the next level? I dont see it.

[Grinder]

I watched nearly every Kentucky game this year and I have no doubt about Davis being a superstar on the next level. Defensively, he's obviously a monster but his offensive game is rapidly improving. He's got a nice mid range J, can handle the ball well, has a soft touch around the basket, and has great hands for oops and putbacks. He runs the floor like a guard and has the frame to put on more muscle without compromising his athleticism.

Kidd-Gilchrist is a two way player in every sense of the word. His streaky jumper is literally the only weakness in his game. He's the only player in a long time that can warrant Pippen comparisons this early in his career. His motor never stops and he goes hard every possession.

Terrence Jones could be a top 5 pick if his head was in the game on a consistent basis. He's strong, athletic, versatile on the offensive end and can stuff the stat sheet. He's like a bigger, lefty Al Harrington.

Lamb is obviously instant offense and a lights out shooter. He's an NBA ready scorer off the bench.

Teague needs a lot of work, but you can see the talent. He plays a lot like his brother did in his rookie season.

Wiltjer is going to be a stud in two years. He's a great shooter, excellent passer, and can play in the post when he adds some strength.

Darius Miller knows how to play with NBA talent and has done it consistently for 4 years. He's got all the tools to be an effective role player in the NBA.

They've also got a kid transferring from NC State named Ryan Harrow who's a lightning quick point guard and will be great for them next season. Two other super athletic wings in Alex Poythress and Archie Goodwin will join him, so UK will be stacked once again.

Best prospect on Louisville has to be Wayne Blackshear. Missed most of the season with a torn ACL but you could see how athletic he was in this game and he's got a sweet shooting stroke. Probably a one and done.

Behanan is really undersized but he gets it done down low and there's no reason he can't be a Craig Smith type player.

Gorgui Dieng is raw offensively and old for his class but is obviously a big defensive presence. His shot blocking alone should get him NBA looks.

Russ Smith might be another prospect if he hones his point guard skills.

If Kyle Kuric was 6'6" he'd have a definite NBA future. He's very athletic and a really good shooter.

[irondarts]

Strictly a college player in my eyes. Good for Lville, but as far as future at the next level? I dont see it.
I agree. He won't be much in the NBA, he'd be a better SG at the next level but with his size there's no way that'll happen. He's definitely not going to be able to play PG in the NBA.

[irondarts]

I really like Terrence Jones. He's powerful and an incredible athlete. But the only question is, what position does he play in the NBA? I think he's a 4, probably a Josh Smith type. If he was quicker, he'd be at the 3 and be more tantalizing but he will be good at the 4.

Great athlete, powerful player, needs to work on his FT's, but I would easily take him in the lottery.

[GOBB]

I watched nearly every Kentucky game this year and I have no doubt about Davis being a superstar on the next level. Defensively, he's obviously a monster but his offensive game is rapidly improving. He's got a nice mid range J, can handle the ball well, has a soft touch around the basket, and has great hands for oops and putbacks. He runs the floor like a guard and has the frame to put on more muscle without compromising his athleticism.

Kidd-Gilchrist is a two way player in every sense of the word. His streaky jumper is literally the only weakness in his game. He's the only player in a long time that can warrant Pippen comparisons this early in his career. His motor never stops and he goes hard every possession.

Terrence Jones could be a top 5 pick if his head was in the game on a consistent basis. He's strong, athletic, versatile on the offensive end and can stuff the stat sheet. He's like a bigger, lefty Al Harrington.

Lamb is obviously instant offense and a lights out shooter. He's an NBA ready scorer off the bench.

Teague needs a lot of work, but you can see the talent. He plays a lot like his brother did in his rookie season.

Wiltjer is going to be a stud in two years. He's a great shooter, excellent passer, and can play in the post when he adds some strength.

Darius Miller knows how to play with NBA talent and has done it consistently for 4 years. He's got all the tools to be an effective role player in the NBA.

They've also got a kid transferring from NC State named Ryan Harrow who's a lightning quick point guard and will be great for them next season. Two other super athletic wings in Alex Poythress and Archie Goodwin will join him, so UK will be stacked once again.

Best prospect on Louisville has to be Wayne Blackshear. Missed most of the season with a torn ACL but you could see how athletic he was in this game and he's got a sweet shooting stroke. Probably a one and done.

Behanan is really undersized but he gets it done down low and there's no reason he can't be a Craig Smith type player.

Gorgui Dieng is raw offensively and old for his class but is obviously a big defensive presence. His shot blocking alone should get him NBA looks.

Russ Smith might be another prospect if he hones his point guard skills.

You think Shabazz goes to Kentucky? He has Duke, UCLA, Kentucky as his 3 final teams.

[ukfan22]

You think Shabazz goes to Kentucky? He has Duke, UCLA, Kentucky as his 3 final teams.

of course

[GOBB]

of course

Yeah I figure he ends up there. Maybe waiting to see who declares for the draft? Whats with the long wait though.

[Whoah10115]

If Charlotte gets the #1 pick, do people really think they'll pass on Anthony Davis?



In the case that they don't like the idea of a Biyombo/Davis duo, they could trade Biyombo and that could get net back a lot.



They could also trade the #1 pick, which (all things considered with Charlotte) wouldn't be the worst thing to ever happen.

[Grinder]

You think Shabazz goes to Kentucky? He has Duke, UCLA, Kentucky as his 3 final teams.

I think so. Harrow, Goodwin, Muhammad, and Poythress is an even more athletic group than this year's UK team. They won't be as good, but Shabazz could be better than MKG from what I've seen and Poythress has the chance to be special. Throw in Wiltjer and maybe Nerlens Noel, Anthony Bennett or one of the other good undeclared players and you've got another final 4 contender. Jon Hood should be back for UK as well so he'll give them another guy to space the floor.

[Stern]

Davis to Nets is a done deal.

[Whoah10115]

Davis to Nets is a done deal.




I really hope so.

[DeuceWallaces]

You guys are all off base. Monroe and Davis are gonna be 2sweet.

[alenleomessi]

Davis to Nets is a done deal.
didnt they trade their pick to the blazers?

[Kujo]

The only team I could see passing on Davis First overall is Charlotte, MJ would probably take Harrison Barnes instead. Honestly I could see it happening which is why that franchise is doomed.

Yeah, Bobcats fans should be nervous. I could see that happening as well.

I do think a Biyombo/Davis front court would be special. If the Bobcat's don't get the number pick, and MGK is available, they need to draft him. It's a no brainer.