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PTB Fan
04-10-2012, 04:26 PM
Who is it in your opinion?

Bandito
04-10-2012, 04:29 PM
Melo

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 04:29 PM
Kobe Bryant


Just kidding Kobe trolls haha...

PHaYze
04-10-2012, 04:30 PM
Probably Wilt, he could score and that's about it, unless fighting mountain lions counts.

PTB Fan
04-10-2012, 04:31 PM
Probably Wilt, he could score and that's about it, unless fighting mountain lions counts.

:roll:

bmulls
04-10-2012, 04:32 PM
It's gotta be Allen Iverson

1987_Lakers
04-10-2012, 04:33 PM
Wilt was far from being one dimensional. My vote goes to Dominique Wilkins.

MMM
04-10-2012, 04:33 PM
Kobe Bryant


Just kidding Kobe trolls haha...

This even though Kobe isn't really one dimensional but relatively speaking among other all-time greats he might be.

chips93
04-10-2012, 04:33 PM
Probably Wilt, he could score and that's about it, unless fighting mountain lions counts.

didnt he lead the league in assists one year, an all-time great rebounder, and was supposedly one of the best shot blockers of all time?

ILLsmak
04-10-2012, 04:33 PM
Rodman comes to mind...

-Smak

PTB Fan
04-10-2012, 04:35 PM
didnt he lead the league in assists one year, an all-time great rebounder, and was supposedly one of the best shot blockers of all time?

He did that all of that. Also, he led the league in FG% 9 times as well.

swi7ch
04-10-2012, 04:36 PM
Amare or Melo... take your pick.

PHaYze
04-10-2012, 04:37 PM
didnt he lead the league in assists one year, an all-time great rebounder, and was supposedly one of the best shot blockers of all time?
If you believe the rumors then yeah, I guess. In fact the NBA didn't even have "league leaders" until the merger. His rebounding was average at the time, in today's game he'd struggle to get 10 rpg.

If you were 2 feet taller than anyone else in the league then I'm pretty sure you'd be "one of the best shot blockers of all time"

bmulls
04-10-2012, 04:38 PM
If you believe the rumors then yeah, I guess. In fact the NBA didn't even have "league leaders" until the merger. His rebounding was average at the time, in today's game he'd struggle to get 10 rpg.

If you were 2 feet taller than anyone else in the league then I'm pretty sure you'd be "one of the best shot blockers of all time"

And cue a 5000 word jlauber essay in 5..4..3..2..1..

Rendezvous32
04-10-2012, 04:38 PM
Dantley

Sarcastic
04-10-2012, 04:39 PM
Shawn Bradley. Sucked at scoring. Sucked at defense. But he could block shots really well.

LamarOdom
04-10-2012, 04:40 PM
Most player mentioned are offensive players howa about the other side.

Rodman or Big Ben?

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 04:43 PM
Most player mentioned are offensive players howa about the other side.

Rodman or Big Ben?

To me neither were one dimensional. You guys are saying it like there are two main dimensions to basketball, offense and defense but I say there are 4.

1. Scoring/Shooting
2. Defense
3. Rebounding
4. Passing/Playmaking

It's more accurate to break it down into those 4 main attributes. I think Ben Wallace and Rodman were both unselfish passers, elite rebounders and defenders. So they had possibly 3, at least 2 of the 4 main dimensions in my opinion. One dimensional doesn't work in their case IMO.


I think the true answer to this question is that there isn't one. Not a single "great" player has been one dimensional, or they wouldn't be great.

sipitri
04-10-2012, 04:48 PM
It's gotta be Allen Iverson
He led the league in steals.
He averaged 8 APG in 04-05.
He averaged 5 RPG in 98-99 beside being 6'0.

?

sipitri
04-10-2012, 04:50 PM
By the way, every good defender is usually at least average in rebounding (because of hustle).
I guess the answer is someone who could only shoot the ball, Steve Kerr?

PHaYze
04-10-2012, 04:51 PM
By the way, every good defender is usually at least average in rebounding (because of hustle).
I guess the answer is someone who could only shoot the ball, Steve Kerr?
Ray Allen

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 04:54 PM
Ray Allen

26.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 4.1 apg to go with 1.5 spg and excellent shooting numbers. No that's not Kobe... that's Ray Allen's best season. Far from one dimensional.

CavaliersFTW
04-10-2012, 04:54 PM
Rodman

PHaYze
04-10-2012, 04:55 PM
26.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 4.1 apg to go with 1.5 spg and excellent shooting numbers. No that's not Kobe... that's Ray Allen's best season. Far from one dimensional.
LMAO. Like anyone would confuse Ray fckn Allen with Kobe Bryant:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Droid101
04-10-2012, 04:56 PM
Rodman was the greatest rebounder in the history of the NBA by a wide margin. Better at rebounding than everyone else, more than anyone else was better at anything else than everyone else (it makes sense if you think about it).

And he didn't really produce much else (blocked shots, steals, points, etc).

So doesn't he pretty much run away with it?

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 04:57 PM
Rodman was the greatest rebounder in the history of the NBA by a wide margin. Better at rebounding than everyone else, more than anyone else was better at anything else than everyone else (it makes sense if you think about it).

And he didn't really produce much else (blocked shots, steals, points, etc).

So doesn't he pretty much run away with it?

So defense doesn't count now? By definition you can't be ONE dimensional if you're elite at TWO different aspects of basketball.

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 04:58 PM
LMAO. Like anyone would confuse Ray fckn Allen with Kobe Bryant:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Numbers aren't far off an average Kobe season. Point was... Ray Allen is nowhere near one dimensional. You're seeing him be more specialized now because in the Boston offense he's forced to be a catch and shoot player and he's a bit older now.

Teanett
04-10-2012, 05:00 PM
mark eaton

PHaYze
04-10-2012, 05:00 PM
Numbers aren't far off an average Kobe season. Point was... Ray Allen is nowhere near one dimensional. You're seeing him be more specialized now because in the Boston offense he's forced to be a catch and shoot player and he's a bit older now.
He's one dimensional and that's that, I don't need your fancy words to tell me what I saw.

CavaliersFTW
04-10-2012, 05:01 PM
Probably Wilt, he could score and that's about it, unless fighting mountain lions counts.

:biggums:

Fighting mountain lions does count there's no "unless" about it.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ON-mmC6g0IY/T2lLsZ3f7HI/AAAAAAAADRU/Hp7QMyoa5CI/s640/Wilt%2520Lion.jpg

chips93
04-10-2012, 05:04 PM
He's one dimensional and that's that, I don't need your fancy words to tell me what I saw.

back in seattle, he was a very good playmaker, really solid in the pick and roll, boston just doesnt need him to do that anymore

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 05:05 PM
back in seattle, he was a very good playmaker, really solid in the pick and roll, boston just doesnt need him to do that anymore

He's a Kobe stan..... his entire viewing experience is Kobe. He probably idn't even watching the Lakers right now with Kobe sitting.

DuMa
04-10-2012, 05:09 PM
this player has to be a bench player. the microwave vinny johnson.

CavaliersFTW
04-10-2012, 05:09 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rixIRU42cmA/SSreiOeGOCI/AAAAAAAAA7w/Q9vEYFpwQmM/s320/scal2.bmp















"Token White Guy" ...and yet, White Mamba's greatness isn't even limited to this category, he's the GOAT player in the history of basketball PERIOD.

/thread

chips93
04-10-2012, 05:10 PM
He's a Kobe stan..... his entire viewing experience is Kobe. He probably idn't even watching the Lakers right now with Kobe sitting.

oh, ok

its tough to keep up with all the trolls on here

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 05:11 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rixIRU42cmA/SSreiOeGOCI/AAAAAAAAA7w/Q9vEYFpwQmM/s320/scal2.bmp














"Token White Guy" ...and yet, White Mamba's greatness isn't even limited to this category, he's the GOAT player in the history of basketball PERIOD.

/thread


http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Brian_Scalabrine

Learn something.

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 05:12 PM
oh, ok

its tough to keep up with all the trolls on here

Yea definitely. Obviously if he lists Ray Allen as one dimensional... he didn't watch Allen in his prime with Milwaukee and Seattle.

qrich
04-10-2012, 05:13 PM
Sure Shot Steve Novak

guy
04-10-2012, 05:14 PM
Dominique Wilkins. Was going to say Dirk or AI, but both are probably above average at rebounding and passing.

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 05:16 PM
Dominique Wilkins. Was going to say Dirk or AI, but both are probably above average at rebounding and passing.

I think Nique is the closest to what we are looking for. In terms of a player who was very specialized yet still a legend. Bad defender, sub par rebounder and passer for his size/position.

LamarOdom
04-10-2012, 05:17 PM
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Brian_Scalabrine

Learn something.

Hahaha da gawd! did he really say this?

[QUOTE]

zay_24
04-10-2012, 05:18 PM
jordan

alenleomessi
04-10-2012, 05:18 PM
Manute Bol

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 05:19 PM
Hahaha da gawd! did he really say this?



It is written in the link you posted.

Haha not sure. I think that is a parody type Wikipedia.. still funny nonetheless.

CavaliersFTW
04-10-2012, 05:24 PM
Haha not sure. I think that is a parody type Wikipedia.. still funny nonetheless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPLxRzFno4c

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 05:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPLxRzFno4c

:bowdown: :bowdown: :applause:. The White Mamba has spoken....

JMT
04-10-2012, 05:26 PM
Nique was the first player that came to mind.

Big#50
04-10-2012, 05:33 PM
Nique was the first player that came to mind.
No. He could rebound really well.
Brandon Roy comes to mind for me.

Clippersfan86
04-10-2012, 05:35 PM
No. He could rebound really well.
Brandon Roy comes to mind for me.

Roy was far more well rounded than Nique :facepalm :banghead: .

LamarOdom
04-10-2012, 05:40 PM
No. He could rebound really well.
Brandon Roy comes to mind for me.

Are you on drugs? Brandon Roy one dimensional? 23/5/5 and a good defender.

mountainmamba
04-10-2012, 05:54 PM
derek fisher is zero dimensional--where does that fall?

Brick Rick
04-10-2012, 05:55 PM
Reggie Miller. Masterfully weave through screens, catch and shoot. Get your 20.

Edit: I might have described Ray Allen there as well.

Nevaeh
04-10-2012, 05:56 PM
Rodman comes to mind...

-Smak

What's funny is he didn't really become one dimensional until he came to the Bulls. Up until then he was a great one on one defender with a decent mid range shot when he was looking to score. He was also a very underrated passer.

LamarOdom
04-10-2012, 06:00 PM
Reggie Miller. Masterfully weave through screens, catch and shoot. Get your 20.

Edit: I might have described Ray Allen there as well.

Well we are coming some where now, this is the best suggestion so far.

Ray Allen though is really not one dimensional he is a good defender,can be a playmaker, greatest shooter and great scorer.

Bosnian Sajo
04-10-2012, 06:00 PM
Big Ben

jlip
04-10-2012, 06:05 PM
Gervin?

Nevaeh
04-10-2012, 06:10 PM
Well we are coming some where now, this is the best suggestion so far.

Ray Allen though is really not one dimensional he is a good defender,can be a playmaker, greatest shooter and great scorer.

Yeah, Ray's career can be split in half. First half, slasher, midrange and clutch 3s. Second half, use screens due to loss in athleticism, catch and shoot. He was always a good defender as well, like you said. Underrated even, at times.

There's a clip on You Tube featuring his Bucks days that might actually surprise some of the young cats here. Just can't remember the Title though.

Mr Know It All
04-10-2012, 06:10 PM
Reggie Evans.

Killbot
04-10-2012, 06:13 PM
He's one dimensional and that's that, I don't need your fancy words to tell me what I saw.

And you probably haven't seen much of Ray. He's at least an average defender, and that indicates he is not one dimensional.

I say underrated defender. He doesn't bite the pump fake most of the time.

T.O.RapsJays
04-10-2012, 06:27 PM
Not greatest but Kyle Korver. Does the dude do anything else other than catch-and-chuck?

Living Being
04-10-2012, 06:38 PM
George McCloud (shooter)
Ron Artest (defender)
Bruce Bowen (defender)
Steve Kerr (shooter)
Tim Legler (shooter)
Chris Anderson (wild leaps ending in dunks or blocks)
Derek Fisher (leader)
Brian Scalabrine (cheerleader)
Eduardo Najera (defender)

NewYorkNoPicks
04-10-2012, 06:42 PM
Reggie Miller? All offense, no defense (except flops), not a great passer, and scored in a pretty one dimensional way

memetherapy
04-10-2012, 06:44 PM
POINT guards are so one dimensional!

LamarOdom
04-10-2012, 06:48 PM
Someone that just come to my mind is Jared Jeffries the only thing he can do is take a charge.



George McCloud (shooter)
Ron Artest (defender)
Bruce Bowen (defender)
Steve Kerr (shooter)
Tim Legler (shooter)
Chris Anderson (wild leaps ending in dunks or blocks)
Derek Fisher (leader)
Brian Scalabrine (cheerleader)
Eduardo Najera (defender)

Ron is not one dimensional maybe now but not in his prime.

Owl
04-10-2012, 07:25 PM
Depends what you mean. As the question is phrased I'd understand it to mean best player who was one dimensional (probably Gervin or Dantley), but some are going for the most specialised player.

To the guy who said Shawn Bradley couldn't defend, from Rick Barry's Pro Basketball Bible 94-95 Edition

With Bradley in the lineup, Sixers opponents shot 46%, scored 97 ppg, and Philadelphia went 20-29 ... Without hi, FG% against jumped to 51%, points against to 111, and the team was 5-28

Scoring:
Best (player who is a) Specialist: Dantley/Gervin (honourable mention Dominique and a lot of the 80s scoring small forwards)
Most Specialised: Probably someone like Tony Campbell or Mike McGee. Basically bench scorers who shot a lot without doing anything else whatsoever.

Shooting:
Best (player who is a) Specialist: Reggie Miller
Most Specialised:
Best at that specialist skill: Steve Kerr

Rebounding:
Best player who is a specialist: Dennis Rodman (assuming we're not counting Moses Malone)
Most Specialised: probably Rodman (from Reggie Evans and Danny Fortson)
Best at that specialist skill: Rodman again

Blocking
Best player who is specialist: difficult if the guy can't also be a good rebounder (i.e. Russell, Wallace, Mutombo) then maybe Shawn Bradley
Most Specialised: Bol/McIlvaine/Diop/Joel Anthony
Best at that Specialist skill: Bol (if you want to put a non-specialist in there you might argue Russell)

Assists
Best player who is a specialist: Can I not pick Stockton erm ... Andre Miller (other contenders Mark Jackson and Rod Strickland)
Most Specialised: Muggsy Bogues? (I know he got steals, just about every passing pg did though, Mark Jackson didn't but had other facets to his game) runners up: Brevin Knight, Mark Jackson
Best at that specialist skill: Stockton

rodman91
04-10-2012, 07:42 PM
Reggie Miller? Only offense, rest is below average.

Big#50
04-10-2012, 07:43 PM
Are you on drugs? Brandon Roy one dimensional? 23/5/5 and a good defender.
N

rodman91
04-10-2012, 07:45 PM
[QUOTE=Big#50]N

lilgodfather1
04-10-2012, 07:50 PM
Kobe Bryant obviously...

CavaliersFTW
04-10-2012, 07:53 PM
Kobe Bryant obviously...
You mean KoME Cryant?

Big#50
04-10-2012, 07:53 PM
None of those guys were one dimensional. :facepalm
Well, no ****ing player in the NBA is one dimensional nowadays. But to me those guys only did one thing really well, and that is score the ball. Steve Kerr only had a shot. But he could shoot threes, freebies, and mid range with the best of them. Is he one dimensional by your definition? All he could do is shoot. But he could shoot from everywhere.
Obviously Bol is the easy choice for this thread.

SyRyanYang
04-10-2012, 08:01 PM
Steve Nash. He runs the same offense throughout his career and hardly plays any defense.

LamarOdom
04-10-2012, 08:06 PM
[QUOTE=Big#50]N

mookie gaylock
04-10-2012, 08:08 PM
No voted for shaq? All he did was back his ass in and dunk. All the way to the hall of fame.

DaHeezy
04-10-2012, 08:13 PM
Doesn't one-dimensional mean good at only one thing? Some of your lists are terrible.

Where's Manute Bol/Mark Eaton? Cgraig Hodges?

Kobe 4 The Win
04-10-2012, 09:19 PM
Manute Bol as a shot blocker

ralph_i_el
04-11-2012, 10:21 PM
He's one dimensional and that's that, I don't need your fancy words to tell me what I saw.

you're an idiot aren't you?

PistolPete44
04-11-2012, 10:35 PM
PHaYze is a ****en idiot ignore him morons

AAckley1
04-11-2012, 11:13 PM
Gervin?

It's gotta be Gervin. Unless testing your septum's defense is a dimension.

RaininTwos
04-11-2012, 11:18 PM
Who the hell is one dimensional? Shit, even ERIC SNOW wasnt one dimensional.

I have no idea how to answer the question.

get these NETS
04-12-2012, 12:06 AM
michael cage-rebounder

jheri curl activist, too

jlauber
04-12-2012, 12:11 AM
Joel Anthony is the greatest zero dimensional player in NBA history.

He is simply not even below average at any facet of the game. Of course, by some poster's measurements, that may mean he is among the most "complete" players of all-time. His game is "balanced."

magnax1
04-12-2012, 12:37 AM
My first thought was Rodman, but he obviously wasn't one dimensional considering you could say he was both the best defender and rebounder ever. A pretty good passer too.
Then I thought Dantley, but he was a good rebounder and passer.
The closest I can think of is Gervin. Great scorer, but the best of the rest of his attributes are probably average at best. However, I don't think there are really a lot of players you could consider completely one dimensional. Some shooters like Peja Stojakevic, and some defenders like Bruce Bowen, and that's pretty much it.