Draft Busts For 2012

[Jotaro Durant]

predict them
mkg=ppl say hell be franchise for player????richard jefferson
anthony ugly ass unibrow nikka davis=ppl compare him garnet???????????????LOOOOOOL:roll: :roll: :roll: marcus camby:applause:

[RoseCity07]

I'm kinda thinking Drummond will be a bust. He just seems so slow and not a very good offensive player. I would still draft him if Portland gets the 4th pick.

[Stern]

Harrison Barnes

[ganja0710]

Why is you no good in Inglis?

[iDunk]

Andre Drummond - Will take a LONG time to develop, so long that teams might give up on him

Harrison Barnes - He'll be a solid player, but never an all star. Marvin Williams mold.

[StateOfMind12]

The 2012 NBA draft will be the worst NBA draft since the 2000 NBA draft.

I see nobody but future role players in this draft class. I see no star but the closest one I see to possibly being a star in this 2012 draft class is Andre Drummond. Drummond has been hyped since High school as the next great big man but he disappointed in College.

I can't think of a bust because I don't think any of them will actually be good in the first place.

[Jotaro Durant]

The 2012 NBA draft will be the worst NBA draft since the 2000 NBA draft.

I see nobody but future role players in this draft class. I see no star but the closest one I see to possibly being a star in this 2012 draft class is Andre Drummond. Drummond has been hyped since High school as the next great big man but he disappointed in College.
curious what u think about lamb, perry3, davis and mkg:confusedshrug:
agreed this draft so overrated. ppl saying 3 franchise players in it:facepalm many will disappointed in 4 years

[maybeshewill13]

Yeah this draft has been made out to be some insanely good, deep draft class.

I don't see it. That being said, someone might do a Kyrie Irving and surprise me.

[StateOfMind12]

curious what u think about lamb, perry3, davis and mkg:confusedshrug:
agreed this draft so overrated. ppl saying 3 franchise players in it:facepalm many will disappointed in 4 years
Davis will be a really good role player, Marcus Camby type player as you said. I don't think he will be a superstar or a franchise player like some people have made him out to be.

I think Lamb will be a good role player as well due to his shooting ability. I see him lasting a while in the league because of that. I see him as an advanced and more athletic version of JJ Redick.

I can see MKG as a defensive specialist type player but again, not a star player.


Yeah this draft has been made out to be some insanely good, deep draft class.

Really? Based off of what I've seen which actually isn't that much, these guys are not that good. I don't think any of them will be franchise players and I don't think any of them will be stars. Some of them may be lucky enough to be a 1-3x all-star but I don't see anything more than that.

[Fudge]

Harrison Barnes, Andre Drummond, and Sullinger, as i said before, will be busts depending when they get drafted. Guys like Brad Beal, Kidd-Gilchrist, Anthony Davis, Jeremy Lamb will be all-star calibur players, maybe even superstars.

Anybody wanna shed some light on Arnett Moultrie? Haven't really heard of the dude yet, but looks to be a lottery pick.

[kumquat]

Drummond is the Thabeet of this class.

[ralph_i_el]

Everyone is going to be a bust blah blah blah

everyone will dickride whoever their team drafts and like it :roll:

[Suckafree]

I seriously can't see how people think Anthony Davis will be a bust.

This dude is gunna be fricken amazing. A freshman has never blocked as many shots as he does, and his offensive game is already better than Cambys.

[(e)]

I see Harrison Barnes more of a Danny Granger. I don't think he becomes Danny Granger, but I see him being better than Marvin Williams, and fitting somewhere in between those guys. Him going to the right team could be a nice piece, place like Detroit or Cleveland.

I'd pick Sullinger as my bust pick. Next Sean May/Wayne Simien.

[KeyNote]

Harrison Barnes

yup

[maxhornets]

I think Drummond, Barnes and Sullinger will definitely be busts

[midatlantic09]

I personally think the following will be draft busts:

*Anthony Davis (if he goes top 3)
*MKG (if he goes top 5)
*Jared Sullinger (if he goes top 10)
*Harrison Barnes (if he goes top 5)
*Andre Drummond (if he goes top 3)


...and those who I think will end up being better in the NBA than predicted:

*Austin Rivers
*Jeremy Lamb
*Tony Wroten (if he comes out)
*Brad Beal

[irondarts]

Don't understand why in the hell some of you think Anthony Davis will be a role player at best, have you watched him play? He handles the ball like a guard, he's already a dominant defensive forces, he has an underrated offensive game and plays hard and is a great rebounder, as long as he adds strength to his lower body, he will be just as good in the NBA. Not to mention he has a high basketball IQ and a good attitude and he plays hard all the time. Please tell me how he's only going to be a role player, or even a bust?

The Busts in this draft IMO will be:

Andre Drummond simply because he's not nearly ready yet, he needs 3 years in college, but he'll go pro and will bust IMO.

Harrison Banres - He could either be a star or a bust, overall not a top talent.

Perry Jones - He has all the tools but he disappears in games too much.

[Jotaro Durant]

I personally think the following will be draft busts:

*Anthony Davis (if he goes top 3)
*MKG (if he goes top 5)
*Jared Sullinger (if he goes top 10)
*Harrison Barnes (if he goes top 5)
*Andre Drummond (if he goes top 3)


...and those who I think will end up being better in the NBA than predicted:

*Austin Rivers
*Jeremy Lamb
*Tony Wroten (if he comes out)
*Brad Beal
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[StateOfMind12]

...and those who I think will end up being better in the NBA than predicted:

*Austin Rivers
*Jeremy Lamb
*Tony Wroten (if he comes out)
*Brad Beal
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I think Rivers will be a bust although he is projected to be a mid first round pick which isn't that high and isn't filled with much expectations. Rivers should really just stay in school for another year or two. I don't think Austin is ready yet.

I forgot about Sullinger for some reason and I do think he could be an all-star. Is it official that he'll go to the draft though?

[jb220]

I luv how thee haters are sayin' tht Austin Rivers has no shot in tha L. Have ya really not seen n e of his games? Dude is strong, he got that strentgh, he's fast, he's got tht speed, he can peterenate, split defedenders... he's gonna be good.

[ganja0710]

You could tell Rivers has that killer instinct you like to see in young guys. If he follows some of the right footsteps in the league, then I think he can flourish and be an All star at least. And idiots putting down Davis as a bust clearly only seen the championship game and judged him solely off that. "ZomG he went 1-10 from the field, he has no offense in his game at all!" :oldlol:

[midatlantic09]

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I think Rivers will be a bust although he is projected to be a mid first round pick which isn't that high and isn't filled with much expectations. Rivers should really just stay in school for another year or two. I don't think Austin is ready yet.


I can't agree with you on this. I've followed Rivers since his sophomore year in high school and I think he'll will end up averaging something like 22 pts/4 rebs/6 ast at his peak in the NBA. The guy has an incredible first step, a decent jumper, excellent handles, can pretty much get to the hoop or create his own shot whenever he wants, has a high basketball IQ, seems like the type who will literally do whatever it takes to improve drastically each year, and has done very well against current NBA players in summer league games. If he were a legit 6'6, he'd be a top 3 pick in the draft.

Trust me when I tell you he was ranked the #1 high school bball player in America by Rivals and #3 by ESPN and Scout for a reason.

[senelcoolidge]

Rivers can't dribble to his left and can't play defense. He's going to be a scrub. He will sit on someone's bench for a few years and either wash out or become a decent player with hard work. But it's going to take awhile.
Drummond is very raw. Not sure what kind of work ethic he has, but he has a high bust potential.
I think Davis will be a good player. He could be a Dwight Howard with less strength, but with a jumper. He could also be a Marcus Campy. Or even a Pervis Ellison who came out of school very skilled but never lived up to his potential.
Sullinger if he's a hard worker could become a solid player, but I don't see him being anything extra.
Barnes could be a bust. It really depends where he plays and how he's used.
This draft should have solid players..but it's not a great draft as advertised.

[AAckley1]

Rivers = Tyreke Evans...he's essentially a scrub if the ball isn't in his hands. He checks out on plays drawn up for Curry

MKG & Davis are the only two players in the draft who will earn All-NBA honors in this draft.

Davis will have a 15/10/3/3 season at least once in his career. He's as close to a lock for at least one DPOY as I've ever seen. He comes in and adds 15 wins to a team next year strictly because of his effort and defensive acumen.

MKG has that "it" factor that is just visible when watching some players. His performance in the title game really impressed me on multiple levels. He was getting HAMMERED in the post with no fouls getting called & didn't appear flustered once. He's a Top 20 on-ball wing defender by his second season in the NBA. I see no situation where MKG doesn't at least = Gerald Wallace.

[InspiredLebowski]

Are any of the OP's post more than 3 sentences?

[Cermet]

You should ask the ones who are responsible for Blazers draft choices they seem to have a good eye on busts :)

[miggyme1]

idk y people are so quick to label a player a bust.i feel like the only way a player becomes a bust is if he is one of two things...always hurt or never gets playing time for lack of skills and is out of the league in two to three years.none of these guys will be that.lets just face it.u cant even really call kwame brown a bust,he was overreated.he should have never came out of high school.never ever.greg oden is a bust.hasheem thabeet should be a bust but teams keep giving him the benefit of the doubt just because he is like 7'3 with a 7'10 wingspan.

[CardiacKemba]

Sullinger, Drummond, Barnes.

Kidd-Gilchrist and Lamb could go either way.

Rivers will end up a poor mans Ellis.

Not sure if Davis will live up to the 'hype' or franchise tag he's being promoted as, but I think he will be successful enough to not be considered a bust.

[brandonislegend]

idk but this dude looks real nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHBDW6tNcvo

[Noof]

I only caught a few UConn games, but Drummond was invisible.

[ukfan22]

Rivers = Tyreke Evans...he's essentially a scrub if the ball isn't in his hands. He checks out on plays drawn up for Curry

MKG & Davis are the only two players in the draft who will earn All-NBA honors in this draft.

Davis will have a 15/10/3/3 season at least once in his career. He's as close to a lock for at least one DPOY as I've ever seen. He comes in and adds 15 wins to a team next year strictly because of his effort and defensive acumen.

MKG has that "it" factor that is just visible when watching some players. His performance in the title game really impressed me on multiple levels. He was getting HAMMERED in the post with no fouls getting called & didn't appear flustered once. He's a Top 20 on-ball wing defender by his second season in the NBA. I see no situation where MKG doesn't at least = Gerald Wallace.

Davis could average that as a rookie

[Kebab Stall]

Drummond needs to do what Greg Monroe did and stay in college for another year. He can go pro after 1 year, but it's not a smart decision, he needs another year to develop his game.

Don't understand the hate for Davis, he is ready I think. He's smart, he can dribble extremely well, he can run with the ball, he's insanely long and can rebound and block shots like nobody else.

The only problem I see is that he just doesn't have enough strength or weight behind him. That's gonna cost him at the NBA level. Sure, he's got quickness and agility, but the guy is still pencil thin. That quickness is not going to do anything for him in the post in the NBA, unless he gets stronger.

I don't think he's going to become anything spectacular on the offensive end, but I can see him becoming one of the best defensive players in the league for a long time to come.

[InspiredLebowski]

People're hating on Davis so they can bump threads in 3 years if he blows out his knee like they knew something no one else did. Then they remember he turned 19 like 3 weeks ago and that whole "HOLY SHIT HE DOESN'T WEIGHT 250!" shit sounds even stupider. This time of year is what sucks for the draft prospects. People watch 4 games of Player X andhe's not current Dwight or Lebron so he must not be any good.

Davis is a legitimate franchise maker. If it weren't for Jordan being a complete moron I'd be incredibly happy for Bobcats fans. The fans absolutely deserve him, the management doesn't at all.

[blablabla]

drummond the next bigman with raw game but massive potential

[blacknapalm]

People're hating on Davis so they can bump threads in 3 years if he blows out his knee like they knew something no one else did. Then they remember he turned 19 like 3 weeks ago and that whole "HOLY SHIT HE DOESN'T WEIGHT 250!" shit sounds even stupider. This time of year is what sucks for the draft prospects. People watch 4 games of Player X andhe's not current Dwight or Lebron so he must not be any good.

Davis is a legitimate franchise maker. If it weren't for Jordan being a complete moron I'd be incredibly happy for Bobcats fans. The fans absolutely deserve him, the management doesn't at all.

agreed. i think some people aren't understanding growth spurts. it takes time to fill out. your bones grow while your muscles, tendons and ligaments get stretched. ask anybody who had a big growth spurt...it can be painful and not fun. you're basically all gangly and all limbs.

anyway, look at camby in college. he wasn't much bigger than davis is now. davis has broad shoulders so i think he has the frame to add weight. and if he becomes wiry strong like KG or crash wallace, is that such a major downfall? he'll be fine in this era of big men. it's not like he's going to be facing shaqs and ewings and tons of guys with back to the basket games. he'll get backed down early in his career as he gains weight but again, i don't see much problem once he starts lifting more.

i think people are getting ahead of themselves and picturing prime duncan when any sort of comparison is made. obviously, scouts can only project and look at their games at respective ages. it's unfair to both guys otherwise.

as far as MKG, i think his high motor will always keep him relevant. do i see a high ceiling? not really. however, he seems smart enough and has the work ethic to be relevant. at the least, he can be a potential defensive stopper who should be able to rebound and get some putbacks. guys like that usually find ways to stick around.

now for busts, i'm not feeling drummond or barnes. i'm no huge fan of austin rivers or robinson either. beal could go either way - i wonder if he's able to create off the dribble enough. meeks was a great scorer in college but suffers from the same problem and its hindered his nba game

[Kiddlovesnets]

Andre Drummond - Will take a LONG time to develop, so long that teams might give up on him

Harrison Barnes - He'll be a solid player, but never an all star. Marvin Williams mold.

Well it seems that Harrison Barnes is more NBA-ready than Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and perhaps every small forward in this draft class.

Also people have been dissing this draft class 'cause no one put up stats like Kevin Durant and Michael Beasley did. This is a joke, come on, you cant get more than 15ppg in a team like UK when your teammates have to share shots. Place any starting five of UK in a team barely making it to the NCAA tournament and you see him averaging 25ppg.

[midatlantic09]

Davis could average that as a rookie

Doubtful. You guys are putting way too much stock into that guy.

[midatlantic09]

People're hating on Davis so they can bump threads in 3 years if he blows out his knee like they knew something no one else did. Then they remember he turned 19 like 3 weeks ago and that whole "HOLY SHIT HE DOESN'T WEIGHT 250!" shit sounds even stupider. This time of year is what sucks for the draft prospects. People watch 4 games of Player X andhe's not current Dwight or Lebron so he must not be any good.

Davis is a legitimate franchise maker. If it weren't for Jordan being a complete moron I'd be incredibly happy for Bobcats fans. The fans absolutely deserve him, the management doesn't at all.

:lol

[CelticBaller]

Drummond is the Thabeet of this class.
except drummond has an nba ready body unlike thabeet. and OP, Marcus Camby would go 1# on any of the last drafts

[bballnoob]

Jones is my bust candidate (would he go top 10?). Skill level just isn't there as far as him sticking and defending at the 3 position and all the tweener cliches apply to him playing the 4. As mentioned, his motor is not all that impressive either.

Can't see Davis merely being a role player. With his fluidity and IQ on offense already, I don't see what makes him that much worse than most rookie big men that entered the league.

[ZHAKIDD532]

I have a feeling one of the guys who's stock has fallen since last year like Barnes, Sullinger, or Jones is going to turn out to be an absolute steal for a team later in the lottery. Really depends on the situation they end up in. Barnes on the right team could be a great piece for someone.

[AAckley1]

Davis could average that as a rookie

People on this board severely over-rate 99% of players peak & average seasons before looking at current players when doing so.

The guy who says Rivers will peak at 23/4/6... Only like 5 guys in the NBA are putting up stats like that right now & Austin Rivers isn't D-Wade or Russell Westbrook.

15/10/3/3 for Davis as a rookie is absolutely absurd. Serge Ibaka is the only player in the league currently averaging over 3 blocks a game. In addition, Davis is acquiring most of his rebounds at the college level due to understanding of rebounding angles, athleticism & his insane wingspan. Multiple times during the title game, Robinson & Withey moved Davis out of position for rebounds & that is only going to continue at the pro level until his lower body strength increases. All these factors add up to suggest that Davis will have a below expectation rookie season unless the team who drafts him puts him in a high post or triple threat oriented offense that allows him to use his guard skills in combination with his excellent height to facilitate the offense.

[ralph_i_el]

People on this board severely over-rate 99% of players peak & average seasons before looking at current players when doing so.

The guy who says Rivers will peak at 23/4/6... Only like 5 guys in the NBA are putting up stats like that right now & Austin Rivers isn't D-Wade or Russell Westbrook.

15/10/3/3 for Davis as a rookie is absolutely absurd. Serge Ibaka is the only player in the league currently averaging over 3 blocks a game. In addition, Davis is acquiring most of his rebounds at the college level due to understanding of rebounding angles, athleticism & his insane wingspan. Multiple times during the title game, Robinson & Withey moved Davis out of position for rebounds & that is only going to continue at the pro level until his lower body strength increases. All these factors add up to suggest that Davis will have a below expectation rookie season unless the team who drafts him puts him in a high post or triple threat oriented offense that allows him to use his guard skills in combination with his excellent height to facilitate the offense.


That dosen't seem absurd to me at all. maybe he'll come in a little bit under 10 rebounds, but i see him getting close to 3 blocks a game as a real possibility.

Also, whatever team drafts him isn't going to have a lot going for them (see: bobcats, wizards, hornets), so they can afford to adjust their offense to accommodate him while he adjusts to the NBA.

[DStebb716]

Wroten and Nicholson are both going to be steals.

[JustinJDW]

Davis and MKG got star potential written all over them. Sullinger and Barnes can go either way depending on where they get drafted, but I think Barnes has the higher ceiling. Haven't watched much of Drummond.

Austin Rivers though, really should stay in school for another year. I haven't seen another player in years that would benefit so much from it. I know he wants to get paid, but right now I don't see him doing anything in this league for at least a good 3-4 years. NBA defenders will eat him alive. I always wonder, what the hell does Coach K tell these kids?

[bagelred]

I really want the Knicks to draft Fab Melo. Just for comedy purposes.

[el gringos]

Not playing up to what nbadraftnet or draftexpress has them right now is not a bust- they are always wrong, talent evaluation is the rarest skill in sports managment and if the people that do those sites were great they'd be working for an nba team. The busts will only be guessed at when you see actual draft position and opportunity on a team





The opposite of busts will be Jared cunningham and elias harris, 2 untatlked about players that will shine if given the chance

[JMT]

Drummond looks like a pro until he steps on the court. He'll flop.

Perry Jones is another who will be a bust. Tremendous athlete, marginal basketball skill/IQ.

Barnes shrinks from contact and pressure situations. His shooting will keep him in the league, but he's not a lottery level player.

[Kingwillball]

MKG will NEver be an Elite Scorer but he can Easily be a 15,8,6 type of Player in a couple years with Excellent Defense..

Davis is a Stud no Question .. I see Davis Averaging 13,9,3 as a Rookie..Dude has an Uncanny Shotblocking ability and is an Underrated offensive player with alot of Room for Improvement. Davis can Top off in a few years between 16-20 ppg, 12 Rebounds and 3 Blocks with Excellent Defense.

[veilside23]

drummond and perry jones if they are drafted in top 5...


not to sold with Trob. I have a feeling Sullinger may have a better impact.

MKG = gerald wallace type of player.

Davis = maybe a better marcus camby.

Barnes = depends if he start right away might do wonders for his career. cleveland maybe the place.

[Kingwillball]

BTW_ I doubt ANYONE would think Kevin Love would be averaging almost 26 and 14 at any point in his Career.. If Somebody asked me a few Years ago I would sax Max potential would be 18 and 10.. There is ALWAYS guys who Surprise or play better than Expected as much as there is Busts..

[Joshumitsu]

You should ask the ones who are responsible for Blazers draft choices they seem to have a good eye on busts :)

Speaking of which, Sullinger has bust potential.

The reason being that he is an injury prone big man from Ohio State with one leg supposedly longer than the other.

[JMT]

not to sold with Trob. I have a feeling Sullinger may have a better impact.



I'm not as in love with Robinson as most are either (though I don't see Sullinger being more than a journeyman/Big Baby).

Kansas ran their offense through Robinson at least in part because they had nobody else who could score out of a half court set. He's a big, athletic junior, a grown man; you don't see that many of those guys in college ball anymore. By that point they're usually gone to the pros. Also had the advantage of playing on a front line next to Withey. He's nothing special, but his length makes it a whole lot easier for everyone else.

I'm more impressed by Terrence Jones. His first basket, where he faced up Robinson and blew by him for the hoop showed me more pro potential than anything I saw from Robinson.

[DuMa]

so saying a lottery will be a long tenured player like richard jefferson or marcus camby is your defintion of a bust? :facepalm. a bust is someone who is out of the league or not playing by their 3rd year.

[senelcoolidge]

Guys that I think will be nice players/not all stars that are never talked about or maybe over looked are (good 2nd round picks)
Elias Harris 6-8 athletic small forward
Scott Machado 6-1 pure point guard, could become an excellent back up point guard
Ken Horton 6-6 can score.
Kyle O'Quinn 6-10 big man, rebounder, good character guy
Orlando Johnson 6-5 shooting guard that is not afraid of contact, slasher can hit shots. A Marshon Brooks type game.
Chace Stanback 6-8, Kyle Weems 6-6, Cameron Moore 6-10, Zane Johnson 6-6, and Micheal Snaer 6-4 are other guys that could make teams.
I like CJ McCollum 6-3 from Lehigh, but I think he will stay for his senior year.

[PK3434]

I'm kinda thinking Drummond will be a bust. He just seems so slow and not a very good offensive player. I would still draft him if Portland gets the 4th pick.

He could definitely be a bust but he is far from slow...End to end he was the fastest player on UConn's team this year besides boatright..he just doesn't really know how to play basketball...he isn't a smart player at all and he doesn't use his athletic gifts to his advantage often...as a uconn fan, he was very frustrating to watch this year.

[outbreak]

Davis and Kidd-Gilchrist will be stars/borderline stars. The rest of the draft will likely end up being solid role players maybe one or two late surprises. The reason this draft is hyped isn't the star potential it's the fact that you have a first round that is full of talent all the way through. In any other year half the guys going in the 20's would probably be lottery picks and we'll likely see most of them make solid NBA careers.

[Noyze]

Remember When.......

Tim Thomas was better then Kobe?
DerMarr Johnson was gonna be better then T-Mac?
We were told Rafael Araujo had great hands?
Nikoloz Tskitishvili was gonna be the next Dirk?
Andrea Bargnani was gonna be the next Dirk? (he still sucks imo)
Keith Van Horn...?
They tried to convince us Tyler Hansbrough wasn't just another college superstar?
Darius Miles was gonna average 17-7-7 in Cleveland and be a franchise player?
Atlanta grabbed another SF, Marvin Williams, instead of Deron or CP3?
Yi Jianlian's birth certificate?
Mike Dunleavy Jr. was gonna be as good as Bird?
Kevin McHale traded Brandon Roy cause he was told his knees wont last more then 5 years.?

[BankShot]

predict them
mkg=ppl say hell be franchise for player????richard jefferson
anthony ugly ass unibrow nikka davis=ppl compare him garnet???????????????LOOOOOOL:roll: :roll: :roll: marcus camby:applause:

Who says Kidd-Gillchrist will be a franchise player?? His defense and motor are intense and will be infectious, but he's incredibly raw offensively.

As for Davis.... he too is raw offensively, but has guard-ish skills from playing the majority of his live on the perimeter.

Why is Marcus Camby a bad thing?? DPOY, 4x All-NBA Defense, and he led the league in blocks 4 times. Yeah, not a franchise cornerstone.... but that floor is quite frankly solid as f*ck.

Why so mad?? :rolleyes:

[BankShot]

Last but not least.... why is everyone such a d*ck about Davis' uni-brow??

He's obviously more comfortable in his own skin than most of you are in your own.... and quite frankly 6 months from now he'll have like $60 million guaranteed between his rookie contract and his inevitable sneaker deal.

He absolutely couldn't care less about what a bunch of internet dorks think about his appearance.

[PP34Deuce]

Drummond is an enigma...If a team drafts him high and can work hard for 3 years with him you'd have a 21 year old Athletic legit 7 footer who could physically match the Dwights,Bynums,Gasols of the world. I do think he will be a bust if you draft him top 7.

Call me crazy but I think Sullinger will have a nice impact...Hes going to be drafter 10-15 because he's not a workout warrior like Perry Jones III will be... But he's got fundamentals and if he gets a Tim Grover type conditioning workout coach...he will move to his potential all a Boozer. People like Luis Scola and Randolph...Sullinger can be in that mold.

Don't believe in Barnes...Any time I see a player wilt in competition in BIG games, its a red flag to me. above average athlete, great length but I swear the guy plays like a 6'3 combo guard.

Ive already said what I feel about Davis.

Gilchrist is as safe as you can get at swingman. great athlete,wingspan,strength,NBA built already at 19. He's not as freakish as Gerald Wallace is but I see a Wilson Chandler type impact...great glue guy and starter perfect 3rd option, good 2nd option

Beale and Rivers will be good Combo guards. Great 6th men, very good starters if they both can prove to defend at NBA level

Would love to get Lamb on Boston. Great shooter, athletiscm perfect 2 guard size.

Miller is a tweener. Great athlete face up player...I didn't see much posting from him but if he could show lil more strength he'd have the body of a proto PF.

Robinson to me is an athlete playing basketball. Didn't see a jumper, or fundamentals but he's got great energy and won't be outworked.

[Whoah10115]

Perry Jones should probably fall to the Suns and be played at the 4. Seems a perfect fit for a team like that. Or, if Nash leaves, any team that he goes to.

[midatlantic09]

Davis and MKG got star potential written all over them. Sullinger and Barnes can go either way depending on where they get drafted, but I think Barnes has the higher ceiling. Haven't watched much of Drummond.

Austin Rivers though, really should stay in school for another year. I haven't seen another player in years that would benefit so much from it. I know he wants to get paid, but right now I don't see him doing anything in this league for at least a good 3-4 years. NBA defenders will eat him alive. I always wonder, what the hell does Coach K tell these kids?

You're going to look quite foolish when I bump this in 3 years.

[Meticode]

I think some people judge Anthony Davis because he has a uni-brow and they don't like that. In the back of their mind they're thinking, "That dude is never going to be an all-star with that uni-brow." :oldlol:

[EnoughSaid]

Larry Brown said that whichever team gets Davis, will win 50 games no matter what. :roll:

[EvanW]

I don't think Drummond will be a bust. That UConn team this year was a mess. There was no leadership and the team was never playing right. Yeah, he's raw offensively and has bad footwork, but I don't think you can put too much blame on HIM since he was playing on a team that pretty much didn't care about this season.

Otherwise this draft is interesting as hell, if you ask me. It has a ton of guys who could be either really good, based on potential, or totally average.

[EvanW]

I think some people judge Anthony Davis because he has a uni-brow and they don't like that. In the back of their mind they're thinking, "That dude is never going to be an all-star with that uni-brow." :oldlol:I just wonder why the hell WON'T Davis be good? Honestly, a 19 year old kid playing defense as effectively as he does is incredibly rare, especially for a shot blocker. As much as he blocks, he almost never drew fouls, which is incredible.

I'd be willing to bet that if Davis had just 10 or so extra pounds of muscle on him, people would be calling him the next Tim Duncan. IMO the one and only big knock on him is how thin he is. He'll bulk up.

[Sarcastic]

Drummond won't be a bust. He just messed up and picked a school that didn't feature him as the main option. His size and athleticism are off the charts for his age.

[RedBlackAttack]

Drummond won't be a bust. He just messed up and picked a school that didn't feature him as the main option. His size and athleticism are off the charts for his age.
I'm not going to deny his massive potential and athleticism and I'd even be in favor of my Cavs drafting him if Davis, MKG and Beal are off the board (I have he and Beal close)... But, to completely blame his lack of production on UConn is giving him a pass that he doesn't deserve.

With his size and athleticism, he should have been more productive simply on accident than he was on purpose for the majority of the season.

In the biggest game he has ever played -- the first round matchup against Iowa State -- he scored 2 points and had 3 rebounds in 26 minutes and was thoroughly and completely outplayed on both ends by Royce White.

There is no excuse for that kind of performance by a player of his talent in a situation like that... Not the team, the coaches, the gameplan... Nothing.

He was the least impactful starter on the floor for either team.

[magnax1]

I really doubt that Sullinger as he currently plays will ever amount to much in the NBA. A capable starter maybe, but definitely not an all star.

[Whoah10115]

Davis is hardly that thin. He's naturally a thinner guy but he's not skinny like Garnett still is or anything. And his frame just erupted the way it has. It's obvious he's going to naturally fill out, even without hitting the weight room.

[Sarcastic]

I'm not going to deny his massive potential and athleticism and I'd even be in favor of my Cavs drafting him if Davis, MKG and Beal are off the board (I have he and Beal close)... But, to completely blame his lack of production on UConn is giving him a pass that he doesn't deserve.

With his size and athleticism, he should have been more productive simply on accident than he was on purpose for the majority of the season.

In the biggest game he has ever played -- the first round matchup against Iowa State -- he scored 2 points and had 3 rebounds in 26 minutes and was thoroughly and completely outplayed on both ends by Royce White.

There is no excuse for that kind of performance by a player of his talent in a situation like that... Not the team, the coaches, the gameplan... Nothing.

He was the least impactful starter on the floor for either team.

He averaged 10/7.6/2.7 blocks on 54% with a team that featured Napier and Lamb, and made him share the post with Oriakhi. He's already got the size for the NBA, unlike Davis who is rail thin. With proper development, he will be one of the best players in the NBA within the next 4 years. Saying he is a bust or anything close to that based off of his freshman year when he was a third option is just :facepalm

[Rowe]

I'm not going to deny his massive potential and athleticism and I'd even be in favor of my Cavs drafting him if Davis, MKG and Beal are off the board (I have he and Beal close)... But, to completely blame his lack of production on UConn is giving him a pass that he doesn't deserve.

With his size and athleticism, he should have been more productive simply on accident than he was on purpose for the majority of the season.

In the biggest game he has ever played -- the first round matchup against Iowa State -- he scored 2 points and had 3 rebounds in 26 minutes and was thoroughly and completely outplayed on both ends by Royce White.

There is no excuse for that kind of performance by a player of his talent in a situation like that... Not the team, the coaches, the gameplan... Nothing.

He was the least impactful starter on the floor for either team.
Disagree.

You do have to acknowledge that UConn's basketball team last season was a mess following the loss of Kemba Walker & Jim Calhoun to a lesser extent. Hes starting to remind me of Bob Knight towards the end at Indiana, his time has past and hes holding on because he doesn't want to walk way. They made no effort to feed the ball in the post to Oriakhi or Drummond as Shabazz Napier tried to do his Kemba Walker impression, because UConn's ball movement has been terrible for several years but Kemba being successful made that become overlooked. Also Alex Oriakhi is the most overrated player in the country apparently since he's being considered by multiple top schools thinking hes a "force" in the paint. Everytime he gets the ball hes trying to turn for a fadeaway.

At the same time Drummond came into UConn as a Power Forward instead of a guy expected to hold down the paint at C. Hes just not a Center. Thats the role that will be expected of him in the NBA over time, but he just isn't that kind of player right now. I think he wants to be a Power Forward, in fact his game is best suited for being at Power Forward when you see how he likes to face the basket and score instead of banging in the low post. If you get him on the Pick & Roll he could look like a young Amare out there. However he's still 18 and already has a NBA ready body with freakish athletic ability that everyone will see in Chicago at the pre-draft combine.

It's going to be tough for any team after #1 to pass on him.

With his potential & skills(he has some skills not another DeAndre Jordan), he's a guy who will really prove his draft standing in 4-6 years. I remember seeing a quote saying Drummond is a guy who gets a GM fired. You'll get fired for drafting him and having to wait for him to develop or You'll get fired for passing on him and him becoming a star elsewhere.

[Rowe]

He averaged 10/7.6/2.7 blocks on 54% with a team that featured Napier and Lamb, and made him share the post with Oriakhi. He's already got the size for the NBA, unlike Davis who is rail thin. With proper development, he will be one of the best players in the NBA within the next 4 years. Saying he is a bust or anything close to that based off of his freshman year when he was a third option is just :facepalm

He'd probably be much better off at Power Forward in the NBA.

But at 6'10/6'11 270+lbs they're going to throw him at Center and hope he turns into the next Dwight Howard.

IDrummond's athletic ability is scary. Never seen any college "big man" who is that agile, fast, & athletic with his size. When you can outrun 6'0 guards in sprints at 6'11 then you're just a freak of nature. Thats some Wilt Chamberlain shit.:lol

I think he can be a bigger version of Shawn Kemp or Amare Stoudemire at Power Forward.

[Whoah10115]

Disagree.

You do have to acknowledge that UConn's basketball team last season was a mess following the loss of Kemba Walker & Jim Calhoun to a lesser extent. Hes starting to remind me of Bob Knight towards the end at Indiana, his time has past and hes holding on because he doesn't want to walk way. They made no effort to feed the ball in the post to Oriakhi or Drummond as Shabazz Napier tried to do his Kemba Walker impression, because UConn's ball movement has been terrible for several years but Kemba being successful made that become overlooked. Also Alex Oriakhi is the most overrated player in the country apparently since he's being considered by multiple top schools thinking hes a "force" in the paint. Everytime he gets the ball hes trying to turn for a fadeaway.

At the same time Drummond came into UConn as a Power Forward instead of a guy expected to hold down the paint at C. Hes just not a Center. Thats the role that will be expected of him in the NBA over time, but he just isn't that kind of player right now. I think he wants to be a Power Forward, in fact his game is best suited for being at Power Forward when you see how he likes to face the basket and score instead of banging in the low post. If you get him on the Pick & Roll he could look like a young Amare out there. However he's still 18 and already has a NBA ready body with freakish athletic ability that everyone will see in Chicago at the pre-draft combine.

It's going to be tough for any team after #1 to pass on him.

With his potential & skills(he has some skills not another DeAndre Jordan), he's a guy who will really prove his draft standing in 4-6 years. I remember seeing a quote saying Drummond is a guy who gets a GM fired. You'll get fired for drafting him and having to wait for him to develop or You'll get fired for passing on him and him becoming a star elsewhere.



From what I've seen, you might be right...a PF...unless he's playing center on a team like the Suns.



He does seem more like a PF, tho he's huge.

[rfoster24]

Jeremy Lamb

[Sarcastic]

He'd probably be much better off at Power Forward in the NBA.

But at 6'10/6'11 270+lbs they're going to throw him at Center and hope he turns into the next Dwight Howard.

IDrummond's athletic ability is scary. Never seen any college "big man" who is that agile, fast, & athletic with his size. When you can outrun 6'0 guards in sprints at 6'11 then you're just a freak of nature. Thats some Wilt Chamberlain shit.:lol

I think he can be a bigger version of Shawn Kemp or Amare Stoudemire at Power Forward.

If he is lucky enough to play PF, he could be like the next Tim Duncan: should be a center but gets to destroy power forwards instead.

[rfoster24]

Last but not least.... why is everyone such a d*ck about Davis' uni-brow??

He's obviously more comfortable in his own skin than most of you are in your own.... and quite frankly 6 months from now he'll have like $60 million guaranteed between his rookie contract and his inevitable sneaker deal.

He absolutely couldn't care less about what a bunch of internet dorks think about his appearance.

Because it's such a simple Solution!!!

1.) Gillette Razor
2.) Shaving cream
3.) 10-15 seconds!!!!

[Rowe]

From what I've seen, you might be right...a PF...unless he's playing center on a team like the Suns.



He does seem more like a PF, tho he's huge.

Yeah even coming out of HS he was way more comfortable facing the basket and running the floor. An oversized PF, but yeah just like Amare was on the Suns playing C in their system. If he goes to a team like New Orleans they'd be smart to let him play PF with a guy like Okafor playing C.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXB6vc5Z_A4

Looking at those highlights it just shows UConn didn't utilize him to his full potential last season. If he somehow comes back next season I'd think UConn would give him far more freedom on offense as their #1 option.

[Rowe]

If he is lucky enough to play PF, he could be like the next Tim Duncan: should be a center but gets to destroy power forwards instead.
Yes.

Matchup nightmare to any Power Forward trying to guard him.

PG who can dish the ball + A consistent jumpshot + Someone, Somewhere to teach him Free Throws.

Game over.

[Whoah10115]

Yeah even coming out of HS he was way more comfortable facing the basket and running the floor. An oversized PF, but yeah just like Amare was on the Suns playing C in their system. If he goes to a team like New Orleans they'd be smart to let him play PF with a guy like Okafor playing C.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXB6vc5Z_A4

Looking at those highlights it just shows UConn didn't utilize him to his full potential last season. If he somehow comes back next season I'd think UConn would give him far more freedom on offense as their #1 option.



If he doesn't get amnestied, then maybe Okafor can help him out with the UConn connection...and maybe reinvigorate his own career.

[RedBlackAttack]

He averaged 10/7.6/2.7 blocks on 54% with a team that featured Napier and Lamb, and made him share the post with Oriakhi. He's already got the size for the NBA, unlike Davis who is rail thin. With proper development, he will be one of the best players in the NBA within the next 4 years. Saying he is a bust or anything close to that based off of his freshman year when he was a third option is just :facepalm
Didn't say he was a bust. I just said that pawning off all of his mediocre and badly inconsistent play this past season on his choice of college and teammates is being too kind to a guy who, regardless of the situation, should have produced more than he did.

In fact, I noted that I would be in favor of my hometown team drafting him. Just because you like a guy's potential doesn't mean you give him a pass for all previous failures.

Same goes for Rowe's post, which I'm not going to respond to piece-by-piece because it is too late and I have work in the morning.

You look at Kentucky's final game against Kansas... Davis wasn't featured much in that game. In fact, he wasn't featured much all season (I believe he was 4th on the team in FGAs). However, even when his teammates were jacking up shots and not even looking in his direction, he found other ways to dominate the game.

That was the kind of thing that I was waiting to see from Drummond against a quality opponent, but it never came and he went out about as meekly as humanly possible in the NCAA Tournament. His invisibility much of the time was disconcerting to even his most ardent supporters... and even to someone like me, who would be happy to see him in an offense mapped out by Byron Scott and led by Kyrie Irving.

There is seeing the potential and drafting based on it (which I agree with) and there is making excuses for poor performances. I would do the first, but I'm averse to the second.

[bdreason]

I don't think Rivers can start at PG or SG in the NBA, so if he goes top 10, I'm calling bust.



I think the two bigmen, Drummond and Davis, will work out just fine. Maybe not franchise players, but certainly All-Star caliber. Drummond is a lot better than he showed this year.

[kumquat]

Drummond is a lot better than he showed this year.


How do you figure that. Hasn't developed a post game to speak of and has shown no heart.

[Sarcastic]

How do you figure that. Hasn't developed a post game to speak of and has shown no heart.

What did Howard's post game look like at 18?

[SilkkTheShocker]

He won't be picked high enought to be considered a bust, but Rivers is going to disappoint. I don't see the hype.

[SilkkTheShocker]

How do you figure that. Hasn't developed a post game to speak of and has shown no heart.

You know he should to still be a senior in high school, right?

[kumquat]

What did Howard's post game look like at 18?

He still doesn't have a good post game, but he rebounds and defends. Drummond won't be doing that on an elite level. He's not as athletic as Dwight. So it's dwight without the rebounding and defence. Fail.

[Sarcastic]

He still doesn't have a good post game, but he rebounds and defends. Drummond won't be doing that on an elite level. He's not as athletic as Dwight. So it's dwight without the rebounding and defence. Fail.

At the same age, Drummond is bigger, more athletic, has a better handle, and better shot than Dwight was/had.

[CelticBaller]

He still doesn't have a good post game, but he rebounds and defends. Drummond won't be doing that on an elite level. He's not as athletic as Dwight. So it's dwight without the rebounding and defence. Fail.
stfu you obviously never seen Drummond play :facepalm

[Kebab Stall]

Doesn't seem to be much opinion on TRob in here and the few opinions aren't that great.

I don't see him becoming a bust, but I do think that going top 5, is a bit too high for him. Although someone of his athleticism, height, arm span, build and work ethic is just too much to pass up on.

He's an incredible rebounder, got tonnes of energy and looks like he lives in the weight room. Coaches are gonna love him simply because of how hard he works.

[hawksdogsbraves]

At the same age, Drummond is bigger, more athletic, has a better handle, and better shot than Dwight was/had.

Please, Dwight was a much better player than Drummond is at the same age. Dwight averaged 12/10 in the NBA as a rookie, Drummond was averaging 10/7 in college. Both were playing around 30mpg.

Dwight is bigger, much more athletic, and has a much better idea of how to play the game. Drummond was abysmal this season and was often overmatched by other college players.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Doesn't seem to be much opinion on TRob in here and the few opinions aren't that great.

I don't see him becoming a bust, but I do think that going top 5, is a bit too high for him. Although someone of his athleticism, height, arm span, build and work ethic is just too much to pass up on.

He's an incredible rebounder, got tonnes of energy and looks like he lives in the weight room. Coaches are gonna love him simply because of how hard he works.

Well that's probably because nobody really sees him being a bust. Great athlete, decent size, and a great motor rarely equals bust. At worst he'll be a very solid rotation player, more likely though he'll be a solid starter for a long time.

[Profound]

Instead of focusing on who's going to bust why not talk about guys who might surprise? :oldlol: people always want to be so negative

[Rowe]

Please, Dwight was a much better player than Drummond is at the same age. Dwight averaged 12/10 in the NBA as a rookie, Drummond was averaging 10/7 in college. Both were playing around 30mpg.
- Comparing Drummond's numbers in college to Dwight's in the NBA also is a terrible comparison. Dwight Howard didn't want to be a Center in the NBA, he wanted to play like Kevin Garnett at the Power Forward position. Brian Hill threw him into the fire and for the most part he had an average rookie season, but because hes a NBA rookie most of the flaws in his game are overlooked. 12/10 for a NBA rookie is considered a "success", while in the college ranks your entire game is up for debate and ridicule no matter what numbers you put up.

You do realize the college game is completely different from the NBA game? Less defense, Far more open game, & 48 minutes where you can get a bunch of empty stats in blowout games.

I am certain Dwight would've had the same struggles at Indiana had he gone to college. Using your argument if he went for the same numbers at 12/10 then he would've been considered a disappointment in college for being a #1 recruit.




Dwight is bigger, much more athletic, and has a much better idea of how to play the game. Drummond was abysmal this season and was often overmatched by other college players.
Dwight is a 26 year old man.

Thats the part you're forgetting.

- Andre Drummond is 18 years old and hes going to measure out at 6'11 260+lbs pre-draft. Dwight spent 2 months going on a bulk while training for the Draft and barely got up to 240lbs when he was 18. Dwight Howard is listed at 6'11 265lbs at 26 years old after having 8 years of having a personal trainer, access to top of the line weight rooms, & a team trainer with a weight/diet program for players.

You see the difference?
Drummond is the most physically impressive "big man" since Shaq.

Drummond physically will have no problem coming into the NBA and facing big men, the issue will always be how he develops his game with coaching. We know he'll easily get dunks, putbacks, etc but all that matters is what he does to go along with his game.

Drummond is faster, stronger, more agile, and is more athletic than Dwight Howard was coming into the NBA. Drummond has a vert measured anywhere between 35-39 inches, and his in-game court speed has already been pointed out as being freakish for a C.

[Rowe]

Well that's probably because nobody really sees him being a bust. Great athlete, decent size, and a great motor rarely equals bust. At worst he'll be a very solid rotation player, more likely though he'll be a solid starter for a long time.

This whole thread has every player being considered a bust.:lol

Like I said the college game is completely different than the NBA.

Just to add on, I do think Thomas Robinson will be a "Bust" simply based on how high he's going to get drafted right now. His upside is limited and he's the prime example of a prospect who is expected to make an immediate impact, but will get off on being a bench role player who grabs rebounds off of pure hustle. If he goes Top 5 then some team is going to be extremely disappointed, yet you've got people saying hes the most "NBA Ready" player available. Hes a 6'8/6'9 guy who is strictly a Power Forward and has limited offensive skills while playing mediocre defense.

[lilgodfather1]

Drummond has the potential to be the best player in the league, or a role player. If he gets drafted into a less than ideal location than he will never reach his full potential. If he gets drafted to pretty much any of the op 10 teams then role player is his ceiling, I could see Cleveland, Washington, and Portland being great fits for him, but if he lands with the Raptors he will be a huge bust. MJ always finds a way to pick a bust, so Charlotte is out, Detroit is an interesting one, but I don't think Knight/Stuckey are the right type of point guards that he needs.

Quite honestly it really sucks that Minni has no chance to get him barring a trade. I think Drummond would fit in perfectly there with Rubio.

[MannyO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXB6vc5Z_A4

this gives me faith in him.. crazy potential, just depends on how he develops and how fast

[EricGordon23]

No way if Andre Drummond gets touches then he will score. He is going to be a defensive anchor for any team he is on. Ish has way to many haters.

[ganja0710]

Best case scenario for Drummond is Amare Stoudemire or Shawn Kemp

Worst case scenario - Derrick Favors 2.0

[EricGordon23]

Best case scenario for Drummond is Amare Stoudemire or Shawn Kemp

Worst case scenario - Derrick Favors 2.0


In the sense that Favors can still be an amazing player since he is still so young? So no matter what Drummonds future is good in this scenario. I see what you did there.

[blacknapalm]

Best case scenario for Drummond is Amare Stoudemire or Shawn Kemp

Worst case scenario - Derrick Favors 2.0

derrick favors isn't that bad. his per 36 numbers are actually quite impressive. plus, he's only 20. it's not wise to say favors has reached his potential. who knows what his ceiling is? it's just that utah has a steady rotation of bigs and the veterans get the most minutes.

i'd say his worst case scenario is tyrus thomas

[Rowe]

derrick favors isn't that bad. his per 36 numbers are actually quite impressive. plus, he's only 20. it's not wise to say favors has reached his potential. who knows what his ceiling is? it's just that utah has a steady rotation of bigs and the veterans get the most minutes.

i'd say his worst case scenario is tyrus thomas
Agreed 100% on Favors. Its way too early to say he's reached his ceiling when hes playing behind 2 Top 10 players at their position at PF and C. I think everyone there knows in due time he's going to be their #1 or #2 option in Utah. But he's gotta wait his turn and see what happens with Millsap and Jefferson. Not to mention they badly need a PG.

Also, Tyrus Thomas was a 6'8 210lb PF with no skills at all outside of being a leaper who blocked shots left and right. Drummond has a good 50lbs on him at this stage.

[Sarcastic]

Drummond won't be a bust. He just messed up and picked a school that didn't feature him as the main option. His size and athleticism are off the charts for his age.


Called it. Just about every one of the other posters in here got it wrong.

[Qwyjibo]

Going into the draft I didn't like Waiters (I will be right on this) and Lillard (oops). I also thought Austin Rivers would be solid.

[BankShot]

I'm not saying he's a bust, as its only halfway through his first season in the league..... but I thought Thomas Robinson would have a much bigger impact as a rookie than he's showed so far.

Its tough to say what exactly has caused this considering how dysfunctional Sactown is as a franchise, and how much attention there is on the whole DMC melodrama, but i thought his skills and character would be a nice fit for what the Kings had going last year.

[BankShot]

Going into the draft I didn't like Waiters (I will be right on this) and Lillard (oops). I also thought Austin Rivers would be solid.

I also thought the Waiters selection was a big-time stretch.... especially considering the variety of prospects available to draft at #4:

Barnes (polish, offense)
Drummond (size, potential)
Robinson (motor, immediate help)

It seems to me that there will always be a surplus of effective undersized 2-guards that can create their own shot.... so unless they though Waiters would be the next Dwyane Wade it seemed like they could have gone a different (better) direction

[andremiller07]

I'm not saying he's a bust, as its only halfway through his first season in the league..... but I thought Thomas Robinson would have a much bigger impact as a rookie than he's showed so far.

Its tough to say what exactly has caused this considering how dysfunctional Sactown is as a franchise, and how much attention there is on the whole DMC melodrama, but i thought his skills and character would be a nice fit for what the Kings had going last year.

As off late hes been beastly in particular impacting the game, he should be starting over Jason Thompson at this point. He has probably been the key in the Kings last couple wins, like when he blocked Wall to allow the Kings to get a go ahead basket.

The problem with T-Rob all year has been he only seems to thrive out there when hes got Cousins next to him and a shooter or two and for the most part he has only played with the bench guys who outside of Hayes have completely sucked all year.

[BankShot]

As off late hes been beastly in particular impacting the game, he should be starting over Jason Thompson at this point. He has probably been the key in the Kings last couple wins, like when he blocked Wall to allow the Kings to get a go ahead basket.

The problem with T-Rob all year has been he only seems to thrive out there when hes got Cousins next to him and a shooter or two and for the most part he has only played with the bench guys who outside of Hayes have completely sucked all year.

I will be the first to admit that I haven't watched a single second of in-game-footage of the Sacramento Kings this year, so all I can base my opinion upon is box-scores (Cousins is on my fantasy team) and highlights.

I just thought that a dysfunctional team like the Kings would welcome a player like Robinson (at least the T-Rob that the general public sees)

If they can get their shit together in Sacramento/FutureSeattle, TRob/DMC has the potential to be nasty-as-f*ck frontline in terms of rebounding and physicality.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

midatlantic09 should be a GM. :lebronamazed:


I can't agree with you on this. I've followed Rivers since his sophomore year in high school and I think he'll will end up averaging something like 22 pts/4 rebs/6 ast at his peak in the NBA. The guy has an incredible first step, a decent jumper, excellent handles, can pretty much get to the hoop or create his own shot whenever he wants, has a high basketball IQ, seems like the type who will literally do whatever it takes to improve drastically each year, and has done very well against current NBA players in summer league games. If he were a legit 6'6, he'd be a top 3 pick in the draft.

Trust me when I tell you he was ranked the #1 high school bball player in America by Rivals and #3 by ESPN and Scout for a reason.




People're hating on Davis so they can bump threads in 3 years if he blows out his knee like they knew something no one else did. Then they remember he turned 19 like 3 weeks ago and that whole "HOLY SHIT HE DOESN'T WEIGHT 250!" shit sounds even stupider. This time of year is what sucks for the draft prospects. People watch 4 games of Player X andhe's not current Dwight or Lebron so he must not be any good.

Davis is a legitimate franchise maker. If it weren't for Jordan being a complete moron I'd be incredibly happy for Bobcats fans. The fans absolutely deserve him, the management doesn't at all.
:lol



Davis and MKG got star potential written all over them. Sullinger and Barnes can go either way depending on where they get drafted, but I think Barnes has the higher ceiling. Haven't watched much of Drummond.

Austin Rivers though, really should stay in school for another year. I haven't seen another player in years that would benefit so much from it. I know he wants to get paid, but right now I don't see him doing anything in this league for at least a good 3-4 years. NBA defenders will eat him alive. I always wonder, what the hell does Coach K tell these kids?
You're going to look quite foolish when I bump this in 3 years.

[CelticBaller]

Smh @ those calling Drummond a bust :oldlol:

[Nash]

idk but this dude looks real nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHBDW6tNcvo
oh lawd:applause: