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GoRapz
04-07-2012, 04:16 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9q5jw_mma-fighter-vs-street-thug_sport

Prime example of why you never pick fights with anyone :applause:

AlphaWolf24
04-07-2012, 03:54 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9q5jw_mma-fighter-vs-street-thug_sport

Prime example of why you never pick fights with anyone :applause:


why a trained fighter would want to fight someone who obviously lacks any training is beyond me...

that's like a Pro BBall player bieng happy he beat some kid at the park 1 on 1..

unless the guy in gray did something that deserved a azz whooping....the guy in red should be ashamed for beating up the other guy.

Meticode
04-07-2012, 04:07 PM
How does this shit even get set-up? The guy is obviously trained. Unless the black guy wanted to challenge him to just for the sake of it? :confusedshrug: But the white dude seemed pretty pissed off cursing at him the whole time. After that first barrage of hits from the black guy and it didn't even effect the fighter he almost just gave up and was all about trying to defend himself.

Rake2204
04-07-2012, 04:13 PM
How does this shit even get set-up? The guy is obviously trained. Unless the black guy wanted to challenge him to just for the sake of it? :confusedshrug: But the white dude seemed pretty pissed off cursing at him the whole time. After that first barrage of hits from the black guy and it didn't even effect the fighter he almost just gave up and was all about trying to defend himself.
Obviously I don't know the story on this one, but I think sometimes regular people want to see what makes professionals, well ... professionals. Now, fighting involves real violence and possible consequences so it's not a 1:1 comparison, but in a way I find it similar to the folks who trash guys like J.J. Redick and claim to be able to make quick work of him if provided the opportunity.

Again though, I don't know if that's the story here, maybe the MMA guy was just a jerk. I'm just saying I can see how these types of lopsided matchups could jump off.

linZoMourning
04-07-2012, 04:26 PM
come on lets be honest the black guy said something to the white guy. he prob said he was a cracker honkey and thought he could beat his ass. the white guy then responded by breaking off a piece of skittles and tea in his ass

highwhey
04-07-2012, 04:27 PM
i remember i was once watching discovery channel(i believe--regardless, it was a major network airing the show) and it showed marines training in hand to hand combat. the marines drill instructor leading the hand to hand combat commented that they train marines to defend themselves in life and death situations meaning it is different than mma. he said something along the lines of "get me in the octagon with rampage jackson(? or some other famous mma fighter) and he'll beat me, but outside the octagon, i'll kill him"

something along those lines. anyone with more knowledge in fighting, is this true? what is the difference between fighting styles?

the last fight i got in was in high school. lol. wasn't much of a fight though. i'll be the first to admit i really don't know how to fight...i've always just used my strength to throw people into walls or something.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 04:28 PM
Kicking? :oldlol:

Throw your hands. If you cant throw hands, then bow out. Now if this guy was being jumped, robbed? Understood. Who kicks and knees in a straight up fight?

NOW, I agree no one knows the story behind this. So maybe the black dude provoked the fight after he knew or was told that he trained for MMA. But listening to the commentary after the FIRST KICK, the black guys friend was shocked/surprised. So I'm going to assume this was a straight up fight.

Why is this MMA fighter being billed as the good guy, and the black dude a street thug? Not so much thread title but video. They dont offer any background on the fight. Heck probably dont even own the video and got it from somewhere and decided to upload it.

I guess you can say its a fight, anything goes. But kicking, then kneeing? Come on, he knows how to punch because he caught the dude clean and backed him up a bit.

Meticode
04-07-2012, 04:29 PM
i remember i was once watching discovery channel(i believe--regardless, it was a major network airing the show) and it showed marines training in hand to hand combat. the marines drill instructor leading the hand to hand combat commented that they train marines to defend themselves in life and death situations meaning it is different than mma. he said something along the lines of "get me in the octagon with rampage jackson(? or some other famous mma fighter) and he'll beat me, but outside the octagon, i'll kill him"

something along those lines. anyone with more knowledge in fighting, is this true? what is the difference between fighting styles?

the last fight i got in was in high school. lol. wasn't much of a fight though. i'll be the first to admit i really don't know how to fight...i've always just used my strength to throw people into walls or something.
I think he was saying that Marines are trained to know how to kill and defend themselves, MMA has rules obviously. If it's life or death the Marine is going to know how to defend himself better than a MMA fighter who is trained on defending himself from injuries (punches/kicks/holds).

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 04:38 PM
Kicking? :oldlol:

Throw your hands. If you cant throw hands, then bow out. Now if this guy was being jumped, robbed? Understood. Who kicks and knees in a straight up fight?

NOW, I agree no one knows the story behind this. So maybe the black dude provoked the fight after he knew or was told that he trained for MMA. But listening to the commentary after the FIRST KICK, the black guys friend was shocked/surprised. So I'm going to assume this was a straight up fight.

Why is this MMA fighter being billed as the good guy, and the black dude a street thug? Not so much thread title but video. They dont offer any background on the fight. Heck probably dont even own the video and got it from somewhere and decided to upload it.

I guess you can say its a fight, anything goes. But kicking, then kneeing? Come on, he knows how to punch because he caught the dude clean and backed him up a bit.

A fight is a fight, you are allowed to use your whole body. It's too bad the black dude doesn't know how to kick or defend it. He was clearly wasn't any match for the white dude who had MMA training.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 04:48 PM
A fight is a fight, you are allowed to use your whole body. It's too bad the black dude doesn't know how to kick or defend it. He was clearly wasn't any match for the white dude who had MMA training.

I know people who were high degree black belts in karate. I've never seen them use it in fights or hear them mention they used it in a fight. I do know when I sat in classes the instructor made mention to the new people joining amongst the group of regulars. They arent learning something they can go out in the street and pick a fight with. They arent learning something they get into a disagree with someone and it becomes physical to do spinning back kicks across the face. Its to defend yourself from being attacked. And that isnt to be confused into a school yard fight on the basketball court.

Its a lame tactic. I guess people who trained for MMA think they are badasses now. Walk around with their chest poked out hoping someone baits them into a fight. So they can show off their new moves they paid someone money to teach them.

I give the MMA kid credit for not kicking the guy in the nuts


If this was a straight up fight and one kid decided to pick up a stick and crack the other on the head. Well a fight is a fight, anything goes normally is the saying. But you wouldnt be cool with that nor would I.

LJJ
04-07-2012, 04:51 PM
This was filmed by a white person.



You can tell by the lack of -WORLD STAR HIP HOP!!!! THIS BE GOING ON DA WORLD STAR HIP HOP- outings by said videotapeur.

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 04:55 PM
I know people who were high degree black belts in karate. I've never seen them use it in fights or hear them mention they used it in a fight. I do know when I sat in classes the instructor made mention to the new people joining amongst the group of regulars. They arent learning something they can go out in the street and pick a fight with. They arent learning something they get into a disagree with someone and it becomes physical to do spinning back kicks across the face. Its to defend yourself from being attacked. And that isnt to be confused into a school yard fight on the basketball court.

Its a lame tactic. I guess people who trained for MMA think they are badasses now. Walk around with their chest poked out hoping someone baits them into a fight. So they can show off their new moves they paid someone money to teach them.

I give the MMA kid credit for not kicking the guy in the nuts


If this was a straight up fight and one kid decided to pick up a stick and crack the other on the head. Well a fight is a fight, anything goes normally is the saying. But you wouldnt be cool with that nor would I.

Well of course.
My question is you is why you can't use your legs and knee in a straight up fight that you mentioned? It's not the white dude's fault that the black dude doesn't kick and can't defend himself from the kicks.

flipogb
04-07-2012, 05:13 PM
http://comedians.jokes.com/kevin-hart/videos/kevin-hart---reasons-not-to-fight

GOBB
04-07-2012, 05:22 PM
Well of course.
My question is you is why you can't use your legs and knee in a straight up fight that you mentioned? It's not the white dude's fault that the black dude doesn't kick and can't defend himself from the kicks.

You throw hands. Real simple. :confusedshrug:

Did your dad, uncle show you how to kick? My mom taught my sister how to fight, she started with...kicking.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 05:24 PM
http://comedians.jokes.com/kevin-hart/videos/kevin-hart---reasons-not-to-fight

Philly's own!!!!! :applause:

Brujesino
04-07-2012, 05:26 PM
You throw hands. Real simple. :confusedshrug:

Did your dad, uncle show you how to kick? My mom taught my sister how to fight, she started with...kicking.
Thats probably what the black dude thought....then he got his ass kicked.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 05:28 PM
Thats probably what the black dude thought....then he got his ass kicked.

He got his ass kicked by someone who paid money to teach him how to kick and knee. Throw hands, white dude was capable of not only throwing them (he landed a clean shot) but he showed he doesnt have a glass chin after eating a couple knuckle sammiches. Girls kick.

The one MMA fighter I actually applauded for using his stuff on someone was when the former Texas LB suckered punch a female. End result? Amber lamps and a big dude laid on the pavement like a human speed bump. *honk honk*

Brujesino
04-07-2012, 05:29 PM
He got his ass kicked by someone who paid money to teach him how to kick and knee.
Then dont get in a fight with him.Pretty simple.

Amare4lyfe
04-07-2012, 05:31 PM
You throw hands. Real simple. :confusedshrug:

Did your dad, uncle show you how to kick? My mom taught my sister how to fight, she started with...kicking.

There is no written rule that you cannot use legs in a fight. Maybe it's a black thing that you people only know how to use only fists or boxing stance. Well I'm sorry that you think using legs is for female. Where I'm from, you are allow to use legs, take down, knees, and choke.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 05:32 PM
Then dont get in a fight with him.Pretty simple.

This isnt a video game d!ckhead.

"Hey your bio?"

"Oh ok, well I trained MMA for 2 years"

"Meh, you got this one bro. Peace"

"Cool."

Soft ass poster. Shut up.

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 05:33 PM
There is no written rule that you cannot use legs in a fight. Maybe it's a black thing that you people only know how to use only fists or boxing stance. Well I'm sorry that you think using legs is for female. Where I'm from, you are allow to use legs, take down, knees, and choke.

Exactly.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 05:34 PM
There is no written rule that you cannot use legs in a fight. Maybe it's a black thing that you people only know how to use only fists or boxing stance. Well I'm sorry that you think using legs is for female. Where I'm from, you are allow to use legs, take down, knees, and choke.

In America or asia? :confusedshrug:

Brujesino
04-07-2012, 05:35 PM
This isnt a video game d!ckhead.

"Hey your bio?"

"Oh ok, well I trained MMA for 2 years"

"Meh, you got this one bro. Peace"

"Cool."

Soft ass poster. Shut up.
What f*ck are you talking about?Soft ass poster:oldlol:

You're the one that sounds like a little bitch ohh boo hoo why is he kicking? thats what girls do!:cry: Boo hoo wah wah my boy got his ass kicked by some girl:cry:

Amare4lyfe
04-07-2012, 05:36 PM
In America or asia? :confusedshrug:

Everywhere, including America. Is this what Philly knows about fighting? Hands only? :facepalm

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 05:41 PM
He got his ass kicked by someone who paid money to teach him how to kick and knee. Throw hands, white dude was capable of not only throwing them (he landed a clean shot) but he showed he doesnt have a glass chin after eating a couple knuckle sammiches. Girls kick.

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I'm sorry to tell you that you need to open up your eyes and see the rest of the world. Maybe you are used to black fights that uses only hands.
So what if the white dude got trained? The bottom line is that the black dude got rocked. He shouldn't pick a fight if he suck at it.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 05:41 PM
What f*ck are you talking about?Soft ass poster:oldlol:

You're the one that sounds like a little bitch ohh boo hoo why is he kicking? thats what girls do!:cry: Boo hoo wah wah my boy got his ass kicked by some girl:cry:

My boy? I dont give a damn about the black dude. I said its a lame tactic for someone fighting to do kicks and knees. He paid money for lessons on how to kick and knee. Now he is billy badass, dont dare challenge him in the field, on the court. :bowdown:

:rolleyes:



Everywhere, including America. Is this what Philly knows about fighting? Hands only?

Including America? Where Beaver?

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 05:42 PM
Then dont get in a fight with him.Pretty simple.

Exactly. :applause:

GOBB
04-07-2012, 05:44 PM
I'm sorry to tell you that you need to open up your eyes and see the rest of the world. Maybe you are used to black fights that uses only hands.
So what if the white dude got trained? The bottom line is that the black dude got rocked. He shouldn't pick a fight if he suck at it.

I've seen all races fight, with hands. Not kicking. Never in my life encountered a fight where one guy does a spinning round house. Then kicks the thigh a couple times. Who does that? The knees. Lame tactic, period.

It could have been two white guys. Asian vs white and white dude does the kicking. Lame.

Amare4lyfe
04-07-2012, 05:50 PM
My boy? I dont give a damn about the black dude. I said its a lame tactic for someone fighting to do kicks and knees. He paid money for lessons on how to kick and knee. Now he is billy badass, dont dare challenge him in the field, on the court. :bowdown:


If I ever got into a fight, I sure will use my legs, elbows, knees and takedown. I trained my body, including the legs and not just my upper body.

Brujesino
04-07-2012, 05:52 PM
So all your mad about is that he decided to throw kicks and knees to win his fight but if he would have just thrown punches it would have been cool?

What if the black guy had trained in boxing?Would it be ok if the white guy threw kicks and knees or would he have to only throw punches?

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 05:54 PM
I've seen all races fight, with hands. Not kicking. Never in my life encountered a fight where one guy does a spinning round house. Then kicks the thigh a couple times. Who does that? The knees. Lame tactic, period.

It could have been two white guys. Asian vs white and white dude does the kicking. Lame.

Give me a break. So if you were in China, you have to use legs. If you were in Africa, you have to use spears. If you were in Brazil, you have to use BJJ.
What a bunch of crap.

tpols
04-07-2012, 05:54 PM
I've seen all races fight, with hands. Not kicking. Never in my life encountered a fight where one guy does a spinning round house. Then kicks the thigh a couple times. Who does that? The knees. Lame tactic, period.

It could have been two white guys. Asian vs white and white dude does the kicking. Lame.
I could see low kicks as being kinda gay.. like if you square up and start kicking someone in their legs. But knees in the clinch and high kicks really aren't anything to call someone out on.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 05:55 PM
If I ever got into a fight, I sure will use my legs, elbows, knees and takedown. I trained my body, including the legs and not just my upper body.

Cool story Macho man

GOBB
04-07-2012, 05:57 PM
Give me a break. So if you were in China, you have to use legs. If you were in Africa, you have to use spears. If you were in Brazil, you have to use BJJ.
What a bunch of crap.

They dont use spears in Africa. Assault rifles or machetes. I'm not fighting no African. Try kicking an african, bet you wont bring your leg back.

Amare4lyfe
04-07-2012, 05:59 PM
Cool story Macho man

I really think you should open your eyes and see outside of Philly. There is no written rule that you can't use legs, knees, and takedown. Why limit yourself to use only hands.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 05:59 PM
So all your mad about is that he decided to throw kicks and knees to win his fight but if he would have just thrown punches it would have been cool?

What if the black guy had trained in boxing?Would it be ok if the white guy threw kicks and knees or would he have to only throw punches?

Black guy didnt even know how to hold his hands. He didnt train in boxing. And why am I mad about 2 strangers? I said the tactic one used was lame. Not a fan of what he did. Pretty simple, you came in arguing like you were the white dude. Nothing you are going to say in text will change my mind. I stand by what I say. There is not I acknowledge that part, or you have a point there but. :confusedshrug:

Brujesino
04-07-2012, 06:02 PM
They dont use spears in Africa. Assault rifles or machetes. I'm not fighting no African. Try kicking an african, bet you wont bring your leg back.
Its cool to shoot people and chop there legs off in a fight but not cool to kick someone cuz thats lame.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 06:02 PM
I really think you should open your eyes and see outside of Philly. There is no written rule that you can't use legs, knees, and takedown. Why limit yourself to use only hands.

No written rule after you start kicking like some punk ass anime character that I cant shoot you in the foot. :confusedshrug:

GOBB
04-07-2012, 06:03 PM
Its cool to shoot people and chop there legs off in a fight but not cool to kick someone cuz thats lame.

Thats Africa. You wouldnt last a minute there in a real neighborhood.

Brujesino
04-07-2012, 06:05 PM
Thats Africa. You wouldnt last a minute there in a real neighborhood.
I wouldnt want to last a minute in africa.

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 06:05 PM
They dont use spears in Africa. Assault rifles or machetes. I'm not fighting no African. Try kicking an african, bet you wont bring your leg back.

It's just an exaggeration.
So you think a fight in the America , would only allow fist only? I'm from NYC. I've seen fights back in my days where it's not just using fist only.

ace23
04-07-2012, 06:11 PM
I'd like to see him fight someone who can actually...fight. The n!gga has zero hands and does not move his head.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 06:12 PM
It's just an exaggeration.
So you think a fight in the America , would only allow fist only? I'm from NYC. I've seen fights back in my days where it's not just using fist only.

Nope.

I think stomping a person out is a lame tactic. You let them get up and knuckle up again. Trying to stomp and pummel them? Lame, corny. That person gets up, you put them back on that ass. Fight is over/broken up.

Of course fights dont go this way. I'm telling you when i see fights certain tactics to me are lame. Thats all, the way people fight wont change. Not here to change it. If you or someone else will continue using kicks? Fine.

White kid could have kicked his ass probably with hands only. Wasnt much need for spinning round house kicks and crap.

rknine15
04-07-2012, 06:14 PM
Kicking? :oldlol:

Throw your hands. If you cant throw hands, then bow out. Now if this guy was being jumped, robbed? Understood. Who kicks and knees in a straight up fight?

NOW, I agree no one knows the story behind this. So maybe the black dude provoked the fight after he knew or was told that he trained for MMA. But listening to the commentary after the FIRST KICK, the black guys friend was shocked/surprised. So I'm going to assume this was a straight up fight.

Why is this MMA fighter being billed as the good guy, and the black dude a street thug? Not so much thread title but video. They dont offer any background on the fight. Heck probably dont even own the video and got it from somewhere and decided to upload it.

I guess you can say its a fight, anything goes. But kicking, then kneeing? Come on, he knows how to punch because he caught the dude clean and backed him up a bit.

:lol Don't get in any fights with people that train martial arts.....

the kicks were open all day, I would've been nice and put him to sleep instead of ****ing up his face

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 06:26 PM
Nope.

I think stomping a person out is a lame tactic. You let them get up and knuckle up again. Trying to stomp and pummel them? Lame, corny. That person gets up, you put them back on that ass. Fight is over/broken up.

Of course fights dont go this way. I'm telling you when i see fights certain tactics to me are lame. Thats all, the way people fight wont change. Not here to change it. If you or someone else will continue using kicks? Fine.

White kid could have kicked his ass probably with hands only. Wasnt much need for spinning round house kicks and crap.

I see no lame tactic in a fighter who chooses to use his legs in a fight. If a fighter chooses not to use his leg, that fine with me also. But you are entitled to your opinion.

rknine15
04-07-2012, 06:30 PM
I've seen all races fight, with hands. Not kicking. Never in my life encountered a fight where one guy does a spinning round house. Then kicks the thigh a couple times. Who does that? The knees. Lame tactic, period.

It could have been two white guys. Asian vs white and white dude does the kicking. Lame.
OMG kicking someone in the head takes A LOT more skill than punching someone in the head. If he has the ability to utilize his feet to defend himself why not use them. It's not 'Lame' its skill..... its the equivalent of saying someone in the NBA with athlete abilities is 'lame' for dunking the ball over a defender

Amare4lyfe
04-07-2012, 06:33 PM
Nope.



Then what are you complaining about anyway. You just said nope when the question was asked that American fight with fist only. I didn't see any cheap tactic that the white dude did in that fight. It was a fair fight and the black dude got his ass kicked. Plain and simple.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 06:33 PM
OMG kicking someone in the head takes A LOT more skill than punching someone in the head. If he has the ability to utilize his feet to defend himself why not use them. It's not 'Lame' its skill..... its the equivalent of saying someone in the NBA with athlete abilities is 'lame' for dunking the ball over a defender

It is lame. Not sure why you keep arguing otherwise? To state your opinion? Cool story bro.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 06:35 PM
Then what are you complaining about anyway. You just said nope when the question was asked that American fight with fist only. I didn't see any cheap tactic that the white dude did in that fight. It was a fair fight and the black dude got his ass kicked. Plain and simple.

And you completely ignored the rest of the post like an idiot. Sounds like you've been kicked in the head a few times.

And yes you already mentioned you didnt see any cheap tactics the first go around. So now you're going to repeat yourself in using different words? Such a creative spirit we have here! :bowdown:

Amare4lyfe
04-07-2012, 06:42 PM
And yes you already mentioned you didnt see any cheap tactics the first go around. So now you're going to repeat yourself in using different words? Such a creative spirit we have here! :bowdown:

Learn to read. When did I repeat saying cheap tactic? Looked more like you got kicked in the head a few times. :oldlol:

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 06:45 PM
Learn to read. When did I repeat saying cheap tactic? Looked more like you got kicked in the head a few times. :oldlol:

:lol

Ok, let's chill. This is getting out of hand. If GOBB thinks kicks are for girls, then let him think that way.

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 06:46 PM
OMG kicking someone in the head takes A LOT more skill than punching someone in the head. If he has the ability to utilize his feet to defend himself why not use them. It's not 'Lame' its skill..... its the equivalent of saying someone in the NBA with athlete abilities is 'lame' for dunking the ball over a defender

Completely agree.
:applause:

GOBB
04-07-2012, 07:08 PM
Learn to read. When did I repeat saying cheap tactic? Looked more like you got kicked in the head a few times. :oldlol:

Learn to read I said you're basically REPEATING what you said previously only using different words each time. Idiot. You see nothing wrong with usage of kicks. Thats the theme with your posts. Saying later "its not a cheap tactic" isnt saying nothing different at all. :rolleyes:

redhonda you're giggling and couldnt comprehend what was written? Or is it because you agree with his point so you figure let me just laugh for support. Like a jockstrap? :confusedshrug:

rknine15
04-07-2012, 07:29 PM
GOBB your opinion in this matter is overly dumb, just stick to basketball.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 07:31 PM
GOBB your opinion in this matter is overly dumb, just stick to basketball.

Yeah because an experienced fighter over there. :rolleyes:

Ever heard of the saying agree to disagree? Probably not, you might not be smart enough.

redhonda76
04-07-2012, 07:43 PM
redhonda you're giggling and couldnt comprehend what was written? Or is it because you agree with his point so you figure let me just laugh for support. Like a jockstrap? :confusedshrug:

There is nothing wrong with agreeing with others.


Kicking? :oldlol:

Throw your hands. If you cant throw hands, then bow out. Now if this guy was being jumped, robbed? Understood. Who kicks and knees in a straight up fight?



This is what people are disagreeing with you. Be my guest if you want to think that way. I'm done talking to you on this thread.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 08:08 PM
There is nothing wrong with agreeing with others.

This is what people are disagreeing with you. Be my guest if you want to think that way. I'm done talking to you on this thread.

I dont have an issue with the disagreement. You laughed as if he made a sound point to counter my post. He didnt, he's basically saying the same thing with his very first reply...only using different words each time.

The theme is with you, him, the two others? No problem with kicking/kneeing, fair game.

I already told the other poster agree to disagree. Guess you selectively read here.

Edwin
04-07-2012, 08:27 PM
i remember i was once watching discovery channel(i believe--regardless, it was a major network airing the show) and it showed marines training in hand to hand combat. the marines drill instructor leading the hand to hand combat commented that they train marines to defend themselves in life and death situations meaning it is different than mma. he said something along the lines of "get me in the octagon with rampage jackson(? or some other famous mma fighter) and he'll beat me, but outside the octagon, i'll kill him"

something along those lines. anyone with more knowledge in fighting, is this true? what is the difference between fighting styles?
The difference is that Marines are probably trained to use weapons and the place they're surrounded by in their favor. Let's say a BJJ fighter isn't. Watch some Bas Rutten demos on street fighting and you'll get the idea.

However I highly doubt an unarmed Marine could beat up a BJJ black belt for example.

This reminds of a Renzo Gracie story where he says he was in a traffic jam in Brazil and some dude started honking horn at him and screaming insults at him and Renzo got out of his car and chocked the dude out.


Kicking? :oldlol:

Throw your hands. If you cant throw hands, then bow out. Now if this guy was being jumped, robbed? Understood. Who kicks and knees in a straight up fight?

NOW, I agree no one knows the story behind this. So maybe the black dude provoked the fight after he knew or was told that he trained for MMA. But listening to the commentary after the FIRST KICK, the black guys friend was shocked/surprised. So I'm going to assume this was a straight up fight.

Why is this MMA fighter being billed as the good guy, and the black dude a street thug? Not so much thread title but video. They dont offer any background on the fight. Heck probably dont even own the video and got it from somewhere and decided to upload it.

I guess you can say its a fight, anything goes. But kicking, then kneeing? Come on, he knows how to punch because he caught the dude clean and backed him up a bit.
What's wrong with throwing kicks if you know how to throw them?

This reminds of a story from Antoni Hardonk, a retired Dutch Kickboxer and MMA fighter where he saw a women getting assaulted by several guys with knives at an ATM and he jumped in to save the women and began beating the guys up and pretty much defended the woman and beat up the guys. Hardonk did get stabbed once, but I'm sure he used some kicks in that fight to defend the woman.

Also Alistair Overeem and Valentijn Overeem got in a bar fight with a bunch of dudes in Holland and they beat up the dudes in the bar. As they're both Kickboxers and MMA fighters, I'm sure they also used kicks in that fight. My point is, if you know how to throw kicks, what's wrong in using them then? I see nothing wrong with it.

Jorge Masvidal a trained Cuban MMA fighter fought Kimbo Slice's protege Ray and he used leg kicks in their fights and no one said anything in those videos IIRC.


I could see low kicks as being kinda gay.. like if you square up and start kicking someone in their legs. But knees in the clinch and high kicks really aren't anything to call someone out on.
Nah bro, leg kicks look kinda goofy in a fight, but they will take someone's legs out from under them quickly if you know how to throw them.


I think stomping a person out is a lame tactic. You let them get up and knuckle up again. Trying to stomp and pummel them? Lame, corny. That person gets up, you put them back on that ass. Fight is over/broken up.
But you're contradicting yourself. See one of your own previous posts from this same thread.


The one MMA fighter I actually applauded for using his stuff on someone was when the former Texas LB suckered punch a female. End result? Amber lamps and a big dude laid on the pavement like a human speed bump. *honk honk*
That makes no sense, as the MMA fighter you're talking about is Roger Huerta and he stomped on the Linebacker, so it makes no sense.

You just contradicted yourself bro.

Like you said before, we can agree to disagree.

You think it's girly to kick someone in a fight, I don't, no problem, it's just agreeing to disagree.

GOBB
04-07-2012, 09:09 PM
What's wrong with throwing kicks if you know how to throw them?

This reminds of a story from Antoni Hardonk, a retired Dutch Kickboxer and MMA fighter where he saw a women getting assaulted by several guys with knives at an ATM and he jumped in to save the women and began beating the guys up and pretty much defended the woman and beat up the guys. Hardonk did get stabbed once, but I'm sure he used some kicks in that fight to defend the woman.

Also Alistair Overeem and Valentijn Overeem got in a bar fight with a bunch of dudes in Holland and they beat up the dudes in the bar. As they're both Kickboxers and MMA fighters, I'm sure they also used kicks in that fight. My point is, if you know how to throw kicks, what's wrong in using them then? I see nothing wrong with it.

You're posting scenerios that dont compare to a 1 on 1.


But you're contradicting yourself. See one of your own previous posts from this same thread.


That makes no sense, as the MMA fighter you're talking about is Roger Huerta and he stomped on the Linebacker, so it makes no sense.

You just contradicted yourself bro.

Like you said before, we can agree to disagree.

You think it's girly to kick someone in a fight, I don't, no problem, it's just agreeing to disagree.

How so? The dude suckered punch a female. Flat out rocked and dropped her. I have no problem how that guy was taken out. He could have been run over by a car.

If Huerta and the dude got into an argument and decided to fight it out? No one jump in? Different story. These two clowns in the video pretty much agreed to fight one another. Whereas the Heurta situation was him defending a female who was dropped for no reason whatsoever. That was a punk move, so he deserves whatever he gets. Kicks, summersaults, off the light pole with an elbow. Or oscar the grouch's trashcan upside the head. Dude was a linebacker, built like a brickhouse. Hitting a chick in high heels? Cmon.

I dont compare that situation two 2 human beings deciding to duke it out.

Edit: Me saying its a lame tactic to stomp a person out and not let them get up? Thats talkin about a 1 on 1. If me and you squared up to fight over something probably dumb as hell anyway. If I drop you to the ground? I wont proceed to stomp you out, beat you while you curl up in the fetal position. I'll let you get up, then we go again. That Huerta situation is entirely different. That big ass LB crossed the line. So he gets dealt with accordingly.

I know people dont see it my way. Thats why I have no issue with agreeing to disagree.

linZoMourning
04-07-2012, 09:11 PM
pretty sure this black guy was trying to rob the white guy of his skittles and tea. self defense.

GoRapz
04-07-2012, 09:41 PM
Also something to think about: If the MMA fighter was the one who provoked the fight he damn sure would have gave the black dude a few more shots in the end after the black guy had enough along with his buddy who looked like he was ready to jump in at points of the fight.

Rake2204
04-07-2012, 10:22 PM
I have absolutely zero fighting experience so any opinion I have on this matter is likely weightless, but I personally don't find an issue with using kicks in a fight. Would I kick someone if I ever were to find myself in fight? Probably not, because I know I would suck at it. And that's not to say I'd be good at throwing fists, it just seems me trying a lame kick would only open myself up to having my leg caught and then flipped head over heels or something (like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_at9fJ1XQ#t=1m32s ).

I think the dunking analogy is a relatively fair one. Would I dunk on a pack of 3rd graders? Nah. But would I relent from dunking against a group of players in my same general age level but not necessarily at my same skill level? I think not. If someone has developed a reasonable skill within a particular endeavor, they should be able to utilize it. Then again, I guess the argument would be whether kicking should be a part of fighting to begin with, not just whether it should be used. And again, I do think it has a place in a fight (but what do I know).

Three other things:

1. I fully agree with GOBB's point about kicking and hitting someone while they're down. I think that has no place anywhere. That is well beyond the line for me.

2. The video referring to the MMA fighter's opponent simply as "Street Thug" makes it feel like we're playing Double Dragon.

3. I don't know how highly trained of a fighter the guy was, but he was solid enough to showcase he's above a regular guy's "street" level fighting technique. Sometimes I think it's neat to see the visual evidence of how good people trained in a specific craft are in comparison to normal folk. If the "street thug" was unaware of his opponent's training, I'd like to know what he was thinking when he first had a roundhouse whiz above his head.

ErhnamDjinn
04-07-2012, 10:30 PM
Rofl so summary ive been reading here is if you train mma as a self defense tool, and you use whats given to you in a streetfight and start kicking your a woman because your not fighting the way your dad and uncle fought?:biggums: while i believe you should just avoid the fight especially if your a trained fighter, i believe the only ghey stuff would be to kick the balls, pull hair and eye rake

Styles p
04-07-2012, 10:31 PM
i use legs i kick and stomp, if you don't want to get kicked, punched, choked or stomped don't pick a fight with me its pretty simple. i've been in plenty of fight to know that no fight is a fair fight.

RaininTwos
04-07-2012, 10:57 PM
This shit is just super lame.

I abhor fighting, its just something that I dont do unless its a last resort and I'm not even fully trained, you know? I've been doing Krav Maga for a bit and I've always been a good fighter but seriously? I wish I knew the back story behind this, but I am sure that fighting wasn't necessary at all. Plus who video tapes a fight where a supposed "street thug" gets his ass whooped and taunted?? The title just seems racially driven.

RaininTwos
04-07-2012, 10:59 PM
i use legs i kick and stomp, if you don't want to get kicked, punched, choked or stomped don't pick a fight with me its pretty simple. i've been in plenty of fight to know that no fight is a fair fight.
I feel you, but why do all of that when you could just drop the dude? He could have ended this early but he chose to showboat with roundhouses and shit.

Jackass18
04-08-2012, 12:49 PM
i remember i was once watching discovery channel(i believe--regardless, it was a major network airing the show) and it showed marines training in hand to hand combat. the marines drill instructor leading the hand to hand combat commented that they train marines to defend themselves in life and death situations meaning it is different than mma. he said something along the lines of "get me in the octagon with rampage jackson(? or some other famous mma fighter) and he'll beat me, but outside the octagon, i'll kill him"

something along those lines. anyone with more knowledge in fighting, is this true? what is the difference between fighting styles?

Part of the thinking is that MMA fighters train and fight with rules, so if it's a life and death situation, then they think they might hesitate or won't go for a vital spot so quickly, and partly because many people who join the military think they're Rambo and think they can take on a small army all by themselves. Maybe some would hesitate, but others won't. Some MMA fighters are also in the military like Tim Kennedy, who's a Green Beret. I'd like to see Mr. Marine fight him inside a cage or outside of one. IIRC, military training is more about either using their weapons or using hand-to-hand combat so that they can get back to their weapon to be more effective.

Jackass18
04-08-2012, 12:58 PM
Who kicks and knees in a straight up fight?

People who know how to actually use them.


I think stomping a person out is a lame tactic. You let them get up and knuckle up again. Trying to stomp and pummel them?

If you're defending yourself from some asshole, then why would you give that person every opportunity to kick your ass? That's just dumb.


Lame, corny. That person gets up, you put them back on that ass. Fight is over/broken up.

That's the stupid street mentality adopted by people who don't know how to fight. Let's put everyone on equal grounds because they might get their ass kicked if someone else uses something that they don't know how to.

AlphaWolf24
04-08-2012, 01:00 PM
Kicking? :oldlol:

Throw your hands. If you cant throw hands, then bow out. Now if this guy was being jumped, robbed? Understood. Who kicks and knees in a straight up fight?

NOW, I agree no one knows the story behind this. So maybe the black dude provoked the fight after he knew or was told that he trained for MMA. But listening to the commentary after the FIRST KICK, the black guys friend was shocked/surprised. So I'm going to assume this was a straight up fight.

Why is this MMA fighter being billed as the good guy, and the black dude a street thug? Not so much thread title but video. They dont offer any background on the fight. Heck probably dont even own the video and got it from somewhere and decided to upload it.

I guess you can say its a fight, anything goes. But kicking, then kneeing? Come on, he knows how to punch because he caught the dude clean and backed him up a bit.


so wait....if you are in a fight your not allowed to use your legs???



:roll:



most street fights end up on the ground....where hopefully one would know how to use their legs and hips to defend.

"Throwing hands" is one small aspect of fighting...."throwing hands" or "boxing" is actually just a silly agreement like this.....




"Hey I'm tough!!!...I'm gonna Fight you!!.....but were only allowed to use our hands ok?.....and hey why were at it...lets put huge pillows on our hands to make it soft!!......lets FIGHT!!"







hopefully in a fight or life and death situation you would know how to use your whole body not just hands....

as the video clearly shows..

GOBB
04-08-2012, 01:01 PM
hopefully in a fight or life and death situation you would know how to use your whole body not just hands....

as the video clearly shows..

Wasnt nearly a death situation. In fact it was broken up after the dude got a couple knees to the grill. What are you babbling about? And the other kid knew how to throw his hands. He even could take SHOTS. What is the remake of Karate Kid part II for? D!ckhead.


People who know how to actually use them.

If you're defending yourself from some asshole, then why would you give that person every opportunity to kick your ass? That's just dumb.


That's the stupid street mentality adopted by people who don't know how to fight. Let's put everyone on equal grounds because they might get their ass kicked if someone else uses something that they don't know how to.

What are you talkin about? Obviously my replies are directed towards 2 people who agreed to fight. Atleast follow the convo.

2 idiots decided to throw hands in the field. It was already set up. Even video taped. How are any of your scenerios relevant? Oh they arent jackass.

Jackass18
04-08-2012, 01:07 PM
Meh, the video was removed. Why act like they signed a contract before the fight dictating that only punches would be used? They agreed to fight, but I doubt they sat down and discussed rules and conduct beforehand.

AlphaWolf24
04-08-2012, 01:12 PM
[QUOTE=Edwin]The difference is that Marines are probably trained to use weapons and the place they're surrounded by in their favor. Let's say a BJJ fighter isn't. Watch some Bas Rutten demos on street fighting and you'll get the idea.

However I highly doubt an unarmed Marine could beat up a BJJ black belt for example.



Most marines are trained in very basic hand to hand combat...but have great training in Firing weapons and firing off rounds in standing and prone positions...so yeah..a Marine with a weapon would have a great chance to Kill anything...pretty much a no brainer..

many Marines have the oppurtunity to advance their training in hand to hand combat (witch uses BJJ and Kickboxing)

I would agree that a Marine without proper ground training vs a BJJ Blackbelt would get submitted....but one would think a Marine with Training would mop the floor with a BJJ Blk belt...especially if they have equal BJJ training..

AlphaWolf24
04-08-2012, 01:15 PM
I'd like to see him fight someone who can actually...fight. The n!gga has zero hands and does not move his head.


not really about the hands though...even if he boxed his whole Life, if someone trained take downs and submission , he could just take him down and choke him..


only knowing how to box is not going to help you against someone who can take you down and control you..

tomtucker
04-08-2012, 01:17 PM
where can we see the video now :confusedshrug:

GOBB
04-08-2012, 01:19 PM
Meh, the video was removed. Why act like they signed a contract before the fight dictating that only punches would be used? They agreed to fight, but I doubt they sat down and discussed rules and conduct beforehand.

Nah there were no rules or conduct. But they were in a field recording their soon to be fight. No one was jumping in it. The round house kicks, the leg kicks were just lame. The one kid clearly has a solid chin (he ate 3-4 shots to the face) and he also showed he could throw back punches (caught the kid clean and backed him up). So whats with the stupid thigh, calf kicks. Corny.

And after the one kid gave up? Fight was over, everyone went home. Dispite the stupid kicking, I applaud both for throwing down then going home. No extra nonsense like anyone getting jumped, someone wanted to use a weapon. They rumbled and bounced. Just didnt see the point of the kicking.

reppy
04-08-2012, 01:21 PM
where can we see the video now :confusedshrug:

Just type it in to Google. You'll see it.

AlphaWolf24
04-08-2012, 01:26 PM
Wasnt nearly a death situation. In fact it was broken up after the dude got a couple knees to the grill. What are you babbling about? And the other kid knew how to throw his hands. He even could take SHOTS. What is the remake of Karate Kid part II for? D!ckhead.



What are you talkin about? Obviously my replies are directed towards 2 people who agreed to fight. Atleast follow the convo.

2 idiots decided to throw hands in the field. It was already set up. Even video taped. How are any of your scenerios relevant? Oh they arent jackass.


Why are you getting angry??:lol


You asked why the other guy was throwing Kicks in a streetfight....and not just throwing punches?

I think you mistake Fighting with "Boxing".....in a Fight you want to end the opponents ability to harm you as quick as possible without taking any damage....

why stand and only throw punches when you can Kick his leg or knee him in his head.....or even take him down and choke him unconscious taking little to no damage.

"Boxing" is not Fighting....Boxing is a agreement to only use the hands and try to hit each other in the head or torso (a very small aspect of overall fighting)

The white dude clearly knew how to use multiple techniques and made the other guy quit....in a life or death situation (hand to hand combat) he could have Knocked him unconsious with a few more head kicks and either walked away unharmed or Killed him while he was lying on the ground...


that is the main point of fighting IMO.

Jackass18
04-08-2012, 01:39 PM
Nah there were no rules or conduct. But they were in a field recording their soon to be fight. No one was jumping in it. The round house kicks, the leg kicks were just lame. The one kid clearly has a solid chin (he ate 3-4 shots to the face) and he also showed he could throw back punches (caught the kid clean and backed him up). So whats with the stupid thigh, calf kicks. Corny.

And after the one kid gave up? Fight was over, everyone went home. Dispite the stupid kicking, I applaud both for throwing down then going home. No extra nonsense like anyone getting jumped, someone wanted to use a weapon. They rumbled and bounced. Just didnt see the point of the kicking.

I'm guessing the black dude wanted to test himself and the white guy threw in the kicks to show him real fighting.

RaininTwos
04-08-2012, 01:40 PM
Roundhouse shit was just corny, he was clearly superior to the other dude, why even do that?

That like me stepping on a court full of old guys and doing fancy ass dribbling moves when I could have just drove to the rim.

Discipline is at an all time low these days.

AlphaWolf24
04-08-2012, 01:45 PM
Roundhouse shit was just corny, he was clearly superior to the other dude, why even do that?

That like me stepping on a court full of old guys and doing fancy ass dribbling moves when I could have just drove to the rim.

Discipline is at an all time low these days.


The roundhouse Kick wasn't a roundhouse it was a question mark or head kick..

wasn't corny...it was trying to do this>>>http://www.tapoutlive.com/media/6576/Ed_Herman_Fight_from_High_School/

(Ed Herman a Pro Fighter when he was in Highschool and very raw with technique)

Rake2204
04-08-2012, 01:47 PM
where can we see the video now :confusedshrug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0YzcUzpULo

Draz
04-08-2012, 01:51 PM
Edit

Rake2204
04-08-2012, 01:51 PM
The roundhouse Kick wasn't a roundhouse it was a question mark or head kick..

wasn't corny...it was trying to do this>>>http://www.tapoutlive.com/media/6576/Ed_Herman_Fight_from_High_School/

(Ed Herman a Pro Fighter when he was in Highschool and very raw with technique)
I was not familiar with Ed Herman. I looked him up and he's listed at 6'2'' 185 now but he looks huge compared to the other guy in that video. Bet the little fellow was not expecting that finishing move. I'm trying to picture how zany it'd be to watch a relatively big guy in a polo shirt in '97 drop someone with a face kick in my school parking lot.

GOBB
04-08-2012, 01:52 PM
The roundhouse Kick wasn't a roundhouse it was a question mark or head kick..

wasn't corny...it was trying to do this>>>http://www.tapoutlive.com/media/6576/Ed_Herman_Fight_from_High_School/

(Ed Herman a Pro Fighter when he was in Highschool and very raw with technique)

He's throwing hands...in fact he is WHUPPING DUDE ASS by throwing hands. Whats with the kick? He cant knock dude out with his fists (clearly by compu box numbers he OWNED HIM) that you kick? Lame.


Looks too much like a movie. The bad guy, popular jock kicks the new guys ass with a kick. Stands over him, pops collar then walks off with his goons as they laugh. "Yeah Tommy yea!! :applause: "

Ed Herman was creaming this dude with his hands. Finish him you puss

AlphaWolf24
04-08-2012, 02:15 PM
He's throwing hands...in fact he is WHUPPING DUDE ASS by throwing hands. Whats with the kick? He cant knock dude out with his fists (clearly by compu box numbers he OWNED HIM) that you kick? Lame.


Looks too much like a movie. The bad guy, popular jock kicks the new guys ass with a kick. Stands over him, pops collar then walks off with his goons as they laugh. "Yeah Tommy yea!! :applause: "

Ed Herman was creaming this dude with his hands. Finish him you puss


why only throwing hands is not good....

Video - Large Man(the bald white dude) approaches a couple (who happen to train BJJ and Kickboxing) while the younger guy (black dude) hits him with a few punches....the larger guy throws him to the ground(not shown)....the younger guy reverses him and gets full mount (top position) and quickly makes the guy on bottom quit...walks away unharmed and ends the confrontation very well..

from the video ..clearly shown the older gentlemen is much Larger but failed...due to technique (BJJ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m3HcgR2_vA&list=UURT6SmsSeGDXcqDR9seNwBg&index=6&feature=plcp

GOBB
04-08-2012, 02:20 PM
why only throwing hands is not good....

Video - Large Man(the bald white dude) approaches a couple (who happen to train BJJ and Kickboxing) while the younger guy (black dude) hits him with a few punches....the larger guy throws him to the ground(not shown)....the younger guy reverses him and gets full mount (top position) and quickly makes the guy on bottom quit...walks away unharmed and ends the confrontation very well..

from the video ..clearly shown the older gentlemen is much Larger but failed...due to technique (BJJ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m3HcgR2_vA&list=UURT6SmsSeGDXcqDR9seNwBg&index=6&feature=plcp


you left out the part...NO KICKS WERE THROWN. :roll:

AlphaWolf24
04-08-2012, 02:30 PM
you left out the part...NO KICKS WERE THROWN. :roll:


100% wrong...in the beginning of the video the younger guy actually threw a jumping knee or kick..I can't remember...I'll try to find it.

he threw a Kick and then they went to the ground..


if only he stood up and threw sloppy punches with someone 50lbs heavier:rolleyes:

GOBB
04-08-2012, 02:33 PM
100% wrong...in the beginning of the video the younger guy actually threw a jumping knee or kick..I can't remember...I'll try to find it.

he threw a Kick and then they went to the ground..


if only he stood up and threw sloppy punches with someone 50lbs heavier:rolleyes:

I dont care the two wrestled on the ground and threw punches. I spoke on kicks. Get a clue dummy.

AlphaWolf24
04-08-2012, 02:36 PM
I dont care the two wrestled on the ground and threw punches. I spoke on kicks. Get a clue dummy.


yeah...like I said...Kicks were thrown...but the fight ended up on the ground....where the BJJ player owned the guy and ended the confontation and walked away unharmed...

perfect scenario when fighting someone bigger...



oh that's right!...he should have stood up bobbed his head and rolled his shoulders...:roll:

GOBB
04-08-2012, 02:40 PM
yeah...like I said...Kicks were thrown...but the fight ended up on the ground....where the BJJ player owned the guy and ended the confontation and walked away unharmed...

perfect scenario when fighting someone bigger...



oh that's right!...he should have stood up bobbed his head and rolled his shoulders...:roll:

Never said that. :confusedshrug:

You must be arguing with a youtube commentor and confusing them with me. If you're speaking on the other tactic I considered lame? I said stomping out someone then pummeling them clearly when they are down/done. The video you showed doesnt speak on anything I frown on.

AlphaWolf24
04-08-2012, 02:58 PM
Never said that. :confusedshrug:

You must be arguing with a youtube commentor and confusing them with me. If you're speaking on the other tactic I considered lame? I said stomping out someone then pummeling them clearly when they are down/done. The video you showed doesnt speak on anything I frown on.


WTF are you talking about?

you need to list your criteria for when someone should "Throw hands"...or "Throw Kicks"...or "wrestle"...or "Stomp".....or whetever you think is ok.


I saw 3 circumstances .....

#1. 2 Kids in a park ...1 kid throws a multiple punches with intent to harm his opponent....the other Kid throws a punch followed by a knee to the head and ends the fight....You said he shouldn't throw knee's???..just throw punches....why?

#2. 2 highschool kids fighting in a parking lot......1 kid headbutt's his opponent....other kid eye gouges him....wild punches are thrown to do harm....fight is ended by a kick to the head.....KO'ing one of the kids....you said why did he kick?..should have just thrown punches...:confusedshrug:

#3. 2 grown men fighting in a parking lot....1 man has a clear size advantage....other man kicks the larger man.....both men are on the ground....smaller man gets mount threw BJJ training and makes the other man stop fighting....smaller man walks away unharmed.


exactly what you said...

we get it..you like Boxing......It's a great sport....2 men with an agreement to only use their hands.


but it is not fighting.

GOBB
04-08-2012, 03:15 PM
I have no idea what you're ranting about. I'll chalk it up to a cool story bro. :confusedshrug:

Draz
04-08-2012, 03:22 PM
Man that dude got fhuked up lol more vids!

IamSofaKing
04-08-2012, 03:35 PM
i remember i was once watching discovery channel(i believe--regardless, it was a major network airing the show) and it showed marines training in hand to hand combat. the marines drill instructor leading the hand to hand combat commented that they train marines to defend themselves in life and death situations meaning it is different than mma. he said something along the lines of "get me in the octagon with rampage jackson(? or some other famous mma fighter) and he'll beat me, but outside the octagon, i'll kill him"

something along those lines. anyone with more knowledge in fighting, is this true? what is the difference between fighting styles?

the last fight i got in was in high school. lol. wasn't much of a fight though. i'll be the first to admit i really don't know how to fight...i've always just used my strength to throw people into walls or something.


This is so stupid.

If the Marine can fight dirty outside of the octagon, why cant Rampage?

macmac
04-08-2012, 03:47 PM
This is so stupid.

If the Marine can fight dirty outside of the octagon, why cant Rampage?

Because they're trained to kill

IamSofaKing
04-08-2012, 03:53 PM
Because they're trained to kill

Lemme get this straight, you think a Marine can kill a MMA fighter? Even if the Marine grapples with a MMA fighter you know who would win...

And to those who say kicking is lame in a fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In6payelPgs

iamgine
04-08-2012, 04:04 PM
it takes a different mentality to kill.

RaininTwos
04-08-2012, 04:05 PM
Lemme get this straight, you think a Marine can kill a MMA fighter? Even if the Marine grapples with a MMA fighter you know who would win...

And to those who say kicking is lame in a fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In6payelPgs
When did fighting become so cut and dry? There are so many variables at play. I'm leaning towards the marine because they are prepared to kill. This isn't just about skill, they are mentally prepared to do whatever it takes to emerge victorious. Think about that. No loss is too great.

IamSofaKing
04-08-2012, 04:10 PM
When did fighting become so cut and dry? There are so many variables at play. I'm leaning towards the marine because they are prepared to kill. This isn't just about skill, they are mentally prepared to do whatever it takes to emerge victorious. Think about that. No loss is too great.

Its amazing what adrenaline can do, if both guys were fighting to the death hand to hand give me the MMA guy hands down. I mean what does a marine do? Nut shots? Marines cant out grapple or outstrike a MMA fighter. So what advantage do they have?

RaininTwos
04-08-2012, 04:13 PM
Its amazing what adrenaline can do, if both guys were fighting to the death hand to hand give me the MMA guy hands down. I mean what does a marine do? Nut shots? Marines cant out grapple or outstrike a MMA fighter. So what advantage do they have?
You cannot be serious here.

GOBB
04-08-2012, 04:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfWywyVsrFU

I'm a fan of this guy. I enjoy his vids. Buakaw, muy thai. :bowdown:

Jackass18
04-08-2012, 05:45 PM
Here's one for ya - 1 trained douche against 2 untrained douches with no kicks being used: http://ironforgesiron.com/2011/11/video-ufc-fighter-beats-up-2-guys-while-recording-it-from-his-cell-phone/

Meticode
04-08-2012, 05:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfWywyVsrFU

I'm a fan of this guy. I enjoy his vids. Buakaw, muy thai. :bowdown:

I can't imagine the pain he endured conditioning his shins to be able to do that.

Buakaw kicking a banana tree. How does a muay thai champion do this? 22 years of shin conditioning is the answer. No tricks. Just hard work over 2 decades. Buakaw por Pramuk was born in Thailand and is a muay thai kickboxing super star. Buakaw is a k1 max muay thai champion. They call him the 'dog out of Bangkok'. Buakaw is known for his 'amazing 2 leg' kick.

c3z4r
04-08-2012, 06:10 PM
another example of this is when that former mma fighter beat the college football player in like 5 seconds flat.

Edit: found video

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/pro-fighters-street-brawl-caught-tape-11325155

GOBB
04-08-2012, 06:28 PM
Yeah no one has EVER saw the Huerta video. Thanks for posting imagine if no one ever saw this? :rolleyes:


Here's one for ya - 1 trained douche against 2 untrained douches with no kicks being used: http://ironforgesiron.com/2011/11/video-ufc-fighter-beats-up-2-guys-while-recording-it-from-his-cell-phone/

Come at me. Room 212, poosies! :roll:

:bowdown:


Those guys had to be drunk. What a wicked hangover they had the next morning.

"Yo Todd! Todd!! I cant see, I'm blind!"

"I'm here Todd, oh shyt oh shyt I'm blind too. What the f*ck!"

Their eyes closed shut.

GOBB
04-08-2012, 06:29 PM
I can't imagine the pain he endured conditioning his shins to be able to do that.

Buakaw kicking a banana tree. How does a muay thai champion do this? 22 years of shin conditioning is the answer. No tricks. Just hard work over 2 decades. Buakaw por Pramuk was born in Thailand and is a muay thai kickboxing super star. Buakaw is a k1 max muay thai champion. They call him the 'dog out of Bangkok'. Buakaw is known for his 'amazing 2 leg' kick.


He's a beast man. :bowdown:

tomtucker
04-08-2012, 06:57 PM
Just type it in to Google. You'll see it.

i did...i was just afraid it was the wrong street thug video i saw.....they could be others :oldlol:

GoRapz
04-08-2012, 07:00 PM
Yeah no one has EVER saw the Huerta video. Thanks for posting imagine if no one ever saw this? :rolleyes:



Come at me. Room 212, poosies! :roll:

:bowdown:


Those guys had to be drunk. What a wicked hangover they had the next morning.

"Yo Todd! Todd!! I cant see, I'm blind!"

"I'm here Todd, oh shyt oh shyt I'm blind too. What the f*ck!"

Their eyes closed shut.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The best part is when the douchebag tells the guy to walk the other way....or what??? those guys got man handled in a 30 second span

GOBB
04-08-2012, 07:14 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

The best part is when the douchebag tells the guy to walk the other way....or what??? those guys got man handled in a 30 second span

:roll: Yeah the guy with the cell tells the two "walk the other way", then one of the guy is pointing "no you walk the other way". Its a classic WAIT WHAT moment. Dude you're the one that has a bloody nose. YOU walk the other way, you dont tell the guy who did the ass kicking to take a walk. I never laughed so damn hard. Wow.

CelticBaller
04-08-2012, 07:46 PM
it takes a different mentality to kill.
exactly.

Rake2204
04-08-2012, 08:21 PM
Here's one for ya - 1 trained douche against 2 untrained douches with no kicks being used: http://ironforgesiron.com/2011/11/video-ufc-fighter-beats-up-2-guys-while-recording-it-from-his-cell-phone/
Haha. Perfect description on your part. Though, if I could do what the guy holding the camera did to both of those fellas, I'd probably spew a little ignorance too.

One of them was looking like the face from Doom after the player takes on a lot of damage.

NuggetsFan
04-08-2012, 08:37 PM
Just didnt see the point of the kicking.

Generally in a fight anything goes .. I think you'd probably see more people kick if they actually could do it effectively. I'd probably try and roundhouse kick somebody if I could actually pull it off :oldlol:

Dude who tries to bring the rule book to a throw down isn't very bright IMO. In the heat of the moment who the f*ck is thinking oh shit can I use my elbows or is that lame.

code green
04-08-2012, 08:49 PM
I see where Gobb's going with this, and agree to a certain extent. When I was taught to fight, it was the same way. This is how you stand, this is how you make a fist, this is how you throw a punch....he gets knocked down, leave him there. If he comes at you more, put him back down on the ground. I've seen my share of street fights and can't remember ever seeing a kick once. I'm not saying it's wrong to kick...but if I saw someone doing throwing a kick during a brawl, I'd be like :wtf: ?


There's something classic about a man only needing his two fists to settle the score. Again, not saying it's the right way to do it....it's how I was taught as well.


Oh, I didn't realize there's a "black" and "white" way of fighting. I'm 100% Lebanese, doesn't change the way I fight.

ace23
04-13-2012, 04:38 PM
Do you kickers view scratching, hair pulling, biting, etc. as acceptable in an arranged fight? Do you find those tactics girly/feminine?

I think that's how GOBB feels about kicking. Life or death situation, anything goes. In an organized fight? Throw hands.

Brujesino
04-13-2012, 04:48 PM
Do you kickers view scratching, hair pulling, biting, etc. as acceptable in an arranged fight? Do you find those tactics girly/feminine?

I think that's how GOBB feels about kicking. Life or death situation, anything goes. In an organized fight? Throw hands.
Except for MMA is organized fighting and they allow kicks.

In a street fight i would fight dirty with the exception of kicking you in the balls and using weapons.If the opportunity to poke you in the eyes and then kick you in the face i would do it.If you were down i would kick you.If i could pull your hair and punch you i would do it.As long as i win i dont give a shit what people say.

GOBB
04-13-2012, 04:55 PM
Except for MMA is organized fighting and they allow kicks.

In a street fight i would fight dirty with the exception of kicking you in the balls and using weapons.If the opportunity to poke you in the eyes and then kick you in the face i would do it.If you were down i would kick you.If i could pull your hair and punch you i would do it.As long as i win i dont give a shit what people say.

Poke a person in the eye? Pull hair and punch them? What are you trying out for the 3 Stooges? :confusedshrug:

Lebron23
04-13-2012, 04:55 PM
Sweet Chin Music

Brujesino
04-13-2012, 04:57 PM
Poke a person in the eye? Pull hair and punch them? What are you trying out for the 3 Stooges? :confusedshrug:
If i can pull off a 3 stooges poke in a fight i should automatically win:oldlol:

Jackass18
04-13-2012, 05:13 PM
Do you kickers view scratching, hair pulling, biting, etc. as acceptable in an arranged fight? Do you find those tactics girly/feminine?

I think that's how GOBB feels about kicking. Life or death situation, anything goes. In an organized fight? Throw hands.

Organized fight? What, is this high school or something? Meet me by the flag pole at 4:00 and we'll duke it out like a bunch of idiots? If you're at a party and some douche starts shit with you and ends up throwing a punch, then defend yourself however the **** you best can.

GOBB
04-13-2012, 05:18 PM
I see where Gobb's going with this, and agree to a certain extent. When I was taught to fight, it was the same way. This is how you stand, this is how you make a fist, this is how you throw a punch....he gets knocked down, leave him there. If he comes at you more, put him back down on the ground. I've seen my share of street fights and can't remember ever seeing a kick once. I'm not saying it's wrong to kick...but if I saw someone doing throwing a kick during a brawl, I'd be like :wtf: ?


There's something classic about a man only needing his two fists to settle the score. Again, not saying it's the right way to do it....it's how I was taught as well.


Oh, I didn't realize there's a "black" and "white" way of fighting. I'm 100% Lebanese, doesn't change the way I fight.

:cheers: We're on the same page bro. And I'm biracial, I too didnt realize there was a black and white way of fighting.

ace23
04-13-2012, 05:29 PM
Organized fight? What, is this high school or something? Meet me by the flag pole at 4:00 and we'll duke it out like a bunch of idiots? If you're at a party and some douche starts shit with you and ends up throwing a punch, then defend yourself however the **** you best can.
Fight in the OP looked like it was arranged. :confusedshrug:

dunksby
04-13-2012, 05:31 PM
If I get into a fight with someone on the street I won't hesitate to do anything to protect myself and hurt my aggressor I don't care if I have to bite or kick or poke. Those who say they would not have probably never been in a real fight.

GOBB
04-13-2012, 05:55 PM
If I get into a fight with someone on the street I won't hesitate to do anything to protect myself and hurt my aggressor I don't care if I have to bite or kick or poke. Those who say they would not have probably never been in a real fight.

That logic is so dumb.

If this is a life and death situation? Fine. If you're in Dubai and some radicAL group kidnaps you? And you're fighting hard so they wont pull you in that Scooby Doo lookin van? Bite, poke, f*ck it SCREAM because you know if they pull you in? You're chances of living are done. You're gonna end up in some smelly apartment being tortured as these idiots ask your country to "Release x,y,z or we kill him.". And your country will laugh :roll: and say "Who the f*ck is that? Do what you got to do.". Yeah, bite, kick, pull hair, scream at the top of your lungs in that situation.

You're in a playground, I hard foul you. You take issue with it and want to fight? Our adrenaline is going, our pride is tested and we fight? You're not going to bite, poke, pull my hair. And if you do?

1. You're a girly boy
2. You are doing this because I'm kicking your ass and you are embarrassed

But honestly? I doubt you would resort to these tactics. So please, enough with that you never been in a fight before if you laugh at biting/poking eyes.



What fights are you guys even talkin about? The video was in a football field of some sort. It was 2 groups, one filming. So they both agreed we are gonna rumble. Why would you bite and poke eyes in that instance?

dunksby
04-13-2012, 06:10 PM
That logic is so dumb.

If this is a life and death situation? Fine. If you're in Dubai and some radicAL group kidnaps you? And you're fighting hard so they wont pull you in that Scooby Doo lookin van? Bite, poke, f*ck it SCREAM because you know if they pull you in? You're chances of living are done. You're gonna end up in some smelly apartment being tortured as these idiots ask your country to "Release x,y,z or we kill him.". And your country will laugh :roll: and say "Who the f*ck is that? Do what you got to do.". Yeah, bite, kick, pull hair, scream at the top of your lungs in that situation.

You're in a playground, I hard foul you. You take issue with it and want to fight? Our adrenaline is going, our pride is tested and we fight? You're not going to bite, poke, pull my hair. And if you do?

1. You're a girly boy
2. You are doing this because I'm kicking your ass and you are embarrassed

But honestly? I doubt you would resort to these tactics. So please, enough with that you never been in a fight before if you laugh at biting/poking eyes.



What fights are you guys even talkin about? The video was in a football field of some sort. It was 2 groups, one filming. So they both agreed we are gonna rumble. Why would you bite and poke eyes in that instance?
I clearly specified a REAL fight not something you arrange to do to become famous on the Internet.

GOBB
04-13-2012, 06:16 PM
I clearly specified a REAL fight not something you arrange to do to become famous on the Internet.

Famous on the internet? People will record birds eating bread at the park. 15yrs ago they didnt. 15yrs later they do.

What constitutes as a real fight to you? Seriously poking out peoples eyes. If you cant fight then back down, tuck your tail between your legs. If you dont want any confrontations then dont go to places where it could possible happen. Just picturing you poking someones eyes out in a "real fight" is hilarious. No other way around it.

Why dont you just kick me in the nuts? For real, if you can pull hair, bite and poke eyes? KICK ME IN THE NUTS. Would you do that? Because thats more effective than poking eye, biting, pulling hair. What if I'm bald? You're gonna pull my ears like the 3 Stooges, nuck nuck nuck cmere! Follow my finger in the sky *gut punch*, *ear tug up*, *poke in the eyes*. you win! :bowdown:

dunksby
04-13-2012, 06:26 PM
Famous on the internet? People will record birds eating bread at the park. 15yrs ago they didnt. 15yrs later they do.

What constitutes as a real fight to you? Seriously poking out peoples eyes. If you cant fight then back down, tuck your tail between your legs. If you dont want any confrontations then dont go to places where it could possible happen. Just picturing you poking someones eyes out in a "real fight" is hilarious. No other way around it.

Why dont you just kick me in the nuts? For real, if you can pull hair, bite and poke eyes? KICK ME IN THE NUTS. Would you do that? Because thats more effective than poking eye, biting, pulling hair. What if I'm bald? You're gonna pull my ears like the 3 Stooges, nuck nuck nuck cmere! Follow my finger in the sky *gut punch*, *ear tug up*, *poke in the eyes*. you win! :bowdown:
Dude did you read my post? I said I would do anything to hurt somebody who is willing to hurt me. What constitutes a real fight? The fact that someone else is more than ready to hurt me and is coming at me, of course there are levels to it and biting and poking and shit like that are for when I'm overpowered and have to do it else I'm in a world of hurt.

AlphaWolf24
04-13-2012, 06:33 PM
Famous on the internet? People will record birds eating bread at the park. 15yrs ago they didnt. 15yrs later they do.

What constitutes as a real fight to you? Seriously poking out peoples eyes. If you cant fight then back down, tuck your tail between your legs. If you dont want any confrontations then dont go to places where it could possible happen. Just picturing you poking someones eyes out in a "real fight" is hilarious. No other way around it.

Why dont you just kick me in the nuts? For real, if you can pull hair, bite and poke eyes? KICK ME IN THE NUTS. Would you do that? Because thats more effective than poking eye, biting, pulling hair. What if I'm bald? You're gonna pull my ears like the 3 Stooges, nuck nuck nuck cmere! Follow my finger in the sky *gut punch*, *ear tug up*, *poke in the eyes*. you win! :bowdown:


WTF?.....you never know how someone will react...

someone could very easily attack you by Pulling , grabbing , gouging , biting etc....when someone is threatened (at the court at the club at the grocery store)... Fight or Flight will take over...and who knows how they will react...most certainly they won't start bobbing and weaving and only use thier hands.

even that stupid high school video of Ed Herman i posted....showed that one guy head but's Herman ...then Herman eye gouges him...


if you think everyone is just gonna throw sloppy haymakers when they fight...you are in for serious wake up call kid...

it's the streets HOMEY!!!>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgXh-jXG-Vk