Carmelo has no weaknesses

[airchibundo507]

Discuss.

He is no longer a black hole. The double teams come and he works the ball out and generates easy shots for his teammates.

His defense is stellar. He guards twos, threes and fours, in the post, on the perimeter. Solid in rotation. Closes out on shooters. Puts a lot of effort into boxing out.

He is the most versatile scoring force in the league. Whether running him off screens, giving him the ball in the post, or him running point forward and using the pick and roll to abuse opposing defenses. Post game. Mid-range game. Three-point shooter. Penetration. He can make any shot, ESPECIALLY when the game is on the line.

There are no holes in Melo's game and this is evident to anybody who watches him.

[AMISTILLILL]

...wait, when did his defense become stellar? And when did he quit playing ISO ball 60% of the time?

[GreenChampion]

I love Knicks fans.

Melo has one good game and all of a sudden he is MJ re-incarnated.

If either of those bad 3's he took today missed they would all be saying he needs to be traded.

[FPJ]

Finally, an objective opinion from a knicks fan. You certainly are not one to overreact having the sample size of a few games.

Honestly, i cant see how the Knicks wont win the rings this season.:yaohappy:

[TMacYao]

It's good to see a superstar play up to his potential. Melo looks confident again, and I don't know how you stop him from scoring when he gets in that kind of a zone. Dropping 43 on Chicago is a statement to the rest of the league. Welcome back Melo.

[airchibundo507]

...wait, when did his defense become stellar? And when did he quit playing ISO ball 60% of the time?

He is an average defender at the very least. When he tries he is damn good at it. He is pesky and is excellent at stripping his man. He hustles. He is versatile on that end and does a great job against his man on a nightly basis.

What the fck is wrong with iso-ing from the post? Is there something wrong with post offense? Melo is unguardable and when the double teams comes, he finds the open players. That sounds like a potent offense to me.

[midatlantic09]

His weakness is that he can't seem to ever get in good shape.

[AMISTILLILL]

He is an average defender at the very least. When he tries he is damn good at it. He is pesky and is excellent at stripping his man. He hustles. He is versatile on that end and does a great job against his man on a nightly basis.

What the fck is wrong with iso-ing from the post? Is there something wrong with post offense? Melo is unguardable and when the double teams comes, he finds the open players. That sounds like a potent offense to me.

None of this sounds like a player with no weaknesses.

[airchibundo507]

I don't know how many nationally televised games it will take for you guys to figure this sht out. Maybe you are hopeless.

Woodson benched ALL of our point guards in the fourth quarter and OT because, frankly, they sucked. Guess who ran point forward? Guess who ran pick and rolls and facilitated the offense and generated WIDE OPEN shots for Novak, Smith and Shumpert? I mean are you people blind?

Melo is a PG/SG/SF/PF. He can do and does do everything on the court.

[airchibundo507]

None of this sounds like a player with no weaknesses.

he plays defense.
he guards SG/SF/PF.
he scores on the block.
he has the deadliest mid range game in the league.
he is a lethal three point shooter.
he is a facilitator.
he is a pnr playmaker.
he has point guard duties.
he is the clutchest player in basketball.

find me a weakness and I will correct you.

[AMISTILLILL]

he plays defense.
he guards SG/SF/PF.
he scores on the block.
he has the deadliest mid range game in the league.
he is a lethal three point shooter.
he is a facilitator.
he is a pnr playmaker.
he has point guard duties.
he is the clutchest player in basketball.

find me a weakness and I will correct you.

He plays defense... he doesn't play 'stellar' defense. You made it sound like he's vastly improved on defense, when that isn't the case.

I'm the last person to discount the guy. I actually hope he plays well, despite having my own quarrels with the team and their fan base. He played a hell of a game today and has dealt with the challenge of keeping that Knicks team in the playoff race without Amar'e/Lin impressively. I just think it's a bit premature to sing his praises so early... by no means is he without weaknesses.

[GreenChampion]

I don't know how many nationally televised games it will take for you guys to figure this sht out. Maybe you are hopeless.

Woodson benched ALL of our point guards in the fourth quarter and OT because, frankly, they sucked. Guess who ran point forward? Guess who ran pick and rolls and facilitated the offense and generated WIDE OPEN shots for Novak, Smith and Shumpert? I mean are you people blind?

Melo is a PG/SG/SF/PF. He can do and does do everything on the court.

Yeah because your point guards are so good... Davis has injury worries and Douglas has sucked all season.

Shumpert and Smith were running most of the offense, BTW.

[TMacYao]

Tyson Chandler can cover up a lot of mistakes on defense. I don't see Melo consistantly, but he never stood out to me on the defensive end. Physical relentless scorer, Good rebounder. Coming around with his decision making, but I still need to see him prove himself as a defender.

[airchibundo507]

He plays defense... he doesn't play 'stellar' defense. You made it sound like he's vastly improved on defense, when that isn't the case.

I'm the last person to discount the guy. I actually hope he plays well, despite having my own quarrels with the team and their fan base. He played a hell of a game today and has dealt with the challenge of keeping that Knicks team in the playoff race without Amar'e/Lin impressively. I just think it's a bit premature to sing his praises so early... by no means is he without weaknesses.

Thank you amistill. That's all I wanted.

[Quizno]

he's a borderline top 10 player

[bluechox2]

we won because of jeffries:coleman:

[SevereUpInHere]

You are a disgrace to the Knicks fan base. Bandwagoning fakkit.

Truth, this guy is an annoying Melo homer, nothing more, nothing less.

[arifgokcen]

he plays defense.
he guards SG/SF/PF.
he scores on the block.
he has the deadliest mid range game in the league.
he is a lethal three point shooter.
he is a facilitator.
he is a pnr playmaker.
he has point guard duties.
he is the clutchest player in basketball.

find me a weakness and I will correct you.

Neither of those thing is true.

He doesnt guard sg.He guards sf mostly and sometimes if other team goes small pf.Right now there is only one player in the league that guards true pf/centers while guarding wing players.Lebron

His three point shot has been non-existent in last three years.He was never a good three point shooter.Even lebron is a better three point shooter and thats saying something

He is by no means facilitator.He tries but he just doesnt have it.

He is by no means pnr playmaker.In what world do you see him run succesful
pick and roll more than once or twice in a game..

He has point guard duties but sadly he is not a point guard he cant distribute he doesnt have the court vision to distribute like non-pg Hedo,Lebroni,Iggy et.

The last part is true.He is actually the guy i would pick to shoot the last shot.He has been since his third year.By far the best shot maker down the stretch.He rarely misses when the game is on the line.

[Teanett]

He rarely misses when the game is on the line.

major exaggeration.
he is somethin like 45% in these situations, which is pretty fukking good.

[sirkeelma]

he plays defense.
he guards SG/SF/PF.
he scores on the block.
he has the deadliest mid range game in the league.
he is a lethal three point shooter.
he is a facilitator.
he is a pnr playmaker.
he has point guard duties.
he is the clutchest player in basketball.

find me a weakness and I will correct you.
The Truth will set you free.

[Fiasco]

Carmelo Anthony's weakness is currently sidelined with a linjury.

[iamgine]

Discuss.

He is no longer a black hole. The double teams come and he works the ball out and generates easy shots for his teammates.

His defense is stellar. He guards twos, threes and fours, in the post, on the perimeter. Solid in rotation. Closes out on shooters. Puts a lot of effort into boxing out.

He is the most versatile scoring force in the league. Whether running him off screens, giving him the ball in the post, or him running point forward and using the pick and roll to abuse opposing defenses. Post game. Mid-range game. Three-point shooter. Penetration. He can make any shot, ESPECIALLY when the game is on the line.

There are no holes in Melo's game and this is evident to anybody who watches him.
Those are truth mixed with lies and exaggeration.

[NumberSix]

Discuss.

He is no longer a black hole. The double teams come and he works the ball out and generates easy shots for his teammates.

His defense is stellar. He guards twos, threes and fours, in the post, on the perimeter. Solid in rotation. Closes out on shooters. Puts a lot of effort into boxing out.

He is the most versatile scoring force in the league. Whether running him off screens, giving him the ball in the post, or him running point forward and using the pick and roll to abuse opposing defenses. Post game. Mid-range game. Three-point shooter. Penetration. He can make any shot, ESPECIALLY when the game is on the line.

There are no holes in Melo's game and this is evident to anybody who watches him.
:facepalm phaggit

[Edwin]

Inside Hoops where one good game will redeem your career.

In all seriousness, Melo was tremendous against the Bulls, but he'd have to do this on a more regular basis before you start talking about him being this tremendous All Star quality level player. Dude was lacking in a lot of areas before getting injured and now he has one good game and everyone's acting like they didn't want him traded from the Knicks due to lacking and the Knicks losing.

[Dave3]

he plays defense. Everyone "plays" defense. His isn't very good.


he guards SG/SF/PF.
He guards Kevin Love, Dirk, Griffin etc? Really? Find me one game of him defending them properly.



he scores on the block.

Also shoots 21% from 3-9 feet away from the basket.



he has the deadliest mid range game in the league.
You'd think the deadliest could muster more than 31% from there then.


he is a lethal three point shooter.
He has been in the past, but this season? 31%. You have pretty low standards if 31% is lethal. Unless of course you're using one game to make an argument. But you wouldn't be so short sighted would you?



he is a facilitator.
he is a pnr playmaker.
he has point guard duties.

Just because he holds onto the ball for plays doesn't make him a facilitator or playmaker. Holding the ball the majority of the time for an offense and passing it a few times when forced to isn't being a playmaker. It just means he doesn't force up every shot possible.

I'd hardly call someone who shoots 42/31 from the field one with no weaknesses. How about shot selection? How about actual play making as opposed to just pick and rolls in attempts to get off a shot?



he is the clutchest player in basketball.

find me a weakness and I will correct you.

You won't correct anything. You'll just make claims that no one else sees except for you. I'll say his shot selection is poor and especially down the clutch when he becomes a black hole (which will be obvious to pretty much everyone) and you'll say "no, he's a great playmaker and the clutchest"

It's not correcting people if you're making false claims.

[The Ownage]

:facepalm This person's opinions do not reflect the opinions of other Knicks fans.

[nathanjizzle]

Discuss.

He is no longer a black hole. The double teams come and he works the ball out and generates easy shots for his teammates.

His defense is stellar. He guards twos, threes and fours, in the post, on the perimeter. Solid in rotation. Closes out on shooters. Puts a lot of effort into boxing out.

He is the most versatile scoring force in the league. Whether running him off screens, giving him the ball in the post, or him running point forward and using the pick and roll to abuse opposing defenses. Post game. Mid-range game. Three-point shooter. Penetration. He can make any shot, ESPECIALLY when the game is on the line.

There are no holes in Melo's game and this is evident to anybody who watches him.

:roll: is this real? all his buckets were spot up shots and hes the most versatile scorer in the league :roll:

[SpecialQue]

All season long people have been bltching about Melo and demanding him to be traded...now they're treating him like he's an improved version of Jordan.

[Rnbizzle]

Eventhough OP is a bit of a Melo stan I will say this, when Melo is playing motivated ball and tries his hardest on D.. He's one of the most complete players I've ever seen.

He can seriously do it all. He's a good rebounder and passer now, and I don't even have to talk about his scoring ability.

[redrich2000]

I'm a knick fan and love Melo in beast mode. I think you can say that when he's in the mood there are very few players, if any, you'd rather have on your team, especially in the clutch. But it has to be said that he has too glaring weaknesses:
1. Inconsistent defence
2. When things aren't going his way he quits and sulks

If he had no weaknesses he wouldn't have been so terrible before D'Antoni was fired. Tyson Chandler didn't sulk through that period he stood up and kept fighting.

[RRR3]

Discuss.

He is no longer a black hole. Sometimes he is, depends on the situation.
The double teams come and he works the ball out and generates easy shots for his teammates. Not as much as he should though

His defense is stellar. No it's okay but not stellar
He guards twos, threes and fours, in the post, on the perimeter. Solid in rotation. Closes out on shooters. Puts a lot of effort into boxing out. You realize you're talking about Carmelo Anthony, not LeBron James, right?

He is the most versatile scoring force in the league.Nah, Kobe or Dirk are.
Whether running him off screens, giving him the ball in the post, or him running point forward and using the pick and roll to abuse opposing defenses. Post game. he has a great post game I'll give you that. Probably best for SF's.
Mid-range game. Not this year, and others have better mid-range games.
Three-point shooter. He's not a great 3PT shooter, never has been except for a stretch last season.
Penetration. Meh
He can make any shot, ESPECIALLY when the game is on the line. I'll give you that, probably best player in the NBA at last second shots

There are no holes in Melo's game and this is evident to anybody who watches him. Bullshit
:coleman:

[Celtic_Pride]

His defense is stellar. He guards twos, threes and fours, in the post, on the perimeter.

:oldlol:

He can guards 2s like Kyle Korver and undersized 4s like David West. And you are making it sound as if he is a Lebron and can guard 2s like Wade, Kobe, Manu and 4s like Gasol, Love etc. :coleman:

By no means his defense is stellar. He is versatile offensively but let's not get carried away and put him in the same level as of Lebron/Durant!

[MeloMike]

Hopefully, next time Melo decides to be a lazy defender, he looks back to these last 7-8 games. He can be an above average defender when he's trying like he has been since Woodson has taken over.

Absolutely no reason he can't keep this up on D. It's not like they're asking him to be Bruce Bowen.

That's the most frustrating thing with Carmelo Anthony. The "When he's trying...." thing. Just put the effort in on D, put the effort in to move the ball, put the effort in on the glass...

Now he's putting that effort in....and you're seeing the difference.

Of course it helps when he's draining 30 footers at the buzzer.

[Nick Young]

you knicks fans are pieces of shit. all year long you've done nothing but trash this man, then your god lin goes down and suddenly Carmelo is perfect and has no weaknesses.

You are trash fans who treat your stars like shit, you dont deserve to have such a strong roster.

[cteach111]

Hopefully, next time Melo decides to be a lazy defender, he looks back to these last 7-8 games. He can be an above average defender when he's trying like he has been since Woodson has taken over.

Absolutely no reason he can't keep this up on D. It's not like they're asking him to be Bruce Bowen.

That's the most frustrating thing with Carmelo Anthony. The "When he's trying...." thing. Just put the effort in on D, put the effort in to move the ball, put the effort in on the glass...

Now he's putting that effort in....and you're seeing the difference.

Of course it helps when he's draining 30 footers at the buzzer.

Consistency is his problem. That's a big one though. I don't know if he can do this for more than a half a season. I'd still call this the honeymoon stage for the Woodson Knicks... times are good, they haven't lost on their home court yet.

I'm gonna wait until things start settling down in NY before making my mind up about that team..

[Tmuston Beltics]

His weakness...
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[pauk]

Compared to who?

Compared to Lebron:
Court Vision
Passing Ability
Defense
Leadership
Decision making
Ballhandling / Ballsecurity
Driving/Finishing Ability
Consistancy
Versatility
Work Ethic
Efficiency
Rebounding
Athleticism
Injury Prone

Compared to Durant:
Efficiency
Rebounding
Consistancy
Work Ethic

[Draz]

melo has one good game? he's been doing great past few games.

[PJR]

Court Vision
Passing Ability
Defense
Leadership
Decision making
Ballhandling / Ballsecurity
Driving/Finishing Ability
Inconsistancy
Versatility
Work Ethic
Inefficiency


Quoted for emphasis.

[airchibundo507]

I'm a knick fan and love Melo in beast mode. I think you can say that when he's in the mood there are very few players, if any, you'd rather have on your team, especially in the clutch. But it has to be said that he has too glaring weaknesses:
1. Inconsistent defence
2. When things aren't going his way he quits and sulks

If he had no weaknesses he wouldn't have been so terrible before D'Antoni was fired. Tyson Chandler didn't sulk through that period he stood up and kept fighting.

yeah like when he is down 10 points with only three minutes left in the game :rolleyes:

or when both Billups and Amare are injured in the postseason and he is surrounded by scrubs playing an elite team in their house :rolleyes:

[airchibundo507]

you knicks fans are pieces of shit. all year long you've done nothing but trash this man, then your god lin goes down and suddenly Carmelo is perfect and has no weaknesses.

You are trash fans who treat your stars like shit, you dont deserve to have such a strong roster.

I've supported Carmelo since he came into the league. 9 games from a Dleaguer doesn't change sht

[Nelson14]

It helPs that Lin and amare were out

[TheBluest]

It helPs that Lin and amare were out


Knick fans told us that in order for the franchise to succeed they needed 2 MAX CATS to dethrone or trump the colluded trios:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Now it appears Lin/Amar'e/Melo can only get jiggy with it if they aren't on the floor at the same time.

So if they can't play together what was the point of making all of those moves sacrificing the future of the team until 2017?

The Knicks are nothing more than a Denver Nugget first round exist from the playoffs led by Melo. We've already seen this script folks. Melo was clutch in 2006-2008 then fell off a tad and is showing small signs of returning but even at Melo's best and trust we've seen the best of Melo this is going nowhere.

[Kingwillball]

Melo has been at TIMES AWFUL this year, now he has no weaknesses.. Next we will see a post he is the best player in the league.. :facepalm

[TheBluest]

Melo has been at TIMES AWFUL this year, now he has no weaknesses.. Next we will see a post he is the best player in the league.. :facepalm


Then G.O.A.T. GOD BLESS AND GOOD NIGHT

Knicks fans are the best at living off a moment or 3 and then milking it for times indefinite

[airchibundo507]

:coleman:

lol Dirk literally gets the ball iso in midpost every time he scores. Unless it's like a semi transition wide open three.

Melo runs through off ball screens, Melo scores in the post, Melo runs pick and roll as ballhandler and as screener, Melo shoots threes

Melo is the bigger mismatch. He has guarded Glen Davis, Boozer, West, J-Smooth and held us own against EACH of them. They are undersized I know, but Melo playing PF doesn't give up anything on defense and is probably the biggest mismatch in the playing that position.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEkTobMjpTc

0:04 = off ball screen
0:10 = open three in semi transition
0:20 = off ball screen
0:29 = MELO doesn't play defense? lmao
1:00 = open three (deng gives him too much room)
1:06 = Melo takes bailout shot in sweet spot
1:26 = ISO in sweet spot, abuses Deng and gets right to basket
1:34 = Bullies Deng in ISO
1:46 = Melo pick and roll, gets to bucket for AND-1, show me Dirk doing something like that
2:25 = Open jumper, uses the pump fake like a pro
2:32 = Melo pick and roll to generate wide open basket for teammate
2:45 = off ball screen opportunity, good defenses reverts it to ISO. Not FACE-UP ISO but guard DRIBBLE ISO on the perimeter, where he beats Deng and gets separation to wet jumpsphot over two defenders
2:58 = DRIBBLE ISO from the perimeter. Abuses Deng to basket and hits tough shot over multiple defenders
3:20 = ISO on the block; unguardable spin move
3:30 = DRIBBLE ISO on the perimeter. Abuses Gibson to get to basket and hit AND-1
4:02 = Heavily contested three pointer off the dribble (should have been AND-1)
5:30 = off ball screen, takes Noah to basket and uses his body to get separation
5:45 = heavily contested three pointer off the dribble (should have been AND-1)

See how is looks change throughout the game to adjust to the defense. First quarter ish was look created from off ball screens. 2nd and 3rd quarters were predominately iso. Late in the game he had to do much more creating off the dribble because Woodson benched all of our point guards out of frustration.

So essentially, Melo handles the ball like a guard and operates in the post like a skilled big man. Dirk can't do anything I've bolded. Especially against the best defense in basketball. That's SG stuff.

[airchibundo507]

Compared to who?

Compared to Lebron:
Court Vision
Passing Ability
Defense
Leadership
Decision making
Ballhandling / Ballsecurity
Driving/Finishing Ability
Consistancy
Versatility
Work Ethic
Efficiency
Rebounding
Athleticism
Injury Prone

Compared to Durant:
Efficiency
Rebounding
Consistancy
Work Ethic

No one is comparing him to LeBron. That's naive. My point is that Melo has no flaws in his game. He has been injured this year and that has taken its toll on his efficieny, as well as being improperly utilized by MDA which didn't allow him to develop a rhythm, but when he is at his best, he is a superstar bonafide top 10 player. He can do everything.

But I will say consistency is his only weakness.

[knickswin]

Melo has really good court vision. That's certainly not a weakness. He used to be a point guard when he was younger.

[Mr. Jabbar]

:biggums:


They were shipping him out 2 weeks ago now he has no weaknesses :oldlol:

[Bladers]

He is the most versatile scoring force in the league.

Wait do you actually believe the shit charles barkley says?

Its not true einstein, melo isn't close to being the most versatile scoring force in the league. Kobe has always been that since 2000. Melo hasn't even cracked 30ppg in his career yet. He has less than 3 50 pt game, a few 40 pt game here and there.

Hell no. He's not it.

Kobe has a better offensive skill and footwork BY FAR. its not even close. Melo absolutely has none, he uses bully ball to his admition.

Kobe has better handles and crossover

Kobe has the better outside shot.

Kobe has the better midrange shot.

Kobe has a fadeaway thats second to none.

Kobe has a turn around fadeaway thats second to none.

Kobe has a pull up jumper/fadeaway that's second to none.

Kobe has his patented baseline fallaway.

Dude its not even close. Kobe is better in the post, midrange and outside.
He uses skills to string his opposing players not muscle.

He's also better in transition by FAR.

Melo can't dunk to save his life.:oldlol:

He's also better with double teams and obviously the better passer.


Now about Melo's weakness:

1) Ball handles are shot.
2) He can't break his man off the dribble (he has to use bully ball as evident last night)
3) He cant utilize the pick and roll because his handles are not good, always loses it or looks like he loses the ball.
4) Misses all his off balanced jumpers.

5) he doesn't have any offensive skill besides bully ball, nor footwork.
6) He doesn't have any crossover

[airchibundo507]

You're right, Melo doesn't have a crossover and he is nowhere near a proficient at off-balanced jumpers. You are wrong about his handles. He has improved his game drastically in that department. Watch that the youtube link I just posted. It has all of Melo's buckets against the BEST DEFENSE in basketball. He had plenty of dribble drives in that game and most of them were without a screener.

Crossovers aren't a must-have for someone to get to the basket. Melo has a hesitation dribble that allows him to attack the basket using both hands.

Melo can't dunk? FOH with that nonsense. He's not going to do it in traffic because he's not about to injure himself, but he can definitely get up.

[airchibundo507]

:biggums:


They were shipping him out 2 weeks ago now he has no weaknesses :oldlol:

Nobody with a brain cell wanted him out. He is the franchise. We go as far as he takes us.

[Bladers]

You're right, Melo doesn't have a crossover and he is nowhere near a proficient at off-balanced jumpers. You are wrong about his handles. He has improved his game drastically in that department. Watch that the youtube link I just posted. It has all of Melo's buckets against the BEST DEFENSE in basketball. He had plenty of dribble drives in that game and most of them were without a screener.

Crossovers aren't a must-have for someone to get to the basket. Melo has a hesitation dribble that allows him to attack the basket using both hands.

Melo can't dunk? FOH with that nonsense. He's not going to do it in traffic because he's not about to injure himself, but he can definitely get up.

lol @ you kidding me? did you watch kobe in his prime? He shitted on everyone in traffic.

Are you watching durant now? he's shitting on people too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsjBV9kO2ls

Please I watch all the knicks game, I like Melo, He's one of my fav player.
But the thing I hate about him the most is that his atheletism is shot.

He cost lin about 20 assists ths season alone because he would butch fastbreak full court passes, which shump and fields easily jump and catch.

There is a reason he gets his shit eat every time near the rim, he's shooting 21% near the rim. that's absurd.

You posted video of bully drive. Yes he will take you off the dribble and drive.
But you're worried he's gonna dribble it off his feet or something.

Did you watch his pick and roll game from last night? can i say horrible?

Will get you video if i can.

Finally crossovers are very much needed. You need it to break your defender down. The thing is, Melo only has two options out in the perimeter.

1) Chuck up a three.
2) Put his head down and do a bully drive.


Why did you think he always get offensive fouls on that? He does it all the time.

He can't break down his own defender.

lastly he's fat and out of shape. But everyone has been saying it. He's not smooth. He's clunky.

[Bladers]

This is how you break down your defender and drive:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIqEO2HuUlE&t=3m1s

Melo needs to take note.

[LoneyROY7]

Bladers, not every thread has to be about Kobe.

[04mzwach]

Melo is a great player. I wish the Knicks would of shipped him so the fans could suffer for degrading his play earlier.

[fubu05]

To those people who wanna bring up Melo's season averages.. please stop. He's been injured a lot of the season, and hasn't been himself. The Knicks have also been one of the most up and down teams, with constant switching of rosters, and then until a while ago, switching of the Coach. Now with Woodson at the helm, things are finally starting to go right and everybody is settling in. The Knicks are looking like they have finally found their identity as of late and are now playing great basketball consistently.

From the last stretch of games, with no Lin, no STAT, Melo really does look the best he has his whole career and just a more complete player. At times he runs the offense from the beginning, at times he runs it from the post, at times he is a decoy at the 3pt line. Woodson is just doing what D'Antoni never would, he's catering to him, giving him his spots, and letting him go off.

For those of you that want to downplay one game, please remember, Melo netted 43 on the best defense in the league... that is pretty ****ing impressive.

I'm not ready to say "he has no weakness" but the way the Knicks are playing defense, and the way Melo has it going on offense, this TEAM can compete with the best of them on any given night, and a large part of it is due to Melo's ability offensively.

[chips93]

Melo has really good court vision. That's certainly not a weakness. He used to be a point guard when he was younger.

i used to be a pg when i was younger too

doesnt mean that i have nba level court vision

[Fiasco]

i used to be a pg when i was younger too

doesnt mean that i have nba level court vision

:roll:

[LABean]

lol My buddy airchibundo507 at it again. :applause:

:cheers:

[LA_Showtime]

He has a dumb, annoying douche bag on his ball sack. That's one. I guess you could include his questionable defense and inept leadership skills too. That's three.

[airchibundo507]

He has a dumb, annoying douche bag on his ball sack. That's one. I guess you could include his questionable defense and inept leadership skills too. That's three.

inept leadership skills? is that why he was a captain for team USA? is that why coach k specifically lauded his defense and leadership?

questionable defense? wtf are you talking about? do you watch knicks games? since woodson took over Melo has played defense non-stop. Non-stop.

get off my sack, btch. keep hating on melo but he is going to the top muddafcka

[airchibundo507]

lol My buddy airchibundo507 at it again. :applause:

:cheers:

troll.

[knickswin]

i used to be a pg when i was younger too

doesnt mean that i have nba level court vision

I was just saying. He does have good court vision though. This is why he's pretty good at handling the ball in the pick and roll. he's not nearly on a kobe/paul pierce level in terms of creating for others off the dribble, but in the pick and roll, post, and just in half court sets, he does really well. sometimes he makes these super impressive bullet passes into the post.

[creepingdeath]

So half a dozen good games rectify almost three months of sh*tty basketball?

[airchibundo507]

So half a dozen good games rectify almost three months of sh*tty basketball?

three months of sh*tty basketball in a condensed schedule overshadows an entire career?

[kingBynum]

NO WEAKNESS??? YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?






























http://www.geekologie.com/2009/06/05/doughnut%20day.jpg

[28renyoy]

He's not half the player that LeBron and Durant are, which is exactly who he will be measured up against.

[StateOfMind12]

Injury Prone
Inefficient
Lacks consistent effort and motivation

Those are all of Melo's weaknesses which are all major. In terms of skills and abilities, Melo doesn't many weaknesses but it is too bad skills and abilities is not all of basketball and not all to a player in basketball.

[28renyoy]

Injury Prone
Inefficient
Lacks consistent effort and motivation

Those are all of Melo's weaknesses which are all major. In terms of skills and abilities, Melo doesn't many weaknesses but it is too bad skills and abilities is not all of basketball and not all to a player in basketball.

He's also unathletic for his height relative to the way he plays. 6'7, overweight, with average athleticism is no way to play in the post which is why he gets his shot blocked so often.

[asu77golf]

not worth it

[Kiddlovesnets]

Hes a great scorer, but his weakness is that he is not able to distribute the ball. If you actually rely on him to play the same way as LBJ, Wade and T-Mac, you are screwed.

[Tlova]

three months of sh*tty basketball in a condensed schedule overshadows an entire career?
I swear knicks fans are bipolar. One minute they wana trade u next minute your better than jordan:facepalm

[OneBadUsername]

Come on guys he's obviously GOAT!!!

all jokes aside this archibundo guy needs to get off melos dick

[LABean]

I swear knicks fans are bipolar. One minute they wana trade u next minute your better than jordan:facepalm

If you're implying airchi wanted Melo gone, you're waaaaaaaaayyy off. :oldlol:

He is Carmelo Anthony's #1 fan. :hammerhead:

[nbacardDOTnet]

Compared to who?

Compared to Lebron:
Court Vision
Passing Ability
Defense
Leadership
Decision making
Ballhandling / Ballsecurity
Driving/Finishing Ability
Consistancy
Versatility
Work Ethic
Efficiency
Rebounding
Athleticism
Injury Prone

Compared to Durant:
Efficiency
Rebounding
Consistancy
Work Ethic

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Lebron%20James/0%20cant%20stop/8cbb5817.gif :lebroncry:

[Kurosawa0]

Melo's weakness? Consistency.

[LBJDW305]

Lol my god knick fans are so stupid and easy to troll !!!! They troll theselves! Listen to me you fat 40 year old virgin living in a basement...Carmelo sucks brah

[creepingdeath]

three months of sh*tty basketball in a condensed schedule overshadows an entire career?
No, they don't. Still, this is just another overreaction thread, only this time with a overly positive vibe. :lol

[LosBulls]

His weakness is that he can't seem to ever get in good shape.
1. He is in good shape, it's just his body that looks like hes a little chubby yet hes one of the strongest players in the league.
2.I bet hes in better shape than you.

[I<3NBA]

http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Hamburger2.jpg
glaring weakness right here.

[Mach_3]

1. He is in good shape, it's just his body that looks like hes a little chubby yet hes one of the strongest players in the league.
2.I bet hes in better shape than you.
Strength =/= being in good shape

[airchibundo507]

bump.

[nathanjizzle]

bump for melos 1 rebound vs loul dengs 5 rebounds.

[airchibundo507]

bump for melos 1 rebound vs loul dengs 5 rebounds.

what about Melo's 4 first half steals?

[DStebb716]

...wait, when did his defense become stellar? And when did he quit playing ISO ball 60% of the time?

His defense has been very good as of late

[ShaqAttack3234]

Well, his skill set doesn't really include a weakness.

He is in fact a good passer, and has been underrated in that regard for about 4-5 years now. His mid-range game is usually very good(numbers are down this year due to injuries). He can play defense when he wants to. Again, effort is the issue, not ability, he's been giving effort since Woodson took over, and I understand that you can't completely give him credit for that since he's shown his defense more in stretches than every night. Wouldn't call him a lockdown defender, or great, but capable.

He's been a very good rebounder for his position for years. He can shoot 3s, not just his phenomenal stretch after last season's trade, but also '08 when he shot 35% and '09 when he shot 37%. His percentage is down this year due to injuries, but he's healthy now, shooting very well and that percentage is rising.

His post game is phenomenal too, and it has been for years. Really, Kobe is the only perimeter player now or during Melo's era to rival him with his post game.

Granted, he has been somewhat injury prone and his effort hasn't always been there(certainly not late in the D'Antoni era), so you can call those weaknesses, but there's nothing he can't do on a basketball court.

I can't currently call him better than Durant with his more consistent health and effort as well as his improvements this season, and certainly not Lebron.

But Melo is every bit as skilled and talented as Durant, if not more.

[airchibundo507]

anyone see that pass to Chandler off the pick and roll?

point forward

[airchibundo507]

Well, his skill set doesn't really include a weakness.

He is in fact a good passer, and has been underrated in that regard for about 4-5 years now. His mid-range game is usually very good(numbers are down this year due to injuries). He can play defense when he wants to. Again, effort is the issue, not ability, he's been giving effort since Woodson took over, and I understand that you can't completely give him credit for that since he's shown his defense more in stretches than every night. Wouldn't call him a lockdown defender, or great, but capable.

He's been a very good rebounder for his position for years. He can shoot 3s, not just his phenomenal stretch after last season's trade, but also '08 when he shot 35% and '09 when he shot 37%. His percentage is down this year due to injuries, but he's healthy now, shooting very well and that percentage is rising.

His post game is phenomenal too, and it has been for years. Really, Kobe is the only perimeter player now or during Melo's era to rival him with his post game.

Granted, he has been somewhat injury prone and his effort hasn't always been there(certainly not late in the D'Antoni era), so you can call those weaknesses, but there's nothing he can't do on a basketball court.

I can't currently call him better than Durant with his more consistent health and effort as well as his improvements this season, and certainly not Lebron.

But Melo is every bit as skilled and talented as Durant, if not more.

great post as usual

[gtfomyface]

anyone see that pass to Chandler off the pick and roll?

point forward

:facepalm
1 play does not make you a capable point forward
did u see gasol's multiple lobs to bynum !! pointforward!!!

[airchibundo507]

Carmelo has no weaknesses.

[airchibundo507]

Carmelo has no weaknesses.

[miggyme1]

Carmelo has no weaknesses.
Im a big melo fan myself.lol but yea melo is finally starting to becomr a better all around player.i would love to see him average 25 ppg 7 apg 10rpg next season.he has the talent to do so

[jb220]

Im a big melo fan myself.lol but yea melo is finally starting to becomr a better all around player.i would love to see him average 25 ppg 7 apg 10rpg next season.he has the talent to do so
Never ever happening. I dig Melo but he won't average double digit assists in his career. I think if the Knicks let him take over the franchise and play his game I think he could average 27/6/5 on 48% fg and 35+% from 3.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

All the way baybeeeeeee!!! The Knicks are gonna take it this year!!!! Derp

[miggyme1]

Never ever happening. I dig Melo but he won't average double digit assists in his career. I think if the Knicks let him take over the franchise and play his game I think he could average 27/6/5 on 48% fg and 35+% from 3.
I dont have him Averagin double digit assists i had rebounds.

[airchibundo507]

carmelo is not a leader: myth


Al Iannazzone:

Steve Novak had career-high 25 points. He hit 8 threes, including 2 late to put game away. Anthony assisted on both; Novak credited Melo for helping his confidence. "I know when I’m in there I got to knock down shots," he said. "When I pass up shots, Melo tells me you can’t do that. You’re not going to get a better look. If you get an open look don’t pass it up. To have your team leader say that to you just gives your more confidence and I think it makes us better when we’re thinking like that."