Rose just ether Bayless

[game3524]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RjirSPGjJw&feature=player_embedded

:roll:

[kentatm]

better quality video at this link

http://www.sportsgrid.com/media/jalen-rose-skip-bayless-high-school/


Skip looks like he just had his pride stuck into a wood chipper :applause:

http://nighthawknews.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/fargo1.jpg

[bmulls]

That was low blow, irrelevant to the discussion, and highly unprofessional.

But funny as fck because it's Skip Bayless :roll:

[guy]

:oldlol: wow.

[DMV2]

Goddamn! Skip was about to cry. :oldlol:

[Dengness9]

**** Skip Bayless


Always talking shit about D-Rose and other players he trolls on.

Him saying the Knicks were going to the ECF was a joke as well.

This guy literally has to wake up everyday and troll to have a career. Its done him well financially but does anyone actually like this dude?

[LBJDW305]

Lol his run as a troll is done...

[guy]

That was low blow, irrelevant to the discussion, and highly unprofessional.

But funny as fck because it's Skip Bayless :roll:

Not really when you consider how Skip comes across as someone that thinks he knows everything, never admits when he's wrong, highly exaggerates alot of things, and delivers numerous low blows to people on that show.

And I'm not trying to hate on Skip. I think he's entertaining as hell and makes some really good arguments and I actually overall agree with him on his stance on Westbrook, although I think he exaggerates some of his points and plays down just how good Westbrook is. But he comes across like a jack*ss alot and as a result, the line is placed alot further on that show then it usually would be.

[LamarOdom]

Knockout b!tch.

[Kingwillball]

SKip deserves it so cant say I feel bad..

[Kingwillball]

Not really when you consider how Skip comes across as someone that thinks he knows everything, never admits when he's wrong, highly exaggerates alot of things, and delivers numerous low blows to people on that show.

And I'm not trying to hate on Skip. I think he's entertaining as hell and makes some really good arguments and I actually overall agree with him on his stance on Westbrook, although I think he exaggerates some of his points and plays down just how good Westbrook is. But he comes across like a jack*ss alot and as a result, the line is placed alot further on that show then it usually would be.


His Hate for Lebron is what really makes me not like him that much..

[Rockets(T-mac)]

:roll: His face when that came up was golden.

[sbw19]

That was low blow, irrelevant to the discussion, and highly unprofessional.

But funny as fck because it's Skip Bayless :roll:
Agreed. No need to confront him when it was obvious he was making up that shit for 'entertainment reasons' lol.

[dunksby]

Anybody took notice of the caption?
Bayless: "I believe Russel Westbrook is MVP" " :lol

[guy]

Wow I just looked on ESPN.com and tried to look at the video "Is Westbrook worthy of MVP consideration?" which it looks like was the topic where Rose called out Skip and it says "VIDEO NO LONGER AVAILABLE". I lost respect for Skip when he basically acted like his heart was broken when Durant called him out, but this is even worse. Classic case of a hypocrite that can dish it but can't take it.

[alwaysunny]

http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad76/tobaccoroad1/skip.jpg

[AAckley1]

Skip Bayless needs to go back to snitching on football players. What he said after Jalen exposed him is evidence he knows very little about basketball. Elite HS perimeter players handle the ball. Jalen isn't a PG & never was. He essentially had no position at the HS level, which is what I think Jalen was trying to say.

[midatlantic09]

I was expecting this to be about D Rose and Jerryd Bayless.

[KRAYZIE]

Priceless reaction.:oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

Water Pistol Pete... JR

http://www.gifflix.com/files/a4aae5d75c73.gif

[boojitede]

someone break it down for people at work

[ImmortalNemesis]

:roll: :roll:

Water pistol pete jnr.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Jalen Rose doing what everybody who knows there losing an argument does, he brings up something completely irrelevant to the topic at hand because hes butt hurt.

So corny Jalen. Basketball players think noone can know more about the game than themselves. Well if players are the only ones who can understand the game why are their GMs making decisions, scouting guys, building a team? Why are their coaches implementing complex offensive philosophies or drawing up plays? Stupid ass players man

[IGOTGAME]

Jalen Rose doing what everybody who knows there losing an argument does, he brings up something completely irrelevant to the topic at hand because hes butt hurt.

So corny Jalen. Basketball players think noone can know more about the game than themselves. Well if players are the only ones who can understand the game why are their GMs making decisions, scouting guys, building a team? Why are their coaches implementing scientific offensive philosophies or drawing up plays? Stupid ass players man
scientific offensive principals? Lol, guess that is one way to describe them.

who are all these GMs and players who never played at ALL. Most have some experience from high school or college.

I didn't see the whole argument but Skip acts like an ass. He had this coming.

[Lebron23]

Rose owned Bayless.


Are you kidding me? Watch the debate he has with Cris Carter over Tebow.

He asks Carter "HOW MANY RINGS DO YOU HAVE?!" in the middle of the argument. And called Chris Bosh Bosh Spice to his face and told him he wasn't going to stop calling him that even when Bosh said he thought it was an insult to his family and their name. Total disrespect. If Skip wants to take cheapshots at everyone else, he better be ready to eat some himself. Especially when he brags about his "illustrious" HS career.

Love this youtube comment. Skip is a 60 yrs.old douche bag. Grow up Old man!!!

[ClutchOver9000]

holy shit. Ethered indeed... :lol :roll: :lol

he did not just call dude water pistol pete jr :biggums: :roll: :lol :roll: :lol :roll:

[NewYorkNoPicks]

scientific offensive principals? Lol, guess that is one way to describe them.

who are all these GMs and players who never played at ALL. Most have some experience from high school or college.

I didn't see the whole argument but Skip acts like an ass. He had this coming.

Yeah scientific was probably not the best chloce of words, complex fits better. Think of the triangle offense for instance its a pretty difficult concept to master and its a really intelligent well thought out philosophy.

But anyway so GMs who never played ball: Donnie Walsh, Glen Grunwald, RC Buford, Sam Presti, etc etc theres a lot. Same goes for coaches: Jeff Van Gundy, Stan Van Gundy, Scott Brocks, Lawrence Frank, Greg Popovich, Tom Thibodeau, etc. Plenty of brilliant minds out there who have not physically participated in their field

[Lebron23]

Yeah scientific was probably not the best chloce of words, complex fits better. Think of the triangle offense for instance its a pretty difficult concept to master and its a really intelligent well thought out philosophy.

But anyway so GMs who never played ball: Donnie Walsh, Glen Grunwald, RC Buford, Sam Presti, etc etc theres a lot. Same goes for coaches: Jeff Van Gundy, Stan Van Gundy, Scott Brocks, Lawrence Frank, Greg Popovich, Tom Thibodeau, etc. Plenty of brilliant minds out there who have not physically participated in their field


You are not one of them.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

You are not one of them.

To paraphrase something your boy LeBron once said: doesnt really matter to me what you think, you still have to wake up tomorrow living the same shitty life you had the day before

[guy]

Jalen Rose doing what everybody who knows there losing an argument does, he brings up something completely irrelevant to the topic at hand because hes butt hurt.

So corny Jalen. Basketball players think noone can know more about the game than themselves. Well if players are the only ones who can understand the game why are their GMs making decisions, scouting guys, building a team? Why are their coaches implementing complex offensive philosophies or drawing up plays? Stupid ass players man

He wasn't really losing the argument though? I think he brought it up cause clearly he was annoyed as was everyone on the table about Skip sarcastically saying Westbrook was MVP and not being genuine about his argument.

And like I said. Skip has thrown cheapshots to pretty much everyone on there.

[IGOTGAME]

Yeah scientific was probably not the best chloce of words, complex fits better. Think of the triangle offense for instance its a pretty difficult concept to master and its a really intelligent well thought out philosophy.

But anyway so GMs who never played ball: Donnie Walsh, Glen Grunwald, RC Buford, Sam Presti, etc etc theres a lot. Same goes for coaches: Jeff Van Gundy, Stan Van Gundy, Scott Brocks, Lawrence Frank, Greg Popovich, Tom Thibodeau, etc. Plenty of brilliant minds out there who have not physically participated in their field
I'm not gonna checks your list. But many on there are incorrect. Many played at least high school or small college.

actually, almost everyone is incorrect.

[Lebron23]

To paraphrase something your boy LeBron once said: doesnt really matter to me what you think, you still have to wake up tomorrow living the same shitty life you had the day before


I have more money than you. Get a life @$$hole. You are one of the dumbest and most annoying @$$ clowns in this forum.

[colorz]

I have more money than you. Get a life @$$hole. You are one of the dumbest and most annoying @$$ clowns in this forum.

:wtf:

:roll:

[NewYorkNoPicks]

I'm not gonna checks your list. But many on there are incorrect. Many played at least high school or small college.

Yeah were talking about playing professionally... Anyone can play high school ball. Jalen, Bruce Bowen and Durant have all been implying that if you never played in the NBA theres no eay you could possibly have a deep understanding of the game. They constantly use that as their reasoning for not listening to Skip and other analysts

[IGOTGAME]

Yeah were talking about playing professionally... Anyone can play high school ball. Jalen, Bruce Bowen and Durant have all been implying that if you never played in the NBA theres no eay you could possibly have a deep understanding of the game. They constantly use that as their reasoning for not listening to Skip and other analysts
most there played college ball. NBA players respect college guys.

I don't think they are implying that. They implying that if you have never played or coached at a high level than you prob don't have a deep understanding of the game. Usually this is true.

many of the guys you listed were D1 shall players...other small college do to their limitations. Skip was the worst guy on a bball team who felt the need to lie.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

I have more money than you. Get a life @$$hole. You are one of the dumbest and most annoying @$$ clowns in this forum.

Really doubt it. But im not going to start bragging in an online forum, nothing can be verified anyway without giving up too much information. But based on the numbers, the odds are in my favor that im living a better life than you.

[guy]

Yeah were talking about playing professionally... Anyone can play high school ball. Jalen, Bruce Bowen and Durant have all been implying that if you never played in the NBA theres no eay you could possibly have a deep understanding of the game. They constantly use that as their reasoning for not listening to Skip and other analysts

They've never implied that. They've implied that there are certain things people don't understand from the outside looking in not that they don't have a deep understanding.

And by the way, Bruce Bowen has brought this up in response to Skip's assertion that people shouldn't criticize him for his opinions even though he never played cause some of the best GMs never played: Those GMs have been part of the game and have learned and proven enough to get to the point that they could get to that position. Skip basically tries to put himself in the same pool as all these non-playing GMs as if he's just as knowledgeable as someone like RC Buford, Sam Presti, etc. And thats not the same thing .

[Vienceslav]

Wow , he took his soul with this one.
It

[Lebron23]

Really doubt it. But im not going to start bragging in an online forum, nothing can be verified anyway without giving up too much information. But based on the numbers, the odds are in my favor that im living a better life than you.


You currently live in a dumpster.http://akiwood.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/HomelessDumpster.jpg.

[stephanieg]

I don't understand the relevence of Skip averaging 1ppg in HS or whatever.

[Lebron23]

I don't understand the relevence of Skip averaging 1ppg in HS or whatever.


It's actually 1.4 ppg.

[guy]

[QUOTE=Vienceslav]Wow , he took his soul with this one.
It

[NewYorkNoPicks]

You currently live in a dumpster.http://akiwood.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/HomelessDumpster.jpg.

K. Its like if you call someone gay for instance, a person who is secure and knows he himself is not gay wont get offended. However the accused who knows he has something to hide will overcompensate and usually get livid as his mind races for a defense.

Guess you're broke dude :-\

[Lebron23]

K. Its like if you call someone gay for instance, a person who is secure and knows he himself is not gay wont get offended. However the accused who knows he has something to hide will overcompensate and usually get livid as his mind races for a defense.

Guess you're broke dude :-\


huh???

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/06/ackbayless.jpg

[swi7ch]

Rose is just jelly 'cos he ain't Maravich.

[mattvNJ]

lol even his wiki calls him out...(not sure if posted didn't read all posts)

"Lied about being star "shoot first" point guard on his 1970 High School basketball team. He averaged 1.4 points per game for a total of 21 points in 15 games.[2] He is also a notorious University of Kentucky hater, and constantly degrades members of the Wildcats men's basketball team. [3]"

"Bayless graduated from Northwest Classen High School where he averaged 1.4 points per game during his senior year in basketball (Lost Ogle)"

hahahah cheap shot but well deserved

[Lebron23]

lol even his wiki calls him out...(not sure if posted didn't read all posts)

"Lied about being star "shoot first" point guard on his 1970 High School basketball team. He averaged 1.4 points per game for a total of 21 points in 15 games.[2] He is also a notorious University of Kentucky hater, and constantly degrades members of the Wildcats men's basketball team. [3]"

"Bayless graduated from Northwest Classen High School where he averaged 1.4 points per game during his senior year in basketball (Lost Ogle)"

hahahah cheap shot but well deserved


:roll: :roll: :oldlol: :oldlol: :lol :lol :oldlol:

[Rake2204]

I cannot believe Skip Bayless ever became this prominent.

Shows he participates in, and others of similar ilk, make me want to vomit.

[zizozain]

I have more money than you. Get a life @$$hole. You are one of the dumbest and most annoying @$$ clowns in this forum.
:roll: :roll:

[flipogb]

eh the delivery was bad, he looked like a bully there instead of a clever person

[guy]

eh the delivery was bad, he looked like a bully there instead of a clever person

Not sure if you watch the show, but I think most people that do know the general feeling of the show that Skip is mostly responsibly for, and will agree that that was completely in bounds and appropriate.

[GOBB]

eh the delivery was bad, he looked like a bully there instead of a clever person

:roll: Bully? You obviously have little knowledge of Skip Bayless on the show, in general and even in regards to Jalen Rose. He's gone at Jalen Rose like this before.

[KingBeasley08]

OH GAWD :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


:bowdown: :bowdown:

[eazyduzzit10]

Jalen Rose da Gawd!

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ClutchOver9000]

did Skip really take down that segment on the First Take website...I can't find it... :lol

[keepinitreal]

That was low blow, irrelevant to the discussion, and highly unprofessional.

But funny as fck because it's Skip Bayless :roll:

It was pretty irrelevant to the discussion if you take a logical point of view. However, this is the way a lot of sports discussions are argued (especially with Skip). "I played point guard, you didn't, therefore I know more about it (and all things pertaining to it) than you."

[Jotaro Durant]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: my nikka jalen going in:applause:

[CelticBaller]

lol even his wiki calls him out...(not sure if posted didn't read all posts)

"Lied about being star "shoot first" point guard on his 1970 High School basketball team. He averaged 1.4 points per game for a total of 21 points in 15 games.[2] He is also a notorious University of Kentucky hater, and constantly degrades members of the Wildcats men's basketball team. [3]"

"Bayless graduated from Northwest Classen High School where he averaged 1.4 points per game during his senior year in basketball (Lost Ogle)"

hahahah cheap shot but well deserved
that shit makes you soul burn slow :oldlol:

[tazb]

Thats ma dude ROSE! Putting the nail in this trolls coffin. All he does is take cheap personal shots at professionals, hows it feel it get it back at ya face scrub.

I wonder how many NBA players texted Rose after this and gave daps.

[guy]

did Skip really take down that segment on the First Take website...I can't find it... :lol

Yes they did. It's on the podcast though.

[LockoutOver11]

holy crap...

water pistol pete jr.... thats cold blooded....

[TylerOO]

I don't think we will be seeing jalen on first take for a while now :lol:

[L.Kizzle]

"Water Pistol" Pete Jr.

:pimp:

[imdaman99]

whats his beef with westbrook? i dont listen/watch him enough to understand. i know he cant stand lebron either.

ALL SKIP BAYLESS HATE TEAM

PG westbrook
SG
SF lebron
PF
C

[LockoutOver11]

whats his beef with westbrook? i dont listen/watch him enough to understand. i know he cant stand lebron either.

ALL SKIP BAYLESS HATE TEAM

PG westbrook
SG
SF lebron
PF
C DWIGHT


Rightfully so, they soft *******...

[guy]

whats his beef with westbrook? i dont listen/watch him enough to understand. i know he cant stand lebron either.

ALL SKIP BAYLESS HATE TEAM

PG westbrook
SG
SF lebron
PF
C

Westbrook is a SG according to him so:

PG Rose
SG Westbrook
SF Lebron
PF Griffin
C Howard

[Tenchi Ryu]

Oh god...Now Stephen has joined in, its getting so uncomfortable. Rose clearly looks uncomfortable.

[guy]

Oh god...Now Stephen has joined in, its getting so uncomfortable. Rose clearly looks uncomfortable.

what happened?

[Tenchi Ryu]

what happened?
ESPN First take is on right now, and now Stephen is talking about how it should be ok to criticize players on national tv. Rose was looking uncomfortable and didn't agree, this somehow all stemmed from Bayless's statement.

[GOBB]

I'm watching...this is choas. :roll:

[UtahJazzFan88]

Rose vs Bayless yesterday, now Round 2 featuring Jalen Rose vs. Stephen A Smith. :roll:

[mjokc]

stephen a smith needs to hop off of skip's nuts.

[GOBB]

stephen a smith needs to hop off of skip's nuts.

He's not on Skip's nuts. What are you talkin about? He disagrees with Jalen Rose point. And so far Jalen is struggling to defend his point.

He said you cant call Kwame Brown a scrub because he's in the NBA. SAS and Skip are saying relative to his peers Kwame is a scrub. And Kwame hasnt improved his game for years so he opens himself up to be called a scrub. He's only in the NBA because of his size. He also asked Jalen Rose are there any scrubs in the NBA, Rose argument is no because there are only 430 people allowed to play in the NBA so they arent scrubs. SAS calls balloney. Brian Scalabrine isnt a scrub because he's on a roster for a reason outside of his playing.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Rose is getting chewed up, you can't win against Smith in these kinds of conversations :lol :lol

[guy]

ESPN First take is on right now, and now Stephen is talking about how it should be ok to criticize players on national tv. Rose was looking uncomfortable and didn't agree, this somehow all stemmed from Bayless's statement.

I've never heard any former player or even current player say it wasn't okay to criticize players on national TV. There argument seems to be that people like Skip that have never been part of the game aren't able to grasp some of the nuances of the game that are only obtained through the experience so they go overboard on it sometimes. And it Skip's case, he can't admit when he's wrong and always tries to frame his argument in a way that excuses him.

[heyhey]

He's not on Skip's nuts. What are you talkin about? He disagrees with Jalen Rose point. And so far Jalen is struggling to defend his point.

He said you cant call Kwame Brown a scrub because he's in the NBA. SAS and Skip are saying relative to his peers Kwame is a scrub. And Kwame hasnt improved his game for years so he opens himself up to be called a scrub. He's only in the NBA because of his size. He also asked Jalen Rose are there any scrubs in the NBA, Rose argument is no because there are only 430 people allowed to play in the NBA so they arent scrubs. SAS calls balloney. Brian Scalabrine isnt a scrub because he's on a roster for a reason outside of his playing.


Sas makes good point it's obvious that everyone in the nba is great player, for their position, compared to average population. It would be silly to make that disclaimer every time you talk about a nba player, when people say scrub it's definitely relative to other players in nba

[Clocian-IGN]

they going hard today

[guy]

He's not on Skip's nuts. What are you talkin about? He disagrees with Jalen Rose point. And so far Jalen is struggling to defend his point.

He said you cant call Kwame Brown a scrub because he's in the NBA. SAS and Skip are saying relative to his peers Kwame is a scrub. And Kwame hasnt improved his game for years so he opens himself up to be called a scrub. He's only in the NBA because of his size. He also asked Jalen Rose are there any scrubs in the NBA, Rose argument is no because there are only 430 people allowed to play in the NBA so they arent scrubs. SAS calls balloney. Brian Scalabrine isnt a scrub because he's on a roster for a reason outside of his playing.

Well if thats Jalen's point, then he's definitely wrong.

[LockoutOver11]

wow.

[Bladers]

This better be on Utube.

Epic right now. They went like 20 mins straight going at each other without commercials. :oldlol:

[DMAVS41]

Did Skip ever say anything about making up that shit about his high school play?

[Tenchi Ryu]

Did Skip ever say anything about making up that shit about his high school play?
Nope, he talked about how he didn't get his moment to shine cause the coach's son came and stole his "shine"....that's how this ALL started :oldlol:

[Bladers]

Did Skip ever say anything about making up that shit about his high school play?

He didn't make it up. He clarified on it and talked about his HS career. If a vid is posted you will see it.

[Bladers]

Nope, he talked about how he didn't get his moment to shine cause the coach's son came and stole his "shine"....that's how this ALL started :oldlol:

He didn't make it up that's the point.

[heyhey]

Nope, he talked about how he didn't get his moment to shine cause the coach's son came and stole his "shine"....that's how this ALL started :oldlol:


:oldlol: oh lord I can see it now

Espn 30 for 30: the skipping of skip bayless

[juju151111]

They going freaking ham

[Tenchi Ryu]

This better be on Utube.

Epic right now. They went like 20 mins straight going at each other without commercials. :oldlol:
They better youtube the fukk outta this one

[Bladers]

Rose is getting owned right now. He looks like he about to cry.

[Bballfinest]

one of the best 1st 10 I seen in a while :bowdown:

[Tenchi Ryu]

Damn, the way they keep the camera on rose the ENTIRE time, so damn awkward....You can see how he looks uneasy at times

[UtahJazzFan88]

Someone's going to unravel eventually. :lol :bowdown:

[juju151111]

Lol skip tight he got owned yesterday.

[barnett114]

**** Skip a Stephen A.

[GOBB]

Jalen did make good points in that SAS/Skip take it too far going personal with players. Name calling, attacking character. And Jalen point yesterday was to attack Skip and make it personal so Skip can see how it feels to the players he daily attacks. And how Skip feels is how other guys may feel but Skip doesnt care/nor take it into consideration. But when the shoe is on the other foot? You cant cry, cant you?

Skip right now is crying. :oldlol:

[Bladers]

Omgosh I Can't Believe My Cable Just Went Off. Wtf?!!!!

This Better Be On Youtube Now!!!!!!!!!!11

[juju151111]

Lol this shit funny. They all mad has hell.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Jalen did make good points in that SAS/Skip take it too far going personal with players. Name calling, attacking character. And Jalen point yesterday was to attack Skip and make it personal so Skip can see how it feels to the players he daily attacks. And how Skip feels is how other guys may feel but Skip doesnt care/nor take it into consideration. But when the shoe is on the other foot? You cant cry, cant you?

Skip right now is crying. :oldlol:
Agree. We are just simple posters on a basketball forum, but when you have the power of free speech on national television, you have a lot more limitations of whats over the line.

[Clocian-IGN]

THIS is a debate. the usual 1st take is simply trolling at its finest

[GOBB]

Did Skip ever say anything about making up that shit about his high school play?

Yes he blamed the coach. Said he wasnt put in the position to excel and forced to do something he wasnt accustomed too. He was a SG being asked to play PG and it didnt work, he clashed with the coach so he was in the dog house.

[guy]

Jalen did make good points in that SAS/Skip take it too far going personal with players. Name calling, attacking character. And Jalen point yesterday was to attack Skip and make it personal so Skip can see how it feels to the players he daily attacks. And how Skip feels is how other guys may feel but Skip doesnt care/nor take it into consideration. But when the shoe is on the other foot? You cant cry, cant you?

Skip right now is crying. :oldlol:

He's not literally crying is he? Please tell me he is. :oldlol: Damn I can't wait to see this. Wish I had a TV at work.

[juju151111]

Yes he blamed the coach. Said he wasnt put in the position to excel and forced to do something he wasnt accustomed too. He was a SG being asked to play PG and it didnt work, he clashed with the coach so he was in the dog house.
Skip full of shit

[Bladers]

Skip full of shit

Actually his tweets backs him up.

[Bladers]

I missed like 7 mins. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHhh

[NumberSix]

Actually his tweets backs him up.
Bladers short white guy

[barnett114]

Actually his tweets backs him up.

You saying that same bullshit on RealGM.

[juju151111]

Actually his tweets backs him up.
He was pretending like he was a big part of their chip in high school. He was being vague to make him seem he was a similar PG to Westbrook but he got bench and avged 1.4 pts. He butthurt, but he does this to players everyday.

[LockoutOver11]

Only thing I really don't like is... bosh spice.

Bosh said its out of line, and it was attacking his last name, and that his family is proud.

The best point they've brought up is the name calling, bullying thing... not slander cause that a legal term....

The rest is just a player's mentality vs media mentality.

Players know reporters can't play like they can, so they can't judge... but when they retire they would love to be in their shoes but are usually not as educated as the ones who originally had that position...

I really don't like Bosh Spice... i keep thinking about that lol...

[Tenchi Ryu]

Damn, Rose shut Skip up

[Tmuston Beltics]

Did you see the look on Rose's face after he said that.. He was like oh yeah I got him :D

[GOBB]

He's not literally crying is he? Please tell me he is. :oldlol: Damn I can't wait to see this. Wish I had a TV at work.

My bad, not literally. He's real emotional tho when he talks about what Rose did

[Tenchi Ryu]

Rose making hella sense right now.

[UtahJazzFan88]

lol cris carter on now

[LockoutOver11]

lol cris carter on now

the big gunsss

[guy]

Bosh said its out of line, and it was attacking his last name, and that his family is proud.


The worse part about that is even after Bosh said that and asked him peacefully to stop saying that, Skip said he wouldn't stop unless Bosh played better. That's cold.

I like Skip for the most part. Some of the ways he makes his arguments aren't right, but he's entertaining and makes some good points. But he shouldn't get sensitive over people calling him out. Makes him look like a huge hypocrite.

[GOBB]

Only thing I really don't like is... bosh spice.

Bosh said its out of line, and it was attacking his last name, and that his family is proud.

And yet when Bosh said that? Skip said he would still call him that name if he feels its appropriate. And thats Jalen Rose point. Why is it you can cross a line and feel justified in it but when its done to you? Cry uncle.

[barnett114]

Skip ass a bitch.

[Tenchi Ryu]

This shit is turning into some Dr Phil shit...

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

:biggums:

This is fukkin quality tv right here
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[juju151111]

This shit is turning into some Dr Phil shit...

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

:biggums:

This is fukkin quality tv right here
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
:bowdown:

[guy]

I haven't seen whats going on, but my guess is Rose isn't going to be on this show anymore. Not sure if anyone noticed, but the video where Rose blurted that out yesterday was taken off ESPN.com. Its on the podcast though. Clearly they're trying to protect Skip's credibility.

[Tenchi Ryu]

I haven't seen whats going on, but my guess is Rose isn't going to be on this show anymore. Not sure if anyone noticed, but the video where Rose blurted that out yesterday was taken off ESPN.com. Its on the podcast though. Clearly they're trying to protect Skip's credibility.
Damn shame too, cause the ratings are hot right now, trending on twitter and everything. This is ESPN at their best, no bullshit, real debating.

[LockoutOver11]

Damn shame too, cause the ratings are hot right now, trending on twitter and everything. This is ESPN at their best, no bullshit, real debating.

im so glad i havent heard tebow and the jets for a whole hour on this show.. lol

[Bladers]

He was pretending like he was a big part of their chip in high school. He was being vague to make him seem he was a similar PG to Westbrook but he got bench and avged 1.4 pts. He butthurt, but he does this to players everyday.

in his senior year yes he was benched. (affected his stats)
But in his junior year he lead his JV team to the championship. Its documented on the newspaper aswell.

[barnett114]

in his senior year yes he was benched. (affected his stats)
But in his junior year he lead his JV team to the championship. Its documented on the newspaper aswell.

:coleman:

[T-Time3]

oh my goodness, this made my day
ROFL

[Tenchi Ryu]

Aw shit, they bringing in the Moss situation.

Lets air out every damn thing this morning :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[barnett114]

Stephen A is butthurt.

[GOBB]

SAS getting pissed because this is the first time he cant get a word in. :roll:

Its awesome. You can even seem his face. He's mad, rolling eyes, frustrated. Jalen keeps talkin over him. Priceless

[Tenchi Ryu]

Stephen A is butthurt.
Oh yea he mad, didn't like that comment at all
:lol :lol :lol

[UtahJazzFan88]

SAS getting pissed because this is the first time he cant get a word in. :roll:

Its awesome. You can even seem his face. He's mad, rolling eyes, frustrated.

Yep. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Tenchi Ryu]

SAS getting pissed because this is the first time he cant get a word in. :roll:

Its awesome. You can even seem his face. He's mad, rolling eyes, frustrated.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
I love that they keep cameras on them

[barnett114]

Stephen A says he done.

rofl

[Whoah10115]

Awkward.


Bayless is phony and tries too hard to divert emotions.





Rome did this with Jim Everett and kept calling him Chris Everett (the female tennis player). He was doing that before the interview and Jim Everett said he would confront him and asked him to stop. Rome refused. Everett warned him. Rome has no respect, no testicles. Everett flipped the table on him.



Somebody should do that to Bayless...tho he's not anywhere near as bad as Rome. Rome is a bad human in every possible way.

[Bladers]

LOL @ rose keep interruppting Stephen Beast Smith.
Don't want to hear none of that ether. :rofl:

[Clocian-IGN]

this HAS to be on youtube. this shit is actually elevating minds instead the constant trolling. 1st take never was and will never be as great as the last hour or so.

[LockoutOver11]

should i rewind the last five minutes i tuned out right after the randy moss discussion...

[NumberSix]

in his senior year yes he was benched. (affected his stats)
But in his junior year he lead his JV team to the championship. Its documented on the newspaper aswell.
Skiptard? :confusedshrug:

[Tenchi Ryu]

should i rewind the last five minutes i tuned out right after the randy moss discussion...
If you want to see a forcibly silenced Smith pissed off.

[LockoutOver11]

If you want to see a forcibly silenced Smith pissed off.

why tho... what was the topic. or did he average 1.4 points his senior year too?

[barnett114]

Jalen Rose for the win.

[Bladers]

Skiptard? :confusedshrug:

Brucetard?

[Bladers]

Jalen Rose for the win.

He got beasted son.

[Tenchi Ryu]

why tho... what was the topic. or did he average 1.4 points his senior year too?
Nothing, he just doesn't like being unable to talk, and seeing him pissed was classic.
:lol :lol :lol

[JM720]

Stephen A Coon getting upset again in the last segment.

The point was journalist are now being louder and more outlandish for the sake of standing out or becoming stars themselves, cause there are so many outlets now. These types are not helping the public. Had nothing to do with great journalist that did their jobs, and great writers that died.

[Tenchi Ryu]

He got beasted son.
Smith was killing him at first, but then he trumped Skip, hard.

[GOBB]

Skip "Ive had some near death experiences"

When? Troy Aikman was in the same hotel as you? :lol


why tho... what was the topic. or did he average 1.4 points his senior year too?

Because everyone dominated the convo then when SAS finally gets a turn to talk and address Rose? Rose talked over SAS so you couldnt hear SAS. And SAS just said "I'm done.".

[barnett114]

He got beasted son.

Um, no.

[Whoah10115]

I'd love to know how the line was crossed with asking about his high school PPG.



Bayless was the one who brought it up and made it up. No one ever knew anything about that. He took his business and put it out there as a lie, in order to give himself some credibility. But that was a cheap shot?



Come on.

[UtahJazzFan88]

SAS getting bored as hell by Skip's talking. :lol :sleeping

[GOBB]

We need a SAS .gif or smiley face :roll:

[game3524]

Jalen Rose just ended Skip Bayless trolling career.:oldlol:

[Tenchi Ryu]

Really smith? Really?!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[NumberSix]

People should seriously start calling him "prince Skip"

[GOBB]

SAS getting bored as hell by Skip's talking. :lol :sleeping

I want a .gif of that lil eyebrow and chuckle he did. That is better than this smiley face :rolleyes: or this :facepalm

:bowdown:

[Clocian-IGN]

these constant commercial breaks are killing the damn debate....

[Tenchi Ryu]

these constant commercial breaks are killing the damn debate....
They got to, they went like 20 mins straight with no commercial :lol :lol

[DKLaker]

these constant commercial breaks are killing the damn debate....

I know!!!!

this is some of the best sh!t ever!!!!!!!

[Bladers]

Um, no.
Rose is looking like an idiot out there. He has flip flop like 100000000000 times on his argument, and keep coming up with fail examples after fail examples.

When someone uses 20 different examples of the same point in a debate it means they are failing and in an attempt to do damage control is now reaching.

He is getting ethered bad. If you don't hate Skip for getting on your fav player( lebron) you would be laughing @ rose fail attempt.

Rose lost this debate. He walked into a losing battle.

You think talking over someone is owning them?

Do that in a real debate and you get your mic shut off.

Ever watch the presidential debates? Did you guys even go to college and take debate classes?

FML. America's Education System. :banghead:

[NumberSix]

Rose is looking like an idiot out there. He has flip flop like 100000000000 times on his argument, and keep coming up with fail examples after fail examples.

When someone uses 20 different examples of the same point in a debate it means they are failing and in an attempt to do damage control is now reaching.

He is getting ethered bad. If you don't hate Skip for getting on your fav player( lebron) you would be laughing @ rose fail attempt.

Rose lost this debate. He walked into a losing battle.

You think talking over someone is owning them?

Do that in a real debate and you get your mic shut off.

Ever watch the presidential debates? Did you guys even go to college and take debate classes?

FML. America's Education System. :banghead:
Bladers :hammerhead:

[Kujo]

I can't believe they spent the whole show talking about this, and how the media criticizes athletes. I could understand a segment or two, but the whole show? :confusedshrug:

Not two hours well spent imho.

[Tenchi Ryu]

Ok everyone, turn to sportscenter, ESPN 1:lol :lol :lol

[UtahJazzFan88]

Jalen Rose's closing words. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[barnett114]

Rose is looking like an idiot out there. He has flip flop like 100000000000 times on his argument, and keep coming up with fail examples after fail examples.

When someone uses 20 different examples of the same point in a debate it means they are failing and in an attempt to do damage control is now reaching.

He is getting ethered bad. If you don't hate Skip for getting on your fav player( lebron) you would be laughing @ rose fail attempt.

Rose lost this debate. He walked into a losing battle.

You think talking over someone is owning them?

Do that in a real debate and you get your mic shut off.

Ever watch the presidential debates? Did you guys even go to college and take debate classes?

FML. America's Education System. :banghead:

You wrote that bullshit on RealGM.

[Doranku]

I missed the entire thing. It looks like First Take is on again on ESPN2, is it going to be the same show that you all are talking about?

[NumberSix]

Dude, this clown has referenced Delonte West banging LBJ's mom, but high school PPG is crossing the line? :confusedshrug:

Lol. **** outta here ******

[UtahJazzFan88]

I missed the entire thing. It looks like First Take is on again on ESPN2, is it going to be the same show that you all are talking about?

It's a rerun of the one that just ran.

[Bladers]

Jalen Rose's closing words. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

A wise man always knows when to fold.

[Tenchi Ryu]

I missed the entire thing. It looks like First Take is on again on ESPN2, is it going to be the same show that you all are talking about?
Yep

[barnett114]

A wise man always knows when to fold.

:facepalm

[NumberSix]

A wise man always knows when to fold.
Bladers :hammerhead:

[Tenchi Ryu]

Jalen is in the SportsCenter studio now :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Bladers]

Jalen is in the SportsCenter studio now :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

He looks stiff as fck. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[barnett114]

He looks stiff as fck. :roll: :roll: :roll:

:facepalm

[IGOTGAME]

all Rose had to say is that we are all public figures and up for debate. SAS's career as a reporter should be open to debate for guys like Westbrook.

I would have went through Smith's resume if I was in Roses spot.

[Bladers]

all Rose had to say is that we are all public figures and up for debate. SAS's career as a reporter should be open to debate for guys like Westbrook.

I would have went through Smith's resume if I was in Roses spot.

He tried but failed miserably.
All he could was try to interrupt him to avoid hearing that ether.
Dude was gang banged on national TV.

Completely unprecedented. Utterly destroyed. Was almost in tears. Visibly Shaken up.

Dude will never be the same after today.

[DKLaker]

:roll: His face when that came up was golden.

Skip fell like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1pIO4_lUY

[barnett114]

He tried but failed miserably.
All he could was try to interrupt him to avoid hearing that ether.
Dude was gang banged on national TV.

Completely unprecedented. Utterly destroyed. Was almost in tears. Visibly Shaken up.

Dude will never be the same after today.

:coleman:

[NumberSix]

He tried but failed miserably.
All he could was try to interrupt him to avoid hearing that ether.
Dude was gang banged on national TV.

Completely unprecedented. Utterly destroyed. Was almost in tears. Visibly Shaken up.

Dude will never be the same after today.
Lol. This phaggit mad.:roll:

[sportsfan76]

How all of this started was when Rose was explaining there are 5 types of point guards and Skip asked..."what type were you?

So since most people don't know when Skip is being serious, Rose thought Skip were trying to play him but he was just actually asking a question. And then Rose starts asking...."where did you play?


It was a argument that happened because of miss communication.

[GOBB]

How all of this started was when Rose was explaining there are 5 types of point guards and Skip asked..."what type were you?

So since most people don't know when Skip is being serious, Rose thought Skip were trying to play him but he was just actually asking a question. And then Rose starts asking...."where did you play?


It was a argument that happened because of miss communication.

Rose was going to mention it regardless. He just took the chance at that point.

[Bladers]

Rose was going to mention it regardless. He just took the chance at that point.

I can't believe I just watched a guy get anally probed on national television.

[UtahJazzFan88]

Jalen always brings up the "where did you play?" card to Skip all the time when he's on the show, valid or not. Not surprised in the least bit.

[truhooper]

Jalen Rose for the win.
:applause:

[IGOTGAME]

I can't believe I just watched a guy get anally probed on national television.
you are exaggerating. It was obvious he was handcuffed. If they wanted a true discussion it wouldn't be SAS yelling like a moron and Skip acting hurt like a kid.

Smith should be the last one talking shit about careers. Kwame Brown is a higher ranking basketball player than he is at his job. If I was an athlete I would constantly remind them about there place in the journalistic totdm pole.

[NumberSix]

"Jalen Rose with a facial on Skip Bayless"

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1992/1551551-marv_albert_large.jpg

[Tenchi Ryu]

I would constantly remind them about there place in the journalistic totdm pole.
Rose doing just that made Smith pretty pissed too.

[IGOTGAME]

Rose doing just that made Smith pretty pissed too.
he didn't commit. Should have made the show about Smiths bad show and called him a scrub and pathetic.

Smith`s resume and credentials are nothing special forhim to act like he is some bigshot.

[NumberSix]

SAS can get that 12-head of his pushed back even further.

[heyhey]

he didn't commit. Should have made the show about Smiths bad show and called him a scrub and pathetic.

Smith`s resume and credentials are nothing special forhim to act like he is some bigshot.

Rose can't go there tho that would sever relationship and catch feelings for real

Sometims u got to cede the small things, rose still need to work with these dudes

[IGOTGAME]

Rose can't go there tho that would sever relationship and catch feelings for real

Sometims u got to cede the small things, rose still need to work with these dudes
I know. Would have been funny doe.

[heyhey]

Rose makes a great point implicitly about modern journalism in general. The journalists need to choose to present themselves as actual journalist whose job is to report stories or celebrities who is about self promotion and having a platform.

You can't act like an entertainer than hide behind badge of journalism

[NumberSix]

Rose makes a great point implicitly about modern journalism in general. The journalists need to choose to present themselves as actual journalist whose job is to report stories or celebrities who is about self promotion and having a platform.

You can't act like an entertainer than hide behind badge of journalism
This is fresh

[NumberSix]

Jalen Rose just committed a murder on live television

[sportsfan76]

This was the highlight of the show

Jalen Rose: Attacking you would be like Chris Everett and Jim Rome

Skip Bayless: Ok we can do that



LMAO

[RaininTwos]

im watching the rerun. did i miss it?

[Tenchi Ryu]

im watching the rerun. did i miss it?
Yea, they are at the part now where shit got real.

[Bladers]

Jalen Rose just committed a murder on live television

The only one getting murked is Rose. He left that studio in a body bag, on his way to the morgue.

[NumberSix]

The only one getting murked is Rose. He left that studio in a body bag, on his way to the morgue.
:facepalm

Sooo fail.

[RaininTwos]

Yea, they are at the part now where shit got real.
shit is getting real:eek: :eek: :eek:

rose is bodying everyone on set.

camera man might be next.... his career might just be in jeopardy

i cant believe that skip is so quiet, hell just froze over

[RaininTwos]

Can Skip get ANY SALTIER????:biggums: :biggums:

[NumberSix]

:hammertime:

[sportsfan76]

Very disappointed in Skip Bayless. You can't take shots at people everyday and then when someone takes a shot at you then it's "OVER THE LINE"

I think First Take should end today or Bayless should be replaced. I don't like seeing 'sensitive grown men" on TV

[NumberSix]

Skip has a sad. A very very sad.

[Bladers]

Stephen Beast Smith beasting on Rose's every point in the rerun.

[GOBB]

Can Skip get ANY SALTIER????:biggums: :biggums:

You're using the word salty way too much. Give it a vacation, throw out another term or two then go back to using salty in the right doses.

[NumberSix]

Stephen Beast Smith beasting on Rose's every point in the rerun.
Bladers :cletus:

[Bladers]

shit is getting real:eek: :eek: :eek:

rose is bodying everyone on set.

camera man might be next.... his career might just be in jeopardy

i cant believe that skip is so quiet, hell just froze over


Rose got destroyed. Which debate were you watching?

Do people even know how a debate works and how to determine a winner?

Each person brings up a point. And if the point stands he wins that round.

Rose brought up like 15-20 points and were all destroyed by Stephen Beast Smith.

[NumberSix]

Rose got destroyed. Which debate were you watching?

Do people even know how a debate works and how to determine a winner?

Each person brings up a point. And if the point stands he wins that round.

Rose brought up like 15-20 points and were all destroyed by Stephen Beast Smith.
Clearly you have a wealth of debate knowledge. I mean, look at the way you've been winning debates left and right on this board. :roll:

[sportsfan76]

Another highlight of the show

Jalen Rose: "Skip I apologized to you because I hurt your feelings"



LMAO

[stallionaire]

shit is getting real:eek: :eek: :eek:

rose is bodying everyone on set.

camera man might be next.... his career might just be in jeopardy

i cant believe that skip is so quiet, hell just froze over
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[RaininTwos]

You're using the word salty way too much. Give it a vacation, throw out another term or two then go back to using salty in the right doses.
:oldlol:

I cant remember the last time I used it, but you are my father so I will heed your advice

[RaininTwos]

Rose got destroyed. Which debate were you watching?

Do people even know how a debate works and how to determine a winner?

Each person brings up a point. And if the point stands he wins that round.

Rose brought up like 15-20 points and were all destroyed by Stephen Beast Smith.
dude, stop riding SAS. at one point smith was making animal noises because rose was just killing him with details and examples over and over.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Skip Bayless is entertaining..as is first take, but Skippy messed up and took what Jalen said serious. He vilifies athletes for a living reporting the facts (or opinions..whatever) and now he's "hurt" about facts? Hypocrite. :oldlol:

Take Stephen A. Smith's advice and move on.

[GOBB]

dude, stop riding SAS. at one point smith was making animal noises because rose was just killing him with details and examples over and over.

He's just salty.

[NumberSix]

Bladers has a mad.

[ace23]

I was expecting this to be about D Rose and Jerryd Bayless.
This

[RaininTwos]

SAS is giving up?:eek:

The f*ck is going on in the world???

yo, this 2012 thing might just be real.

[Bladers]

Stephen Beast Smith And Bayless going in on Rose http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:7800707

Ahhhh I love the smell of Ether.

They need to put up the whole thing. That's like 30% of it.
At the end is where it actually really began.

[Bladers]

Clearly you have a wealth of debate knowledge. I mean, look at the way you've been winning debates left and right on this board. :roll:

Ask anyone about Hulk. They will tell you the business and how it went down.

[ClutchOver9000]

did anyone believe Bayless story about how his tweets were actually accurate just misinterpreted?

[TylerOO]

Is this on YouTube yet? I slept late as hell and missed it. Can someone post a link when they get one?

[IGOTGAME]

did anyone believe Bayless story about how his tweets were actually accurate just misinterpreted?
he just wasn't good. He lied but Rose wouldn't or couldn't press. If you area good scorer on a decent team there is no excuse for not playing every game and only scoring 1 point per game. Guy is a liar or disingenuous.

I don't care about it but the guy lied.

[Bladers]

dude, stop riding SAS. at one point smith was making animal noises because rose was just killing him with details and examples over and over.

LOL.

Let's say we have argument for who the GOAT is.
And we can only use one point.


And my point was that Lebron avged 50 points for 5 straight season.

If that point stood to be true and was not thrown down.

And my opposition point was destroyed then I won the debate.

IF the opposition destroyed my point and his went unchallenged or I was unable to put it down in the debate.

Then I lost.

Do you guys understand how debate works? Did you even go to college? Did you take debate classes?

Do you even watch the presidential debates?

:facepalm


Rose brought up numorous points and they were destroyed instantly.

His point about qwame brown, ai, calling players out was also destroyed by SAS saying its the players teammates and coaches that actually leak these info to the media. etc. I wish the entire vid was uploaded so i could break down each points from both side.

Think about how Coach spo telling the media that some of the players were crying in the locker room.

SAS absolutely destroyed rose from a debate standpoint.
When you actually analyze the debate based on point system, its not even CLOSE.

[Rockets(T-mac)]

Skip is bsing about messing his tweets up, he worded it like that to look bigger, if he really wanted the real story to come out then tweet the rest of it......

And Smith was hilarious everytime he started shouting "I'LL LET YOU TALK JALEN I'LL LET YOU TALK" :oldlol:

But to Smith's point about some of these things that reports/columnists say about athletes coming from people on the team/organization well you have to say that's where you got it from.... if you leave it with no source well I'm going to think you came up with it. I'm not against people stating their opinions, that's what columnists are suppose to do, but like Jalen said keep it about the game, not personal. If Skip can name call all day, why can't a simple fact about his HS playing days be brought up?

Skip's little monologue about how he never got his chance was pathetic, after all he's said about other athletes and even had Bosh ask him to stop he ever never did. But not that he went through this "horrible" experience it's suddenly over the line? **** outta here.

[ClutchOver9000]

he just wasn't good. He lied but Rose wouldn't or couldn't press. If you area good scorer on a decent team there is no excuse for not playing every game and only scoring 1 point per game. Guy is a liar or disingenuous.

I don't care about it but the guy lied.

Thats what i said. Bayless is full of shit...

Not Rose fault he didnt press though, dude was btwn a rock and hard place, and if he did, then he'd be looked down on by other media members for personally going after a colleague.

[RaininTwos]

im not that smart, so make long winded posts so that i can stroke my ego. mrs.smith wont let us leave the room during school days so i have time to troll my life away
its crazy how you arent on my ignore list.

[guy]

Skip's little monologue about how he never got his chance was pathetic, after all he's said about other athletes and even had Bosh ask him to stop he ever never did. But not that he went through this "horrible" experience it's suddenly over the line? **** outta here.

Yea I saw that. I was seriously wondering if this was the same guy. Him being upset about KD calling him out to the point that he had to be consoled by his mother and now this has made him look really bad. Not much worse then a grown ass sensitive man that can dish criticism then looks for sympathy when the tables are turned.

[Pushxx]

There needs to be a YouTube clip of this episode. I missed everything.

[Grinder]

dude, stop riding SAS. at one point smith was making animal noises because rose was just killing him with details and examples over and over.

Yep, watched the whole thing and I feel that Rose made the most valid and logical points. I agree with Rose's sentiment on it while Stephen A. and SKip seemed to be hypocritical and inconsistent on certain points.

I don't have the patience to sit here and argue post after post about this but that's my 2 cents.

[Bladers]

Yep, watched the whole thing and I feel that Rose made the most valid and logical points. I agree with Rose's sentiment on it while Stephen A. and SKip seemed to be hypocritical and inconsistent on certain points.

I don't have the patience to sit here and argue post after post about this but that's my 2 cents.

lol you have proved urself to be an idiot yet again. Bravo.
When all your points are destroyed it means you lose.

Gosh damn America's Education System.

I swear to god I'm gonna lose my mind if i see another one of these numb skulls.

[Grinder]

lol you have proved urself to be an idiot yet again. Bravo.
When all your points are destroyed it means you lose.

Gosh damn America's Education System.

I swear to god I'm gonna lose my mind if i see another one of these numb skulls.

Where did that come from? I've never had an issue with you.

You might want to work on your grammar and spelling before you attempt to insult intelligence. ****ing Jesus loving ******s. :oldlol:

[Rockets(T-mac)]

Where did that come from? I've never had an issue with you.

You might want to work on your grammar and spelling before you attempt to insult intelligence. ****ing Jesus loving ******s. :oldlol:Don't bother with him, he's lets say the Skip Bayless of this forum. Actually that might be an insult to Skip Bayless. :oldlol:

[mentallooser]

Rose's basic argument was fine, but "you were a shitty athlete so you know nothing" is a terrible argument to make. Skip deserved to have his feeling hurt though. Dude is horrid.

[DMAVS41]

I missed some of this, but if Rose was trying to say that there are no scrubs in the NBA....he is an idiot.

As much as I despise Bayless...he has every right to say anything he wants as long as its not just completely fabricated. He's just offering his opinions.

And former athletes acting like they know more than people that didn't play is absurd. If it was so easy to predict who was going to win and everything....they'd be right all the time. And they are almost always wrong.

[Rake2204]

In the interest of full disclosure, I originally thought this thread was about a Derrick Rose/Jerryd Bayless beef.

[GOBB]

I missed some of this, but if Rose was trying to say that there are no scrubs in the NBA....he is an idiot.

As much as I despise Bayless...he has every right to say anything he wants as long as its not just completely fabricated. He's just offering his opinions.

And former athletes acting like they know more than people that didn't play is absurd. If it was so easy to predict who was going to win and everything....they'd be right all the time. And they are almost always wrong.

Missed some? Seems you missed alot with these points. Jalen Rose made his point about the scrub argument.

And Skip has every right to say what he feels unless things are said to him he finds personal, offensive and cries uncle. WHICH he did yesterday. Jalen Rose issue is guys like him need stop crossing that line where they are offending players and questioning their character. Calling Bosh...Bosh Spice which implies he plays like a girl ala soft. Rose opinion is Skip shouldnt be cool with going that route. He needs to get away with being famous for going these routes.

Bosh told Skip he takes offense to Skip using his name in that manner. He takes pride in his name. Skip said he would still call him that name so long as he doesnt play a certain way (in Skip eyes). So you're saying thats ok for Skip to say and he has every right? Come on.

Yet when Skip is attacked and not just with Rose? Skip cries foul. You cant draw up a line for people not to cross. But you're steady crossing the line because you feel you are right and justified in what you are doing. Thats moronic.

I guess you watched bits n pieces of the show.

[guy]

I missed some of this, but if Rose was trying to say that there are no scrubs in the NBA....he is an idiot.

As much as I despise Bayless...he has every right to say anything he wants as long as its not just completely fabricated. He's just offering his opinions.

And former athletes acting like they know more than people that didn't play is absurd. If it was so easy to predict who was going to win and everything....they'd be right all the time. And they are almost always wrong.

Who are almost always wrong? Alot of them disagree with each other. There opinions vary just as much as non-former player media members. Thats not saying much.

[DMAVS41]

Missed some? Seems you missed alot with these points. Jalen Rose made his point about the scrub argument.

And Skip has every right to say what he feels unless things are said to him he finds personal, offensive and cries uncle. WHICH he did yesterday. Jalen Rose issue is guys like him need stop crossing that line where they are offending players and questioning their character. Calling Bosh...Bosh Spice which implies he plays like a girl ala soft. Rose opinion is Skip shouldnt be cool with going that route. He needs to get away with being famous for going these routes.

Bosh told Skip he takes offense to Skip using his name in that manner. He takes pride in his name. Skip said he would still call him that name so long as he doesnt play a certain way (in Skip eyes). So you're saying thats ok for Skip to say and he has every right? Come on.

Yet when Skip is attacked and not just with Rose? Skip cries foul. You cant draw up a line for people not to cross. But you're steady crossing the line because you feel you are right and justified in what you are doing. Thats moronic.

I guess you watched bits n pieces of the show.

Well, Jalen was just not accurate when he called out Skip though...right?

I heard Skip say that he says things like that when he feels its about on court play. Does bosh not deserve a nick name like that? LOL...its actually perfect and perfectly sums up his weak ass play.

Skip isn't just a journalist anymore. He's an entertainer. The show first take is a debate show and isn't really the standard media platform.

Like I said, I didn't see the whole thing. But I did see SAS roast Rose on a lot of his points.

[DMAVS41]

Who are almost always wrong? Alot of them disagree with each other. There opinions vary just as much as non-former player media members. Thats not saying much.

That is the point. Former athletes are just no better than the average journalist in predicting outcomes or understanding sports. In reality, its the sports writers closest to teams that have the best feel for them.

Like Marc Stein in Dallas. He knows far more about the Mavs than any former athlete like Legler or Rose or Mullin on ESPN.

Playing a sport professionally does not make you special in this regard. You always hear the...."you wouldn't know because you didn't play"....that is fine, but anyone with two eyes can see some of this stuff and comment on it.

[Bladers]

Well, Jalen was just not accurate when he called out Skip though...right?

I heard Skip say that he says things like that when he feels its about on court play. Does bosh not deserve a nick name like that? LOL...its actually perfect and perfectly sums up his weak ass play.

Skip isn't just a journalist anymore. He's an entertainer. The show first take is a debate show and isn't really the standard media platform.

Like I said, I didn't see the whole thing. But I did see SAS roast Rose on a lot of his points.

Exactly and this is what people fail to see. First Take is not sports center, its not FOX NEWS.

They don't sit behind a chair and read a tele prompter.

Rose got destroyed and wholely deserved it.

[Rockets(T-mac)]

Well, Jalen was just not accurate when he called out Skip though...right?

I heard Skip say that he says things like that when he feels its about on court play. Does bosh not deserve a nick name like that? LOL...its actually perfect and perfectly sums up his weak ass play.

Skip isn't just a journalist anymore. He's an entertainer. The show first take is a debate show and isn't really the standard media platform.

Like I said, I didn't see the whole thing. But I did see SAS roast Rose on a lot of his points.Well if he's an entertainer, then I guess he was trying to entertain us when he pretty much cried when Durant called him out and when Rose called him out about the HS stats? Again the main issue is that he can make fun of other people, but when done to him he starts to cry.

[Da_Realist]

Stephen A Smith... :facepalm I used to like him when he was on Fox Sports Radio. Damn somebody cut off his mic :banghead:

[guy]

Well, Jalen was just not accurate when he called out Skip though...right?

I heard Skip say that he says things like that when he feels its about on court play. Does bosh not deserve a nick name like that? LOL...its actually perfect and perfectly sums up his weak ass play.

Skip isn't just a journalist anymore. He's an entertainer. The show first take is a debate show and isn't really the standard media platform.

Like I said, I didn't see the whole thing. But I did see SAS roast Rose on a lot of his points.

Actually Jalen was accurate. And Skip just basically explained more of the story behind it and tried to save face by saying there was more of a story behind it.

Whether Bosh deserves or not isn't really the issue. Its that even if he does deserve it, its offensive. And the bigger observation here is that even if its okay for him to say that despite how offensive it is, Skip of all people should not get offended by something like what Jalen brought up considering all the times he's crossed the line on certain people.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Is this up on espn.com or on youtube yet?

[guy]

That is the point. Former athletes are just no better than the average journalist in predicting outcomes or understanding sports. In reality, its the sports writers closest to teams that have the best feel for them.

Like Marc Stein in Dallas. He knows far more about the Mavs than any former athlete like Legler or Rose or Mullin on ESPN.

Playing a sport professionally does not make you special in this regard. You always hear the...."you wouldn't know because you didn't play"....that is fine, but anyone with two eyes can see some of this stuff and comment on it.

Marc Stein is a reporter that regularly covers the Mavs locker room. Of course he's going to have more insight then someone like Legler or Rose who aren't around those guys every day. But him and Skip/Stephen A. are completely different. Stein is a reporter that mainly reports facts and general opinions here and there. Skip and Stephen A. go off with their opinions and are downright insulting to players. Not saying they are wrong for that, but they're not prone to rebuttals.

I'd say they are probably better at understanding sports, but not any better or worse at predicting outcomes. But thats mainly because unless its clearly obvious, its usually a thin line between outcomes.

[steve]

Stephen A Smith... :facepalm I used to like him when he was on Fox Sports Radio. Damn somebody cut off his mic :banghead:
His mic is cut off.

[TonyD]

Is this up on espn.com or on youtube yet?

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7800877

Haven't listened, so I don't know if they took anything out.

[guy]

I just listened to the podcast but it cut off at the end in the middle of Skip and Stephen A.'s closing argument. No offense, but I don't think it justified the hype. Both sides made good points. Wouldn't really say anyone won the argument. If anyone, it was Jalen just cause he got Skip so damn emotional. Skip came across as someone looking for sympathy i.e. "I grew up in a tough neighborhood" and "I've had near death experiences". And then he tried to warm up to Chris Carter that he had his favorite times debating with him on the show. Lost alot of respect for him listening to him on this. I though dude was a lot tougher then that. Definitely came across as a bully thats now emotional cause someone finally punched him in the face.

[heyhey]

jalen rose had good points. he's just not eloquent at expressing them or summarizing his most effective points. jay crawford was actually helping him by making the point of skip's hypocrisy for him.

i mean it wasn't that fair for skip, a career master of rhetoric, to go against an ex professional athlete

[SilkkTheShocker]

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7800877

Haven't listened, so I don't know if they took anything out.


Appreciate the link :cheers:

[guy]

jalen rose had good points. he's just not eloquent at expressing them or summarizing his most effective points. jay crawford was actually helping him by making the point of skip's hypocrisy for him.

i mean it wasn't that fair for skip, a career master of rhetoric, to go against an ex professional athlete

The main reason he couldn't express his points as eloquently was cause of Skip and Stephen A. talking over him.